Re: [osdcmy-public] The Curious Case of Butang Gomen

[CL Chow]

Song that depicted our situation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3M8Sk7X51k&feature=related


Regards,
CL Chow
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On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah
wrote:

> i pity ritz and rafe
>
> at night just before i close my eyes, i wonder what is their answer when
> their boss asks "give away software for free ! humph ! how to generate the
> industry like that ?"
>
> unfortunately, the big boss is too busy playing golf with these foreign
> companies. that's what you get when you have an mba as a ceo. oopppsss...
> he's doesn't have a postgraduate qualification. he's just a former computer
> salesman. i wonder how much export sales did he make in his previous
> employment ?
>
> //reminds me of george orwell's animal farm !
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 12:39 PM, red1  wrote:
>
>> Precisely we have to take the heavy cue from our ex ex PM Tun Mahathir
>> that rightly realised the branding gap and took big steps towards it. Today
>> we do not need to spend millions to brand F1 which is not ours anyway but we
>> can brand our own projects. Jimmy Choo and Michelle Yeoh or Vijay Singh (not
>> rakyat but in law to rakyat). If we put up billboards featuring their faces
>> and my goat and say "Made In Malaysia - Yes, Malaysia Can"  it will attract
>> more investment due to the motivation, drive, spirit, semangat
>> berkobar-kobar and it wont take even 0.0001% of any Rancangan Malaysia.
>> Sadly the Pau Lady poster does not jinggle any pocket well.
>>
>> I have seen so much ideas given out here by our young turks and i pity
>> that ALL if not most of them will end up leaving open source when they dry
>> out as they get employed by proprietary companies that harvest their juices.
>> Hopefully RMK10 brings change. If not hopefully the next General Elections.
>> If not, keep bitching i mean pitching. :)
>>
>>
>> On 5/2/10 12:08 PM, sweemeng ng wrote:
>>
>>> What sucks in what in most mind, certificate == employability
>>> It is not totally wrong. but IT is much much bigger than that.
>>> When people heard of a well known name, their just impressed easily.
>>>
>>> when you tell people i can code in python, they just ask what.
>>> such is a sad state of .my now
>>>
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Re: [osdcmy-public] The Curious Case of Butang Gomen

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

i pity ritz and rafe

at night just before i close my eyes, i wonder what is their answer when
their boss asks "give away software for free ! humph ! how to generate the
industry like that ?"

unfortunately, the big boss is too busy playing golf with these foreign
companies. that's what you get when you have an mba as a ceo. oopppsss...
he's doesn't have a postgraduate qualification. he's just a former computer
salesman. i wonder how much export sales did he make in his previous
employment ?

//reminds me of george orwell's animal farm !







On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 12:39 PM, red1  wrote:

> Precisely we have to take the heavy cue from our ex ex PM Tun Mahathir that
> rightly realised the branding gap and took big steps towards it. Today we do
> not need to spend millions to brand F1 which is not ours anyway but we can
> brand our own projects. Jimmy Choo and Michelle Yeoh or Vijay Singh (not
> rakyat but in law to rakyat). If we put up billboards featuring their faces
> and my goat and say "Made In Malaysia - Yes, Malaysia Can"  it will attract
> more investment due to the motivation, drive, spirit, semangat
> berkobar-kobar and it wont take even 0.0001% of any Rancangan Malaysia.
> Sadly the Pau Lady poster does not jinggle any pocket well.
>
> I have seen so much ideas given out here by our young turks and i pity that
> ALL if not most of them will end up leaving open source when they dry out as
> they get employed by proprietary companies that harvest their juices.
> Hopefully RMK10 brings change. If not hopefully the next General Elections.
> If not, keep bitching i mean pitching. :)
>
>
> On 5/2/10 12:08 PM, sweemeng ng wrote:
>
>> What sucks in what in most mind, certificate == employability
>> It is not totally wrong. but IT is much much bigger than that.
>> When people heard of a well known name, their just impressed easily.
>>
>> when you tell people i can code in python, they just ask what.
>> such is a sad state of .my now
>>
>>
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Re: [osdcmy-public] The Curious Case of Butang Gomen

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

sabasun ke ?



On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Adzmely Mansor  wrote:

> just for info, one local hypermarket in kuala terengganu is adopting
> adempiere, some customizing is on going..
>
>
> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 12:39 PM, red1  wrote:
>
>> Precisely we have to take the heavy cue from our ex ex PM Tun Mahathir
>> that rightly realised the branding gap and took big steps towards it. Today
>> we do not need to spend millions to brand F1 which is not ours anyway but we
>> can brand our own projects. Jimmy Choo and Michelle Yeoh or Vijay Singh (not
>> rakyat but in law to rakyat). If we put up billboards featuring their faces
>> and my goat and say "Made In Malaysia - Yes, Malaysia Can"  it will attract
>> more investment due to the motivation, drive, spirit, semangat
>> berkobar-kobar and it wont take even 0.0001% of any Rancangan Malaysia.
>> Sadly the Pau Lady poster does not jinggle any pocket well.
>>
>> I have seen so much ideas given out here by our young turks and i pity
>> that ALL if not most of them will end up leaving open source when they dry
>> out as they get employed by proprietary companies that harvest their juices.
>> Hopefully RMK10 brings change. If not hopefully the next General Elections.
>> If not, keep bitching i mean pitching. :)
>>
>>
>> On 5/2/10 12:08 PM, sweemeng ng wrote:
>>
>>> What sucks in what in most mind, certificate == employability
>>> It is not totally wrong. but IT is much much bigger than that.
>>> When people heard of a well known name, their just impressed easily.
>>>
>>> when you tell people i can code in python, they just ask what.
>>> such is a sad state of .my now
>>>
>>>
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Re: [osdcmy-public] The Curious Case of Butang Gomen

[Adzmely Mansor]

just for info, one local hypermarket in kuala terengganu is adopting
adempiere, some customizing is on going..

