[osdcmy-public] Australian power grid attacked by virus, Linux saves the day

[Hasanuddin Abu Bakar]

I hope this virus will never attack Malaysia's power grid.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/australian-power-grid-attacked-by-virus-linux-saves-the-day/


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[osdcmy-public] Re: red1 is in the building

[Azrul Hasni MADISA]

My meeting got cancel. I can join u guys 4 lunch

On Oct 9, 2009 1:06 PM, "Najah"  wrote:

Can't make it 2day. rushing sikit. Next friday ok ke?

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:48 PM, red1  wrote: > > Najah
wrote: >> >> no problem. ju...

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[osdcmy-public] Re: red1 is in the building

[Boh Yap]

hey red1,

good on yer, when you gonna belanja? teh tarik cukup ;-)
so what plans are cooking, besides those mentioned here...

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Najah  wrote:
> Can't make it 2day. rushing sikit. Next friday ok ke?
>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:48 PM, red1  wrote:
>>
>> Najah wrote:
>>
>> no problem. just call me..:)
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> hahaha... lain kali kita bincang2 cross-selling ;-)
>>>
>>> boleh makan2 lunch kat jpn atau pasar tani atau mecd
>>
>>  after solat jumaat i plan lunch kat MDec punya cafe.. ade siapa2 nak join
>> ke? 2.15pm to 2.45pm.
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> "The most important thing is that you have to be sincere and trustworthy in
> doing business - Tan Sri William Cheng, Lion Group Chairman & CEO"
>
> >
>



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[osdcmy-public] Re: Pembangkang kritik MSC, jom kita jawab dengan tindakan sumber terbuka

[Harisfazillah Jamel]

Bermula dari sini ???

http://www.warkahuntukpm.com.my/

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:26 PM, red1  wrote:
> One recommended way for NGO to make noise and make the upstairs no.1 see
> this problem is to organise a visit to the PM himself and hand him a
> referendum.. i mean.. memorandum stating why we must go all out FOSS for the
> country and savings to national spending as well as value to modal insan.
>
> Yun, pls call the PM office up to fix an appt.
>
> Siapa nak ikut? bubuh nama sini...
>

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[osdcmy-public] Re: red1 is in the building

[Najah]

Can't make it 2day. rushing sikit. Next friday ok ke?

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:48 PM, red1  wrote:

>  Najah wrote:
>
> no problem. just call me..:)
>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah <
> rajaiskand...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> hahaha... lain kali kita bincang2 cross-selling ;-)
>>
>> boleh makan2 lunch kat jpn atau pasar tani atau mecd
>>
>   after solat jumaat i plan lunch kat MDec punya cafe.. ade siapa2 nak
> join ke? 2.15pm to 2.45pm.
>
> >
>


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[osdcmy-public] Re: red1 is in the building

[red1]

Najah wrote:
no problem. just call me..:)
  
  On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Raja
Iskandar Shah 
wrote:
  hahaha...
lain kali kita bincang2 cross-selling ;-)

boleh makan2 lunch kat jpn atau pasar tani atau mecd




  
  

 after solat jumaat i plan lunch kat MDec punya cafe.. ade siapa2 nak
join ke? 2.15pm to 2.45pm.

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[osdcmy-public] Re: red1 is in the building

[Najah]

no problem. just call me..:)

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah  wrote:

> hahaha... lain kali kita bincang2 cross-selling ;-)
>
> boleh makan2 lunch kat jpn atau pasar tani atau mecd
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Najah  wrote:
>
>> @red1 roger.
>>
>> @Raja laa yeke? sy slalu biz meeting around presint 9 & presint diplomatik
>> tu. next time boleh roger2 pegi minum.
>>
>> @bro Haris jgn dikenang meja tu..hehe..
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah <
>> rajaiskand...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> saya ada di presint 2 - persiaran perdana setiap isnin - khamis
>>>
>>> semalam berselisih dgn bos haris - terpaksa buat laporan mengejut
>>>
>>> hari ni pulak berselisih dgn red1 di cyberjaya - kena buat laporan lagi
>>>
>>> kena cari port lah dekat2 erl station
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Najah  wrote:
>>>
 i'll have a meeting @putrajaya 3pm. will call u after the meeting.. :)


 On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:16 AM, red1  wrote:

>  Tempohlari only.
> While thinking how to bomb some sites around here.
> So have to be abit quiet for now.
>
> Najah!.. when we seeing MSU? come to MDec canteen first around anytime,
> then we can go together by 5pm.
>
>
> Nasrul Amri Samsudin wrote:
>
> New office?
>
> Sent using Android
>
> On Oct 9, 2009 11:06 AM, "red1"  wrote:
>
>
> Just to inform that i am in CyberJaya, in a small room with powerful
> secured web access, next to a fully equipped pantry of anything
> 3-in-1s,
> across the road from MDec.
>
> Be here every Friday till 2010. Solat at Putra Jaya new masjid. After
> that is party time.
>
>
>
>
>
>


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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> in doing business - Tan Sri William Cheng, Lion Group Chairman & CEO"
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
>


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[osdcmy-public] Re: Pembangkang kritik MSC, jom kita jawab dengan tindakan sumber terbuka

[Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini]

saya akan dokumentarikan untuk disiar bawah HAKERM :)

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
wrote:

> Saya join. :D
>
>
>
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> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Mohammad Sallehuddin Kodri <
> mrblu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> saya. Angkat 2 tgn
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 2009 Okt 9, at 12:26 PM, red1  wrote:
>>
>> > One recommended way for NGO to make noise and make the upstairs no.1
>> > see this problem is to organise a visit to the PM himself and hand
>> > him a referendum.. i mean.. memorandum stating why we must go all
>> > out FOSS for the country and savings to national spending as well as
>> > value to modal insan.
>> >
>> > Yun, pls call the PM office up to fix an appt.
>> >
>> > Siapa nak ikut? bubuh nama sini...
>> >
>> > red1 wrote:
>> >>
>> >> sweemeng ng wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hack number 1
>> >>> Localize content
>> >>> But that would be pleasing ourself. We should go global not stuck in
>> >>> our own backyard.
>> >>>
>> >>> Hack number 2
>> >>> Make noise, I will wait until the HSBB is implemented and see.
>> >>> So far, we grassroot make a lot of noise, TM not listening. We need
>> >>> noise at a high level.
>> >>> Somebody high up at the administration need to know, good
>> >>> infrastructure means more investment coming in.
>> >>>
>> >>> Hack number 3
>> >>> More competition. But we are all too poor to create competition.
>> >>>
>> >>  indeed.. we should and must shout.. that we have spent 4 billion
>> >> ringgit in licensing cost.. that money is capital flight.. taken by
>> >> another invisible hand..
>> >>
>> >> imagine 4 billion! That is a scandal of the century.. you need no
>> >> MACC
>> >> to solve this.. u need a serious OSDC.my
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
>

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[osdcmy-public] Re: Pembangkang kritik MSC, jom kita jawab dengan tindakan sumber terbuka

[Hasanuddin Abu Bakar]

Saya join. :D



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On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Mohammad Sallehuddin Kodri <
mrblu...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> saya. Angkat 2 tgn
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 2009 Okt 9, at 12:26 PM, red1  wrote:
>
> > One recommended way for NGO to make noise and make the upstairs no.1
> > see this problem is to organise a visit to the PM himself and hand
> > him a referendum.. i mean.. memorandum stating why we must go all
> > out FOSS for the country and savings to national spending as well as
> > value to modal insan.
> >
> > Yun, pls call the PM office up to fix an appt.
> >
> > Siapa nak ikut? bubuh nama sini...
> >
> > red1 wrote:
> >>
> >> sweemeng ng wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hack number 1
> >>> Localize content
> >>> But that would be pleasing ourself. We should go global not stuck in
> >>> our own backyard.
> >>>
> >>> Hack number 2
> >>> Make noise, I will wait until the HSBB is implemented and see.
> >>> So far, we grassroot make a lot of noise, TM not listening. We need
> >>> noise at a high level.
> >>> Somebody high up at the administration need to know, good
> >>> infrastructure means more investment coming in.
> >>>
> >>> Hack number 3
> >>> More competition. But we are all too poor to create competition.
> >>>
> >>  indeed.. we should and must shout.. that we have spent 4 billion
> >> ringgit in licensing cost.. that money is capital flight.. taken by
> >> another invisible hand..
> >>
> >> imagine 4 billion! That is a scandal of the century.. you need no
> >> MACC
> >> to solve this.. u need a serious OSDC.my
> >>
> >
> >
> > >
>
> >
>

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[osdcmy-public] Re: Pembangkang kritik MSC, jom kita jawab dengan tindakan sumber terbuka

[Mohammad Sallehuddin Kodri]

saya. Angkat 2 tgn

Sent from my iPhone

On 2009 Okt 9, at 12:26 PM, red1  wrote:

> One recommended way for NGO to make noise and make the upstairs no.1  
> see this problem is to organise a visit to the PM himself and hand  
> him a referendum.. i mean.. memorandum stating why we must go all  
> out FOSS for the country and savings to national spending as well as  
> value to modal insan.
>
> Yun, pls call the PM office up to fix an appt.
>
> Siapa nak ikut? bubuh nama sini...
>
> red1 wrote:
>>
>> sweemeng ng wrote:
>>
>>> Hack number 1
>>> Localize content
>>> But that would be pleasing ourself. We should go global not stuck in
>>> our own backyard.
>>>
>>> Hack number 2
>>> Make noise, I will wait until the HSBB is implemented and see.
>>> So far, we grassroot make a lot of noise, TM not listening. We need
>>> noise at a high level.
>>> Somebody high up at the administration need to know, good
>>> infrastructure means more investment coming in.
>>>
>>> Hack number 3
>>> More competition. But we are all too poor to create competition.
>>>
>>  indeed.. we should and must shout.. that we have spent 4 billion
>> ringgit in licensing cost.. that money is capital flight.. taken by
>> another invisible hand..
>>
>> imagine 4 billion! That is a scandal of the century.. you need no  
>> MACC
>> to solve this.. u need a serious OSDC.my
>>
>
>
> >

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[osdcmy-public] Re: Pembangkang kritik MSC, jom kita jawab dengan tindakan sumber terbuka

[red1]

One recommended way for NGO to make noise and make the upstairs no.1
see this problem is to organise a
visit to the PM himself and hand him a referendum.. i mean.. memorandum
stating why we must go all out FOSS for the country and savings to
national spending as well as value to modal insan.

Yun, pls call the PM office up to fix an appt.

Siapa nak ikut? bubuh nama sini...

red1 wrote:

  sweemeng ng wrote:
  
  
Hack number 1
Localize content
But that would be pleasing ourself. We should go global not stuck in 
our own backyard. 

Hack number 2
Make noise, I will wait until the HSBB is implemented and see. 
So far, we grassroot make a lot of noise, TM not listening. We need 
noise at a high level. 
Somebody high up at the administration need to know, good 
infrastructure means more investment coming in. 

Hack number 3
More competition. But we are all too poor to create competition.

  
   indeed.. we should and must shout.. that we have spent 4 billion 
ringgit in licensing cost.. that money is capital flight.. taken by 
another invisible hand..

imagine 4 billion! That is a scandal of the century.. you need no MACC 
to solve this.. u need a serious OSDC.my
  

 

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[osdcmy-public] Re: red1 is in the building

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

hahaha... lain kali kita bincang2 cross-selling ;-)

boleh makan2 lunch kat jpn atau pasar tani atau mecd



On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Najah  wrote:

> @red1 roger.
>
> @Raja laa yeke? sy slalu biz meeting around presint 9 & presint diplomatik
> tu. next time boleh roger2 pegi minum.
>
> @bro Haris jgn dikenang meja tu..hehe..
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah <
> rajaiskand...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> saya ada di presint 2 - persiaran perdana setiap isnin - khamis
>>
>> semalam berselisih dgn bos haris - terpaksa buat laporan mengejut
>>
>> hari ni pulak berselisih dgn red1 di cyberjaya - kena buat laporan lagi
>>
>> kena cari port lah dekat2 erl station
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Najah  wrote:
>>
>>> i'll have a meeting @putrajaya 3pm. will call u after the meeting.. :)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:16 AM, red1  wrote:
>>>
  Tempohlari only.
 While thinking how to bomb some sites around here.
 So have to be abit quiet for now.

 Najah!.. when we seeing MSU? come to MDec canteen first around anytime,
 then we can go together by 5pm.


 Nasrul Amri Samsudin wrote:

 New office?

 Sent using Android

 On Oct 9, 2009 11:06 AM, "red1"  wrote:


 Just to inform that i am in CyberJaya, in a small room with powerful
 secured web access, next to a fully equipped pantry of anything 3-in-1s,
 across the road from MDec.

 Be here every Friday till 2010. Solat at Putra Jaya new masjid. After
 that is party time.






>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> "The most important thing is that you have to be sincere and trustworthy
>>> in doing business - Tan Sri William Cheng, Lion Group Chairman & CEO"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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> doing business - Tan Sri William Cheng, Lion Group Chairman & CEO"
>
> >
>

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[osdcmy-public] Re: red1 is in the building

[Najah]

@red1 roger.

@Raja laa yeke? sy slalu biz meeting around presint 9 & presint diplomatik
tu. next time boleh roger2 pegi minum.

@bro Haris jgn dikenang meja tu..hehe..


On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah  wrote:

> saya ada di presint 2 - persiaran perdana setiap isnin - khamis
>
> semalam berselisih dgn bos haris - terpaksa buat laporan mengejut
>
> hari ni pulak berselisih dgn red1 di cyberjaya - kena buat laporan lagi
>
> kena cari port lah dekat2 erl station
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Najah  wrote:
>
>> i'll have a meeting @putrajaya 3pm. will call u after the meeting.. :)
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:16 AM, red1  wrote:
>>
>>>  Tempohlari only.
>>> While thinking how to bomb some sites around here.
>>> So have to be abit quiet for now.
>>>
>>> Najah!.. when we seeing MSU? come to MDec canteen first around anytime,
>>> then we can go together by 5pm.
>>>
>>>
>>> Nasrul Amri Samsudin wrote:
>>>
>>> New office?
>>>
>>> Sent using Android
>>>
>>> On Oct 9, 2009 11:06 AM, "red1"  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Just to inform that i am in CyberJaya, in a small room with powerful
>>> secured web access, next to a fully equipped pantry of anything 3-in-1s,
>>> across the road from MDec.
>>>
>>> Be here every Friday till 2010. Solat at Putra Jaya new masjid. After
>>> that is party time.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> in doing business - Tan Sri William Cheng, Lion Group Chairman & CEO"
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
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[osdcmy-public] Re: red1 is in the building

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

saya ada di presint 2 - persiaran perdana setiap isnin - khamis

semalam berselisih dgn bos haris - terpaksa buat laporan mengejut

hari ni pulak berselisih dgn red1 di cyberjaya - kena buat laporan lagi

kena cari port lah dekat2 erl station



On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Najah  wrote:

> i'll have a meeting @putrajaya 3pm. will call u after the meeting.. :)
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:16 AM, red1  wrote:
>
>>  Tempohlari only.
>> While thinking how to bomb some sites around here.
>> So have to be abit quiet for now.
>>
>> Najah!.. when we seeing MSU? come to MDec canteen first around anytime,
>> then we can go together by 5pm.
>>
>>
>> Nasrul Amri Samsudin wrote:
>>
>> New office?
>>
>> Sent using Android
>>
>> On Oct 9, 2009 11:06 AM, "red1"  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Just to inform that i am in CyberJaya, in a small room with powerful
>> secured web access, next to a fully equipped pantry of anything 3-in-1s,
>> across the road from MDec.
>>
>> Be here every Friday till 2010. Solat at Putra Jaya new masjid. After
>> that is party time.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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> doing business - Tan Sri William Cheng, Lion Group Chairman & CEO"
>
> >
>

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[osdcmy-public] Re: red1 is in the building

[red1]

Najah wrote:
> i'll have a meeting @putrajaya 3pm. will call u after the meeting.. :)
 roger Yun, i await your teetee, tuutuu.

Haris,
I will make sure your table is kept tidy. If i know which one. This one 
is just next to the training room.

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[osdcmy-public] Re: untangle

[Harisfazillah Jamel]

E1 kau ingat tak dulu-dulu saya ada share link blog kawan saya ada
satu software untuk cache Youtube dan tube-tube lain. Lupalah pulak...

