Re: [OSList] The New Space Race?

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Thanks Peggy,
I associate the current realities to the first time we saw the image of our 
blue green orb hanging in space.  Our home.  Our Earth, there is only one of us 
in the solar system.  The image was passive and the threats etc did not 
immediately hit home.  Now we are all vulnerable, the whole world to an 
organism that kills.

The response is interesting to follow as well as lead.  As a family we have now 
celebrated a 40th and a 10th birthday, Easter Day had the whole family together 
reaching out to each other.   My Doctors and Specialists are using Skype, zoom 
etc to consult saving heaps of time and money.  We are exploring ways of 
conversing with each other as well as encouraging participation.  The last zoom 
meeting had over 460 participants and I heard every word and could ask 
questions via email it was like a personal interview with the Federal Minister 
for Health.

Now my family is adapting to school at home.  Very much a new learning 
environment.  My family have set up school spaces and really have adapted very 
quickly.  

As we try things to explore the chaos and develop responses in complexity I 
would rather learn than liable actions because of the newness and completeness 
of our responses.   Spiral Dynamics gives us some clues as to how the changes 
might develop as w again strive for that self organising, self actuating  
structure.   

It seems to me right now there are many bees and butterflies along with highly 
energised groups living out the Open Space principles.  How good is that!  



Regards
Rob

> On 17 Apr 2020, at 7:25 am, Peggy Holman via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> Thanks for opening this conversation. I’ve been thinking about something 
> similar, with a slightly different emphasis. I’ve been struck by how 
> frequently I’m hearing “we’re all in this together”. So I’ve been thinking 
> about how it is a time of both personal responsibility AND a sense of the 
> greater good that has never existed in my lifetime. (We’re about the same 
> age.) Even talk of sacrifice. Something I recall my parents talking about 
> from their youth in World War 2.
> 
> Something that has intersected this mulling has been watching the amazing 
> amount of constructive journalism happening right now. Practical, responsive, 
> listening to the questions from the public. And, of course, the generosity of 
> people self-organizing to help others.
> 
> One last element in my thinking about this: "tend and befriend" rather than 
> "fight or flight.” In brief, in 2000, a woman psychologist looked at the 
> research that led to coining the phrase fight or flight to characterize human 
> response to threat or stress. Turns out, like much of that early social 
> science research, it was done primarily with men. The psychologist, Shelley 
> Taylor, working with a team of women, found women tended to respond 
> differently. They took care of the vulnerable and worked together.
> 
> With nowhere to run, I see much of the response to Coronavirus following the 
> pattern of tend and befriend. It’s a trend I’d sure like to see made 
> conscious and furthered. I wrote a 2-minute piece about it: 
> https://medium.com/@PeggyHolman/journalism-that-tends-and-befriends-in-the-time-of-coronavirus-1ec800ccf9ad.
> 
> I think fighting and fleeing less and tending and befriending more 
> encompasses both personal responsibility and the common good.
> 
> Be well and stay sane,
> Peggy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Peggy Holman
> Co-founder
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> Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into Opportunity
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> 
>> On Apr 16, 2020, at 12:40 PM, Michael Herman via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all, 
>> 
>> I had a thought recently that might be interesting here, and that maybe you 
>> can add on to, as a story and conversation here.  And then in the world.  
>> This overlaps with some other recent threads, too, I think.  
>> 
>> As background, I'm exactly old enough that the moon landing is, as best I 
>> can tell, my oldest memory.  I've seen pictures of stuff that happened 
>> before, but I clearly remember the space toys being given away at gas 
>> stations, our family buying our first color TV, and (just like now) keeping 
>> our distance... in that case we were supposed to stay six feet from the new 
>> set.  
>> 
>> From that global moment came all kinds of "big blue marble" photos, Bucky 
>> Fuller's "Spaceship Earth," and other images.  Now we had a picture of "all 
>> in this together" where "all" really was every human.  And then, a few 
>> decades later, we've created a global network, a global economy, and global 
>> epidemics.  Not everyone made a direct, conscious connection about those 
>> images from space, but somehow we all grew up 

Re: [OSList] Our son on his way home from Nepal

[R Chaffe via OSList]

How good can it be to have your family at home .  Let’s hope that the gifts of 
the Easter time reach out to all who are stranded away from home.  Particularly 
those on the many cruise ships and similar situations.

