Re: [osdcmy] Saya pun tak tahu kenapa

[saifuladli ismail]

kita tak perlu guna perkataan bakar, kita guna perkataan "salin" nota ke
dalam CD. ok sikit bunyi nya.

2011/3/17 saiful 

> aku x pernah setuju dengan isitilah yang dianjurkan oleh dbp, still dalam
> note aku untuk kuliah tetap aku campurkan antara BM dan BI, sesetangah
> istilah boleh diterjemah dan sesetngahnya sangatlah 'jahil murakkab' sangat
> untuk dikalihbahasakan.
>
> kau nak nota aku? boleh nanti aku "bakar" dan bagi kau satu salinan - :) ..
> burn-in time (masa bakar mula) aduhai tolonglah...
>
> 2011/3/17 darXness darXness 
>
>> hmmm...ssh gak nak ckap bab nie.
>> actually,kalo ade sape2 xtau lg,kami pengajar bhgn ICT nie ssh skit kalo
>> nak gune BI 100%.nak wat nota,nak wat AS,WS,IS,LP,KA,PA sume2 tu xleh nak
>> rojak sgt.kalo double click,kene tukr jadik klik 2 kali.cume ade la skit2
>> term yg xdigalakkn translte sbb riso laen maksd.mcm *firewall.*maybe kite
>> akn ckp,da tau bljr komp,kene la power BI.itula yg ak slaloo ckp kat
>> stdnt2.tp kne fhm gak.mostly dorng nie dtg dari kptusan yg xbrape
>> baek.imagine,kalo kite pndg org msuk ILP n IKBN or mane2 pusat
>> kemahiran,kite da anggp mcm ntuk stdt2 yg agak lemah,apatah lgi ntuk org2 yg
>> xlayak pn nak msuk tmpt2 camtu.
>> yg xboleh membace,menulis pn ade.kene train slow2.nak bleh mmbace menulis
>> plak,BI mmg hancus.nak solve mende2 camni,kene train asing.bgi nota BM.n
>> then selit2 BI.baru fhm.dlu2,aku slaloo kondem cik2 ak sal wat nota BM.last2
>> bile da alami sndiri,tgk level stdnt2 ak,baru la ak fhm.ble ckp right click
>> pn dorng da confuse.huhu
>>
>> 2011/3/17 zarul shahrin :
>>
>> > Bukankah itu dinamakan bahasa "rojak"?
>> >
>> > 2011/3/17 saiful 
>> >>
>> >> ada beberapa istilah tak perlu translate, tulis saja double click.
>> >> dan jangan terlalu dungu membuat terjemahan secara terus. Contoh yg
>> femes
>> >> digunakan adalah "memnggunakan batang cucuk dan main".
>> >>
>> >> 2011/3/17 Muhammad Syafiq 
>> >>>
>> >>> kelik dua kali.
>> >>> :p
>> >>>
>> >>> محمد شافق بن مذلي
>> >>> Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli
>> >>> http://syafiq.me
>> >>> 67C2 1C07 FDEC 09ED DE58
>> >>> 1ED8 FF26 6105 142D CBE2
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> 2011/3/17 Raja Iskandar Shah 
>> 
>>  salam
>> 
>>  apa perkataan untuk double-click ? dwi-klik ? keklik ?
>> 
>>  help... i am half-way in my tutorial for creating a grails
>> application !
>> 
>> 
>>  2011/3/17 zarul shahrin 
>> >
>> > Saudara dan Saudari,
>> > Saya pun tak tahu kenapa.
>> > Bila saya membaca perbincangan berkaitan hal-hal teknikal di dalam
>> > Bahasa Malaysia, saya rasa geli hati. Bukan perli dan saya pun tak
>> tahu
>> > kenapa saya rasa geli hati .Memang rasa kelakar macam menonton
>> gambar P.
>> > Ramlee. Mungkin saya ni dah tak betul agaknya.  ^O^
>> >
>> > Yang Ikhlas,
>> > Zarul Shahrin
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Re: [osdcmy] WHY MDEC BEING A TARGET OF YOUR OWN FAILURE?

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mana ada merepek, at least we learn something from the argument.

