Re: [OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)?

[Michael Herman via OSList]

Missed this earlier, Jake.  Sometimes review starts at the end of the last
session and gives last conveners a little extra time to write their notes
up.  Sometimes, in one-day sessions, I've used the gallery approach that
mmp invented years ago.  Give each breakout space flipchart paper, but give
each convener a single sheet of posterboard to digest their info from flips
to the poster board.  Easier to understand, easier to photo.  Put them all
on the same wall, easier to read as a large group.  With a day and a half,
I'd build the gallery time into the breakfast time.  Read and eat and be
ready to go at X time.  If the diverging was finished on day one and day
two is about converging again, then there's no need for morning news.  The
news is:  we have a new challenge/task to do together.  But no matter how
you slice it, if you want them to DO something with the data on the wall,
they'll need a little bit of time to look it over.  Also, the usual
invitation is to pay special attention to the sessions they missed, rather
than those they attended.  Putting names of conveners and participants on
these notes encourages conversations, questions, clarifications, etc.  MH





--

Michael Herman
Michael Herman Associates
312-280-7838 (mobile)

MichaelHerman.com
OpenSpaceWorld.org




On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 4:28 PM Jake Yeager via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Hey Michael Pannwitz,
>
> I had Michael Herman in mind, but I'd love to extend the question to
> everyone.
>
> Thanks for the question. :)
>
> Jake
>
>
> 
>
> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and
> you will be free of problems.
>  - Robert Adams 
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 6:16 PM Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>> Jake,
>> which Michael are your thinking of?
>> mmp
>>
>> Am 08.02.2020 um 18:13 schrieb Jake Yeager via OSList:
>> > Michael and Chris - do you allot time to review the notes prior to
>> > organizing them?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 10:14 AM Jake Yeager > > > wrote:
>> >
>> > Again, a bunch of great ideas and perspectives on this thread.
>> >
>> > After considering it more, I am going to propose to the sponsor that
>> > we adjust our convergence process. Per Michael and Chris's
>> > suggestions, I will propose that participants organize the notes
>> > into themes. This will assist meaning-making and pattern
>> > recognition. Then, I will invite participants to vote on the themes
>> > that they would like to see turned into OKRs. The top 3 get turned
>> > into OKRs using the iterative sprints.
>> >
>> > This approach seems more organic and simple. It also seems to flow
>> > better, and it requires less facilitation.
>> >
>> > I also like Ilan's ideas about structuring the notes towards the
>> > outcomes. I may also incorporate that.
>> >
>> > Thanks again!
>> >
>> > 
>> >
>> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again,
>> > and you will be free of problems.
>> >   - Robert Adams 
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 4:42 AM Ilan Kirschenbaum
>> > mailto:i...@practical-agile.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Extending this to an Open Space format, let the structure guide
>> > the outcomes.
>> > For example, have the session summary sheets have, in addition
>> > to topic, convener and participants, titles for Main Objective
>> > and for Key Results. You may wish to add (see if you can find
>> > about 3 SMART key results) - if you want to guide participants
>> > towards the OKRs concept. That said with a invitation to favor
>> > the more open and the less prescriptive approach.
>> >
>> > As for the initiatives session, one thing we had at a client is
>> > to prepare a large board with a table having tall rubrics for Os
>> > on the left side, and wider and shorter rubrics for KRs in the
>> > right.
>> > During this session, participants - conveners and other - were
>> > invited to place their Os and KRs in the board and share what
>> > they found passion and responsibility for to take forward.
>> > In effect, that way self-organized teams were formed to make
>> > these initiatives happen.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 6:15 Chris Corrigan via OSList
>> > > > > wrote:
>> >
>> > No...  If the sponsor already knows which OKR’s will matter,
>> > then that would be “pre-set” answers, and I would forget
>> > about open space. But specifying that “we are trying to
>> > generate new OKRs” is a fine invitation, because it’s open
>> > and the sponsor should be 

Re: [OSList] How do you "hold space?"

[Thomas Perret via OSList]

Hi Jake,

I’m thinking of your insidership and your existing relationships to and in the 
team and that you might be considered as more than a pure facilitator. I come 
to think of Dee Hock’s advice to devote – in addition to devoting 50% of all 
efforts to manage self –

25% to manage superiors (“Without their consent and support, how can we follow 
conviction, exercise judgment, use creative ability, achieve constructive 
results or create conditions by which others can do the same?”), 

20% to manage peers (“Without their respect and confidence little or nothing 
can be accomplished. Our environment and peers can make a small heaven or hell 
of our life.”)

