Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server
sorry, I wrote this some time back, but it got stuck in my outbox, or rather drafts... but the arguments are still valid. BTW, in yesterdays TheStar, Idris Jala head of PEMANDU came out with a full 2-page 'expalnation' for the 1Malaysia email... more updates on triCubes http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/4/22/business/8530788sec=business There are comments made by Pemandu Director: Dr Fadhlullah Suhaimi Abdul Malek which is 'interesting' and deserve some comments... quote For example, the Road Transport Department sends out (via snail mail) about two million summonses and notifications yearly that cost them about RM1 just to send out and another RM1 if the receiver replied. Tricubes offers 50 sen for the transaction. Just imagine how much of taxpayers' money we can save. But the agencies have the right to decline the services offered,” /quote ...50c that's a healthy profit considering the cost of pushing bits down the wire is next to nothing... comparing to transporting pieces of paper. Obviously the party that loses out will be Pos Malaysia (PM). But then again, if the costs/revenue goes to PM, since its tax-payers money, it stays within the gov. and goes to pay salaries for civil servants etc... With Tricubes, it goes into private sector pockets... why should my tax dollars do that? Is Tricubes gonna grow the industry? Well this deal certainly saved their butt with the Stock Exchange! quote Tricubes is the only company that is publicly listed and our evaluation team has a set of criteria based on techonology, know- how and past performance,” he said. /quote Hmm, technology? Tricubes from what I can gather has little knowhow on managing large servers and services. Their core business is on mobile terminals (with smart card readers etc...), and they have a USB device that reads fingerprints, ... So maybe that's why they 'outsource' to MS Hotmail As Marcus, from InternetNow mentioned, they have a made in Malaysia Mail Server, that can compete against the likes of MS Xchange, but they were not called to tender?! So to say Technology was a criteria for the decision by PEMANDU is definitely a bit of a stretch... from my perspective, or for the average person on this list. quote The main difference is that your identity data is authenticated by the (NRD)National Registration Department that will give accurate information on the email. This is actually good for advertisers that usually rely on gender and age group to promote specific products,” he said, adding that personal data of the users, as usual, would be protected by Personal Data Protection Act. /quote If this is the case, does it mean that other service providers can also use NRD to provide authentification service? As NRD is a gov. agency, it should provide equal services to all parties, no? Off course subject to the regulations etc... And if NRD is not providing this as a service, perhaps they should! The second para is a bit worrying... does it mean that Tricubes will use or resell our NRD data! Are we gonna get spam from TriCubes? There was also a few issues raised in earlier posts which are very relevant: Colin Charles mentioned..., yes there is a need for a national Digital ID service (but Tricubes in all their announcements never positioned themselves this way), ie: a Malaysian OpenID service and the like. This will prevent fraud, provide authentification ad authorisation for eGov and other online services, a boon to eCommerce etc... BUT there is no mention that Tricubes is doing this. If there is to be a National Digital ID service, then the obvious party to do this would be the National Registration Department, after all they are the ones that issue our NRIC cards! And if anyone were to do this, there is no need to spend 10's millions to develop new technology, the OpenID foundation provides the protocol standards and libraries to do this... just build on them. And they are keen to work with governments. On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 1:02 AM, E A Faisal eafai...@gmail.com wrote: My concern is the phrase secure communication with the government. The MX record clearly shows it points to the data center in the US. From national security standpoint, this is very so insecure. On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: yes, i believe the article has highlighted a very important opportunity moving forward - the implementation of cyber id authentication for malaysia. imagine the potential - register once and use the id to access all the participating govt agencies (no need to register). example : dbkl / tnb / ptptn send me my bill / statement through the email. in the statement there is a button Bayar, and when i click on it, my browser displays the login page for the agency, i login with myemail.my id and password, then can pay for the bill. that will save me and the
Re: [osdcmy] lady gaga uses ubuntu ?
Mcm biasa tuan .. ubuntu fans suka gedik2 .. Segedik sang Gaga ahakss ... Regards, e1 Sent from GreenBerry®Mobile -Original Message- From: saiful akusai...@gmail.com Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 17:04:45 To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [osdcmy] lady gaga uses ubuntu ? fake pic je tu, scale ubuntu logo x kena dengan notebook dari segi scala dan bayang On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.comwrote: opppsss.. sorry. i think it was an april fool's prank On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 4:30 PM, ta...@sabily.my wrote: Huh.. Lady Ubuntu. Haha Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile. -- *From: * Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com *Sender: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *Date: *Fri, 6 May 2011 16:26:21 +0800 *To: *osdcmy-listosdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *Subject: *[osdcmy] lady gaga uses ubuntu ? is this for real ? comments from the ubuntu community ? http://www.junauza.com/2011/04/lady-gaga-goes-gaga-over-ubuntu.html -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- When there are Thousand of People go against you and only one at your side, trust me, I'm the one - akusaiful. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] lady gaga uses ubuntu ?
