Re: [osdcmy] Oh No ! Poor Web Performance Ranking for Malaysia
Salam Semua Rakan-Rakan, Saya daripada salah sebuah Internet Service Provider di Malaysia. Kami masih baru, dan buat masa ini kami baru memiliki satu 'strand' of Unity Submarine Cable, yang menyambungkan Jepun ke Amerika. Sistem Kabel Bawah laut ini adalah dengan kerjasama banyak pihak termasuk Google sendiri. Cubalah membuat tekaan ... :-) Anda pernah dengar? Berkemungkinan segelintir pernah dengar? Sebarang pendapat / komen / malahan kutukan untuk penambahbaikan adalah amat-amat dialu-alukan. Saya akan memajukan semua input anda terus ke pihak pengurusan tertinggi, tanpa sebarang tapisan. Terima kasih. AZMI Salim 2012/7/18 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com Secara kasar, saya letakkan tanggungjawab ini kepada TM. Dari segi makro, infrastruktur internet kita sudah lama ketinggalan sejak 7 tahun. Tiap2 dua tahun, laporan global competitiveness akan memuji Malaysia dari segi aplikasi egov dan pada masa sama infrastruktur internet yang lemah mencacatkan ranking Malaysia. Setelah lebih 5 tahun, harga langganan TM Streamyx untuk 1Mbps masih sama, dan kualiti buruk masih sama. Sambil itu TM tergamak untuk membuat capital repayment (pulangan balik modal syarikat). Seolah tidak ambil peduli tentang pelaburan semula bagi kebajikan pelanggan dan aspirasi Malaysia secara umumnya. http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/valueinvestorresearchklse/14357.jsp 2012/7/17 Tajul Azhar pislissnif...@gmail.com Alamak bos, tu jauh lagi tu.. hehe.. Saya masih belajar MSSQL je :( 2012/7/17 Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com Yang baiknya apabila rakan-rakan kita semakin mahir. Kami yang diluar pun perlu juga semakin maju dan lebih mahir. Saya tidak risau, apa yang saya tahu dan buat sekarang dibuat sendiri oleh rakan-rakan dalam kerajaan. Itu yang bagus, saya boleh tumpu untuk berikan service lain yang lebih baik dan mahirkan diri dan kemudian TOT kembali kepada yang lain. Yang untung tetap rakyat, apabila ilmu dikongsikan bersama seperti komuniti OSS, maka kita akan lebih maju ke depan. Kita rakyat tidak ramai. Untuk bersaing kita perlu menjadi pakar berbanding dengan negara lain. Kita perlu tunjukkan dengan menyumbang semula ke dunia OSS. Biar ada nama Tajul Azhar dalam kod-kod MySQL, Drizzle atau MongoDB. Itu sahaja nukilan ringkas tingkat 10, menara rumah sendiri. Keramat. :p 2012/7/17 Tajul Azhar pislissnif...@gmail.com InsyaAllah tuan, harap cara ini berkesan untuk membuka mata rakan-rakan kita di sana. Kadangkala perkara baru dianggap 'hype' atau 'terlalu awal' seperti mana era MySQL melanda teknologi DB, dan saya rasa government lewat mempercayainya. Trending dalam government kini, kita dah ramai expert, tetapi kebanyakan kecewa dan membiarkan outsource kompeni memperkotak-katikkan kita daripada membawa diri dalam kelompok pembangunan yang 'highly-availability'. Sebabnya mudah, kadangkala ketua yang tidak berkemahiran dan favourable kepada sesuatu kompeni dan tidak mengiktiraf anak buah sendiri. Sebabnya mudah, sapa kami, apa kemahiran kami dan akhirnya kebanyakan hanya aktif di medan 'underground' yang lebih terbuka, mudah berinovasi dan mengiktiraf orang di bawah. Sekian saja dari aras 8, bangunan JPA.. [?] On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Salam Saya yakin dan saya percaya rakan-rakan ICT dalam kerajaan mampu lakukan banyak perkara. Hanya perlu bantuan melobi daripada dalam dan luar, industri dan komuniti. Harap SIG ini berterusan, sebabnya rakan-rakan ICT dalam kerajaan perlu bentuk komuniti sendiri. Tidak kira OSS atau tidak. Sebabnya hanya anda sahaja yang faham keadaan dalam tu. Komuniti diluar akan terus memberikan kerjasama. On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Tajul Azhar pislissnif...@gmail.com wrote: InsyaAllah, we are trying to improve by organizing more open and not very officially event on new technology benefit to government. Not just hype, but to secure and speed-up the information and data. InsyaAllah, team from r1.my (MongoDB) will be with us, and we try to organize new technology frequently. Hope everybody can support us, and I am open to any team to be with us. Regards On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 2:01 PM, E A Faisal eafai...@gmail.com wrote: yea! we're number 1, though for worst availability :P On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Better to host the servers in the cloud using MAAS or PAAS. Secure with encypted file system and such. On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: Oh dear ! Malaysia ranks poorly on another web performance ranking compared to Thailand, Vietnam, Philippines, Indonesia and Singapore ;-( http://www1.zdnetasia.com/specials/web-performance-benchmark/ Worst response times: 1. Philippines Retail sites 2. Malaysia Govt sites 3. Malaysia Telco sites Worst
Re: [osdcmy] Oh No ! Poor Web Performance Ranking for Malaysia
Salam Tuan Raja Iskandar Shah, Saya bukan daripada YES4G. Boleh buat tekaan lagi... :-) Personal Disclaimer: Saya jarang guna Mobile Broadband. Tetapi, berdasarkan pengalaman rakan-rakan, saya sangat bersetuju Yes4G adalah antara servis yang boleh diharapkan dari segi kelajuan. Another Personal Disclaimer: My family is using and testing a few 'Fibre-based' ISPs consecutively at multiple locations. However, due to contractual commercial competitveness NDA, we are unable to disclose any performance figures. Pernah cuba DiGi Broadband? DiGiTel sedang membuat percubaan Next Gen Network, basically it's LTE++. Kawasan percubaan buat masa ini adalah Shah Alam. Jika ada contact, try lah minta jadi tester. AZMI Salim 2012/7/18 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com Salam Azmi Saya pelanggan Yes4G dan memang puas hati dgn speed. Tapi kurang puas hati sebab asyik habis quota 10GB sebulan. Apakah opsyen lain untuk mobile broadband ? Sebelum ini saya gunakan Maxis BB, tapi coverage sangat buruk di kawasan rumah saya di Presint 9, Putrajaya. 2012/7/18 AZMI salim azm...@gmail.com Salam Semua Rakan-Rakan, Saya daripada salah sebuah Internet Service Provider di Malaysia. Kami masih baru, dan buat masa ini kami baru memiliki satu 'strand' of Unity Submarine Cable, yang menyambungkan Jepun ke Amerika. Sistem Kabel Bawah laut ini adalah dengan kerjasama banyak pihak termasuk Google sendiri. Cubalah membuat tekaan ... :-) Anda pernah dengar? Berkemungkinan segelintir pernah dengar? Sebarang pendapat / komen / malahan kutukan untuk penambahbaikan adalah amat-amat dialu-alukan. Saya akan memajukan semua input anda terus ke pihak pengurusan tertinggi, tanpa sebarang tapisan. Terima kasih. AZMI Salim 2012/7/18 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com Secara kasar, saya letakkan tanggungjawab ini kepada TM. Dari segi makro, infrastruktur internet kita sudah lama ketinggalan sejak 7 tahun. Tiap2 dua tahun, laporan global competitiveness akan memuji Malaysia dari segi aplikasi egov dan pada masa sama infrastruktur internet yang lemah mencacatkan ranking Malaysia. Setelah lebih 5 tahun, harga langganan TM Streamyx untuk 1Mbps masih sama, dan kualiti buruk masih sama. Sambil itu TM tergamak untuk membuat capital repayment (pulangan balik modal syarikat). Seolah tidak ambil peduli tentang pelaburan semula bagi kebajikan pelanggan dan aspirasi Malaysia secara umumnya. http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/valueinvestorresearchklse/14357.jsp 2012/7/17 Tajul Azhar pislissnif...@gmail.com Alamak bos, tu jauh lagi tu.. hehe.. Saya masih belajar MSSQL je :( 2012/7/17 Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com Yang baiknya apabila rakan-rakan kita semakin mahir. Kami yang diluar pun perlu juga semakin maju dan lebih mahir. Saya tidak risau, apa yang saya tahu dan buat sekarang dibuat sendiri oleh rakan-rakan dalam kerajaan. Itu yang bagus, saya boleh tumpu untuk berikan service lain yang lebih baik dan mahirkan diri dan kemudian TOT kembali kepada yang lain. Yang untung tetap rakyat, apabila ilmu dikongsikan bersama seperti komuniti OSS, maka kita akan lebih maju ke depan. Kita rakyat tidak ramai. Untuk bersaing kita perlu menjadi pakar berbanding dengan negara lain. Kita perlu tunjukkan dengan menyumbang semula ke dunia OSS. Biar ada nama Tajul Azhar dalam kod-kod MySQL, Drizzle atau MongoDB. Itu sahaja nukilan ringkas tingkat 10, menara rumah sendiri. Keramat. :p 2012/7/17 Tajul Azhar pislissnif...@gmail.com InsyaAllah tuan, harap cara ini berkesan untuk membuka mata rakan-rakan kita di sana. Kadangkala perkara baru dianggap 'hype' atau 'terlalu awal' seperti mana era MySQL melanda teknologi DB, dan saya rasa government lewat mempercayainya. Trending dalam government kini, kita dah ramai expert, tetapi kebanyakan kecewa dan membiarkan outsource kompeni memperkotak-katikkan kita daripada membawa diri dalam kelompok pembangunan yang 'highly-availability'. Sebabnya mudah, kadangkala ketua yang tidak berkemahiran dan favourable kepada sesuatu kompeni dan tidak mengiktiraf anak buah sendiri. Sebabnya mudah, sapa kami, apa kemahiran kami dan akhirnya kebanyakan hanya aktif di medan 'underground' yang lebih terbuka, mudah berinovasi dan mengiktiraf orang di bawah. Sekian saja dari aras 8, bangunan JPA.. [?] On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Salam Saya yakin dan saya percaya rakan-rakan ICT dalam kerajaan mampu lakukan banyak perkara. Hanya perlu bantuan melobi daripada dalam dan luar, industri dan komuniti. Harap SIG ini berterusan, sebabnya rakan-rakan ICT dalam kerajaan perlu bentuk komuniti sendiri. Tidak kira OSS atau tidak. Sebabnya hanya anda sahaja yang faham keadaan dalam tu. Komuniti diluar akan terus memberikan kerjasama. On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Tajul Azhar pislissnif...@gmail.com wrote: InsyaAllah, we are trying to improve
Re: [osdcmy] Oh No ! Poor Web Performance Ranking for Malaysia
Salam En. Ahmed Noor Kader Mustajir, Anda semakin hampir... :-) AZMI Salim 2012/7/18 Ahmed Noor Kader Mustajir Md Eusoff sir@gmail.com Time dot Com http://www.time.com.my/aboutus/newsroom_detailed.asp?id=215 2012/7/18 AZMI salim azm...@gmail.com Salam Tuan Raja Iskandar Shah, Saya bukan daripada YES4G. Boleh buat tekaan lagi... :-) Personal Disclaimer: Saya jarang guna Mobile Broadband. Tetapi, berdasarkan pengalaman rakan-rakan, saya sangat bersetuju Yes4G adalah antara servis yang boleh diharapkan dari segi kelajuan. Another Personal Disclaimer: My family is using and testing a few 'Fibre-based' ISPs consecutively at multiple locations. However, due to contractual commercial competitveness NDA, we are unable to disclose any performance figures. Pernah cuba DiGi Broadband? DiGiTel sedang membuat percubaan Next Gen Network, basically it's LTE++. Kawasan percubaan buat masa ini adalah Shah Alam. Jika ada contact, try lah minta jadi tester. AZMI Salim 2012/7/18 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com Salam Azmi Saya pelanggan Yes4G dan memang puas hati dgn speed. Tapi kurang puas hati sebab asyik habis quota 10GB sebulan. Apakah opsyen lain untuk mobile broadband ? Sebelum ini saya gunakan Maxis BB, tapi coverage sangat buruk di kawasan rumah saya di Presint 9, Putrajaya. 2012/7/18 AZMI salim azm...@gmail.com Salam Semua Rakan-Rakan, Saya daripada salah sebuah Internet Service Provider di Malaysia. Kami masih baru, dan buat masa ini kami baru memiliki satu 'strand' of Unity Submarine Cable, yang menyambungkan Jepun ke Amerika. Sistem Kabel Bawah laut ini adalah dengan kerjasama banyak pihak termasuk Google sendiri. Cubalah membuat tekaan ... :-) Anda pernah dengar? Berkemungkinan segelintir pernah dengar? Sebarang pendapat / komen / malahan kutukan untuk penambahbaikan adalah amat-amat dialu-alukan. Saya akan memajukan semua input anda terus ke pihak pengurusan tertinggi, tanpa sebarang tapisan. Terima kasih. AZMI Salim 2012/7/18 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com Secara kasar, saya letakkan tanggungjawab ini kepada TM. Dari segi makro, infrastruktur internet kita sudah lama ketinggalan sejak 7 tahun. Tiap2 dua tahun, laporan global competitiveness akan memuji Malaysia dari segi aplikasi egov dan pada masa sama infrastruktur internet yang lemah mencacatkan ranking Malaysia. Setelah lebih 5 tahun, harga langganan TM Streamyx untuk 1Mbps masih sama, dan kualiti buruk masih sama. Sambil itu TM tergamak untuk membuat capital repayment (pulangan balik modal syarikat). Seolah tidak ambil peduli tentang pelaburan semula bagi kebajikan pelanggan dan aspirasi Malaysia secara umumnya. http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/valueinvestorresearchklse/14357.jsp 2012/7/17 Tajul Azhar pislissnif...@gmail.com Alamak bos, tu jauh lagi tu.. hehe.. Saya masih belajar MSSQL je :( 2012/7/17 Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com Yang baiknya apabila rakan-rakan kita semakin mahir. Kami yang diluar pun perlu juga semakin maju dan lebih mahir. Saya tidak risau, apa yang saya tahu dan buat sekarang dibuat sendiri oleh rakan-rakan dalam kerajaan. Itu yang bagus, saya boleh tumpu untuk berikan service lain yang lebih baik dan mahirkan diri dan kemudian TOT kembali kepada yang lain. Yang untung tetap rakyat, apabila ilmu dikongsikan bersama seperti komuniti OSS, maka kita akan lebih maju ke depan. Kita rakyat tidak ramai. Untuk bersaing kita perlu menjadi pakar berbanding dengan negara lain. Kita perlu tunjukkan dengan menyumbang semula ke dunia OSS. Biar ada nama Tajul Azhar dalam kod-kod MySQL, Drizzle atau MongoDB. Itu sahaja nukilan ringkas tingkat 10, menara rumah sendiri. Keramat. :p 2012/7/17 Tajul Azhar pislissnif...@gmail.com InsyaAllah tuan, harap cara ini berkesan untuk membuka mata rakan-rakan kita di sana. Kadangkala perkara baru dianggap 'hype' atau 'terlalu awal' seperti mana era MySQL melanda teknologi DB, dan saya rasa government lewat mempercayainya. Trending dalam government kini, kita dah ramai expert, tetapi kebanyakan kecewa dan membiarkan outsource kompeni memperkotak-katikkan kita daripada membawa diri dalam kelompok pembangunan yang 'highly-availability'. Sebabnya mudah, kadangkala ketua yang tidak berkemahiran dan favourable kepada sesuatu kompeni dan tidak mengiktiraf anak buah sendiri. Sebabnya mudah, sapa kami, apa kemahiran kami dan akhirnya kebanyakan hanya aktif di medan 'underground' yang lebih terbuka, mudah berinovasi dan mengiktiraf orang di bawah. Sekian saja dari aras 8, bangunan JPA.. [?] On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Salam Saya yakin dan saya percaya rakan-rakan ICT dalam kerajaan mampu lakukan banyak perkara. Hanya perlu bantuan melobi daripada dalam dan luar, industri dan komuniti. Harap SIG ini berterusan, sebabnya rakan-rakan ICT dalam kerajaan perlu
Re: [osdcmy] Oh No ! Poor Web Performance Ranking for Malaysia