2009/10/9 Mohd Hidzuan :
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[osdcmy-public] Re: red1 is in the building

[Najah]

i'll have a meeting @putrajaya 3pm. will call u after the meeting.. :)


On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:16 AM, red1  wrote:

>  Tempohlari only.
> While thinking how to bomb some sites around here.
> So have to be abit quiet for now.
>
> Najah!.. when we seeing MSU? come to MDec canteen first around anytime,
> then we can go together by 5pm.
>
>
> Nasrul Amri Samsudin wrote:
>
> New office?
>
> Sent using Android
>
> On Oct 9, 2009 11:06 AM, "red1"  wrote:
>
>
> Just to inform that i am in CyberJaya, in a small room with powerful
> secured web access, next to a fully equipped pantry of anything 3-in-1s,
> across the road from MDec.
>
> Be here every Friday till 2010. Solat at Putra Jaya new masjid. After
> that is party time.
>
>
>
>
> >
>


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[osdcmy-public] Re: red1 is in the building

[Harisfazillah Jamel]

Ambil meja saya ker??? :)

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:16 AM, red1  wrote:
> Tempohlari only.
> While thinking how to bomb some sites around here.
> So have to be abit quiet for now.
>
> Najah!.. when we seeing MSU? come to MDec canteen first around anytime, then
> we can go together by 5pm.
>
> Nasrul Amri Samsudin wrote:
>
> New office?
>
> Sent using Android
>
> On Oct 9, 2009 11:06 AM, "red1"  wrote:
>
>
> Just to inform that i am in CyberJaya, in a small room with powerful
> secured web access, next to a fully equipped pantry of anything 3-in-1s,
> across the road from MDec.
>
> Be here every Friday till 2010. Solat at Putra Jaya new masjid. After
> that is party time.
>
>
>

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[osdcmy-public] Re: Wakil OSDC untuk MyGOSSCon 24 WebDev Contest

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

lawan jgn tak lawan ...

betul cakap aziman tu, mesti ada sorang graphic - 20% markah untuk
presentation. dan dalam real world memang presentation sangat2 penting.

dan juga buat pengetahuan sekelian - masih belum ada team lain yg submit
application !!!

so buat masa sekarang, kalau masuk gerenti menang - sure win 1



2009/10/9 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini 

> saya boleh buat grafik..
> tapi layakkah daku? kuh3 [?]
>
> 2009/10/8 aziman noor 
>
> code satu hal... satu yang terror grafik nih... aku bab grafik nih la yang
>> gagal bersyarat sikit.
>> Icon la, butang, banner, footer... byk tuh... so 1 dr 5 orang mesti reti
>> grafik. GIMP. NVU.
>>
>> 2009/10/8 A Johan 
>>
>> tuan rizal,
>>>
>>> i'm in! ada kena meeting ke apa? aku dah lama tak tulis code ni.
>>>
>>> aj
>>>
>>> 2009/10/8 Mohd Hidzuan 
>>>
>>> jangan main bomoh yaa.. muahahahaa
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 2009/10/8 sweemeng ng 

 Ganas macam lawan.
>
>
> 2009/10/8 nuhaa 
>
>> dealine dah extend ke 20 oct
>>
>>
>>
>> Nuhaa All Bakry / cawanpink
>> http://cawanpink.net
>> http://fosschix.my
>>
>>
>> 2009/10/8 Raja Iskandar Shah 
>>
>>> masih boleh masuk part of the team. sebab interface design kira 20%
>>> dari markah.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/10/8 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini 
>>>
>>> belum cukup ilmu la nak buat web development framework..
 kalau jadi pom-pom boy kat belakang boleh la [?]

 2009/10/8 Mohd Rizal Mohd Shahari 


> Saya akan buat 1 team tu. Maaf lambat reply sbb jarang tgk e-mel
> sejak
> asyik ulang alik dari hospital ni.
>
> Ada sesiapa yg nak masuk team ni sila bagi nama.
>
>
>
> 2009/10/8 nuhaa :
> > kita takdak main rasuah2 ye
> >
> > osdc takde wakil ke?? at least 2 org, max 5 org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Nuhaa All Bakry / cawanpink
> > http://cawanpink.net
> > http://fosschix.my
> >
> >
> > 2009/10/8 Raja Iskandar Shah 
> >>
> >> ikut perisikan saya cik cawanpink.net adalah salah sorang ajk
> >> pertandingan. rasanya boh pun mungkin terlibat sama.
> >>
> >> tapi saya ingin ingatkan rasuah dalam bentuk hadiah / saguhati /
> salah
> >> guna kuasa adalah salah dari segi undang2 ;-)
> >>
> >> kalau tanya team krimnet - depa nak makan free aje.
> hahahaha. love
> >> of coding + free food ;-)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2009/10/8 Mohammad Sallehuddin Kodri 
> >>>
> >>> cayalah. harap2 bos Raja n geng boleh menang. kalo osdc.my ader
> team pun
> >>> leh menang gak. kira bolot ar semua.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>> On 2009 Okt 8, at 10:47 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah <
> rajaiskand...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> saya pun harap ada team osdc.my sendiri. no worries about
> menang atau
> >>> kalah atau malu - itu semua adat permainan (man utd fc pun
> kalah juga). yang
> >>> penting turun gelanggang.
> >>>
> >>> krimnet memang akan hantar team sendiri dan sekarang ini kami
> standby
> >>> kalau perlu jadi wakil bersama osdc.my. in case osdc.my takde
> wakil sendiri.
> >>> kalau nak letak osdc.my-krimnet pun boleh jugak. pasal krimnet
> pun asalnya
> >>> dari kelab remaja jugak.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2009/10/8 mohd fenris 
> 
>  just my 2 cent...
>  kenapa nak ade *-osdc.my ? kan ke lebih afdal @ bagus kalau
> pakai nama
>  kumpulan sayabanggadengannamakumpulansaya (sbg cth) . so kalau
> menang ke
>  kalah ker .. saguhati ker .. x de la nak tunding jari sana
> sini ...
>  sy yakin ada team dari osdc.my , betul x rakan2?
> 
>  On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah
>   wrote:
> >
> > topic akan diberikan masa mula competition day tu - tak aci
> lah kalau
> > kasi awal2
> >
> > cik cawanpink.net lebih arif
> >
> > bos, kalau takde team osdc.my, boleh ke kami guna nama
> krimnet-osdc.my
> > ? closing date ahad 11 oct 2009. kami dah nak kena submit
> esok pagi. winning
>

[osdcmy-public] Re: red1 is in the building

[red1]

Tempohlari only.
While thinking how to bomb some sites around here.
So have to be abit quiet for now.

Najah!.. when we seeing MSU? come to MDec canteen first around anytime,
then we can go together by 5pm.

Nasrul Amri Samsudin wrote:

  New office?
  Sent using Android
  On Oct 9, 2009 11:06 AM, "red1" 
wrote:


Just to inform that i am in CyberJaya, in a small room with powerful
secured web access, next to a fully equipped pantry of anything 3-in-1s,
across the road from MDec.

Be here every Friday till 2010. Solat at Putra Jaya new masjid. After
that is party time.


  

 

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[osdcmy-public] Re: red1 is in the building

[Nasrul Amri Samsudin]

New office?

Sent using Android

On Oct 9, 2009 11:06 AM, "red1"  wrote:


Just to inform that i am in CyberJaya, in a small room with powerful
secured web access, next to a fully equipped pantry of anything 3-in-1s,
across the road from MDec.

Be here every Friday till 2010. Solat at Putra Jaya new masjid. After
that is party time.



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[osdcmy-public] Re: red1 is in the building

[Najah]

Congrats..! will visit u soon!

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:06 AM, red1  wrote:

>
> Just to inform that i am in CyberJaya, in a small room with powerful
> secured web access, next to a fully equipped pantry of anything 3-in-1s,
> across the road from MDec.
>
> Be here every Friday till 2010. Solat at Putra Jaya new masjid. After
> that is party time.
>
>
> >
>


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[osdcmy-public] red1 is in the building

[red1]

Just to inform that i am in CyberJaya, in a small room with powerful
secured web access, next to a fully equipped pantry of anything 3-in-1s,
across the road from MDec.

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[osdcmy-public] Re: untangle

[Mohd Hidzuan]

caya lah semua dewa2 dah bersuara. baru masuk office setelah satu hari
tidur .. :-D
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2009/10/9 Harisfazillah Jamel 

>
> Boleh cuba ini
>
> http://wiki.squid-cache.org/ConfigExamples/DynamicContent/YouTube
>
> http://wiki.squid-cache.org/Features/StoreUrlRewrite
>
> Saya tengah cari link panduan rakan saya tentang cache youtube
>
>
> http://piju.fakap.net/2008/11/08/tutorial-how-to-cache-youtube-using-squid-caching-proxy/
>
>
> 2009/10/8 A Johan :
> > cikgu
> >
> > slowdown during lunch time is common problem for broadband di sbbkan of
> the
> > bandwidth sharing. selalu nya time lunch orang kat office akan di beri
> > kelonggaran browsing. jadi kalau tengok traffic pattern memang time lunch
> /
> > petang dekat balik kerja and ada satu slot lagi malam (tapi kurang pasti
> jam
> > berapa) internet usage memang tinggi.
> >
> > untangle setahu saya tak boleh menyelesaikan masalah ni sbb masalah ni
> > berlaku selepas keluar dari untangle. spt yg di suggest oleh bro bizkut,
> > caching boleh mengurangkan masalah ni.
> >
> > however, dgn penggunaan untangle atau squid kita boleh buat traffic
> shaping
> > so that traffic ke eduwebtv ada high priority dari youtube etc. dlm
> > experience saya youtube ni memang selalu buat internet connectivity slow.
> >
> > maybe ada orang lain boleh bg better suggestion.
> >
> > aj
> >
> > 2009/10/8 bizkut limau 
> >>
> >> Setup squid.cache itu video.selesai masalah.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On 2009 Okt 8, at 18:20, cikgu ayob  wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Assalamualaikumkawan2..
> >> > aktif sungguh group ni
> >> >
> >> > ada infotd ada call gitn..
> >> > mereka ada perancangan untuk upgrade mana2,,,sekolah...untuk pakai
> >> > adsl..line
> >> > so...memudahkan kita...untuk buat projek tu...proxy..
> >> > bukan apa...eduwebtv dh ada...still x leh  running baik under
> >> > schoolnet tu..
> >> > pagi ok...mai tengah harislow..
> >> > mau pula youtube...jalan..lagi la..
> >> > dlm eduwebtv..tu..mcm2 ada..baik untuk pelajar2.
> >> > tp...x semua video boleh download..
> >> > so..streaming ...so...slow la. so buang masa pembelajaran kami..
> >> > untangle ...leh setel x problem ni...
> >> > th x...kat sekolah ..tu..mcm2 teknologi ada...cuma..still mcm tu
> >> > juga..
> >> > kerana...ramai guru x mahu berubah...tambah pula..talian internet
> >> > slow..
> >> > lagi..la..
> >> > so...pada pakar2 oss..jom kita serbu sekolah.untuk selesaikan
> >> > masalah ni
> >> > ada juga sekolah  yang pakai 4mbps speed internet..laju tu,,
> >> > tp..x guna secara menyeluruh..harap oscc support juga..tq
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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[osdcmy-public] Re: Penguin Masuk Kampung

[Shukri Jahari]

gr8. thanks.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 09:57, darXness darXness  wrote:

>
> im in...
>
> >
>


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im in...

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[osdcmy-public] Re: Penguin Masuk Kampung

[Shukri Jahari]

Terima kasih. Silakan. Harapnya dapat jumlah muktamad kengkawan OSS yang
akan hadir selewat2nya rabu depan untuk urusan penginapan dan merangka
perjalanan program.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 09:44, Harisfazillah Jamel
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>
> Saya akan hadir. Mungkin dengan beberapa rakan OSS yang lain.
>
> 2009/10/8 Shukri Jahari :
> > Najah: gr8... jgn lupa bawak khemah
> > Raja: no problem, more to come, no worries
> >
> > 2009/10/8 Raja Iskandar Shah 
> >>
> >> berbanyak maaf sebab tak dapat attend weekend tu.
>
> >
>


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[osdcmy-public] Re: Penguin Masuk Kampung

[Harisfazillah Jamel]

Saya akan hadir. Mungkin dengan beberapa rakan OSS yang lain.

2009/10/8 Shukri Jahari :
> Najah: gr8... jgn lupa bawak khemah
> Raja: no problem, more to come, no worries
>
> 2009/10/8 Raja Iskandar Shah 
>>
>> berbanyak maaf sebab tak dapat attend weekend tu.

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[osdcmy-public] Re: untangle

[Harisfazillah Jamel]

Boleh cuba ini

http://wiki.squid-cache.org/ConfigExamples/DynamicContent/YouTube

http://wiki.squid-cache.org/Features/StoreUrlRewrite

Saya tengah cari link panduan rakan saya tentang cache youtube

http://piju.fakap.net/2008/11/08/tutorial-how-to-cache-youtube-using-squid-caching-proxy/


2009/10/8 A Johan :
> cikgu
>
> slowdown during lunch time is common problem for broadband di sbbkan of the
> bandwidth sharing. selalu nya time lunch orang kat office akan di beri
> kelonggaran browsing. jadi kalau tengok traffic pattern memang time lunch /
> petang dekat balik kerja and ada satu slot lagi malam (tapi kurang pasti jam
> berapa) internet usage memang tinggi.
>
> untangle setahu saya tak boleh menyelesaikan masalah ni sbb masalah ni
> berlaku selepas keluar dari untangle. spt yg di suggest oleh bro bizkut,
> caching boleh mengurangkan masalah ni.
>
> however, dgn penggunaan untangle atau squid kita boleh buat traffic shaping
> so that traffic ke eduwebtv ada high priority dari youtube etc. dlm
> experience saya youtube ni memang selalu buat internet connectivity slow.
>
> maybe ada orang lain boleh bg better suggestion.
>
> aj
>
> 2009/10/8 bizkut limau 
>>
>> Setup squid.cache itu video.selesai masalah.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 2009 Okt 8, at 18:20, cikgu ayob  wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Assalamualaikumkawan2..
>> > aktif sungguh group ni
>> >
>> > ada infotd ada call gitn..
>> > mereka ada perancangan untuk upgrade mana2,,,sekolah...untuk pakai
>> > adsl..line
>> > so...memudahkan kita...untuk buat projek tu...proxy..
>> > bukan apa...eduwebtv dh ada...still x leh  running baik under
>> > schoolnet tu..
>> > pagi ok...mai tengah harislow..
>> > mau pula youtube...jalan..lagi la..
>> > dlm eduwebtv..tu..mcm2 ada..baik untuk pelajar2.
>> > tp...x semua video boleh download..
>> > so..streaming ...so...slow la. so buang masa pembelajaran kami..
>> > untangle ...leh setel x problem ni...
>> > th x...kat sekolah ..tu..mcm2 teknologi ada...cuma..still mcm tu
>> > juga..
>> > kerana...ramai guru x mahu berubah...tambah pula..talian internet
>> > slow..
>> > lagi..la..
>> > so...pada pakar2 oss..jom kita serbu sekolah.untuk selesaikan
>> > masalah ni
>> > ada juga sekolah  yang pakai 4mbps speed internet..laju tu,,
>> > tp..x guna secara menyeluruh..harap oscc support juga..tq
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Jonathan Swift  - "May you live every day of your life."
> >
>



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[osdcmy-public] Re: Wakil OSDC untuk MyGOSSCon 24 WebDev Contest

[Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini]

saya boleh buat grafik..
tapi layakkah daku? kuh3 [?]

2009/10/8 aziman noor 

> code satu hal... satu yang terror grafik nih... aku bab grafik nih la yang
> gagal bersyarat sikit.
> Icon la, butang, banner, footer... byk tuh... so 1 dr 5 orang mesti reti
> grafik. GIMP. NVU.
>
> 2009/10/8 A Johan 
>
> tuan rizal,
>>
>> i'm in! ada kena meeting ke apa? aku dah lama tak tulis code ni.
>>
>> aj
>>
>> 2009/10/8 Mohd Hidzuan 
>>
>> jangan main bomoh yaa.. muahahahaa
>>> ...
>>> To follow the path, look to the master,
>>> follow the master, walk with the master,
>>> see through the master, become the master.
>>>
>>> Selasih Net Enterprise
>>> "we never sleep, we just park our head"
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/10/8 sweemeng ng 
>>>
>>> Ganas macam lawan.


 2009/10/8 nuhaa 

> dealine dah extend ke 20 oct
>
>
>
> Nuhaa All Bakry / cawanpink
> http://cawanpink.net
> http://fosschix.my
>
>
> 2009/10/8 Raja Iskandar Shah 
>
>> masih boleh masuk part of the team. sebab interface design kira 20%
>> dari markah.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/10/8 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini 
>>
>> belum cukup ilmu la nak buat web development framework..
>>> kalau jadi pom-pom boy kat belakang boleh la [?]
>>>
>>> 2009/10/8 Mohd Rizal Mohd Shahari 
>>>
>>>
 Saya akan buat 1 team tu. Maaf lambat reply sbb jarang tgk e-mel
 sejak
 asyik ulang alik dari hospital ni.

 Ada sesiapa yg nak masuk team ni sila bagi nama.



 2009/10/8 nuhaa :
 > kita takdak main rasuah2 ye
 >
 > osdc takde wakil ke?? at least 2 org, max 5 org
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > Nuhaa All Bakry / cawanpink
 > http://cawanpink.net
 > http://fosschix.my
 >
 >
 > 2009/10/8 Raja Iskandar Shah 
 >>
 >> ikut perisikan saya cik cawanpink.net adalah salah sorang ajk
 >> pertandingan. rasanya boh pun mungkin terlibat sama.
 >>
 >> tapi saya ingin ingatkan rasuah dalam bentuk hadiah / saguhati /
 salah
 >> guna kuasa adalah salah dari segi undang2 ;-)
 >>
 >> kalau tanya team krimnet - depa nak makan free aje.
 hahahaha. love
 >> of coding + free food ;-)
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> 2009/10/8 Mohammad Sallehuddin Kodri 
 >>>
 >>> cayalah. harap2 bos Raja n geng boleh menang. kalo osdc.my ader
 team pun
 >>> leh menang gak. kira bolot ar semua.
 >>>
 >>> Sent from my iPhone
 >>> On 2009 Okt 8, at 10:47 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah <
 rajaiskand...@gmail.com>
 >>> wrote:
 >>>
 >>> saya pun harap ada team osdc.my sendiri. no worries about menang
 atau
 >>> kalah atau malu - itu semua adat permainan (man utd fc pun kalah
 juga). yang
 >>> penting turun gelanggang.
 >>>
 >>> krimnet memang akan hantar team sendiri dan sekarang ini kami
 standby
 >>> kalau perlu jadi wakil bersama osdc.my. in case osdc.my takde
 wakil sendiri.
 >>> kalau nak letak osdc.my-krimnet pun boleh jugak. pasal krimnet
 pun asalnya
 >>> dari kelab remaja jugak.
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> 2009/10/8 mohd fenris 
 
  just my 2 cent...
  kenapa nak ade *-osdc.my ? kan ke lebih afdal @ bagus kalau
 pakai nama
  kumpulan sayabanggadengannamakumpulansaya (sbg cth) . so kalau
 menang ke
  kalah ker .. saguhati ker .. x de la nak tunding jari sana sini
 ...
  sy yakin ada team dari osdc.my , betul x rakan2?
 
