Re: [OSList] Canada Conundrum - what do you think - reply to nazi comment

2022-02-19 Thread David Osborne via OSList
Thank you Chris for sharing your perspective from a Canadian in the US who
is not as close to what is actually going on there.

David

On Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 1:27 PM Chris Corrigan via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

>
> Mark:
>
> I have mostly been ignoring your posts around this but I have to speak out
> now.
>
> The leaders of the protest in Ottawa who have now been arrested include
> people who are open, brazen white supremacists, anti-Semites,
> anti-indigenous. Their views are all over the Internet. There are multiple
> far right and racist groups and leaders in this protest. There are flying
> their own flags and wearing their colours. They are not hiding. They are
> not just misunderstood people. They are openly promoting fascism, racism,
> white supremacy, xenophobia and anti-Senitism. There is an unbelievable
> amount of hate being spouted all over the place by these protestors.  Most
> of those who have followed them down this rabbit hole have failed to, or
> just refused to, dissociate themselves from these people or their views.
> There are very few people out there saying that these people don’t
> represent them. Most who disagree with these views have long ago left the
> protest site.
>
> Their objectives when they arrived in Ottawa were to sign an MOU with the
> Governor-General and the unelected Senate of the country to overthrow
> Parliament. They were funded by donations that came mostly from outside the
> country, mostly by Americans.
>
> These facts are not in dispute.
>
> Now I strongly believe in the right to protest. I understand people who
> are frustrated by public health restrictions but the idea that a group of
> people who broke hundreds of laws, who occupied the capital untouched for
> THREE WEEKS and set up bouncy castles and hit tubs are somehow “living in a
> tyranny” is an insult to the vast numbers of humans who struggle against
> oppression, genocide, and repression all over the world INCLUDING those who
> are arrested and brutalized defending their own Indigenous territories here
> in Canada today.
>
> Open space is about passion bounded by responsibility. It acknowledges
> that you have the ability to create conversation and to take responsibility
> for what you care about.
>
> And so I canno longer let these messages on this list pass by without
> taking the responsibility to point out that defense of these protestors and
> especially the characterization of the racists and white supremacists in
> the group as a few bad apples is deeply offensive to the hundreds of people
> of colour, Jews, Muslims, LGBTQ and indigenous people on this list. I beg
> of you that you reflect on who you are taking to in this forum and pause
> for some self-reflection.
>
> There is simply no place in the world to “yes but” when it comes to these
> ideas. If you passionately feel that you should be allowed to hate, or
> support and defend the right to promote hate, then that is you certainly
> have a right. But I have a responsibility to point out the company you are
> keeping and to denounce you.
>
> Mark, I firmly believe that you have not understood the essence of Open
> Space and your misunderstanding or willful ignorance of this situation
> leading conflation of what we are doing in the world as facilitators with
> the hate being spouted in Ottawa is deeply offensive.
>
> I’m pointing this out to you and asking you to stop dragging Open Space
> into this. I find your opinions inaccurate, untrustworthy, and intolerant.
> There are many ways we can discuss freedom without defending fascists. But
> if you insist on defending fascists I will speak up against you and defend
> the dignity and rights of humans to live free from hate. I am anti-fascist
> and anti-racist and I won’t let these ideas stand unchallenged.
>
> Chris.
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 10:05 AM Glenn Waters via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>> Enough of the nazi crap, please. I can't answer if you've misunderstood
>> something but let me share some facts about what is going on.
>>
>> In general this is a peaceful group of people. There are however a number
>> of people attending that are not peaceful. They harass, assault (physically
>> and verbally), and torment people who live in this area.
>>
>> A large portion of the downtown is closed because it has been taken over.
>> This is having real affect on those businesses that are already hanging on
>> by their fingernails to stay in business.
>>
>> For the residents living in this area the only two nearby grocery stores
>> have closed because they fear for the safety of their staff. Many other
>> stores and restaurants are closed for safety reasons.
>>
>> Nazi flags have been flown, as have other symbols that are commonly
>> associated with hate and supremacy.
>>
>> Well documented leaders of white supremacists groups are attending. This
>> does appear to be the minority, but I don't have data. Some have been
>> arrested in the 

Re: [OSList] Asking for your wisdom - Leora Tushinski

2021-03-03 Thread David Osborne via OSList
Interesting question Leona.

My answer is more about the principles of self-organization underneath
openspace (that I learned from Harrison over lunches and a cocktail or two
at the Glenn Echo Inn) than open space methodology.  Open space requires
something to be urgent and important.otherwise people won't care and
they won't show up and invest in it. I think as a manager part of your role
is defining what's important to the organization and why in a way that
people care. and want to contribute this sets the direction for your
team or group. The urgent important issue is like the camp fire that you
can then invite people to gather around and discuss.it is your role as
manager to make the environment inclusive and safe for people to gather and
share their views and ideas openly until insight emerges about the
situation itself and what to do about it.   The energy and motivation to
act will naturally arise at this point and you can help the group stay
connected and share information about progress and what's working and
what's not.  It's all self-organizing or emergent change. Where Harrison
and I differed and I'm still exploring his view is whether we need to do
anything at all or whether it will all happen by itself.   My view has been
that I care too, and I want to do something. I am part of the emergence. Is
my role necessary no. But without it something different will emerge.
Systems are always moving toward fragmentation or cohesion and your role as
manager will make a huge difference in which way they are headed.

Thanks for your question, and my best to all.

David

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> Hello everyone,
>
>
> This is my first time in the OSList and I am writing to ask for the wisdom
> I am sure is held in this group.
>
> My name is Leora and I'm a student of "Dialogic interventions in Large
> group" , held by Tova Averbuch and Rotem Ofer.
>
> As a manager I have a challenge (and maybe a fear): wondering how to
> "hold" the tension between the "freedom" in the OS method,   and
> “purposefulness” needed in most of the processes .
>
> How can we expect to get to "bottom lines" (get the work done) when we
> depend only on the people who come, and what they decide…?
>
>   And more, how can we avoid   the "loose" rules   lead to "anarchy",
> especially in complex environment?
>
> I will appreciate your time, attention and wisdom
>
> Thank you
>
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Re: [OSList] I just had an Idea: How About We Nominate Harrison Owen for the Nobel Peace Prize?

2021-02-02 Thread David Osborne via OSList
Love this idea !!!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 2, 2021, at 6:15 PM, Barry Owen via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> ABSOLUTELY! I'm IN!
> 
>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 5:29 PM Jeff Aitken via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> I know university faculty who might be thrilled to submit such a nomination 
>> with team support. I am curious if any OS Institute leadership want to step 
>> in. 
>> 
>> The website says these nominations are kept confidential for 50 years. So 
>> maybe a focused small private endeavor is a way to proceed. Rather than any 
>> campaign toward a groundswell of support.
>> 
>> Warmly
>> Jeff
>> 
>>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021, 8:31 AM Romy Shovelton via OSList 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Great idea ! If we miss this year… we can take this next year to prepare 
>>> for the nominations in 2022….
>>> 
>>> Romy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Romy Shovelton
>>> 
>>> Executive Director
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>>> Mid Wales Venue & Holiday Cottages
>>> 
>>> 
 On 31 Jan 2021, at 20:55, Jeff Aitken via OSList 
  wrote:
 
 Nominations are due in two hours (midnight CET.)  : ) 
 
 Seems like a call for a plan to nominate by Jan 31, a year from now.
 
> On Sun, Jan 31, 2021, 12:31 PM Jeff Aitken  
> wrote:
> Maybe an OS Institute can be considered a Peace Research Institute! We 
> are studying the Practice of Peace are we not? The case to make on this 
> is also a case for HHO... 
> 
> Jeff
> 
>> On Sun, Jan 31, 2021, 12:26 PM Jeff Aitken  
>> wrote:
>> Mark, this great idea led me to the website that shows how to send a 
>> nomination online.
>> 
>> The deadline each year is January 31 -which is today! - for this year's 
>> prize. 
>> 
>> The limited list of those who are eligible to submit a nomination is 
>> also on the site. 
>> https://www.nobelpeaceprize.org/Nomination/Criteria-for-nominators
>> 
>> Unless any of us are members of a national assembly, or on the board of 
>> a Peace Prize winning organization, the most obvious eligible group (to 
>> me) is this below. Anyone fit the bill?
>> 
>> University professors, professors emeriti and associate professors of 
>> history, social sciences, law, philosophy, theology, and religion; 
>> university rectors and university directors (or their equivalents); 
>> directors of peace research institutes and foreign policy institutes
>> 
>>> On Sun, Jan 31, 2021, 12:06 PM Mark Carmel via OSList 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Who Better?  Who is more deserving?  No one in my humble opinion.  If 
>>> the world becomes open to peace and human understanding, then our 
>>> dearly beloved Harrison Owen CREATED the way...for the world to follow. 
>>>  The list serve could provide the documentation of the history of 
>>> Peacemaking as proof, for the Nobel Peace Prize application... 
>>> MC
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Re: [OSList] Urgency criterion?

2019-10-10 Thread David Osborne via OSList
Building on Barry’s point, is it a felt sense of urgency, where people in the 
system have a felt sense they need to do something / take action.

David

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> On Oct 10, 2019, at 10:43 AM, Barry Owen via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> My 1st thought: Don't confuse "Important" with "urgent". I feel that Urgency 
> is often vague  . . . So I tend to focus more on "need for resolution" - 
> often one person's urgency deflects focus from determining the real issue. 
> 
> This message has been sent from my mobile device and therefore may be 
> somewhat wonky.
> 
> Barry Owen
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> Principal Broker & Founder
> Pareto Realty, LLC
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> Nashville, TN 37215
> 
> http://BarryOwen.us
> 
>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 9:32 AM Jake Yeager via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> Hey everyone,
>> 
>> In your experience, how critical is the urgency criterion for having a 
>> successful OST event? If there is significant passion around the issue, but 
>> it is not very urgent, will an OST event still be successful?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> All the best,
>> Jake
>> 
>> 
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>> will be free of problems.
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Re: [OSList] Urgency criterion?

2019-10-10 Thread David Osborne via OSList
Passion and urgency are tapping into the same energy. The condition  I would 
consider is what degree of autonomy to act supports the passion versus the 
degree of control preventing action is also present.

David

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> On Oct 10, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Jake Yeager via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hey everyone,
> 
> In your experience, how critical is the urgency criterion for having a 
> successful OST event? If there is significant passion around the issue, but 
> it is not very urgent, will an OST event still be successful?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> All the best,
> Jake
> 
> 
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Re: [OSList] Why CERTIFICATION makes sense considering this conversation on Mission, Vision Strategy Plans, etc.