Salam En. Syafiq, Kami adalah salah satu pembekal perkhidmatan kepada syarikat yang anda sebutkan :-) AZMI Salim 2012/7/18 Muhammad Syafiq creativeneur...@gmail.com RedTone? محمد شافق بن مذلي Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli @syafiqmazli my blog! http://blog.f1q.my 67C2 1C07 FDEC 09ED DE58 1ED8 FF26 6105 142D CBE2 community-malaysia mailing list community-malay...@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/community-malaysia 2012/7/18 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com U Mobile looks interesting 42Mbps with 20GB quota untuk RM128 sebulan http://www.u.com.my/phone-deals/bb42 Putrajaya, Kelana Jaya dan Seremban ada coverage 42Mbps. Tapi Ipoh takde, nationwide coverage pun sikit aje Boleh percaya ka ? 2012/7/18 Ahmed Noor Kader Mustajir Md Eusoff sir@gmail.com TIME ka? 2012/7/18 AZMI salim azm...@gmail.com Salam Tuan Raja Iskandar Shah, Saya bukan daripada YES4G. Boleh buat tekaan lagi... :-) Personal Disclaimer: Saya jarang guna Mobile Broadband. Tetapi, berdasarkan pengalaman rakan-rakan, saya sangat bersetuju Yes4G adalah antara servis yang boleh diharapkan dari segi kelajuan. Another Personal Disclaimer: My family is using and testing a few 'Fibre-based' ISPs consecutively at multiple locations. However, due to contractual commercial competitveness NDA, we are unable to disclose any performance figures. Pernah cuba DiGi Broadband? DiGiTel sedang membuat percubaan Next Gen Network, basically it's LTE++. Kawasan percubaan buat masa ini adalah Shah Alam. Jika ada contact, try lah minta jadi tester. AZMI Salim 2012/7/18 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com Salam Azmi Saya pelanggan Yes4G dan memang puas hati dgn speed. Tapi kurang puas hati sebab asyik habis quota 10GB sebulan. Apakah opsyen lain untuk mobile broadband ? Sebelum ini saya gunakan Maxis BB, tapi coverage sangat buruk di kawasan rumah saya di Presint 9, Putrajaya. 2012/7/18 AZMI salim azm...@gmail.com Salam Semua Rakan-Rakan, Saya daripada salah sebuah Internet Service Provider di Malaysia. Kami masih baru, dan buat masa ini kami baru memiliki satu 'strand' of Unity Submarine Cable, yang menyambungkan Jepun ke Amerika. Sistem Kabel Bawah laut ini adalah dengan kerjasama banyak pihak termasuk Google sendiri. Cubalah membuat tekaan ... :-) Anda pernah dengar? Berkemungkinan segelintir pernah dengar? Sebarang pendapat / komen / malahan kutukan untuk penambahbaikan adalah amat-amat dialu-alukan. Saya akan memajukan semua input anda terus ke pihak pengurusan tertinggi, tanpa sebarang tapisan. Terima kasih. AZMI Salim 2012/7/18 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com Secara kasar, saya letakkan tanggungjawab ini kepada TM. Dari segi makro, infrastruktur internet kita sudah lama ketinggalan sejak 7 tahun. Tiap2 dua tahun, laporan global competitiveness akan memuji Malaysia dari segi aplikasi egov dan pada masa sama infrastruktur internet yang lemah mencacatkan ranking Malaysia. Setelah lebih 5 tahun, harga langganan TM Streamyx untuk 1Mbps masih sama, dan kualiti buruk masih sama. Sambil itu TM tergamak untuk membuat capital repayment (pulangan balik modal syarikat). Seolah tidak ambil peduli tentang pelaburan semula bagi kebajikan pelanggan dan aspirasi Malaysia secara umumnya. http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/valueinvestorresearchklse/14357.jsp 2012/7/17 Tajul Azhar pislissnif...@gmail.com Alamak bos, tu jauh lagi tu.. hehe.. Saya masih belajar MSSQL je :( 2012/7/17 Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com Yang baiknya apabila rakan-rakan kita semakin mahir. Kami yang diluar pun perlu juga semakin maju dan lebih mahir. Saya tidak risau, apa yang saya tahu dan buat sekarang dibuat sendiri oleh rakan-rakan dalam kerajaan. Itu yang bagus, saya boleh tumpu untuk berikan service lain yang lebih baik dan mahirkan diri dan kemudian TOT kembali kepada yang lain. Yang untung tetap rakyat, apabila ilmu dikongsikan bersama seperti komuniti OSS, maka kita akan lebih maju ke depan. Kita rakyat tidak ramai. Untuk bersaing kita perlu menjadi pakar berbanding dengan negara lain. Kita perlu tunjukkan dengan menyumbang semula ke dunia OSS. Biar ada nama Tajul Azhar dalam kod-kod MySQL, Drizzle atau MongoDB. Itu sahaja nukilan ringkas tingkat 10, menara rumah sendiri. Keramat. :p 2012/7/17 Tajul Azhar pislissnif...@gmail.com InsyaAllah tuan, harap cara ini berkesan untuk membuka mata rakan-rakan kita di sana. Kadangkala perkara baru dianggap 'hype' atau 'terlalu awal' seperti mana era MySQL melanda teknologi DB, dan saya rasa government lewat mempercayainya. Trending dalam government kini, kita dah ramai expert, tetapi kebanyakan kecewa dan membiarkan outsource kompeni memperkotak-katikkan kita daripada membawa diri dalam kelompok pembangunan yang 'highly-availability'. Sebabnya mudah, kadangkala ketua yang tidak berkemahiran dan favourable kepada sesuatu kompeni dan
Re: [osdcmy] Oh No ! Poor Web Performance Ranking for Malaysia
Salam, GLBB berpangkalan di Jepun. Kami berpangkalan di Malaysia. AZMI Salim 2012/7/18 tilm...@gmail.com ** GLBB ? Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile. -- *From: * AZMI salim azm...@gmail.com *Sender: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *Date: *Wed, 18 Jul 2012 15:40:13 +0800 *To: *osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [osdcmy] Oh No ! Poor Web Performance Ranking for Malaysia Salam En. Ahmed Noor Kader Mustajir, Anda semakin hampir... :-) AZMI Salim 2012/7/18 Ahmed Noor Kader Mustajir Md Eusoff sir@gmail.com Time dot Com http://www.time.com.my/aboutus/newsroom_detailed.asp?id=215 2012/7/18 AZMI salim azm...@gmail.com Salam Tuan Raja Iskandar Shah, Saya bukan daripada YES4G. Boleh buat tekaan lagi... :-) Personal Disclaimer: Saya jarang guna Mobile Broadband. Tetapi, berdasarkan pengalaman rakan-rakan, saya sangat bersetuju Yes4G adalah antara servis yang boleh diharapkan dari segi kelajuan. Another Personal Disclaimer: My family is using and testing a few 'Fibre-based' ISPs consecutively at multiple locations. However, due to contractual commercial competitveness NDA, we are unable to disclose any performance figures. Pernah cuba DiGi Broadband? DiGiTel sedang membuat percubaan Next Gen Network, basically it's LTE++. Kawasan percubaan buat masa ini adalah Shah Alam. Jika ada contact, try lah minta jadi tester. AZMI Salim 2012/7/18 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com Salam Azmi Saya pelanggan Yes4G dan memang puas hati dgn speed. Tapi kurang puas hati sebab asyik habis quota 10GB sebulan. Apakah opsyen lain untuk mobile broadband ? Sebelum ini saya gunakan Maxis BB, tapi coverage sangat buruk di kawasan rumah saya di Presint 9, Putrajaya. 2012/7/18 AZMI salim azm...@gmail.com Salam Semua Rakan-Rakan, Saya daripada salah sebuah Internet Service Provider di Malaysia. Kami masih baru, dan buat masa ini kami baru memiliki satu 'strand' of Unity Submarine Cable, yang menyambungkan Jepun ke Amerika. Sistem Kabel Bawah laut ini adalah dengan kerjasama banyak pihak termasuk Google sendiri. Cubalah membuat tekaan ... :-) Anda pernah dengar? Berkemungkinan segelintir pernah dengar? Sebarang pendapat / komen / malahan kutukan untuk penambahbaikan adalah amat-amat dialu-alukan. Saya akan memajukan semua input anda terus ke pihak pengurusan tertinggi, tanpa sebarang tapisan. Terima kasih. AZMI Salim 2012/7/18 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com Secara kasar, saya letakkan tanggungjawab ini kepada TM. Dari segi makro, infrastruktur internet kita sudah lama ketinggalan sejak 7 tahun. Tiap2 dua tahun, laporan global competitiveness akan memuji Malaysia dari segi aplikasi egov dan pada masa sama infrastruktur internet yang lemah mencacatkan ranking Malaysia. Setelah lebih 5 tahun, harga langganan TM Streamyx untuk 1Mbps masih sama, dan kualiti buruk masih sama. Sambil itu TM tergamak untuk membuat capital repayment (pulangan balik modal syarikat). Seolah tidak ambil peduli tentang pelaburan semula bagi kebajikan pelanggan dan aspirasi Malaysia secara umumnya. http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/valueinvestorresearchklse/14357.jsp 2012/7/17 Tajul Azhar pislissnif...@gmail.com Alamak bos, tu jauh lagi tu.. hehe.. Saya masih belajar MSSQL je :( 2012/7/17 Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com Yang baiknya apabila rakan-rakan kita semakin mahir. Kami yang diluar pun perlu juga semakin maju dan lebih mahir. Saya tidak risau, apa yang saya tahu dan buat sekarang dibuat sendiri oleh rakan-rakan dalam kerajaan. Itu yang bagus, saya boleh tumpu untuk berikan service lain yang lebih baik dan mahirkan diri dan kemudian TOT kembali kepada yang lain. Yang untung tetap rakyat, apabila ilmu dikongsikan bersama seperti komuniti OSS, maka kita akan lebih maju ke depan. Kita rakyat tidak ramai. Untuk bersaing kita perlu menjadi pakar berbanding dengan negara lain. Kita perlu tunjukkan dengan menyumbang semula ke dunia OSS. Biar ada nama Tajul Azhar dalam kod-kod MySQL, Drizzle atau MongoDB. Itu sahaja nukilan ringkas tingkat 10, menara rumah sendiri. Keramat. :p 2012/7/17 Tajul Azhar pislissnif...@gmail.com InsyaAllah tuan, harap cara ini berkesan untuk membuka mata rakan-rakan kita di sana. Kadangkala perkara baru dianggap 'hype' atau 'terlalu awal' seperti mana era MySQL melanda teknologi DB, dan saya rasa government lewat mempercayainya. Trending dalam government kini, kita dah ramai expert, tetapi kebanyakan kecewa dan membiarkan outsource kompeni memperkotak-katikkan kita daripada membawa diri dalam kelompok pembangunan yang 'highly-availability'. Sebabnya mudah, kadangkala ketua yang tidak berkemahiran dan favourable kepada sesuatu kompeni dan tidak mengiktiraf anak buah sendiri. Sebabnya mudah, sapa kami, apa kemahiran kami dan akhirnya
Re: [osdcmy] Oh No ! Poor Web Performance Ranking for Malaysia
Salam Tuan Raja Iskandar, You may have to try it out yourself. As per unconfimed information, 42Mbps speed on UMobile is available only at Berjaya TIMES Square, kena baca the tiny dislcaimer footprint. I cannot confirm this details. AZMI Salim 2012/7/18 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com U Mobile looks interesting 42Mbps with 20GB quota untuk RM128 sebulan http://www.u.com.my/phone-deals/bb42 Putrajaya, Kelana Jaya dan Seremban ada coverage 42Mbps. Tapi Ipoh takde, nationwide coverage pun sikit aje Boleh percaya ka ? 2012/7/18 Ahmed Noor Kader Mustajir Md Eusoff sir@gmail.com TIME ka? 2012/7/18 AZMI salim azm...@gmail.com Salam Tuan Raja Iskandar Shah, Saya bukan daripada YES4G. Boleh buat tekaan lagi... :-) Personal Disclaimer: Saya jarang guna Mobile Broadband. Tetapi, berdasarkan pengalaman rakan-rakan, saya sangat bersetuju Yes4G adalah antara servis yang boleh diharapkan dari segi kelajuan. Another Personal Disclaimer: My family is using and testing a few 'Fibre-based' ISPs consecutively at multiple locations. However, due to contractual commercial competitveness NDA, we are unable to disclose any performance figures. Pernah cuba DiGi Broadband? DiGiTel sedang membuat percubaan Next Gen Network, basically it's LTE++. Kawasan percubaan buat masa ini adalah Shah Alam. Jika ada contact, try lah minta jadi tester. AZMI Salim 2012/7/18 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com Salam Azmi Saya pelanggan Yes4G dan memang puas hati dgn speed. Tapi kurang puas hati sebab asyik habis quota 10GB sebulan. Apakah opsyen lain untuk mobile broadband ? Sebelum ini saya gunakan Maxis BB, tapi coverage sangat buruk di kawasan rumah saya di Presint 9, Putrajaya. 2012/7/18 AZMI salim azm...@gmail.com Salam Semua Rakan-Rakan, Saya daripada salah sebuah Internet Service Provider di Malaysia. Kami masih baru, dan buat masa ini kami baru memiliki satu 'strand' of Unity Submarine Cable, yang menyambungkan Jepun ke Amerika. Sistem Kabel Bawah laut ini adalah dengan kerjasama banyak pihak termasuk Google sendiri. Cubalah membuat tekaan ... :-) Anda pernah dengar? Berkemungkinan segelintir pernah dengar? Sebarang pendapat / komen / malahan kutukan untuk penambahbaikan adalah amat-amat dialu-alukan. Saya akan memajukan semua input anda terus ke pihak pengurusan tertinggi, tanpa sebarang tapisan. Terima kasih. AZMI Salim 2012/7/18 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com Secara kasar, saya letakkan tanggungjawab ini kepada TM. Dari segi makro, infrastruktur internet kita sudah lama ketinggalan sejak 7 tahun. Tiap2 dua tahun, laporan global competitiveness akan memuji Malaysia dari segi aplikasi egov dan pada masa sama infrastruktur internet yang lemah mencacatkan ranking Malaysia. Setelah lebih 5 tahun, harga langganan TM Streamyx untuk 1Mbps masih sama, dan kualiti buruk masih sama. Sambil itu TM tergamak untuk membuat capital repayment (pulangan balik modal syarikat). Seolah tidak ambil peduli tentang pelaburan semula bagi kebajikan pelanggan dan aspirasi Malaysia secara umumnya. http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/valueinvestorresearchklse/14357.jsp 2012/7/17 Tajul Azhar pislissnif...@gmail.com Alamak bos, tu jauh lagi tu.. hehe.. Saya masih belajar MSSQL je :( 2012/7/17 Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com Yang baiknya apabila rakan-rakan kita semakin mahir. Kami yang diluar pun perlu juga semakin maju dan lebih mahir. Saya tidak risau, apa yang saya tahu dan buat sekarang dibuat sendiri oleh rakan-rakan dalam kerajaan. Itu yang bagus, saya boleh tumpu untuk berikan service lain yang lebih baik dan mahirkan diri dan kemudian TOT kembali kepada yang lain. Yang untung tetap rakyat, apabila ilmu dikongsikan bersama seperti komuniti OSS, maka kita akan lebih maju ke depan. Kita rakyat tidak ramai. Untuk bersaing kita perlu menjadi pakar berbanding dengan negara lain. Kita perlu tunjukkan dengan menyumbang semula ke dunia OSS. Biar ada nama Tajul Azhar dalam kod-kod MySQL, Drizzle atau MongoDB. Itu sahaja nukilan ringkas tingkat 10, menara rumah sendiri. Keramat. :p 2012/7/17 Tajul Azhar pislissnif...@gmail.com InsyaAllah tuan, harap cara ini berkesan untuk membuka mata rakan-rakan kita di sana. Kadangkala perkara baru dianggap 'hype' atau 'terlalu awal' seperti mana era MySQL melanda teknologi DB, dan saya rasa government lewat mempercayainya. Trending dalam government kini, kita dah ramai expert, tetapi kebanyakan kecewa dan membiarkan outsource kompeni memperkotak-katikkan kita daripada membawa diri dalam kelompok pembangunan yang 'highly-availability'. Sebabnya mudah, kadangkala ketua yang tidak berkemahiran dan favourable kepada sesuatu kompeni dan tidak mengiktiraf anak buah sendiri. Sebabnya mudah, sapa kami, apa kemahiran kami dan akhirnya kebanyakan hanya aktif di medan 'underground' yang lebih terbuka, mudah berinovasi dan mengiktiraf orang
Re: [osdcmy] Oh No ! Poor Web Performance Ranking for Malaysia