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 12:39 PM, red1  wrote:

> Precisely we have to take the heavy cue from our ex ex PM Tun Mahathir that
> rightly realised the branding gap and took big steps towards it. Today we do
> not need to spend millions to brand F1 which is not ours anyway but we can
> brand our own projects. Jimmy Choo and Michelle Yeoh or Vijay Singh (not
> rakyat but in law to rakyat). If we put up billboards featuring their faces
> and my goat and say "Made In Malaysia - Yes, Malaysia Can"  it will attract
> more investment due to the motivation, drive, spirit, semangat
> berkobar-kobar and it wont take even 0.0001% of any Rancangan Malaysia.
> Sadly the Pau Lady poster does not jinggle any pocket well.
>
> I have seen so much ideas given out here by our young turks and i pity that
> ALL if not most of them will end up leaving open source when they dry out as
> they get employed by proprietary companies that harvest their juices.
> Hopefully RMK10 brings change. If not hopefully the next General Elections.
> If not, keep bitching i mean pitching. :)
>
>
> On 5/2/10 12:08 PM, sweemeng ng wrote:
>
>> What sucks in what in most mind, certificate == employability
>> It is not totally wrong. but IT is much much bigger than that.
>> When people heard of a well known name, their just impressed easily.
>>
>> when you tell people i can code in python, they just ask what.
>> such is a sad state of .my now
>>
>>
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Re: [osdcmy-public] The Curious Case of Butang Gomen

[red1]

Precisely we have to take the heavy cue from our ex ex PM Tun Mahathir 
that rightly realised the branding gap and took big steps towards it. 
Today we do not need to spend millions to brand F1 which is not ours 
anyway but we can brand our own projects. Jimmy Choo and Michelle Yeoh 
or Vijay Singh (not rakyat but in law to rakyat). If we put up 
billboards featuring their faces and my goat and say "Made In Malaysia - 
Yes, Malaysia Can"  it will attract more investment due to the 
motivation, drive, spirit, semangat berkobar-kobar and it wont take even 
0.0001% of any Rancangan Malaysia. Sadly the Pau Lady poster does not 
jinggle any pocket well.


I have seen so much ideas given out here by our young turks and i pity 
that ALL if not most of them will end up leaving open source when they 
dry out as they get employed by proprietary companies that harvest their 
juices. Hopefully RMK10 brings change. If not hopefully the next General 
Elections. If not, keep bitching i mean pitching. :)


On 5/2/10 12:08 PM, sweemeng ng wrote:

What sucks in what in most mind, certificate == employability
It is not totally wrong. but IT is much much bigger than that.
When people heard of a well known name, their just impressed easily.

when you tell people i can code in python, they just ask what.
such is a sad state of .my now



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Re: [osdcmy-public] Re: VirtualBox Version 3.2.0 BETA 1 available with the name Oracle VM VirtualBox

[sweemeng ng]

beta in open source world and commercial world is different.

beta quality in foss as you know just meant, it is not production ready, but
you can try it

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 12:09 PM, fenris  wrote:

> thanks for the info bro and i agreed .. btw .. myself referring to here:
>
> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/lucid/beta2
>
> "It should come as no surprise that this beta release of Lucid Lynx
> contains other bugs. Your comments, bug reports, patches and suggestions
> will help fix bugs and improve future releases."
>
>
> just my 2 cent
>
>
> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Hasan Abu Bakar wrote:
>
>> I thought I didn't skip ITS330 (Information Systems Development) class
>> when I was at UiTM and I am right. Here is the definition of BETA
>> release software
>>
>> from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle#Beta
>>
>> "Beta version software is likely to be useful for internal
>> demonstrations and previews to select customers."
>>
>> At this point, VirtualBox 3.2.0 Beta 1 is far from useful, it is _useless_
>>
>> So ejat, revise it :)
>>
>>
>>
>> Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
>> ---
>> Ubuntu embedded developer/tester
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut
>>
>> Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org
>>
>> PGP Public Key
>> http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xC5A1B11965D43C5C
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 11:12 AM, fenris  wrote:
>> > bro .. nama pun beta .. thats y they needed a tester like u so u can
>> report
>> > back what a the lack for their new product :)
>> >
>> > On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar <
>> bizkut...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Fast result, it doesn't work on windows server 2008 x64. instant error
>> >> on guest boot up. Poor beta quality. It should be unreleased or alpha
>> >> or something like that before they can call it beta.
>> >> http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=30344
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
>> >> ---
>> >> Ubuntu embedded developer/tester
>> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut
>> >>
>> >> Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org
>> >>
>> >> PGP Public Key
>> >>
>> http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xC5A1B11965D43C5C
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> > So Oracle owns VirtualBox. How do you think about this guys?
>> >> >
>> >> > VirtualBox Version 3.2.0 is a major update. The following major new
>> >> > features were added:
>> >> > • Following the acquisition of Sun Microsystems by Oracle
>> Corporation,
>> >> > the product is now called Oracle VM VirtualBox and all references
>> were
>> >> > changed without impacting compatibility.
>> >> > • Experimental support for Mac OS X guests
>> >> > • Memory ballooning to dynamically in- or decrease the amount of RAM
>> >> > used by a VM (64-bit hosts only) (see the manual for more
>> information)
>> >> > • CPU hot-plugging for Linux (hot-add and hot-remove) and certain
>> >> > Windows guests (hot-add only) (see the manual for more information)
>> >> > • New Hypervisor features: with both VT-x/AMD-V on 64-bit hosts,
>> using
>> >> > large pages can improve performance (see the manual for more
>> >> > information); also, on VT-x, unrestricted guest execution is now
>> >> > supported (if nested paging is enabled with VT-x, real mode and
>> >> > protected mode without paging code runs faster, which mainly speeds
>> up
>> >> > guest OS booting)
>> >> > • Support for deleting snapshots while the VM is running
>> >> > • Support for multi-monitor guest setups in the GUI (see the manual
>> >> > for more information)
>> >> > • USB tablet/keyboard emulation for improved user experience if no
>> >> > Guest Additions are available
>> >> > • LsiLogic SAS controller emulation
>> >> > • RDP video acceleration
>> >> > • NAT engine configuration via API and VBoxManage
>> >> > • Guest Additions: added support for executing guest applications
>> from
>> >> > the host system
>> >> > • OVF: enhanced OVF support with custom namespace to preserve
>> settings
>> >> > that are not part of the base OVF standard
>> >> >
>> >> > http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=30287
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
>> >> > ---
>> >> > Ubuntu embedded developer/tester
>> >> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut
>> >> >
>> >> > Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org
>> >> >
>> >> > PGP Public Key
>> >> >
>> http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xC5A1B11965D43C5C
>> >> >
>> >>
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Re: VirtualBox Version 3.2.0 BETA 1 available with the name Oracle VM VirtualBox