2019-08-14 Thread David Osborne via OSList
Great thoughtful post Mark. Thanks for stimulating my thinking, reflection and 
imagination. 

David

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> On Aug 14, 2019, at 11:39 AM, Mark Carmel via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Fascinating conversation. This is exactly why we need a certification-like 
> program and an organizational structure for the future if we want to train 
> people in the finer points of sustaining open space interventions over time 
> as Chris has done. There is a lot more to it than just throwing out an 
> invitation and opening up the market place. It is interesting to me that from 
> the most seasoned open space masters the idea was instantly shot down, 
> saying...we discussed that already... Now that is not what an open space 
> facilitator normally does right? Shoot down other people's ideas. The world 
> has evolved into one that respects credentials. Interestingly the ones who 
> spoke the strongest against certification have already given themselves nice 
> fancy titles. Which is wonderful.  Because credentials really do matter. 
> Right now open space facilitators must give themself their own title and 
> otherwise have no backing whatsoever to lend credibility to their self given 
> titles. When you talk about overcoming the resistance of executives and with 
> the retaliation nation nature of things now (look at Hong Kong) it makes 
> sense to put some structure to the educational credentialing of OSTsters from 
> apprentice  to Master to mentor.  In terms of VISION and MISSION and VALUES 
> and STRATEGY, why is it that we facilitators want to apply that same 
> organizational structure for ALL other organizations but resist doing the 
> same for OUR work, to create OUR organization... What IS our vision...to hope 
> the world magically organizes around OST... or to make it happen through a 
> viable 1,000 year vision.  In his great book, Leadership Is,  Harrison is 
> spot on to define OST as the ONE way for leaders to be a caretaker of the 
> Spirit.  We must not be naive to believe that leaders will not crush the 
> Spirit once it emerges in Open Space. This requires highly advanced training 
> to be able to navigate the process over decades of implementation.  ALL great 
> decisions require great leadership. If OST ever gets an organization, I hope 
> this idea will be considered by its leaders or of course someone else will do 
> it or it will not be done. In some ways, or all ways, Harrison has created a 
> new religion of Spirit and I hope that an organizational structure WILL be 
> created kinda like that other dude who started out with 12 disciples. 
> Peace,
> Mark Carmel
> 
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>>1. Re: OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic Planning? (Chris Kloth)
>>2. Re: OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic Planning? (Harrison Owen)
>>3. Re: OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic Planning? (Peggy Holman)
>>4. Re: OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic Planning? (Jake Yeager)
>>5. Open Space Hangout! Tues Aug 13, 12 PM EDT! (Tony Budak)
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>> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 17:25:41 -0400
>> From: Chris Kloth 
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>> Jake, I hope to get back to you by this weekend. I am in the middle of  
>> a project with Prosecutor Impact (see Adam Foss' Ted Talk) that is  
>> pretty consuming. I know I have the file somewhere.
>> 
>> That said, Michael's comment about what's on the wall triggered a  
>> powerful memory. When I got to my site the night before we were to  
>> start a very resistant top executive made it clear to me that he  
>> thought this approach a ridiculous waste of time. He also made it  
>> clear that he was sure labor issues over wages and other workplace  
>> issues would probably come up and that there was no way these could be  
>> addressed in such a setting.
>> 
>> I thanked him for sharing his concerns and observed that labor issues  
>> would probably come up if it mattered to those in the room and  
>> requested that he trust me that it would be 

Re: [OSList] The Triumph of Truth Over Error...Chime in if that's OKAY with YOU? What do you say we raise some SERIOUS money OFFICIALLY training and certifying ALL the GOOD SPIRITS among us mortals to

2019-08-01 Thread David Osborne via OSList
I agree as well.


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On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 9:18 PM Elwin and Joan via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> and I agree with Chris and Koos
>
> NO
>
> eg
>
> On Thursday, August 1, 2019, 07:01:00 PM EDT, Harrison Owen via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>
> True. I think.
>
>
>
> ho
>
>
>
> *From:* OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Chris Corrigan via OSList
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 1, 2019 4:54 PM
> *To:* Koos de Heer; World wide Open Space Technology email list
> *Cc:* Chris Corrigan; Mark Carmel
> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] The Triumph of Truth Over Error...Chime in if
> that's OKAY with YOU? What do you say we raise some SERIOUS money
> OFFICIALLY training and certifying ALL the GOOD SPIRITS among us mortals to
> become CERTIFIED OPEN SPACE TECHNOLOGISTS???
>
>
>
> I strongly agree with Koos.
>
>
>
> No.
>
>
>
> Chris Corrigan.
>
>
>
> On Aug 1, 2019, at 1:10 PM, Koos de Heer via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> No thanks. I suggest you scan the archive of this list at
> http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/ to
> find out why. There are over 1,000 matches on “certified” or
> “certification.” No use repeating this discussion over and over again.
>
>
>
> *Van:* OSList  *Namens *Mark
> Carmel via OSList
> *Verzonden:* donderdag 1 augustus 2019 21:36
> *Aan:* World wide Open Space Technology email list <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>
> *CC:* Mark Carmel 
> *Onderwerp:* [OSList] The Triumph of Truth Over Error...Chime in if
> that's OKAY with YOU? What do you say we raise some SERIOUS money
> OFFICIALLY training and certifying ALL the GOOD SPIRITS among us mortals to
> become CERTIFIED OPEN SPACE TECHNOLOGISTS???
>
>
>
> Dear World Wide Open Space Technologists,
>
>
>
> ALL we have to do ONLY requires a collective DECISION.
>
>
>
> Here is the question:  Are you IN or out?
>
>
>
> Mark Carmel
>
> Wannabe Certified OST
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Re: [OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 99, Issue 16

2019-07-20 Thread David Osborne via OSList
I am finding these messages offensive.

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> On Jul 20, 2019, at 2:28 AM, Mark Carmel via OSList 
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> Yeah seek out the leader and prepare to be misled and deceived by the leader. 
> Fuck the lying leaders   Let the people lead...  
> 
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>> Dear friends and colleagues in Open Space,
>> When you facilitate an OST meeting in an organization, it is the formal
>> leader who opens the space inside his/her organization for this meeting to
>> take place. Whether the leader feels well versed in what OST is or is
>> simply going along with something that has been recommended, that person
>> has an experience that is also a big opportunity...for the single leader
>> and/or the leadership team.
>> 
>> If you also recognize the wonderful opportunity in front of this leader as
>> you have discussions with the leader and leadership team, you may be
>> interested in the five self study modules that our team is calling our Next
>> Level Leadership learning track
>> . The
>> five modules are designed for just such a leader to go through in a self
>> study mode to encourage some of the thinking that is important to lead an
>> organization within the new leadership paradigm within which OST fits
>> "Leading So People Will Lead".
>> 
>> Since 1992 I have been fascinated by what happens when formal leaders
>> including leadership teams sponsor and experience an Open Space Technology
>> meeting in their workplace. There are a few different story lines that
>> emerged. First, it is important to share with you that within how we teach
>> about Working with Open Space Technology in our Genuine Contact program, we
>> encourage facilitators of the OST meeting to have a 'debrief meeting' with
>> these leaders (the sponsors). The questions we ask in the debrief meeting
>> are kept simple and are intended for heightening learning from the shared
>> experience of having been in an OST meeting. Yes, simple action-reflection
>> learning.
>> 
>> In my experience, OST always works. And always, the quality and quantity of
>> outcomes surpasses all expectations. So...that is part of what is reflected
>> on during the debrief meeting. Within an OST meeting, there is always the
>> experience of leadership popping up by just about everyone; people stating
>> that they experience a shared vision during the meeting; a real sense of
>> community with good communication throughout; and self management within
>> the container created. This is also discussed in the debrief meeting. Then
>> comes the question that for me is of utmost importance. Here it is "During
>> the OST meeting, you experienced exceptional performance by the people who
>> participated as you have just discussed. If you are not getting that
>> exceptional performance every day, would you like to?".
>> 
>> Silence is the first response.
>> The second response is "no, this is not our daily experience"
>> Then comes the discussion of "we want this in our daily experience BUT we
>> are not ready". I reply "you say you want exceptional performance. Your
>> people have shown you within the OST meeting that they are capable of
>> exceptional performance already. If you are not having this exceptional
>> performance on a daily lived basis and you want it, what is it you are not
>> ready for?"
>> 
>> The answer has consistently been about the leadership capacity of the
>> leadership team to lead an organization of people who are engaged in the
>> ways that were visible in the OST meeting. This is a vulnerable
>> conversation to be having and I feel a lot of respect for the leaders and
>> the discussion.
>> 
>> My personal favorite outcome of the discussion is the leader (leadership
>> team) expressing an 

Re: [OSList] Relationship between Appreciative Inquiry and OST?

2019-06-24 Thread David Osborne via OSList
My thought is that they both set the conditions for self-organization.

Our field has not transitioned to fully understanding the power and
potential of self-organization and is just getting glimpses of how to
influence/leverage it.

David



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On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 8:13 AM Jake Yeager via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Hey everyone,
>
> First, thank you all for entertaining my questions! I really appreciate
> your responses: they help me learn a great deal and to recognize the--often
> erroneous!--assumptions I am making.
>
> That said, I have another question! :) What do you find to be the
> relationship between Appreciative Inquiry (AI) and OST?
>
> I am studying AI as part of my OD training at work, and it doesn't sit
> 100% with me like Open Space does. I think it's because I feel it is
> manipulative, that is, it uses generative questions to guide participants'
> trajectory as opposed to letting the participants themselves choose their
> trajectory. However, AI appears to be very effective, so I wonder if my
> resistance is due to some unconscious bias I have.
>
> Would love to hear your thoughts.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Much love,
> Jake
> 
>
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Re: [OSList] Orgs that Failed to Implement Self-Organization?

2019-06-21 Thread David Osborne via OSList
PS - I love the real case examples many thanks.