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini <
jipangmenje...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think I the youngest one in the community *I think* and I I do admire all
> of big guys in community.
>
> I learned from Red1 that "the information are free, and the people are
> not", has been driven my passion to contribute more to opensource project,
> although only just translation.
>
> I learned from Rafe that "passion is a must", and because of that I'm still
> in opensource business although it's hard to accept the reality of life.
>
> I learned from Haris that "always give back to the community", and that's
> why I'm really passionate to contribute in community project, although I
> don't have that skills, or money, or time.
>
> saya tak kisah kalau kita ni bertelagah pandangan ke, nak suarakan pendapat
> ke, but in the end we still eat and talk in same table like use to be.
> that's what I do really admire about you guys.
>
> to conclude, let's stay unite and make something big. I always think about
> that :)
>
> sorry kalau email ni merepek sangat :p
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 6:10 AM, Abdul Aziz Mydin Salimuddin <
> kernel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Biasalaa bro, atleast bro dah mintak maaf dan dh luahkan apa yg terbuku di
>> hati.
>>
>> :)
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 12:51 PM, rafe azsnal  wrote:
>>
>>> first and foremost i would like to take this opportunity to apologize
>>> for the blunt and improper words that i use in my context. truly and
>>> sincerely i do apologize but it still doesn't change the fact that is
>>> some individual pursuing their own agenda rather than the whole
>>> movement. a personal vendetta will only bring more damage that good.
>>>
>>> Haris, we have been working together since day 1 i receive the
>>> portfolio of OSS and we have done great thing despite what others has
>>> said. and honestly i am proud of what that has become of OSDC.MY i do
>>> hope that it will blooms beautifully in time... but you need to be
>>> stronger and have bigger balls to roll with.. :)
>>>
>>> azrul, i have the utmost respect for u, being a man that you are, a
>>> husband to a wife that love you, a father to child that meant the
>>> world to them, a strong supporter to the course that you believed in,
>>> and as an individual who cares about your countrymen. who doesn't
>>> believed that wealth and knowledge is only for a certain individual
>>> but to everybody. i believed you will be an important asset to the
>>> country when the time comes. InsyaAllah all your sorrow and
>>> disappointment will be the courage that others will fight upon...
>>>
>>> red1, i can't stop you from being ass that you are :-) . a brave man
>>> that you are who stand tall among the rest... being a world leader and
>>> being a fighter who know no defeat with an army goat in your neighbor
>>> reban. i have learn a lot from like you which some of you bad
>>> personalities has been adapted by me to used it against you.. :)
>>> hahahaha.. i do hope you don't keep it in your heart where all of
>>> these is a training ground for our younger generation to be. we're not
>>> here forever the younger generation should take the lead by now and
>>> making you proud already red1. i do hope one day you would materialize
>>> your dream in bringing back what you love most to the country that
>>> have love you the less. :) dont worried as long as im here i will kick
>>> your ass... hahahaha..
>>>
>>> all of you are my friend, i have come to know you and respect you and
>>> see what you have been fighting for all these while and come to
>>> believe what you believed in... but my hand is not always free to help
>>> as there are time where both of my hand and leg is being tight and
>>> nailed down due to the policies and structure. i didn't mean to create
>>> a differences between you between friends all of you are fighting the
>>> same battle and war that yet to be determine whether have you won or
>>> loose...
>>>
>>> all am asking don't make us as target you don't want to make us as
>>> your enemies and not to be proud we do have the advantages of pressing
>>> all of these down. i would rather be a friend and have a teh tarik
>>> with all of you rather than fighting you... unless you can proof
>>> beyond doubt the  im willing to you to the extra miles to stand beside
>>> you and try to make thing right. but an individual or silos agenda
>>> will only ruins what you have build so far. run this community as a
>>> well as an organization and insyaAllah you will gain the recognition
>>> that you longing for unless somehow someway thing work for the better
>>> we need to work together to archive that one single common objective.
>>>
>>> //rafe
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel
>>>  wrote:
>>> > Aziz,
>>> >
>>> > remember the old days that we went into pendalaman teaching teachers
>>> > how to use Linux. Turun kapal terbang dan naik kapal te

Re: [osdcmy] WHY MDEC BEING A TARGET OF YOUR OWN FAILURE?

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number nie nak tujukkan apa? statistik? tujuan nya apa?

On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 8:16 PM, rafe azsnal  wrote:

> Maybe you have none
>
> rafe
>
> On Mar 1, 2011 7:43 PM, "red1"  wrote:
>
> Ini serupa pergi bank minta loan. Bila disuruh tunjuk numbers, apa numbers?
> Jika kita ada numbers, buat apa pergi bank???
> Kerana tada wang lah kita pegi bank buat pinjaman. Tetapi bank selalunya
> hanya bantu mereka yang sudah tidak perlu bantuan. Ini bukan rahsia, tetapi
> masih rahsia bagi mereka yang masih naif dan innosen.
>
> Please la Haris, give something thats worth my intelligence.
>
>
>
> On 3/1/11 6:15 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel wrote:
> >
> > Damp 
> >
> > I don't read email for 24 hours th...
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Re: [osdcmy] Learning from Tahrir Square

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Indeed, reviving spirit of OSS supporter. I like the change

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 8:58 PM, red1  wrote:

> Dear fellow inmates, i mean freedom fighters. Sorry for this but after
> watching lots of Al-Jazeerah, it finally hits me. We should no longer be
> afraid of voicing out our grievances against govt's depts inefficiencies and
> failures in promoting local talent or at least believing in locals as
> budding technopreneurs who can one day succeed, given real support instead
> of intimidation.
>
> No, no i am not saying that we are living under a 30 year dictatorship. I
> am saying we are living in a P. Ramlee's era of been afraid to voice out and
> that is why P. Ramlee died a pauper, broken man, broken in by his own
> country.
>
> What Tahrir's Square teaches us is that today's youth and mostly in OSDC.my
> are indeed hungry for change and self-sufficiency in using FOSS, but lacked
> the support the govt supposedly is there for, which sadly comes in bits and
> scraps, some big RM10m promise and then silence and denials as well as
> diversions and excuses. We are worse than Tahrir Square.
>
> Such big events happening across the thousand year history of Sahara desert
> must bring something home to us. It must at least stir us to reach for more
> solidarity and courage to kick ass. I once again call for the formation of
> an adhoc committee (non-registered, to hell with ROS) for MOSS to put
> political pressure on the govt to change the unwritten policy of supporting
> proprietary software and paying lip service to FOSS all this while.
>
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Re: [osdcmy] My1OS sapu duit gomen

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compared subject dlm SPM dgn Phd jauh bezanya tu. Phd satu bidang jer tapi
SPM banyak subject ada 9 ada yang sampai 21 subject. so compared SPM dgn PHd
susah SPM lagi dari buat Phd kah..kah..kah