[fenris]

thanks for the info bro and i agreed .. btw .. myself referring to here:

http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/lucid/beta2

"It should come as no surprise that this beta release of Lucid Lynx contains
other bugs. Your comments, bug reports, patches and suggestions will help
fix bugs and improve future releases."


just my 2 cent

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Hasan Abu Bakar wrote:

> I thought I didn't skip ITS330 (Information Systems Development) class
> when I was at UiTM and I am right. Here is the definition of BETA
> release software
>
> from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle#Beta
>
> "Beta version software is likely to be useful for internal
> demonstrations and previews to select customers."
>
> At this point, VirtualBox 3.2.0 Beta 1 is far from useful, it is _useless_
>
> So ejat, revise it :)
>
>
>
> Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
> ---
> Ubuntu embedded developer/tester
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut
>
> Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org
>
> PGP Public Key
> http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xC5A1B11965D43C5C
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 11:12 AM, fenris  wrote:
> > bro .. nama pun beta .. thats y they needed a tester like u so u can
> report
> > back what a the lack for their new product :)
> >
> > On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar <
> bizkut...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Fast result, it doesn't work on windows server 2008 x64. instant error
> >> on guest boot up. Poor beta quality. It should be unreleased or alpha
> >> or something like that before they can call it beta.
> >> http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=30344
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
> >> ---
> >> Ubuntu embedded developer/tester
> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut
> >>
> >> Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org
> >>
> >> PGP Public Key
> >>
> http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xC5A1B11965D43C5C
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
> >>  wrote:
> >> > So Oracle owns VirtualBox. How do you think about this guys?
> >> >
> >> > VirtualBox Version 3.2.0 is a major update. The following major new
> >> > features were added:
> >> > • Following the acquisition of Sun Microsystems by Oracle Corporation,
> >> > the product is now called Oracle VM VirtualBox and all references were
> >> > changed without impacting compatibility.
> >> > • Experimental support for Mac OS X guests
> >> > • Memory ballooning to dynamically in- or decrease the amount of RAM
> >> > used by a VM (64-bit hosts only) (see the manual for more information)
> >> > • CPU hot-plugging for Linux (hot-add and hot-remove) and certain
> >> > Windows guests (hot-add only) (see the manual for more information)
> >> > • New Hypervisor features: with both VT-x/AMD-V on 64-bit hosts, using
> >> > large pages can improve performance (see the manual for more
> >> > information); also, on VT-x, unrestricted guest execution is now
> >> > supported (if nested paging is enabled with VT-x, real mode and
> >> > protected mode without paging code runs faster, which mainly speeds up
> >> > guest OS booting)
> >> > • Support for deleting snapshots while the VM is running
> >> > • Support for multi-monitor guest setups in the GUI (see the manual
> >> > for more information)
> >> > • USB tablet/keyboard emulation for improved user experience if no
> >> > Guest Additions are available
> >> > • LsiLogic SAS controller emulation
> >> > • RDP video acceleration
> >> > • NAT engine configuration via API and VBoxManage
> >> > • Guest Additions: added support for executing guest applications from
> >> > the host system
> >> > • OVF: enhanced OVF support with custom namespace to preserve settings
> >> > that are not part of the base OVF standard
> >> >
> >> > http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=30287
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
> >> > ---
> >> > Ubuntu embedded developer/tester
> >> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut
> >> >
> >> > Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org
> >> >
> >> > PGP Public Key
> >> >
> http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xC5A1B11965D43C5C
> >> >
> >>
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Re: [osdcmy-public] The Curious Case of Butang Gomen

[sweemeng ng]

What sucks in what in most mind, certificate == employability
It is not totally wrong. but IT is much much bigger than that.
When people heard of a well known name, their just impressed easily.

when you tell people i can code in python, they just ask what.
such is a sad state of .my now


On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 12:03 PM, red1  wrote:

>  Scrambled, just the filter is open source, habis terbukak la semua rahsia
> :)
> Yeah good idea.. maybe we suggest in RMK10 to either use OpenJDK or
> Python.
> I also talked to Boh by closed paid phone call that we can propose Python
> and ADempiere as top topics for KPerak to build real world skills.
>
> Some months ago MDec announced MOU with Oracle as a way to increase
> employability for our grads. Don't they know that will certainly exarcebrate
> further the major national issue of brain drain? If more grads are good in
> Oracle and now Java, more will leave our shores for Singapore, US and China.
>
> Why doesn't MDec take the goatman advice that in order to arrest the brain
> drain and absense of brains (related not infered) we have to have our own
> beef with our own brandname on it? MDec should sell ADempiere to the
> universities as top prority issue.
>
> In the end what is left in MDec are lots of foreign names that are just
> shadows cos ppl prefer to work with Oracle Redwood Shores rather than Oracle
> CyberJaya. I can guarantee this - that ADempiere can be moved from Berlin
> and USA to KPerak or CyberJaya. But it got to have more than just a goat
> standing in Kuang. It got to have direct activity, and not the same old
> conferences demi conferences, slogan demi slogan about other people stuff,
> and none is ours.
>
> It is always the chicken and goat story. Someone better get the farm right
> or else we call for a change of MDec's leadership. KPerak has already done
> that.
>
>
> On 5/2/10 11:44 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote:
>
> hihihi my name and my employer tak scrambled jugak ke ...
>
> anyway, hopefully we can get lots more people invoived.
>
> red1... tak nak tukar from java to python ke ?
>
> i get a little uneasy looking at oracle logo being plastered on java.com
>
>
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Re: [osdcmy-public] The Curious Case of Butang Gomen

[red1]

Scrambled, just the filter is open source, habis terbukak la semua
rahsia :)
Yeah good idea.. maybe we suggest in RMK10 to either use OpenJDK or
Python.  
I also talked to Boh by closed paid phone call that we can propose
Python and ADempiere as top topics for KPerak to build real world
skills.

Some months ago MDec announced MOU with Oracle as a way to increase
employability for our grads. Don't they know that will certainly
exarcebrate further the major national issue of brain drain? If more
grads are good in Oracle and now Java, more will leave our shores for
Singapore, US and China.

Why doesn't MDec take the goatman advice that in order to arrest the
brain drain and absense of brains (related not infered) we have to have
our own beef with our own brandname on it? MDec should sell ADempiere
to the universities as top prority issue. 