Salam Semua, Tujuan saya mencelah adalah untuk meminta pendapat dan pandangan umum untuk mengetahui tahap kesedaran awam terhadap usaha penjenamaan kami dan juga yang paling penting untuk mendapat komen membina, tanpa sebarang tapisan. Harap maaf jika pernyataan saya dianggap sebagai SPAM. DISCLAIMER: This group administrator has full authority to stop my thread at anytime, if it is considered inapropriate. Terima kasih AZMI Salim 2012/7/18 AZMI salim azm...@gmail.com Salam Semua Rakan-Rakan, Saya daripada salah sebuah Internet Service Provider di Malaysia. Kami masih baru, dan buat masa ini kami baru memiliki satu 'strand' of Unity Submarine Cable, yang menyambungkan Jepun ke Amerika. Sistem Kabel Bawah laut ini adalah dengan kerjasama banyak pihak termasuk Google sendiri. Cubalah membuat tekaan ... :-) Anda pernah dengar? Berkemungkinan segelintir pernah dengar? Sebarang pendapat / komen / malahan kutukan untuk penambahbaikan adalah amat-amat dialu-alukan. Saya akan memajukan semua input anda terus ke pihak pengurusan tertinggi, tanpa sebarang tapisan. Terima kasih. AZMI Salim 2012/7/18 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com Secara kasar, saya letakkan tanggungjawab ini kepada TM. Dari segi makro, infrastruktur internet kita sudah lama ketinggalan sejak 7 tahun. Tiap2 dua tahun, laporan global competitiveness akan memuji Malaysia dari segi aplikasi egov dan pada masa sama infrastruktur internet yang lemah mencacatkan ranking Malaysia. Setelah lebih 5 tahun, harga langganan TM Streamyx untuk 1Mbps masih sama, dan kualiti buruk masih sama. Sambil itu TM tergamak untuk membuat capital repayment (pulangan balik modal syarikat). Seolah tidak ambil peduli tentang pelaburan semula bagi kebajikan pelanggan dan aspirasi Malaysia secara umumnya. http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/valueinvestorresearchklse/14357.jsp 2012/7/17 Tajul Azhar pislissnif...@gmail.com Alamak bos, tu jauh lagi tu.. hehe.. Saya masih belajar MSSQL je :( 2012/7/17 Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com Yang baiknya apabila rakan-rakan kita semakin mahir. Kami yang diluar pun perlu juga semakin maju dan lebih mahir. Saya tidak risau, apa yang saya tahu dan buat sekarang dibuat sendiri oleh rakan-rakan dalam kerajaan. Itu yang bagus, saya boleh tumpu untuk berikan service lain yang lebih baik dan mahirkan diri dan kemudian TOT kembali kepada yang lain. Yang untung tetap rakyat, apabila ilmu dikongsikan bersama seperti komuniti OSS, maka kita akan lebih maju ke depan. Kita rakyat tidak ramai. Untuk bersaing kita perlu menjadi pakar berbanding dengan negara lain. Kita perlu tunjukkan dengan menyumbang semula ke dunia OSS. Biar ada nama Tajul Azhar dalam kod-kod MySQL, Drizzle atau MongoDB. Itu sahaja nukilan ringkas tingkat 10, menara rumah sendiri. Keramat. :p 2012/7/17 Tajul Azhar pislissnif...@gmail.com InsyaAllah tuan, harap cara ini berkesan untuk membuka mata rakan-rakan kita di sana. Kadangkala perkara baru dianggap 'hype' atau 'terlalu awal' seperti mana era MySQL melanda teknologi DB, dan saya rasa government lewat mempercayainya. Trending dalam government kini, kita dah ramai expert, tetapi kebanyakan kecewa dan membiarkan outsource kompeni memperkotak-katikkan kita daripada membawa diri dalam kelompok pembangunan yang 'highly-availability'. Sebabnya mudah, kadangkala ketua yang tidak berkemahiran dan favourable kepada sesuatu kompeni dan tidak mengiktiraf anak buah sendiri. Sebabnya mudah, sapa kami, apa kemahiran kami dan akhirnya kebanyakan hanya aktif di medan 'underground' yang lebih terbuka, mudah berinovasi dan mengiktiraf orang di bawah. Sekian saja dari aras 8, bangunan JPA.. [?] On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Salam Saya yakin dan saya percaya rakan-rakan ICT dalam kerajaan mampu lakukan banyak perkara. Hanya perlu bantuan melobi daripada dalam dan luar, industri dan komuniti. Harap SIG ini berterusan, sebabnya rakan-rakan ICT dalam kerajaan perlu bentuk komuniti sendiri. Tidak kira OSS atau tidak. Sebabnya hanya anda sahaja yang faham keadaan dalam tu. Komuniti diluar akan terus memberikan kerjasama. On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Tajul Azhar pislissnif...@gmail.com wrote: InsyaAllah, we are trying to improve by organizing more open and not very officially event on new technology benefit to government. Not just hype, but to secure and speed-up the information and data. InsyaAllah, team from r1.my (MongoDB) will be with us, and we try to organize new technology frequently. Hope everybody can support us, and I am open to any team to be with us. Regards On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 2:01 PM, E A Faisal eafai...@gmail.com wrote: yea! we're number 1, though for worst availability :P On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Better to host the servers
Re: [osdcmy] Oh No ! Poor Web Performance Ranking for Malaysia
Salam Encik Syazwan, Harap maaf jika posting saya dianggap inappropriate. AZMI Salim 2012/7/18 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com sepatutnya pandangan macam tu ambil sebagai feedback atau teguran untuk jadi lebih baik, bukan nak suruh kami berteka teki atau melenting tak tentu pasal. masing-masing ada pandangan berbeza, dan dari situlah patut capture idea yang lebih baik. mungkin sebab tu timbul situasi syiok sendiri. 2012/7/18 tilm...@gmail.com ** GLBB ? Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile. -- *From: * AZMI salim azm...@gmail.com *Sender: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *Date: *Wed, 18 Jul 2012 15:40:13 +0800 *To: *osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [osdcmy] Oh No ! Poor Web Performance Ranking for Malaysia Salam En. Ahmed Noor Kader Mustajir, Anda semakin hampir... :-) AZMI Salim 2012/7/18 Ahmed Noor Kader Mustajir Md Eusoff sir@gmail.com Time dot Com http://www.time.com.my/aboutus/newsroom_detailed.asp?id=215 2012/7/18 AZMI salim azm...@gmail.com Salam Tuan Raja Iskandar Shah, Saya bukan daripada YES4G. Boleh buat tekaan lagi... :-) Personal Disclaimer: Saya jarang guna Mobile Broadband. Tetapi, berdasarkan pengalaman rakan-rakan, saya sangat bersetuju Yes4G adalah antara servis yang boleh diharapkan dari segi kelajuan. Another Personal Disclaimer: My family is using and testing a few 'Fibre-based' ISPs consecutively at multiple locations. However, due to contractual commercial competitveness NDA, we are unable to disclose any performance figures. Pernah cuba DiGi Broadband? DiGiTel sedang membuat percubaan Next Gen Network, basically it's LTE++. Kawasan percubaan buat masa ini adalah Shah Alam. Jika ada contact, try lah minta jadi tester. AZMI Salim 2012/7/18 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com Salam Azmi Saya pelanggan Yes4G dan memang puas hati dgn speed. Tapi kurang puas hati sebab asyik habis quota 10GB sebulan. Apakah opsyen lain untuk mobile broadband ? Sebelum ini saya gunakan Maxis BB, tapi coverage sangat buruk di kawasan rumah saya di Presint 9, Putrajaya. 2012/7/18 AZMI salim azm...@gmail.com Salam Semua Rakan-Rakan, Saya daripada salah sebuah Internet Service Provider di Malaysia. Kami masih baru, dan buat masa ini kami baru memiliki satu 'strand' of Unity Submarine Cable, yang menyambungkan Jepun ke Amerika. Sistem Kabel Bawah laut ini adalah dengan kerjasama banyak pihak termasuk Google sendiri. Cubalah membuat tekaan ... :-) Anda pernah dengar? Berkemungkinan segelintir pernah dengar? Sebarang pendapat / komen / malahan kutukan untuk penambahbaikan adalah amat-amat dialu-alukan. Saya akan memajukan semua input anda terus ke pihak pengurusan tertinggi, tanpa sebarang tapisan. Terima kasih. AZMI Salim 2012/7/18 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com Secara kasar, saya letakkan tanggungjawab ini kepada TM. Dari segi makro, infrastruktur internet kita sudah lama ketinggalan sejak 7 tahun. Tiap2 dua tahun, laporan global competitiveness akan memuji Malaysia dari segi aplikasi egov dan pada masa sama infrastruktur internet yang lemah mencacatkan ranking Malaysia. Setelah lebih 5 tahun, harga langganan TM Streamyx untuk 1Mbps masih sama, dan kualiti buruk masih sama. Sambil itu TM tergamak untuk membuat capital repayment (pulangan balik modal syarikat). Seolah tidak ambil peduli tentang pelaburan semula bagi kebajikan pelanggan dan aspirasi Malaysia secara umumnya. http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/valueinvestorresearchklse/14357.jsp 2012/7/17 Tajul Azhar pislissnif...@gmail.com Alamak bos, tu jauh lagi tu.. hehe.. Saya masih belajar MSSQL je :( 2012/7/17 Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com Yang baiknya apabila rakan-rakan kita semakin mahir. Kami yang diluar pun perlu juga semakin maju dan lebih mahir. Saya tidak risau, apa yang saya tahu dan buat sekarang dibuat sendiri oleh rakan-rakan dalam kerajaan. Itu yang bagus, saya boleh tumpu untuk berikan service lain yang lebih baik dan mahirkan diri dan kemudian TOT kembali kepada yang lain. Yang untung tetap rakyat, apabila ilmu dikongsikan bersama seperti komuniti OSS, maka kita akan lebih maju ke depan. Kita rakyat tidak ramai. Untuk bersaing kita perlu menjadi pakar berbanding dengan negara lain. Kita perlu tunjukkan dengan menyumbang semula ke dunia OSS. Biar ada nama Tajul Azhar dalam kod-kod MySQL, Drizzle atau MongoDB. Itu sahaja nukilan ringkas tingkat 10, menara rumah sendiri. Keramat. :p 2012/7/17 Tajul Azhar pislissnif...@gmail.com InsyaAllah tuan, harap cara ini berkesan untuk membuka mata rakan-rakan kita di sana. Kadangkala perkara baru dianggap 'hype' atau 'terlalu awal' seperti mana era MySQL melanda teknologi DB, dan saya rasa government lewat mempercayainya. Trending dalam government kini, kita dah ramai
Re: [osdcmy] Oh No ! Poor Web Performance Ranking for Malaysia
Hehehhehe :-) Buat masa ini saya mengambil pandangan umum, in response to this thread. However your point, and all other member's points are noted. I'll do what I can, to improve the experience. For the good of all. 2012/7/18 tilm...@gmail.com ** Salam, Ada hadiah ke meneka dgn betul :) VDT? Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile. -- *From: * AZMI salim azm...@gmail.com *Sender: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *Date: *Wed, 18 Jul 2012 15:48:10 +0800 *To: *osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [osdcmy] Oh No ! Poor Web Performance Ranking for Malaysia Salam Tuan Raja Iskandar, You may have to try it out yourself. As per unconfimed information, 42Mbps speed on UMobile is available only at Berjaya TIMES Square, kena baca the tiny dislcaimer footprint. I cannot confirm this details. AZMI Salim 2012/7/18 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com U Mobile looks interesting 42Mbps with 20GB quota untuk RM128 sebulan http://www.u.com.my/phone-deals/bb42 Putrajaya, Kelana Jaya dan Seremban ada coverage 42Mbps. Tapi Ipoh takde, nationwide coverage pun sikit aje Boleh percaya ka ? 2012/7/18 Ahmed Noor Kader Mustajir Md Eusoff sir@gmail.com TIME ka? 2012/7/18 AZMI salim azm...@gmail.com Salam Tuan Raja Iskandar Shah, Saya bukan daripada YES4G. Boleh buat tekaan lagi... :-) Personal Disclaimer: Saya jarang guna Mobile Broadband. Tetapi, berdasarkan pengalaman rakan-rakan, saya sangat bersetuju Yes4G adalah antara servis yang boleh diharapkan dari segi kelajuan. Another Personal Disclaimer: My family is using and testing a few 'Fibre-based' ISPs consecutively at multiple locations. However, due to contractual commercial competitveness NDA, we are unable to disclose any performance figures. Pernah cuba DiGi Broadband? DiGiTel sedang membuat percubaan Next Gen Network, basically it's LTE++. Kawasan percubaan buat masa ini adalah Shah Alam. Jika ada contact, try lah minta jadi tester. AZMI Salim 2012/7/18 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com Salam Azmi Saya pelanggan Yes4G dan memang puas hati dgn speed. Tapi kurang puas hati sebab asyik habis quota 10GB sebulan. Apakah opsyen lain untuk mobile broadband ? Sebelum ini saya gunakan Maxis BB, tapi coverage sangat buruk di kawasan rumah saya di Presint 9, Putrajaya. 2012/7/18 AZMI salim azm...@gmail.com Salam Semua Rakan-Rakan, Saya daripada salah sebuah Internet Service Provider di Malaysia. Kami masih baru, dan buat masa ini kami baru memiliki satu 'strand' of Unity Submarine Cable, yang menyambungkan Jepun ke Amerika. Sistem Kabel Bawah laut ini adalah dengan kerjasama banyak pihak termasuk Google sendiri. Cubalah membuat tekaan ... :-) Anda pernah dengar? Berkemungkinan segelintir pernah dengar? Sebarang pendapat / komen / malahan kutukan untuk penambahbaikan adalah amat-amat dialu-alukan. Saya akan memajukan semua input anda terus ke pihak pengurusan tertinggi, tanpa sebarang tapisan. Terima kasih. AZMI Salim 2012/7/18 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com Secara kasar, saya letakkan tanggungjawab ini kepada TM. Dari segi makro, infrastruktur internet kita sudah lama ketinggalan sejak 7 tahun. Tiap2 dua tahun, laporan global competitiveness akan memuji Malaysia dari segi aplikasi egov dan pada masa sama infrastruktur internet yang lemah mencacatkan ranking Malaysia. Setelah lebih 5 tahun, harga langganan TM Streamyx untuk 1Mbps masih sama, dan kualiti buruk masih sama. Sambil itu TM tergamak untuk membuat capital repayment (pulangan balik modal syarikat). Seolah tidak ambil peduli tentang pelaburan semula bagi kebajikan pelanggan dan aspirasi Malaysia secara umumnya. http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/valueinvestorresearchklse/14357.jsp 2012/7/17 Tajul Azhar pislissnif...@gmail.com Alamak bos, tu jauh lagi tu.. hehe.. Saya masih belajar MSSQL je :( 2012/7/17 Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com Yang baiknya apabila rakan-rakan kita semakin mahir. Kami yang diluar pun perlu juga semakin maju dan lebih mahir. Saya tidak risau, apa yang saya tahu dan buat sekarang dibuat sendiri oleh rakan-rakan dalam kerajaan. Itu yang bagus, saya boleh tumpu untuk berikan service lain yang lebih baik dan mahirkan diri dan kemudian TOT kembali kepada yang lain. Yang untung tetap rakyat, apabila ilmu dikongsikan bersama seperti komuniti OSS, maka kita akan lebih maju ke depan. Kita rakyat tidak ramai. Untuk bersaing kita perlu menjadi pakar berbanding dengan negara lain. Kita perlu tunjukkan dengan menyumbang semula ke dunia OSS. Biar ada nama Tajul Azhar dalam kod-kod MySQL, Drizzle atau MongoDB. Itu sahaja nukilan ringkas tingkat 10, menara rumah sendiri. Keramat. :p 2012/7/17 Tajul Azhar pislissnif...@gmail.com InsyaAllah tuan, harap cara ini berkesan untuk membuka mata rakan-rakan kita di
Re: [osdcmy] Oh No ! Poor Web Performance Ranking for Malaysia