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Garfield WTF  wrote:

> Their PHD is Permanent Head Damage.
> And they only think 1 way only, never think another way round.
> And those who usually more qualified are chased away...
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Re: [osdcmy] My1OS sapu duit gomen

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I like your reply, ikhlas

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 8:05 AM, red1  wrote:

> I just got this sms from a friend who knows nothing about IT,
> "Apa tu MY1OS?.. Budak2 sapu dana kerajaan saja".
>
> This is not my opinion. I got the sms to prove for such an opinion from a
> member of the public. I hate to be in controversy but what to do. We are
> surrounded by it.
>
> I replied to him this,
> "Gomen malas berfikir. Inovasi kene fikir dalam2. Kene cari inovator yg
> cerdik, payah. Asyik yg kaki hentam belaka, kononnya terlalu high std. Maka
> sapu jela lagi senang. Lagipun, cepat dapat, cepat makan bersama-sama. :)"
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Re: [osdcmy] error installing eclipse

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cuba pula Netbean 6.9.x

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Nor Arlina Amirah Ahmad Ghani <
nor.arl...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>  okay, i followed this steps and I got this error (attached screencap)
>
> what did I do wrong? seharian troubleshoot mende ni je.
>
> and please don't suggest of using yum. internet kat sini a bit slow, it'd
> take FOREVER to download.
>
> p/s: does anyone know a good IDE for java and flex  other than eclipse?
>
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Re: [osdcmy] Working With LPI

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saya menyokong program ini, tolong beritahu berapa kos diperlukan oleh
seorang pelajar mengikuti program ini. saya akan cuba bawakan perkara ini
kepada Pengurus IT (AIS-UTM) Sekolah Informatik termaju untuk dibincangkan.
Jika perlu mungkin tuan-tuan boleh datang ke AIS-UTM KL untuk perbincangan
lanjut.

On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel <
linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Team,
>
> Last night, Fazli and I had discussion with LPI Representative for
> APAC region and LPI want work with OSS community in Malaysia. We will
> meet them again soon, but for a start :-
>
> We need more suggestion from community.
>
> We have suggest a boot camp with University thats we will have class
> for example 3 weeks to teach students about Linux and LPI exam. At the
> end of the bootcamp, they will sit and take LPI exam.
>
> Lets open to discussion.
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Re: [osdcmy-public] framework testing

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Salam,

My research focus on distributed environment, e.g grid and cloud. Mostly
there are using password based and CA based on PKI. I want to do the
comparison between them based on performance and efficiency. Or if anybody
here have familiar using network simulation 2 (NS2) to simulate the
environment, please let me know. Tq

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan <
sharuzza...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Waalaikumsalam.
>
> Why you need to test every authentication framework?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 12:46 PM, saifuladli ismail
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> >
> > How to Test every authentication framework? If any people here know about
> > this, please reply and and give your suggestion, TQ
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[osdcmy-public] framework testing

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Hi and salam to all,

How to Test every authentication framework? If any people here know about
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Minta cadangan software E-commerce

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What is Trapdoor and trapdoor information? anyone please give some example!

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Hasan Abu Bakar wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:14 AM,  wrote:
>
>> Magenta is a framework?
>
>
> It's Magento, built on components of the Zend Framework
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magento
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>> for the 1st time... yes.. it's hard to maintain... because u need to
>> really understand how they develop it.. the structure of the solution...
>> so it will be easy to maintain~
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 9:47 PM, saiful  wrote:
>>
>>> magento is super duper cool ecommerce framework
>>>
>>> its not hard to manage if u can follow the system conceptual design
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 4:33 PM, CL Chow  wrote:
>>>
 Magento honestly is trying to go backwards,
 They're making it harder to modify, I don't agree to use that if you
 plan to maintain it

 2 cents from an ex magento guy

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 On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 10:45 PM, sallehy  wrote:

> 1. Magento
> 2. Opencart
> 3. Zencart
> :)
>
> On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Sir Beyta  wrote:
>
>> cube try magento~ terbaek gakk~
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 7:37 PM,  wrote:
>>
>>> Paypal only supports os commerce last time I check
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>>>
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>>> Date: Sun,  7 Nov 2010 19:33:46
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>>> Subject: RE: [osdcmy-public] Minta cadangan software E-commerce
>>>
>>> Payment nak pakai bank transfer dan paypal.thanks for the info.try
>>> godek2 tgk oscommerce malam ni.tak pernah buat ecommerce sebelum ni. 
>>> Buat
>>> website + cms je.ni 1st time dapat projek ecommerce.kepada sifu-sifu
>>> tolonglah pas-pas ilmu.hehehe.
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> Try oscommerce.com. Guna payment engine apa ? Kalau nak develop
>>> sendiri saya cadangkan beli buku agile web dev with ruby on rails ver 3.
>>> Memang dalam buku tu ajar develop shopping cart
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>>> Subject: [osdcmy-public] Minta cadangan software E-commerce
>>>
>>> Salam,
>>>
>>> seperti tertera di subjek, mintak cadangan untuk e-commerce punya
>>> software.setakat ni da try  opencart, tapi macam ada problem kalau 
>>> deploy
>>> kat shared hosting 000webhost (free). Kalau ada sesiapa ada pengalaman
>>> dengan ecommerce punya software, sila2 lah kemukakan. Skarang ni tgh nak
>>> usha zen cart.kalau boleh nak yg senang modify or extend. Didahului 
>>> dengan
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Perkenalan