In the end what is left in MDec are lots of foreign names that are just
shadows cos ppl prefer to work with Oracle Redwood Shores rather than
Oracle CyberJaya. I can guarantee this - that ADempiere can be moved
from Berlin and USA to KPerak or CyberJaya. But it got to have more
than just a goat standing in Kuang. It got to have direct activity, and
not the same old conferences demi conferences, slogan demi slogan about
other people stuff, and none is ours.

It is always the chicken and goat story. Someone better get the farm
right or else we call for a change of MDec's leadership. KPerak has
already done that.

On 5/2/10 11:44 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote:
hihihi my name and my employer tak scrambled jugak ke
...
  
anyway, hopefully we can get lots more people invoived.
  
red1... tak nak tukar from java to python ke ?
  
i get a little uneasy looking at oracle logo being plastered on java.com
  

 





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Re: [osdcmy-public] The Curious Case of Butang Gomen

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

hihihi my name and my employer tak scrambled jugak ke ...

anyway, hopefully we can get lots more people invoived.

red1... tak nak tukar from java to python ke ?

i get a little uneasy looking at oracle logo being plastered on java.com




On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 11:16 AM, red1  wrote:

> DISCLAIMER - This is not a rant. If it ever deviated to such a lowly state,
> please ignore and do not read further.
> LANGUAGE PREFENCE - I will try to sitck to the Indonesian Java - Manglish
> with a smackering of colloqial Javanese.
>
> Ok,waras! Alkisahnya, one day in September 2006 i was ask to head the
> ADempiere project which maintain an Open Source ERP that is top ranked (
> last month's SourceForge update statea it as No.2 worldwide most active
> project). Not bad for a Malaysian eh? Yeah, right. So i was paraded around
> by local Malaysians such as Hasanudin (IBM now ex) to KPerak in late 2006
> (Tajol Rosli was MB, now ex) (and another ex (Nizar) after that).
>
> In their first meeting at PJ Hilton which i was requested to attend, the
> KPerak exco of Tan Sri Noraidah (names not accurate to protect the innocent)
> and Dato Yacoob Nordin told me how frustrated they are with MDec and MAMPU's
> slowness that they went together with Dato Zamri (then Exco IT now MB) to
> ExtraMadura of Sepanyol to see how Debian works in schools. And when i
> presented ADempiere as a higher layer ERP, they drop that and switch to my
> project as a top agenda that they can proudly say "Malaysia Boleh - Buatan
> KPerak".
>
> KPerak issued me a letter of intent that they will setup an ADempiere
> Centre in KPerak. However that did not materialise. Or so it seems until
> lately when they just changed their CEO. More on that later.
>
> Then came MDec. I was always wondering about that Pau Lady poster up there
> at the MDec's HQ in CyberJaya saying 'from 500 to 5,000 paus a day'. It is a
> curious case because not only is that Pau Lady using any of the 7 MSC
> Flagship Applications such as the IC and Passport chip which would make a
> better facade, but she is using FaceBook, not a good case of locally created
> app.
>
> So i have to spit out the sireh i tengah kunyah one subuh when i received
> news that MDec was organising OSCONF 2009 and inviting Google, Phyton and
> other global greats not not the top ranked SourceForge project, ADempiere. I
> wrote to Riz which immediately 'boleh, boleh' and so at last i end up on the
> front page of Star's Intech cover story. Great isn't it? Yeah, so did my
> goat!
>
> And curiously, MDec did nothing after that. Even its RM10million promise.
> Later i learnt that it really has run out of funds and everyone has to wait
> for R-M-K-Ten. Well, hopefully BN does not end its winning streak or else
> there will be too many ex-es and new guys may take over in MDec and KPerak
> and i have to sell my goat story all over again from scratch. That is why i
> am pening this story here so that its rendered to posterity.
>
> Now before i go back to Ipoh, i want to visit another place in PutraJaya.
> Last month i got a call from MAMPU's OSCC's Nicholas Suppiah (again, name is
> scrambled) that a top govt agency is asking for ADempiere reference in USA,
> China or Singapore to visit. I agreed for the call to come thru and i ended
> up speaking to Jabatan Akauntan Negara (again, name scrambled) that they are
> sick of paying high SAP license fees (hmm.. let me guess. R-M-K-Nine has no
> more money?). So i agreed to assist provided they pay me in R-M-K-Ten. They
> agreed and will write me a letter that for the moment i will assist Pro
> Bono. Well, i can trust AG Dept more cos they wont change heads when the
> govt of the day changes. X fingers and touch kayu pokok.
>
> Now KPerak new CEO 2 months ago call on me. He told me that he has followed
> me since the first time i was in KPerak when he was down the line and with
> the new MB's lineup his name was slotted to be the new CEO. He told me how
> he tak berani buka mulut because he is down the line but now that he is on
> the line he shall take up the damn ADempiere initiative again. Hmm.. no
> wonder some MDec officials down the line are bit quiet. Hope they beome the
> new CEO one day and call on me! :) hehe, yeah right!
>
> So Dr. Kamil, the new KPerak CEO lay down the cards. KPerak needs help. It
> has no tenants nor talent. It has budget, it has capex. Again, what am a top
> project leader who lives on the farm to do? I can't even eat my goat cos its
> my jiran's goat. I borrowed it for the Star photographer to snap a farm
> looking photo.
>
> So i suggested to KPerak to become the reference hub for AG Dept
> prorotyping of its govt ERP system. And i will suggest versa to AG Dept
> tomorrow to agree to that. Last Thursday at KPerak, Dr. Kamil requested me
> to present this idea to its board next month, with the words, "Just Do It"
> (Nike trademarked). I like those words. Reminded me of another ex.. our ex,
> ex PM, Tun Dr. Mahathir.
>
> I have invited Krim

Re: [osdcmy-public] Re: VirtualBox Version 3.2.0 BETA 1 available with the name Oracle VM VirtualBox

[Hasan Abu Bakar]

likely, YES :)