Regards
Rob

> On 8 Apr 2020, at 11:19 pm, paul levy via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Splendid news!
> 
>> On Wed, 8 Apr 2020, 08:01 Thomas Herrmann via OSList, 
>>  wrote:
>> Just want to let you know that our son Anton has a seat on a plane from 
>> Kathmandu to München today and then he will travel onwards to Sweden by 
>> train and boat. I reached out a few weeks ago on this list. I will send a 
>> note when he is in our home, planned by Friday morning our time
>> 
>> My deepest appreciation for all who have supported us in different ways. We 
>> are blessed being part of this international family and happy!
>> 
>> With love
>> 
>> Thomas and Mia
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thomas Herrmann
>> 
>> Open Space Consulting AB
>> 
>> Pensévägen 4, 434 46 Kungsbacka, Sweden
>> 
>> Telefon: +46 (0)709 98 97 81
>> 
>> Email: tho...@openspaceconsulting.com
>> 
>> Homepage: www.openspaceconsulting.com
>> 
>> Profile on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/thomasherrmannopenspaceconsult
>> 
>> Company page on Facebook: www.facebook.com/OpenSpaceConsulting
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Expert på ONLINE facilitering. Läs om våra erbjudande just nu: 
>> www.openspaceconsulting.com
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Open Space Consulting frigör livskraft i människor, organisationer och 
>> samhälle.
>> 
>> We release lifepower in people, organizations and society.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Medskapande är hör för att stanna – dags att vässa er förmåga?
>> 
>> Co-creation is here to stay – time to sharpen your skills?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Trainings/workshops 2020
>> 
>> April 2ggr/vecka. Onlinemöten som fungerar (2 timmar praktisk kurs)
>> 
>> April--. Vi erbjuder kontinuerliga starter på onlineutbildningar kring 
>> ledarskap 5toFold beslutsmetod och facilitering.
>> 
>> June 7-11 Från vanespår till integration – den glömda kreativiteten. Öland, 
>> Sweden
>>   (From old habits to integration – the hidden creativity)
>> 
>> Sept 1-3 Working with Open Space Technology – Netherlands (also offered 
>> cont. online)
>> 
>> Sept 4-5 Genuine Contact Mentoring circle, Amsterdam Netherlands
>> 
>> Okt 8 Online Erfa-utbyte och lärande om Open Space-metoden (gratis)
>> 
>> Oct 25-27 Working with Whole Person Process Facilitation – Berlin, Germany 
>> (also offered cont. Online)
>> 
>> Dec 9-11 Att arbeta hållbart med Open Space-metoden – Kinna, Sverige
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Trainings/workshops 2021
>> 
>> Febr 2-5 Genuine Contact Organization – Netherlands
>> 
>> Apr 12-16 Genuine Contact Train the Trainer - Netherlands
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> More info & registration: www.openspaceconsulting.com (Aktiviteter)
>> 
>> Or get in touch via email tho...@openspaceconsulting.com
>> 
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Re: [OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 107, Issue 12

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Trust the process.  Please  you found what is needed. Let’s get through this 
world crisis in the best of health by showing the way.