(and only the rest 5% to subordinates, which is closest to the standard 
facilitator’s  focus of – “introduce them to the concept, induce them to 
practice it, and enjoy the process.”)

Kindly,
Thomas

___

All is possible together

On 8 Feb 2020, at 20.44, Jake Yeager via OSList mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:

> Many questions these days. Thank you for entertaining them. :)
> 
> This past week, I facilitated an eight-hour Open Space split across two 
> half-days. The attendees were an Organizational Development team, of which I 
> am a member. My AVP sponsored the event, because we had recently merged with 
> another group, and there was lack of clarity. So, our theme was: "Who are we, 
> and how do we collaborate to drive success?" Also, my AVP--who is a leader in 
> Learning & Development--wanted to experience Open Space in order to 
> understand it better as it is new to my firm.
> 
> Since I am a fledgling facilitator, I chose not to participate in the 
> breakout sessions, even though I am part of the group. I wanted to make sure 
> that I provided the best experience for everyone, and participating would 
> have dampened my focus. I shared this with my manager, after she inquired 
> after the first day why I had not participated.
> 
> Long story short, after the event, my manager had major concerns how I 
> facilitated the event. I had gone for long walks while the group was working, 
> and she felt that was very risky. I told her that the facilitator's role is 
> to remain "invisible" to allow the group to build its capacity for 
> self-management. She said that our firm's culture is very hierarchical and 
> that "baby steps" are needed. She suggested even intervening in a group if it 
> gets "stuck." I believe I mentioned that intervening is not part of Open 
> Space facilitation. 
> 
> So my question is: how do you "hold space?" I found Chris's description on 
> his website: "an Open Space Technology facilitator is neither seen nor heard, 
> but his or her presence is 'felt.'" I guess by going for long walks and not 
> being in the room, my presence was not "felt." One of my colleagues provided 
> feedback that by not being there, it didn't seem like I cared. This is 
> definitely not the case. I went on long walks as an act of love, not 
> negligence. 
> 
> Anyway, would love your thoughts.
> 
> Thanks,
> Jake
> 
> 
> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and you 
> will be free of problems.
>  - Robert Adams 
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Re: [OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)?

[Jake Yeager via OSList]

Hey Michael Pannwitz,

I had Michael Herman in mind, but I'd love to extend the question to
everyone.

Thanks for the question. :)

Jake




When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and
you will be free of problems.
 - Robert Adams 


On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 6:16 PM Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Jake,
> which Michael are your thinking of?
> mmp
>
> Am 08.02.2020 um 18:13 schrieb Jake Yeager via OSList:
> > Michael and Chris - do you allot time to review the notes prior to
> > organizing them?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 10:14 AM Jake Yeager  > > wrote:
> >
> > Again, a bunch of great ideas and perspectives on this thread.
> >
> > After considering it more, I am going to propose to the sponsor that
> > we adjust our convergence process. Per Michael and Chris's
> > suggestions, I will propose that participants organize the notes
> > into themes. This will assist meaning-making and pattern
> > recognition. Then, I will invite participants to vote on the themes
> > that they would like to see turned into OKRs. The top 3 get turned
> > into OKRs using the iterative sprints.
> >
> > This approach seems more organic and simple. It also seems to flow
> > better, and it requires less facilitation.
> >
> > I also like Ilan's ideas about structuring the notes towards the
> > outcomes. I may also incorporate that.
> >
> > Thanks again!
> >
> > 
> >
> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again,
> > and you will be free of problems.
> >   - Robert Adams 
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 4:42 AM Ilan Kirschenbaum
> > mailto:i...@practical-agile.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Extending this to an Open Space format, let the structure guide
> > the outcomes.
> > For example, have the session summary sheets have, in addition
> > to topic, convener and participants, titles for Main Objective
> > and for Key Results. You may wish to add (see if you can find
> > about 3 SMART key results) - if you want to guide participants
> > towards the OKRs concept. That said with a invitation to favor
> > the more open and the less prescriptive approach.
> >
> > As for the initiatives session, one thing we had at a client is
> > to prepare a large board with a table having tall rubrics for Os
> > on the left side, and wider and shorter rubrics for KRs in the
> > right.
> > During this session, participants - conveners and other - were
> > invited to place their Os and KRs in the board and share what
> > they found passion and responsibility for to take forward.
> > In effect, that way self-organized teams were formed to make
> > these initiatives happen.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 6:15 Chris Corrigan via OSList
> >  > > wrote:
> >
> > No...  If the sponsor already knows which OKR’s will matter,
> > then that would be “pre-set” answers, and I would forget
> > about open space. But specifying that “we are trying to
> > generate new OKRs” is a fine invitation, because it’s open
> > and the sponsor should be generally curious about what will
> > come out of it and how results will be used.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >> On Feb 6, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Jake Yeager via OSList
> >>  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Reviewing again this article
> >> <
> https://www.openspaceworld.org/files/tmnfiles/choosingopenspace(Bolton).html
> >
> >> by Diane Blair. She mentions two critical success factors
> >> for Open Space. One is that the sponsor does not have
> >> "pre-set outcomes." Would generating OKRs be considered a
> >> pre-set outcome you think?
> >> 
> >>
> >> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine
> >> once again, and you will be free of problems.
> >>  - Robert Adams 
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 6:05 PM Jake Yeager
> >> mailto:jacob.yea...@gmail.com>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Oops. It's 1.5 days I mean.
> >> 
> >>
> >> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will
> >> shine once again, and you will be free of problems.
> >>  - Robert Adams 
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 5:39 PM Jake Yeager
> >>  >>   