David


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On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 6:39 AM Daniel Mezick via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> 
>
> I'm glad you find it useful, interesting etc.
>
> Every day worldwide, "Agile" is forced. All in the name of self-management
> and so on. You can imagine the results, and the harm to people. Here is one
> of the stories:
>
>
>
> https://web.archive.org/web/20190313181520/https://thetech.com/2016/02/11/istfeature-v136-n3
>
> IS is attempting to apply the agile approach to the entire organization.
> “Agile organizations,” Charles wrote in a February email, “need empowered
> leadership at the individual and team levels — that means less management
> and more fluidity.”
>
> The sweeping transformation that is currently underway at MIT’s
> Information Systems and Technology office is one that is unprecedented in
> its scope and backlash from employees.
> This has resulted in roughly 20 percent of nearly 300 staff members
> leaving since February, instead of the average 8 or 9 percent annual
> turnover. The reorganization stands out in several ways. Many longtime
> employees have resigned — by the estimate of a former employee, Laura
> Baldwin ’89, more than 700 years of experience have been lost from people
> parting ways. A number of those employees have been MIT alumni.
>
>
> See also: https://twitter.com/DanielMezick/status/880124938467913729
>
>
>
>
> *Daniel Mezick*
> Phone: 203 915 7248
> Bio & Contact Info: http://www.DanielMezick.com
> Latest Book: http://www.InvitingLeadership.com
>
> Business Agility Leadership event May 14-15 Boston:
> The Open Leadership Symposium 
>
>
>
> On Jun 21, 2019, at 6:28 AM, Royle, Karl via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> Thanks for sharing this,  having just read holocracy... it’s good to know
> that these things always need adaption to cultures...
>
> The point about power and mandating is also very interesting.
>
> Best Karl
>
> Sent by iPhone
> Karl Royle
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>
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> University of Wolverhampton
> 01902323006
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>
>
> On 21 Jun 2019, at 11:09, Daniel Mezick via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Jake,
>
> There are many failed examples of "mandated self organization." You can
> imagine the success rate of such an approach.
>
> Now, the Agile industry is pretty good at selling this "mandated self
> organization" stuff. But I'm getting ahead of the story...
>
> Most of the failure stories do not make it out into the wild. But the
> insiders do whisper about them. To friends and colleagues. In dinner
> discussions at conferences. And so on...
>
>
>
> The Mandate of Holacracy at Zappos
>
>
> In 2013-14, Zappos mandated a way of working called 'holacracy.' The idea
> was, I think, to encourage more self-organization. More good outcomes. I'm
> sure the intentions were good at the time...
>
> But there were big problems by late 2013.
>
> By 2014, the "mandate of holacracy for self-organization at Zappos" was in
> big trouble, even as the press was celebrating 'holacracy' at Zappos as the
> future of work, the shining example, the path forward in the new world of
> work.
>
> But there were big problems. Lots of resistance. I heard the whispers
> through a friend on the inside, a person with access to the CEO.
>
> Through that friend, I quietly offered some help (I had some consulting
> work inside the org previously,) and in Las Vegas a lunch meeting was
> arranged with the CEO.
>
> I flew out there. I showed up with a file folder with some Open Space
> stuff inside. We ate tacos.
>
> I talked to Tony, the CEO, and briefly explained OST. I took a few
> questions. We had a nice lunch.
>
> The result was that, a couple weeks later, Tony did experiment with a very
> brief OST of 2 hours at a Zappos all-hands meeting. No burning issue. No
> proceedings, etc.
>
> That was it. No further follow-through. No follow-up calls.
>
> I did not chase the CEO. But after a few more weeks of silence, I did
> write this:
>
> The Mandate of Holacracy at Zappos
> https://newtechusa.net/the-mandate-of-holacracy-at-zappos/
> 
> In case you have not heard, Zappos is rolling out a defined authority
> distribution scheme called “holacracy”.
>
> The way everyone works will change. Every single employee will be 

Re: [OSList] Orgs that Failed to Implement Self-Organization?

2019-06-21 Thread David Osborne via OSList
Yes, and ..this is all part of self-organization.  Stability is being
disrupted and people are using the law of two feet to make their choice as
individual agents in the system.

David


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On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 6:39 AM Daniel Mezick via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> 
>
> I'm glad you find it useful, interesting etc.
>
> Every day worldwide, "Agile" is forced. All in the name of self-management
> and so on. You can imagine the results, and the harm to people. Here is one
> of the stories:
>
>
>
> https://web.archive.org/web/20190313181520/https://thetech.com/2016/02/11/istfeature-v136-n3
>
> IS is attempting to apply the agile approach to the entire organization.
> “Agile organizations,” Charles wrote in a February email, “need empowered
> leadership at the individual and team levels — that means less management
> and more fluidity.”
>
> The sweeping transformation that is currently underway at MIT’s
> Information Systems and Technology office is one that is unprecedented in
> its scope and backlash from employees.
> This has resulted in roughly 20 percent of nearly 300 staff members
> leaving since February, instead of the average 8 or 9 percent annual
> turnover. The reorganization stands out in several ways. Many longtime
> employees have resigned — by the estimate of a former employee, Laura
> Baldwin ’89, more than 700 years of experience have been lost from people
> parting ways. A number of those employees have been MIT alumni.
>
>
> See also: https://twitter.com/DanielMezick/status/880124938467913729
>
>
>
>
> *Daniel Mezick*
> Phone: 203 915 7248
> Bio & Contact Info: http://www.DanielMezick.com
> Latest Book: http://www.InvitingLeadership.com
>
> Business Agility Leadership event May 14-15 Boston:
> The Open Leadership Symposium 
>
>
>
> On Jun 21, 2019, at 6:28 AM, Royle, Karl via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> Thanks for sharing this,  having just read holocracy... it’s good to know
> that these things always need adaption to cultures...
>
> The point about power and mandating is also very interesting.
>
> Best Karl
>
> Sent by iPhone
> Karl Royle
> Head of Enterprise and Commercial Development
>
> Faculty of Education Health and Wellbeing
> University of Wolverhampton
> 01902323006
> 07815416698
> @karlroyle. On Twitter
> Karlr61 Skype
>
>
> On 21 Jun 2019, at 11:09, Daniel Mezick via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Jake,
>
> There are many failed examples of "mandated self organization." You can
> imagine the success rate of such an approach.
>
> Now, the Agile industry is pretty good at selling this "mandated self
> organization" stuff. But I'm getting ahead of the story...
>
> Most of the failure stories do not make it out into the wild. But the
> insiders do whisper about them. To friends and colleagues. In dinner
> discussions at conferences. And so on...
>
>
>
> The Mandate of Holacracy at Zappos
>
>
> In 2013-14, Zappos mandated a way of working called 'holacracy.' The idea
> was, I think, to encourage more self-organization. More good outcomes. I'm
> sure the intentions were good at the time...
>
> But there were big problems by late 2013.
>
> By 2014, the "mandate of holacracy for self-organization at Zappos" was in
> big trouble, even as the press was celebrating 'holacracy' at Zappos as the
> future of work, the shining example, the path forward in the new world of
> work.
>
> But there were big problems. Lots of resistance. I heard the whispers
> through a friend on the inside, a person with access to the CEO.
>
> Through that friend, I quietly offered some help (I had some consulting
> work inside the org previously,) and in Las Vegas a lunch meeting was
> arranged with the CEO.
>
> I flew out there. I showed up with a file folder with some Open Space
> stuff inside. We ate tacos.
>
> I talked to Tony, the CEO, and briefly explained OST. I took a few
> questions. We had a nice lunch.
>
> The result was that, a couple weeks later, Tony did experiment with a very
> brief OST of 2 hours at a Zappos all-hands meeting. No burning issue. No
> proceedings, etc.
>
> That was it. No further follow-through. No follow-up calls.
>
> I did not chase the CEO. But after a few more weeks of silence, I did
> write this:
>
> The Mandate of Holacracy at Zappos
> https://newtechusa.net/the-mandate-of-holacracy-at-zappos/
> 
> In case you have not heard, Zappos is rolling out 

Re: [OSList] Orgs that Failed to Implement Self-Organization?

2019-06-21 Thread David Osborne via OSList
Rob,

That is a beautiful description of self-organization.  Thanks for sharing
it.

David


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On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 2:24 AM R Chaffe via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Jake,
> By definition self organisation occurs despite any efforts to make it
> happen.  Self means just that ie. it is about personal commitment to one’s
> self.  When a system self organises those who are viewing it as if through
> a window wonders how?  Then the question is why?  In change again by
> definition new things are operating in the environment we are in.  Maslow
> would say we revert to the base of his needs and then as we mature we reach
> the ultimate self actualisation.  So the function of a self organising or
> self managed group will be compromised when someone’s needs are not met.
>
> Normally, from my experience the organisation or management of the group
> will move to and fro through a range of responses that what we might call
> “living cadence”. And if the situation is compromised beyond the group’s
> ability to cope we can say the self organised group has failed.
>
> Having had the privilege of working in a number of self organising groups
> it is as if by magic things get done to standards way in excess of what I
> had thought possible.  Over time groups evolve as they adapt to their
> environment.  As said in the bible there is a time for everything as one
> waxes one wanes.
>
> Regards
> Rob
>
> > On 21 Jun 2019, at 12:04 pm, Juliane Martina Roell (Structure & Process)
> via OSList  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Jake Yeager via OSList schrieb am 20.06.19 um 19:31:
> >> Hey everyone,
> >> Does anyone know of organizations that attempted to implement
> self-organization but failed? If so, do you know some of the factors that
> contributed to the failure? We hear about the successes, like Semco and
> AES, but rarely about the failures. I'd like to understand better what the
> pitfalls are and also what the success rate is.
> > Hi Jake,
> >
> > what do you mean by "implement self-organization"?
> > How would one go about doing that?
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Juliane.
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Re: [OSList] Orgs that Failed to Implement Self-Organization?

2019-06-20 Thread David Osborne via OSList
Jake,

I'm curious what you mean by implement self-organization?  My reference
point is that it's all self-organizing regarless of what a leader does and
there are conditions that impact the nature of the self-organizing process
to slow it down to a stand-still (control) or accelerate it etc.

Do you mean implement open-space? or Agile approaches etc.

Best,

David


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On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 7:32 PM Jake Yeager via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Hey everyone,
>
> Does anyone know of organizations that attempted to implement
> self-organization but failed? If so, do you know some of the factors that
> contributed to the failure? We hear about the successes, like Semco and
> AES, but rarely about the failures. I'd like to understand better what the
> pitfalls are and also what the success rate is.
>
> Thanks!
>
> All the best,
> Jake
> 
>
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> you will be free of problems.
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Re: [OSList] Skye Hello and Welcome today to OS Hotline

2019-02-26 Thread David Osborne via OSList
Hi Skye,

I am engaged by your observations and questions you ask.  To me urgency
connects with the Drive for Fitness condition for self-organization. If you
want something new or different from the status quo to emerge drive for
fitness/ urgency is a huge help/accelerant.  In today's day and age of
being dulled by information overload defining what's urgent and why as part
of the invitation is very helpful. Others, of course, may see things
differently and that's where it always gets interesting and creates the
potential for insights, mindset shifts, and change.