Regards
Rob

> On 22 Mar 2020, at 10:03 pm, Thomas Herrmann via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Dear friends in open space
> I am in awe. Of course I already knew the power and love in this community.I 
> thank you from the bottom of my heart for always being here.
> I have forwarded several of these solid loving contacts to my friend and it 
> will make a big difference for his son.
> Let’s continue supporting each and the world with our knowledge and love.
> Your grateful friend
> Thomas
> 
> Skickat från min iPhone
> 
>>> 22 mars 2020 kl. 10:42 skrev Gijs via OSList 
>>> :
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi Thomas 
>>  
>> I live in Malaysia, but in Kuala Lumpur. Your son may always call me.
>> I have a friend in Penang.
>> Malaysia is in serious lock-down which is being strongly policed.
>> Gijs van WezeL, MSc.
>> 
>> 
>> Supporting Personal Development and Team Collaborative Processes
>> 
>> www.gijsvanwezel.com 
>> 
>> +60-173719727Gijs van WezeL, MSc.
>> 
>> “Asking questions - rather then telling- is the best way of mentally 
>> engaging people".
>> 
>>  
>>  Original Message 
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>> Sent: Sat, 21 Mar 2020 13:25:52 -0700
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2020 17:15:19 +0100
>> From: "Thomas Herrmann" 
>> To: "'OSLIST '" 
>> Subject: [OSList] Contacts in Malaysia?
>> Message-ID: <000c01d5ff9b$ea652a90$bf2f7fb0$@openspaceconsulting.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> 
>> Dear friends in Open Space
>> 
>> One of my best friends has a son stuck in Penang, Malaysia. Looks like he
>> can?t get back to Sweden and it would feel good for them if he had someone
>> who could help him if he would need assistance. Please get in touch with me
>> if you know anyone in Penang or elsewhere in Malaysia. If so, please send me
>> an email to make this connection
>> 
>> My son is in Nepal but I found a family he can turn to if he would need
>> assistance.
>> 
>> All the best
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thomas Herrmann
>> 
>> Open Space Consulting AB
>> 
>> Pens?v?gen 4, 434 46 Kungsbacka, Sweden
>> 
>> Telefon: +46 (0)709 98 97 81
>> 
>> Email: tho...@openspaceconsulting.com
>> 
>> Homepage:  www.openspaceconsulting.com
>> 
>> 
>> Profile on LinkedIn:
>> 
>> www.linkedin.com/in/thomasherrmannopenspaceconsult 
>> 
>> Company page on Facebook: 
>> www.facebook.com/OpenSpaceConsulting 
>> 
>> Expert p? ONLINE facilitering. L?s om v?ra erbjudande just nu:
>> https://openspaceconsulting.com/vara-tjanster/distansmoten 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Open Space Consulting frig?r livskraft i m?nniskor, organisationer och
>> samh?lle.
>> 
>> We release lifepower in people, organizations and society.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Medskapande ?r h?r f?r att stanna ? dags att v?ssa er f?rm?ga? 
>> 
>> Co-creation is here to stay ? time to sharpen your skills?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Trainings/workshops 2020
>> 
>> Mars 19, 24, 26, 30, 31 Onlinem?ten som fungerar
>> 
>> March 25 5toFold Decision making (Online). Genuine Contact Speciality
>> workshops
>> 
>> April. Vi erbjuder kontinuerliga starter p? onlineutbildningar kring
>> ledarskap och facilitering.
>> 
>> April 2-3 Cross Cultural Conflict Resolution ? Online
>> 
>> June 7-11 Fr?n vanesp?r till integration ? den gl?mda kreativiteten. ?land,
>> Sweden
>> (From old habits to integration ? the hidden creativity)
>> 
>> Sept 1-3 Working with Open Space Technology - Netherlands
>> 
>> Sept 4-5 Genuine Contact Mentoring circle, Amsterdam Netherlands
>> 
>> Okt 8 Online Erfa-utbyte och l?rande om Open Space-metoden (gratis)
>> 
>> Oct 25-27 Working with Whole Person Process Facilitation ? Berlin, Germany
>> 
>> Dec 9-11 Att arbeta h?llbart med Open Space-metoden ? Kinna, Sverige
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Trainings/workshops 2021
>> 
>> Febr 2-5 Genuine Contact Organization ? Netherlands
>> 
>> Apr 12-16 Genuine Contact Train the Trainer - Netherlands
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> More info & 

Re: [OSList] Contacts in Malaysia?