tu la gedik dengan Kubuntu. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile. -Original Message- From: Mohd Hidzuan Zainul Hashim hidz...@gmail.com Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 06:28:51 To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [osdcmy] lady gaga uses ubuntu ? Mcm biasa tuan .. ubuntu fans suka gedik2 .. Segedik sang Gaga ahakss ... Regards, e1 Sent from GreenBerry®Mobile -Original Message- From: saiful akusai...@gmail.com Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 17:04:45 To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [osdcmy] lady gaga uses ubuntu ? fake pic je tu, scale ubuntu logo x kena dengan notebook dari segi scala dan bayang On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.comwrote: opppsss.. sorry. i think it was an april fool's prank On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 4:30 PM, ta...@sabily.my wrote: Huh.. Lady Ubuntu. Haha Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile. -- *From: * Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com *Sender: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *Date: *Fri, 6 May 2011 16:26:21 +0800 *To: *osdcmy-listosdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *Subject: *[osdcmy] lady gaga uses ubuntu ? is this for real ? comments from the ubuntu community ? http://www.junauza.com/2011/04/lady-gaga-goes-gaga-over-ubuntu.html -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- When there are Thousand of People go against you and only one at your side, trust me, I'm the one - akusaiful. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server
Dear Mr Pemandu Director, sir, are you on crack or somethin'? On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote: sorry, I wrote this some time back, but it got stuck in my outbox, or rather drafts... but the arguments are still valid. BTW, in yesterdays TheStar, Idris Jala head of PEMANDU came out with a full 2-page 'expalnation' for the 1Malaysia email... more updates on triCubes http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/4/22/business/8530788sec=business There are comments made by Pemandu Director: Dr Fadhlullah Suhaimi Abdul Malek which is 'interesting' and deserve some comments... quote For example, the Road Transport Department sends out (via snail mail) about two million summonses and notifications yearly that cost them about RM1 just to send out and another RM1 if the receiver replied. Tricubes offers 50 sen for the transaction. Just imagine how much of taxpayers' money we can save. But the agencies have the right to decline the services offered,” /quote ...50c that's a healthy profit considering the cost of pushing bits down the wire is next to nothing... comparing to transporting pieces of paper. Obviously the party that loses out will be Pos Malaysia (PM). But then again, if the costs/revenue goes to PM, since its tax-payers money, it stays within the gov. and goes to pay salaries for civil servants etc... With Tricubes, it goes into private sector pockets... why should my tax dollars do that? Is Tricubes gonna grow the industry? Well this deal certainly saved their butt with the Stock Exchange! quote Tricubes is the only company that is publicly listed and our evaluation team has a set of criteria based on techonology, know- how and past performance,” he said. /quote Hmm, technology? Tricubes from what I can gather has little knowhow on managing large servers and services. Their core business is on mobile terminals (with smart card readers etc...), and they have a USB device that reads fingerprints, ... So maybe that's why they 'outsource' to MS Hotmail As Marcus, from InternetNow mentioned, they have a made in Malaysia Mail Server, that can compete against the likes of MS Xchange, but they were not called to tender?! So to say Technology was a criteria for the decision by PEMANDU is definitely a bit of a stretch... from my perspective, or for the average person on this list. quote The main difference is that your identity data is authenticated by the (NRD)National Registration Department that will give accurate information on the email. This is actually good for advertisers that usually rely on gender and age group to promote specific products,” he said, adding that personal data of the users, as usual, would be protected by Personal Data Protection Act. /quote If this is the case, does it mean that other service providers can also use NRD to provide authentification service? As NRD is a gov. agency, it should provide equal services to all parties, no? Off course subject to the regulations etc... And if NRD is not providing this as a service, perhaps they should! The second para is a bit worrying... does it mean that Tricubes will use or resell our NRD data! Are we gonna get spam from TriCubes? There was also a few issues raised in earlier posts which are very relevant: Colin Charles mentioned..., yes there is a need for a national Digital ID service (but Tricubes in all their announcements never positioned themselves this way), ie: a Malaysian OpenID service and the like. This will prevent fraud, provide authentification ad authorisation for eGov and other online services, a boon to eCommerce etc... BUT there is no mention that Tricubes is doing this. If there is to be a National Digital ID service, then the obvious party to do this would be the National Registration Department, after all they are the ones that issue our NRIC cards! And if anyone were to do this, there is no need to spend 10's millions to develop new technology, the OpenID foundation provides the protocol standards and libraries to do this... just build on them. And they are keen to work with governments. On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 1:02 AM, E A Faisal eafai...@gmail.com wrote: My concern is the phrase secure communication with the government. The MX record clearly shows it points to the data center in the US. From national security standpoint, this is very so insecure. On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: yes, i believe the article has highlighted a very important opportunity moving forward - the implementation of cyber id authentication for malaysia. imagine the potential - register once and use the id to access all the participating govt agencies (no need to register). example : dbkl / tnb / ptptn send me my bill / statement through the email. in the
