RE: [osdcmy] API - how to use it in your portlet development
Hi! Thanks for your response. Yeah things are a bit difficult but still holding on and keeping myself sane for the time being. Apparently only Flex is supported by Vine Toolkit, so that's why we're using that. But then I'd like to explore all the other options after this :) ◄► Nor Arlina Amirah Ahmad Ghani (Ann) AC080144 (3SCB) Bsc Computer Science (Bioinformatics) FACULTY OF COMPUTER SCIENCE AND INFORMATION SYSTEMS UNIVERSITY OF TECHNOLOGY MALAYSIA 012-5934575 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 10:24:39 +0800 Subject: Re: [osdcmy] API - how to use it in your portlet development From: bhy...@gmail.com To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com hi, woot, looked at the API docs and its way too ugly... its Java, I prefer sane programming languages like Python, perhaps Haskell, SmallTalk, Lisp... (which I'll like to learn..) Any an API, - and I'm speaking generically, as I don't know Java, and probably will never learn it..., is nothing more than a standard way for 2 programs to talk to each other. It basically define functions, or in OOP, classes methods and how you call them, ie: what are the arguments/parameters to pass etc... Also APIs are used differently depending on wether you are using a framework or a library. In a library, your code calls the libarry code using the 'rules' laid out in the API, call a function, or you instantiate a library's class and make use of it. So in this case, you can write/organize your code anyway you want, so long as you just make sure you pass the correct types of arguments etc... then you are OK. When using a framework, its the other way around, the framework calls your code! Hence you have to write your code to conform to the API that the framework demands. ie: your class (if its OOP, like Java) must have a specific name, or it must have specific methods that take certain types of arguments. So you have a lot more restrictions on how to write your code! But its suppose to be good for you, as the framework designer knows best and is probably smarter, wiser etc... And in 'strongly typed languages' it gets more complicated because all the types have to match, either that or you do 'cast'/conversion and adaptations, kind of messy. BTW from what I read up the VineToolkit is a sort of MVC (Model View Controller) framework (Wikipedia) and portlets are dynamic objects that render part of a page, that then get aggregated and served out to form the whole page (using Flex?! why?). - it looks like a very complicated way to do things ;-) Can probably do the same thing with less effort with PHP and JS, and I do it pretty much simpler with Python. ..can't help more than that, sorry ;-) On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Nor Arlina Amirah Ahmad Ghani nor.arl...@hotmail.com wrote: okay my bad. The portal framework is Gridsphere. VT is actually one of the grid components to support the grid middleware. after much fiddling, hair-pulling, and Starcrafting, I managed to get a workaround to my problem. But the API thing is still unresolvable. I see API as a sort of library that can be used during our project development. If I want a certain function to work on my project, I still refer to the API and use the packages available. Is this a good reflection of what API is? How do you people use API? Please correct me if I am wrong. ◄► Nor Arlina Amirah Ahmad Ghani (Ann) AC080144 (3SCB) Bsc Computer Science (Bioinformatics) FACULTY OF COMPUTER SCIENCE AND INFORMATION SYSTEMS UNIVERSITY OF TECHNOLOGY MALAYSIA 012-5934575 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 11:34:09 +0800 Subject: Re: [osdcmy] API - how to use it in your portlet development From: rajaiskand...@gmail.com To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com ok i am trying to guess what you are trying to do vine toolkit is not really a framework ! it's a library to give you nice grids : http://fury.man.poznan.pl/vinetoolkit/ - think of it like jquery ui flex is a framework : http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/ look at demo using liferay as the portal framework : http://vinetoolkit.org/content/vine-and-liferay liferay has a lot more documentation, so use it to create your portlet, then only put the vine toolkit layer on top of it. if you are using the flex ide, consider using eclipse or netbeans or intellij or something i dont use liferay, nor do i use flex. this is the first time i am looking at vine. spend time learning and using web application frameworks like liferay, grails, adempiere, then if anything goes wrong, blame it on the framework ! would be really cool if you could write about how to use the api in adempiere. maybe you can create a blogging website or forum using adempiere. On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 8:26 AM, Harisfazillah
Re: [osdcmy] API - how to use it in your portlet development