Re: [OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)?

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Jake,
which Michael are your thinking of?
mmp

Am 08.02.2020 um 18:13 schrieb Jake Yeager via OSList:
Michael and Chris - do you allot time to review the notes prior to 
organizing them?


Thanks

On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 10:14 AM Jake Yeager > wrote:


Again, a bunch of great ideas and perspectives on this thread.

After considering it more, I am going to propose to the sponsor that
we adjust our convergence process. Per Michael and Chris's
suggestions, I will propose that participants organize the notes
into themes. This will assist meaning-making and pattern
recognition. Then, I will invite participants to vote on the themes
that they would like to see turned into OKRs. The top 3 get turned
into OKRs using the iterative sprints.

This approach seems more organic and simple. It also seems to flow
better, and it requires less facilitation.

I also like Ilan's ideas about structuring the notes towards the
outcomes. I may also incorporate that.

Thanks again!



When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again,
and you will be free of problems.
  - Robert Adams 


On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 4:42 AM Ilan Kirschenbaum
mailto:i...@practical-agile.com>> wrote:

Extending this to an Open Space format, let the structure guide
the outcomes.
For example, have the session summary sheets have, in addition
to topic, convener and participants, titles for Main Objective
and for Key Results. You may wish to add (see if you can find
about 3 SMART key results) - if you want to guide participants
towards the OKRs concept. That said with a invitation to favor
the more open and the less prescriptive approach.

As for the initiatives session, one thing we had at a client is
to prepare a large board with a table having tall rubrics for Os
on the left side, and wider and shorter rubrics for KRs in the
right.
During this session, participants - conveners and other - were
invited to place their Os and KRs in the board and share what
they found passion and responsibility for to take forward.
In effect, that way self-organized teams were formed to make
these initiatives happen.



On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 6:15 Chris Corrigan via OSList
mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:

No...  If the sponsor already knows which OKR’s will matter,
then that would be “pre-set” answers, and I would forget
about open space. But specifying that “we are trying to
generate new OKRs” is a fine invitation, because it’s open
and the sponsor should be generally curious about what will
come out of it and how results will be used.

Chris


On Feb 6, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Jake Yeager via OSList
mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:

Reviewing again this article


by Diane Blair. She mentions two critical success factors
for Open Space. One is that the sponsor does not have
"pre-set outcomes." Would generating OKRs be considered a
pre-set outcome you think?


When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine
once again, and you will be free of problems.
 - Robert Adams 


On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 6:05 PM Jake Yeager
mailto:jacob.yea...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

Oops. It's 1.5 days I mean.


When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will
shine once again, and you will be free of problems.
 - Robert Adams 


On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 5:39 PM Jake Yeager
mailto:jacob.yea...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Thank you everyone for your feedback! It is much
welcomed, and you have provided a lot to chew on.
It's such a treat to hear from experienced
practitioners.

Some info:

  * I have one day for the event
  * There are about 30 participants: assistant
managers to the SVP
  * Objectives are strategic initiatives, and key
results are how you measure your success
  * We need to define both objectives and key
results by the end of the day: so, it's a
tight time-frame

At this moment, I feel that I am too far down the
  

Re: [OSList] How do you "hold space?"