[osdcmy] OSDC.my Pitch
Hi all, Some time back I floated the idea that we needed to get our act together to present a OSDC.my as a knowledgeable and articulate group. The branding exercise is a good move, but how many of us can answer in an effective and coherent way when someone asks, What is OSDC.my and what does it do?. This is important as we grow from more than just a group of socially awkward and acerbic geeks into an organisation that can be a source of smart, capable and effective FOSS professionals in turn can be fed into the FOSS needs of the market. It will be catastrophic if we cannot even be articulate in making a case of, What is OSDC.my?. Thus we can forget about being taken seriously, much less be considered for sponsorship. The About page at http://202.190.177.148/about gives an excellent introduction of OSDC.my. Since we are looking at making it, may we consider changing the word Club to maybe Committee? (or something better? Any ideas?). Tun Mahathir may have launched a Club, isn't it about time we grow to something better? A club, unless you are Man Utd, Liverpool or Arsenal, doesn't carry the same weight of being a serious player for talents nor someplace I will go for paid professionals. It doesn't help if the general perception of FOSS is free as in teh-o ais limau kurang manis(!) and in come a FOSS club?! Simple said you want the $$$ the word club may not be suitable. It is time for us to grow from geeks who gets boners playing with FOSS to people who are articulate, professional and radiates confidence and positive energy. So perhaps I can humbly put forward my suggested pitch to answer What is OSDC.my? Here we go, my 3 -minute pitch: *The Malaysian Open Source Development Club is a non-governmental grassroot movement by concerned Malaysians to bring together the best FOSS talents in Malaysia to work and share our talents in making FOSS a compelling computing platform for all Malaysians. We believe that FOSS is a great opportunity equaliser, greatly lowers the entrance barriers for businesses and allows us to be more competitive to easily and legally share the fruits of our labour with the world. OSDC.my aims to be a one-stop reference for all FOSS talents, references and coordinate all efforts to promote FOSS in Malaysia. * Please do comment constructively. Time is fast approaching MOSC 2011. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] OSDC.my Pitch
I agree with changing the word club to committee. In fact, this is the word I used when I told ppl about OSDC, and I almost forget the C, is actually club. Anyway, changing the C to Committee can in fact build the public confidence on us. For an example, the MOSC, sponsors will be more willing to channel a huge amount of money into the event if it is organized by a committee of IT professionals rather than channeling the money into a Club which giving them an impression that Club is something like a group of professionals hang around for leisure during free time only. So it would strongly agree with the changes of the word C. -- *GarfieldWTF http://garfield.in* Debian User Community (Malaysia) *http://debmal.my* - *CS Squad VPS Hosting http://cart.cs-squad.net/cart.php?gid=1* -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server
Boh, thanks for the link, which i can see: "Tricubes shares soar on news it will be working with Microsoft" Now that pops the spiritual question - Is that not what we all care about? It is making money legally. With FOSS you cannot make that kind of money. Give it up guys. I mean look at the pathetic of us here, without dough, swimming among sharks, just got our lifebelts yanked (MDec financial support) and the heli did not show up (RM10m promise from MDec) and still lots of borang-borang to fill up while kicking hard in the water (to get tidbits from the so called RM10m). But the final laugh should come while you get 'lucky' and called up by MOSTI to defend your proposal with the question, "Can you idea beat Tricubes idea of working with MS and become commercially viable?" Side-note to Raja: "Is the above the kind of rant you wished for?" Side-note to Rafe: "Just having fun on a Sunday morning cos i aint going to church. :)" On 5/8/11 12:47 AM, E A Faisal wrote: Dear Mr Pemandu Director, sir, are you on crack or somethin'? On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote: sorry, I wrote this some time back, but it got stuck in my outbox, or rather drafts... but the arguments are still valid. BTW, in yesterdays TheStar, Idris Jala head of PEMANDU came out with a full 2-page 'expalnation' for the 1Malaysia email... more updates on triCubes http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/4/22/business/8530788sec=business -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] OSDC.my Pitch
With due respect i don't see the point in name meaning in helping to get money (but i agree with Eric's earlier branding strategy). AFAIK money respects one and only one rule, How fast can we get our money back?, meaning viability of your business plan, meaning paperwork, paperwork, paperwork. After that, screaming, screaming, screaming - to defend your paper of course in front of a few goofballs who has no idea of anything before the dollar sign. On 5/8/11 8:19 AM, Garfield WTF wrote: I agree with changing the word club to committee. In fact, this is the word I used when I told ppl about OSDC, and I almost forget the C, is actually club. Anyway, changing the C to Committee can in fact build the public confidence on us. For an example, the MOSC, sponsors will be more willing to channel a huge amount of money into the event if it is organized by a committee of IT professionals rather than channeling the money into a Club which giving them an impression that Club is something like a group of professionals hang around for leisure during free time only. So it would strongly agree with the changes of the word C. -- -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server