Salam Encik Fadzuan, Akhirnya, betul pun. Pernah ke deal dengan Global Transit, directly / indirectly? Any experience you may want to share with all of us? If segan just message myself directly: azm...@gmail.com By the way, as an interim record, saya akan forward brand awareness initial review kepada pihak berkenaan. AZMI Salim 2012/7/18 one fadz...@gmail.com Global Transit Communications http://www.globaltransit.net/ (‘GTC’) kan..? 2012/7/18 AZMI salim azm...@gmail.com Hehehhehe :-) Buat masa ini saya mengambil pandangan umum, in response to this thread. However your point, and all other member's points are noted. I'll do what I can, to improve the experience. For the good of all. 2012/7/18 tilm...@gmail.com ** Salam, Ada hadiah ke meneka dgn betul :) VDT? Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile. -- *From: * AZMI salim azm...@gmail.com *Sender: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *Date: *Wed, 18 Jul 2012 15:48:10 +0800 *To: *osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [osdcmy] Oh No ! Poor Web Performance Ranking for Malaysia Salam Tuan Raja Iskandar, You may have to try it out yourself. As per unconfimed information, 42Mbps speed on UMobile is available only at Berjaya TIMES Square, kena baca the tiny dislcaimer footprint. I cannot confirm this details. AZMI Salim 2012/7/18 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com U Mobile looks interesting 42Mbps with 20GB quota untuk RM128 sebulan http://www.u.com.my/phone-deals/bb42 Putrajaya, Kelana Jaya dan Seremban ada coverage 42Mbps. Tapi Ipoh takde, nationwide coverage pun sikit aje Boleh percaya ka ? 2012/7/18 Ahmed Noor Kader Mustajir Md Eusoff sir@gmail.com TIME ka? 2012/7/18 AZMI salim azm...@gmail.com Salam Tuan Raja Iskandar Shah, Saya bukan daripada YES4G. Boleh buat tekaan lagi... :-) Personal Disclaimer: Saya jarang guna Mobile Broadband. Tetapi, berdasarkan pengalaman rakan-rakan, saya sangat bersetuju Yes4G adalah antara servis yang boleh diharapkan dari segi kelajuan. Another Personal Disclaimer: My family is using and testing a few 'Fibre-based' ISPs consecutively at multiple locations. However, due to contractual commercial competitveness NDA, we are unable to disclose any performance figures. Pernah cuba DiGi Broadband? DiGiTel sedang membuat percubaan Next Gen Network, basically it's LTE++. Kawasan percubaan buat masa ini adalah Shah Alam. Jika ada contact, try lah minta jadi tester. AZMI Salim 2012/7/18 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com Salam Azmi Saya pelanggan Yes4G dan memang puas hati dgn speed. Tapi kurang puas hati sebab asyik habis quota 10GB sebulan. Apakah opsyen lain untuk mobile broadband ? Sebelum ini saya gunakan Maxis BB, tapi coverage sangat buruk di kawasan rumah saya di Presint 9, Putrajaya. 2012/7/18 AZMI salim azm...@gmail.com Salam Semua Rakan-Rakan, Saya daripada salah sebuah Internet Service Provider di Malaysia. Kami masih baru, dan buat masa ini kami baru memiliki satu 'strand' of Unity Submarine Cable, yang menyambungkan Jepun ke Amerika. Sistem Kabel Bawah laut ini adalah dengan kerjasama banyak pihak termasuk Google sendiri. Cubalah membuat tekaan ... :-) Anda pernah dengar? Berkemungkinan segelintir pernah dengar? Sebarang pendapat / komen / malahan kutukan untuk penambahbaikan adalah amat-amat dialu-alukan. Saya akan memajukan semua input anda terus ke pihak pengurusan tertinggi, tanpa sebarang tapisan. Terima kasih. AZMI Salim 2012/7/18 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com Secara kasar, saya letakkan tanggungjawab ini kepada TM. Dari segi makro, infrastruktur internet kita sudah lama ketinggalan sejak 7 tahun. Tiap2 dua tahun, laporan global competitiveness akan memuji Malaysia dari segi aplikasi egov dan pada masa sama infrastruktur internet yang lemah mencacatkan ranking Malaysia. Setelah lebih 5 tahun, harga langganan TM Streamyx untuk 1Mbps masih sama, dan kualiti buruk masih sama. Sambil itu TM tergamak untuk membuat capital repayment (pulangan balik modal syarikat). Seolah tidak ambil peduli tentang pelaburan semula bagi kebajikan pelanggan dan aspirasi Malaysia secara umumnya. http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/valueinvestorresearchklse/14357.jsp 2012/7/17 Tajul Azhar pislissnif...@gmail.com Alamak bos, tu jauh lagi tu.. hehe.. Saya masih belajar MSSQL je :( 2012/7/17 Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com Yang baiknya apabila rakan-rakan kita semakin mahir. Kami yang diluar pun perlu juga semakin maju dan lebih mahir. Saya tidak risau, apa yang saya tahu dan buat sekarang dibuat sendiri oleh rakan-rakan dalam kerajaan. Itu yang bagus, saya boleh tumpu untuk berikan service lain yang lebih baik dan mahirkan diri dan kemudian TOT kembali kepada yang lain. Yang untung tetap rakyat, apabila ilmu
Re: [osdcmy] Speech By Tun Dr Mahathir Bin Mohamad At The Inaugural Launch Of OSDC.my And Open Source Industry Global Linkage At Berjaya Times Square Monday, 1 June, 2009
The Launch Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE8mi5BW9dc On 22 April 2012 20:11, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: It is an embarrassment. I was among those who suggested Linux open source years ago. I had almost forgotten about it http://pinterest.com/pin/249035054364968691/ --- Speech By Tun Dr Mahathir Bin Mohamad At The Inaugural Launch Of OSDC.my And Open Source Industry Global Linkage At Berjaya Times Square Monday, 1 June, 2009 -- Archive in Facebook. OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook. http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information and https://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia Speech By Tun Dr Mahathir Bin Mohamad At The Inaugural Launch Of OSDC.my And Open Source Industry Global Linkage At Berjaya Times Square Monday, 1 June, 2009 https://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/doc/295831823828588/ Pictures https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.85203478545.85004.80292283545 -- Origin http://library.perdana.org.my/Speech_dmm/speech/2009/DMM20090601.pdf SPEECH BY TUN DR MAHATHIR BIN MOHAMAD AT THE INAUGURAL LAUNCH OF OSDC.MY AND OPEN SOUCE INDUSTRY GLOBAL LINKAGE AT BERJAYA TIMES SQUARE MONDAY, 1 JUNE, 2009 1. Firstly I would like to thank OSDC.my for inviting me to this dinner and also to talk on a subject about which I cannot claim to know much. 2. I am 84 years of age, too old to learn new things. It is an embarrassment. I was among those who suggested Linux open source years ago. I had almost forgotten about it. And now you tell me you have an Open Source Development Club here in Malaysia. I read your brief Charter on OSDC.my. I must admit I can hardly understand it. 3. You talk in an entirely new language which I have difficulty in understanding. This is made worse by the frequent use of acronyms which I always fail to remember what they represent. 4. I am amazed at the use of such words and terms like Foxie, Ubuntu, GNU, Perl, Ruby, Phyton, Fedora and many others, which are the names of animals, precious stones and clothing – it goes to show that technology creators can be whimsical and relate to the mundane and the ordinary. How else can a sophisticated thing like a computer be called Apple. Then you have search engines called Yahoo and Google. 5. But the speed of progress in the information age is mind-boggling if we take for example the development of the telephone. The cellular phone which initially was to be a replacement for a limited range radio phone is today a computer, a calculator, a TV and Internet receiver and dispatcher, a camera and about everything else that we can imagine an electronic equipment can do. Its range now covers the whole globe, and the sound is fantastically clear. It once saved a man’s life from a tiger attack because he could call for help with his versatile cellular phone. I would have been eaten by the tiger because I don’t carry my cellular. I depend on my staff. 6. The knowledge that we can access through the computer are limitless. It is said that we can study for a post graduate degree simply by owning a computer. Though not computer-savvy I have found the computer invaluable for verifying historical facts and data about almost any event that had taken place centuries ago or yesterday. 7. But like all things available to men, knowledge and its acquisition can be for evil as much as for the good. The blogs for example can be used to demonize people, scare and frighten them and create panic. The SMS can be used for similar purposes. 8. But we know how useful they can be for making the truth known and for individuals to air their views and feelings freely. 9. I was told by some people a long time ago that when we use the Internet, whatever you do or write would be recorded in some far away place. There is no secrecy. Since the Government was using the Internet a lot, it was frightening to think that some foreign persons would know all our so-called confidential records and correspondence. 10. Being naïve I suggested that we develop our own operating system. I think a lot of savvy Government staff tried hard but got nowhere. There apparently is no bypassing the Internet. 11. Then some started talking about Linux, about open source. This opened up a lot of mind-boggling use of the computer. Seems that everyone can develop software etc. etc. 12. At that stage I gave up. 13. Now you are telling me about the Global Open Source development Club. I do not think I am qualified to be a member. 14. Still I appreciate the expertise and the knowledge that comes with it. 15. I was in Korea a few days back and I was amazed at this one-time hermit nation which has made use of modern technology to achieve what I would call wonders which
Re: [osdcmy] Fwd: Volunteers to help with IPv6 day measurements
What is the required machine specs? On 30 May 2011 11:26, ApOgEE jerung...@gmail.com wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6#Dual_IP_stack_implementation On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Mohd Hidzuan Zainul Hashim hidz...@gmail.com wrote: Menatang apa dual-stack ni.. Daku hanya tahu double chesse burger ajer .. Mintak tunjuk ajar sikit wahai pendeta? Regards, e1 Sent from GreenBerry®Mobile -- *From: * Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.com *Sender: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *Date: *Mon, 30 May 2011 11:10:04 +0800 *To: *osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [osdcmy] Fwd: Volunteers to help with IPv6 day measurements dual-stack, ipv4+ipv6 Hasanuddin Abu Bakar GSEC #28858 IT Security Engineer +6017 913 1983 Sigma Rectrix Systems (M) Sdn Bhd No.15 15-1, Jalan Equine 9A, Equine Park, Bandar Putra Permai 43300 Seri Kembangan Selangor URL : www.sigmarectrix.com Phone: 03-89486696 Fax : 03-89487796 Helpdesk : 03-89486596 On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Hanif Nordan hanifnor...@gmail.comwrote: dual stack machine mean kene ade server yang running ipv6 ke tu ? On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: ISOC MALAYSIA Chapter m...@isoc.my Date: 30 May 2011 09:39 Subject: Volunteers to help with IPv6 day measurements To: linuxmalay...@gmail.com linuxmalay...@gmail.com ISOC MALAYSIA Chapter http://www.isoc.my/ THE INTERNET IS FOR EVERYONE A message to all members of ISOC MALAYSIA Chapter OpenNMS (http://www.opennms.org) are seeking volunteers to host pollers for their distributed network monitoring solution for WIPv6 Day. They've an online form for the purpose of gathering volunteers here: https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dHlDT0RQeEhrTjA5eVoyMkdQdzd1REE6MQ Volunteers need to be able to provide a dual-stack machine to run the poller software, and it is desirable for this machine to be on as much of the time as possible, ideally 24/7. They're keen to have pollers on every (inhabited) continent, but don't currently have any from Malaysia. Visit ISOC MALAYSIA Chapter at: http://www.isoc.my/?xg_source=msg_mes_network To control which emails you receive on ISOC MALAYSIA Chapter, click herehttp://www.isoc.my/profiles/profile/emailSettings?xg_source=msg_mes_network -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ Milking the Cloud Competition for MOSC2011 http://www.mosc.my/articles/item/7-milking-the-cloud-competition-for-mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ Milking the Cloud Competition for MOSC2011 http://www.mosc.my/articles/item/7-milking-the-cloud-competition-for-mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ Milking the Cloud Competition for MOSC2011 http://www.mosc.my/articles/item/7-milking-the-cloud-competition-for-mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ Milking the Cloud Competition for MOSC2011 http://www.mosc.my/articles/item/7-milking-the-cloud-competition-for-mosc2011 -- Best Wishes, M. Fauzilkamil Zainuddin ApOgEE a.k.a JeRuNgKuN https://edge.launchpad.net/~apogee - ApOgEE on LaunchPad http://artofapogee.blogspot.com - Art Of ApOgEE http://coderstalk.blogspot.com - Coder's Talk -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ Milking the Cloud Competition for MOSC2011 http://www.mosc.my/articles/item/7-milking-the-cloud-competition-for-mosc2011 -- *** Together Protecting The Future Environment ** Please consider reading this email on-screen rather than printing. Should situation unavoidable, use recycled-paper. Plant More Trees. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ Milking the Cloud Competition for MOSC2011 http://www.mosc.my/articles/item/7-milking-the-cloud-competition-for-mosc2011
Re: [osdcmy] OTRS Project
Salam A.Johan, Global Transit (www.globaltransit.net) guna OTRS as our ticket monitoring system. What kind of support / service are you looking at? If you like, you may contact us at our NOC (n...@globaltransit.net) or email our Client Managers at (sa...@globaltransit.net). Or, you can just email directly to me -- azm...@gmail.com and I'll forward it to the respective department. Thank You. Regards, AZMI Salim On 24 May 2011 16:00, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: FYI http://otrs.org/ OTRS is an open source software system for managing a wide range of business processes, from Help Desk to Support Center to IT Service Management. Based on a set of functions built on a trouble ticket, OTRS is built to allow support, sales, pre-sales, billing, internal IT, support desk and many other departments to react quickly and responsibly to inbound inquires. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:46 PM, A Johan ajoha...@gmail.com wrote: Salam good day all, we are currently looking for persons or companies familiar with OTRS for a project. Those interested please email me their details of experience with OTRS to ajohan [at] gmail [dot] com thank you. -- A. Johan -- -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- *** Together Protecting The Future Environment ** Please consider reading this email on-screen rather than printing. Should situation unavoidable, use recycled-paper. Plant More Trees. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server
Salam Mr. Raja Iskandar Shah, I personally use Energy Monitoring System from Efergy, specifically Efergy E2. You can track / download the usage data from the device for later use, statistical data maybe? *hint-hint* ... hehhehe :) Regards, AZMI Salim On 20 April 2011 22:22, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: this article includes a response from the pm and tricubes http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/4/20/nation/20110420155327sec=nation#13033084438331if_height=583 fortunately i dont work at tricubes my sister used to work there before she quit about 5 years ago. she was a programmer doing the mobile smart card devices. by the way, anyone knows of any applicable technology that can be used for renewable energy / energy savings - i know of a glc who might be interested. any systems for monitoring / self-diagnosis of electricity consumption would be quite nice On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran mfazliaz...@gmail.comwrote: I love malaysia. :) Many news and many people have their own way to thinking and give various feedback. Many people still confuse what ETP for. Please read what ETP for. I not worried about this 50m project because it not from our gov public fund but it from private fund. This project was propose by tricubes to gov to make 1malaysia email. Because we not propose anything to our gov, our community just love to voice, blame, flame war and talk and talk and give good idea and many suggestion but who want to execute and implement it? Who? Don't blame tricubes because they get endorse by our gov about the project but blame our self why until now we not yet publish or do something and propose to our gov that we can do also same like tricubes do. What we must do now is proposal and paperwork and sent to our gov. We have many agency that we can propose like mimos, tpm, mdec, mampu, mcmc, intan, unik, miti, smidec, smecorp, terajun, pemandu and others. If we want beat tricubes we need to be like them too. We have many various level people in this group and of course many geek too and until now we still not unite and still talk behind each others and curse each others. If we done like above and we have the right voice to consult our gov why must use this and this. We done our part and then we have a right to blame our gov heheheh. Until now we not do like that as community but many people done but only for individually. So we are no where because we not voice as one. As above topic project maybe some one are behind that funded them the fund 50m to make 1malaysia email become reality. I don't want to know who are behind tricubes what I want to know is this 1malaysia email will be like use hotmail muahahahaha. Best Regards, Mohd Fazli Azran Sent by my BlackCerry® Smartphone Powered by Wireless DIGImon -- *From: * Hanxue Lee leehan...@gmail.com *Sender: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *Date: *Wed, 20 Apr 2011 21:28:06 +0800 *To: *osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia Secure Email Server Its a waste of taxpayer money. I do not see a need to develop a service (email) which is already well established in the private sector. The article did say Najib disclosed today the email account will allow direct and secure communication between the public and the government, and is part of a new one-stop web portal for government services. To give the benefit of doubt, perhaps its an initiative to have a one-stop solution for Malaysian citizens to interact with its government, similar to Singapore's e-Citizen http://www.ecitizen.gov.sg/ ? Best regards, Hanxue On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:01 PM, darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.comwrote: phew...50m even we have paperwork,proposal,manpower and all things,will they trust us?that job already taken by tricubes.and i cant thing one way to prevent this.we already have OSDC,but even OSDC is under gov sector (sorry if i mistake about this),already deploy so much FLOSS server inside gov sector,n they look like we doesnt exist. maybe someone should poke him. if i got that job,50m.i will_.:D On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote: hi, all you FLOSS guys out there, http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/1-malaysia-email-provider-tricubes-at-risk-of-delisting/ the above article Tricubes Bhd’s RM50 million contract to develop the 1 Malaysia email service could be the financial lifeline of the information technology firm which is at risk of being delisted... The 1 Malaysia Mail Server is meant to provide secure email services to Malaysians for their dealings with the government, and to counter the fact that a lot of the free email accounts are hosted on servers outside of Malaysia, and hence expose the data 50M to 'develop
Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server
Salam Mr. Raja, You don't need an IP camera and image capture thingy to harvest the data from the EF2, it comes with USB cable and a software in CD to retrieve the data from it. Data is saved in the device itself for six months. You just have to connect the USB cable, start the software in WinMachine... :) and you can retrieve and export it to any other format such as .CSV http://www.efergy.com I bought it last year, and it affords us a GREAT purpose and significantly reducing our electrical energy by making us more aware. We set it to monitor at 3-seconds interval. As for humidity and temperature sensor, a crude way would be to purchase a simple weather monitor that can save the data and retrieved later. Regards, AZMI Salim On 21 April 2011 12:15, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: azmi, yes ! we want to add devices to an analytics framework. i also want to add image recognition component and use a simple ip camera to capture an image of the electricity meters every 10 minutes, so that i can do a pattern. other devices will be temp and humidity sensors On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 12:06 PM, AZMI salim azm...@gmail.com wrote: Salam Mr. Raja Iskandar Shah, I personally use Energy Monitoring System from Efergy, specifically Efergy E2. You can track / download the usage data from the device for later use, statistical data maybe? *hint-hint* ... hehhehe :) Regards, AZMI Salim On 20 April 2011 22:22, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.comwrote: this article includes a response from the pm and tricubes http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/4/20/nation/20110420155327sec=nation#13033084438331if_height=583 fortunately i dont work at tricubes my sister used to work there before she quit about 5 years ago. she was a programmer doing the mobile smart card devices. by the way, anyone knows of any applicable technology that can be used for renewable energy / energy savings - i know of a glc who might be interested. any systems for monitoring / self-diagnosis of electricity consumption would be quite nice On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran mfazliaz...@gmail.com wrote: I love malaysia. :) Many news and many people have their own way to thinking and give various feedback. Many people still confuse what ETP for. Please read what ETP for. I not worried about this 50m project because it not from our gov public fund but it from private fund. This project was propose by tricubes to gov to make 1malaysia email. Because we not propose anything to our gov, our community just love to voice, blame, flame war and talk and talk and give good idea and many suggestion but who want to execute and implement it? Who? Don't blame tricubes because they get endorse by our gov about the project but blame our self why until now we not yet publish or do something and propose to our gov that we can do also same like tricubes do. What we must do now is proposal and paperwork and sent to our gov. We have many agency that we can propose like mimos, tpm, mdec, mampu, mcmc, intan, unik, miti, smidec, smecorp, terajun, pemandu and others. If we want beat tricubes we need to be like them too. We have many various level people in this group and of course many geek too and until now we still not unite and still talk behind each others and curse each others. If we done like above and we have the right voice to consult our gov why must use this and this. We done our part and then we have a right to blame our gov heheheh. Until now we not do like that as community but many people done but only for individually. So we are no where because we not voice as one. As above topic project maybe some one are behind that funded them the fund 50m to make 1malaysia email become reality. I don't want to know who are behind tricubes what I want to know is this 1malaysia email will be like use hotmail muahahahaha. Best Regards, Mohd Fazli Azran Sent by my BlackCerry® Smartphone Powered by Wireless DIGImon -- *From: * Hanxue Lee leehan...@gmail.com *Sender: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *Date: *Wed, 20 Apr 2011 21:28:06 +0800 *To: *osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia Secure Email Server Its a waste of taxpayer money. I do not see a need to develop a service (email) which is already well established in the private sector. The article did say Najib disclosed today the email account will allow direct and secure communication between the public and the government, and is part of a new one-stop web portal for government services. To give the benefit of doubt, perhaps its an initiative to have a one-stop solution for Malaysian citizens to interact with its government, similar to Singapore's e-Citizen http://www.ecitizen.gov.sg/ ? Best regards, Hanxue On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:01 PM
Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server
By the way Mr. Raja, NAGIOS could perform environmental monitoring too, with the help or hardwares of course. Surf to www.nagios.org Regards, AZMI Salim On 21 April 2011 12:29, AZMI salim azm...@gmail.com wrote: Salam Mr. Raja, You don't need an IP camera and image capture thingy to harvest the data from the EF2, it comes with USB cable and a software in CD to retrieve the data from it. Data is saved in the device itself for six months. You just have to connect the USB cable, start the software in WinMachine... :) and you can retrieve and export it to any other format such as .CSV http://www.efergy.com I bought it last year, and it affords us a GREAT purpose and significantly reducing our electrical energy by making us more aware. We set it to monitor at 3-seconds interval. As for humidity and temperature sensor, a crude way would be to purchase a simple weather monitor that can save the data and retrieved later. Regards, AZMI Salim On 21 April 2011 12:15, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.comwrote: azmi, yes ! we want to add devices to an analytics framework. i also want to add image recognition component and use a simple ip camera to capture an image of the electricity meters every 10 minutes, so that i can do a pattern. other devices will be temp and humidity sensors On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 12:06 PM, AZMI salim azm...@gmail.com wrote: Salam Mr. Raja Iskandar Shah, I personally use Energy Monitoring System from Efergy, specifically Efergy E2. You can track / download the usage data from the device for later use, statistical data maybe? *hint-hint* ... hehhehe :) Regards, AZMI Salim On 20 April 2011 22:22, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.comwrote: this article includes a response from the pm and tricubes http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/4/20/nation/20110420155327sec=nation#13033084438331if_height=583 fortunately i dont work at tricubes my sister used to work there before she quit about 5 years ago. she was a programmer doing the mobile smart card devices. by the way, anyone knows of any applicable technology that can be used for renewable energy / energy savings - i know of a glc who might be interested. any systems for monitoring / self-diagnosis of electricity consumption would be quite nice On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran mfazliaz...@gmail.com wrote: I love malaysia. :) Many news and many people have their own way to thinking and give various feedback. Many people still confuse what ETP for. Please read what ETP for. I not worried about this 50m project because it not from our gov public fund but it from private fund. This project was propose by tricubes to gov to make 1malaysia email. Because we not propose anything to our gov, our community just love to voice, blame, flame war and talk and talk and give good idea and many suggestion but who want to execute and implement it? Who? Don't blame tricubes because they get endorse by our gov about the project but blame our self why until now we not yet publish or do something and propose to our gov that we can do also same like tricubes do. What we must do now is proposal and paperwork and sent to our gov. We have many agency that we can propose like mimos, tpm, mdec, mampu, mcmc, intan, unik, miti, smidec, smecorp, terajun, pemandu and others. If we want beat tricubes we need to be like them too. We have many various level people in this group and of course many geek too and until now we still not unite and still talk behind each others and curse each others. If we done like above and we have the right voice to consult our gov why must use this and this. We done our part and then we have a right to blame our gov heheheh. Until now we not do like that as community but many people done but only for individually. So we are no where because we not voice as one. As above topic project maybe some one are behind that funded them the fund 50m to make 1malaysia email become reality. I don't want to know who are behind tricubes what I want to know is this 1malaysia email will be like use hotmail muahahahaha. Best Regards, Mohd Fazli Azran Sent by my BlackCerry® Smartphone Powered by Wireless DIGImon -- *From: * Hanxue Lee leehan...@gmail.com *Sender: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *Date: *Wed, 20 Apr 2011 21:28:06 +0800 *To: *osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia Secure Email Server Its a waste of taxpayer money. I do not see a need to develop a service (email) which is already well established in the private sector. The article did say Najib disclosed today the email account will allow direct and secure communication between the public and the government, and is part of a new one-stop web portal for government services. To give the benefit of doubt
Re: [osdcmy] Mirror Mirror For OSS in Malaysia
+100 TIME Fibre Broadband. On 28 March 2011 11:08, Hafiz Bhari executab...@gmail.com wrote: Kita langgan unifi dan buat mirror dirumah masing-masing. Amacam? On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Criteria depends on each of the mirror that you want to mirror. For example from Ubuntu Mirror https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors Internet Bandwidth around 100MBS or 1GBS. and disk space 382GB of disk space for the Ubuntu package archive. 39GB for Ubuntu release CD images. Last setup for OSCC MAMPU I had set it up using sedot for mirror management. https://launchpad.net/sedot 2) The Benefit - We return back to OSS community by off load mirror servers around the world. Malaysia mirrors will be used request from Malaysia. - Faster request (suppose to) because the mirror should be in Malaysia Internet network. Tak perlu lalu kabel dasar laut Jepun atau Hong Kong yang selalu putus. :) - For popularity. Name of the mirror will be place at Mirror website of each of Distros that we mirror. - Good for our telekom company. The traffic for mirror locally in Malaysia, rather than across the ocean. Cheaper fee for the cabel. Telekom should give discount to our mirror providers. - Hasanuddin has a good point. On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 8:52 AM, ta...@sabily.my wrote: Yes brother, agree with you. What is the criteria to become a mirror. And another thing is, what is the benefit if we become a mirror. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- Regards, Hafiz -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- *** Together Protecting The Future Environment ** Please consider reading this email on-screen rather than printing. Should situation unavoidable, use recycled-paper. Plant More Trees. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Re: URL/Content Filtering spec
Rusty's brain broke?...need to go the shrink then...kesian, dah lah rusty, broken plak tu...hehehhehe :) 2011/3/22 Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.com ClearOS hanya mampu menampung 2000 user dengan spec server HP Proliant DL380G7 dual Xeon E5620 dan 16GB RAM. Dengan user 2000 ke atas ClearOS mengalami kernel panic dan sebagainya kerana connection/ip_conntrack yang melebihi 100k seperti di bawah. Saya rasa ini adalah masalah gc_thresh1 CentOS. Neighbour table overflow. MASQUERADE: No route: Rusty's brain broke! On Mar 22, 1:54 pm, Mohd Hidzuan Zainul Hashim hidz...@gmail.com wrote: ClearOS boleh tuan .. Regards, e1 Sent from GreenBerry®Mobile -Original Message- From: Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.com Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 22:00:38 To: OSDC.my Mailing Listosdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Cc: syaz...@openkod.com Subject: [osdcmy] URL/Content Filtering spec Salam sejahtera, Saya meminta pendapat mengenai hardware dan software untuk URL/Content Filtering yang mampu menampung concurrent user sebanyak 7000 orang. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this grouphttp:// portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011http://fb.me/mosc2011andhttp://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- *** Together Protecting The Future Environment ** Please consider reading this email on-screen rather than printing. Should situation unavoidable, use recycled-paper. Plant More Trees. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Skalicloud - Is it true ?