My thoughts along the way.

David




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On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 1:42 PM Skye Hirst via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Just a follow up notice... We had 4 people on call today and the word
> "urgency" came up. What makes urgency?  What moves us in a world of
> overload with too much information?  How do we use technology to offer
> urgency that might help us act in small ways when big urgencies use up so
> much of our energy, that we feel too numb to do anything?
>
> So, questions to myself I take away from today's conversation:
> How can I notice this and use it to invite into circle the urgency of the
> group, of the organization or community?
> Can I and/or the inviting group identify a common obvious urgency ?  Do
> invitations need to state the obvious urgency or does it just exist?  Or
> does the urgency become clear in the OS circle?  What simple question can I
> ask myself that would cause me to open more space to change the rest of my
> life? Whew,  where did that come from?  I suspect not directly from the
> conversation, but it's what came up in writing this.
>
>  What simple question are  you asking yourself about Open Space World and
> Technology,
> oh, heck, what about OST makes you feel alive with sense of urgency?
>
> Thanks all. Hope to see and hear from you next week, Tue. EST at noon.
>
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 7:20 AM Skye Hirst  wrote:
>
>> Hello all!!
>>
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Re: [OSList] Report From The Field

2019-01-08 Thread David Osborne via OSList
Thanks for your comments here Marai I found they resonated with me and I 
appreciated the intentionality I sensed. 

Best to all,

David

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 8, 2019, at 4:31 PM, Marai Kiele via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dear Mark,
> 
> I appreciate your flow of energy and appreciation, both for OST and Harrison! 
> I am fascinated, hearing about the „at that time“ largest educational 
> transformation group and I honour you as someone who has walked the trails of 
> OST before me.
> 
> At the same time, I notice my resentment in regard to this part of your 
> sharing: 
> 
>   "beware of the evil spirits that seek the status quo at all costs“ and 
> "fortify oneself against the forces that WILL seek to undermine change".
> 
> I actually don’t live within a paradigm of something like „evil spirits“, and 
> I find myself quite „resistant" to changing that world-view. I also don’t 
> believe in setting myself up „against“ anything, but instead I believe in 
> focusing on what is wanted. For me, this would include honouring those with a 
> different perspective on what I desire (which might be change or 
> transformation in regard to a specific subject).
> 
> I have heard the term, „the client is resistant“ both in therapy and 
> consulting contexts, and I notice great discomfort within me towards this 
> kind of label. 
> 
> Not mostly, but also from my personal experience of someone giving me that 
> „batch of honour". Someone who didn’t understand my perspective and how I was 
> actually serving a group with my intervention. It has now happened to me 
> several times that someone said to me (sometimes years later): „NOW I get 
> you! I thought you were just annoying/resistant, but you were right / 
> actually ahead of us with your perspective“.
> 
> And.. there are times when I am not at all ahead, but truly resistant to 
> change. For example because of different priorities. 
> 
> I will never forget the disbelief of the person at the iPhone help desk of my 
> mobile phone provider: 
> 
> I called to ask how to activate my new iPhone 6. Which had been sitting in my 
> desk for OVER A YEAR unused, after I had received the new model. He couldn’t 
> believe that I hadn’t activated it right away. I imagine he might have shared 
> that story during his coffee break with colleagues and all of them shaking 
> their heads or laughing about that strange client.
> I just hadn't wanted to let go of my iPhone 3s (until I really had to because 
> I couldn’t get software updates anymore). Back then, I so preferred its 
> design. I mostly used it to make calls, not for the internet, and it fit so 
> nicely into my hand and the back pocket of my jeans… Clearly a criteria that 
> many tech savvy people will not find as important at I did!
> 
> So the „moral“ of my story: What might be the things that other people value 
> which we don’t understand, when we judge them as „resistant“?
> 
> I very much appreciate how that perspective is embodied in this short video, 
> narrated by Charles Eisenstein: 
> 
>   What is it like to be you?
>   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uStmnodUpOo
> 
> Also, isn’t OST based on invitation? And if there is something like 
> „resistance to following an invitation“, is it a true invitation in the first 
> place?
> 
>   (Kudos to Dan Mezick and Mark Sheffield and their book on Inviting 
> Leadership) 
> 
> With respect,
> Marai
> 
> 
> 
>> Am 08.01.2019 um 02:41 schrieb Mark Carmel via OSList 
>> :
>> 
>> Greetings Fellow OST Practitioners!
>> 
>> It is an honor to join you once again.  I met the great Harrison Owen in the 
>> early 1990's and began immediately facilitating Open Space.  I hope some of 
>> you remember me.  Guided by Harrison's mentor-ship I set the world record 
>> with a 700 person group in 1993, the largest at the time for an educational 
>> transformation.  
>> 
>> To my fellow followers of His Honor, Harrison "The GREAT" Owen, THE Inventor 
>> of the Magic and Miracle of OPEN SPACE, (or the Receiver, from the Great 
>> Inventor...) I honor you for carrying on His Legacy.  
>> 
>> May I suggest to ALL, that when the Space is Opened to the Spirit of Change, 
>> you are playing with the fire of the crucible right there, fomenting the 
>> ferver that IS the crux of CHAOS, and thus bringing out the very, very Good 
>> in people, and also, sometimes, the bad.  In all your preparations, beware 
>> of the evil spirits that seek the status quo at all costs, sometimes, 
>> literally.  Change dies hard, as it is said, and in America, we now live in 
>> Retaliation Nation, where change, may be, and is, often, met with 
>> resistance.  
>> 
>> To fortify oneself against the forces that WILL seek to undermine change 
>> (and not in an open way, quite the contrary), and undermine the change 
>> agents championing change, one tidbit of hopefully useful observation is 
>> warranted:  Make SURE Leadership is SOLID!  
>> 
>> It is such a joy to see O.S.T. alive and well. 

Re: [OSList] canadian tables

2018-12-03 Thread David Osborne via OSList
Michael,

As someone who says "It's all good" frequently, I appreciate this addition
to the story!

best to all,

David



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On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 4:45 PM Michael Herman 
wrote:

> i love this part from chris... "...anything in a system that causes an ice
> hockey game to break out is, by definition, Canadian."  ...but while I was
> pretty sure it was my engineering, I was thinking that Chris, the hockey
> nut (i.e. the Canadian) must have come up with the name.  I'd forgotten the
> kid with the rock, but i did remember those tables wrapping all around one
> end of the room and thinking it looked just like an indoor rink.
>
> here's another favorite little bit from that time... Chris might remember
> more of this one, too, but what i remember is that chris and judi and i
> were laughing a lot and found ourselves making lots of references to fr.
> brian bainbridge in our conversations.  we had a lot of fun describing
> everything as "it's all good," for instance.  when the three of us sat down
> to eat lunch together one day, somebody brought us, or we found on the
> table, somehow, some silverware and four napkins... three of the napkins
> were the same red that everyone else seemed to have at their tables but the
> fourth one was black.  brian, we laughed, was taking "fully present and
> totally invisible" to a whole new level!
>
> thanks for sharing these stories.
>
> michael
>
>
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>
> On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 2:35 PM David Osborne via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>> Chris,
>>
>> This story is priceless for many reasons. Not only do I now know the what
>> and why's of Canadian Tables but also it takes place in one of my
>> favorite places on earth AND the gift keeps on giving. It reminds me of
>> Judi Richardson who is a friend who I haven't seen in years from my
>> hometown in Canada. And of course as is true with every Canadian any story
>> that involves ice hockey is good.
>>
>> Thanks for humoring my curiosity and sharing such a great story.
>>
>> Best to all of you,
>>
>> David
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
>> On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 3:29 PM Chris Corrigan via OSList <
>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>
>>> The story is this:
>>>
>>> IN 2003 Michael Herman, Judi Richardson and I were doing an Open Space
>>> in Fairbanks Alaska in an amazing room which had a full mural on the wall.
>>> There was no way to tape anything to the wall, and there were no rolling
>>> whiteboards.  We had to improvise.  Micheal is the clever one, and he
>>> started setting up two meter tables on their end, by extending one leg and
>>> standing them up to make a portable wall.  As our agenda, and then news
>>> wall grew with the 60 or so sessions over two days, the wall grew too and
>>> it soon encompassed one end of the space and curled around the sides. It
>>> looked very much like a hockey rink.
>>>
>>> One of our participants was a young man who played on the Alaska ice
>>> hockey team and he had a puck shaped stone in his pocket.  He noticed the
>>> resemblance to an ice hockey rink.  During lunch one day he dropped the
>>> stone on the floor and a spontaneous game of foot hockey broke out at the
>>> end with the curved wall of tables.
>>>
>>> Michael called his innovation “Canadian tables” because anything in a
>>> system that causes an ice hockey game to break out is, by definition,
>>> Canadian.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> On Dec 3, 2018, at 12:20 PM, Jeff Aitken via OSList <
>>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I sent a photo of Chris Corrigan in Canada with Canadian Tables ! but
>>> the file size sent it to the list moderator.
>>>
>>> Portable tables are set up on their ends to make 2 meter tall portable
>>> walls perfect for os agenda making!
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>> San Francisco
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 3, 2018, 11:50 A

Re: [OSList] canadian tables

2018-12-03 Thread David Osborne via OSList
Chris,

This story is priceless for many reasons. Not only do I now know the what
and why's of Canadian Tables but also it takes place in one of my
favorite places on earth AND the gift keeps on giving. It reminds me of
Judi Richardson who is a friend who I haven't seen in years from my
hometown in Canada. And of course as is true with every Canadian any story
that involves ice hockey is good.

Thanks for humoring my curiosity and sharing such a great story.

