Re: question about ip allocation
It seems to me what IIS have some bug or intend to work wrongly with Java. If www service of IIS shutted down there are no problem to have working third party web servers (two instances of orion server) on same port but different IP addresses on same Ethernet interface. Consider you options: -use third perty webserver -use different port and map port 80 on your firewall to web server's listening port on your computer. Hope it will help. - Original Message - From: Morten Raahede Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 4:51 AM Subject: Re: question about ip allocation Hi all Thanks for all your informative responses! Sorry but that is just not true. You can have two processes each with their own address listening on the same port. In fact you can have a process per address since the unique combination must be address and port, the kernel sorts all the rest out. If you have netcat installed on your linux machine try the following nc -s ip1 -l -p 2000 in another terminal run nc -s ip2 -l -p 2000. Both processes will be bound to port 2000 and you can connect to each as you would expect. The original poster's problem is likely that he does not have IIS properly configured to listen on only one address. This is very interesting I've downloaded netcat for Windows 2000. I can't execute those two commands you've suggested. On the second command it says: Can't grab 192.168.1.86:2000 with bind Either the two versions of netcat differ or maybe it doesn't work on Windows? Thanks in advance, Morten Raahede Knudsen Morten Raahede Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmør Bilpriser.dk Tolderlundsvej 16 DK-5000 Odense C Telefon +45 6314 6065 Telefax +45 6619 2164 Ved du hvad din bil er værd? Besøg http://www.bilpriser.dk
Re: question about ip allocation
Hi Thanks for your answers! try adding a host=x.x.x.x attribute to the web-site tag in default-web-site.xml I have tried that, it only oanswers on the given address, but it still seems to block for other servers on other ip addresses. Try changing the port number that Orion accepts requests from 80 to a different unused value e.g 2002. So that the url will look something like http://127.0.0.1:2002 This will give problems for users with firewalls. I'm still open for suggestions! Thanks in advance, Morten Raahede Knudsen Morten Raahede Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmør Bilpriser.dk Tolderlundsvej 16 DK-5000 Odense C Telefon +45 6314 6065 Telefax +45 6619 2164 Ved du hvad din bil er værd? Besøg http://www.bilpriser.dk
Re: question about ip allocation
Your machine has 2 IP-adresses but only one port 80 ! No 2 servers can listen on 1 port - no matter how many network cards You pull in. You have to bind the IPs to different ports. I am doing this on Linux but don't know how this is done on Windows. Max -- Maximilian Eberl - developer - netzdenker.de http://www.netzdenker.de mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ludwigstrasse 2 D-67346 Speyer / Germany tel: +49-6232-2602-02 fax: +49-6232-2602-05
RE: question about ip allocation
Hi, Two IP addresses - is this two network addresses, or is it two IP that point to the same DNS entry? If you have two network addresses, on two separate network cards, this should not happen. If they are actually pointing to the same address, you will have to put Orion on a different port to IIS. What you can do then is map an external address to the Orion ip/port to cater for people outside your firewall. HTH, Justin -Original Message- From: Morten Raahede Knudsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 09 January 2002 07:52 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: question about ip allocation Hi Thanks for your answers! try adding a host=x.x.x.x attribute to the web-site tag in default-web-site.xml I have tried that, it only oanswers on the given address, but it still seems to block for other servers on other ip addresses. Try changing the port number that Orion accepts requests from 80 to a different unused value e.g 2002. So that the url will look something like http://127.0.0.1:2002 This will give problems for users with firewalls. I'm still open for suggestions! Thanks in advance, Morten Raahede Knudsen Morten Raahede Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmør Bilpriser.dk Tolderlundsvej 16 DK-5000 Odense C Telefon +45 6314 6065 Telefax +45 6619 2164 Ved du hvad din bil er værd? Besøg http://www.bilpriser.dk
Re: question about ip allocation
Sorry but that is just not true. You can have two processes each with their own address listening on the same port. In fact you can have a process per address since the unique combination must be address and port, the kernel sorts all the rest out. If you have netcat installed on your linux machine try the following nc -s ip1 -l -p 2000 in another terminal run nc -s ip2 -l -p 2000. Both processes will be bound to port 2000 and you can connect to each as you would expect. The original poster's problem is likely that he does not have IIS properly configured to listen on only one address. - Original Message - From: Maximilian Eberl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 5:27 AM Subject: Re: question about ip allocation Your machine has 2 IP-adresses but only one port 80 ! No 2 servers can listen on 1 port - no matter how many network cards You pull in. You have to bind the IPs to different ports. I am doing this on Linux but don't know how this is done on Windows. Max -- Maximilian Eberl - developer - netzdenker.de http://www.netzdenker.de mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ludwigstrasse 2 D-67346 Speyer / Germany tel: +49-6232-2602-02 fax: +49-6232-2602-05