hi, woot, looked at the API docs and its way too ugly... its Java, I prefer sane programming languages like Python, perhaps Haskell, SmallTalk, Lisp... (which I'll like to learn..) Any an API, - and I'm speaking generically, as I don't know Java, and probably will never learn it..., is nothing more than a standard way for 2 programs to talk to each other. It basically define functions, or in OOP, classes methods and how you call them, ie: what are the arguments/parameters to pass etc... Also APIs are used differently depending on wether you are using a framework or a library. In a library, your code calls the libarry code using the 'rules' laid out in the API, call a function, or you instantiate a library's class and make use of it. So in this case, you can write/organize your code anyway you want, so long as you just make sure you pass the correct types of arguments etc... then you are OK. When using a framework, its the other way around, the framework calls your code! Hence you have to write your code to conform to the API that the framework demands. ie: your class (if its OOP, like Java) must have a specific name, or it must have specific methods that take certain types of arguments. So you have a lot more restrictions on how to write your code! But its suppose to be good for you, as the framework designer knows best and is probably smarter, wiser etc... And in 'strongly typed languages' it gets more complicated because all the types have to match, either that or you do 'cast'/conversion and adaptations, kind of messy. BTW from what I read up the VineToolkit is a sort of MVC (Model View Controller) framework (Wikipedia) and portlets are dynamic objects that render part of a page, that then get aggregated and served out to form the whole page (using Flex?! why?). - it looks like a very complicated way to do things ;-) Can probably do the same thing with less effort with PHP and JS, and I do it pretty much simpler with Python. ..can't help more than that, sorry ;-) On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Nor Arlina Amirah Ahmad Ghani nor.arl...@hotmail.com wrote: okay my bad. The portal framework is Gridsphere. VT is actually one of the grid components to support the grid middleware. after much fiddling, hair-pulling, and Starcrafting, I managed to get a workaround to my problem. But the API thing is still unresolvable. I see API as a sort of library that can be used during our project development. If I want a certain function to work on my project, I still refer to the API and use the packages available. Is this a good reflection of what API is? How do you people use API? Please correct me if I am wrong. ◄► Nor Arlina Amirah Ahmad Ghani (Ann) AC080144 (3SCB) Bsc Computer Science (Bioinformatics) FACULTY OF COMPUTER SCIENCE AND INFORMATION SYSTEMS UNIVERSITY OF TECHNOLOGY MALAYSIA 012-5934575 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 11:34:09 +0800 Subject: Re: [osdcmy] API - how to use it in your portlet development From: rajaiskand...@gmail.com To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com ok i am trying to guess what you are trying to do vine toolkit is not really a framework ! it's a library to give you nice grids : http://fury.man.poznan.pl/vinetoolkit/ - think of it like jquery ui flex is a framework : http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/ look at demo using liferay as the portal framework : http://vinetoolkit.org/content/vine-and-liferay liferay has a lot more documentation, so use it to create your portlet, then only put the vine toolkit layer on top of it. if you are using the flex ide, consider using eclipse or netbeans or intellij or something i dont use liferay, nor do i use flex. this is the first time i am looking at vine. spend time learning and using web application frameworks like liferay, grails, adempiere, then if anything goes wrong, blame it on the framework ! would be really cool if you could write about how to use the api in adempiere. maybe you can create a blogging website or forum using adempiere. On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 8:26 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone can help her on this? On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Nor Arlina Amirah Ahmad Ghani nor.arl...@hotmail.com wrote: Assalamualaikum and hi everyone Despite the subject, I'm very much stressed out right now. How do I use an API (in my case, Vine Toolkit API? http://fury.man.poznan.pl/vinetoolkit/docs/javadoc/index.html) I've been staring at the classes methods whatever only to find myself getting into this very deep confusion and tense. I have to come up with a portlet (Flex and Java based), and Vine Toolkit is the framework on which this portlet is deployed to. I've been searching directories and files without really knowing what am I doing. Call me noob whatever, I'm still learning, so much apologize for the question. I'm divorcing
Re: [osdcmy] API - how to use it in your portlet development
Anyone can help her on this? On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Nor Arlina Amirah Ahmad Ghani nor.arl...@hotmail.com wrote: Assalamualaikum and hi everyone Despite the subject, I'm very much stressed out right now. How do I use an API (in my case, Vine Toolkit API? http://fury.man.poznan.pl/vinetoolkit/docs/javadoc/index.html) I've been staring at the classes methods whatever only to find myself getting into this very deep confusion and tense. I have to come up with a portlet (Flex and Java based), and Vine Toolkit is the framework on which this portlet is deployed to. I've been searching directories and files without really knowing what am I doing. Call me noob whatever, I'm still learning, so much apologize for the question. I'm divorcing Google. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] API - how to use it in your portlet development