Best to all of you,

David


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On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 3:29 PM Chris Corrigan via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> The story is this:
>
> IN 2003 Michael Herman, Judi Richardson and I were doing an Open Space in
> Fairbanks Alaska in an amazing room which had a full mural on the wall.
> There was no way to tape anything to the wall, and there were no rolling
> whiteboards.  We had to improvise.  Micheal is the clever one, and he
> started setting up two meter tables on their end, by extending one leg and
> standing them up to make a portable wall.  As our agenda, and then news
> wall grew with the 60 or so sessions over two days, the wall grew too and
> it soon encompassed one end of the space and curled around the sides. It
> looked very much like a hockey rink.
>
> One of our participants was a young man who played on the Alaska ice
> hockey team and he had a puck shaped stone in his pocket.  He noticed the
> resemblance to an ice hockey rink.  During lunch one day he dropped the
> stone on the floor and a spontaneous game of foot hockey broke out at the
> end with the curved wall of tables.
>
> Michael called his innovation “Canadian tables” because anything in a
> system that causes an ice hockey game to break out is, by definition,
> Canadian.
>
> Chris
>
> On Dec 3, 2018, at 12:20 PM, Jeff Aitken via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> I sent a photo of Chris Corrigan in Canada with Canadian Tables ! but the
> file size sent it to the list moderator.
>
> Portable tables are set up on their ends to make 2 meter tall portable
> walls perfect for os agenda making!
>
> Jeff
> San Francisco
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 3, 2018, 11:50 AM David Osborne via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org wrote:
>
>> As a Canadian I have to ask. What are “Canadian Tables”?
>>
>> Let me know and my best to all.
>>
>> David
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 3, 2018, at 11:33 AM, Doris Gottlieb via OSList <
>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Eva,
>>
>> Thanks for that lovely note. I have used Canadian Tables a few times and
>> I am so glad that way back when there were so many great OST facilitators
>> who discovered these ways to keep space open.
>>
>> With love,
>>
>> Doris
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 3:28 PM Eva P Svensson via OSList <
>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> Long time no see or post from me - but I really need to say that for the
>>> first time since about 20 years with Open Space I had the chance to use
>>> ”Canadian tables” when I worked at the Royal Opera house in Stockholm - and
>>> you could tell that there was NO way to put tape on the walls. Worked great
>>> of course :-)
>>> hugs
>>> Eva
>>>
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Re: [OSList] canadian tables

2018-12-03 Thread David Osborne via OSList
As a Canadian I have to ask. What are “Canadian Tables”?

Let me know and my best to all.

David

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 3, 2018, at 11:33 AM, Doris Gottlieb via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Eva,
> 
> Thanks for that lovely note. I have used Canadian Tables a few times and I am 
> so glad that way back when there were so many great OST facilitators who 
> discovered these ways to keep space open.
> 
> With love,
> 
> Doris
> 
>> On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 3:28 PM Eva P Svensson via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Long time no see or post from me - but I really need to say that for the 
>> first time since about 20 years with Open Space I had the chance to use 
>> ”Canadian tables” when I worked at the Royal Opera house in Stockholm - and 
>> you could tell that there was NO way to put tape on the walls. Worked great 
>> of course :-)
>> hugs
>> Eva
>> 
>> Bästa hälsningar
>>  
>> Eva P Svensson
>>  
>> EPS Human Invest AB
>> Co owner Genuine Contact Group Inc
>>  
>> "Verksamhetsutveckling genom människor skapar långsiktigt välmående företag 
>> och organisationer"
>>  
>> Anåsbergsvägen 22, 439 34 ONSALA
>> Besöksadress; Norra Allégatan 8, Göteborg
>> Tfn: 0300-615 05, Mobil; 0706- 89 85 50
>> www.epshumaninvest.se
>> Skype: eva.p.svensson
>> Facebook sida: EPS Human Invest AB
>> twitter:@EvaPSvensson
>> 
>> "Jag kan inte lära dig något. Allt jag kan göra är att ställa frågor till 
>> dig, och låta dig själv finna svaren." Sokrates
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [OSList] A Question About Safety

2018-08-28 Thread David Osborne via OSList
Looks really interesting. 

Thanks Michael

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 28, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Michael Herman via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> and this yesterday in the nytimes...
> 
> https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/27/books/review/splintering-william-egginton-coddling-greg-lukianoff-jonathan-haidt.html
> 
> a review of two books that suggest safety concerns, especially on college 
> campuses and within the iGen cohort that follows millennials, gets in the way 
> of people learning to communicate about important issues, setting democracy 
> up for failure.
> 
> 
> 
> THE SPLINTERING OF THE AMERICAN MIND 
> Identity Politics, Inequality, and Community on Today’s College Campuses 
> By William Egginton 
> 263 pp. Bloomsbury. $28.
> 
> THE CODDLING OF THE AMERICAN MIND
> How Good Intentions and Bad Ideas Are Setting Up a Generation for Failure 
> By Greg Lukianoff and Jonathan Haidt
> 338 pp. Penguin Press. $28.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> --
> 
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> 312-280-7838 (mobile)
> 
> http://MichaelHerman.com
> http://OpenSpaceWorld.org
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 1:10 PM, Dan Mezick via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> Here’s a book that associates computer network efficiency at scale with 
>> civilization-efficiency at scale. And vice versa, which is his essential 
>> point.
>> 
>> The conclusion is that individual agents are the only entities capable of 
>> making promises at that level and that this is actually super-efficient and 
>> in fact optimal in terms of at-scale system level performance:  how 
>> interesting...
>> 
>> Promise Theory: Thinking in Promises
>> 
>> https://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Promises-Designing-Systems-Cooperation/dp/1491917873
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 25, 2018, at 12:44 PM, Harrison Owen via OSList 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oh sure. YOU alone a responsible for what you do/are -- unless of course 
>>> you are mentally impaired. And nobody can keep you "honest" better that 
>>> your peers and colleagues. Presuming that they step up and do their job. Of 
>>> course, if they sit on the sideline and allow terrible things to happen... 
>>> It really is about taking personal responsibility for the life you live and 
>>> for those who live it with you. Nothing is perfect, of course, but we try.
>>> 
>>> ho
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Harrison Owen 7808 River Falls Dr Potomac, MD 20854 USA Phone 301-365-2093 
>>> (summer) 207-763-3261 www.openspaceworld.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Mona Saleh Abd El Salam via OSList 
>>> To: oslist 
>>> Cc: Mona Saleh Abd El Salam 
>>> Sent: Sat, Aug 25, 2018 12:34 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [OSList] A Question About Safety
>>> 
>>> Harrison,
>>> maybe you also indicate having everyone appreciated for what they do, as  
>>> well as having everyone responsible for what they do?
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 2:54 PM Harrison Owen via OSList 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Mona… In all the years that I have facilitated/participated in Open Space I 
>>> have never seen any physical violence. Tense situations for sure, but the 
>>> group always handled it and, most importantly, learned from it. I think I 
>>> understand what you mean with a “code of conduct” but I’ve never seen the 
>>> need for it and more to the point such a code could shift responsibility 
>>> for humane behavior from the individual to the Code. My hope is always to 
>>> “ultimize” (no such word, I know) each person’s responsibility for 
>>> themselves and their fellows. That it always (in my experience) seem to 
>>> work may prove something?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> ho
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of 
>>> Mona Saleh Abd El Salam via OSList
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 6:52 AM
>>> To: oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
>>> Cc: Mona Saleh Abd El Salam
>>> Subject: Re: [OSList] A Question About Safety
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> maybe you mean having individuals with some (common sense) that can be 
>>> listed in a (code of conduct) according to which they behave.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 12:34 PM David Osborne via OSList 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Quoting from Harrison 

Re: [OSList] A Question About Safety

2018-08-21 Thread David Osborne via OSList
Quoting from Harrison in *The Practice of Peace.*

Stuart Kaufman's original work which focused on biological systems aka the
emergence of life on earth describes five pre-conditions for open space,
one of which is "*A safe, nutrient-rich environment."   *Harrison goes on
to describe the equivalent for Human systems as *"some kind of safety and
support in the overall environment."*

I interpret safety as a psychologically safe space where individuals can
act and speak ( take risks, share diverse views etc.

Can it be too safe to support self-organization?

David


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On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 2:13 AM, Bhavesh Patel  wrote:

> Curious to know what you mean by 'safety'?
>
> On 21 August 2018 at 07:49, David Osborne via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>> Greetings all,
>>
>> I have questions about safety related to self-organization I would love
>> others thoughts on.
>>
>> Is it possible for an environment can be too safe to support
>> self-organization? Can safety be at such a high level that it inhibits or
>> slows down the self-organizing process?
>>
>> I'm very interested to hear others perspectives.
>>
>> Best to all,
>>
>> David
>>
>>
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[OSList] A Question About Safety

2018-08-20 Thread David Osborne via OSList
Greetings all,

I have questions about safety related to self-organization I would love
others thoughts on.

Is it possible for an environment can be too safe to support
self-organization? Can safety be at such a high level that it inhibits or
slows down the self-organizing process?

I'm very interested to hear others perspectives.

Best to all,

David


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Re: [OSList] Research OST

2017-02-23 Thread David Osborne via OSList
Skye,

Your what it."*What if we are all ordering ourselves to feel more and
more whole coherence towards creating greatest coherence of the whole?" *
had an immediate resonates with me and makes intuitive sense.

David


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On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 6:29 PM, Skye Hirst <sk...@autognomics.org> wrote:

> Oh dear me, I'm jumping in.I wrote this poem today as I consider the
> living processes, one of which is self-ordering using an inherent value
> intelligence discovered by Robert S. Hartman years ago.
>
> So from this wide-angle lens on the subject of self-organization...   One
> needs a different kind of knowing beyond words and numbers as measurement,
> I suggest,  we need go beyond the observing of parts and  "things"  or
> arti-facts.  How do we see process?   it's more a coherence knowing by
> which we sense our self-organizing way, an infinitely complex process,  i
> suspect, but   I offer for your consideringWhat if we are all ordering
> ourselves to feel more and more whole coherence towards creating greatest
> coherence of the whole? I'm way out here,  but I do welcome company in the
> exploration.
>
> Can you see Living Process?
>
> “Sensing it” might be more accurately the pointer
>
> What happened when you were 3 years old,
>
> Can stay an awareness “sign” till woman grown
>
> An act by other can infect you
>
> As you remember smells and feelings
>
> In your body-knowing of good, or ill.
>
> Such senses shape in you,
>
> You decide,
>
>  This works, that doesn’t,
>
> You come to value or disvalue one “kind” of person, more than another
>
> The ways, the acts of tenderness, or disregard
>
> A relating relationship becomes habit by repeated choosing
>
> Because “effective” in some living way
>
> You feel excitement, anticipation for such again,
>
> Or dread, it might be repeated, take note to avoid.
>
> A mindful moment can reveal
>
> Such kaleidoscope realities
>
> Woven throughout your living acts and actions
>
>  Informing little girl continuously till woman grown
>
> Contrasts butt up against one another
>
> These living acts, with results, and consequences,
>
> Require evaluating, comparing qualities you name “good”
>
> Choosing again and again
>
> What works, what doesn’t
>
> Seeing, sensing living, becoming, evolving, emerging
>
> Nothing fixed in relations of relating,
>
> These acts and their results
>
> Keep creating in you
>
> A felt-sensing reality view,
>
> Moment on moment
>
> Forming functions of how to live
>
> In this moment and the next.
>
> Choosing acts of good, or ill
>
> Or some measure in between
>
> This is good, less good or bad,
>
> Repeat or stop
>
> Like soup in the making
>
> You keep adding, referencing,
>
> Sensing your way
>
>  All acts, all relations of relations,
>
> Seeking
>
> A wholeness knowing,
>
> A "never-will-be-againness."
>
> Wondering at it all,
>
> Or not,
>
> Or some measure in-between.
>
> Do you “sense” what I mean?
>
>
>
>
>
> Skye Hirst,  2/23/17
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 5:21 PM, David Osborne via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>> I find the concept of researching self-organization in human systems to
>> prove that it happens intriguing and I have no idea how one would approach
>> it since it's all self-organizing and I'm not sure the human perspective of
>> working / not working etc applies.
>>
>> As I first read one off the posts I thought it's kind of like proving
>> fire isthen I realized hey.there is a combustion point ...things
>> that accelerate of diminish fires...ways to start them etc etc.
>>
>> I think a second part of the challenge is that self-organizing is like
>> gravity or electro magnetics in that it is invisible and we don't have a
>> way of measuring it that I know of.
>>
>> These are my rambling musings and I'm interested in others perspectives.
>>
>> Best to all,
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>> *David R. Osborne*
>> Organization and Leadership Development
>>
>> 6402 Arlington Blvd., Suite 1120, Falls Church, VA 22042
>> 703-939-1777 <(703)%20939-1777>   |   dosbo...@change-fusion.com
>> <cbell...@change-fusion.com>   |   change-fusion.com
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 4:36 PM, Royle