Frankly, This project will go ahead, its going to be implemented. Why? Berdasarkan pandangan saya daripada pelbagai perkara yang berlaku ianya dipertahankan dengan begitu sekali. Kenyataan akhbar, press conference and such. Projek ini ada banyak kepentingan non ICT untuk ia dihentikan... (politik dan ) So ? Banyak mana pun kita ngomel, kritik, email, kutuk, bantah, maki, *%$ and many more words. Its waste our time . Then? Kita semua nanti perlu juga gunakan sebab, saman polis dan JPA akan hanya melalui thats email. Tidak lagi pos. Next? Back to our main issue. We need a big and branded company like Microsoft. Lets discuss how. How?? On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 8:41 AM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: Boh, thanks for the link, which i can see: Tricubes shares soar on news it will be working with Microsoft Now that pops the spiritual question - Is that not what we all care about? It is making money legally. With FOSS you cannot make that kind of money. Give it up guys. I mean look at the pathetic of us here, without dough, swimming among sharks, just got our lifebelts yanked (MDec financial support) and the heli did not show up (RM10m promise from MDec) and still lots of borang-borang to fill up while kicking hard in the water (to get tidbits from the so called RM10m). But the final laugh should come while you get 'lucky' and called up by MOSTI to defend your proposal with the question, Can you idea beat Tricubes idea of working with MS and become commercially viable? Side-note to Raja: Is the above the kind of rant you wished for? Side-note to Rafe: Just having fun on a Sunday morning cos i aint going to church. :) On 5/8/11 12:47 AM, E A Faisal wrote: Dear Mr Pemandu Director, sir, are you on crack or somethin'? On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote: sorry, I wrote this some time back, but it got stuck in my outbox, or rather drafts... but the arguments are still valid. BTW, in yesterdays TheStar, Idris Jala head of PEMANDU came out with a full 2-page 'expalnation' for the 1Malaysia email... more updates on triCubes http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/4/22/business/8530788sec=business -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server
@Red1, I believe most of us here, dunno the skill of: U bagi ni tender kat I, I charge RM50M, RM40M ko punye. LOL And by the way, It seems like even M$ don't know there is such deals going on. Or else, they will be using this to advertise them self around. I smell something more fishy behind this Tricubes project. --- To the other ppl, And at here, I would like to express out my thoughts about the KOSTEM mailing list. I'm sure a lot of you already realize this and never though of wanted to voice it out. As usual, I become the basher again. Do you agree that there are too much noise in the mailing list of KOSTEM which caused most of us who want to build up the Co-Op company to be delayed for so long? Do you agree that most replies in the KOSTEM mailing list, are actually not any useful input, rather, they are just some 'hoohah' kind of response? I believe more than 50% of the replies are such kind of replies in the mailing list. Do you agree that majority of the people who reply in the mailing list, never showed up during our 1st meeting and just tumpang in the mailing list for cheer only? Well, if you answer these questions yourself, I believe you'll understand why there is not much replies from people who really wanted to build up this co-op company. Because of too much noise in the mailing list until we missed those useful input in the mailing list to make necessary response. Anyway, attack me as usual, this is not something new to me for getting attack anyway. :P _ || || |\___/| | | | | | | | | | | | | _|---|_ / | | \ /| | | | \ || | | | | || | | | | | | | | | | |/ | / \/ \ / | | | | -- *GarfieldWTF http://garfield.in* Debian User Community (Malaysia) *http://debmal.my* - *CS Squad VPS Hosting http://cart.cs-squad.net/cart.php?gid=1* -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] OSDC.my Pitch
Actually what I mean is, the word Committee is better in terms of business than the word Club Mau sapu 50M also easier. :P -- *GarfieldWTF http://garfield.in* Debian User Community (Malaysia) *http://debmal.my* - *CS Squad VPS Hosting http://cart.cs-squad.net/cart.php?gid=1* -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server
Some error on my previous reply. Change the 50% to 40%, as there is less noise nowadays in the KOSTEM mailing list already. -- *GarfieldWTF http://garfield.in* Debian User Community (Malaysia) *http://debmal.my* - *CS Squad VPS Hosting http://cart.cs-squad.net/cart.php?gid=1* -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server
Yeah, it is very fortunate to have the KOSTEM Dalaman mailing list where core discussion without contamination can be read peacefully. -- *GarfieldWTF http://garfield.in* Debian User Community (Malaysia) *http://debmal.my* - *CS Squad VPS Hosting http://cart.cs-squad.net/cart.php?gid=1* -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server
Awal pagi tadi dah siapkan artikel tentang KOSTEM di blog Melayubuntu (beliau bagi kebenaran nak menulis dalam blognya). Tapi tak up lagi.. Hehe.. Biasalah, bertamu kat tempat orang... Jadi berjaga-jaga untuk dapat trafik tinggi pasal KOSTEM. Muahahaha!!! 2011/5/8 Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com @Garfield Salah U bagi ni tender kat I, I charge RM50M, RM1M ko punye. Cukup? KOSTEM Luckly we have mailing KOSTEM Dalaman. I do agree with you but this things in any activities we do have macam ni. Bising2. Tak boleh nak buat apa. I always look into the silver line of things. Lets them email and give opinions, to create the awareness and keep the interest going. We are the one the sufferer will do the filtering and lets we keep on excute it. Lama-lama nanti adalah yang join in. We need another 25 people with address KL/Selangor. Ini sahaja halang kita untuk pergi daftar. Back to 1Malaysia email On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Garfield WTF garfi...