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On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah
 wrote:
> i have upgraded to ubuntu unr 10.04. it has openoffice.org 3.2 oracle (no
> more mention of sun).
>
> soon we will probably have to apt-get oracle-java6-jdk ?
>
> maybe in 5 years time we will also have apt-get microsoft-php6 ?
>
> times are a changing ...
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Hasan Abu Bakar 
> wrote:
>>
>> Solaris is also acquired  by Oracle, it's called Oracle Solaris no
>> more Sun Solaris. Current uname shows SunOS and I believe it will
>> change to OracleOS soon. But I don't think OpenSolaris will become
>> proprietary again.
>>
>>
>> Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
>> ---
>> Ubuntu embedded developer/tester
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut
>>
>> Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org
>>
>> PGP Public Key
>> http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xC5A1B11965D43C5C
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 10:20 AM, sweemeng ng  wrote:
>> > on the positive side, oracle didn't ask us to pay for it yet..
>> > consider their reputation of milking what they bought
>> > On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
>> > 
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Fast result, it doesn't work on windows server 2008 x64. instant error
>> >> on guest boot up. Poor beta quality. It should be unreleased or alpha
>> >> or something like that before they can call it beta.
>> >> http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=30344
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
>> >> ---
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>> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut
>> >>
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>> >>
>> >> PGP Public Key
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>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> > So Oracle owns VirtualBox. How do you think about this guys?
>> >> >
>> >> > VirtualBox Version 3.2.0 is a major update. The following major new
>> >> > features were added:
>> >> > • Following the acquisition of Sun Microsystems by Oracle
>> >> > Corporation,
>> >> > the product is now called Oracle VM VirtualBox and all references
>> >> > were
>> >> > changed without impacting compatibility.
>> >> > • Experimental support for Mac OS X guests
>> >> > • Memory ballooning to dynamically in- or decrease the amount of RAM
>> >> > used by a VM (64-bit hosts only) (see the manual for more
>> >> > information)
>> >> > • CPU hot-plugging for Linux (hot-add and hot-remove) and certain
>> >> > Windows guests (hot-add only) (see the manual for more information)
>> >> > • New Hypervisor features: with both VT-x/AMD-V on 64-bit hosts,
>> >> > using
>> >> > large pages can improve performance (see the manual for more
>> >> > information); also, on VT-x, unrestricted guest execution is now
>> >> > supported (if nested paging is enabled with VT-x, real mode and
>> >> > protected mode without paging code runs faster, which mainly speeds
>> >> > up
>> >> > guest OS booting)
>> >> > • Support for deleting snapshots while the VM is running
>> >> > • Support for multi-monitor guest setups in the GUI (see the manual
>> >> > for more information)
>> >> > • USB tablet/keyboard emulation for improved user experience if no
>> >> > Guest Additions are available
>> >> > • LsiLogic SAS controller emulation
>> >> > • RDP video acceleration
>> >> > • NAT engine configuration via API and VBoxManage
>> >> > • Guest Additions: added support for executing guest applications
>> >> > from
>> >> > the host system
>> >> > • OVF: enhanced OVF support with custom namespace to preserve
>> >> > settings
>> >> > that are not part of the base OVF standard
>> >> >
>> >> > http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=30287
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
>> >> > ---
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>> >> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut
>> >> >
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>> >> >
>> >> > PGP Public Key
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Re: VirtualBox Version 3.2.0 BETA 1 available with the name Oracle VM VirtualBox

[Hasan Abu Bakar]

I thought I didn't skip ITS330 (Information Systems Development) class
when I was at UiTM and I am right. Here is the definition of BETA
release software

from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle#Beta

"Beta version software is likely to be useful for internal
demonstrations and previews to select customers."

At this point, VirtualBox 3.2.0 Beta 1 is far from useful, it is _useless_

So ejat, revise it :)



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On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 11:12 AM, fenris  wrote:
> bro .. nama pun beta .. thats y they needed a tester like u so u can report
> back what a the lack for their new product :)
>
> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar 
> wrote:
>>
>> Fast result, it doesn't work on windows server 2008 x64. instant error
>> on guest boot up. Poor beta quality. It should be unreleased or alpha
>> or something like that before they can call it beta.
>> http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=30344
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
>> ---
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>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut
>>
>> Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org
>>
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>> http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xC5A1B11965D43C5C
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
>>  wrote:
>> > So Oracle owns VirtualBox. How do you think about this guys?
>> >
>> > VirtualBox Version 3.2.0 is a major update. The following major new
>> > features were added:
>> > • Following the acquisition of Sun Microsystems by Oracle Corporation,
>> > the product is now called Oracle VM VirtualBox and all references were
>> > changed without impacting compatibility.
>> > • Experimental support for Mac OS X guests
>> > • Memory ballooning to dynamically in- or decrease the amount of RAM
>> > used by a VM (64-bit hosts only) (see the manual for more information)
>> > • CPU hot-plugging for Linux (hot-add and hot-remove) and certain
>> > Windows guests (hot-add only) (see the manual for more information)
>> > • New Hypervisor features: with both VT-x/AMD-V on 64-bit hosts, using
>> > large pages can improve performance (see the manual for more
>> > information); also, on VT-x, unrestricted guest execution is now
>> > supported (if nested paging is enabled with VT-x, real mode and
>> > protected mode without paging code runs faster, which mainly speeds up
>> > guest OS booting)
>> > • Support for deleting snapshots while the VM is running
>> > • Support for multi-monitor guest setups in the GUI (see the manual
>> > for more information)
>> > • USB tablet/keyboard emulation for improved user experience if no
>> > Guest Additions are available
>> > • LsiLogic SAS controller emulation
>> > • RDP video acceleration
>> > • NAT engine configuration via API and VBoxManage
>> > • Guest Additions: added support for executing guest applications from
>> > the host system
>> > • OVF: enhanced OVF support with custom namespace to preserve settings
>> > that are not part of the base OVF standard
>> >
>> > http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=30287
>> >
>> >
>> > Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
>> > ---
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[osdcmy-public] The Curious Case of Butang Gomen

[red1]

DISCLAIMER - This is not a rant. If it ever deviated to such a lowly 
state, please ignore and do not read further.
LANGUAGE PREFENCE - I will try to sitck to the Indonesian Java - 
Manglish with a smackering of colloqial Javanese.


Ok,waras! Alkisahnya, one day in September 2006 i was ask to head the 
ADempiere project which maintain an Open Source ERP that is top ranked ( 
last month's SourceForge update statea it as No.2 worldwide most active 
project). Not bad for a Malaysian eh? Yeah, right. So i was paraded 
around by local Malaysians such as Hasanudin (IBM now ex) to KPerak in 
late 2006 (Tajol Rosli was MB, now ex) (and another ex (Nizar) after that).