Re: [OSList] Nominations for Next Host - WOSonOS 2017

2016-11-12 Thread David Osborne via OSList
I've never been to a WOSONOS and I love your description of your Tainan I 
hope to make next year my first.

Hope all are having a glorious weekend.

David

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 12, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Carmela Ariza via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Wow, I am truly excited - Ishould Taiwan be finally selected as the next 
> WOSONOS host-country.
> 
> Looking forward Jane, Gail and Dick...
> 
> love
> 
> Carms
>  
> True happiness is a state of mind.
> Happiness is not a consequence of things that happen. 
> Do not pursue happiness - practice it. 
> Sing, even if you do not sound good. 
> Smile, even when things go wrong. 
> Create happiness, and happy you will be.
> 
> 
> From: Jane Lewis via OSList 
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list 
>  
> Sent: Saturday, 12 November 2016, 20:47
> Subject: [OSList] Nominations for Next Host - WOSonOS 2017
> 
> 
> Just yesterday Carms asked the world (the OSList and all of us here in 
> Manila) who might be interested in hosting 2017's WOSonOS.
> 
> Today at breakfast, people started asking me about my connections in Hawaii 
> (I'm a resident there, though I live in south Taiwan), in reference to a 
> potential location for next year.
> 
> Then, in the closing circle it hit me. One of my motivations, after all, for 
> coming to this meeting was to locate my own way to stimulate organic 
> cross-fertilizing conversations in my city. During these 2.5 days in Manila, 
> instead, I'd focused on other types of conversations. 
> 
> Maybe it's time to bring this topic to life in a big way.
> 
> After the closing circle, and on through a group dinner tonight, I went 
> around to share this idea of Tainan being offered as next years location, and 
> all around I got "Yes!" and "I'll be there, what help do you need?" So, by 
> the evening of the closing of WOSonOS 2016 I, along with Sharon Wu are ready 
> to make a nomination.
> 
> We nominate Tainan, in the south of Taiwan as the location for the 2017 
> WOSonOS.
> 
> It's Taiwan's oldest city, a beautiful highly hospitable tropical city full 
> of Japanese era buildings, thousands of temples and temple events, little 
> winding alleys and all manner of street food. It's Taiwan's holiday 
> destination by the ocean, and a welcoming destination for everyone in 2017.  
> 
> Looking forward to the ensuing discussion!
> With respect and excitement,
> 
> Jane Lewis & Sharon Wu 
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Re: [OSList] Safety

2016-09-21 Thread David Osborne via OSList
Harrison

.and I suspect the *genuine invitation* to be yourself, follow your
passion, take responsibility.coupled with a *genuinely psychologically
safe place* for it to happenadds significantly to all the amazing
things that follow. As you know even the invitation versus "you must show
up" creates autonomy, choice and safety.

Thoughts along the waySafety matters.

David


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On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 5:15 PM, Harrison Owen via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Harold – having  worked with a number of wonderful people all over the
> world who were not in anything that anybody might consider a “safe space”
> (people kept dying/killed) – the promise of safety would be a little off
> the wall. The only promise was … Be yourselves, follow your passion and
> take responsibility. Amazing things can happen. And they did and do!
>
>
>
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> *From:* OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Harold Shinsato via OSList
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 21, 2016 4:41 PM
> *To:* oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Safety
>
>
>
> Wow - thank you Peggy and Birgitt - very valuable.
>
> I'm curious about two things. What is the difference between focus on
> welcoming, and a focus on safety - and how can the sponsor help make the
> space welcoming?
>
> The second - the reason safety has become much more important to me is the
> story of the Aluminum Company of America as told in the book "The Power of
> Habit", the company was turned around by making safety the priority. The
> CEO said, "If you want to understand how Alcoa is doing, you need to look
> at our workplace safety figures." He was saying that profits were less an
> indication of the health and future prospects of the company than safety.
> And as a result, the end result was much more profits as well as growth.
>
> One of the pioneers of Agile Software development, Joshua Kerievsky, made
> this one of the four pillars of "Modern Agile". You can look that up, but
> part of what it says is "Make Safety a Prerequisite: Safety is both a basic
> human need and a key to unlocking high performance. We actively make safety
> a prerequisite by establishing safety before engaging in any hazardous
> work."
>
> I notice some of the prior OSList posts about safety was that Open Space
> helped grow safety. But it's probably not helpful to "make safety a
> prerequisite" before convening an open space event. But perhaps that's
> really just a given. An unstated prerequisite of any welcoming invitation.
> Will you help me resolve my discomfort around letting this question go?
>
> Thanks!
> Harold
>
> On 9/21/16 11:40 AM, Birgitt Williams via OSList wrote:
>
> Hi Harold,
>
> I believe that the greatest issues about safety come about when a
> facilitator attempts to reassure people that 'this is safe space'. We can
> never know if the space for conversations is actually safe, despite the
> safeguards built in by the four principles and the one law of OST. Those
> who choose to enact their leadership into the unknown, taking risks, being
> vulnerable, will do somaybe now, maybe at a subsequent meeting. Those
> who for whatever reason need to hold back will do so.
>
>
>
> Even to assure people that they have some responsibility for safety in
> themselves assumes too much. People take risks, they may know or not know
> the consequences that might come about, the collateral damage that might
> ensue. People cannot be responsible for even personal safety as it is not
> within their control.
>
>
>
> And so I agree with what Peggy has offered as an alternative. The concept
> of welcoming space. This takes me to my concept that the facilitator
> doesn't open the welcoming space for the meetingit must be the sponsor
> who does so.
>
>
>
> Great question Harold!
>
> Birgitt
>
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 2:32 PM Peggy Holman via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> Great question Harold! I always wince when people say the space needs to
> be safe. If you make space so safe that it leaves the opportunity for
> messiness out, nothing happens. Sometimes I’ve said "safe enough”.
> Ultimately, as you said, a sense of safety comes from within.
>
>
>
> Rather than safety, I have come to focus on welcoming space. (With a nod
> to Juanita Brown, who helped me to understand the value of welcoming.) A
> spirit of welcome creates conditions for who and what shows up. And if you
> start cultivating a culture of welcome, then there’s room for all 

Re: [OSList] University training for Open Space Technology?

2016-08-25 Thread David Osborne via OSList
OK Harrison.now I can't resist.

What do you think some of the key insights that would come from learning to
live in a self organizing world?  AKA Harrison's top ten principles for
living in a self organizing world?

Hope you're having  a great summer in Maine and look forward to your
thoughts.

David


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On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 4:04 PM, Harrison Owen via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Kári… I really shouldn’t do this… I am sure the Devil made me do this… But
> I just can’t help myself….
>
>
>
> I can’t tell you how many times people have said to me something like –
> Well if OS is really as simple as you say, how can you possibly have a
> (1,2,3) day training program?? There is an answer, but not a simple one.
> Now…. You are pushing this to a whole new level… a whole degree program?
> You have to be kidding!
>
>
>
> I think it really could be worthwhile IF the program was NOT about
> facilitating Open Space – which can be done in a few minutes or less.
> Actually, I find that most of the time required goes to unlearning just
> about everything you ever learned about “facilitating.”
>
>
>
> The heart of the program could be (should be / my opinion) about learning
> to live (helping others learn) in a self organizing world. Lots of
> thinking. Lots new experiences – and definitely worth a year or so. A life
> time will do, barely. That could be fun and really beneficial!
>
>
>
> Harrison
>
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>
>
>
> *From:* OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf
> Of *l33t...@gmail.com via OSList
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2016 1:27 PM
> *To:* OSLIST
> *Subject:* [OSList] University training for Open Space Technology?
>
>
>
> There is an opportunity, an opening, an invitation to make something
> wonderful.
>
> What would a Master level University accredited training for Open Space
> Technology look like?
>
>
>
> I posted a session in the last NOSONOS in Sweden at Två Skyttlar with the
> title "10 ECTS" representing some 300 hours worth of training and studies
> on the topic.
>
> An idea was born in the session, and many signed up for it, that we should
> make a mentor program for the facilitation students in a course where they
> would do find their own sponsors and a theme, organize with the sponsors to
> invite to the event and document the proceedings, the student would
> facilitate the event and later review with the sponsors post-event.
> Naturally some compensation would be paid by the university to mentor for
> coaching the student with his first sponsored facilitation event in the
> program.
>
> The second idea was to invite other universities in the European Higher
> Education Area and possibly other places to co-create a full program of one
> years worth Masters diploma including the global mentor program and the
> many professional trainings that are happening all over. many universities
> where named, and it is exiting.
>
>
>
> This is an invitation to contact me or to reply with ideas or next steps
> or connection and suggestions.
>
>
>
> Best greetings
>
>
>
> Kári Gunnarsson
>
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Re: [OSList] Open Space: a Practice of Peace (long)

2016-02-04 Thread David Osborne via OSList
I'm interested Brendan.