@debmal.my wrote: @Red1, I believe most of us here, dunno the skill of: U bagi ni tender kat I, I charge RM50M, RM40M ko punye. LOL And by the way, It seems like even M$ don't know there is such deals going on. Or else, they will be using this to advertise them self around. I smell something more fishy behind this Tricubes project. --- To the other ppl, And at here, I would like to express out my thoughts about the KOSTEM mailing list. I'm sure a lot of you already realize this and never though of wanted to voice it out. As usual, I become the basher again. Do you agree that there are too much noise in the mailing list of KOSTEM which caused most of us who want to build up the Co-Op company to be delayed for so long? Do you agree that most replies in the KOSTEM mailing list, are actually not any useful input, rather, they are just some 'hoohah' kind of response? I believe more than 50% of the replies are such kind of replies in the mailing list. Do you agree that majority of the people who reply in the mailing list, never showed up during our 1st meeting and just tumpang in the mailing list for cheer only? Well, if you answer these questions yourself, I believe you'll understand why there is not much replies from people who really wanted to build up this co-op company. Because of too much noise in the mailing list until we missed those useful input in the mailing list to make necessary response. Anyway, attack me as usual, this is not something new to me for getting attack anyway. :P _ || || |\___/| | | | | | | | | | | | | _|---|_ / | | \ /| | | | \ || | | | | || | | | | | | | | | | |/ | / \/ \ / | | | | -- GarfieldWTF Debian User Community (Malaysia) http://debmal.my - CS Squad VPS Hosting -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- Malaysia Open Source Software Conference 2011 MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 http://www.mosc.my/ LinuxMalaysia Network http://www.facebook.com/Bukan.Sekadar.Internet.Sahaja Harisfazillah Jamel -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- Aku Tetap Aku™ http://maklan.blogspot.com/ https://launchpad.net/~maklanx http://www.facebook.com/mohamadimranishak -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] OSDC.my Pitch
Let us not go there mate... :) Eric On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Garfield WTF garfi...@debmal.my wrote: Actually what I mean is, the word Committee is better in terms of business than the word Club Mau sapu 50M also easier. :P -- *GarfieldWTF http://garfield.in* Debian User Community (Malaysia) *http://debmal.my* - *CS Squad VPS Hosting http://cart.cs-squad.net/cart.php?gid=1* -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] OSDC.my Pitch
Red, While I agree the name change may seem trivial when looking at the grand scheme of things; however, an identity change may set the right frame of mind to get going in the right direction. As I have said, I am floating around ideas. I think OSDC.my can be the lynch-pin for FOSS activities in the country, but first we need to what we stand for and how would we position the brand. Is it a geeks only club or are we to project an image that is more business friendly? Business friendly is synonymous with getting more mulla in our coffers. It is also means we will not be treated as an after thought when it comes to FOSS. As I have mentioned in another thread, I am willing to work on this branding exercise. So far nobody has stepped forward to assist or to begin the branding suggestion. So once again; who is willing to help? Enough of talk already. It's time to get off our collective fat asses and get something moving. Eric On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 8:55 AM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: With due respect i don't see the point in name meaning in helping to get money (but i agree with Eric's earlier branding strategy). AFAIK money respects one and only one rule, How fast can we get our money back?, meaning viability of your business plan, meaning paperwork, paperwork, paperwork. After that, screaming, screaming, screaming - to defend your paper of course in front of a few goofballs who has no idea of anything before the dollar sign. On 5/8/11 8:19 AM, Garfield WTF wrote: I agree with changing the word club to committee. In fact, this is the word I used when I told ppl about OSDC, and I almost forget the C, is actually club. Anyway, changing the C to Committee can in fact build the public confidence on us. For an example, the MOSC, sponsors will be more willing to channel a huge amount of money into the event if it is organized by a committee of IT professionals rather than channeling the money into a Club which giving them an impression that Club is something like a group of professionals hang around for leisure during free time only. So it would strongly agree with the changes of the word C. -- -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server
It's that with all the supposed brain cells in the RD divisions in the Gvt; nobody is willing to take ownership of being the first to make a usable and practical cloud for the Public Sector. MIMOS, can forget abt them. It's more of a playground that wastes the tax payers' money. MOSTI? The whole lot of them are politicians; they should consider taking out the I in their acronym since they hardly do anything innovative that is visible and viable. In short, doing a cloud infra entails a lot of work but no clear path for the many bureaucrats to upgrade to a higher salary scale. Malaysia Boleh. On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 3:01 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Thinking of its, its possible to make data in MY by cloud computing. Private cloud still need infra. Imaging thousand of government servers in the cloud. On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 2:35 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: MAMPU was so adamant that Gomen data must reside in MY. Now they are all just quiet coz the PM has already announced this initiative. Morons! Eric On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 1:02 AM, E A Faisal eafai...@gmail.com wrote: My concern is the phrase secure communication with the government. The MX record clearly shows it points to the data center in the US. From national security standpoint, this is very so insecure. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] OSDC.my Pitch