  On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah
   wrote:
 >
 > topic akan diberikan masa mula competition day tu - tak aci
 lah kalau
 > kasi awal2
 >
 > cik cawanpink.net lebih arif
 >
 > bos, kalau takde team osdc.my, boleh ke kami guna nama
 krimnet-osdc.my
 > ? closing date ahad 11 oct 2009. kami dah nak kena submit esok
 pagi. winning
 > boleh split 50/50. need to know by 8am esok.
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:45 PM, A Johan 
 wrote:
 >>
 >> so apa format competition ni? kita boleh buat apa2 webapp ke
 masa
 >> competition day tu dia bagi keyword/topic lps tu kita create
 the webapp kat
 >> situ jugak?
 >>
 >> aku nak pergi rendam tangan dalam ais untuk m

[osdcmy-public] Re: 2 idea setelah masuk linux varsiti

[Flaming Firestonez]

salam sejahtera semua,

Menarik juga pasal cadangan live hacking tu. Kelemahan keselamatan
tidak pada pc/notebook/server je. cctv, network cam, billboard, atm
(terutama yg based on propreitary OS :D) kat malaysia ni pun banyak
yang bocor juga. ;)

P/S: Microsoft masih x patch SMB2 lagi kan? Kalau bug yg sama wujud
pada FLOSS, rasanya x sampai 24 jam sudah ada patch.

Wassalam.


On 10/8/09, fenris  wrote:
> Br lps tgk surrogates :)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: lutfi raffi 
> Sent: Thursday, 8 October 2009 5:00 PM
> To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [osdcmy-public] Re: 2 idea setelah masuk linux varsiti
>
> tiba-tiba teringat cerita die hard 4.0.
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 4:54 AM, Boh Yap  wrote:
>
>  hi,
>
>  the "Open Hacking" idea is really interesting and will draw a lot of
>  attention, so I'll like to add a few thoughts, from different
>  angles...
>
>  As a pure publicity exercise its great, but whether it will benefit
>  FOSS, there is pro & cons.
>
>  1. We will attract people, but the right ppl?
>
>  Yes, quite a few Uni 'kids' I talk to say they wanna be hackers (or
>  'security experts'), due to the 'glory' and common media perception...
>
>  But the real hackers know, it takes hard work, experience and real
> knowledge.
>
>  What will happen is you will attract a lot of 'wannabe hackers', to
>  your 'hacking school'. You/We'll be conducting a lot of classes, but
>  soon as they find out they have to read thick technical manuals
>  they'll give up. From my experiance in teaching not only programming,
>  but other skills that  require real dedication, hard work & sacrifice,
>  the drop rate is 90% if you're lucky.
>
>  Or they become (or we teach them to be) 'script kiddies', trawl the
>  'net for exploits and tools other have written and use those. So we
>  are back to square one, just being 'Users' and not 'Producers'. Come
>  on, guys (who really know the stuff) with FOSS tools like Metasploit,
>  Nessus, etc...  it ain't difficult.
>
>
>  2. We end up creating a bunch of ppl that controls a botnet, and
>  become real 'crackers'!
>
>  With some knowledge, and the tools are out there, a bunch of hackers
>  can start building a botnet, and then then start to use this for
>  really bad purposes. This is turning to the 'darkside' - do we want to
>  create that situation?
>
>
>  Now for the positive points:
>
>  3. All the security hacks will show the weakness of Proprietary SW (PSW),
>    especially MS.
>
>  There's a lot of MS based servers (and some Linux one's prob) that
>  have not been patched with the latest security upgrades (dare I guess
>  many government sites?). Exploiting these shouldn't be too diffcult.
>
>  Showing the public how vulnerable PSW is may swing support towards FOSS!
>
>
>  4. Demo of Security attacks should also target clients/desk/lap tops,
>  not only servers.
>
>  Fact is, many Windoze clients get easily compromised, via email and
>  web and become bots, which are then used for spamming etc. I get spam
>  from idiots whose computers have been compromised, but still don't
>  seem do anything about it!
>
>  If hacks can be done to show how vulnerable the average client is,
>  then it will serve to educate the public, strike a blow against the
>  botnets, and maybe get users to switch to a 'safer' OS.
>
>  let the flames begin ;-)
>
>
>
>
>  2009/10/8 lutfi raffi :
>> Template lebih kurang amcam ni:
>  >
>  > http://www.malaysiakini.tv/video/17876/bns-postal-votes-in-danger-.html
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > 2009/10/8 lutfi raffi 
>  >>
>  >> @wan: masih berteguh untuk buat macam malaysia kini sebab nampak lebih
>  >> kemas dan profesional...
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> 2009/10/8 red1 
>  >>>
>  >>> Mohd Rizal Mohd Shahari wrote:
>  >>> > WOW!... Idea bernas ni. Tp live hacking tu x kantoi ke nnt?
>  >>> >
>  >>> >
>  >>> >
>  >>>  i bincang with Syazwan because we want to give ideas that can pull the
>  >>> crowds and layppl in the streets. If you interbiu about FOSS org
>  >>> mengantuk je. Student pun tanak datang dengar. But if u say, "u going
> to
>  >>> show how to hack into the universiti, silap2 pak guard dengan pembasuh
>  >>> jamban pun nak masuk dengar.
>  >>>
>  >>> Of course, kene minta kebenaran memang itu syarat tetap. Lepas tu boleh
>  >>> bagi mereka masa utk bersiap dan kita rancang serangan ke atas mereka.
>  >>> Apabila dapat tembus, silap2 dapat hadiah dari mereka suruh tutup mulut
>  >>> tentang kekantoian sistem mereka. Atau hacker kita diambik sebagai
>  >>> pakar-perunding luar. Macam ni akan lebih memasyurkan HACKERM sehingga
>  >>> luar negara, kerana yang saya tahu tiada lagi program TV yang
>  >>> menunjukkan keje2 mcm ni.
>  >>>
>  >>> So, berapa hacker kita ade ni? Takkan Syazwan seorang je? Cmon.. lets
>  >>> assemble 3 platoon elit komando siber kita!
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>
>  >
>  >
>  > >
>  >
>
>
>
>  --
> #---
>  regds,
>
>  Boh Heong, Yap
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
>

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[osdcmy-public] Re: 2 idea setelah masuk linux varsiti

[fenris]

Br lps tgk surrogates :)

-Original Message-
From: lutfi raffi 
Sent: Thursday, 8 October 2009 5:00 PM
To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: [osdcmy-public] Re: 2 idea setelah masuk linux varsiti

tiba-tiba teringat cerita die hard 4.0. 




On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 4:54 AM, Boh Yap  wrote:

 hi,

 the "Open Hacking" idea is really interesting and will draw a lot of
 attention, so I'll like to add a few thoughts, from different
 angles...

 As a pure publicity exercise its great, but whether it will benefit
 FOSS, there is pro & cons.

 1. We will attract people, but the right ppl?

 Yes, quite a few Uni 'kids' I talk to say they wanna be hackers (or
 'security experts'), due to the 'glory' and common media perception...

 But the real hackers know, it takes hard work, experience and real knowledge.

 What will happen is you will attract a lot of 'wannabe hackers', to
 your 'hacking school'. You/We'll be conducting a lot of classes, but
 soon as they find out they have to read thick technical manuals
 they'll give up. From my experiance in teaching not only programming,
 but other skills that  require real dedication, hard work & sacrifice,
 the drop rate is 90% if you're lucky.

 Or they become (or we teach them to be) 'script kiddies', trawl the
 'net for exploits and tools other have written and use those. So we
 are back to square one, just being 'Users' and not 'Producers'. Come
 on, guys (who really know the stuff) with FOSS tools like Metasploit,
 Nessus, etc...  it ain't difficult.


 2. We end up creating a bunch of ppl that controls a botnet, and
 become real 'crackers'!

 With some knowledge, and the tools are out there, a bunch of hackers
 can start building a botnet, and then then start to use this for
 really bad purposes. This is turning to the 'darkside' - do we want to
 create that situation?


 Now for the positive points:

 3. All the security hacks will show the weakness of Proprietary SW (PSW),
   especially MS.

 There's a lot of MS based servers (and some Linux one's prob) that
 have not been patched with the latest security upgrades (dare I guess
 many government sites?). Exploiting these shouldn't be too diffcult.

 Showing the public how vulnerable PSW is may swing support towards FOSS!


 4. Demo of Security attacks should also target clients/desk/lap tops,
 not only servers.

 Fact is, many Windoze clients get easily compromised, via email and
 web and become bots, which are then used for spamming etc. I get spam
 from idiots whose computers have been compromised, but still don't
 seem do anything about it!

 If hacks can be done to show how vulnerable the average client is,
 then it will serve to educate the public, strike a blow against the
 botnets, and maybe get users to switch to a 'safer' OS.

 let the flames begin ;-)




 2009/10/8 lutfi raffi :
> Template lebih kurang amcam ni:
 >
 > http://www.malaysiakini.tv/video/17876/bns-postal-votes-in-danger-.html
 >
 >
 >
 > 2009/10/8 lutfi raffi 
 >>
 >> @wan: masih berteguh untuk buat macam malaysia kini sebab nampak lebih
 >> kemas dan profesional...
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> 2009/10/8 red1 
 >>>
 >>> Mohd Rizal Mohd Shahari wrote:
 >>> > WOW!... Idea bernas ni. Tp live hacking tu x kantoi ke nnt?
 >>> >
 >>> >
 >>> >
 >>>  i bincang with Syazwan because we want to give ideas that can pull the
 >>> crowds and layppl in the streets. If you interbiu about FOSS org
 >>> mengantuk je. Student pun tanak datang dengar. But if u say, "u going to
 >>> show how to hack into the universiti, silap2 pak guard dengan pembasuh
 >>> jamban pun nak masuk dengar.
 >>>
 >>> Of course, kene minta kebenaran memang itu syarat tetap. Lepas tu boleh
 >>> bagi mereka masa utk bersiap dan kita rancang serangan ke atas mereka.
 >>> Apabila dapat tembus, silap2 dapat hadiah dari mereka suruh tutup mulut
 >>> tentang kekantoian sistem mereka. Atau hacker kita diambik sebagai
 >>> pakar-perunding luar. Macam ni akan lebih memasyurkan HACKERM sehingga
 >>> luar negara, kerana yang saya tahu tiada lagi program TV yang
 >>> menunjukkan keje2 mcm ni.
 >>>
 >>> So, berapa hacker kita ade ni? Takkan Syazwan seorang je? Cmon.. lets
 >>> assemble 3 platoon elit komando siber kita!
 >>>
 >>>
 >>
 >
 >
 > >
 >



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[osdcmy-public] Re: Wakil OSDC untuk MyGOSSCon 24 WebDev Contest

[aziman noor]

code satu hal... satu yang terror grafik nih... aku bab grafik nih la yang
gagal bersyarat sikit.
Icon la, butang, banner, footer... byk tuh... so 1 dr 5 orang mesti reti
grafik. GIMP. NVU.

2009/10/8 A Johan 

> tuan rizal,
>
> i'm in! ada kena meeting ke apa? aku dah lama tak tulis code ni.
>
> aj
>
> 2009/10/8 Mohd Hidzuan 
>
> jangan main bomoh yaa.. muahahahaa
>> ...
>> To follow the path, look to the master,
>> follow the master, walk with the master,
>> see through the master, become the master.
>>
>> Selasih Net Enterprise
>> "we never sleep, we just park our head"
>>
>>
>> Sent from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
>>
>>
>> 2009/10/8 sweemeng ng 
>>
>> Ganas macam lawan.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/10/8 nuhaa 
>>>
 dealine dah extend ke 20 oct



 Nuhaa All Bakry / cawanpink
 http://cawanpink.net
 http://fosschix.my


 2009/10/8 Raja Iskandar Shah 

> masih boleh masuk part of the team. sebab interface design kira 20%
> dari markah.
>
>
>
> 2009/10/8 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini 
>
> belum cukup ilmu la nak buat web development framework..
>> kalau jadi pom-pom boy kat belakang boleh la [?]
>>
>> 2009/10/8 Mohd Rizal Mohd Shahari 
>>
>>
>>> Saya akan buat 1 team tu. Maaf lambat reply sbb jarang tgk e-mel
>>> sejak
>>> asyik ulang alik dari hospital ni.
>>>
>>> Ada sesiapa yg nak masuk team ni sila bagi nama.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/10/8 nuhaa :
>>> > kita takdak main rasuah2 ye
>>> >
>>> > osdc takde wakil ke?? at least 2 org, max 5 org
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Nuhaa All Bakry / cawanpink
>>> > http://cawanpink.net
>>> > http://fosschix.my
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 2009/10/8 Raja Iskandar Shah 
>>> >>
>>> >> ikut perisikan saya cik cawanpink.net adalah salah sorang ajk
>>> >> pertandingan. rasanya boh pun mungkin terlibat sama.
>>> >>
>>> >> tapi saya ingin ingatkan rasuah dalam bentuk hadiah / saguhati /
>>> salah
>>> >> guna kuasa adalah salah dari segi undang2 ;-)
>>> >>
>>> >> kalau tanya team krimnet - depa nak makan free aje.
>>> hahahaha. love
>>> >> of coding + free food ;-)
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> 2009/10/8 Mohammad Sallehuddin Kodri 
>>> >>>
>>> >>> cayalah. harap2 bos Raja n geng boleh menang. kalo osdc.my ader
>>> team pun
>>> >>> leh menang gak. kira bolot ar semua.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> >>> On 2009 Okt 8, at 10:47 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah <
>>> rajaiskand...@gmail.com>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> saya pun harap ada team osdc.my sendiri. no worries about menang
>>> atau
>>> >>> kalah atau malu - itu semua adat permainan (man utd fc pun kalah
>>> juga). yang
>>> >>> penting turun gelanggang.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> krimnet memang akan hantar team sendiri dan sekarang ini kami
>>> standby
>>> >>> kalau perlu jadi wakil bersama osdc.my. in case osdc.my takde
>>> wakil sendiri.
>>> >>> kalau nak letak osdc.my-krimnet pun boleh jugak. pasal krimnet
>>> pun asalnya
>>> >>> dari kelab remaja jugak.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 2009/10/8 mohd fenris 
>>> 
>>>  just my 2 cent...
>>>  kenapa nak ade *-osdc.my ? kan ke lebih afdal @ bagus kalau
>>> pakai nama
>>>  kumpulan sayabanggadengannamakumpulansaya (sbg cth) . so kalau
>>> menang ke
>>>  kalah ker .. saguhati ker .. x de la nak tunding jari sana sini
>>> ...
>>>  sy yakin ada team dari osdc.my , betul x rakan2?
>>> 
>>>  On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah
>>>   wrote:
>>> >
>>> > topic akan diberikan masa mula competition day tu - tak aci lah
>>> kalau
>>> > kasi awal2
>>> >
>>> > cik cawanpink.net lebih arif
>>> >
>>> > bos, kalau takde team osdc.my, boleh ke kami guna nama
>>> krimnet-osdc.my
>>> > ? closing date ahad 11 oct 2009. kami dah nak kena submit esok
>>> pagi. winning
>>> > boleh split 50/50. need to know by 8am esok.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:45 PM, A Johan 
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> so apa format competition ni? kita boleh buat apa2 webapp ke
>>> masa
>>> >> competition day tu dia bagi keyword/topic lps tu kita create
>>> the webapp kat
>>> >> situ jugak?
>>> >>
>>> >> aku nak pergi rendam tangan dalam ais untuk menaip dgn lebih
>>> laju masa
>>> >> competition karang...
>>> >>
>>> >> aj
>>> >>
>>> >> 2009/10/7 Mohd Hidzuan 
>>> >>>
>>> >>> bro boleh wakil OSDC pulak.. lawan tetap lawan,, hehehe
>>>

[osdcmy-public] Re: untangle

[A Johan]

cikgu

slowdown during lunch time is common problem for broadband di sbbkan of the
bandwidth sharing. selalu nya time lunch orang kat office akan di beri
kelonggaran browsing. jadi kalau tengok traffic pattern memang time lunch /
petang dekat balik kerja and ada satu slot lagi malam (tapi kurang pasti jam
berapa) internet usage memang tinggi.

untangle setahu saya tak boleh menyelesaikan masalah ni sbb masalah ni
berlaku selepas keluar dari untangle. spt yg di suggest oleh bro bizkut,
caching boleh mengurangkan masalah ni.

however, dgn penggunaan untangle atau squid kita boleh buat traffic shaping
so that traffic ke eduwebtv ada high priority dari youtube etc. dlm
experience saya youtube ni memang selalu buat internet connectivity slow.

maybe ada orang lain boleh bg better suggestion.

aj

2009/10/8 bizkut limau 

>
> Setup squid.cache itu video.selesai masalah.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 2009 Okt 8, at 18:20, cikgu ayob  wrote:
>
> >
> > Assalamualaikumkawan2..
> > aktif sungguh group ni
> >
> > ada infotd ada call gitn..
> > mereka ada perancangan untuk upgrade mana2,,,sekolah...untuk pakai
> > adsl..line
> > so...memudahkan kita...untuk buat projek tu...proxy..
> > bukan apa...eduwebtv dh ada...still x leh  running baik under
> > schoolnet tu..
> > pagi ok...mai tengah harislow..
> > mau pula youtube...jalan..lagi la..
> > dlm eduwebtv..tu..mcm2 ada..baik untuk pelajar2.
> > tp...x semua video boleh download..
> > so..streaming ...so...slow la. so buang masa pembelajaran kami..
> > untangle ...leh setel x problem ni...
> > th x...kat sekolah ..tu..mcm2 teknologi ada...cuma..still mcm tu
> > juga..
> > kerana...ramai guru x mahu berubah...tambah pula..talian internet
> > slow..
> > lagi..la..
> > so...pada pakar2 oss..jom kita serbu sekolah.untuk selesaikan
> > masalah ni
> > ada juga sekolah  yang pakai 4mbps speed internet..laju tu,,
> > tp..x guna secara menyeluruh..harap oscc support juga..tq
> >
> >
> > >
>
> >
>


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[osdcmy-public] Re: Wakil OSDC untuk MyGOSSCon 24 WebDev Contest

[A Johan]

tuan rizal,

i'm in! ada kena meeting ke apa? aku dah lama tak tulis code ni.

aj

2009/10/8 Mohd Hidzuan 

> jangan main bomoh yaa.. muahahahaa
> ...
> To follow the path, look to the master,
> follow the master, walk with the master,
> see through the master, become the master.
>
> Selasih Net Enterprise
> "we never sleep, we just park our head"
>
>
> Sent from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
>
>
> 2009/10/8 sweemeng ng 
>
> Ganas macam lawan.
>>
>>
>> 2009/10/8 nuhaa 
>>
>>> dealine dah extend ke 20 oct
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Nuhaa All Bakry / cawanpink
>>> http://cawanpink.net
>>> http://fosschix.my
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/10/8 Raja Iskandar Shah 
>>>
 masih boleh masuk part of the team. sebab interface design kira 20% dari
 markah.