In their first meeting at PJ Hilton which i was requested to attend, the 
KPerak exco of Tan Sri Noraidah (names not accurate to protect the 
innocent) and Dato Yacoob Nordin told me how frustrated they are with 
MDec and MAMPU's slowness that they went together with Dato Zamri (then 
Exco IT now MB) to ExtraMadura of Sepanyol to see how Debian works in 
schools. And when i presented ADempiere as a higher layer ERP, they drop 
that and switch to my project as a top agenda that they can proudly say 
"Malaysia Boleh - Buatan KPerak".


KPerak issued me a letter of intent that they will setup an ADempiere 
Centre in KPerak. However that did not materialise. Or so it seems until 
lately when they just changed their CEO. More on that later.


Then came MDec. I was always wondering about that Pau Lady poster up 
there at the MDec's HQ in CyberJaya saying 'from 500 to 5,000 paus a 
day'. It is a curious case because not only is that Pau Lady using any 
of the 7 MSC Flagship Applications such as the IC and Passport chip 
which would make a better facade, but she is using FaceBook, not a good 
case of locally created app.


So i have to spit out the sireh i tengah kunyah one subuh when i 
received news that MDec was organising OSCONF 2009 and inviting Google, 
Phyton and other global greats not not the top ranked SourceForge 
project, ADempiere. I wrote to Riz which immediately 'boleh, boleh' and 
so at last i end up on the front page of Star's Intech cover story. 
Great isn't it? Yeah, so did my goat!


And curiously, MDec did nothing after that. Even its RM10million 
promise. Later i learnt that it really has run out of funds and everyone 
has to wait for R-M-K-Ten. Well, hopefully BN does not end its winning 
streak or else there will be too many ex-es and new guys may take over 
in MDec and KPerak and i have to sell my goat story all over again from 
scratch. That is why i am pening this story here so that its rendered to 
posterity.


Now before i go back to Ipoh, i want to visit another place in 
PutraJaya. Last month i got a call from MAMPU's OSCC's Nicholas Suppiah 
(again, name is scrambled) that a top govt agency is asking for 
ADempiere reference in USA, China or Singapore to visit. I agreed for 
the call to come thru and i ended up speaking to Jabatan Akauntan Negara 
(again, name scrambled) that they are sick of paying high SAP license 
fees (hmm.. let me guess. R-M-K-Nine has no more money?). So i agreed to 
assist provided they pay me in R-M-K-Ten. They agreed and will write me 
a letter that for the moment i will assist Pro Bono. Well, i can trust 
AG Dept more cos they wont change heads when the govt of the day 
changes. X fingers and touch kayu pokok.


Now KPerak new CEO 2 months ago call on me. He told me that he has 
followed me since the first time i was in KPerak when he was down the 
line and with the new MB's lineup his name was slotted to be the new 
CEO. He told me how he tak berani buka mulut because he is down the line 
but now that he is on the line he shall take up the damn ADempiere 
initiative again. Hmm.. no wonder some MDec officials down the line are 
bit quiet. Hope they beome the new CEO one day and call on me! :) hehe, 
yeah right!


So Dr. Kamil, the new KPerak CEO lay down the cards. KPerak needs help. 
It has no tenants nor talent. It has budget, it has capex. Again, what 
am a top project leader who lives on the farm to do? I can't even eat my 
goat cos its my jiran's goat. I borrowed it for the Star photographer to 
snap a farm looking photo.


So i suggested to KPerak to become the reference hub for AG Dept 
prorotyping of its govt ERP system. And i will suggest versa to AG Dept 
tomorrow to agree to that. Last Thursday at KPerak, Dr. Kamil requested 
me to present this idea to its board next month, with the words, "Just 
Do It" (Nike trademarked). I like those words. Reminded me of another 
ex.. our ex, ex PM, Tun Dr. Mahathir.


I have invited KrimNet to be part of it too as Raja Iskandar is not only 
an Accountant by qualification but also tengah dapat Masters kot dalam 
Economics Intelligence, and has MSC status as well as current projects 
in MOF on mapping komodities selain dari kambing atas permukaan bumi and 
Perak has e-tanah and e-govt needs.


Are there other companies that you all can recommend to joi

Re: [osdcmy-public] Re: VirtualBox Version 3.2.0 BETA 1 available with the name Oracle VM VirtualBox

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

i have upgraded to ubuntu unr 10.04. it has openoffice.org 3.2 oracle (no
more mention of sun).

soon we will probably have to apt-get oracle-java6-jdk ?

maybe in 5 years time we will also have apt-get microsoft-php6 ?

times are a changing ...




On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Hasan Abu Bakar wrote:

> Solaris is also acquired  by Oracle, it's called Oracle Solaris no
> more Sun Solaris. Current uname shows SunOS and I believe it will
> change to OracleOS soon. But I don't think OpenSolaris will become
> proprietary again.
>
>
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> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 10:20 AM, sweemeng ng  wrote:
> > on the positive side, oracle didn't ask us to pay for it yet..
> > consider their reputation of milking what they bought
> > On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar <
> bizkut...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Fast result, it doesn't work on windows server 2008 x64. instant error
> >> on guest boot up. Poor beta quality. It should be unreleased or alpha
> >> or something like that before they can call it beta.
> >> http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=30344
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
> >>  wrote:
> >> > So Oracle owns VirtualBox. How do you think about this guys?
> >> >
> >> > VirtualBox Version 3.2.0 is a major update. The following major new
> >> > features were added:
> >> > • Following the acquisition of Sun Microsystems by Oracle Corporation,
> >> > the product is now called Oracle VM VirtualBox and all references were
> >> > changed without impacting compatibility.
> >> > • Experimental support for Mac OS X guests
> >> > • Memory ballooning to dynamically in- or decrease the amount of RAM
> >> > used by a VM (64-bit hosts only) (see the manual for more information)
> >> > • CPU hot-plugging for Linux (hot-add and hot-remove) and certain
> >> > Windows guests (hot-add only) (see the manual for more information)
> >> > • New Hypervisor features: with both VT-x/AMD-V on 64-bit hosts, using
> >> > large pages can improve performance (see the manual for more
> >> > information); also, on VT-x, unrestricted guest execution is now
> >> > supported (if nested paging is enabled with VT-x, real mode and
> >> > protected mode without paging code runs faster, which mainly speeds up
> >> > guest OS booting)
> >> > • Support for deleting snapshots while the VM is running
> >> > • Support for multi-monitor guest setups in the GUI (see the manual
> >> > for more information)
> >> > • USB tablet/keyboard emulation for improved user experience if no
> >> > Guest Additions are available
> >> > • LsiLogic SAS controller emulation
> >> > • RDP video acceleration
> >> > • NAT engine configuration via API and VBoxManage
> >> > • Guest Additions: added support for executing guest applications from
> >> > the host system
> >> > • OVF: enhanced OVF support with custom namespace to preserve settings
> >> > that are not part of the base OVF standard
> >> >
> >> > http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=30287
> >> >
> >> >
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Re: VirtualBox Version 3.2.0 BETA 1 available with the name Oracle VM VirtualBox