Perkataan comittee nampak lebih sesuai dari club. Contohnya, Kelab Penyokong Umno. Dia hanya menyokong saja. Tiada pembaharuan atau inovasi dilakukan. Kalau Committee, ia adalah penggerak dan pencetus inovasi. Saya setuju dengan idea tu. Dan juga ia adalah pemberi syarat kepada osdc.my untuk bukan hanya penyokong, tapi pencetus inovasi dan setiap ahli yang menyertai osdc.my, bukan terdiri dari penyokong sahaja, malah adalah pencetus kepada revolusi, penyumbang kepada OSS dan penyokong adalah secara automatik. Tidak kira apa mereke sumbangkan. Cadangan saya yang kecil ini. P.s : Mr Eric, saya bukan ah long, tapi saya nak tolong ;) Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile. -Original Message- From: Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 10:42:55 To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [osdcmy] OSDC.my Pitch Red, While I agree the name change may seem trivial when looking at the grand scheme of things; however, an identity change may set the right frame of mind to get going in the right direction. As I have said, I am floating around ideas. I think OSDC.my can be the lynch-pin for FOSS activities in the country, but first we need to what we stand for and how would we position the brand. Is it a geeks only club or are we to project an image that is more business friendly? Business friendly is synonymous with getting more mulla in our coffers. It is also means we will not be treated as an after thought when it comes to FOSS. As I have mentioned in another thread, I am willing to work on this branding exercise. So far nobody has stepped forward to assist or to begin the branding suggestion. So once again; who is willing to help? Enough of talk already. It's time to get off our collective fat asses and get something moving. Eric On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 8:55 AM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: With due respect i don't see the point in name meaning in helping to get money (but i agree with Eric's earlier branding strategy). AFAIK money respects one and only one rule, How fast can we get our money back?, meaning viability of your business plan, meaning paperwork, paperwork, paperwork. After that, screaming, screaming, screaming - to defend your paper of course in front of a few goofballs who has no idea of anything before the dollar sign. On 5/8/11 8:19 AM, Garfield WTF wrote: I agree with changing the word club to committee. In fact, this is the word I used when I told ppl about OSDC, and I almost forget the C, is actually club. Anyway, changing the C to Committee can in fact build the public confidence on us. For an example, the MOSC, sponsors will be more willing to channel a huge amount of money into the event if it is organized by a committee of IT professionals rather than channeling the money into a Club which giving them an impression that Club is something like a group of professionals hang around for leisure during free time only. So it would strongly agree with the changes of the word C. -- -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server
action speak lauder than words..baik buat keje sampai habis je dulu On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: It's that with all the supposed brain cells in the RD divisions in the Gvt; nobody is willing to take ownership of being the first to make a usable and practical cloud for the Public Sector. MIMOS, can forget abt them. It's more of a playground that wastes the tax payers' money. MOSTI? The whole lot of them are politicians; they should consider taking out the I in their acronym since they hardly do anything innovative that is visible and viable. In short, doing a cloud infra entails a lot of work but no clear path for the many bureaucrats to upgrade to a higher salary scale. Malaysia Boleh. On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 3:01 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Thinking of its, its possible to make data in MY by cloud computing. Private cloud still need infra. Imaging thousand of government servers in the cloud. On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 2:35 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: MAMPU was so adamant that Gomen data must reside in MY. Now they are all just quiet coz the PM has already announced this initiative. Morons! Eric On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 1:02 AM, E A Faisal eafai...@gmail.com wrote: My concern is the phrase secure communication with the government. The MX record clearly shows it points to the data center in the US. From national security standpoint, this is very so insecure. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- Muhd Syazwan @ jipang_menjerit http://about.me/syazwan/bio http://blog.ubuntuseekers.com http://blog.syazwan.co.cc jipangmenje...@gmail.com jipang_menje...@ubuntuseekers.com One Online Radio :: Radio yang Suka Bercakap http://radio.syazwan.co.cc -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server
On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com wrote: action speak lauder than words..baik buat keje sampai habis je dulu *louder :p On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: It's that with all the supposed brain cells in the RD divisions in the Gvt; nobody is willing to take ownership of being the first to make a usable and practical cloud for the Public Sector. MIMOS, can forget abt them. It's more of a playground that wastes the tax payers' money. MOSTI? The whole lot of them are politicians; they should consider taking out the I in their acronym since they hardly do anything innovative that is visible and viable. In short, doing a cloud infra entails a lot of work but no clear path for the many bureaucrats to upgrade to a higher salary scale. Malaysia Boleh. On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 3:01 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Thinking of its, its possible to make data in MY by cloud computing. Private cloud still need infra. Imaging thousand of government servers in the cloud. On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 2:35 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: MAMPU was so adamant that Gomen data must reside in MY. Now they are all just quiet coz the PM has already announced this initiative. Morons! Eric On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 1:02 AM, E A Faisal eafai...@gmail.com wrote: My concern is the phrase secure communication with the government. The MX record clearly shows it points to the data center in the US. From national security standpoint, this is very so insecure. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- Muhd Syazwan @ jipang_menjerit http://about.me/syazwan/bio http://blog.ubuntuseekers.com http://blog.syazwan.co.cc jipangmenje...@gmail.com jipang_menje...@ubuntuseekers.com One Online Radio :: Radio yang Suka Bercakap http://radio.syazwan.co.cc -- Muhd Syazwan @ jipang_menjerit http://about.me/syazwan/bio http://blog.ubuntuseekers.com http://blog.syazwan.co.cc jipangmenje...@gmail.com jipang_menje...@ubuntuseekers.com One Online Radio :: Radio yang Suka Bercakap http://radio.syazwan.co.cc -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server