 2009/10/8 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini 

 belum cukup ilmu la nak buat web development framework..
> kalau jadi pom-pom boy kat belakang boleh la [?]
>
> 2009/10/8 Mohd Rizal Mohd Shahari 
>
>
>> Saya akan buat 1 team tu. Maaf lambat reply sbb jarang tgk e-mel sejak
>> asyik ulang alik dari hospital ni.
>>
>> Ada sesiapa yg nak masuk team ni sila bagi nama.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/10/8 nuhaa :
>> > kita takdak main rasuah2 ye
>> >
>> > osdc takde wakil ke?? at least 2 org, max 5 org
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Nuhaa All Bakry / cawanpink
>> > http://cawanpink.net
>> > http://fosschix.my
>> >
>> >
>> > 2009/10/8 Raja Iskandar Shah 
>> >>
>> >> ikut perisikan saya cik cawanpink.net adalah salah sorang ajk
>> >> pertandingan. rasanya boh pun mungkin terlibat sama.
>> >>
>> >> tapi saya ingin ingatkan rasuah dalam bentuk hadiah / saguhati /
>> salah
>> >> guna kuasa adalah salah dari segi undang2 ;-)
>> >>
>> >> kalau tanya team krimnet - depa nak makan free aje.
>> hahahaha. love
>> >> of coding + free food ;-)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2009/10/8 Mohammad Sallehuddin Kodri 
>> >>>
>> >>> cayalah. harap2 bos Raja n geng boleh menang. kalo osdc.my ader
>> team pun
>> >>> leh menang gak. kira bolot ar semua.
>> >>>
>> >>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>> On 2009 Okt 8, at 10:47 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah <
>> rajaiskand...@gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> saya pun harap ada team osdc.my sendiri. no worries about menang
>> atau
>> >>> kalah atau malu - itu semua adat permainan (man utd fc pun kalah
>> juga). yang
>> >>> penting turun gelanggang.
>> >>>
>> >>> krimnet memang akan hantar team sendiri dan sekarang ini kami
>> standby
>> >>> kalau perlu jadi wakil bersama osdc.my. in case osdc.my takde
>> wakil sendiri.
>> >>> kalau nak letak osdc.my-krimnet pun boleh jugak. pasal krimnet pun
>> asalnya
>> >>> dari kelab remaja jugak.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> 2009/10/8 mohd fenris 
>> 
>>  just my 2 cent...
>>  kenapa nak ade *-osdc.my ? kan ke lebih afdal @ bagus kalau pakai
>> nama
>>  kumpulan sayabanggadengannamakumpulansaya (sbg cth) . so kalau
>> menang ke
>>  kalah ker .. saguhati ker .. x de la nak tunding jari sana sini
>> ...
>>  sy yakin ada team dari osdc.my , betul x rakan2?
>> 
>>  On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah
>>   wrote:
>> >
>> > topic akan diberikan masa mula competition day tu - tak aci lah
>> kalau
>> > kasi awal2
>> >
>> > cik cawanpink.net lebih arif
>> >
>> > bos, kalau takde team osdc.my, boleh ke kami guna nama
>> krimnet-osdc.my
>> > ? closing date ahad 11 oct 2009. kami dah nak kena submit esok
>> pagi. winning
>> > boleh split 50/50. need to know by 8am esok.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:45 PM, A Johan 
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> so apa format competition ni? kita boleh buat apa2 webapp ke
>> masa
>> >> competition day tu dia bagi keyword/topic lps tu kita create
>> the webapp kat
>> >> situ jugak?
>> >>
>> >> aku nak pergi rendam tangan dalam ais untuk menaip dgn lebih
>> laju masa
>> >> competition karang...
>> >>
>> >> aj
>> >>
>> >> 2009/10/7 Mohd Hidzuan 
>> >>>
>> >>> bro boleh wakil OSDC pulak.. lawan tetap lawan,, hehehe
>> >>>
>> ...
>> >>> To follow the path, look to the master,
>> >>> follow the master, walk with the master,
>> >>> see through the master, become the master.
>> >>>
>> >>> Selasih Net Enterprise
>> >>> "we never sleep, we just park our head"
>> >>>
>> >>

[osdcmy-public] Re: untangle

[bizkut limau]

Setup squid.cache itu video.selesai masalah.



Sent from my iPhone

On 2009 Okt 8, at 18:20, cikgu ayob  wrote:

>
> Assalamualaikumkawan2..
> aktif sungguh group ni
>
> ada infotd ada call gitn..
> mereka ada perancangan untuk upgrade mana2,,,sekolah...untuk pakai
> adsl..line
> so...memudahkan kita...untuk buat projek tu...proxy..
> bukan apa...eduwebtv dh ada...still x leh  running baik under
> schoolnet tu..
> pagi ok...mai tengah harislow..
> mau pula youtube...jalan..lagi la..
> dlm eduwebtv..tu..mcm2 ada..baik untuk pelajar2.
> tp...x semua video boleh download..
> so..streaming ...so...slow la. so buang masa pembelajaran kami..
> untangle ...leh setel x problem ni...
> th x...kat sekolah ..tu..mcm2 teknologi ada...cuma..still mcm tu
> juga..
> kerana...ramai guru x mahu berubah...tambah pula..talian internet
> slow..
> lagi..la..
> so...pada pakar2 oss..jom kita serbu sekolah.untuk selesaikan
> masalah ni
> ada juga sekolah  yang pakai 4mbps speed internet..laju tu,,
> tp..x guna secara menyeluruh..harap oscc support juga..tq
>
>
> >

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[osdcmy-public] Re: Wakil OSDC untuk MyGOSSCon 24 WebDev Contest

[Mohd Hidzuan]

jangan main bomoh yaa.. muahahahaa
...
To follow the path, look to the master,
follow the master, walk with the master,
see through the master, become the master.

Selasih Net Enterprise
"we never sleep, we just park our head"


Sent from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia


2009/10/8 sweemeng ng 

> Ganas macam lawan.
>
>
> 2009/10/8 nuhaa 
>
>> dealine dah extend ke 20 oct
>>
>>
>>
>> Nuhaa All Bakry / cawanpink
>> http://cawanpink.net
>> http://fosschix.my
>>
>>
>> 2009/10/8 Raja Iskandar Shah 
>>
>>> masih boleh masuk part of the team. sebab interface design kira 20% dari
>>> markah.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/10/8 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini 
>>>
>>> belum cukup ilmu la nak buat web development framework..
 kalau jadi pom-pom boy kat belakang boleh la [?]

 2009/10/8 Mohd Rizal Mohd Shahari 


> Saya akan buat 1 team tu. Maaf lambat reply sbb jarang tgk e-mel sejak
> asyik ulang alik dari hospital ni.
>
> Ada sesiapa yg nak masuk team ni sila bagi nama.
>
>
>
> 2009/10/8 nuhaa :
> > kita takdak main rasuah2 ye
> >
> > osdc takde wakil ke?? at least 2 org, max 5 org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Nuhaa All Bakry / cawanpink
> > http://cawanpink.net
> > http://fosschix.my
> >
> >
> > 2009/10/8 Raja Iskandar Shah 
> >>
> >> ikut perisikan saya cik cawanpink.net adalah salah sorang ajk
> >> pertandingan. rasanya boh pun mungkin terlibat sama.
> >>
> >> tapi saya ingin ingatkan rasuah dalam bentuk hadiah / saguhati /
> salah
> >> guna kuasa adalah salah dari segi undang2 ;-)
> >>
> >> kalau tanya team krimnet - depa nak makan free aje.
> hahahaha. love
> >> of coding + free food ;-)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2009/10/8 Mohammad Sallehuddin Kodri 
> >>>
> >>> cayalah. harap2 bos Raja n geng boleh menang. kalo osdc.my ader
> team pun
> >>> leh menang gak. kira bolot ar semua.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>> On 2009 Okt 8, at 10:47 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah <
> rajaiskand...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> saya pun harap ada team osdc.my sendiri. no worries about menang
> atau
> >>> kalah atau malu - itu semua adat permainan (man utd fc pun kalah
> juga). yang
> >>> penting turun gelanggang.
> >>>
> >>> krimnet memang akan hantar team sendiri dan sekarang ini kami
> standby
> >>> kalau perlu jadi wakil bersama osdc.my. in case osdc.my takde wakil
> sendiri.
> >>> kalau nak letak osdc.my-krimnet pun boleh jugak. pasal krimnet pun
> asalnya
> >>> dari kelab remaja jugak.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2009/10/8 mohd fenris 
> 
>  just my 2 cent...
>  kenapa nak ade *-osdc.my ? kan ke lebih afdal @ bagus kalau pakai
> nama
>  kumpulan sayabanggadengannamakumpulansaya (sbg cth) . so kalau
> menang ke
>  kalah ker .. saguhati ker .. x de la nak tunding jari sana sini
> ...
>  sy yakin ada team dari osdc.my , betul x rakan2?
> 
>  On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah
>   wrote:
> >
> > topic akan diberikan masa mula competition day tu - tak aci lah
> kalau
> > kasi awal2
> >
> > cik cawanpink.net lebih arif
> >
> > bos, kalau takde team osdc.my, boleh ke kami guna nama
> krimnet-osdc.my
> > ? closing date ahad 11 oct 2009. kami dah nak kena submit esok
> pagi. winning
> > boleh split 50/50. need to know by 8am esok.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:45 PM, A Johan 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> so apa format competition ni? kita boleh buat apa2 webapp ke
> masa
> >> competition day tu dia bagi keyword/topic lps tu kita create the
> webapp kat
> >> situ jugak?
> >>
> >> aku nak pergi rendam tangan dalam ais untuk menaip dgn lebih
> laju masa
> >> competition karang...
> >>
> >> aj
> >>
> >> 2009/10/7 Mohd Hidzuan 
> >>>
> >>> bro boleh wakil OSDC pulak.. lawan tetap lawan,, hehehe
> >>> ...
> >>> To follow the path, look to the master,
> >>> follow the master, walk with the master,
> >>> see through the master, become the master.
> >>>
> >>> Selasih Net Enterprise
> >>> "we never sleep, we just park our head"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sent from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2009/10/7 A Johan 
> 
>  wah ni mcm menarik je ni. aku nak join the team tapi subject
> to tak
>  kena hantar mana2 oleh kompeni. boleh kira ke mcm tu?
> >

[osdcmy-public] Re: untangle

[cikgu ayob]

Assalamualaikumkawan2..
aktif sungguh group ni

ada infotd ada call gitn..
mereka ada perancangan untuk upgrade mana2,,,sekolah...untuk pakai
adsl..line
so...memudahkan kita...untuk buat projek tu...proxy..
bukan apa...eduwebtv dh ada...still x leh  running baik under
schoolnet tu..
pagi ok...mai tengah harislow..
mau pula youtube...jalan..lagi la..
dlm eduwebtv..tu..mcm2 ada..baik untuk pelajar2.
tp...x semua video boleh download..
so..streaming ...so...slow la. so buang masa pembelajaran kami..
untangle ...leh setel x problem ni...
th x...kat sekolah ..tu..mcm2 teknologi ada...cuma..still mcm tu
juga..
kerana...ramai guru x mahu berubah...tambah pula..talian internet
slow..
lagi..la..
so...pada pakar2 oss..jom kita serbu sekolah.untuk selesaikan
masalah ni
ada juga sekolah  yang pakai 4mbps speed internet..laju tu,,
tp..x guna secara menyeluruh..harap oscc support juga..tq


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[osdcmy-public] Re: Poor teaching of CS in Uni, not only in M'sia...

[sweemeng ng]

Job program, == a program to generate job to people.
Not a program to make people get a job outsite

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar wrote:

> sweemeng are you sure university in malaysia is a job program? I wonder why
> a lot of students still lack of skills for job market. They still teach VB
> -_- and only ONE lecturer teach PHP because he is the ONLY one know PHP.
> don't believe me? I was a student there.
>
>
>
>
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> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Adli Azaddin wrote:
>
>> my last U teaches php as a core syllabus
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 5:50 PM, sweemeng ng  wrote:
>>
>>> University in malaysia is a job program. What you expecting
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar <
>>> bizkut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 UiTM takes 5 years to rearrange syllabus.



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 On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:20 PM, darXness darXness 
 wrote:

>
> hmm...sbb ak pun stdent..ak rase ade btolnyer mnde nie...
> "..The reason is that people who teach programming don't program, as
> far as I can tell."
> menarik gak..hehe...
> ape kate,kite wat satu program course,pasal opensource mcm
> ccna,mcse,rhce.so kalo lect cs wajib ade sijil nie  n kene implement
> lam life dorang.tiap tahun kene renew so nak xnak,dorang kene amik
> gak.heheh
>
>
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[osdcmy-public] Re: Poor teaching of CS in Uni, not only in M'sia...

[Hasanuddin Abu Bakar]

sweemeng are you sure university in malaysia is a job program? I wonder why
a lot of students still lack of skills for job market. They still teach VB
-_- and only ONE lecturer teach PHP because he is the ONLY one know PHP.
don't believe me? I was a student there.




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On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Adli Azaddin  wrote:

> my last U teaches php as a core syllabus
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 5:50 PM, sweemeng ng  wrote:
>
>> University in malaysia is a job program. What you expecting
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar > > wrote:
>>
>>> UiTM takes 5 years to rearrange syllabus.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
>>> ---
>>> Ubuntu embedded developer/tester
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut
>>>
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>>>
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>>> http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD25748FC1754D52DAFA5EA8EC5A1B11965D43C5C&op=index
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:20 PM, darXness darXness wrote:
>>>

 hmm...sbb ak pun stdent..ak rase ade btolnyer mnde nie...
 "..The reason is that people who teach programming don't program, as
 far as I can tell."
 menarik gak..hehe...
 ape kate,kite wat satu program course,pasal opensource mcm
 ccna,mcse,rhce.so kalo lect cs wajib ade sijil nie  n kene implement
 lam life dorang.tiap tahun kene renew so nak xnak,dorang kene amik
 gak.heheh



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[osdcmy-public] Re: Poor teaching of CS in Uni, not only in M'sia...

[Adli Azaddin]

my last U teaches php as a core syllabus

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 5:50 PM, sweemeng ng  wrote:

> University in malaysia is a job program. What you expecting
>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar 
> wrote:
>
>> UiTM takes 5 years to rearrange syllabus.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
>> ---
>> Ubuntu embedded developer/tester
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut
>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:20 PM, darXness darXness wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> hmm...sbb ak pun stdent..ak rase ade btolnyer mnde nie...
>>> "..The reason is that people who teach programming don't program, as
>>> far as I can tell."
>>> menarik gak..hehe...
>>> ape kate,kite wat satu program course,pasal opensource mcm
>>> ccna,mcse,rhce.so kalo lect cs wajib ade sijil nie  n kene implement
>>> lam life dorang.tiap tahun kene renew so nak xnak,dorang kene amik
>>> gak.heheh
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
>

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[osdcmy-public] Re: Wakil OSDC untuk MyGOSSCon 24 WebDev Contest

[sweemeng ng]

Ganas macam lawan.

2009/10/8 nuhaa 

> dealine dah extend ke 20 oct
>
>
>
> Nuhaa All Bakry / cawanpink
> http://cawanpink.net
> http://fosschix.my
>
>
> 2009/10/8 Raja Iskandar Shah 
>
>> masih boleh masuk part of the team. sebab interface design kira 20% dari
>> markah.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/10/8 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini 
>>
>> belum cukup ilmu la nak buat web development framework..
>>> kalau jadi pom-pom boy kat belakang boleh la [?]
>>>
>>> 2009/10/8 Mohd Rizal Mohd Shahari 
>>>
>>>
 Saya akan buat 1 team tu. Maaf lambat reply sbb jarang tgk e-mel sejak
 asyik ulang alik dari hospital ni.

 Ada sesiapa yg nak masuk team ni sila bagi nama.