[Michael Herman via OSList]

There is also the possibility of sitting in the sessions, when you're part
of the group.  Tricky in the first go-round though.  When I do sit in, I
tend not to say very much, as I'm having a very diff experience than
everyone else.  I don't sit in sessions during first or last sessions, so
they get started without me and i'm ready for closing or evening news.  But
for this it helps for the group to have at least one experience of OS and
it's another layer of pulsation of awareness for the facilitator, between
the group you're in and the rest of the field.

--

Michael Herman
Michael Herman Associates
312-280-7838 (mobile)

MichaelHerman.com
OpenSpaceWorld.org




On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 3:58 PM Jeff Aitken via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Hi Jake. For me, to hold space is to attend to the field that extends
> beyond the center of the opening circle out to wherever participants are
> moving.
>
> Harrison's famous story is to be sitting at the hotel bar, while
> participants are following the law of mobility into breakouts and butterfly
> conversations around the grounds. Choosing your level of engagement is at
> the core of the law.
>
> It sounds like the feedback is to stay a bit closer to the center of the
> opening circle, so that the fact you are holding the field is more
> apparent. That's a practice in sensing the field.
>
> I often stay nearby for a while, then move away, then come back as the
> energy of the event turns toward closing.
>
> It also can take particular attention to hold space in an organization of
> which you are a member. If it seems ok for me to do it at all, I might also
> invite an outside cofacilitator who can notice subtle dynamics that i miss.
> Such as in the important transition after the OST into the daily work and
> dynamics of the organization.
>
> Jeff
> Telegraph Hill, San Francisco
>
> On Sat, Feb 8, 2020, 11:41 AM Chris Corrigan via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>> Harrison has described as being “totally invisible but completely
>> present.”  I rarely leave the room. But I also never intervene. If asked to
>> help I respond with “what would you like to do? Why don’t you take care of
>> it?” It’s about radical return of passion and responsibility to the people.
>> It is indeed risky. But the reward is immense.
>>
>> Chris.
>>
>> _
>> CHRIS CORRIGAN
>> www.chriscorrigan.com
>>
>> On Feb 8, 2020, at 12:45 PM, Jake Yeager via OSList <
>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Many questions these days. Thank you for entertaining them. :)
>>
>> This past week, I facilitated an eight-hour Open Space split across two
>> half-days. The attendees were an Organizational Development team, of which
>> I am a member. My AVP sponsored the event, because we had recently merged
>> with another group, and there was lack of clarity. So, our theme was: "Who
>> are we, and how do we collaborate to drive success?" Also, my AVP--who is a
>> leader in Learning & Development--wanted to experience Open Space in order
>> to understand it better as it is new to my firm.
>>
>> Since I am a fledgling facilitator, I chose not to participate in the
>> breakout sessions, even though I am part of the group. I wanted to make
>> sure that I provided the best experience for everyone, and participating
>> would have dampened my focus. I shared this with my manager, after she
>> inquired after the first day why I had not participated.
>>
>> Long story short, after the event, my manager had major concerns how I
>> facilitated the event. I had gone for long walks while the group was
>> working, and she felt that was very risky. I told her that the
>> facilitator's role is to remain "invisible" to allow the group to build its
>> capacity for self-management. She said that our firm's culture is very
>> hierarchical and that "baby steps" are needed. She suggested even
>> intervening in a group if it gets "stuck." I believe I mentioned that
>> intervening is not part of Open Space facilitation.
>>
>> So my question is: how do you "hold space?" I found Chris's description
>> on his website: "an Open Space Technology facilitator is neither seen nor
>> heard, but his or her presence is 'felt.'" I guess by going for long walks
>> and not being in the room, my presence was not "felt." One of my colleagues
>> provided feedback that by not being there, it didn't seem like I cared.
>> This is definitely not the case. I went on long walks as an act of love,
>> not negligence.
>>
>> Anyway, would love your thoughts.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jake
>> 
>>
>> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and
>> you will be free of problems.
>>  - Robert Adams 
>> ___
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Re: [OSList] How do you "hold space?"

[Jeff Aitken via OSList]

Hi Jake. For me, to hold space is to attend to the field that extends
beyond the center of the opening circle out to wherever participants are
moving.

Harrison's famous story is to be sitting at the hotel bar, while
participants are following the law of mobility into breakouts and butterfly
conversations around the grounds. Choosing your level of engagement is at
the core of the law.

It sounds like the feedback is to stay a bit closer to the center of the
opening circle, so that the fact you are holding the field is more
apparent. That's a practice in sensing the field.