Hi, I also am against the goverment giving free contract to tricubes for this project.furthermore with that such amount i believe malaysian can do it rather than subcontracting it to microsoft. However, MOSTI has assigned CyberSecurity Malaysia to look into the security part of. I'm still not sure what is the task as the meeting was initial meeting was done last week. I believe i can voice out this issue of the mx being pointed outside of malaysia. I too against tricubes getting the wholesome of money and fyi, MOSTI was not in the loop of the email propaganda..haha. So lets voice out the incapabilities of this project!! Sent from my iPhone On 08/05/2011, at 10:47, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: It's that with all the supposed brain cells in the RD divisions in the Gvt; nobody is willing to take ownership of being the first to make a usable and practical cloud for the Public Sector. MIMOS, can forget abt them. It's more of a playground that wastes the tax payers' money. MOSTI? The whole lot of them are politicians; they should consider taking out the I in their acronym since they hardly do anything innovative that is visible and viable. In short, doing a cloud infra entails a lot of work but no clear path for the many bureaucrats to upgrade to a higher salary scale. Malaysia Boleh. On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 3:01 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Thinking of its, its possible to make data in MY by cloud computing. Private cloud still need infra. Imaging thousand of government servers in the cloud. On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 2:35 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: MAMPU was so adamant that Gomen data must reside in MY. Now they are all just quiet coz the PM has already announced this initiative. Morons! Eric On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 1:02 AM, E A Faisal eafai...@gmail.com wrote: My concern is the phrase secure communication with the government. The MX record clearly shows it points to the data center in the US. From national security standpoint, this is very so insecure. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] OSDC.my Pitch
OK Eric Im in -- As I have mentioned in another thread, I am willing to work on this branding exercise. So far nobody has stepped forward to assist or to begin the branding suggestion. So once again; who is willing to help? Enough of talk already. It's time to get off our collective fat asses and get something moving. - Lets start with outline what we need to do :- The work :- 1) Copyright and Trademark need to take into consideration. We need from day 0 take good care of this so nobody can claim what we have discuss here is theirs. We don't have legal entity, we need to trust someone. - A company with a agreement. Kat Malaysia ni Foundation mahal... 2) Branding need things thats visual and can be used by others. Apogee wiling to produce the logo and things. But he need feedback from us. Another issues we need to disscuss is, under what legal protection we want to protect all the logo and things. - CCC or Free Art License??? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Art_license 3) For OSDC.my lets as it is at this moment. Scope OSDC.my asal sudah lari. Its suppose for developers but due to our community is still small, all rojak here. But I believe and agree we need to expand ourself. For the whole OSS community, we need to have our own naming and branding. We already have FOSS list and all the faculties like mailing list and web already provided by our friends. Lets the coordination involved all communities and projects. HackerspaceKL already provide us with a place for meetup and activities. Due to limited resources like money and time, we need to use what we already have. I see the way but still to iron up one important issue. Coordination between us. Nanti sambung ... On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: Red, While I agree the name change may seem trivial when looking at the grand scheme of things; however, an identity change may set the right frame of mind to get going in the right direction. As I have said, I am floating around ideas. I think OSDC.my can be the lynch-pin for FOSS activities in the country, but first we need to what we stand for and how would we position the brand. Is it a geeks only club or are we to project an image that is more business friendly? Business friendly is synonymous with getting more mulla in our coffers. It is also means we will not be treated as an after thought when it comes to FOSS. As I have mentioned in another thread, I am willing to work on this branding exercise. So far nobody has stepped forward to assist or to begin the branding suggestion. So once again; who is willing to help? Enough of talk already. It's time to get off our collective fat asses and get something moving. Eric On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 8:55 AM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: With due respect i don't see the point in name meaning in helping to get money (but i agree with Eric's earlier branding strategy). AFAIK money respects one and only one rule, How fast can we get our money back?, meaning viability of your business plan, meaning paperwork, paperwork, paperwork. After that, screaming, screaming, screaming - to defend your paper of course in front of a few goofballs who has no idea of anything before the dollar sign. On 5/8/11 8:19 AM, Garfield WTF wrote: I agree with changing the word club to committee. In fact, this is the word I used when I told ppl about OSDC, and I almost forget the C, is actually club. Anyway, changing the C to Committee can in fact build the public confidence on us. For an example, the MOSC, sponsors will be more willing to channel a huge amount of money into the event if it is organized by a committee of IT professionals rather than channeling the money into a Club which giving them an impression that Club is something like a group of professionals hang around for leisure during free time only. So it would strongly agree with the changes of the word C. -- -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server