[R Chaffe via OSList]

No contacts that could help.  Best wishes that he finds a way to get through 
this crisis as I am sure he is no alone.  To all families who are divided by 
current crisis my thoughts and prayers are with you all.   The underlying great 
goodness and peace of human kind has the power to sustain us, we will and we 
can deal with the current situation and beyond.

Rob

> On 22 Mar 2020, at 3:15 am, Thomas Herrmann via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Dear friends in Open Space
> One of my best friends has a son stuck in Penang, Malaysia. Looks like he 
> can’t get back to Sweden and it would feel good for them if he had someone 
> who could help him if he would need assistance. Please get in touch with me 
> if you know anyone in Penang or elsewhere in Malaysia. If so, please send me 
> an email to make this connection
> My son is in Nepal but I found a family he can turn to if he would need 
> assistance.
> All the best
>  
>  
> Thomas Herrmann
> Open Space Consulting AB
> Pensévägen 4, 434 46 Kungsbacka, Sweden
> Telefon: +46 (0)709 98 97 81
> Email: tho...@openspaceconsulting.com
> Homepage: www.openspaceconsulting.com
> Profile on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/thomasherrmannopenspaceconsult
> Company page on Facebook: www.facebook.com/OpenSpaceConsulting
> Expert på ONLINE facilitering. Läs om våra erbjudande just nu: 
> https://openspaceconsulting.com/vara-tjanster/distansmoten
>  
> Open Space Consulting frigör livskraft i människor, organisationer och 
> samhälle.
> We release lifepower in people, organizations and society.
>  
> Medskapande är hör för att stanna – dags att vässa er förmåga?
> Co-creation is here to stay – time to sharpen your skills?
>  
> Trainings/workshops 2020
> Mars 19, 24, 26, 30, 31 Onlinemöten som fungerar
> March 25 5toFold Decision making (Online). Genuine Contact Speciality 
> workshops
> April. Vi erbjuder kontinuerliga starter på onlineutbildningar kring 
> ledarskap och facilitering.
> April 2-3 Cross Cultural Conflict Resolution – Online
> June 7-11 Från vanespår till integration – den glömda kreativiteten. Öland, 
> Sweden
>   (From old habits to integration – the hidden creativity)
> Sept 1-3 Working with Open Space Technology - Netherlands
> Sept 4-5 Genuine Contact Mentoring circle, Amsterdam Netherlands
> Okt 8 Online Erfa-utbyte och lärande om Open Space-metoden (gratis)
> Oct 25-27 Working with Whole Person Process Facilitation – Berlin, Germany
> Dec 9-11 Att arbeta hållbart med Open Space-metoden – Kinna, Sverige
>  
> Trainings/workshops 2021
> Febr 2-5 Genuine Contact Organization – Netherlands
> Apr 12-16 Genuine Contact Train the Trainer - Netherlands
>  
> More info & registration: www.openspaceconsulting.com (Aktiviteter)
> Or get in touch via email tho...@openspaceconsulting.com
>  
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Re: [OSList] Corona Virus and Lime... How OST Can Help Energize the Solutions???? Complete the Caption

[R Chaffe via OSList]

OST energises solutions by Respect for process and the confidence that there is 
aways more than one way to make the best of issues and opportunities.

Regards
Rob

> On 18 Mar 2020, at 12:20 am, Mark Carmel via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> How are you?  I hope fine.  
> 
> Please complete the caption:
> 
> Herevis how Open Space Technology Can Energize Solutions to the Corona Virus:
> 
> 
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Re: [OSList] Job vacancy: Open Space Producer with Improbable (London, UK)

[R Chaffe via OSList]

So pleased HO that you put your name forward.  There is a need for insight and 
understanding is these areas, improvisation / adaption are crucial if we are to 
exploit the current reality to create sustainable enterprise.