Global Transit has direct peering with providers in SG. Maybe you can try to discuss with your respective ISPs to swing the route thru Global Transit...maybe even better, go direct with Global Transit :) Regards, AZMI Salim www.globaltransit.net On 14 March 2011 18:44, Garfield WTF garfi...@debmal.my wrote: Well, skali is quite a reputable company, so it is not a scam. You will get the product if you pay them. While about the quality... erm you judge it yourself... Anyway, myself also plan to provide cloud hosting too. About the price... I dun think anyone of you will like the price... Muahahaha -- *GarfieldWTF http://garfield.in* Debian User Community (Malaysia) *http://debmal.my* - *CS Squad VPS Hosting http://cart.cs-squad.net/cart.php?gid=1* -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- *** Together Protecting The Future Environment ** Please consider reading this email on-screen rather than printing. Should situation unavoidable, use recycled-paper. Plant More Trees. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011
Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian
ada button Like x? saya setuju point#2 utk rebranding mana-mana linux distro utk jadi nama LinuxMalaysia :) tuan haris dah trademark ke perkataan LinuxMalaysia tu? hehheheh :) regards, azmi 2011/3/13 Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com Assalamualaikum dan salam sejahtera, Sebentar tadi baru saya terfikir, sedang kita minta mana-mana Distros untuk release source codes mereka, kita sebenarnya meminta yang sememang telah disebarkan oleh setiap projek dan perisian OSS yang dalam Distros. Sebagai contoh :- 1) Apabila sesebuah Distros mengatakan mereka base on Linux, maka dengan sendirinya kita boleh dapatkan source codes Kernel Linux dan apa jua yang digunakan oleh Distro tersebut terus daripada projek websites. Kita hanya perlu tahu apa yang mereka gunakan dan thats it. Source codes sememang ada dimana. Soalan saya, kepada pengguna Linux Distro seperti Debian, Ubuntu, OpenSuse dan Fedora, siapa yang config repos atau yum atau apt untuk download source codes RPM atau DEB. Saya pun tak mahu sebab terlalu besar 2) Jika ada customization atau sebarang trademark dimasukkan dalam hasil Distro maka ia adalah hak punya pembuatnya dan pemilik trademark. Sebagai contoh, jika kita ambil CD ubuntu dan keluarkan semua dalam CD tersebut apa jua trademark Ubuntu, dan sebarkan semula sebagai CD Linux, maka kita tidak salah.. Sebab isi perut CD adalah perisian OSS. Kita telah keluarkan perkara yang Canonical akan marah, perkataan dan logo Ubuntu. Begitu juga dalam kes Centos. Semua trademark dan copyright dan apa jua software bukan OSS telah dikeluarkan dan disebarkan semula sebagai Centos. Red Hat tidak bising pun... Malah secara tidak rasmi membantu pihak komuniti Centos untuk kenal pasti mana Red Hat yang punya dan diminta dikeluarkan. Jadi soalan saya, jika saya ambil asal dulu CD ubuntu yang dah jadi CD Linux kemudian saya customize dan masukkan logo dan apa jua nama saya dan namakan Distro LinuxMalaysia, adakah saya salah? 3) Apa juga perisian yang dibuat sendiri pembangun adalah hak mereka. Sekiranya mereka putuskan apa yang mereka tulis dan compile adalah copyright mereka dan source codes hak mereka, maka itu hak mereka. Jika mereka sebarkan dalam CD Linux distros pun, kita masih tiada hak untuk menuntut mereka perlu tunjukkan source codes. Perisian tertutup yang dijalankan atas Linux yang sumber terbuka tiada kaitan apa pun dari segi lesen. Lesen anda adalah lesen anda dan lesen saya adalah lesen saya. Yang terdekat adalah Googlebuntu. Banyak lagi saya nak tulis tapi sudah jauh malam dan mengantuk, saya biarkan ini dulu untuk perbincangan. Wassalam. Harisfazillah Jamel -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- *** Together Protecting The Future Environment ** Please consider reading this email on-screen rather than printing. Should situation unavoidable, use recycled-paper. Plant More Trees. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011
[osdcmy] maybe off-topic: I like Gmail
sorry, off topic skit. - I like Gmail coz ada conversation view yg boleh klik and scroll email in conversation view. - I am not a programmer nor that experienced on any specific programming language - How I wish Thunderbird or any OSS email client ada conversation view like Gmail. senang nak baca email :) My most humble intention here is to highlight one point: - people will use or even migrate to use something a bit more simple to use, they don't mind paying, even better if it is free to use. Case in point: Hotmail to Gmail, my own experience :) - Hotmail has been in business long before Gmail - Hotmail users migrated to Gmail due to HUGE theoretical space offerings (not that much actually, just setting the mindset to capture users - Hotmail users migrated to Gmail due to many user friendly tools like the conversation view, among others. Another case in point: Windows vs Mac - simple: ease of use although everyone knows Mac is super expensive and vendor locked much tighter (I call it a full ecosystem) than M$ Windows - I think people won't complaint too much if it is easy to use and worth their investment without too much of headache due to much little nitty gritty hassles such as the infamous Blue Screen of Death. That is what I can think of for now. Thank You. Regards, AZMI -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011
Re: [osdcmy] Interesting survey by Accenture on FOSS
and I heard CyberSecurity / MyCERT uses Ubuntu Linux. dono true or not though... Regards, AZMI On 6 March 2011 19:40, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Yes. Do agree. During my years in bank, Linux in use since 1999, we have used Linux for backend server like DNS and File sharing server (https and sftp). Only with open source we can compile to requirement of Bank Negara. For example all connection must encrypted. That requirement since the year of 1999. I have to install openssh in HP-UX and Sun Solaris to replace telnet and ftp. With the introduction of HP-UX 11 and 11i, and the support of GCC in HP-UX and Open Solaris 8 we manage to run numbers of OSS in them. I hear a bank using Linux as LTS terminal for running tellers counter. Network always the one that will use OSS. For example monitoring Servers and ATM Nagios will be used. I say miss my old days On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote: hi, here is an interstg survey I came across, its findings are that the financial services sector has the highest adoption for OSS, and public sector (gov) is the lowest! have fun: -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- *** Together Protecting The Future Environment ** Please consider reading this email on-screen rather than printing. Should situation unavoidable, use recycled-paper. Plant More Trees. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy-public] .my Domain Registry now support Jawi IDN
Kuka Kula :) On 27 January 2011 21:52, sallehy sall...@gmail.com wrote: Teringat saya...jika ke Kota Bharu banyak signboard tulisan Jawi...[?][?] [image: Building2.jpg] Sokong teknologi untuk pembangunan semula tulisan Jawi.[?] On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Mohamad Imran imtym@gmail.comwrote: Generasi ku merupakan generasi yang sangat lemah dalam penguasaan tulisan jawi, Jadi kami sangat mengalu-alukan penggunaan teknologi untuk menyuburkan kembali tulisan ini yang menjadi alat komunikasi rakyat satu ketika dulu. 2011/1/27 Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com Assalamualaikum... Terima kasih atas kepercyaan sallehy... projek utk tulisan jawi dalam list kami.. tp blum ada pembangunnya lg.. sy sedang merangka projek ini bersma komuniti Sabily Malaysia. seperti mna yg pernah sy katakn. insyaallah kami akn menghidupkn semula suasana jawi di malaysia yang mna dahulunya.. smua menggunakan jawi. sy juga memberi peluang kepada mereka yg berminat utk menyertai projek ini. sy mmpunyai bnyk tugasan jadi sy akan merangka permulaan projek dan kemudian mnyerahkn kepada mereka yg berminat.. sy lbh suka research.. n slalunya sy xsmbg projek2 yg ada.. oleh itu kepada yg berminat blh bjumpa dgn sy bagi merangka awalan projek. sekian. terima kasih! 2011/1/27 sallehy sall...@gmail.com Saya boleh taip Arabic dalam Ubuntu, tetapi untuk Jawi belum ketemu. Mungkin ada feedback dari Sabily Malaysia? :) On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 7:35 AM, Umarzuki Bin Mochlis Moktar u...@umarzuki.org wrote: I attended the .my IDN lauching back on 2009. There seems a university (UPM?) SIRIM doing some research about Jawi format/standards (this thing going on like a million years already) but I bet nothing got done by now. And there's the lingering issue of the hamzah 3 suku (3/4) character that is not supported by unicode. There's the arabeyes project for arabic font, but from what I heard it does not supports the jawi script (I asked its developer). Maybe Persian/Urdu font can be used since that is the origin of Jawi characters (AFAIK) but still the same issue with not supporting all the jawi characters. If you can view all the Jawi characters on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jawi_script that means you distro supports it and I can view it on Debian Squeeze. On Thu, 2011-01-27 at 02:37 +0800, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte wrote: Interesting. Perhaps it would be of interest to those supporters of Jawi as the national script. I have nothing against Jawi; I actually learnt Jawi in primary school, but have unlearnt it over the years since both in work and school we use the Roman/Phoenecian script. It is sad that even the Government is not interested in maintaining Jawi. BTW can Jawi be typed in any of the distros? Eric 2011/1/26 azmi salim azm...@gmail.com: Hi there friends, An interesting development on IDN, .my Domain Resgistry has announced support for Jawi IDN, on top of other Unicode, European and some other selected Asian characters. Maybe you guys / gals have know this, nevertheless I'm fwd'ing it for an update. Pardon for repetition :) Regards, AZMI Salim following is some excerpts of the announcement --- Dear Valued Customers, We are proud to announce that .my DOMAIN REGISTRY now supports Internationalized Domain Name (IDN). An IDN (also known as multilingual domain name) is a domain name that contains Unicode characters other than the basic 37 ASCII characters permitted to-date (a-z , 0-9 and -). In other words, an IDN may contain letters with diacritics (for example, façade) as required by many European languages or characters drawn from non-Latin scripts such as Jawi / Arabic, Chinese or Tamil. Many countries have started to offer domain names in their local scripts to allow more of their population access the Internet. Amongst the first few countries to deploy top level IDN are Egypt (مصر ), Saudi Arabia (السعودية ) and United Arab Emirates (امارات ) – all on the 5th May 2010. Even two of our neighboring countries, Thailand and Singapore, have implemented IDN. For Malaysia, we have decided to offer 2nd Level IDNs, starting with Jawi (for example, مليسيا.my). Chinese and Tamil IDNs are also in the pipeline and will be implemented progressively. For Jawi IDNs, the roll out will be in 3 phases. In the first phase, registration of Jawi IDNs is specifically for government agencies and government educational entities. Registrations start from 24th January 2011 until 30th April 2011. The first phase Jawi IDNs will be free of charge for one year. Government agencies and government educational entities are encouraged to secure their Jawi IDNs as soon as possible. Existing .my customers will enjoy Jawi IDNs in the second phase, and in the third phase, Jawi IDNs will be opened to the public. Do keep an eye open
Re: [osdcmy-public] A Response Letter to the Word Attachments
Sorry, a bit curios here. Why LibreOffice and not OpenOffice.org? OMG, I hope I'm not initiating flaming war here though :-) Regards, AZMI Salim On 28 January 2011 08:36, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.comwrote: A Response Letter to the Word Attachments The document you have sent is not an Internet mail format. It is a proprietary format that is unreadable on several types of computers, including those used by visually-impaired readers and older computers used in foreign countries. In most cases, the size of the file is substantially larger than a plain-text file containing the same information. (Even if it LOOKS like plain-text to you, chances are it is not, and contains a considerable amount of unnecessary formatting codes, printer information, etc.) In addition, Word documents are often infected with viruses. Excel, Access, and Power Point files are also vulnerable to infection. Please “Save As” DOS Text, HTML or Portable Document Format (PDF) and send the resulting file as an attachment. Another option is to simply type your message directly into mail then you won't need to use an attachment at all. In the highly unlikely event that your document cannot be converted to an open, non-proprietary format, consider posting it on a web page, and sending e-mail with the URL which points to the file. Thank you. ps. Please forward to your friends. Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html LibreOffice http://www.libreoffice.org/ LibreOffice is the free power-packed Open Source personal productivity suite for Windows, Macintosh and Linux, that gives you six feature-rich applications for all your document production and data processing needs: Writer, Calc, Impress, Draw, Math and Base. Archive http://linuxmalaysia.harisfazillah.info/2011/01/response-letter-to-word-attachments.html -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- *** Together Protecting The Future Environment ** Please consider reading this email on-screen rather than printing. Should situation unavoidable, use recycled-paper. Plant More Trees. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
Re: [osdcmy-public] A Response Letter to the Word Attachments
sweet, thanx bros... On 28 January 2011 10:03, Mohd Fazli Azran mfazliaz...@gmail.com wrote: It up to the user want to use LO or OO. It same family like brother and sister .. Hate but love :D On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 9:59 AM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: Word Documents, Just Say NO On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Hehehe. Dont worry no flame war here. I just want to promote another alternative for Office Suite. OpenOffice already been promoted for number of years.. On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 9:32 AM, azmi salim azm...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, a bit curios here. Why LibreOffice and not OpenOffice.org? OMG, I hope I'm not initiating flaming war here though :-) -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- *** Together Protecting The Future Environment ** Please consider reading this email on-screen rather than printing. Should situation unavoidable, use recycled-paper. Plant More Trees. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
Re: [osdcmy-public] A Response Letter to the Word Attachments