 2009/10/8 nuhaa :
 > kita takdak main rasuah2 ye
 >
 > osdc takde wakil ke?? at least 2 org, max 5 org
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > Nuhaa All Bakry / cawanpink
 > http://cawanpink.net
 > http://fosschix.my
 >
 >
 > 2009/10/8 Raja Iskandar Shah 
 >>
 >> ikut perisikan saya cik cawanpink.net adalah salah sorang ajk
 >> pertandingan. rasanya boh pun mungkin terlibat sama.
 >>
 >> tapi saya ingin ingatkan rasuah dalam bentuk hadiah / saguhati /
 salah
 >> guna kuasa adalah salah dari segi undang2 ;-)
 >>
 >> kalau tanya team krimnet - depa nak makan free aje. hahahaha.
 love
 >> of coding + free food ;-)
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> 2009/10/8 Mohammad Sallehuddin Kodri 
 >>>
 >>> cayalah. harap2 bos Raja n geng boleh menang. kalo osdc.my ader team
 pun
 >>> leh menang gak. kira bolot ar semua.
 >>>
 >>> Sent from my iPhone
 >>> On 2009 Okt 8, at 10:47 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah <
 rajaiskand...@gmail.com>
 >>> wrote:
 >>>
 >>> saya pun harap ada team osdc.my sendiri. no worries about menang
 atau
 >>> kalah atau malu - itu semua adat permainan (man utd fc pun kalah
 juga). yang
 >>> penting turun gelanggang.
 >>>
 >>> krimnet memang akan hantar team sendiri dan sekarang ini kami
 standby
 >>> kalau perlu jadi wakil bersama osdc.my. in case osdc.my takde wakil
 sendiri.
 >>> kalau nak letak osdc.my-krimnet pun boleh jugak. pasal krimnet pun
 asalnya
 >>> dari kelab remaja jugak.
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> 2009/10/8 mohd fenris 
 
  just my 2 cent...
  kenapa nak ade *-osdc.my ? kan ke lebih afdal @ bagus kalau pakai
 nama
  kumpulan sayabanggadengannamakumpulansaya (sbg cth) . so kalau
 menang ke
  kalah ker .. saguhati ker .. x de la nak tunding jari sana sini ...
  sy yakin ada team dari osdc.my , betul x rakan2?
 
  On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah
   wrote:
 >
 > topic akan diberikan masa mula competition day tu - tak aci lah
 kalau
 > kasi awal2
 >
 > cik cawanpink.net lebih arif
 >
 > bos, kalau takde team osdc.my, boleh ke kami guna nama
 krimnet-osdc.my
 > ? closing date ahad 11 oct 2009. kami dah nak kena submit esok
 pagi. winning
 > boleh split 50/50. need to know by 8am esok.
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:45 PM, A Johan 
 wrote:
 >>
 >> so apa format competition ni? kita boleh buat apa2 webapp ke masa
 >> competition day tu dia bagi keyword/topic lps tu kita create the
 webapp kat
 >> situ jugak?
 >>
 >> aku nak pergi rendam tangan dalam ais untuk menaip dgn lebih laju
 masa
 >> competition karang...
 >>
 >> aj
 >>
 >> 2009/10/7 Mohd Hidzuan 
 >>>
 >>> bro boleh wakil OSDC pulak.. lawan tetap lawan,, hehehe
 >>> ...
 >>> To follow the path, look to the master,
 >>> follow the master, walk with the master,
 >>> see through the master, become the master.
 >>>
 >>> Selasih Net Enterprise
 >>> "we never sleep, we just park our head"
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> Sent from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> 2009/10/7 A Johan 
 
  wah ni mcm menarik je ni. aku nak join the team tapi subject to
 tak
  kena hantar mana2 oleh kompeni. boleh kira ke mcm tu?
 
  aj
 
  2009/10/7 Harisfazillah Jamel 
 >
 > OK nohal... Nanti kita tengokkan saper lagi boleh masuk team.
 >
 > 2009/10/7 Mohd Hidzuan :
 > > sama bro.. sebab dia 24 jam..
 >
 >
 
 
 
  --
 
  Samuel Goldwyn  - "I'm willing to admit that I may not always
 be
  right, but I am never wrong."
 

[osdcmy-public] Re: Poor teaching of CS in Uni, not only in M'sia...

[sweemeng ng]

University in malaysia is a job program. What you expecting

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar wrote:

> UiTM takes 5 years to rearrange syllabus.
>
>
>
> Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
> ---
> Ubuntu embedded developer/tester
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut
>
> Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org
>
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> http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD25748FC1754D52DAFA5EA8EC5A1B11965D43C5C&op=index
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:20 PM, darXness darXness wrote:
>
>>
>> hmm...sbb ak pun stdent..ak rase ade btolnyer mnde nie...
>> "..The reason is that people who teach programming don't program, as
>> far as I can tell."
>> menarik gak..hehe...
>> ape kate,kite wat satu program course,pasal opensource mcm
>> ccna,mcse,rhce.so kalo lect cs wajib ade sijil nie  n kene implement
>> lam life dorang.tiap tahun kene renew so nak xnak,dorang kene amik
>> gak.heheh
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
>

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[osdcmy-public] Re: Wakil OSDC untuk MyGOSSCon 24 WebDev Contest

[nuhaa]

dealine dah extend ke 20 oct



Nuhaa All Bakry / cawanpink
http://cawanpink.net
http://fosschix.my


2009/10/8 Raja Iskandar Shah 

> masih boleh masuk part of the team. sebab interface design kira 20% dari
> markah.
>
>
>
> 2009/10/8 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini 
>
> belum cukup ilmu la nak buat web development framework..
>> kalau jadi pom-pom boy kat belakang boleh la [?]
>>
>> 2009/10/8 Mohd Rizal Mohd Shahari 
>>
>>
>>> Saya akan buat 1 team tu. Maaf lambat reply sbb jarang tgk e-mel sejak
>>> asyik ulang alik dari hospital ni.
>>>
>>> Ada sesiapa yg nak masuk team ni sila bagi nama.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/10/8 nuhaa :
>>> > kita takdak main rasuah2 ye
>>> >
>>> > osdc takde wakil ke?? at least 2 org, max 5 org
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Nuhaa All Bakry / cawanpink
>>> > http://cawanpink.net
>>> > http://fosschix.my
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 2009/10/8 Raja Iskandar Shah 
>>> >>
>>> >> ikut perisikan saya cik cawanpink.net adalah salah sorang ajk
>>> >> pertandingan. rasanya boh pun mungkin terlibat sama.
>>> >>
>>> >> tapi saya ingin ingatkan rasuah dalam bentuk hadiah / saguhati / salah
>>> >> guna kuasa adalah salah dari segi undang2 ;-)
>>> >>
>>> >> kalau tanya team krimnet - depa nak makan free aje. hahahaha.
>>> love
>>> >> of coding + free food ;-)
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> 2009/10/8 Mohammad Sallehuddin Kodri 
>>> >>>
>>> >>> cayalah. harap2 bos Raja n geng boleh menang. kalo osdc.my ader team
>>> pun
>>> >>> leh menang gak. kira bolot ar semua.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> >>> On 2009 Okt 8, at 10:47 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah <
>>> rajaiskand...@gmail.com>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> saya pun harap ada team osdc.my sendiri. no worries about menang atau
>>> >>> kalah atau malu - itu semua adat permainan (man utd fc pun kalah
>>> juga). yang
>>> >>> penting turun gelanggang.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> krimnet memang akan hantar team sendiri dan sekarang ini kami standby
>>> >>> kalau perlu jadi wakil bersama osdc.my. in case osdc.my takde wakil
>>> sendiri.
>>> >>> kalau nak letak osdc.my-krimnet pun boleh jugak. pasal krimnet pun
>>> asalnya
>>> >>> dari kelab remaja jugak.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 2009/10/8 mohd fenris 
>>> 
>>>  just my 2 cent...
>>>  kenapa nak ade *-osdc.my ? kan ke lebih afdal @ bagus kalau pakai
>>> nama
>>>  kumpulan sayabanggadengannamakumpulansaya (sbg cth) . so kalau
>>> menang ke
>>>  kalah ker .. saguhati ker .. x de la nak tunding jari sana sini ...
>>>  sy yakin ada team dari osdc.my , betul x rakan2?
>>> 
>>>  On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah
>>>   wrote:
>>> >
>>> > topic akan diberikan masa mula competition day tu - tak aci lah
>>> kalau
>>> > kasi awal2
>>> >
>>> > cik cawanpink.net lebih arif
>>> >
>>> > bos, kalau takde team osdc.my, boleh ke kami guna nama
>>> krimnet-osdc.my
>>> > ? closing date ahad 11 oct 2009. kami dah nak kena submit esok
>>> pagi. winning
>>> > boleh split 50/50. need to know by 8am esok.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:45 PM, A Johan 
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> so apa format competition ni? kita boleh buat apa2 webapp ke masa
>>> >> competition day tu dia bagi keyword/topic lps tu kita create the
>>> webapp kat
>>> >> situ jugak?
>>> >>
>>> >> aku nak pergi rendam tangan dalam ais untuk menaip dgn lebih laju
>>> masa
>>> >> competition karang...
>>> >>
>>> >> aj
>>> >>
>>> >> 2009/10/7 Mohd Hidzuan 
>>> >>>
>>> >>> bro boleh wakil OSDC pulak.. lawan tetap lawan,, hehehe
>>> >>> ...
>>> >>> To follow the path, look to the master,
>>> >>> follow the master, walk with the master,
>>> >>> see through the master, become the master.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Selasih Net Enterprise
>>> >>> "we never sleep, we just park our head"
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Sent from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 2009/10/7 A Johan 
>>> 
>>>  wah ni mcm menarik je ni. aku nak join the team tapi subject to
>>> tak
>>>  kena hantar mana2 oleh kompeni. boleh kira ke mcm tu?
>>> 
>>>  aj
>>> 
>>>  2009/10/7 Harisfazillah Jamel 
>>> >
>>> > OK nohal... Nanti kita tengokkan saper lagi boleh masuk team.
>>> >
>>> > 2009/10/7 Mohd Hidzuan :
>>> > > sama bro.. sebab dia 24 jam..
>>> >
>>> >
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  --
>>> 
>>>  Samuel Goldwyn  - "I'm willing to admit that I may not always be
>>>  right, but I am never wrong."
>>> 
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >>
>>> >> Joan Crawford  - "I, Joan Crawford, I believe in the dollar.
>>> >> Everything I earn, I spend."
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> 

[osdcmy-public] Re: Wakil OSDC untuk MyGOSSCon 24 WebDev Contest

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

masih boleh masuk part of the team. sebab interface design kira 20% dari
markah.



2009/10/8 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini 

> belum cukup ilmu la nak buat web development framework..
> kalau jadi pom-pom boy kat belakang boleh la [?]
>
> 2009/10/8 Mohd Rizal Mohd Shahari 
>
>
>> Saya akan buat 1 team tu. Maaf lambat reply sbb jarang tgk e-mel sejak
>> asyik ulang alik dari hospital ni.
>>
>> Ada sesiapa yg nak masuk team ni sila bagi nama.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/10/8 nuhaa :
>> > kita takdak main rasuah2 ye
>> >
>> > osdc takde wakil ke?? at least 2 org, max 5 org
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Nuhaa All Bakry / cawanpink
>> > http://cawanpink.net
>> > http://fosschix.my
>> >
>> >
>> > 2009/10/8 Raja Iskandar Shah 
>> >>
>> >> ikut perisikan saya cik cawanpink.net adalah salah sorang ajk
>> >> pertandingan. rasanya boh pun mungkin terlibat sama.
>> >>
>> >> tapi saya ingin ingatkan rasuah dalam bentuk hadiah / saguhati / salah
>> >> guna kuasa adalah salah dari segi undang2 ;-)
>> >>
>> >> kalau tanya team krimnet - depa nak makan free aje. hahahaha.
>> love
>> >> of coding + free food ;-)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2009/10/8 Mohammad Sallehuddin Kodri 
>> >>>
>> >>> cayalah. harap2 bos Raja n geng boleh menang. kalo osdc.my ader team
>> pun
>> >>> leh menang gak. kira bolot ar semua.
>> >>>
>> >>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>> On 2009 Okt 8, at 10:47 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah <
>> rajaiskand...@gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> saya pun harap ada team osdc.my sendiri. no worries about menang atau
>> >>> kalah atau malu - itu semua adat permainan (man utd fc pun kalah
>> juga). yang
>> >>> penting turun gelanggang.
>> >>>
>> >>> krimnet memang akan hantar team sendiri dan sekarang ini kami standby
>> >>> kalau perlu jadi wakil bersama osdc.my. in case osdc.my takde wakil
>> sendiri.
>> >>> kalau nak letak osdc.my-krimnet pun boleh jugak. pasal krimnet pun
>> asalnya
>> >>> dari kelab remaja jugak.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> 2009/10/8 mohd fenris 
>> 
>>  just my 2 cent...
>>  kenapa nak ade *-osdc.my ? kan ke lebih afdal @ bagus kalau pakai
>> nama
>>  kumpulan sayabanggadengannamakumpulansaya (sbg cth) . so kalau menang
>> ke
>>  kalah ker .. saguhati ker .. x de la nak tunding jari sana sini ...
>>  sy yakin ada team dari osdc.my , betul x rakan2?
>> 
>>  On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah
>>   wrote:
>> >
>> > topic akan diberikan masa mula competition day tu - tak aci lah
>> kalau
>> > kasi awal2
>> >
>> > cik cawanpink.net lebih arif
>> >
>> > bos, kalau takde team osdc.my, boleh ke kami guna nama
>> krimnet-osdc.my
>> > ? closing date ahad 11 oct 2009. kami dah nak kena submit esok pagi.
>> winning
>> > boleh split 50/50. need to know by 8am esok.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:45 PM, A Johan  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> so apa format competition ni? kita boleh buat apa2 webapp ke masa
>> >> competition day tu dia bagi keyword/topic lps tu kita create the
>> webapp kat
>> >> situ jugak?
>> >>
>> >> aku nak pergi rendam tangan dalam ais untuk menaip dgn lebih laju
>> masa
>> >> competition karang...
>> >>
>> >> aj
>> >>
>> >> 2009/10/7 Mohd Hidzuan 
>> >>>
>> >>> bro boleh wakil OSDC pulak.. lawan tetap lawan,, hehehe
>> >>> ...
>> >>> To follow the path, look to the master,
>> >>> follow the master, walk with the master,
>> >>> see through the master, become the master.
>> >>>
>> >>> Selasih Net Enterprise
>> >>> "we never sleep, we just park our head"
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Sent from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> 2009/10/7 A Johan 
>> 
>>  wah ni mcm menarik je ni. aku nak join the team tapi subject to
>> tak
>>  kena hantar mana2 oleh kompeni. boleh kira ke mcm tu?
>> 
>>  aj
>> 
>>  2009/10/7 Harisfazillah Jamel 
>> >
>> > OK nohal... Nanti kita tengokkan saper lagi boleh masuk team.
>> >
>> > 2009/10/7 Mohd Hidzuan :
>> > > sama bro.. sebab dia 24 jam..
>> >
>> >
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  --
>> 
>>  Samuel Goldwyn  - "I'm willing to admit that I may not always be
>>  right, but I am never wrong."
>> 
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> Joan Crawford  - "I, Joan Crawford, I believe in the dollar.
>> >> Everything I earn, I spend."
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
>

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[osdcmy-public] Re: 2 idea setelah masuk linux varsiti

[JaZrI]

wah2, rancangan yang menarik, kita open sket la kat malaysia ni pasal
kepentingan keselamatan komoputer kan,
tu yang jadi masuk dalam paper tu, diorang anggap macam pakar it lagi2
dalam keselamatan komputer, huhu