ok i am trying to guess what you are trying to do 1. vine toolkit is not really a framework ! it's a library to give you nice grids : http://fury.man.poznan.pl/vinetoolkit/ - think of it like jquery ui 2. flex is a framework : http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/ 3. look at demo using liferay as the portal framework : http://vinetoolkit.org/content/vine-and-liferay 4. liferay has a lot more documentation, so use it to create your portlet, then only put the vine toolkit layer on top of it. 5. if you are using the flex ide, consider using eclipse or netbeans or intellij or something i dont use liferay, nor do i use flex. this is the first time i am looking at vine. spend time learning and using web application frameworks like liferay, grails, adempiere, then if anything goes wrong, blame it on the framework ! would be really cool if you could write about how to use the api in adempiere. maybe you can create a blogging website or forum using adempiere. On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 8:26 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone can help her on this? On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Nor Arlina Amirah Ahmad Ghani nor.arl...@hotmail.com wrote: Assalamualaikum and hi everyone Despite the subject, I'm very much stressed out right now. How do I use an API (in my case, Vine Toolkit API? http://fury.man.poznan.pl/vinetoolkit/docs/javadoc/index.html) I've been staring at the classes methods whatever only to find myself getting into this very deep confusion and tense. I have to come up with a portlet (Flex and Java based), and Vine Toolkit is the framework on which this portlet is deployed to. I've been searching directories and files without really knowing what am I doing. Call me noob whatever, I'm still learning, so much apologize for the question. I'm divorcing Google. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
RE: [osdcmy] API - how to use it in your portlet development
okay my bad. The portal framework is Gridsphere. VT is actually one of the grid components to support the grid middleware. after much fiddling, hair-pulling, and Starcrafting, I managed to get a workaround to my problem. But the API thing is still unresolvable. I see API as a sort of library that can be used during our project development. If I want a certain function to work on my project, I still refer to the API and use the packages available. Is this a good reflection of what API is? How do you people use API? Please correct me if I am wrong. ◄► Nor Arlina Amirah Ahmad Ghani (Ann) AC080144 (3SCB) Bsc Computer Science (Bioinformatics) FACULTY OF COMPUTER SCIENCE AND INFORMATION SYSTEMS UNIVERSITY OF TECHNOLOGY MALAYSIA 012-5934575 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 11:34:09 +0800 Subject: Re: [osdcmy] API - how to use it in your portlet development From: rajaiskand...@gmail.com To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com ok i am trying to guess what you are trying to do vine toolkit is not really a framework ! it's a library to give you nice grids : http://fury.man.poznan.pl/vinetoolkit/ - think of it like jquery ui flex is a framework : http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/look at demo using liferay as the portal framework : http://vinetoolkit.org/content/vine-and-liferay liferay has a lot more documentation, so use it to create your portlet, then only put the vine toolkit layer on top of it.if you are using the flex ide, consider using eclipse or netbeans or intellij or something i dont use liferay, nor do i use flex. this is the first time i am looking at vine. spend time learning and using web application frameworks like liferay, grails, adempiere, then if anything goes wrong, blame it on the framework ! would be really cool if you could write about how to use the api in adempiere. maybe you can create a blogging website or forum using adempiere. On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 8:26 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone can help her on this? On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Nor Arlina Amirah Ahmad Ghani nor.arl...@hotmail.com wrote: Assalamualaikum and hi everyone Despite the subject, I'm very much stressed out right now. How do I use an API (in my case, Vine Toolkit API? http://fury.man.poznan.pl/vinetoolkit/docs/javadoc/index.html) I've been staring at the classes methods whatever only to find myself getting into this very deep confusion and tense. I have to come up with a portlet (Flex and Java based), and Vine Toolkit is the framework on which this portlet is deployed to. I've been searching directories and files without really knowing what am I doing. Call me noob whatever, I'm still learning, so much apologize for the question. I'm divorcing Google. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