we've been using OOo all this while, but, for certain commercial purpose, need to use M$ Powerpoint still, due to incompatibility. However, please be informed that, as much as possible, I've converted those slides to PDF too, just to make sure we refrain from using that M$ Presentation software, and also no ciplak of idea can happen :) On 28 January 2011 10:26, azmi salim azm...@gmail.com wrote: sweet, thanx bros... On 28 January 2011 10:03, Mohd Fazli Azran mfazliaz...@gmail.com wrote: It up to the user want to use LO or OO. It same family like brother and sister .. Hate but love :D On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 9:59 AM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: Word Documents, Just Say NO On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Hehehe. Dont worry no flame war here. I just want to promote another alternative for Office Suite. OpenOffice already been promoted for number of years.. On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 9:32 AM, azmi salim azm...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, a bit curios here. Why LibreOffice and not OpenOffice.org? OMG, I hope I'm not initiating flaming war here though :-) -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- *** Together Protecting The Future Environment ** Please consider reading this email on-screen rather than printing. Should situation unavoidable, use recycled-paper. Plant More Trees. -- *** Together Protecting The Future Environment ** Please consider reading this email on-screen rather than printing. Should situation unavoidable, use recycled-paper. Plant More Trees. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
[osdcmy-public] .my Domain Registry now support Jawi IDN
Hi there friends, An interesting development on IDN, .my Domain Resgistry has announced support for Jawi IDN, on top of other Unicode, European and some other selected Asian characters. Maybe you guys / gals have know this, nevertheless I'm fwd'ing it for an update. Pardon for repetition :) Regards, AZMI Salim following is some excerpts of the announcement --- Dear Valued Customers, We are proud to announce that .my DOMAIN REGISTRY now supports Internationalized Domain Name (IDN). An IDN (also known as multilingual domain name) is a domain name that contains Unicode characters other than the basic 37 ASCII characters permitted to-date (a-z , 0-9 and -). In other words, an IDN may contain letters with diacritics (for example, façade) as required by many European languages or characters drawn from non-Latin scripts such as Jawi / Arabic, Chinese or Tamil. Many countries have started to offer domain names in their local scripts to allow more of their population access the Internet. Amongst the first few countries to deploy top level IDN are Egypt (مصر ), Saudi Arabia (السعودية ) and United Arab Emirates (امارات ) – all on the 5th May 2010. Even two of our neighboring countries, Thailand and Singapore, have implemented IDN. For Malaysia, we have decided to offer 2nd Level IDNs, starting with Jawi (for example, مليسيا.my). Chinese and Tamil IDNs are also in the pipeline and will be implemented progressively. For Jawi IDNs, the roll out will be in 3 phases. In the first phase, registration of Jawi IDNs is specifically for government agencies and government educational entities. Registrations start from 24th January 2011 until 30th April 2011. The first phase Jawi IDNs will be free of charge for one year. Government agencies and government educational entities are encouraged to secure their Jawi IDNs as soon as possible. Existing .my customers will enjoy Jawi IDNs in the second phase, and in the third phase, Jawi IDNs will be opened to the public. Do keep an eye open for the announcements on the second and third phase roll out to secure your own Jawi IDN! For more information about IDN, do visit our FAQ page at http://www.domainregistry.my/faq.php?id=98. Please do not hesitate to e-mail dom...@domainregistry.my or call us at 03 - 8991 7272 if you have any enquiries. Yours sincerely, .my DOMAIN REGISTRY MYNIC Berhad (735031-H) | Tel : +603-8991 7272 Level 3, Block C| Fax : +603-8991 7277 Mines Waterfront Business Park| E-mail : dom...@domainregistry.my (Registration) No. 3, Jalan Tasik | bill...@domainregistry.my (Billing) The Mines Resort City | URL: http://www.domainregistry.my 43300 Seri Kembangan | Work. Hr : 0830-1730MYT(Mon - Fri) Selangor Darul Ehsan | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
Re: [osdcmy-public] Sudah kena
thanx for informing :) 2010/12/29 Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com ha3... dh tau kn. 2010/12/29 Sir Beyta sir.be...@gmail.com ape ni ? xfaham lah~ On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Hafiz Bhari executab...@gmail.comwrote: Kita sudah kena. http://rtm.com.my/ -- Regards, Hafiz -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- Beyta Website : http://www.beyta.net -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- *Maui Sabily 2010* *GPG KeyID*: DBDA3074 *GPG Fingerprint*: 3CCE D281 C894 4FB0 3D22 2141 75C6 E41F DBDA 3074 Soire Meira 2008 - 2010 EascobaNET, Inc 2006 - 2010 ch...@thack 2002 PaleoY2K 1998 - 2000 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- *** Together Protecting The Future Environment ** Please consider reading this email on-screen rather than printing. Should situation unavoidable, use recycled-paper. Plant More Trees. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information
Re: [osdcmy-public] Our lovely Malaysian Linux Distribution, simpleLinux has updated to version 3.0. As in 26/10/10.
Tahniah !!! On 30 October 2010 10:37, simpleLinux 2fz...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everybody, we are waiting to hear from the admin of distrowatch about the inclusion of simpleLinux into their database. hope that works On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 8:45 AM, sallehy sall...@gmail.com wrote: Good Job On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 5:29 AM, Sir Beyta sir.be...@gmail.com wrote: wahh.. nice~ On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 9:41 PM, MASOKIS maso...@gmail.com wrote: taniah :) On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Mohamad Imran imtym@gmail.comwrote: +1 2010/10/29 simpleLinux 2fz...@gmail.com: Hello everybody, Glad to announce that we have release the simpleLinux EXT (Extended) version 3.0 by 26/10/10. It is now available for download hosted at by Averse.net (still that UPM - Universiti Putra Malaysia mirror doesn't RSYNCEd yet, so It might take a while, however). We are proud to make it keep working and thus, not terminated -- separuh jalan. Moreover, we love free softwares; that might be collected into one place; but, with small size. (p/s free Malaysian open source software is just like a monster that become bigger and bigger) -- Fariz Luqman The Chairman of SimpleLinux Visit: http://www.simplelinux.tk There IS a Malaysian Linux Distro -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Aku Tetap Aku™ http://maklan.blogspot.com/ https://launchpad.net/~maklanx https://launchpad.net/%7Emaklanx http://www.facebook.com/mohamadimranishak -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- VISIT ME @ HTTP://WWW.MASOKIS.COM -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- -Beyta -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Fariz Luqman The Chairman of SimpleLinux Visit: http://www.simplelinux.tk There IS a Malaysian Linux Distro -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this
Re: [osdcmy-public] Re: PTPTN debtors list with their IC and status (backlisted,warned or else)
nice one Tuan Raja :) On 14 October 2010 11:24, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.comwrote: finished downloading, now etl to our profile module then boleh cross-reference to our spr database. kalau ada geographical location, boleh plot the data to map ;-) muahahahaha On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Hasan Abu Bakar ha...@kelate.com.mywrote: sorry wrong mailist.. On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 10:44 AM, yccheok yancheng.ch...@gmail.comwrote: Why don't you pay back your debt to PTPTN? out of topic..paid or not, the name will still on the list. On Oct 14, 10:25 am, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar hasanud...@sigmarectrix.com wrote: Another identity exposed flaw by PTPTN :) Why am I exposing this? because I GOT MY NAME AND IC ON IT DAMN IT!!...with final warning see it yourselfhttp:// eform.ptptn.gov.my:8080/PortalXS/web_200710_sen.txt WARNING!! file size 26MB with 226369 debtors..so better wget or something before see it. -- Hasanuddin Abu Bakar GSEC #28858 IT Security Engineer +6017 913 1983 Sigma Rectrix Systems (M) Sdn Bhd No.15 15-1, Jalan Equine 9A, Equine Park, Bandar Putra Permai 43300 Seri Kembangan Selangor URL :www.sigmarectrix.com Phone: 03-89486696 Fax : 03-89487796 Helpdesk : 03-89486596 -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Hasanuddin Abu Bakar IT Security Engineer +6017 913 1983 Sigma Rectrix Systems (M) Sdn Bhd No.15 15-1, Jalan Equine 9A, Equine Park, Bandar Putra Permai 43300 Seri Kembangan Selangor URL : www.sigmarectrix.com Phone: 03-89486696 Fax : 03-89487796 Helpdesk : 03-89486596 -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
Re: [osdcmy-public] Fwd: Intrusion Prevention
For DDoS Detection: Bandwidth Monitoring - guna software nama Cacti, if ada traffic spike, then maybe ada DDoS attempt lah Traffic Monitoring (Realtime) - guna software nama ourmon - manual and a bit tiring if monitor sorang-sorang, try buat script utk capture apa yang ourmon tu capture Traffic Analysis - guna software nama Arbor - kinda cool, tapi mahal lah... On 2 September 2010 17:30, simpleLinux 2fz...@gmail.com wrote: 5 tips for dealing with rootkits http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/five-tips/?p=272tag=nl.e101 I've read this blog, this blog is somehow can help us deal with those bad things Thanks bro.. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:28 PM, simpleLinux 2fz...@gmail.com wrote: The term *rootkit* or *root kit* originally referred to a maliciously modified set of administrative tools for a Unix-like operating system, which granted root access. If an intruder could replace the standard administrative tools on a system with a rootkit, the intruder could obtain root access over the system while concealing these activities from the legitimate system administrator. These early rootkits were trivial to detect by using uncompromised tools to access the same information - Wikipedia (Rootkit) As we see here, rootkit mainly affect UNIX-like systems, including Linux and Mac OS X. Thats why Linux servers are easier to hack via Defacement, as well as Root Kit... People running Linux should install Rootkit Hunter: http://www.rootkit.nl/projects/rootkit_hunter.html http://www.rootkit.com/ --- There are things that we can gain from this. Eventually, if this attack goes on, we will progressively improve our defense, thus strengthen our web space security. Thanks to them for volunteering to help us create a safer web. =) Chill out brothers/sis! I'm agree... We somehow can be immune to those massive defacements and rootkits as we can use their knowledge on hacking for us to improve ourselves... On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: 5 tips for dealing with rootkits http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/five-tips/?p=272tag=nl.e101 On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 9:14 PM, simpleLinux 2fz...@gmail.com wrote: Linux has a verrryyy common trojan, namely Rootkit that one can gain super-user privilege toward some root directory http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rootkit They can easily gained access to your root of a website and do something bad there On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Aizuddin kaibatheleg...@gmail.comwrote: The Best offense is . defense. :D 2010/9/1 simpleLinux 2fz...@gmail.com Yes. betul juga... Saya gunakan server Windows 7 je... Lebih baik kita pertahankan website kita -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Fariz Luqman The Chairman of SimpleLinux Visit: http://www.simplelinux.tk There IS a Malaysian Linux Distro -- Fariz Luqman The Chairman of SimpleLinux Visit: http://www.simplelinux.tk There IS a Malaysian Linux Distro -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- *** Together Protecting The Future Environment ** Please consider reading this email on-screen rather than printing. Should situation unavoidable, use recycled-paper. Plant More Trees. -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
Re: [osdcmy-public] Fwd: Intrusion Prevention
Boleh gak try yang ni... nama software, Munin: http://munin-monitoring.org/ On 2 September 2010 18:37, azmi salim azm...@gmail.com wrote: For DDoS Detection: Bandwidth Monitoring - guna software nama Cacti, if ada traffic spike, then maybe ada DDoS attempt lah Traffic Monitoring (Realtime) - guna software nama ourmon - manual and a bit tiring if monitor sorang-sorang, try buat script utk capture apa yang ourmon tu capture Traffic Analysis - guna software nama Arbor - kinda cool, tapi mahal lah... On 2 September 2010 17:30, simpleLinux 2fz...@gmail.com wrote: 5 tips for dealing with rootkits http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/five-tips/?p=272tag=nl.e101 I've read this blog, this blog is somehow can help us deal with those bad things Thanks bro.. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:28 PM, simpleLinux 2fz...@gmail.com wrote: The term *rootkit* or *root kit* originally referred to a maliciously modified set of administrative tools for a Unix-like operating system, which granted root access. If an intruder could replace the standard administrative tools on a system with a rootkit, the intruder could obtain root access over the system while concealing these activities from the legitimate system administrator. These early rootkits were trivial to detect by using uncompromised tools to access the same information - Wikipedia (Rootkit) As we see here, rootkit mainly affect UNIX-like systems, including Linux and Mac OS X. Thats why Linux servers are easier to hack via Defacement, as well as Root Kit... People running Linux should install Rootkit Hunter: http://www.rootkit.nl/projects/rootkit_hunter.html http://www.rootkit.com/ --- There are things that we can gain from this. Eventually, if this attack goes on, we will progressively improve our defense, thus strengthen our web space security. Thanks to them for volunteering to help us create a safer web. =) Chill out brothers/sis! I'm agree... We somehow can be immune to those massive defacements and rootkits as we can use their knowledge on hacking for us to improve ourselves... On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: 5 tips for dealing with rootkits http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/five-tips/?p=272tag=nl.e101 On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 9:14 PM, simpleLinux 2fz...@gmail.com wrote: Linux has a verrryyy common trojan, namely Rootkit that one can gain super-user privilege toward some root directory http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rootkit They can easily gained access to your root of a website and do something bad there On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Aizuddin kaibatheleg...@gmail.comwrote: The Best offense is . defense. :D 2010/9/1 simpleLinux 2fz...@gmail.com Yes. betul juga... Saya gunakan server Windows 7 je... Lebih baik kita pertahankan website kita -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Fariz Luqman The Chairman of SimpleLinux Visit: http://www.simplelinux.tk There IS a Malaysian Linux Distro -- Fariz Luqman The Chairman of SimpleLinux Visit: http://www.simplelinux.tk There IS a Malaysian Linux Distro -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- *** Together Protecting The Future Environment ** Please consider reading this email on-screen rather than printing. Should situation unavoidable, use recycled-paper. Plant More Trees. -- *** Together Protecting The Future Environment ** Please consider reading this email on-screen rather than printing. Should situation unavoidable, use recycled-paper. Plant More Trees. -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy
[osdcmy-public] Open Source Drone?