I often stay nearby for a while, then move away, then come back as the
energy of the event turns toward closing.

It also can take particular attention to hold space in an organization of
which you are a member. If it seems ok for me to do it at all, I might also
invite an outside cofacilitator who can notice subtle dynamics that i miss.
Such as in the important transition after the OST into the daily work and
dynamics of the organization.

Jeff
Telegraph Hill, San Francisco

On Sat, Feb 8, 2020, 11:41 AM Chris Corrigan via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Harrison has described as being “totally invisible but completely
> present.”  I rarely leave the room. But I also never intervene. If asked to
> help I respond with “what would you like to do? Why don’t you take care of
> it?” It’s about radical return of passion and responsibility to the people.
> It is indeed risky. But the reward is immense.
>
> Chris.
>
> _
> CHRIS CORRIGAN
> www.chriscorrigan.com
>
> On Feb 8, 2020, at 12:45 PM, Jake Yeager via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> 
> Many questions these days. Thank you for entertaining them. :)
>
> This past week, I facilitated an eight-hour Open Space split across two
> half-days. The attendees were an Organizational Development team, of which
> I am a member. My AVP sponsored the event, because we had recently merged
> with another group, and there was lack of clarity. So, our theme was: "Who
> are we, and how do we collaborate to drive success?" Also, my AVP--who is a
> leader in Learning & Development--wanted to experience Open Space in order
> to understand it better as it is new to my firm.
>
> Since I am a fledgling facilitator, I chose not to participate in the
> breakout sessions, even though I am part of the group. I wanted to make
> sure that I provided the best experience for everyone, and participating
> would have dampened my focus. I shared this with my manager, after she
> inquired after the first day why I had not participated.
>
> Long story short, after the event, my manager had major concerns how I
> facilitated the event. I had gone for long walks while the group was
> working, and she felt that was very risky. I told her that the
> facilitator's role is to remain "invisible" to allow the group to build its
> capacity for self-management. She said that our firm's culture is very
> hierarchical and that "baby steps" are needed. She suggested even
> intervening in a group if it gets "stuck." I believe I mentioned that
> intervening is not part of Open Space facilitation.
>
> So my question is: how do you "hold space?" I found Chris's description on
> his website: "an Open Space Technology facilitator is neither seen nor
> heard, but his or her presence is 'felt.'" I guess by going for long walks
> and not being in the room, my presence was not "felt." One of my colleagues
> provided feedback that by not being there, it didn't seem like I cared.
> This is definitely not the case. I went on long walks as an act of love,
> not negligence.
>
> Anyway, would love your thoughts.
>
> Thanks,
> Jake
> 
>
> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and
> you will be free of problems.
>  - Robert Adams 
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Re: [OSList] How do you "hold space?"

[Michael Herman via OSList]

Here's some of what I think is going on for me when facilitating... I do
sometimes leave the room, but not for what I'd call long walks.  If we're
in a hotel, I might have a reason to go retrieve something from my room,
pretty much out and back.  If it's a long walk, I might pass through all
the spaces we're using, on my way out and on my way back.  Mostly, I am
aware of awareness, swinging between how I am feeling as a body and how the
workspace is feeling to me, between what I am doing and what others are
doing, between doing things like picking up cups and not doing anything at
all.  Just sort of there taking care of everything, which includes myself.
And the reporting, if we're playing that way.  If there's a newsroom, it's
a good place to hang out, but I like to make passes through the rest of the
space.  I don't do other work, read a book, listen to music or anything
like that.  Unless you count glancing at headlines of a newspaper on a
table or in a hotel gift shop, or maybe scanning headlines online for a
minute or few, to give my attention a rest from the space.  But any of
those diversions are about being interested and paying attention to things
rather than leaving the group.  Nobody would see me as checked out.
Mostly, it's just being very aware of awareness and staying loose and
moving, inside and out, letting it go, letting the whole experience flow
through and around me.  There's nothing to do.  Even when the newsroom is
cooking.