Regards
Robert

> On 7 Mar 2020, at 7:32 am, Harrison Owen via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm a little old, but I'll apply. And please tell Phelim I said Hi!
> 
> Harrison
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Improbable Office via OSList 
> To: oslist 
> Cc: Improbable Office 
> Sent: Fri, Mar 6, 2020 12:50 pm
> Subject: [OSList] Job vacancy: Open Space Producer with Improbable (London, 
> UK)
> 
> Hi OSList,
> 
> Thought this might be of interest to some you - Improbable (improvisation-led 
> theatre company based in London, UK) is recruiting a part-time Open Space 
> Producer to join us from Spring 2020. Details below - more info, including 
> application instructions can be found on our website: 
> https://www.improbable.co.uk/jobs/. Deadline for applications is 11pm GMT, 
> Sun 29 March. Any questions, drop me Jeremy an email at 
> off...@improbable.co.uk.
> 
> – Overview–
> 
> Improbable is recruiting an Open Space Producer to join us from Spring 2020. 
> This is a central role within the company. Key responsibilities include:
> 
> - Shaping, planning and managing our Open Space events;
> - Nurturing relationships with partners;
> - Developing Improbable’s corporate Open Space for Hire offer;
> - Looking after the nationwide community of arts folk who engage with our 
> Devoted & Disgruntled programme.
> 
> – About Improbable –
> 
> Led by Phelim McDermott and Lee Simpson, Improbable is a theatre company that 
> defies categorisation. We create work on every scale from remarkable 
> productions in the great opera houses to tiny improvisation gigs in the 
> tiniest venues; we are at the forefront of arts activism through Open Space, 
> and create ground-breaking participation work; we help to hold the history of 
> improvisation, and to shape and secure its future through the International 
> Institute of Improvisation, the iii!.
> 
> At the heart of our work is the practice and philosophy of improvisation, and 
> all our work draws on improvisatory processes such as Open Space and 
> Worldwork. This is true even for the large-scale opera and music theatre 
> pieces that form the bulk of Improbable’s upcoming programme. We are a 
> company that follows our intuition.
> 
> Improbable was founded in 1996 as a limited liability partnership; became a 
> charity in 2014; and is a National Portfolio Organisation of Arts Council 
> England 2018-22.
> 
> – Purpose of the Open Space Producer Role –
> 
> The Open Space Producer is responsible for the shaping and delivery of 
> Improbable’s Open Space events. There are two main strands to this work: 
> Devoted & Disgruntled and Open Space for Hire.
> 
> 1.Devoted & Disgruntled (D) is an ongoing conversation about theatre 
> and the performing arts. Created in 2005, and facilitated using Open Space, 
> Devoted & Disgruntled brings together artists, audiences, funders, front of 
> house staff, puppeteers and production managers to work together on key 
> questions in theatre and the performing arts. The D programme comprises one 
> annual 2.5 day event and several smaller half-day events each year, and 
> operates across the country. Its website – devotedanddisgruntled.com – holds 
> an archive of past conversations, and a platform for ongoing discussion. D 
> is the largest gathering of independent artists and arts practitioners in the 
> UK.
> 
> 2. Open Space for Hire is what we call Improbable’s facilitation of Open 
> Space events for external organisations. Over the last few years, this has 
> grown to become an increasingly significant part of the charity’s work and of 
> our annual income, and has seen us facilitate events for arts, charitable, 
> governmental and commercial organisations. Recent Open Space clients include 
> Turner Contemporary, Southbank Centre, the Wellcome Trust, the Academy of 
> Medical Sciences, John Lewis, Open University, the Guilty Feminist / Joyful 
> Resistance and the European Parliament.
> 
> The Open Space Producer is responsible for both these areas of work. They 
> will work with the Artistic Directors to shape the D programme and with the 
> Executive Director to hone Improbable’s Open Space offer to external 
> organisations; and will work with the full team and external facilitators on 
> the delivery of D and Open Space events. 
> 
> – Key Details –
> 
> Salary: £30,000/year pro rata, equivalent to £18,000/year for three days per 
> week
> Hours: 24 hours/week. We anticipate that these hours will be worked over 
> three full days, but are open to other set-ups. This role will require 
> working evenings and weekends at Open Space events, for which Improbable 
> operates a Time Off in Lieu system.
> • Place of work: The Open Space Producer will be based at Improbable’s 
> London office.