CES 2010 Unveiled OpenSource Drone: http://www.coolest-gadgets.com/20100105/parrots-ardrone-flys-high-ces-unveiled/#more-36241 Regards, AZMI Salim -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
Re: [osdcmy-public] rm200 million for malaysianising software
y? coz all those junkies will dug-up those fibre cables to salvage the cable inlays / in general terms it is called steel mesh protector hehhehehe :) On 16 May 2010 00:49, azmi salim azm...@gmail.com wrote: humbly speaking, RM 200 mil xcukup untuk lay fibre optic cable on all federal roads. On 15 May 2010 20:45, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: i think rm200 million is better spent laying fibre optic cables on all federal roads then attach a wifi point to the street lights every 500 meters maxis thinks this concept is good *Maxis* to utilise *TNB* poleshttp://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/5/13/business/6249883sec=business 13 May 2010 *...* *Maxis* to utilise *TNB* poles. By JACK WONG jackw...@thestar.com.my *...* KUCHING: *Maxis* Bhd plans to make use of Tenaga Nasional Bhd (*TNB*) poles *...* biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/5/13/business/... - Cachedhttp://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:xRuBKQg3aKYJ:biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp%3Ffile%3D/2010/5/13/business/6249883%26sec%3Dbusiness+maxis+tnbcd=1hl=enct=clnkclient=ubuntu and for once, terengganu gets into the action early ;-) finally i can dump tmnet ! On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 8:08 PM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: call me cynical, but define malaysianise software. On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: Search Results 1. New initiative aims to '*Malaysianise*' computer *software* | The *...*http://www.bt.com.bn/science-technology/2010/05/14/new-initiative-aims-malaysianise-computer-software 14 May 2010 *...* A nationwideinitiative to *Malaysianise* computer *software* used in the *...* Communications and Multimedia Minister, Datuk Seri Utama Dr *Rais* *...* www.bt.com.bn/.../new-initiative-aims-*malaysianise*-computer-* software* 2. RM200mil to create *software* with Malaysian touch - Latest news *...*http://news.malaysia.msn.com/regional/article.aspx?cp-documentid=4085401 13 May 2010 *...* A national project to “*Malaysianise*” computer * software*, used in the information technology sectors in the country has been revealed. *Rais* *...* news.malaysia.msn.com/regional/article.aspx?cp-documentid... - Cachedhttp://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:xTXZAZzQu7sJ:news.malaysia.msn.com/regional/article.aspx%3Fcp-documentid%3D4085401+malaysianisation+software+raiscd=2hl=enct=clnkclient=ubuntu 3. RM200m to create *software* with Malaysian touchhttp://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/5/13/nation/6248741sec=nation 13 May 2010 *...* SIBU: A nationwide initiative to “*Malaysianise*” computer *software* used in the information technology sectors in the country has been rolled *...* thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/5/13/nation/...sec... - Cachedhttp://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:kuQvlVbcQe0J:thestar.com.my/news/story.asp%3Ffile%3D/2010/5/13/nation/6248741%26sec%3Dnation+malaysianisation+software+raiscd=3hl=enct=clnkclient=ubuntu 4. RM200m to create *software* with Malaysian touchhttp://www.miricommunity.net/viewtopic.php?f=1t=29081p=380842 3 posts - 3 authors - Last post: 3 hours ago *...* Datuk Seri Utama Dr *Rais* Yatim said his ministry had set up a RM200mil fund to finance the *software* “*Malaysianisation*initiative”. *...* www.miricommunity.net/viewtopic.php?f=1t=29081p... - 8 hours ago -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list
Re: [Owasp-Malaysia] [osdcmy-public] HSBB Area?
South Asia's latency is within 100ms via Global Transit ( www.globaltransit.net) On 30 March 2010 09:40, Azril Nazli Alias azril.na...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought Wratch of The Lich king for USD39 ..after left teh game for almost 1 year and..playing back on my laptop... so far so good..limited play time ( weekends ) and via tunnel :D On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 3:32 PM, CL Chow klrkdek...@gmail.com wrote: previous Wow and Warhammer player ada la :) Regards, CL Chow On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Azril Nazli Alias azril.na...@gmail.com wrote: If they can improve my WoW / Warhammer latency down to sub 300ms...I'll definetely buy.. any WoW player here ? On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:09 PM, CL Chow klrkdek...@gmail.com wrote: if the statement the increased of user can direct hit the latency, means TM oversold... Regards, CL Chow On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:00 PM, simpleLinux 2fz...@gmail.com wrote: TM SME 4 MBPS latency 457 ms... ramai orang guna agak nya On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Hasan Abu Bakar ha...@kelate.com.my wrote: Latency is MUCH less decreased! I just figured this out a few days ago biz...@siput:~$ ping google.com PING google.com (64.233.189.99) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from hkg01s01-in-f99.1e100.net (64.233.189.99): icmp_seq=1 ttl=246 time=65.0 ms 64 bytes from hkg01s01-in-f99.1e100.net (64.233.189.99): icmp_seq=2 ttl=246 time=65.3 ms 64 bytes from hkg01s01-in-f99.1e100.net (64.233.189.99): icmp_seq=3 ttl=246 time=65.9 ms ^C notice there 65ms average instead of 300ms+ a few months ago http://www.ip-adress.com/ip_tracer/64.233.189.99 IP address [?]: 64.233.189.99 IP country code:US IP address country: United States IP address state: California IP address city:Mountain View I am on Streamyx 1MB Wakaf Bharu Kelantan VIVA TMNet! :D p/s Sharuzzaman, I got a song for you Sejarah Tak Mungkin Berulang from New Boyz Hasanuddin Abu Bakar --- Ubuntu embedded developer/tester https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org PGP Public Key http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xC5A1B11965D43C5C On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan sharuzza...@gmail.com wrote: Tidak semestinya high speed akan jadi low latency. Tapi disebabkan sambungan HSBB ni fiber to the home atau ethernet to the home, mungkin latency akan menjadi rendah. Lihat http://compnetworking.about.com/od/speedtests/a/network_latency.htm Seperti biasa, saya adalah orang yang agak skeptikal dengan Telekom Malaysia. Sejarah telah mengajar saya. Sejarah tahun 2003: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/mypenguin99/message/8858 On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Muhamad Hisyam Nasir gempakhost...@gmail.com wrote: If speed increased, Latency automatic decreased ... .High speed with Low Latency to MY-US. Connection Improve dan fastest Currently latency to US if use 384kbps Combo package boleh dapat 280~390ms Here the link for UniFi http://www.unifi.my/ SuperB! :D -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject. -- Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject. -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to
Re: [Owasp-Malaysia] [osdcmy-public] HSBB Area?
North America (West Coast) latency less than 250ms North America (East Coast) latency less than 350ms *before Unity Cable lights up. On 1 April 2010 05:50, azmi salim azm...@gmail.com wrote: South Asia's latency is within 100ms via Global Transit ( www.globaltransit.net) On 30 March 2010 09:40, Azril Nazli Alias azril.na...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought Wratch of The Lich king for USD39 ..after left teh game for almost 1 year and..playing back on my laptop... so far so good..limited play time ( weekends ) and via tunnel :D On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 3:32 PM, CL Chow klrkdek...@gmail.com wrote: previous Wow and Warhammer player ada la :) Regards, CL Chow On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Azril Nazli Alias azril.na...@gmail.com wrote: If they can improve my WoW / Warhammer latency down to sub 300ms...I'll definetely buy.. any WoW player here ? On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:09 PM, CL Chow klrkdek...@gmail.com wrote: if the statement the increased of user can direct hit the latency, means TM oversold... Regards, CL Chow On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:00 PM, simpleLinux 2fz...@gmail.comwrote: TM SME 4 MBPS latency 457 ms... ramai orang guna agak nya On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Hasan Abu Bakar ha...@kelate.com.my wrote: Latency is MUCH less decreased! I just figured this out a few days ago biz...@siput:~$ ping google.com PING google.com (64.233.189.99) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from hkg01s01-in-f99.1e100.net (64.233.189.99): icmp_seq=1 ttl=246 time=65.0 ms 64 bytes from hkg01s01-in-f99.1e100.net (64.233.189.99): icmp_seq=2 ttl=246 time=65.3 ms 64 bytes from hkg01s01-in-f99.1e100.net (64.233.189.99): icmp_seq=3 ttl=246 time=65.9 ms ^C notice there 65ms average instead of 300ms+ a few months ago http://www.ip-adress.com/ip_tracer/64.233.189.99 IP address [?]: 64.233.189.99 IP country code:US IP address country: United States IP address state: California IP address city:Mountain View I am on Streamyx 1MB Wakaf Bharu Kelantan VIVA TMNet! :D p/s Sharuzzaman, I got a song for you Sejarah Tak Mungkin Berulang from New Boyz Hasanuddin Abu Bakar --- Ubuntu embedded developer/tester https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org PGP Public Key http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xC5A1B11965D43C5C On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan sharuzza...@gmail.com wrote: Tidak semestinya high speed akan jadi low latency. Tapi disebabkan sambungan HSBB ni fiber to the home atau ethernet to the home, mungkin latency akan menjadi rendah. Lihat http://compnetworking.about.com/od/speedtests/a/network_latency.htm Seperti biasa, saya adalah orang yang agak skeptikal dengan Telekom Malaysia. Sejarah telah mengajar saya. Sejarah tahun 2003: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/mypenguin99/message/8858 On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Muhamad Hisyam Nasir gempakhost...@gmail.com wrote: If speed increased, Latency automatic decreased ... .High speed with Low Latency to MY-US. Connection Improve dan fastest Currently latency to US if use 384kbps Combo package boleh dapat 280~390ms Here the link for UniFi http://www.unifi.my/ SuperB! :D -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject. -- Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject. -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http
Re: [osdcmy-public] Measuring Malaysia
TQ, Very Useful. 2009/12/23 red1 r...@red1.org You can do so here http://www.weforum.org/pdf/GCR09/Report/Countries/Malaysia.pdf with other countries by adding the country name.pdf to the end of this http://www.weforum.org/pdf/GCR09/Report/Countries/ -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
[osdcmy-public] Re: [osdcmy] Re: Cloud Computing : eyeOS
Malaysia's Peering Arrangement - www.myix.gov.my 2009/8/1 Syamsul Anuar wari...@gmail.com Tp kalau kabel putus, mirror mesia pn out skali Sent via BlackBerry from Maxis -Original Message- From: Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 19:03:04 To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Subject: [osdcmy-public] Re: [osdcmy] Re: Cloud Computing : eyeOS Bila ada Mirror dalam Malaysia tidak perlulah capaian melalui kabel Internet dasar laut yang selalu putus tu. Tidaklah sesak dan bertambah laju Internet Malaysia ni. On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 6:48 PM, red1r...@red1.org wrote: cuba habak sekali lagi. hamba pun kemusykilan. apakah kebaikannya yang sebenarnya? -- *** Together Protecting The Future Environment ** Please consider reading this email on-screen rather than printing. Should situation unavoidable, use recycled-paper. Plant More Trees. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Missing Sony Handycam video camera during MSC Malaysia Open Source Conference 2009 award retro night.
Dear Delegates, On June 3 2009, during the MSC Malaysia Open Source Conference 2009 award retro night, one of the delegate (Person A), entrusted one Sony Handycam video camera (blue-ish grey colour) for brief safekeeping to one guy (Person B). Due to unforeseen circumstances, these two person, whom just known each other, unable to meet-up again for deliverance of the said video camera. The responsible person who holds the video camera for safekeeping, made a request to the event's emcee (Person E), announcing to meetup and return the camera. However, all parties, Person A + Person E, did not manage to get the Person B's contact details. Person B is deemed to still hold the video camera for safekeeping. Thus, to Person B or whomever knows or in contact with Person B or know how to contact Person B, kindly inform the event organiser or any of the secreatriat or may contact AZMI Salim, email: azm...@safve.my. Your kind assistance much appreciated. Regards, AZMI Salim OSDC.my -- *** Together Protecting The Future Environment ** Please consider reading this email on-screen rather than printing. Should situation unavoidable, use recycled-paper. Plant More Trees. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