--

Michael Herman
Michael Herman Associates
312-280-7838 (mobile)

MichaelHerman.com
OpenSpaceWorld.org




On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 12:25 PM Chris Corrigan via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Harrison has described as being “totally invisible but completely
> present.”  I rarely leave the room. But I also never intervene. If asked to
> help I respond with “what would you like to do? Why don’t you take care of
> it?” It’s about radical return of passion and responsibility to the people.
> It is indeed risky. But the reward is immense.
>
> Chris.
>
> _
> CHRIS CORRIGAN
> www.chriscorrigan.com
>
> On Feb 8, 2020, at 12:45 PM, Jake Yeager via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> 
> Many questions these days. Thank you for entertaining them. :)
>
> This past week, I facilitated an eight-hour Open Space split across two
> half-days. The attendees were an Organizational Development team, of which
> I am a member. My AVP sponsored the event, because we had recently merged
> with another group, and there was lack of clarity. So, our theme was: "Who
> are we, and how do we collaborate to drive success?" Also, my AVP--who is a
> leader in Learning & Development--wanted to experience Open Space in order
> to understand it better as it is new to my firm.
>
> Since I am a fledgling facilitator, I chose not to participate in the
> breakout sessions, even though I am part of the group. I wanted to make
> sure that I provided the best experience for everyone, and participating
> would have dampened my focus. I shared this with my manager, after she
> inquired after the first day why I had not participated.
>
> Long story short, after the event, my manager had major concerns how I
> facilitated the event. I had gone for long walks while the group was
> working, and she felt that was very risky. I told her that the
> facilitator's role is to remain "invisible" to allow the group to build its
> capacity for self-management. She said that our firm's culture is very
> hierarchical and that "baby steps" are needed. She suggested even
> intervening in a group if it gets "stuck." I believe I mentioned that
> intervening is not part of Open Space facilitation.
>
> So my question is: how do you "hold space?" I found Chris's description on
> his website: "an Open Space Technology facilitator is neither seen nor
> heard, but his or her presence is 'felt.'" I guess by going for long walks
> and not being in the room, my presence was not "felt." One of my colleagues
> provided feedback that by not being there, it didn't seem like I cared.
> This is definitely not the case. I went on long walks as an act of love,
> not negligence.
>
> Anyway, would love your thoughts.
>
> Thanks,
> Jake
> 
>
> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and
> you will be free of problems.
>  - Robert Adams 
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Re: [OSList] How do you "hold space?"

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

Harrison has described as being “totally invisible but completely present.”  I 
rarely leave the room. But I also never intervene. If asked to help I respond 
with “what would you like to do? Why don’t you take care of it?” It’s about 
radical return of passion and responsibility to the people. It is indeed risky. 
But the reward is immense. 

Chris. 

_
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www.chriscorrigan.com

> On Feb 8, 2020, at 12:45 PM, Jake Yeager via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Many questions these days. Thank you for entertaining them. :)
> 
> This past week, I facilitated an eight-hour Open Space split across two 
> half-days. The attendees were an Organizational Development team, of which I 
> am a member. My AVP sponsored the event, because we had recently merged with 
> another group, and there was lack of clarity. So, our theme was: "Who are we, 
> and how do we collaborate to drive success?" Also, my AVP--who is a leader in 
> Learning & Development--wanted to experience Open Space in order to 
> understand it better as it is new to my firm.
> 
> Since I am a fledgling facilitator, I chose not to participate in the 
> breakout sessions, even though I am part of the group. I wanted to make sure 
> that I provided the best experience for everyone, and participating would 
> have dampened my focus. I shared this with my manager, after she inquired 
> after the first day why I had not participated.
> 
> Long story short, after the event, my manager had major concerns how I 
> facilitated the event. I had gone for long walks while the group was working, 
> and she felt that was very risky. I told her that the facilitator's role is 
> to remain "invisible" to allow the group to build its capacity for 
> self-management. She said that our firm's culture is very hierarchical and 
> that "baby steps" are needed. She suggested even intervening in a group if it 
> gets "stuck." I believe I mentioned that intervening is not part of Open 
> Space facilitation. 
> 
> So my question is: how do you "hold space?" I found Chris's description on 
> his website: "an Open Space Technology facilitator is neither seen nor heard, 
> but his or her presence is 'felt.'" I guess by going for long walks and not 
> being in the room, my presence was not "felt." One of my colleagues provided 
> feedback that by not being there, it didn't seem like I cared. This is 
> definitely not the case. I went on long walks as an act of love, not 
> negligence. 
> 
> Anyway, would love your thoughts.
> 
> Thanks,
> Jake
> 
> 
> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and you 
> will be free of problems.
>  - Robert Adams
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[OSList] How do you "hold space?"

[Jake Yeager via OSList]

Many questions these days. Thank you for entertaining them. :)

This past week, I facilitated an eight-hour Open Space split across two
half-days. The attendees were an Organizational Development team, of which
I am a member. My AVP sponsored the event, because we had recently merged
with another group, and there was lack of clarity. So, our theme was: "Who
are we, and how do we collaborate to drive success?" Also, my AVP--who is a
leader in Learning & Development--wanted to experience Open Space in order
to understand it better as it is new to my firm.