David :)

On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Brendan McKeague via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Dear friends on the List - and beyond...
>
> I have recently been stirred by memories, current events and
> conversations.
>
> The recent passing of one of our Open Space Elders, Florian Fischer, my
> memories of Fr Brian Bainbridge (moved between spaces on Feb 2, 2012),
> birthday celebrations of Harrison, many ongoing acts of terror around our
> planet, community concerns about displaced people, refugees and asylum
> seekers, and a recent poem on this List (thanks Lucas), have prompted me to
> release an invitation to conversation.
>
> It always starts like this.
>
> It always starts with someone like you.
>
>
> And you've got your idea.
>
> And you're wondering what to do next.
>
>
> This is the way it happens.
>
>
> -Anonymous, 2016
>
>
>
> I have a story to share (not that unusual for an Irishman)
>
> I have passion for Open Space
>
> I have passion for Peace
>
> I have passion for Nonviolent Conflict Transformation
>
> I have passion for OPEN SPACE as a PRACTICE OF PEACE
>
>
> In 2003, Harrison wrote The Practice of Peace which was published by the
> existing OS Institutes in various places and later by the Human Systems
> Dynamics Institute (2004). This book was, and continues to be, a rich
> source of sustenance for my soul (
> http://openspaceworld.org/wp2/explore/books-videos/ )
>
> In 2003, there was a Practice of Peace Conference at The Whidbey Institute
> on Whidbey Island, Washington and another one two years later in
> Albuquerque, New Mexico (2005).
>
> I found a link here:
> http://practiceofpeace.com/pub_home.html
>
>
> I was unable to attend either of these although I was deeply inspired from
> afar by the stories emerging. I have continued to be inspired for over a
> decade by the stories of those who create space for peace in war-torn
> landscapes and conflict-crushed countries.
>
> Last year, I was privileged to visit the Western Cape region of South
> Africa working with colleagues on 'the spirituality and practice of active
> nonviolence'. We used a collaborative learning model, designed on the
> principles of Open Space, to engage and utilise the collective wisdom of
> those who joined us for a five-day program. Participants particularly loved
> being part of the OST meeting towards the end of our time together to
> co-create actions for the future. This experience confirmed my deep longing
> and commitment to encourage the use of OST as a peace-making practice.
>
>
> I would like to issue an invitation to conversation:
>
> to explore the creation of an 'Open Space Practice of Peace' gathering
> somewhere on our planet in 2016-17 (or whenever the time is right).
>
>
> My dream is to be part of a gathering of people who have used, are
> currently using, or would dearly love to use Open Space in powerful,
> conflict-energised situations.
>
>
> Please let me know if you are interested and I will convene a skype
> conversation (or something else) in the coming weeks to start the
> exploration.
>
> Cheers
> Brendan
>
> from an ever-warming Western Australia
>
>
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Re: [OSList] Inviting non-invitation

2015-09-01 Thread David Osborne via OSList
Building on the constraints conversation.Another lens I look at this same
dynamic through is control. When leaders are establishing constraints they
are often doing so to try to control the situation or outcome. When control
is to tight it inhibits the innovation and emergence that can flow form
self-organization. Similarly no boundaries can leave a system to loose for
self-organization to coalesce around emerging innovation and so cohesion is
less likely.

My thoughts along the way.

Enjoying the conversation.

David

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Harrison via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Here’s a thought... Space/time is infinite, defined by our minds, and
> limited by our imagination. So “constraints” are only what you make them
> out to be. AND... it is always nice to have as much “space/time” as
> possible. A “genuine invitation” creates a LOT of space/time.
>
>
>
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> Of *Michael Herman via OSList
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 01, 2015 1:15 PM
> *To:* Chris Corrigan; World wide Open Space Technology email list
> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Inviting non-invitation
>
>
>
> People who write sonnets accept constraints.  monks and nuns accept
> constraints.  Musicians accept constraints.  Athletes accept constraints.
> People who live on islands accept constraints.  The idea here is that in
> accepting sometimes extremely limiting constraints, you are forced to go
> deeper in your work.  AS a manager if you also offer invitations into a
> constrained space, you may indeed create the conditions for some amazing
> things to happen.  “You have $3000 to work with on your prototype, but you
> have to work with two other people and get it done in two days.  Do you
> accept this invitation?  OK! Go!”
>
>
>
> yes!  and there is the chance to notice that there can be a difference
> between a manager imposing random constraints versus clearly articulating
> and/or translating the constraints that ARE already existing in the
> environment.  there is also the possibility for managers to overreact in
> the transmitting of environment to system, to editorialize and use outside
> forces as excuses for imposing constraints.  people can opt in to
> constraints that are randomly or otherwise badly articulated, but i think
> the ideal to strive for is the very cleanest transmission of the bigger
> picture environmental constraints.  the practice of invitation is a kind of
> search for truth(s) about what is.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Michael Herman
> Michael Herman Associates
> http://MichaelHerman.com
> http://OpenSpaceWorld.org
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> My pithy statement about how self-organization works was not meant to be a
> tossed off reduction, but rather it has important consequences for managing.
>
>
>
> Enabling constraints can indeed be very rigid.  And in accepting the
> invitation to step into that container, one can make a conscious choice to
> confront the stress and see what comes of it.  Deadlines, limited
> resources, restrictive mandates, policies and procedures are all
> constraints that are “forced’ upon people at work.  As a manager you can
> always frame these as an invitation: “your mission, should you choose to
> accept it, is…”  As a participant you can choose to accept it. Or not.
>
>
>
> People who write sonnets accept constraints.  monks and nuns accept
> constraints.  Musicians accept constraints.  Athletes accept constraints.
> People who live on islands accept constraints.  The idea here is that in
> accepting sometimes extremely limiting constraints, you are forced to go
> deeper in your work.  AS a manager if you also offer invitations into a
> constrained space, you may indeed create the conditions for some amazing
> things to happen.  “You have $3000 to work with on your prototype, but you
> have to work with two other people and get it done in two days.  Do you
> accept this invitation?  OK! Go!”
>
>
>
> The truly magnificent Open Space gatherings I have been a part of in my
> life have had a clear set of constraints (sometimes rigid and narrow,
> sometimes broad but still defined, as in “we are talking about anything you
> want, but if if you want to stop doing social services and start building
> Volvos, that isn’t going to make it into the plan…”) and a clear
> invitation.  Good invitations are both attractors AND boundaries.  They
> require intention to accept them; 

Re: [OSList] Inviting non-invitation

2015-08-31 Thread David Osborne via OSList
Chris...

That's a pretty awesome summary !!!

David

On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 7:05 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Self organization works by a combination of attractors and boundaries.
> Attractors are things that draw components of a system towards themselves
> (gravity wells, a pile of money left on the ground, an invitation).
> Boundaries (or constraints) are barriers that constrain the elements in a
> system (an atmosphere, the edges of an island, the number of syllables in a
> haiku)
>
> Working together, attractors and boundaries define order where otherwise
> there is chaos. We can be intentional about some of these, but not all of
> them. Within complex systems, attractors and constraints create the
> conditions to enable emergence.  What emerges isn’t always desirable and is
> never predictable, but it has the property of being new and different from
> any of the individual elements within the system.
>
> Self-organization is where we get new, previously unknown things from.
> Open Space is a beautiful way of working with these dynamics within the
> container of strategic work in organizations and communities.
>
> That’s about the shortest summary I can undertake about this stuff.  :-)
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> On Aug 31, 2015, at 1:40 PM, Daniel Mezick via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> "Is it accurate to say that some self organizing happens by invitation and
> some happens by coercion/force? "
>
>
> Great question Lucas!
>
>
> The [invitation] wall-poster you suggest feels wall-worthy to me, so long
> as no one is obligated to examine it... or even look at it.
>
>
> My turn to ask a question: What might a world "void of manipulation" and
> "replete with invitation" actually look like?
>
>
> Daniel
>
>
>
> On 8/31/15 9:57 AM, Lucas Cioffi via OSList wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Is it accurate to say that some self organizing happens by invitation and
> some happens by coercion/force?
>
> For example, from the perspective of someone who lives outside of Iraq,
> the way the Ba'ath Party took charge of Iraq through a coup seems like an
> example of self-organizing by force to us, because we're outside the system
> of Iraq.  I welcome some thoughts on this.
>
> Over the past few months (and working with Michael Herman for VOSonOS)
> I've seen that the spirit of invitation shouldn't end with the writing of
> the invitation, and instead it should be present throughout the open
> space.  When someone posts a topic on the marketplace wall, they are
> inviting others to a conversation, not taking over a time slot (like having
> a coup and taking over a small country).
>
> When someone wants to be a "dictator" of their open space session, yes
> others can use their two feet and walk out, but that comes at a cost to the
> social fabric of the organization.  A better outcome would be that the
> would-be dictator holds a welcoming space from the start.  So I'd recommend
> that another sign worth posting on the wall near "Law of Two Feet" would be
> "Spirit of Invitation".  I think it's wall-worthy, do you?
>
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> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 5:07 AM, Paul Levy via OSList <
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>> I think the clue lies in the wonderful word "self".
>>
>> We are the selves that organise.
>>
>> Beautiful.
>>
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Re: [OSList] Fall Reflections

2015-08-30 Thread David Osborne via OSList
Amen love it too.

David

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 30, 2015, at 3:16 PM, Harrison via OSList 
 oslist@lists.openspacetech.org wrote:
 
 There comes a moment here in Maine when the season turns. It is not a gentle, 
 creep up on you quietly, sort of thing. It is an all at once, very suddenly, 
 kind of thing. There is a change in the light, a different smell on the wind, 
 a chill on the air. Fall. It’s here. Ending. Beginning. Now.
  
 A time of reflections.
  
 It has taken me a lifetime of living. But. I have learned two things, or 
 maybe better, come to two conclusions. 1) All Systems are open. 2) All 
 systems are self organizing.
  
 All Systems are Open is a complicated way of saying that everything is 
 connected, including all the things that aren’t really a “thing,” which we 
 don’t even know about. The net result is an infinite complexity which is 
 completely unthinkable. And what you can’t think, you surely can’t control. 
 So much for THAT vain hope.
  
 All Systems are self Organizing -- I know of no way of actually proving this 
 one, but it does seem a natural concomitant of the first conclusion. If you 
 find yourself in an infinitely complex and interconnected environment, where 
 nobody is, or can be, in control, such systems as are there, must have pretty 
 well gotten themselves together all by themselves. Of course there are a 
 number of people who are sure that God did it, and personally I don’t have 
 any real problem with that. But ascribing it all to divine agency doesn’t 
 help us very much. We still don’t have much control and the systems around 
 us, including those we think we organized, have a source other than our 
 selves. 
  