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selamat berkenalan

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Re: [osdcmy-public] OSDC.my Master Plan

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Idea ini bagus, Tapi saya kurang pasti dan tidak arif samada oss boleh
beroperasi menggunakan kaeadah koperasi...mungkin rakan-rakan yang terlibat
dengan koperasi boleh memberikan pandangan.Tq

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Re: [osdcmy-public] Firefox vs Opera vs Chromiun/Chrome

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mendeley also is a good software but I prefer zotero...:)

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Nadeem  wrote:

> i use ubuntu 9.10 and i use mendeley for citation and making my papers i
> found it as the best software to do so
> and it is compatible with open office
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:18 PM, saifuladli ismail <
> ismail.saifula...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> najmi here is the version zotero addon I use with FF3.6.3. hope it will
>> help u.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi <
>> najmi.zab...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> saiful, i also use Zotero, but it didn't work with Open Office.
>>> I'm using Ubuntu 9.10 with FF-3.5.8 and OOO 3.1.1
>>> any clue?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:31 AM, saifuladli ismail
>>>  wrote:
>>> > compare firefox with opera and chrome, As a researchers upon of view, I
>>> > select Firefox because it support zotero as add on application to help
>>> > researchers to manage paper and journal citation and bibliography.
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:43 AM, fenris  wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> hola guys,
>>> >> Firefox vs Opera vs Chromiun/Chrome? yeapp this going to be
>>> interesting
>>> >> Firefox vs Opera vs Chromiun/Chrome hardcores pls put in ur input -
>>> we're
>>> >> interested to see how
>>> >> the battle goes muahahahahaha
>>> >> OSCC is doing a benchmark on those browsers .. things we're looking
>>> at:
>>> >> - scalability
>>> >> - namespace
>>> >> - speed
>>> >> - syntax
>>> >> - does it work well with all programming language? (php, java, html,
>>> >> python n
>>> >> etc)
>>> >> - how about the flash @ pdf compatibility?
>>> >> - look n feel
>>> >> - OS platform supported
>>> >> - .. put ur input here ..
>>> >> of course we're not looking for winner here, only to weigh the pros n
>>> cons
>>> >> for both languages
>>> >> if you have references, please kindly provide ;)
>>> >> thx
>>> >>
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Firefox vs Opera vs Chromiun/Chrome

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update your openoffice to the latest version. and get the plugin from zotero
website. ok I'm sure it will work...tq  :)

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> saiful, i also use Zotero, but it didn't work with Open Office.
> I'm using Ubuntu 9.10 with FF-3.5.8 and OOO 3.1.1
> any clue?
>
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:31 AM, saifuladli ismail
>  wrote:
> > compare firefox with opera and chrome, As a researchers upon of view, I
> > select Firefox because it support zotero as add on application to help
> > researchers to manage paper and journal citation and bibliography.
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:43 AM, fenris  wrote:
> >>
> >> hola guys,
> >> Firefox vs Opera vs Chromiun/Chrome? yeapp this going to be interesting
> >> Firefox vs Opera vs Chromiun/Chrome hardcores pls put in ur input -
> we're
> >> interested to see how
> >> the battle goes muahahahahaha
> >> OSCC is doing a benchmark on those browsers .. things we're looking at:
> >> - scalability
> >> - namespace
> >> - speed
> >> - syntax
> >> - does it work well with all programming language? (php, java, html,
> >> python n
> >> etc)
> >> - how about the flash @ pdf compatibility?
> >> - look n feel
> >> - OS platform supported
> >> - .. put ur input here ..
> >> of course we're not looking for winner here, only to weigh the pros n
> cons
> >> for both languages
> >> if you have references, please kindly provide ;)
> >> thx
> >>
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Re: [osdcmy-public] PHP vs Python

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what is the best book for the beginner to learn Phyton from scratch..TQ

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> php vs python? yeapp this going to be interesting
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> php and python hardcores pls put in ur input - we're interested to see how
> the battle goes muahahahahaha
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> OSCC is doing a benchmark on those 2 .. things we're looking at:
> - scalability
> - namespace
> - speed
> - syntax
> - .. put ur input here ..
>
> of course we're not looking for winner here, only to weigh the pros n cons
> for both languages
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> thx
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Firefox vs Opera vs Chromiun/Chrome

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compare firefox with opera and chrome, As a researchers upon of view, I
select Firefox because it support zotero as add on application to help
researchers to manage paper and journal citation and bibliography.

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> hola guys,
>
> Firefox vs Opera vs Chromiun/Chrome? yeapp this going to be interesting
>
> Firefox vs Opera vs Chromiun/Chrome hardcores pls put in ur input - we're
> interested to see how
> the battle goes muahahahahaha
>
> OSCC is doing a benchmark on those browsers .. things we're looking at:
> - scalability
> - namespace
> - speed
> - syntax
> - does it work well with all programming language? (php, java, html, python
> n
> etc)
> - how about the flash @ pdf compatibility?
> - look n feel
> - OS platform supported
> - .. put ur input here ..
>
> of course we're not looking for winner here, only to weigh the pros n cons
> for both languages
>
> if you have references, please kindly provide ;)
>
> thx
>
>
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Re: [osdcmy-public] [simpleLinux] Building the release 2 beta 1

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boleh belajar dari tuan bagaimana building simple linux. saya berminat
hendak belajar perkara macam ini.BUT don't know where and how to start.