Since I am a fledgling facilitator, I chose not to participate in the
breakout sessions, even though I am part of the group. I wanted to make
sure that I provided the best experience for everyone, and participating
would have dampened my focus. I shared this with my manager, after she
inquired after the first day why I had not participated.

Long story short, after the event, my manager had major concerns how I
facilitated the event. I had gone for long walks while the group was
working, and she felt that was very risky. I told her that the
facilitator's role is to remain "invisible" to allow the group to build its
capacity for self-management. She said that our firm's culture is very
hierarchical and that "baby steps" are needed. She suggested even
intervening in a group if it gets "stuck." I believe I mentioned that
intervening is not part of Open Space facilitation.

So my question is: how do you "hold space?" I found Chris's description on
his website: "an Open Space Technology facilitator is neither seen nor
heard, but his or her presence is 'felt.'" I guess by going for long walks
and not being in the room, my presence was not "felt." One of my colleagues
provided feedback that by not being there, it didn't seem like I cared.
This is definitely not the case. I went on long walks as an act of love,
not negligence.

Anyway, would love your thoughts.

Thanks,
Jake


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you will be free of problems.
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Re: [OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)?

[Jake Yeager via OSList]

Michael and Chris - do you allot time to review the notes prior to
organizing them?

Thanks

On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 10:14 AM Jake Yeager  wrote:

> Again, a bunch of great ideas and perspectives on this thread.
>
> After considering it more, I am going to propose to the sponsor that we
> adjust our convergence process. Per Michael and Chris's suggestions, I will
> propose that participants organize the notes into themes. This will assist
> meaning-making and pattern recognition. Then, I will invite participants to
> vote on the themes that they would like to see turned into OKRs. The top 3
> get turned into OKRs using the iterative sprints.
>
> This approach seems more organic and simple. It also seems to flow better,
> and it requires less facilitation.
>
> I also like Ilan's ideas about structuring the notes towards the outcomes.
> I may also incorporate that.
>
> Thanks again!
>
> 
>
> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and
> you will be free of problems.
>  - Robert Adams 
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 4:42 AM Ilan Kirschenbaum 
> wrote:
>
>> Extending this to an Open Space format, let the structure guide the
>> outcomes.
>> For example, have the session summary sheets have, in addition to topic,
>> convener and participants, titles for Main Objective and for Key Results.
>> You may wish to add (see if you can find about 3 SMART key results) - if
>> you want to guide participants towards the OKRs concept. That said with a
>> invitation to favor the more open and the less prescriptive approach.
>>
>> As for the initiatives session, one thing we had at a client is to
>> prepare a large board with a table having tall rubrics for Os on the left
>> side, and wider and shorter rubrics for KRs in the right.
>> During this session, participants - conveners and other - were invited to
>> place their Os and KRs in the board and share what they found passion and
>> responsibility for to take forward.
>> In effect, that way self-organized teams were formed to make these
>> initiatives happen.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 6:15 Chris Corrigan via OSList <
>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>
>>> No...  If the sponsor already knows which OKR’s will matter, then that
>>> would be “pre-set” answers, and I would forget about open space. But
>>> specifying that “we are trying to generate new OKRs” is a fine invitation,
>>> because it’s open and the sponsor should be generally curious about what
>>> will come out of it and how results will be used.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> On Feb 6, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Jake Yeager via OSList <
>>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Reviewing again this article
>>> 
>>> by Diane Blair. She mentions two critical success factors for Open Space.
>>> One is that the sponsor does not have "pre-set outcomes." Would generating
>>> OKRs be considered a pre-set outcome you think?
>>> 
>>>
>>> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and
>>> you will be free of problems.
>>>  - Robert Adams 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 6:05 PM Jake Yeager 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Oops. It's 1.5 days I mean.
 