2009/10/8 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini :
> yup..agree with your point..
>
> but the government should know this kind of people are the chosen one to
> help defend our data..
> rather than punish them or throw them into the jail..
>
> like Obi-Wan said to Anakin, "you are the chosen one" (I'm Star Wars Addict)
>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Boh Yap  wrote:
>>
>> hi,
>>
>> the "Open Hacking" idea is really interesting and will draw a lot of
>> attention, so I'll like to add a few thoughts, from different
>> angles...
>>
>> As a pure publicity exercise its great, but whether it will benefit
>> FOSS, there is pro & cons.
>>
>> 1. We will attract people, but the right ppl?
>>
>> Yes, quite a few Uni 'kids' I talk to say they wanna be hackers (or
>> 'security experts'), due to the 'glory' and common media perception...
>>
>> But the real hackers know, it takes hard work, experience and real
>> knowledge.
>>
>> What will happen is you will attract a lot of 'wannabe hackers', to
>> your 'hacking school'. You/We'll be conducting a lot of classes, but
>> soon as they find out they have to read thick technical manuals
>> they'll give up. From my experiance in teaching not only programming,
>> but other skills that  require real dedication, hard work & sacrifice,
>> the drop rate is 90% if you're lucky.
>>
>> Or they become (or we teach them to be) 'script kiddies', trawl the
>> 'net for exploits and tools other have written and use those. So we
>> are back to square one, just being 'Users' and not 'Producers'. Come
>> on, guys (who really know the stuff) with FOSS tools like Metasploit,
>> Nessus, etc...  it ain't difficult.
>>
>>
>> 2. We end up creating a bunch of ppl that controls a botnet, and
>> become real 'crackers'!
>>
>> With some knowledge, and the tools are out there, a bunch of hackers
>> can start building a botnet, and then then start to use this for
>> really bad purposes. This is turning to the 'darkside' - do we want to
>> create that situation?
>>
>>
>> Now for the positive points:
>>
>> 3. All the security hacks will show the weakness of Proprietary SW (PSW),
>>   especially MS.
>>
>> There's a lot of MS based servers (and some Linux one's prob) that
>> have not been patched with the latest security upgrades (dare I guess
>> many government sites?). Exploiting these shouldn't be too diffcult.
>>
>> Showing the public how vulnerable PSW is may swing support towards FOSS!
>>
>>
>> 4. Demo of Security attacks should also target clients/desk/lap tops,
>> not only servers.
>>
>> Fact is, many Windoze clients get easily compromised, via email and
>> web and become bots, which are then used for spamming etc. I get spam
>> from idiots whose computers have been compromised, but still don't
>> seem do anything about it!
>>
>> If hacks can be done to show how vulnerable the average client is,
>> then it will serve to educate the public, strike a blow against the
>> botnets, and maybe get users to switch to a 'safer' OS.
>>
>> let the flames begin ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/10/8 lutfi raffi :
>> > Template lebih kurang amcam ni:
>> >
>> > http://www.malaysiakini.tv/video/17876/bns-postal-votes-in-danger-.html
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 2009/10/8 lutfi raffi 
>> >>
>> >> @wan: masih berteguh untuk buat macam malaysia kini sebab nampak lebih
>> >> kemas dan profesional...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2009/10/8 red1 
>> >>>
>> >>> Mohd Rizal Mohd Shahari wrote:
>> >>> > WOW!... Idea bernas ni. Tp live hacking tu x kantoi ke nnt?
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>>  i bincang with Syazwan because we want to give ideas that can pull
>> >>> the
>> >>> crowds and layppl in the streets. If you interbiu about FOSS org
>> >>> mengantuk je. Student pun tanak datang dengar. But if u say, "u going
>> >>> to
>> >>> show how to hack into the universiti, silap2 pak guard dengan pembasuh
>> >>> jamban pun nak masuk dengar.
>> >>>
>> >>> Of course, kene minta kebenaran memang itu syarat tetap. Lepas tu
>> >>> boleh
>> >>> bagi mereka masa utk bersiap dan kita rancang serangan ke atas mereka.
>> >>> Apabila dapat tembus, silap2 dapat hadiah dari mereka suruh tutup
>> >>> mulut
>> >>> tentang kekantoian sistem mereka. Atau hacker kita diambik sebagai
>> >>> pakar-perunding luar. Macam ni akan lebih memasyurkan HACKERM sehingga
>> >>> luar negara, kerana yang saya tahu tiada lagi program TV yang
>> >>> menunjukkan keje2 mcm ni.
>> >>>
>> >>> So, berapa hacker kita ade ni? Takkan Syazwan seorang je? Cmon.. lets
>> >>> assemble 3 platoon elit komando siber kita!
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> #---
>> regds,
>>
>> Boh Heong, Yap
>>
>>
>
>
> >
>

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[osdcmy-public] Re: Penguin Masuk Kampung

[Shukri Jahari]

Najah: gr8... jgn lupa bawak khemah
Raja: no problem, more to come, no worries

2009/10/8 Raja Iskandar Shah 

> berbanyak maaf sebab tak dapat attend weekend tu.
>
>
>
>
>
> 2009/10/8 Najah 
>
> i'm in.
>>
>> 2009/10/7 Shukri Jahari 
>>
>>> ada, kambing kuang pon boleh... hahaha
>>>
>>> 2009/10/7 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini 
>>>
>>> saya on..
 dengan syarat ade penguin panggang :p


 2009/10/7 Shukri Jahari 

> Join, jgn tak join. Pegi siapkan cepat proposal tu... hehehe
>
> 2009/10/7 lutfi raffi 
>
> Wow.. macam menarik.. saya nak join tapi bergantung kepada research
>> proposal.. setel je saya kan join...
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/10/7 Shukri Jahari 
>>
>>> AJ.
>>>
>>> Terima kasih juta2. Bagitau je brp banyak dan kat mana nak kutip.
>>> InsyaAllah akau akan carik cara nak angkut hadiah2 tu. Terima kasih 
>>> skali
>>> lagi.
>>>
>>> 2009/10/7 A Johan 
>>>
>>> bro shukri

 aku tak dapat join sbb kena pergi outstation untuk kerja dari 16 -
 23. tapi next week aku akan collect computer2 lama untuk di hadiahkan 
 ke
 rumah anak yatim n miskin ulu gadong (raymug). jumlah akhir belum 
 dapat di
 tentukan.

 mcm mana nak pass ni?

 aj

 2009/10/7 Shukri Jahari 

 Salam sejahtera semua.
>
> Program Penguin Masuk Kampung akan diadakan pada 17 - 18 Oktober
> 2009 di Balai Raya Kg. Gadong, Kota, Rembau, Negeri Sembilan. Program 
> ini
> adalah kempen kesedaran dan promosi FOSS di Malaysia oleh OSDC.my. 
> Tarikh
> ini dicadangkan untuk mengambil kesempatan daripada kehadiran 
> pengunjung
> yang dijangkakan hampir 10K orang (setakat yang diberitahu oleh Ketua
> Kampung) bersempena Majlis Sambutan Hari Raya ahli parlimen Rembau, 
> Khairy
> Jamaluddin.
>
> Saya ingin menjemput wakil2 OSDC.my yang berkelapangan untuk hadir
> memeriahkan program ini. Booth pameran FOSS akan disediakan oleh pihak
> penganjur (pihak JKKK). Kita diberi kebenaran untuk menjalan aktiviti
> seperti install fest dan perkara ini sudah dihebohkan kepada pihak 
> JKKK.
>
> Antara aktiviti2 yang dicadangkan pada 17/10/2009, adalah:
>
> 1. Siang hari,  riadhah OSDC.my - bersantai di Gunung Datuk (mandi
> air terjun)
> 2. Malam hari, Kenduri Penguin - gotong royong bersama org2 kampung
> utk majlis esok harinya.
>
> Penginapan disediakan:
>
> 1. Villa Anak Yatim Ulu Gadong (ditaja oleh Jemaah Pengurus
> Kebajikan Anak2 Yatim/Miskin Ulu Gadong)
> 2. Homestay2 terdekat (tidak ditaja pihak berkenaan)
>
> Penyertaan adalah dibuka kepada semua yg berminat. Reply aja kat
> post ni kalau berminat. Kalau ramai sgt yang nak sertai, akan 
> disediakan
> borang.
>
> Terima kasih.
>
> --
> Shukri Jahari
>
> Ulu Gadong Project
> http://ulugadong.org
> http://identi.ca/jshukri
>
>
>


 --

 Jonathan 
 Swift 
 - "May you live every day of your life."


>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Shukri Jahari
>>>
>>> Ulu Gadong Project
>>> http://ulugadong.org
>>> http://identi.ca/jshukri
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Shukri Jahari
>
> Ulu Gadong Project
> http://ulugadong.org
> http://identi.ca/jshukri
>
>
>



>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Shukri Jahari
>>>
>>> Ulu Gadong Project
>>> http://ulugadong.org
>>> http://identi.ca/jshukri
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> "The most important thing is that you have to be sincere and trustworthy
>> in doing business - Tan Sri William Cheng, Lion Group Chairman & CEO"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
>


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[osdcmy-public] Re: 2 idea setelah masuk linux varsiti

[Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini]

yup..agree with your point..

but the government should know this kind of people are the chosen one to
help defend our data..
rather than punish them or throw them into the jail..

like Obi-Wan said to Anakin, "you are the chosen one" (I'm Star Wars Addict)

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Boh Yap  wrote:

>
> hi,
>
> the "Open Hacking" idea is really interesting and will draw a lot of
> attention, so I'll like to add a few thoughts, from different
> angles...
>
> As a pure publicity exercise its great, but whether it will benefit
> FOSS, there is pro & cons.
>
> 1. We will attract people, but the right ppl?
>
> Yes, quite a few Uni 'kids' I talk to say they wanna be hackers (or
> 'security experts'), due to the 'glory' and common media perception...
>
> But the real hackers know, it takes hard work, experience and real
> knowledge.
>
> What will happen is you will attract a lot of 'wannabe hackers', to
> your 'hacking school'. You/We'll be conducting a lot of classes, but
> soon as they find out they have to read thick technical manuals
> they'll give up. From my experiance in teaching not only programming,
> but other skills that  require real dedication, hard work & sacrifice,
> the drop rate is 90% if you're lucky.
>
> Or they become (or we teach them to be) 'script kiddies', trawl the
> 'net for exploits and tools other have written and use those. So we
> are back to square one, just being 'Users' and not 'Producers'. Come
> on, guys (who really know the stuff) with FOSS tools like Metasploit,
> Nessus, etc...  it ain't difficult.
>
>
> 2. We end up creating a bunch of ppl that controls a botnet, and
> become real 'crackers'!
>
> With some knowledge, and the tools are out there, a bunch of hackers
> can start building a botnet, and then then start to use this for
> really bad purposes. This is turning to the 'darkside' - do we want to
> create that situation?
>
>
> Now for the positive points:
>
> 3. All the security hacks will show the weakness of Proprietary SW (PSW),
>   especially MS.
>
> There's a lot of MS based servers (and some Linux one's prob) that
> have not been patched with the latest security upgrades (dare I guess
> many government sites?). Exploiting these shouldn't be too diffcult.
>
> Showing the public how vulnerable PSW is may swing support towards FOSS!
>
>
> 4. Demo of Security attacks should also target clients/desk/lap tops,
> not only servers.
>
> Fact is, many Windoze clients get easily compromised, via email and
> web and become bots, which are then used for spamming etc. I get spam
> from idiots whose computers have been compromised, but still don't
> seem do anything about it!
>
> If hacks can be done to show how vulnerable the average client is,
> then it will serve to educate the public, strike a blow against the
> botnets, and maybe get users to switch to a 'safer' OS.
>
> let the flames begin ;-)
>
>
>
>
> 2009/10/8 lutfi raffi :
> > Template lebih kurang amcam ni:
> >
> > http://www.malaysiakini.tv/video/17876/bns-postal-votes-in-danger-.html
> >
> >
> >
> > 2009/10/8 lutfi raffi 
> >>
> >> @wan: masih berteguh untuk buat macam malaysia kini sebab nampak lebih
> >> kemas dan profesional...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2009/10/8 red1 
> >>>
> >>> Mohd Rizal Mohd Shahari wrote:
> >>> > WOW!... Idea bernas ni. Tp live hacking tu x kantoi ke nnt?
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>  i bincang with Syazwan because we want to give ideas that can pull the
> >>> crowds and layppl in the streets. If you interbiu about FOSS org
> >>> mengantuk je. Student pun tanak datang dengar. But if u say, "u going
> to
> >>> show how to hack into the universiti, silap2 pak guard dengan pembasuh
> >>> jamban pun nak masuk dengar.
> >>>
> >>> Of course, kene minta kebenaran memang itu syarat tetap. Lepas tu boleh
> >>> bagi mereka masa utk bersiap dan kita rancang serangan ke atas mereka.
> >>> Apabila dapat tembus, silap2 dapat hadiah dari mereka suruh tutup mulut
> >>> tentang kekantoian sistem mereka. Atau hacker kita diambik sebagai
> >>> pakar-perunding luar. Macam ni akan lebih memasyurkan HACKERM sehingga
> >>> luar negara, kerana yang saya tahu tiada lagi program TV yang
> >>> menunjukkan keje2 mcm ni.
> >>>
> >>> So, berapa hacker kita ade ni? Takkan Syazwan seorang je? Cmon.. lets
> >>> assemble 3 platoon elit komando siber kita!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> #---
> regds,
>
> Boh Heong, Yap
>
> >
>

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[osdcmy-public] Re: 2 idea setelah masuk linux varsiti

[lutfi raffi]

tiba-tiba teringat cerita die hard 4.0.




On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 4:54 AM, Boh Yap  wrote:

>
> hi,
>
> the "Open Hacking" idea is really interesting and will draw a lot of
> attention, so I'll like to add a few thoughts, from different
> angles...
>
> As a pure publicity exercise its great, but whether it will benefit
> FOSS, there is pro & cons.
>
> 1. We will attract people, but the right ppl?
>
> Yes, quite a few Uni 'kids' I talk to say they wanna be hackers (or
> 'security experts'), due to the 'glory' and common media perception...
>
> But the real hackers know, it takes hard work, experience and real
> knowledge.
>
> What will happen is you will attract a lot of 'wannabe hackers', to
> your 'hacking school'. You/We'll be conducting a lot of classes, but
> soon as they find out they have to read thick technical manuals
> they'll give up. From my experiance in teaching not only programming,
> but other skills that  require real dedication, hard work & sacrifice,
> the drop rate is 90% if you're lucky.
>
> Or they become (or we teach them to be) 'script kiddies', trawl the
> 'net for exploits and tools other have written and use those. So we
> are back to square one, just being 'Users' and not 'Producers'. Come
> on, guys (who really know the stuff) with FOSS tools like Metasploit,
> Nessus, etc...  it ain't difficult.
>
>
> 2. We end up creating a bunch of ppl that controls a botnet, and
> become real 'crackers'!
>
> With some knowledge, and the tools are out there, a bunch of hackers
> can start building a botnet, and then then start to use this for
> really bad purposes. This is turning to the 'darkside' - do we want to
> create that situation?
>
>
> Now for the positive points:
>
> 3. All the security hacks will show the weakness of Proprietary SW (PSW),
>   especially MS.
>
> There's a lot of MS based servers (and some Linux one's prob) that
> have not been patched with the latest security upgrades (dare I guess
> many government sites?). Exploiting these shouldn't be too diffcult.
>
> Showing the public how vulnerable PSW is may swing support towards FOSS!
>
>
> 4. Demo of Security attacks should also target clients/desk/lap tops,
> not only servers.
>
> Fact is, many Windoze clients get easily compromised, via email and
> web and become bots, which are then used for spamming etc. I get spam
> from idiots whose computers have been compromised, but still don't
> seem do anything about it!
>
> If hacks can be done to show how vulnerable the average client is,
> then it will serve to educate the public, strike a blow against the
> botnets, and maybe get users to switch to a 'safer' OS.
>
> let the flames begin ;-)
>
>
>
>
> 2009/10/8 lutfi raffi :
> > Template lebih kurang amcam ni:
> >
> > http://www.malaysiakini.tv/video/17876/bns-postal-votes-in-danger-.html
> >
> >
> >
> > 2009/10/8 lutfi raffi 
> >>
> >> @wan: masih berteguh untuk buat macam malaysia kini sebab nampak lebih
> >> kemas dan profesional...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2009/10/8 red1 
> >>>
> >>> Mohd Rizal Mohd Shahari wrote:
> >>> > WOW!... Idea bernas ni. Tp live hacking tu x kantoi ke nnt?
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>  i bincang with Syazwan because we want to give ideas that can pull the
> >>> crowds and layppl in the streets. If you interbiu about FOSS org
> >>> mengantuk je. Student pun tanak datang dengar. But if u say, "u going
> to
> >>> show how to hack into the universiti, silap2 pak guard dengan pembasuh
> >>> jamban pun nak masuk dengar.
> >>>
> >>> Of course, kene minta kebenaran memang itu syarat tetap. Lepas tu boleh
> >>> bagi mereka masa utk bersiap dan kita rancang serangan ke atas mereka.
> >>> Apabila dapat tembus, silap2 dapat hadiah dari mereka suruh tutup mulut
> >>> tentang kekantoian sistem mereka. Atau hacker kita diambik sebagai
> >>> pakar-perunding luar. Macam ni akan lebih memasyurkan HACKERM sehingga
> >>> luar negara, kerana yang saya tahu tiada lagi program TV yang
> >>> menunjukkan keje2 mcm ni.
> >>>
> >>> So, berapa hacker kita ade ni? Takkan Syazwan seorang je? Cmon.. lets
> >>> assemble 3 platoon elit komando siber kita!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> #---
> regds,
>
> Boh Heong, Yap
>
> >
>

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[osdcmy-public] Re: About Funding FOSS

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

red1

let me have a go at the icon grant application - i promised rafe to submit
esok for two projects

i will update you tomorrow at oscc

anyone else yg ada experience in this icon grant - saya dengar ada org
melaka dah dapat dah ;-)





On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 2:58 PM, red1  wrote:

>  Ana mau tanam semangat bahawa apa perjuangan ini sebenarnya. Jika mau cari
> makan, kahwin awal, dan beli kereta, lupakan perjuangan (yg tidak sia-sia)
> ini. Memang ini perjuangan murni, tetapi jangan sampai ada tentera kita yang
> tengah di medan perang boleh merungut, "laparrrnyaaa'. Sungguh sedih apabila
> hambo dengar rungutan sedemikian.
>
> Seperti kisah2 hidup saya tulis dalam http://padi-malaysia.blogspot.com/sejak 
> tahun lepas. Ia perjuangan jauh dan lama. Saya pilih jalan ini kerana
> tidak dapat elak dari kebenaran dan pengakuan tentang kebenaran.
>
> Begitu juga sabil FOSS ini. Bukan minta untuk menjadi pejuang tetapi
> terjerumus di dalamnya. Mahu keluar sudah macam lambat. Macam Rambo sudah
> landing kat tengah sawah padi berkumpuh di Myanmar mau pula fikirkan
> selamat?
>
> Innovation and creativity means we must be willing to learn from mistakes
> and change according to the circumstance. The way we Malaysians do things
> not all are right. Some of it must be mistakes. Then tell me how come asyik
> Stanford produce dotcom billionaires and we not a single one? Or secebis of
> anyone?
>
> Look at Japan. When Emperor Meiji was visited by Comodore Perry with huge
> warships in the 1850s, the japanese came out with the 100 year plan, to send
> NOT scholars but translators to learn foreign languages and then bring the
> manuals back to Japan to translate for their masses. They achieved a
> startling armada that can defeat a superpower the first time ever in modern
> times.
>
> If Japanese can think like that in 1850s, is it so difficult for us to
> change our thinking in 2010s?
>
> Like i said Lutfi at UTM, it is up to the VC there. Samada nak atau tidak.
> If he nak ke Harvard, then he goes to Harvard, but what can Harvard teach
> you? UTM to be no.1 like Harvard? Think again.
>
> If he wants to come home and believe in our shorty little asians, then i
> believe he can do it. I will be willing to serve him. Many of us will.
>
> So just give me one blady university that truly needs our help. That has
> ownership from the top. That the VC says, "Yes! Lets do it and beat the crap
> out of the west!" but no, instead they still agung-agungkan the west. Like i
> said, such are acts of treason and ought to be shot by our malaysian Rambo.
>
> lutfi raffi wrote:
>
> Hoho.. I'm really really sorry red1.. terkena shotgun. aduh
> InsyaAllah akan diusahakan sebaik-baiknya selepas ini
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 1:44 AM, red1  wrote:
>
>>
>> Seriously, i do not think that FOSS is viable as a busines. Not yet.
>> There is more to be done at the educational and spiritual level. Many
>> people still do not believe in it. Many ppl still abuse it. They want
>> free lunch not freedom.
>>
>> So i think the funding for FOSS cannot be along those lines of asking
>> for proof of business viability. It should ask for passion and activism
>> that is proven. Many of us are willing to go and sing the FOSS song, but
>> as freelancers on kuda kepang, i m not sure they can do so for long. At
>> least i am already unable to answer beyond FOSS.my, MyGoScon, UTP, which
>> all do not pay for my time. The vendors can send their speakers cos they
>> are paid.
>>
>> Is there a fund to support evangelism work? That is not paid by
>> propreitary vendors? If not, the community should figure out a singular
>> mechanism to arm themselves before stepping one foot out again into the
>> battlefield. No use going out, getting shot and then cry for your mummies.
>>
>> Live for nothing,
>> or Die for Something.
>
>
>
> >
>

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[osdcmy-public] Re: 2 idea setelah masuk linux varsiti

[Boh Yap]

hi,

the "Open Hacking" idea is really interesting and will draw a lot of
attention, so I'll like to add a few thoughts, from different
angles...