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Re: [osdcmy-public] anyone used khtml2png

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can also use import command e.g

$ import -pause 5 try.png

look at your mouse pointer will change to + sign after 5 second. just click
and drag your mouse to capture any part in your screen and unclick the mouse
button. so the picture will be captured in the file name try.png

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> anybody has ever used khtml2png ?
>
> or any other solution to do website capture via command line ? can be in
> image or pdf.
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Menjadi Pembangun CakePHP Oleh Bazet

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salam harisanda seorang yang cinta kan ilmu...menulis adalah satu
ibadah, syabas tuan...saya juga ingin belajar dari tuan bagaimana menulis
dengan baik jika ada peluang...Tahniah sekali lagi...

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> Assalamualaikum dan salam sejahtera,
>
> Saya kongsikan untuk panduan semua.
>
> Link :-
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> Menjadi Pembangun CakePHP Oleh Bazet
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> http://www.scribd.com/doc/24306363/Menjadi-Pembangun-CakePHP-Bazet
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Re: [osdcmy-public] My presentation on Weld and Glassfish v3

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apa maksud JSR-299 dan senakatan dengan nya, boleh explain sikit. TQ

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> JSR-299 does not provide a rule engine on its own, what is can do on the
> other hand is to allow hooks for rules (think Adempiere model validator but
> can be applied anywhere... not just to models).
> Azrul
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 2:29 PM, red1  wrote:
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>> would this be useful in Business Rules, or its all already there with
>> stuff like JRules?
>>
>> Azrul Hasni MADISA wrote:
>> > Dependency injection is more useful for framework developers then
>> > application developers I guess. In oneof my example, I created a
>> > framework to undo changes made on an object.
>> >
>> > Now, imagine you have a class Document
>> >
>> > public class Document{
>> >  private String text;
>> >  //setters and getters
>> > }
>> >
>> > How would you tell the system to track changes to this class and
>> > enable undo? Well, with CDI, all you have to do is "mark" the  class as:
>> >
>> > @Undoable
>> > public class Document{
>> >  private String text;
>> >  //setters and getters
>> > }
>> >
>> > All changes will automatically be tracked. When you need to undo it,
>> > just call
>> >
>> > UndoUtility.undo(document)
>> >
>> > Simple
>>
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation

[saifuladli ismail]

jika telah di invite, bagaimana kita tahu kita telah diinvite? minta
penjelasan...

On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Hasan Abu Bakar wrote:

> Diharapkan google wave ni boleh jadi platform yang ideal untuk kolaborasi .
>
>
>
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>>  TQVM Rizal
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:osdcmy-l...@googlegroups.com]
>> *On Behalf Of *Mohd Rizal Haji Atan
>> *Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2009 10:57 AM
>>
>> *To:* osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation
>>
>>
>>
>> ok done my frenz, (kamal, zan, kays)
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:29 AM, kamal  wrote:
>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> Let me in, kamal...@gmail.com
>>
>> TQVVM
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:osdcmy-l...@googlegroups.com]
>> On
>> Behalf Of shaifful
>> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 10:40 PM
>> To: OSDC.my Mailing List
>> Subject: [osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation
>>
>> Ada yang masih belum miliki wave? saya ada 25 invite yg belum guna
>>
>> On Nov 30, 8:19 pm, Ajiz Ahmad  wrote:
>> > Thanks Mr rizal.
>> > Shukran..
>> >
>> > 
>> > From: Mohd Rizal Haji Atan 
>>
>> > To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
>>
>> > Sent: Mon, November 30, 2009 7:38:35 PM
>> > Subject: [osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation
>> >
>> > ok done
>> >
>>
>> > On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Ajiz Ahmad  wrote:
>> >
>> > anyone please invite me>azizaham...@gmail.com
>> >
>>
>> > 
>> > From: Mahsyar Said 
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> > >To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
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>> > >Sent: Mon, November 30, 2009 3:21:04 PM
>> >
>> > >Subject: [osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation
>> >
>> > >>thanks! :)
>> >
>>
>> > >On 11/30/09, LyanaHamka  wrote:
>> > >mahsya...@gmail.com
>> >
>> > >>dude. invited.
>> >
>> > >--
>> > >-
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>> > >Information and Communication Technology,
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[osdcmy-public] Re: Message driven pojo with Weld (WebBeans) and ActiveMQ

[saifuladli ismail]

salam azrul! when can i learn it from u..

On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Azrul Hasni MADISA wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I am currently playing around with Weld (formally known as Webbeans) and
> blog about creating Message Driven POJO using Weld (instead of using
> Spring). If you are interested please visit
> http://ejn3.blogspot.com/2009/12/message-driven-pojo-with-java-content.html.
> The source code and whatnot are available there.
>
>
> Azrul
>
> >
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[osdcmy-public] Re: Message driven pojo with Weld (WebBeans) and ActiveMQ

[saifuladli ismail]

can u sahre it with us how to do it. thank in advanced

On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah
wrote:

> the bit about netbeans was interesting
>
> what i learned today : setup openoffice.org as a service, so that i can
> wget your blog post and convert to pdf ;-)
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Azrul Hasni MADISA 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am currently playing around with Weld (formally known as Webbeans) and
>> blog about creating Message Driven POJO using Weld (instead of using
>> Spring). If you are interested please visit
>> http://ejn3.blogspot.com/2009/12/message-driven-pojo-with-java-content.html.
>> The source code and whatnot are available there.
>>
>>
>> Azrul
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
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[osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation

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salam tuan saya pun hendak juga

On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
wrote:

>
> Anybody want google wave invitation, please reply to this message with
> your gmail address, I will invite you, first come first serve only 7
> invitations left
>
>
>
>
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[osdcmy-public] Re: Support In Open Source Solution

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basically who will manage the center. I mean one stop center for OSS problem
complaints. I don't have experiences in business, I can't advise!. Hope
somebody in this group can give an opinion and advise to solve below
problems.