 When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again,
 and you will be free of problems.
  - Robert Adams 


 On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 5:39 PM Jake Yeager 
 wrote:

> Thank you everyone for your feedback! It is much welcomed, and you
> have provided a lot to chew on. It's such a treat to hear from experienced
> practitioners.
>
> Some info:
>
>- I have one day for the event
>- There are about 30 participants: assistant managers to the SVP
>- Objectives are strategic initiatives, and key results are how
>you measure your success
>- We need to define both objectives and key results by the end of
>the day: so, it's a tight time-frame
>
> At this moment, I feel that I am too far down the line with the
> sponsor to switch up the schedule too much.
>
> I learned 25/10 Crowdsourcing in my Open Space Genuine Contact
> training for formulating recommendations and have found it to work well.
> That said, I am open to learning how to let go of control even more and
> will explore the many options provided on this thread for future events.
> I'm definitely open to learning more about how I can work "less hard" per
> Michael Pannwitz's comment. :)
>
> Also, I have incorporated some of your suggestions in my "convergence"
> design:
>
>- After the group generates the top 10 draft objectives from 25/10
>Crowdsourcing, I will invite the group to arrange them into 3 themes 
> rather
>than voting on them.
>- I will 

Re: [OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)?

[Jake Yeager via OSList]

Again, a bunch of great ideas and perspectives on this thread.

After considering it more, I am going to propose to the sponsor that we
adjust our convergence process. Per Michael and Chris's suggestions, I will
propose that participants organize the notes into themes. This will assist
meaning-making and pattern recognition. Then, I will invite participants to
vote on the themes that they would like to see turned into OKRs. The top 3
get turned into OKRs using the iterative sprints.

This approach seems more organic and simple. It also seems to flow better,
and it requires less facilitation.

I also like Ilan's ideas about structuring the notes towards the outcomes.
I may also incorporate that.

Thanks again!


When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and
you will be free of problems.
 - Robert Adams 


On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 4:42 AM Ilan Kirschenbaum 
wrote:

> Extending this to an Open Space format, let the structure guide the
> outcomes.
> For example, have the session summary sheets have, in addition to topic,
> convener and participants, titles for Main Objective and for Key Results.
> You may wish to add (see if you can find about 3 SMART key results) - if
> you want to guide participants towards the OKRs concept. That said with a
> invitation to favor the more open and the less prescriptive approach.
>
> As for the initiatives session, one thing we had at a client is to prepare
> a large board with a table having tall rubrics for Os on the left side, and
> wider and shorter rubrics for KRs in the right.
> During this session, participants - conveners and other - were invited to
> place their Os and KRs in the board and share what they found passion and
> responsibility for to take forward.
> In effect, that way self-organized teams were formed to make these
> initiatives happen.
>
>
>
> On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 6:15 Chris Corrigan via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>> No...  If the sponsor already knows which OKR’s will matter, then that
>> would be “pre-set” answers, and I would forget about open space. But
>> specifying that “we are trying to generate new OKRs” is a fine invitation,
>> because it’s open and the sponsor should be generally curious about what
>> will come out of it and how results will be used.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On Feb 6, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Jake Yeager via OSList <
>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>
>> Reviewing again this article
>> 
>> by Diane Blair. She mentions two critical success factors for Open Space.
>> One is that the sponsor does not have "pre-set outcomes." Would generating
>> OKRs be considered a pre-set outcome you think?
>> 
>>
>> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and
>> you will be free of problems.
>>  - Robert Adams 
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 6:05 PM Jake Yeager 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Oops. It's 1.5 days I mean.
>>> 
>>>
>>> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and
>>> you will be free of problems.
>>>  - Robert Adams 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 5:39 PM Jake Yeager 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thank you everyone for your feedback! It is much welcomed, and you have
 provided a lot to chew on. It's such a treat to hear from experienced
 practitioners.

 Some info:

- I have one day for the event
- There are about 30 participants: assistant managers to the SVP
- Objectives are strategic initiatives, and key results are how you
measure your success
- We need to define both objectives and key results by the end of
the day: so, it's a tight time-frame

 At this moment, I feel that I am too far down the line with the sponsor
 to switch up the schedule too much.

 I learned 25/10 Crowdsourcing in my Open Space Genuine Contact training
 for formulating recommendations and have found it to work well. That said,
 I am open to learning how to let go of control even more and will explore
 the many options provided on this thread for future events. I'm definitely
 open to learning more about how I can work "less hard" per Michael
 Pannwitz's comment. :)

 Also, I have incorporated some of your suggestions in my "convergence"
 design:

- After the group generates the top 10 draft objectives from 25/10
Crowdsourcing, I will invite the group to arrange them into 3 themes 
 rather
than voting on them.
- I will invite self-organization to refine the themes in parallel.
The group members will be able to choose which theme(s) they want to 
 refine
(or not) in a series of sprints with sprint reviews. The same setup with
key results.

 Learning as I go as we