 Life under the conditions described above (Open, Self Organizing Systems) can 
 seem a little peculiar to some people, but it is not so much irrational as 
 different. Certain “strange” things always seem to happen. For example, 
 Whoever comes are the right people, whatever happens is the only thing that 
 could have, wherever it happens is the right place, whenever it happens is 
 the right time, and when it is over it is over. Always works out  that way, 
 so I’ve found.
  
 All this appears conducive to a very passive existence. Not much for us to 
 do. And the truth of the matter is that doing less always seems to accomplish 
 a great deal more. That said, there is one thing that we really have to do. 
 Follow the Law of Two Feet! Strange sort of law which says – If ever you find 
 yourself in a situation in which you are neither learning or contributing, 
 you must move your two feet until you find yourself a new place where you can 
 do the one, the other, or preferably, both. In a few words: Follow your 
 passion and take responsibility for it.
  
 It took 80 years. Fun!
  
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[OSList] Trusting the Process

2014-11-17 Thread David Osborne via OSList
Harrison and all,

I couldn't help but think of you as I read the latest blogpost below on
trusting the process and riding the wave of what is emerging. The blog
itself is from a dear friend and mentor of mine Charles Bower. He is in the
final stages of ALS. He has been blogging about his experience of dying for
the past two years since his diagnosis. I found this particular post
profound I pasted the entry here and the link to Charles Blog is below.

Charles Bower - Blow Post

From an early age I always loved the words if you want to have a friend
you have to be a friend.   Then one day while sitting with a friend and in
a moment of awareness these words came alive.  They were no longer just
words and I felt for the first time their deeper meaning.

Perhaps the three most important words which had a huge impact on my life,
I first heard at Shalom 1984 - Trust the Process.   When I heard this
saying, my initial response was, of course, it is important to trust what
is going on right now.  This is the process unfolding and I must trust what
is.  I tried to live and practice these words and quickly discovered that
trusting in the process was not particularly difficult, especially when
things were going my way.  I found them comforting when something that I
was trying to influence came to fruition.  I could smile and say yes -
trust the process it works.  It quickly became clear that trusting in the
process was much more difficult - sometimes impossible - if it wasn't going
according to the plan.  If the process wasn't unfolding in the way I felt
it should, I would sometimes becoming a victim, wishing that what was
happening would be something different.  The process is the process -
what's happening is what's happening - this is reality.  I came to believe
and consciously try to practice being in the now and at this time of
transition, I find these words very comforting.

Trusting the process doesn't mean giving in but giving up to what is.
Trust the process means instead of trying to make what I want to happen, I
become more aware of what is actually going on - what is trying to emerge,
come to life and energize that.  When I am trusting the process, I feel the
flow of energy and ride that wave trying not to resist going with the
flow.  Trusting the process I believe is an inside job where the intuitive
is often the guiding force. Trusting the process can bring a calmness no
matter what's going on and most often the best decisions in life are made
in this state.  Trusting the process requires faith.  So here I am, my life
quickly winding down and I wonder where I will get the strength for what is
coming?  The process of my body's disintegration is by its nature
intimidating - it is an ongoing feeling of helplessness, of becoming
useless, and there is no doubt the departure from life is a daunting
experience. However, I'm committed to trusting what is and what will be.
Perhaps another way to practice trust the process is show up, be
present,tell your truth and be unattached to the outcome.
The final role in my movie is to die with dignity, consciously, my mind at
peace, overflowing with gratitude for having experienced this life.  Trust
the process is an act of courage and faith knowing that the universe is
unfolding as it should.  I remind myself regularly that 1 million people
die every week - it's just my turn.

Do you trust the process or do you normally resist?  Disappointed, anger,
annoyance or apathetic can be indicators of resistance.  I would encourage
you to ride the wave, give in to what is trying to emerge. Perhaps the old
beliefs have had their day.  Trust the process - you might be amazed at
what is about to be born.

*Faith is to believe what you do not see; the reward of this faith is to
see what you believe. *- Saint Augustine

Charles Bower - OneDayatATime

http://iamlivingthegift.blogspot.com/2014/11/trust-process-november-17-2014.html

I hope you found it valuable.

David

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[OSList] Trusting the Process

2014-11-17 Thread David Osborne via OSList
Harrison and all,

I couldn't help but think of you as I read the latest blogpost below on
trusting the process and riding the wave of what is emerging. The blog
itself is from a dear friend and mentor of mine Charles Bower. He is in the
final stages of ALS. He has been blogging about his experience of dying for
the past two years since his diagnosis. I found this particular post
profound I pasted the entry here and the link to Charles Blog is below.

Charles Bower - Blow Post

From an early age I always loved the words if you want to have a friend
you have to be a friend.   Then one day while sitting with a friend and in
a moment of awareness these words came alive.  They were no longer just
words and I felt for the first time their deeper meaning.

Perhaps the three most important words which had a huge impact on my life,
I first heard at Shalom 1984 - Trust the Process.   When I heard this
saying, my initial response was, of course, it is important to trust what
is going on right now.  This is the process unfolding and I must trust what
is.  I tried to live and practice these words and quickly discovered that
trusting in the process was not particularly difficult, especially when
things were going my way.  I found them comforting when something that I
was trying to influence came to fruition.  I could smile and say yes -
trust the process it works.  It quickly became clear that trusting in the
process was much more difficult - sometimes impossible - if it wasn't going
according to the plan.  If the process wasn't unfolding in the way I felt
it should, I would sometimes becoming a victim, wishing that what was
happening would be something different.  The process is the process -
what's happening is what's happening - this is reality.  I came to believe
and consciously try to practice being in the now and at this time of
transition, I find these words very comforting.

Trusting the process doesn't mean giving in but giving up to what is.
Trust the process means instead of trying to make what I want to happen, I
become more aware of what is actually going on - what is trying to emerge,
come to life and energize that.  When I am trusting the process, I feel the
flow of energy and ride that wave trying not to resist going with the
flow.  Trusting the process I believe is an inside job where the intuitive
is often the guiding force. Trusting the process can bring a calmness no
matter what's going on and most often the best decisions in life are made
in this state.  Trusting the process requires faith.  So here I am, my life
quickly winding down and I wonder where I will get the strength for what is
coming?  The process of my body's disintegration is by its nature
intimidating - it is an ongoing feeling of helplessness, of becoming
useless, and there is no doubt the departure from life is a daunting
experience. However, I'm committed to trusting what is and what will be.
Perhaps another way to practice trust the process is show up, be
present,tell your truth and be unattached to the outcome.
The final role in my movie is to die with dignity, consciously, my mind at
peace, overflowing with gratitude for having experienced this life.  Trust
the process is an act of courage and faith knowing that the universe is
unfolding as it should.  I remind myself regularly that 1 million people
die every week - it's just my turn.

Do you trust the process or do you normally resist?  Disappointed, anger,
annoyance or apathetic can be indicators of resistance.  I would encourage
you to ride the wave, give in to what is trying to emerge. Perhaps the old
beliefs have had their day.  Trust the process - you might be amazed at
what is about to be born.

*Faith is to believe what you do not see; the reward of this faith is to
see what you believe. *- Saint Augustine

Charles Bower - OneDayatATime

http://iamlivingthegift.blogspot.com/2014/11/trust-process-november-17-2014.html

I hope you found it valuable.

David

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[OSList] Trusting the Process

2014-11-17 Thread David Osborne via OSList
Harrison and all,

I couldn't help but think of you as I read the latest blogpost below on
trusting the process and riding the wave of what is emerging. The blog
itself is from a dear friend and mentor of mine Charles Bower. He is in the
final stages of ALS. He has been blogging about his experience of dying for
the past two years since his diagnosis. I found this particular post
profound I pasted the entry here and the link to Charles Blog is below.

Charles Bower - Blow Post

From an early age I always loved the words if you want to have a friend
you have to be a friend.   Then one day while sitting with a friend and in
a moment of awareness these words came alive.  They were no longer just
words and I felt for the first time their deeper meaning.

Perhaps the three most important words which had a huge impact on my life,
I first heard at Shalom 1984 - Trust the Process.   When I heard this
saying, my initial response was, of course, it is important to trust what
is going on right now.  This is the process unfolding and I must trust what
is.  I tried to live and practice these words and quickly discovered that
trusting in the process was not particularly difficult, especially when
things were going my way.  I found them comforting when something that I
was trying to influence came to fruition.  I could smile and say yes -
trust the process it works.  It quickly became clear that trusting in the
process was much more difficult - sometimes impossible - if it wasn't going
according to the plan.  If the process wasn't unfolding in the way I felt
it should, I would sometimes becoming a victim, wishing that what was
happening would be something different.  The process is the process -
what's happening is what's happening - this is reality.  I came to believe
and consciously try to practice being in the now and at this time of
transition, I find these words very comforting.

Trusting the process doesn't mean giving in but giving up to what is.
Trust the process means instead of trying to make what I want to happen, I
become more aware of what is actually going on - what is trying to emerge,
come to life and energize that.  When I am trusting the process, I feel the
flow of energy and ride that wave trying not to resist going with the
flow.  Trusting the process I believe is an inside job where the intuitive
is often the guiding force. Trusting the process can bring a calmness no
matter what's going on and most often the best decisions in life are made
in this state.  Trusting the process requires faith.  So here I am, my life
quickly winding down and I wonder where I will get the strength for what is
coming?  The process of my body's disintegration is by its nature
intimidating - it is an ongoing feeling of helplessness, of becoming
useless, and there is no doubt the departure from life is a daunting
experience. However, I'm committed to trusting what is and what will be.
Perhaps another way to practice trust the process is show up, be
present,tell your truth and be unattached to the outcome.
The final role in my movie is to die with dignity, consciously, my mind at
peace, overflowing with gratitude for having experienced this life.  Trust
the process is an act of courage and faith knowing that the universe is
unfolding as it should.  I remind myself regularly that 1 million people
die every week - it's just my turn.

Do you trust the process or do you normally resist?  Disappointed, anger,
annoyance or apathetic can be indicators of resistance.  I would encourage
you to ride the wave, give in to what is trying to emerge. Perhaps the old
beliefs have had their day.  Trust the process - you might be amazed at
what is about to be born.

*Faith is to believe what you do not see; the reward of this faith is to
see what you believe. *- Saint Augustine

Charles Bower - OneDayatATime

http://iamlivingthegift.blogspot.com/2014/11/trust-process-november-17-2014.html

I hope you found it valuable.

David

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