On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel <
linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Rasa sedih pula bila rakan dalam sebuah agensi beritahu dia perlu
> tukarkan Linux Centos yang saya pasang lama dahulu kepada Windows
> server. I will not against it because we have to acknowledge one
> thing.
>
> Im keep on hearing to people move to another software or os due to
> support issses.
>
> We dont have I single point of contact that can be a help to them.
>
> They don't care it Redhat, Novell or Canonical what they want is a
> single point of contact.
>
> Yes. We have e-marketplace OSCC MAMPU. But it still just a directory
> listing. What we need a toll number that people can talk to and get
> more information about Open Source where and who they can get help...
>
> RTFM is not working. Don't ask me to ask them to read the RTFM. We
> talking about losing market share after years of promotion due to our
> ignorance or let say it. Our egos...
>
> We keep on asking OSS users to read RTFM but its not real help to them...
>
> We need one centre or one community that willing to answer phone
> calls, email or visit sites, like any bussiness will do to keep
> customers still interest. We need marketing and sales team virtually
> in our OSS community.
>
> >
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[osdcmy-public] Re: Mendapat Sokongan Dana dari MDec

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bravo tuan red1. I like this...sebak rasanya

2009/10/26 red1 

>
> Baru tadi saya selesai menghadiri forum anjuran MDec bersama FOSSmy
> dimana beberapa tokoh dunia seperti Brian Aker dan David Axmark (rakan
> pereka MySQL). Setelah mendedahkan soal budaya yang sama dirasai oleh
> mereka walaupun di Eropah, dimana mereka sendiri tidak ada sokongan
> melainkan PC sendiri dan hari kelapangan hujung minggu. David mengambil
> masa 5 tahun lamanya sebelum negaranya sendiri iaitu Sweden menyiarkan
> tentang MySQL. Itupun setelah ia jadi masyur di Amerika Syarikat.
>
> David mengesahkan bahawa pernah beberapa kali mereka menolak soal
> perniagaan kerana ingin fokus pada MySQL. Pakar perniagaan sering
> menganggu mereka dengan tawaran yang mereka tidak mempersetujui. Orang
> bisnes juga turut tidak memahami mengapa pereka ini tidak mahu berniaga
> lebih komersil. Lihatlah semangat mereka yang tidak putus asa dengan
> sumber terbuka. Itulah rahsia kejayaan mereka.
>
> Dalam forum tadi, beberapa pegawai MDec mengenali saya dan bersetuju
> ingin menyokong apa jua permohonan saya untuk mendapat dana dari sana.
> Saya dengan rendah diri menolak pelawaan tersebut. Saya meminta mereka
> supaya fikirkanlah rakan-rakan dan adik-adik lain di sini. Saya sudah
> tidak perlu pertolongan mereka kerana ingin membuktikan keihklasan
> permintaan mudah ini. Saya hanya mahu perjuangkan mereka ini yang belum
> kecewa.
>
> Hukum-hakam dan perundangan dalam borang meminta dana hendaklah dikaji
> semula dan diperbaiki. Justru itu soal mengaitkan sesuatu usaha innovasi
> dengan berkesanan projek dan keuntungan komersil hendaklah dipisahkan.
> Innovasi adalah innovasi. Tidak ada kait mengait dengan soal komersil.
> Sekurang-kurangnya belum lagi.
>
> Lihatlah Harvard dan sejarahnya selama 300 tahun yang bermula dengan 11
> pelajar dan seorang pensyarah. Mereka mencari ilmu dan mencipta ilmu
> baru, bukan produk dan soal keuntungan. Lihatlah Universiti Princeton
> yang menjemput Albert Einstein untuk datang dan duduk sahaja tanpa
> mengajar. Mengapa?
>
> Kita di sini tidak akan mencapai tahap kejayaan mereka. Bukan kita tidak
> ada cerdik pandai malah cukup banyak saya jumpa. Tetapi mereka
> ditakut2kan dengan istilah bombastik yang tidak perlu. Mereka dizalimi
> sebenarnya. Siapa yang rugi? Kita adalah  rakyat yang berhak untuk
> mengajukan pandangan yang bernas demi negara tersayang kita.
>
> Saya juga meminta pegawai MDec untuk menjemput pihak OSDC.my supaya
> berdialog secara terus-terang tanpa pra-sangka. Kosongkanlah minda
> bahawa OSDC.my yang perlu wang seolah pengemis di negara sendiri. Kita
> bukan pengemis. Kita adalah modal insan dan pembawa generasi masa depan
> negara.
>
> Sekian dengan ikhlas dari saya,
> red1
>
> >
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[osdcmy-public] Re: OSDC to host SourceForge Mirror Site

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saya setuju dengan cadangan dan saranan tersebut. siapa kah yang akan
membuat paper work tersebut. jika sudah ada atau belum kita(group osdc.my)
boleh beri input dan komen.

tq

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:10 AM, red1  wrote:

>
> Dear guys/chix/mix
> Whether we like it or not, the path to world dominance has to pass thru
> some giants. Either you take it from Google's ass or MS armpit, or
> strike out with a friendly repository. Thus we have to have the mirror
> for ourselves. It is also part of the govt MCMC plan to reduce traffic
> outflow.
>
> So Baim and me here in the room next to the pantry of the building
> across MDec has decided to go ahead and propose a RM30m masterplan under
> OSDC.my to get that.
>
> WDYT? <- what do you think? Setuju/No Setuju
> red1
>
> >
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[osdcmy-public] Re: MYGOSSCON 2009 BoF Plan for Each OSS Community

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ok tq I get it, the meaning.