Re: question about ip allocation
That is not true. Every ethernet interface can listen on its own port 80. This can even be done with virtual interfaces which share the same physical network card. Ports are a abstraction implemented at the driver level and based on header information in each packet. tim. Your machine has 2 IP-adresses but only one port 80 ! No 2 servers can listen on 1 port - no matter how many network cards You pull in. You have to bind the IPs to different ports. I am doing this on Linux but don't know how this is done on Windows. Max -- Maximilian Eberl - developer - netzdenker.de http://www.netzdenker.de mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ludwigstrasse 2 D-67346 Speyer / Germany tel: +49-6232-2602-02 fax: +49-6232-2602-05
RE: question about ip allocation
this is incorrect, they is a port 80 for each IP address. As long as the clients can access each IP address, they can get to either port 80. Now Orion may be listening to ALL ip addresses on port 80 making it look like there is only one port 80. But each interface as a full compliment of ports. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Maximilian Eberl Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 5:27 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: question about ip allocation Your machine has 2 IP-adresses but only one port 80 ! No 2 servers can listen on 1 port - no matter how many network cards You pull in. You have to bind the IPs to different ports. I am doing this on Linux but don't know how this is done on Windows. Max -- Maximilian Eberl - developer - netzdenker.de http://www.netzdenker.de mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ludwigstrasse 2 D-67346 Speyer / Germany tel: +49-6232-2602-02 fax: +49-6232-2602-05
RE: question about ip allocation
On windows (NT) you can bind multiple IP addresses to a single NIC under the Advanced tab on the TCP/IP protocol properties dialog. Of course, you'll have to reboot... John H. Jarrod Roberson [EMAIL PROTECTED]@orionserver.com on 01/09/2002 11:06:29 AM Please respond to Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: RE: question about ip allocation this is incorrect, they is a port 80 for each IP address. As long as the clients can access each IP address, they can get to either port 80. Now Orion may be listening to ALL ip addresses on port 80 making it look like there is only one port 80. But each interface as a full compliment of ports. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Maximilian Eberl Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 5:27 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: question about ip allocation Your machine has 2 IP-adresses but only one port 80 ! No 2 servers can listen on 1 port - no matter how many network cards You pull in. You have to bind the IPs to different ports. I am doing this on Linux but don't know how this is done on Windows. Max -- Maximilian Eberl - developer - netzdenker.de http://www.netzdenker.de mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ludwigstrasse 2 D-67346 Speyer / Germany tel: +49-6232-2602-02 fax: +49-6232-2602-05
Re: question about ip allocation
On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 04:36:28PM +0100, Morten Raahede Knudsen wrote: I'm sorry if this is a newbie question, but I haven't found the answer in the archive. My machine has two IP addresses. In my web-site.xml I have specifically set Orion to use one of those ip addresses. try adding a host=x.x.x.x attribute to the web-site tag in default-web-site.xml cheers, -- Graham Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 17566658
Re: question about ip allocation
Try changing the port number that Orion accepts requests from 80 to a different unused value e.g 2002. So that the url will look something like http://127.0.0.1:2002 Hope this helps... Jaikoo - Original Message - From: Morten Raahede Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 3:36 PM Subject: question about ip allocation Hi I'm sorry if this is a newbie question, but I haven't found the answer in the archive. My machine has two IP addresses. In my web-site.xml I have specifically set Orion to use one of those ip addresses. It only answers on that specific ip address. However, when another server (IIS) tries to use the other IP adress on the same port number (80), IIS refuses to start as it replies (Address already in use) Does anyone have a solution? Thanks in advance Morten Raahede Knudsen Morten Raahede Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmør Bilpriser.dk Tolderlundsvej 16 DK-5000 Odense C Telefon +45 6314 6065 Telefax +45 6619 2164 Ved du hvad din bil er værd? Besøg http://www.bilpriser.dk