Team, My advice, if we know things that may be protected by OSA, please keep its to ourself. This mailing list is public. Tak bagus untuk kesihatan. :) Lets put this discussion on how we can improved the proposal for the better of rakyat, technically. May be, may be what we write will get to them and they review the plan. :p Or ... Later as community we will build that system ourself. Hehehe... FYI KK-LUG in discussion to build private cloud for their own community RnD. Nice.. Keep up.. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] OSDC.my Pitch
My reply to Harris: 1 2. For our logo and branding, I think it is safer to register is as Trade Mark. This can actually avoid some certain parties from using our logo to do something else without acknowledge us, which it could lead to dangerous situation. 3. I believe the OSDC scope still not really lari yet, because our initiative, does bring up a lot of new developers. Without knowing, we are actually brought up a lot of new users started to become developers. -- *GarfieldWTF http://garfield.in* Debian User Community (Malaysia) *http://debmal.my* - *CS Squad VPS Hosting http://cart.cs-squad.net/cart.php?gid=1* -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] OSDC.my Pitch
@Eric, As you know, I will join you in your effort. Just let us all know what we need to do, then I shall try my best to assist you. -- *GarfieldWTF http://garfield.in* Debian User Community (Malaysia) *http://debmal.my* - *CS Squad VPS Hosting http://cart.cs-squad.net/cart.php?gid=1* -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] OSDC.my Pitch
For copyright and branding issues we can consult with MyIPO: http://www.myipo.gov.my/ http://www.myipo.gov.my/en/about-myipo/functions-and-services/trademark.html 2011/5/8, Garfield WTF garfi...@debmal.my: @Eric, As you know, I will join you in your effort. Just let us all know what we need to do, then I shall try my best to assist you. -- *GarfieldWTF http://garfield.in* Debian User Community (Malaysia) *http://debmal.my* - *CS Squad VPS Hosting http://cart.cs-squad.net/cart.php?gid=1* -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- Aku Tetap Aku™ http://maklan.blogspot.com/ https://launchpad.net/~maklanx http://www.facebook.com/mohamadimranishak -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server
Many years ago, during the PRU9, an anonymous policeman spoke to me commenting about these opposition movement trying to topple the present government. The comment was along these lines - Why bother at all being so active in the opposition, the present government will surely be gone in 20 years time! It'll be replaced! I have no answer to that policeman's comment back then. Long I ponder the meaning of those words and I've arrived at the answer - It may surely change and the prediction on the date may be spot-on, give or take a year or so (It is approaching 20 years since PRU9!), *BUT* we cannot leave things be. Tricubes silly email proposal may look inevitable. That does not warrant them to be given a free ride. The people, especially the ICT community must make their displeasure known. Send a message to them - judgment day is nigh and coming! On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Frankly, This project will go ahead, its going to be implemented. Why? Berdasarkan pandangan saya daripada pelbagai perkara yang berlaku ianya dipertahankan dengan begitu sekali. Kenyataan akhbar, press conference and such. Projek ini ada banyak kepentingan non ICT untuk ia dihentikan... (politik dan ) So ? Banyak mana pun kita ngomel, kritik, email, kutuk, bantah, maki, *%$ and many more words. Its waste our time . Then? Kita semua nanti perlu juga gunakan sebab, saman polis dan JPA akan hanya melalui thats email. Tidak lagi pos. Next? Back to our main issue. We need a big and branded company like Microsoft. Lets discuss how. How?? On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 8:41 AM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: Boh, thanks for the link, which i can see: Tricubes shares soar on news it will be working with Microsoft Now that pops the spiritual question - Is that not what we all care about? It is making money legally. With FOSS you cannot make that kind of money. Give it up guys. I mean look at the pathetic of us here, without dough, swimming among sharks, just got our lifebelts yanked (MDec financial support) and the heli did not show up (RM10m promise from MDec) and still lots of borang-borang to fill up while kicking hard in the water (to get tidbits from the so called RM10m). But the final laugh should come while you get 'lucky' and called up by MOSTI to defend your proposal with the question, Can you idea beat Tricubes idea of working with MS and become commercially viable? Side-note to Raja: Is the above the kind of rant you wished for? Side-note to Rafe: Just having fun on a Sunday morning cos i aint going to church. :) On 5/8/11 12:47 AM, E A Faisal wrote: Dear Mr Pemandu Director, sir, are you on crack or somethin'? On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote: sorry, I wrote this some time back, but it got stuck in my outbox, or rather drafts... but the arguments are still valid. BTW, in yesterdays TheStar, Idris Jala head of PEMANDU came out with a full 2-page 'expalnation' for the 1Malaysia email... more updates on triCubes http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/4/22/business/8530788sec=business -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