On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 5:53 PM, red1  wrote:

>
> Mohd Hidzuan wrote:
> > bro..
> >
> > mana mungkin bulu burung pipit sama dengan bulu burung engang..
> >
> > berat bulu lah burung pipit kalu tu macam.. macam mana nak terbang..
> > muahahahaha
> > ...
>  silap eja... burung.. bukan burong .. patutla tak leh terbang.. kekekekek
>
>
>
>
> >
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[osdcmy-public] Re: MYGOSSCON 2009 BoF Plan for Each OSS Community

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salam all what is BOF?
tq

On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Khairul Aizat Kamarudzzaman <
khai...@oscc.org.my> wrote:

>
> Hi OSS Community,
> As per our last meeting, all OSS Community agreed to submit the BoF Plan
> for
> each OSS Community on Friday (16 Oct 2009). Currently i just receive from
> Fedora-my Community (only title of the bof) need more details about the
> plan.
>
> Identified group for Bof:
> fedora-my
> ubuntu-my
> osdc.my
> myopensuse
> python.my
> moodle
> foss.my
> fosschix-my
>
> For those who / representative from OSS Community not attended the last
> meeting, can u guys send it to me by Wednesday (21 Oct 2009)
>
> I do hope all OSS Community can give me the BoF Plan (what u guys plan to
> do
> for the Bof) a.s.a.p before this wednesday. tq
>
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[osdcmy-public] Re: Buku Sumber Terbuka oleh Redhuan Oon

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salam, boleh tambah lagi.

5. sumber terbuka untuk pengajaran dan pembelajaran (sekolah rendah,
menengah, kolej dan universiti)

6. aplikasi sumber terbuka untuk automasi pejabat

sekian terima kasih

2009/10/9 red1 

>
> Pn,
> Sptmn yg dibincangkan tadi dalam telefon, siri buku akan datang yang
> dicadangkan oleh pihak kami adalah:
>
> 1. Perkakasan dan Aplikasi Sumber Terbuka (sasaran pembaca umum biasa)
>
> 2. Perlaksanaan Sistem ERP Terbuka Untuk IKS (sasaran sektor perniagaan)
>
> 3. Sumber Terbuka Untuk Kerajaan (sasaran kajian sektor awam)
>
> 4. Sumber Terbuka Untuk Negara (sasaran kajian umum)
>
> Sesiapa yang lain dalam komuniti SumberTerbuka Malaysia jika ada lagi
> ide judul buku yang sesuai sila tokok tambah buat rujukan Dewan Bahasa
> dan Pustaka.
>
> wasalam
> red1
>
> >
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[osdcmy-public] Re: [TJU]Penerbitan Buku ICT dalam Bahasa Melayu

[saifuladli ismail]

insyaALLAH ia akan berhasil dengan jaya nya, dengan niat untuk memperkasakan
Open Sources di bumi malaysia. amin