[fenris]

bro .. nama pun beta .. thats y they needed a tester like u so u can report
back what a the lack for their new product :)

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar wrote:

> Fast result, it doesn't work on windows server 2008 x64. instant error
> on guest boot up. Poor beta quality. It should be unreleased or alpha
> or something like that before they can call it beta.
> http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=30344
>
>
>
>
> Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
> ---
> Ubuntu embedded developer/tester
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut
>
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>
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> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
>  wrote:
> > So Oracle owns VirtualBox. How do you think about this guys?
> >
> > VirtualBox Version 3.2.0 is a major update. The following major new
> > features were added:
> > • Following the acquisition of Sun Microsystems by Oracle Corporation,
> > the product is now called Oracle VM VirtualBox and all references were
> > changed without impacting compatibility.
> > • Experimental support for Mac OS X guests
> > • Memory ballooning to dynamically in- or decrease the amount of RAM
> > used by a VM (64-bit hosts only) (see the manual for more information)
> > • CPU hot-plugging for Linux (hot-add and hot-remove) and certain
> > Windows guests (hot-add only) (see the manual for more information)
> > • New Hypervisor features: with both VT-x/AMD-V on 64-bit hosts, using
> > large pages can improve performance (see the manual for more
> > information); also, on VT-x, unrestricted guest execution is now
> > supported (if nested paging is enabled with VT-x, real mode and
> > protected mode without paging code runs faster, which mainly speeds up
> > guest OS booting)
> > • Support for deleting snapshots while the VM is running
> > • Support for multi-monitor guest setups in the GUI (see the manual
> > for more information)
> > • USB tablet/keyboard emulation for improved user experience if no
> > Guest Additions are available
> > • LsiLogic SAS controller emulation
> > • RDP video acceleration
> > • NAT engine configuration via API and VBoxManage
> > • Guest Additions: added support for executing guest applications from
> > the host system
> > • OVF: enhanced OVF support with custom namespace to preserve settings
> > that are not part of the base OVF standard
> >
> > http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=30287
> >
> >
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> > ---
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Re: VirtualBox Version 3.2.0 BETA 1 available with the name Oracle VM VirtualBox

[Hasan Abu Bakar]

Solaris is also acquired  by Oracle, it's called Oracle Solaris no
more Sun Solaris. Current uname shows SunOS and I believe it will
change to OracleOS soon. But I don't think OpenSolaris will become
proprietary again.


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On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 10:20 AM, sweemeng ng  wrote:
> on the positive side, oracle didn't ask us to pay for it yet..
> consider their reputation of milking what they bought
> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar 
> wrote:
>>
>> Fast result, it doesn't work on windows server 2008 x64. instant error
>> on guest boot up. Poor beta quality. It should be unreleased or alpha
>> or something like that before they can call it beta.
>> http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=30344
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
>> ---
>> Ubuntu embedded developer/tester
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut
>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
>>  wrote:
>> > So Oracle owns VirtualBox. How do you think about this guys?
>> >
>> > VirtualBox Version 3.2.0 is a major update. The following major new
>> > features were added:
>> > • Following the acquisition of Sun Microsystems by Oracle Corporation,
>> > the product is now called Oracle VM VirtualBox and all references were
>> > changed without impacting compatibility.
>> > • Experimental support for Mac OS X guests
>> > • Memory ballooning to dynamically in- or decrease the amount of RAM
>> > used by a VM (64-bit hosts only) (see the manual for more information)
>> > • CPU hot-plugging for Linux (hot-add and hot-remove) and certain
>> > Windows guests (hot-add only) (see the manual for more information)
>> > • New Hypervisor features: with both VT-x/AMD-V on 64-bit hosts, using
>> > large pages can improve performance (see the manual for more
>> > information); also, on VT-x, unrestricted guest execution is now
>> > supported (if nested paging is enabled with VT-x, real mode and
>> > protected mode without paging code runs faster, which mainly speeds up
>> > guest OS booting)
>> > • Support for deleting snapshots while the VM is running
>> > • Support for multi-monitor guest setups in the GUI (see the manual
>> > for more information)
>> > • USB tablet/keyboard emulation for improved user experience if no
>> > Guest Additions are available
>> > • LsiLogic SAS controller emulation
>> > • RDP video acceleration
>> > • NAT engine configuration via API and VBoxManage
>> > • Guest Additions: added support for executing guest applications from
>> > the host system
>> > • OVF: enhanced OVF support with custom namespace to preserve settings
>> > that are not part of the base OVF standard
>> >
>> > http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=30287
>> >
>> >
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>> > ---
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Re: VirtualBox Version 3.2.0 BETA 1 available with the name Oracle VM VirtualBox

[sweemeng ng]

on the positive side, oracle didn't ask us to pay for it yet..
consider their reputation of milking what they bought

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar wrote:

> Fast result, it doesn't work on windows server 2008 x64. instant error
> on guest boot up. Poor beta quality. It should be unreleased or alpha
> or something like that before they can call it beta.
> http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=30344
>
>
>
>
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>
>
> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
>  wrote:
> > So Oracle owns VirtualBox. How do you think about this guys?
> >
> > VirtualBox Version 3.2.0 is a major update. The following major new
> > features were added:
> > • Following the acquisition of Sun Microsystems by Oracle Corporation,
> > the product is now called Oracle VM VirtualBox and all references were
> > changed without impacting compatibility.
> > • Experimental support for Mac OS X guests
> > • Memory ballooning to dynamically in- or decrease the amount of RAM
> > used by a VM (64-bit hosts only) (see the manual for more information)
> > • CPU hot-plugging for Linux (hot-add and hot-remove) and certain
> > Windows guests (hot-add only) (see the manual for more information)
> > • New Hypervisor features: with both VT-x/AMD-V on 64-bit hosts, using
> > large pages can improve performance (see the manual for more
> > information); also, on VT-x, unrestricted guest execution is now
> > supported (if nested paging is enabled with VT-x, real mode and
> > protected mode without paging code runs faster, which mainly speeds up
> > guest OS booting)
> > • Support for deleting snapshots while the VM is running
> > • Support for multi-monitor guest setups in the GUI (see the manual
> > for more information)
> > • USB tablet/keyboard emulation for improved user experience if no
> > Guest Additions are available
> > • LsiLogic SAS controller emulation
> > • RDP video acceleration
> > • NAT engine configuration via API and VBoxManage
> > • Guest Additions: added support for executing guest applications from
> > the host system
> > • OVF: enhanced OVF support with custom namespace to preserve settings
> > that are not part of the base OVF standard
> >
> > http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=30287
> >
> >
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[osdcmy-public] Re: VirtualBox Version 3.2.0 BETA 1 available with the name Oracle VM VirtualBox