As a pure publicity exercise its great, but whether it will benefit
FOSS, there is pro & cons.

1. We will attract people, but the right ppl?

Yes, quite a few Uni 'kids' I talk to say they wanna be hackers (or
'security experts'), due to the 'glory' and common media perception...

But the real hackers know, it takes hard work, experience and real knowledge.

What will happen is you will attract a lot of 'wannabe hackers', to
your 'hacking school'. You/We'll be conducting a lot of classes, but
soon as they find out they have to read thick technical manuals
they'll give up. From my experiance in teaching not only programming,
but other skills that  require real dedication, hard work & sacrifice,
the drop rate is 90% if you're lucky.

Or they become (or we teach them to be) 'script kiddies', trawl the
'net for exploits and tools other have written and use those. So we
are back to square one, just being 'Users' and not 'Producers'. Come
on, guys (who really know the stuff) with FOSS tools like Metasploit,
Nessus, etc...  it ain't difficult.


2. We end up creating a bunch of ppl that controls a botnet, and
become real 'crackers'!

With some knowledge, and the tools are out there, a bunch of hackers
can start building a botnet, and then then start to use this for
really bad purposes. This is turning to the 'darkside' - do we want to
create that situation?


Now for the positive points:

3. All the security hacks will show the weakness of Proprietary SW (PSW),
   especially MS.

There's a lot of MS based servers (and some Linux one's prob) that
have not been patched with the latest security upgrades (dare I guess
many government sites?). Exploiting these shouldn't be too diffcult.

Showing the public how vulnerable PSW is may swing support towards FOSS!


4. Demo of Security attacks should also target clients/desk/lap tops,
not only servers.

Fact is, many Windoze clients get easily compromised, via email and
web and become bots, which are then used for spamming etc. I get spam
from idiots whose computers have been compromised, but still don't
seem do anything about it!

If hacks can be done to show how vulnerable the average client is,
then it will serve to educate the public, strike a blow against the
botnets, and maybe get users to switch to a 'safer' OS.

let the flames begin ;-)




2009/10/8 lutfi raffi :
> Template lebih kurang amcam ni:
>
> http://www.malaysiakini.tv/video/17876/bns-postal-votes-in-danger-.html
>
>
>
> 2009/10/8 lutfi raffi 
>>
>> @wan: masih berteguh untuk buat macam malaysia kini sebab nampak lebih
>> kemas dan profesional...
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/10/8 red1 
>>>
>>> Mohd Rizal Mohd Shahari wrote:
>>> > WOW!... Idea bernas ni. Tp live hacking tu x kantoi ke nnt?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  i bincang with Syazwan because we want to give ideas that can pull the
>>> crowds and layppl in the streets. If you interbiu about FOSS org
>>> mengantuk je. Student pun tanak datang dengar. But if u say, "u going to
>>> show how to hack into the universiti, silap2 pak guard dengan pembasuh
>>> jamban pun nak masuk dengar.
>>>
>>> Of course, kene minta kebenaran memang itu syarat tetap. Lepas tu boleh
>>> bagi mereka masa utk bersiap dan kita rancang serangan ke atas mereka.
>>> Apabila dapat tembus, silap2 dapat hadiah dari mereka suruh tutup mulut
>>> tentang kekantoian sistem mereka. Atau hacker kita diambik sebagai
>>> pakar-perunding luar. Macam ni akan lebih memasyurkan HACKERM sehingga
>>> luar negara, kerana yang saya tahu tiada lagi program TV yang
>>> menunjukkan keje2 mcm ni.
>>>
>>> So, berapa hacker kita ade ni? Takkan Syazwan seorang je? Cmon.. lets
>>> assemble 3 platoon elit komando siber kita!
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> >
>



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[osdcmy-public] Re: 2 idea setelah masuk linux varsiti

[Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini]

tu la masalah syarikat Malaysia ni..
nak jimat agak-agak laa..

jangan sampai server anda dihack oleh team hacking HACKERM sudah..

2009/10/8 Hasanuddin Abu Bakar 

> Pusat Training Hackers :)
>
>
> http://www.hmetro.com.my/Current_News/myMetro/Wednesday/itMetro/20091007110152/Article/index_html
>
>
>
>
> Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
> ---
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>
> 2009/10/8 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini 
>
>> 2009/10/8 Hasanuddin Abu Bakar 
>>
>>> Web macam ni boleh tahan gak http://www.hackthissite.org
>>>
>>> dah macam pusat training hackers je..
>> hehe :)
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
>>> ---
>>> Ubuntu embedded developer/tester
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut
>>>
>>> Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/10/8 lutfi raffi 
>>>
 hehehe.. cuma cadangan je wan...



 2009/10/8 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini 

>
> too dull laa..
> kalau dah nama HACKEM tv mesti kena ganaz dan boleh menarik orang..
>
> On 10/8/09, lutfi raffi  wrote:
> > Template lebih kurang amcam ni:
> >
> >
> http://www.malaysiakini.tv/video/17876/bns-postal-votes-in-danger-.html
> >
> >
> >
> > 2009/10/8 lutfi raffi 
> >
> >> @wan: masih berteguh untuk buat macam malaysia kini sebab nampak
> lebih
> >> kemas dan profesional...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2009/10/8 red1 
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Mohd Rizal Mohd Shahari wrote:
> >>> > WOW!... Idea bernas ni. Tp live hacking tu x kantoi ke nnt?
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>  i bincang with Syazwan because we want to give ideas that can pull
> the
> >>> crowds and layppl in the streets. If you interbiu about FOSS org
> >>> mengantuk je. Student pun tanak datang dengar. But if u say, "u
> going to
> >>> show how to hack into the universiti, silap2 pak guard dengan
> pembasuh
> >>> jamban pun nak masuk dengar.
> >>>
> >>> Of course, kene minta kebenaran memang itu syarat tetap. Lepas tu
> boleh
> >>> bagi mereka masa utk bersiap dan kita rancang serangan ke atas
> mereka.
> >>> Apabila dapat tembus, silap2 dapat hadiah dari mereka suruh tutup
> mulut
> >>> tentang kekantoian sistem mereka. Atau hacker kita diambik sebagai
> >>> pakar-perunding luar. Macam ni akan lebih memasyurkan HACKERM
> sehingga
> >>> luar negara, kerana yang saya tahu tiada lagi program TV yang
> >>> menunjukkan keje2 mcm ni.
> >>>
> >>> So, berapa hacker kita ade ni? Takkan Syazwan seorang je? Cmon..
> lets
> >>> assemble 3 platoon elit komando siber kita!
> >>>
> >>> >>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> > >
> >
>
>
>



>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
>

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[osdcmy-public] Re: 2 idea setelah masuk linux varsiti

[Hasanuddin Abu Bakar]

Pusat Training Hackers :)

http://www.hmetro.com.my/Current_News/myMetro/Wednesday/itMetro/20091007110152/Article/index_html




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2009/10/8 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini 

> 2009/10/8 Hasanuddin Abu Bakar 
>
>> Web macam ni boleh tahan gak http://www.hackthissite.org
>>
>> dah macam pusat training hackers je..
> hehe :)
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
>> ---
>> Ubuntu embedded developer/tester
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut
>>
>> Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org
>>
>> PGP Public Key
>> http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD25748FC1754D52DAFA5EA8EC5A1B11965D43C5C&op=index
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/10/8 lutfi raffi 
>>
>>> hehehe.. cuma cadangan je wan...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/10/8 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini 
>>>

 too dull laa..
 kalau dah nama HACKEM tv mesti kena ganaz dan boleh menarik orang..

 On 10/8/09, lutfi raffi  wrote:
 > Template lebih kurang amcam ni:
 >
 >
 http://www.malaysiakini.tv/video/17876/bns-postal-votes-in-danger-.html
 >
 >
 >
 > 2009/10/8 lutfi raffi 
 >
 >> @wan: masih berteguh untuk buat macam malaysia kini sebab nampak
 lebih
 >> kemas dan profesional...
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> 2009/10/8 red1 
 >>
 >>>
 >>> Mohd Rizal Mohd Shahari wrote:
 >>> > WOW!... Idea bernas ni. Tp live hacking tu x kantoi ke nnt?
 >>> >
 >>> >
 >>> >
 >>>  i bincang with Syazwan because we want to give ideas that can pull
 the
 >>> crowds and layppl in the streets. If you interbiu about FOSS org
 >>> mengantuk je. Student pun tanak datang dengar. But if u say, "u
 going to
 >>> show how to hack into the universiti, silap2 pak guard dengan
 pembasuh
 >>> jamban pun nak masuk dengar.
 >>>
 >>> Of course, kene minta kebenaran memang itu syarat tetap. Lepas tu
 boleh
 >>> bagi mereka masa utk bersiap dan kita rancang serangan ke atas
 mereka.
 >>> Apabila dapat tembus, silap2 dapat hadiah dari mereka suruh tutup
 mulut
 >>> tentang kekantoian sistem mereka. Atau hacker kita diambik sebagai
 >>> pakar-perunding luar. Macam ni akan lebih memasyurkan HACKERM
 sehingga
 >>> luar negara, kerana yang saya tahu tiada lagi program TV yang
 >>> menunjukkan keje2 mcm ni.
 >>>
 >>> So, berapa hacker kita ade ni? Takkan Syazwan seorang je? Cmon..
 lets
 >>> assemble 3 platoon elit komando siber kita!
 >>>
 >>> >>
 >>>
 >>
 >
 > >
 >



>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
>

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[osdcmy-public] Re: 2 idea setelah masuk linux varsiti

[Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini]

2009/10/8 Hasanuddin Abu Bakar 

> Web macam ni boleh tahan gak http://www.hackthissite.org
>
> dah macam pusat training hackers je..
hehe :)

>
>
>
>
> Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
> ---
> Ubuntu embedded developer/tester
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut
>
> Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org
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>
>
>
>
> 2009/10/8 lutfi raffi 
>
>> hehehe.. cuma cadangan je wan...
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/10/8 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini 
>>
>>>
>>> too dull laa..
>>> kalau dah nama HACKEM tv mesti kena ganaz dan boleh menarik orang..
>>>
>>> On 10/8/09, lutfi raffi  wrote:
>>> > Template lebih kurang amcam ni:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://www.malaysiakini.tv/video/17876/bns-postal-votes-in-danger-.html
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 2009/10/8 lutfi raffi 
>>> >
>>> >> @wan: masih berteguh untuk buat macam malaysia kini sebab nampak lebih
>>> >> kemas dan profesional...
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> 2009/10/8 red1 
>>> >>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Mohd Rizal Mohd Shahari wrote:
>>> >>> > WOW!... Idea bernas ni. Tp live hacking tu x kantoi ke nnt?
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>>  i bincang with Syazwan because we want to give ideas that can pull
>>> the
>>> >>> crowds and layppl in the streets. If you interbiu about FOSS org
>>> >>> mengantuk je. Student pun tanak datang dengar. But if u say, "u going
>>> to
>>> >>> show how to hack into the universiti, silap2 pak guard dengan
>>> pembasuh
>>> >>> jamban pun nak masuk dengar.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Of course, kene minta kebenaran memang itu syarat tetap. Lepas tu
>>> boleh
>>> >>> bagi mereka masa utk bersiap dan kita rancang serangan ke atas
>>> mereka.
>>> >>> Apabila dapat tembus, silap2 dapat hadiah dari mereka suruh tutup
>>> mulut
>>> >>> tentang kekantoian sistem mereka. Atau hacker kita diambik sebagai
>>> >>> pakar-perunding luar. Macam ni akan lebih memasyurkan HACKERM
>>> sehingga
>>> >>> luar negara, kerana yang saya tahu tiada lagi program TV yang
>>> >>> menunjukkan keje2 mcm ni.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> So, berapa hacker kita ade ni? Takkan Syazwan seorang je? Cmon.. lets
>>> >>> assemble 3 platoon elit komando siber kita!
>>> >>>
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
>

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[osdcmy-public] Re: 2 idea setelah masuk linux varsiti

[Hasanuddin Abu Bakar]

Web macam ni boleh tahan gak http://www.hackthissite.org





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2009/10/8 lutfi raffi 

> hehehe.. cuma cadangan je wan...
>
>
>
> 2009/10/8 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini 
>
>>
>> too dull laa..
>> kalau dah nama HACKEM tv mesti kena ganaz dan boleh menarik orang..
>>
>> On 10/8/09, lutfi raffi  wrote:
>> > Template lebih kurang amcam ni:
>> >
>> > http://www.malaysiakini.tv/video/17876/bns-postal-votes-in-danger-.html
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 2009/10/8 lutfi raffi 
>> >
>> >> @wan: masih berteguh untuk buat macam malaysia kini sebab nampak lebih
>> >> kemas dan profesional...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2009/10/8 red1 
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> Mohd Rizal Mohd Shahari wrote:
>> >>> > WOW!... Idea bernas ni. Tp live hacking tu x kantoi ke nnt?
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>>  i bincang with Syazwan because we want to give ideas that can pull
>> the
>> >>> crowds and layppl in the streets. If you interbiu about FOSS org
>> >>> mengantuk je. Student pun tanak datang dengar. But if u say, "u going
>> to
>> >>> show how to hack into the universiti, silap2 pak guard dengan pembasuh
>> >>> jamban pun nak masuk dengar.
>> >>>
>> >>> Of course, kene minta kebenaran memang itu syarat tetap. Lepas tu
>> boleh
>> >>> bagi mereka masa utk bersiap dan kita rancang serangan ke atas mereka.
>> >>> Apabila dapat tembus, silap2 dapat hadiah dari mereka suruh tutup
>> mulut
>> >>> tentang kekantoian sistem mereka. Atau hacker kita diambik sebagai
>> >>> pakar-perunding luar. Macam ni akan lebih memasyurkan HACKERM sehingga
>> >>> luar negara, kerana yang saya tahu tiada lagi program TV yang
>> >>> menunjukkan keje2 mcm ni.
>> >>>
>> >>> So, berapa hacker kita ade ni? Takkan Syazwan seorang je? Cmon.. lets
>> >>> assemble 3 platoon elit komando siber kita!
>> >>>
>> >>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
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[osdcmy-public] Re: 2 idea setelah masuk linux varsiti

[lutfi raffi]

hehehe.. cuma cadangan je wan...



2009/10/8 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini 

>
> too dull laa..
> kalau dah nama HACKEM tv mesti kena ganaz dan boleh menarik orang..
>
> On 10/8/09, lutfi raffi  wrote:
> > Template lebih kurang amcam ni:
> >
> > http://www.malaysiakini.tv/video/17876/bns-postal-votes-in-danger-.html
> >
> >
> >
> > 2009/10/8 lutfi raffi 
> >
> >> @wan: masih berteguh untuk buat macam malaysia kini sebab nampak lebih
> >> kemas dan profesional...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2009/10/8 red1 
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Mohd Rizal Mohd Shahari wrote:
> >>> > WOW!... Idea bernas ni. Tp live hacking tu x kantoi ke nnt?
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>  i bincang with Syazwan because we want to give ideas that can pull the
> >>> crowds and layppl in the streets. If you interbiu about FOSS org
> >>> mengantuk je. Student pun tanak datang dengar. But if u say, "u going
> to
> >>> show how to hack into the universiti, silap2 pak guard dengan pembasuh
> >>> jamban pun nak masuk dengar.
> >>>
> >>> Of course, kene minta kebenaran memang itu syarat tetap. Lepas tu boleh
> >>> bagi mereka masa utk bersiap dan kita rancang serangan ke atas mereka.
> >>> Apabila dapat tembus, silap2 dapat hadiah dari mereka suruh tutup mulut
> >>> tentang kekantoian sistem mereka. Atau hacker kita diambik sebagai
> >>> pakar-perunding luar. Macam ni akan lebih memasyurkan HACKERM sehingga
> >>> luar negara, kerana yang saya tahu tiada lagi program TV yang
> >>> menunjukkan keje2 mcm ni.
> >>>
> >>> So, berapa hacker kita ade ni? Takkan Syazwan seorang je? Cmon.. lets
> >>> assemble 3 platoon elit komando siber kita!
> >>>
> >>> >>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> > >
> >
>
> >
>

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[osdcmy-public] Re: 2 idea setelah masuk linux varsiti

[Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini]

too dull laa..
kalau dah nama HACKEM tv mesti kena ganaz dan boleh menarik orang..