2009/10/5 red1 

>
> ok thanks.. then we go to open house AeU after that. I be at your place
> by 10.30am
>
> Thanks Haris.. i cc to osdc-list to show that you have brought this
> matter one step forward. Hopefully berkat usaha tuan presiden kita
> berhasil.
>
> Nurhizam Safie Mohd. Satar (staff) wrote:
> > Terima kasih,
> >
> > Saya sudah aturkan pertemuan dgn En. Jamaludin di DBP pada hari Rabu
> > 7hb Oktober (11 pagi).
> >
> > Red1, jgn lupa dtg office, lepas tu kita ke sana, nanti saya print
> > salinan bahasa melayu tu...
> >
> >
> >
> > 2009/10/5 Harisfazillah Jamel :
> >
> >> Wassalam.
> >>
> >> Terima kasih atas email pihak tuan.
> >>
> >> Dalam email ini saya CC kepada Saudara Redhuan D. Oon dan Prof. Dr.
> >> Nurhizam Safie Mohd Satar untuk mereka aturkan pertemuan dengan pihak
> >> tuan.
> >>
> >> Red1 dan Prof.
> >>
> >> Saya kenalkan En. Jamaluddin daripada DBP. Beliau berminat untuk
> >> bertemu di DBP dan bincangkan tentang buku yang dimaksudkan.
> >>
> >> Berikut maklumat hubungan beliau.
> >>
> >> Jamaluddin Mohd Sulong
> >> Ketua Editor Sains dan Teknologi
> >> Tel: 03-2148 3969/ 012-669 0919
> >> Faks: 03-2144 9614
> >> Alamat:
> >> Bahagian Sains dan Teknologi, Jabatan Penerbitan
> >> Aras 18, Menara DBP
> >> Jalan Dewan Bahasa
> >> 50460, Kuala Lumpur
> >>
> >> Sekali lagi, terima kasih.
> >>
> >> Harisfazillah Jamel
> >>
> >> Pengerusi Jawatan Kuasa Penaja OSDC.my
> >> Bagi pihak AJK OSDC.my dan Secretariat OSDC.my
> >>
> >> 019-6085482
> >>
> >> 2009/10/5 Jamaluddin Mohd Sulong :
> >>
> >>> Salam,
> >>> Jika tak keberatan, boleh kita berjumpa dan berbincang di DBP. TK.
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: "linuxmalaysia" 
> >>> To: ter...@yahoogroups.com
> >>> Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 08:21:51 -
> >>> Subject: [TJU] Penerbitan Buku ICT dalam Bahasa Melayu
> >>>
> >>> Assalamualaikum dan salam sejahtera,
> >>>
> >>> Sebenarnya saya tidak tahu mana hendak dituju apabila membaca luahan
> hati
> >>> rakan saya. Beliau mahu terbitkan buku ICT dalam bahasa Melayu yang
> bagi
> >>> kami sesuai dalam kumpulan akademik.
> >>>
> >>> Masalah yang timbul adalah untuk mendapatkan penerbit yang mahu
> menerbitkan
> >>> buku beliau. Pelbagai syarikat termasuk dan DBP beliau telah email dan
> >>> sampaikan maksud. Akan tetapi maklum balas masih tertunggu lagi..
> >>>
> >>> Harap rakan-rakan disini dapat memberikan pendapat, dimana dapat
> membantu
> >>> beliau untuk meneruskan cita-citanya...
> >>>
> >>> Untuk makluman :-
> >>>
> >>> Buku ini ditulis dahulu dalam Bahasa Inggeris. Tiada masalah dengan
> penerbit
> >>> luar.
> >>>
> >>> Tapi beliau cintakan bahasa Melayu. Berniat ada buku akedemik dalam
> bahasa
> >>> Melayu.
> >>>
> >>> Beliau ada sokongan daripada MDeC . Tapi kita perlu faham MDeC dalam
> bidang
> >>> Industri ICT tapi bukan penerbitan buku. Namun begitu ia peluang kepada
> buku
> >>> itu dipasarkan dalam industri ICT Malaysia.
> >>>
> >>> Saya selaku pengerusi OSDC.my juga boleh membantu dalam pemasaran. Tapi
> >>> sedia maklum, kami bukan dalam bidang penerbitan. Aktiviti-aktiviti
> sukarela
> >>> kami banyak melibatkan pelajar universiti.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> boleh email kepada saya untuk sebarang maklum balas
> >>>
> >>> linuxmalay...@gmail.com
>
>
> >
>

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[osdcmy-public] Re: new book cover - Open Source ERP

[saifuladli ismail]

 i like no 2

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 8:28 AM, red1  wrote:

>
> Just in from the publisher this morning .. so please vote again.. undi
> sebelum ini masih berguna (tqvm!).. i just took the red cover option and
> ask that a group photo be put in:
>
> 1. http://red1.org/aaa/OS_ERP_1.pdf
>
> 2. http://red1.org/aaa/OS_ERP_2.pdf
>
> red1
>
> >
>

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[osdcmy-public] Re: Which Book Cover Would You Choose?

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red one is better

On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:22 PM, red1  wrote:

>
> Salam and Peace to all,
> Pearson has asked me which to choose, so i like to ask for a community
> vote: http://red1.org/aaa/bookcover2.pdf
>
> The goat from Kuang chose the left red one. What do you think?
>
> red1
>
> >
>

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[osdcmy-public] Re: MDec is throwing Java Tracks

[saifuladli ismail]

salam red1

how to apply the java course

regards

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 10:18 AM, red1  wrote:

>
> Firstly thanks again to MDec (already said thanks to the MDec
> representative Kah Heng) for giving away courses for Lecturers and
> Trainers. I together with E1 attended last week's one on J2EE. Sadly
> there were absentees. Reason reckoned is that Java is difficult. I
> reckon same too for college goers who often go for the low lying fruits
> such as Python (sorry Boh and other gurus) and Php.
>
> The representative of MDec who on the last day debrief us, announced to
> my joy that there will be a full Java track in coming months. Meaning
> you get to learn Java from scratch till you can Swing on EJB3.
>
> Last Sunday buka puasa with Eric, he told me he is interested too. I
> like to encourage lecturers/trainers of like-mindedness to go for this
> FREE course. To push you over the edge, here is some short pitch on why
> you need the taste of Java in your lips.
>
> "10 Reasons Why You Need Java Now"
>
> 1. The world will end in 2012. You got to live life to the fullest.
> Dying without knowing Java is like never experiencing sex.
>
> 2. Java is the defacto matured ironman of programming languages. I use
> to say to my 9 year-old prodigy - If C is the mother of all languages,
> then Java is its dad.
>
> 3. Java developers fetch higher pay. J2EE architects sleep on business
> class flights.
>
> 4. If you are more idiot and dumb than my 9 yr-old son then u can
> download from www.alice.org and learn the concepts real fast.
>
> 5. You can say this to the other gurus, "Heh.. sorry.. I am only good in
> Java".
>
> 6. Top SourceForge projects such as ADempiere are prorgammed in Java.
>
>
> 7. Java has lots of API Libraries that are matured for the serious
> industries.
>
> 8. IBM uses Java.
>
> 9. Even Sun dies after giving birth to Java. And Oracle is willing to
> take over the biological son.
>
> 10. The world has only 10,000 certified Java holders. It is still a
> murky blue ocean, not as saturated and cluttered as Python's 50,000 strong.
>
> >
>

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