[Hasanuddin Abu Bakar]

Fast result, it doesn't work on windows server 2008 x64. instant error
on guest boot up. Poor beta quality. It should be unreleased or alpha
or something like that before they can call it beta.
http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=30344




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On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
 wrote:
> So Oracle owns VirtualBox. How do you think about this guys?
>
> VirtualBox Version 3.2.0 is a major update. The following major new
> features were added:
> • Following the acquisition of Sun Microsystems by Oracle Corporation,
> the product is now called Oracle VM VirtualBox and all references were
> changed without impacting compatibility.
> • Experimental support for Mac OS X guests
> • Memory ballooning to dynamically in- or decrease the amount of RAM
> used by a VM (64-bit hosts only) (see the manual for more information)
> • CPU hot-plugging for Linux (hot-add and hot-remove) and certain
> Windows guests (hot-add only) (see the manual for more information)
> • New Hypervisor features: with both VT-x/AMD-V on 64-bit hosts, using
> large pages can improve performance (see the manual for more
> information); also, on VT-x, unrestricted guest execution is now
> supported (if nested paging is enabled with VT-x, real mode and
> protected mode without paging code runs faster, which mainly speeds up
> guest OS booting)
> • Support for deleting snapshots while the VM is running
> • Support for multi-monitor guest setups in the GUI (see the manual
> for more information)
> • USB tablet/keyboard emulation for improved user experience if no
> Guest Additions are available
> • LsiLogic SAS controller emulation
> • RDP video acceleration
> • NAT engine configuration via API and VBoxManage
> • Guest Additions: added support for executing guest applications from
> the host system
> • OVF: enhanced OVF support with custom namespace to preserve settings
> that are not part of the base OVF standard
>
> http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=30287
>
>
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[osdcmy-public] VirtualBox Version 3.2.0 BETA 1 available with the name Oracle VM VirtualBox

[Hasanuddin Abu Bakar]

So Oracle owns VirtualBox. How do you think about this guys?

VirtualBox Version 3.2.0 is a major update. The following major new
features were added:
• Following the acquisition of Sun Microsystems by Oracle Corporation,
the product is now called Oracle VM VirtualBox and all references were
changed without impacting compatibility.
• Experimental support for Mac OS X guests
• Memory ballooning to dynamically in- or decrease the amount of RAM
used by a VM (64-bit hosts only) (see the manual for more information)
• CPU hot-plugging for Linux (hot-add and hot-remove) and certain
Windows guests (hot-add only) (see the manual for more information)
• New Hypervisor features: with both VT-x/AMD-V on 64-bit hosts, using
large pages can improve performance (see the manual for more
information); also, on VT-x, unrestricted guest execution is now
supported (if nested paging is enabled with VT-x, real mode and
protected mode without paging code runs faster, which mainly speeds up
guest OS booting)
• Support for deleting snapshots while the VM is running
• Support for multi-monitor guest setups in the GUI (see the manual
for more information)
• USB tablet/keyboard emulation for improved user experience if no
Guest Additions are available
• LsiLogic SAS controller emulation
• RDP video acceleration
• NAT engine configuration via API and VBoxManage
• Guest Additions: added support for executing guest applications from
the host system
• OVF: enhanced OVF support with custom namespace to preserve settings
that are not part of the base OVF standard

http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=30287


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Re: [osdcmy-public] Looking for a php programmer.

[Hasan Abu Bakar]

I like to help develop the features. I will look around the modules
when I have any chance. I got a few tasks to finish at the moment. So
this offer is still up to anybody who able to deal with you. btw I
hope I can come to you very soon. Good luck bro.


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On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Mohammad Azimullah  wrote:
> Yup, i installed affilate. all the functions i want is there, but i need
> some customization work done.
> in short, this is what i need:
> 1. administrator can set who is the referrer (similar to
> e-commerce/affiliate module)
> 2. orders created by the admin can be added into the affiliate center. the
> way i understand the uc_affiliate module, only orders thru the affiliate
> link is added into the affiliate center. i want to add it manually thru
> admin.
> are you interested? its a paid job :-)
>
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>> Hi, I am fimiliar with drupal and affiliate module. There is an
>> affiliate module for ubercart, you might already know about this
>> http://drupal.org/project/uc_affiliate2
>>
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>> http://drupal.org/project/issues/uc_affiliate2
>>
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>> > Hi all,
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Looking for a php programmer.

[Mohammad Azimullah]

Yup, i installed affilate. all the functions i want is there, but i need
some customization work done.
in short, this is what i need:
1. administrator can set who is the referrer (similar to
e-commerce/affiliate module)
2. orders created by the admin can be added into the affiliate center. the
way i understand the uc_affiliate module, only orders thru the affiliate
link is added into the affiliate center. i want to add it manually thru
admin.
are you interested? its a paid job :-)

On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Hasan Abu Bakar  wrote:

> Hi, I am fimiliar with drupal and affiliate module. There is an
> affiliate module for ubercart, you might already know about this
> http://drupal.org/project/uc_affiliate2
>
> so you might want to propose your idea here
> http://drupal.org/project/issues/uc_affiliate2
>
> or are you really want a discrete solution?
>
>
> Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
> ---
> Ubuntu embedded developer/tester
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut
>
> Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org
>
> PGP Public Key
> http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xC5A1B11965D43C5C
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Mohammad Azimullah 
> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > Im looking for a php programmer to modify a drupal module.
> > The module im looking to modify is ubercart with affiliate v2.
> > Im trying to build a system that can track and calculate commissions for
> a
> > mlm company.
> > Is anyone interested?
> >
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