On 10/8/09, lutfi raffi  wrote:
> Template lebih kurang amcam ni:
>
> http://www.malaysiakini.tv/video/17876/bns-postal-votes-in-danger-.html
>
>
>
> 2009/10/8 lutfi raffi 
>
>> @wan: masih berteguh untuk buat macam malaysia kini sebab nampak lebih
>> kemas dan profesional...
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/10/8 red1 
>>
>>>
>>> Mohd Rizal Mohd Shahari wrote:
>>> > WOW!... Idea bernas ni. Tp live hacking tu x kantoi ke nnt?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  i bincang with Syazwan because we want to give ideas that can pull the
>>> crowds and layppl in the streets. If you interbiu about FOSS org
>>> mengantuk je. Student pun tanak datang dengar. But if u say, "u going to
>>> show how to hack into the universiti, silap2 pak guard dengan pembasuh
>>> jamban pun nak masuk dengar.
>>>
>>> Of course, kene minta kebenaran memang itu syarat tetap. Lepas tu boleh
>>> bagi mereka masa utk bersiap dan kita rancang serangan ke atas mereka.
>>> Apabila dapat tembus, silap2 dapat hadiah dari mereka suruh tutup mulut
>>> tentang kekantoian sistem mereka. Atau hacker kita diambik sebagai
>>> pakar-perunding luar. Macam ni akan lebih memasyurkan HACKERM sehingga
>>> luar negara, kerana yang saya tahu tiada lagi program TV yang
>>> menunjukkan keje2 mcm ni.
>>>
>>> So, berapa hacker kita ade ni? Takkan Syazwan seorang je? Cmon.. lets
>>> assemble 3 platoon elit komando siber kita!
>>>
>>> >>
>>>
>>
>
> >
>

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[osdcmy-public] Re: 2 idea setelah masuk linux varsiti

[lutfi raffi]

Template lebih kurang amcam ni:

http://www.malaysiakini.tv/video/17876/bns-postal-votes-in-danger-.html



2009/10/8 lutfi raffi 

> @wan: masih berteguh untuk buat macam malaysia kini sebab nampak lebih
> kemas dan profesional...
>
>
>
> 2009/10/8 red1 
>
>>
>> Mohd Rizal Mohd Shahari wrote:
>> > WOW!... Idea bernas ni. Tp live hacking tu x kantoi ke nnt?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>  i bincang with Syazwan because we want to give ideas that can pull the
>> crowds and layppl in the streets. If you interbiu about FOSS org
>> mengantuk je. Student pun tanak datang dengar. But if u say, "u going to
>> show how to hack into the universiti, silap2 pak guard dengan pembasuh
>> jamban pun nak masuk dengar.
>>
>> Of course, kene minta kebenaran memang itu syarat tetap. Lepas tu boleh
>> bagi mereka masa utk bersiap dan kita rancang serangan ke atas mereka.
>> Apabila dapat tembus, silap2 dapat hadiah dari mereka suruh tutup mulut
>> tentang kekantoian sistem mereka. Atau hacker kita diambik sebagai
>> pakar-perunding luar. Macam ni akan lebih memasyurkan HACKERM sehingga
>> luar negara, kerana yang saya tahu tiada lagi program TV yang
>> menunjukkan keje2 mcm ni.
>>
>> So, berapa hacker kita ade ni? Takkan Syazwan seorang je? Cmon.. lets
>> assemble 3 platoon elit komando siber kita!
>>
>> >>
>>
>

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[osdcmy-public] Re: 2 idea setelah masuk linux varsiti

[lutfi raffi]

@wan: masih berteguh untuk buat macam malaysia kini sebab nampak lebih kemas
dan profesional...



2009/10/8 red1 

>
> Mohd Rizal Mohd Shahari wrote:
> > WOW!... Idea bernas ni. Tp live hacking tu x kantoi ke nnt?
> >
> >
> >
>  i bincang with Syazwan because we want to give ideas that can pull the
> crowds and layppl in the streets. If you interbiu about FOSS org
> mengantuk je. Student pun tanak datang dengar. But if u say, "u going to
> show how to hack into the universiti, silap2 pak guard dengan pembasuh
> jamban pun nak masuk dengar.
>
> Of course, kene minta kebenaran memang itu syarat tetap. Lepas tu boleh
> bagi mereka masa utk bersiap dan kita rancang serangan ke atas mereka.
> Apabila dapat tembus, silap2 dapat hadiah dari mereka suruh tutup mulut
> tentang kekantoian sistem mereka. Atau hacker kita diambik sebagai
> pakar-perunding luar. Macam ni akan lebih memasyurkan HACKERM sehingga
> luar negara, kerana yang saya tahu tiada lagi program TV yang
> menunjukkan keje2 mcm ni.
>
> So, berapa hacker kita ade ni? Takkan Syazwan seorang je? Cmon.. lets
> assemble 3 platoon elit komando siber kita!
>
> >
>

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[osdcmy-public] Re: 2 idea setelah masuk linux varsiti

[red1]

Mohd Rizal Mohd Shahari wrote:
> WOW!... Idea bernas ni. Tp live hacking tu x kantoi ke nnt?
>
>
>   
 i bincang with Syazwan because we want to give ideas that can pull the 
crowds and layppl in the streets. If you interbiu about FOSS org 
mengantuk je. Student pun tanak datang dengar. But if u say, "u going to 
show how to hack into the universiti, silap2 pak guard dengan pembasuh 
jamban pun nak masuk dengar.

Of course, kene minta kebenaran memang itu syarat tetap. Lepas tu boleh 
bagi mereka masa utk bersiap dan kita rancang serangan ke atas mereka. 
Apabila dapat tembus, silap2 dapat hadiah dari mereka suruh tutup mulut 
tentang kekantoian sistem mereka. Atau hacker kita diambik sebagai 
pakar-perunding luar. Macam ni akan lebih memasyurkan HACKERM sehingga 
luar negara, kerana yang saya tahu tiada lagi program TV yang 
menunjukkan keje2 mcm ni.

So, berapa hacker kita ade ni? Takkan Syazwan seorang je? Cmon.. lets 
assemble 3 platoon elit komando siber kita!

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[osdcmy-public] Re: 2 idea setelah masuk linux varsiti

[Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini]

tak berapa sokong sangat buat macam malaysia kini..
baik buat macam website ni:-

http://live.pirillo.com

@red1: any suggestion about web layout or namechange?

2009/10/8 lutfi raffi 

> yeah.. setuju macam malaysiakini.. cantek gak tu
>
> 2009/10/8 darXness darXness 
>
>
>> kive hacking tu kene mnx persetujuan dari syrkt tu.mybe dorang nak
>> test security server dorang.so bleh la exploit secare legal.hehe.yang
>> pasal tv realiti,hmm..mcm xrelevan lak.tp pasal channel,mmg stuju
>> sgt.mcm malasysiakini,n mcm2 lagi.kite interview,pas2 upload lam tu.tp
>> kalo bleh biar icon international or icon2 besr mcm RMS,mahathir,red1
>> ke..hehe...
>>
>> satu lagi idea,yg nie team roadshow da bncg aritu,kite wat feedback
>> form.pastu kite wat satu team kecik kat u yang kite pegi.so kalo new
>> member yang baru nak besekan diri ngn linux n ade prob,bleh refer pada
>> team kite kat sane.mcm duta kecik kat u la..amacm?
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
>

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[osdcmy-public] Re: 2 idea setelah masuk linux varsiti

[lutfi raffi]

yeah.. setuju macam malaysiakini.. cantek gak tu

2009/10/8 darXness darXness 

>
> kive hacking tu kene mnx persetujuan dari syrkt tu.mybe dorang nak
> test security server dorang.so bleh la exploit secare legal.hehe.yang
> pasal tv realiti,hmm..mcm xrelevan lak.tp pasal channel,mmg stuju
> sgt.mcm malasysiakini,n mcm2 lagi.kite interview,pas2 upload lam tu.tp
> kalo bleh biar icon international or icon2 besr mcm RMS,mahathir,red1
> ke..hehe...
>
> satu lagi idea,yg nie team roadshow da bncg aritu,kite wat feedback
> form.pastu kite wat satu team kecik kat u yang kite pegi.so kalo new
> member yang baru nak besekan diri ngn linux n ade prob,bleh refer pada
> team kite kat sane.mcm duta kecik kat u la..amacm?
>
> >
>

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[osdcmy-public] Re: Poor teaching of CS in Uni, not only in M'sia...

[Hasanuddin Abu Bakar]

UiTM takes 5 years to rearrange syllabus.



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On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:20 PM, darXness darXness wrote:

>
> hmm...sbb ak pun stdent..ak rase ade btolnyer mnde nie...
> "..The reason is that people who teach programming don't program, as
> far as I can tell."
> menarik gak..hehe...
> ape kate,kite wat satu program course,pasal opensource mcm
> ccna,mcse,rhce.so kalo lect cs wajib ade sijil nie  n kene implement
> lam life dorang.tiap tahun kene renew so nak xnak,dorang kene amik
> gak.heheh
>
> >
>

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[osdcmy-public] Re: Poor teaching of CS in Uni, not only in M'sia...

[darXness darXness]

hmm...sbb ak pun stdent..ak rase ade btolnyer mnde nie...
"..The reason is that people who teach programming don't program, as
far as I can tell."
menarik gak..hehe...
ape kate,kite wat satu program course,pasal opensource mcm
ccna,mcse,rhce.so kalo lect cs wajib ade sijil nie  n kene implement
lam life dorang.tiap tahun kene renew so nak xnak,dorang kene amik
gak.heheh

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[osdcmy-public] Re: 2 idea setelah masuk linux varsiti

[darXness darXness]

kive hacking tu kene mnx persetujuan dari syrkt tu.mybe dorang nak
test security server dorang.so bleh la exploit secare legal.hehe.yang
pasal tv realiti,hmm..mcm xrelevan lak.tp pasal channel,mmg stuju
sgt.mcm malasysiakini,n mcm2 lagi.kite interview,pas2 upload lam tu.tp
kalo bleh biar icon international or icon2 besr mcm RMS,mahathir,red1
ke..hehe...

satu lagi idea,yg nie team roadshow da bncg aritu,kite wat feedback
form.pastu kite wat satu team kecik kat u yang kite pegi.so kalo new
member yang baru nak besekan diri ngn linux n ade prob,bleh refer pada
team kite kat sane.mcm duta kecik kat u la..amacm?

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[osdcmy-public] Re: 2 idea setelah masuk linux varsiti

[Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini]

jangan la kita terus serbu hacking je..
mungkin minta kebenaran dulu..
tujuan: mengenalpasti tahap keselamatan pelayan simpanan data :p

2009/10/8 Mohd Rizal Mohd Shahari 

>
> WOW!... Idea bernas ni. Tp live hacking tu x kantoi ke nnt?
>
>
>
> 2009/10/8 Harisfazillah Jamel :
> >
> > Bincang dengan rakan-rakan FreeBSD. Fazli pasti ada idea lagi baik...
> >
> > 2009/10/8 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini :
> >>
> >>
> >> 2009/10/8 red1 
> >>>
> >>> Antara ide i lupa tadi ialah Youtube demo of Syazwan the Malaysian
> >>> Hacker. First episod i nak you duk tepi KLCC towers dan hack masuk
> >>> betul2. I rakam dan beri running interbiu. Lepas itu kita panggil
> akhbar
> >>> The Star dan dedahkan kejayaan hack tersebut.
> >>
> >> Ayoo, saye kena buat ke? hehe..nanti cuba cari team dan mintak permisson
> >> beberapa syarikat gergasi atau tak gergasi test service server
> mereka..tapi
> >> tak boleh tunjuk 100% bagaimana proses hacking tu dijalankan.
> >>
> >
> > >
> >
>
> >
>

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[osdcmy-public] Re: 2 idea setelah masuk linux varsiti

[Mohd Rizal Mohd Shahari]

WOW!... Idea bernas ni. Tp live hacking tu x kantoi ke nnt?



2009/10/8 Harisfazillah Jamel :
>
> Bincang dengan rakan-rakan FreeBSD. Fazli pasti ada idea lagi baik...
>
> 2009/10/8 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini :
>>
>>
>> 2009/10/8 red1 
>>>
>>> Antara ide i lupa tadi ialah Youtube demo of Syazwan the Malaysian
>>> Hacker. First episod i nak you duk tepi KLCC towers dan hack masuk
>>> betul2. I rakam dan beri running interbiu. Lepas itu kita panggil akhbar
>>> The Star dan dedahkan kejayaan hack tersebut.
>>
>> Ayoo, saye kena buat ke? hehe..nanti cuba cari team dan mintak permisson
>> beberapa syarikat gergasi atau tak gergasi test service server mereka..tapi
>> tak boleh tunjuk 100% bagaimana proses hacking tu dijalankan.
>>
>
> >
>

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[osdcmy-public] Re: Wakil OSDC untuk MyGOSSCon 24 WebDev Contest

[Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini]

belum cukup ilmu la nak buat web development framework..
kalau jadi pom-pom boy kat belakang boleh la [?]

2009/10/8 Mohd Rizal Mohd Shahari 

>
> Saya akan buat 1 team tu. Maaf lambat reply sbb jarang tgk e-mel sejak
> asyik ulang alik dari hospital ni.
>
> Ada sesiapa yg nak masuk team ni sila bagi nama.
>
>
>
> 2009/10/8 nuhaa :
> > kita takdak main rasuah2 ye
> >
> > osdc takde wakil ke?? at least 2 org, max 5 org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Nuhaa All Bakry / cawanpink
> > http://cawanpink.net
> > http://fosschix.my
> >
> >
> > 2009/10/8 Raja Iskandar Shah 
> >>
> >> ikut perisikan saya cik cawanpink.net adalah salah sorang ajk
> >> pertandingan. rasanya boh pun mungkin terlibat sama.
> >>
> >> tapi saya ingin ingatkan rasuah dalam bentuk hadiah / saguhati / salah
> >> guna kuasa adalah salah dari segi undang2 ;-)
> >>
> >> kalau tanya team krimnet - depa nak makan free aje. hahahaha.
> love
> >> of coding + free food ;-)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2009/10/8 Mohammad Sallehuddin Kodri 
> >>>
> >>> cayalah. harap2 bos Raja n geng boleh menang. kalo osdc.my ader team
> pun
> >>> leh menang gak. kira bolot ar semua.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>> On 2009 Okt 8, at 10:47 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah <
> rajaiskand...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> saya pun harap ada team osdc.my sendiri. no worries about menang atau
> >>> kalah atau malu - itu semua adat permainan (man utd fc pun kalah juga).
> yang
> >>> penting turun gelanggang.
> >>>
> >>> krimnet memang akan hantar team sendiri dan sekarang ini kami standby
> >>> kalau perlu jadi wakil bersama osdc.my. in case osdc.my takde wakil
> sendiri.
> >>> kalau nak letak osdc.my-krimnet pun boleh jugak. pasal krimnet pun
> asalnya
> >>> dari kelab remaja jugak.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2009/10/8 mohd fenris 
> 
>  just my 2 cent...
>  kenapa nak ade *-osdc.my ? kan ke lebih afdal @ bagus kalau pakai nama
>  kumpulan sayabanggadengannamakumpulansaya (sbg cth) . so kalau menang
> ke
>  kalah ker .. saguhati ker .. x de la nak tunding jari sana sini ...
>  sy yakin ada team dari osdc.my , betul x rakan2?
> 
>  On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah
>   wrote:
> >
> > topic akan diberikan masa mula competition day tu - tak aci lah kalau
> > kasi awal2
> >
> > cik cawanpink.net lebih arif
> >
> > bos, kalau takde team osdc.my, boleh ke kami guna nama
> krimnet-osdc.my
> > ? closing date ahad 11 oct 2009. kami dah nak kena submit esok pagi.
> winning
> > boleh split 50/50. need to know by 8am esok.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:45 PM, A Johan  wrote:
> >>
> >> so apa format competition ni? kita boleh buat apa2 webapp ke masa
> >> competition day tu dia bagi keyword/topic lps tu kita create the
> webapp kat
> >> situ jugak?
> >>
> >> aku nak pergi rendam tangan dalam ais untuk menaip dgn lebih laju
> masa
> >> competition karang...
> >>
> >> aj
> >>
> >> 2009/10/7 Mohd Hidzuan 
> >>>
> >>> bro boleh wakil OSDC pulak.. lawan tetap lawan,, hehehe
> >>> ...
> >>> To follow the path, look to the master,
> >>> follow the master, walk with the master,
> >>> see through the master, become the master.
> >>>
> >>> Selasih Net Enterprise
> >>> "we never sleep, we just park our head"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sent from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2009/10/7 A Johan 
> 
>  wah ni mcm menarik je ni. aku nak join the team tapi subject to
> tak
>  kena hantar mana2 oleh kompeni. boleh kira ke mcm tu?
> 
>  aj
> 
>  2009/10/7 Harisfazillah Jamel 
> >
> > OK nohal... Nanti kita tengokkan saper lagi boleh masuk team.
> >
> > 2009/10/7 Mohd Hidzuan :
> > > sama bro.. sebab dia 24 jam..
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
>  --
> 
>  Samuel Goldwyn  - "I'm willing to admit that I may not always be
>  right, but I am never wrong."
> 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Joan Crawford  - "I, Joan Crawford, I believe in the dollar.
> >> Everything I earn, I spend."
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > >
> >
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