Re: [OSList] What's going on with the OST entry on Wikipedia lately?

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Thanks HO.
Go for it. These three words are also part of the future, follow your dream or 
passion.  OS relies on commitment regardless of who it is.  Let us ensure there 
is room for new ideas to emerge and new relationships develop for with out 
change we stay the same and of course we get the same result.

We need world views that are concurrent with reality, new enterprises, and most 
of all the reality of community.  Community is the heart if note the soul of a 
self organising system.  Systems need balance not winners and losers.  Part of 
the new reality is responsibility.  The nation debt mounting by the mili second 
for the USA is intolerable in a global sense let alone a nation sense.   This 
public squalor has completely lost track of the responsibility we have as one 
citizen to to the other.  

Koos do you level best.   Just do it.  Let us see it blossom into a newness 
that reaches out to those who are open to change as our current reality.

Regards
Rob

> On 20 Feb 2020, at 5:36 pm, Harrison Owen via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Go for it Koos! For myself, I am out of the game. When Wikipedia first 
> happened I was invited to do something on OST. Which I did. From then on we/I 
> got well intentioned notes to “use impartial 3rd party sources. Two problems: 
> The only source I had is me (hardly impartial) AND nobody in the Academic 
> community has seen fit to write a serious peer reviewed article about OST. 
> Weird, but understandable – a whole mess of tenured positions could be at 
> stake! Just imagine what would happen to the Organization Design Depts. If 
> Open Space actually worked, and worse yet… was actually chronicled and 
> certified as “working” – whatever that might mean. Academic heads would 
> definitely roll! And with good reason. One of the last times I worked with a 
> large (American) corporation on a “sticky issue” the assembled group did in 
> two days what they had previously failed to do in two years. The chief of 
> that operation called me on the Monday to tell me that “He hated me.” He had 
> two reasons: 1) He now had to return to all the boring corporate meetings – 
> knowing full well that an alternative does exist. 2) He also had to admit 
> that two years of intense (expensive) effort had produced failure – which had 
> been rectified in two days – with virtually no effort on his part. Great 
> addition to the CV! And I’m supposed to write-up this kind of stuff? Crazy I 
> am … but masochistic NO-Way. Good luck. And no this was not AT Bigger and 
> richer!
>  
> ho
>  
> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of 
> Koos de Heer via OSList
> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2020 9:19 AM
> To: 'World wide Open Space Technology email list'
> Cc: Koos de Heer
> Subject: Re: [OSList] What's going on with the OST entry on Wikipedia lately?
>  
> Dear friends,
>  
> Why wait until WOSonOS? Editing Wikipedia pages is not difficult. I am a 
> Wikipedia editor myself, it is not hard to learn.  Wikipedia is like Open 
> Space. Anyone with a good mind and a good heart can do it.
>  
> I am willing to have a go at correcting the mistakes. Anyone of you who will 
> be reading my improvements and who wants to suggest further edits, is welcome 
> to email me and I will process it as soon as I have time.
>  
> This week is quite busy for me already, it may have to wait until the weekend 
> before I get around to making the first edits. If you are OK with this plan, 
> I will do it within a week and I will let you know when I have worked on it.
>  
> Wishing you all a great day
>  
> Koos de Heer
>  
>  
> Van: OSList  Namens Thomas Herrmann 
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> CC: Thomas Herrmann 
> Onderwerp: Re: [OSList] What's going on with the OST entry on Wikipedia 
> lately?
>  
> Sounds like a great idea to me Bhavesh, as long as she/he understands the 
> context, then whoever comes and what & where ever it happens…
> Looking forward to meeting many of you!
>  
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Re: [OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)?

[R Chaffe via OSList]

The sponsor must be quite clear as to the level of delegation they are willing 
to give to the participants. Then as Rolf says, you must choose if Open Space 
technology is the correct process.  You may operate out of an Open Space mind 
set!

Under promise and over deliver.  Never try to contradict what the sponsor 
requires, this well men you advise them that you are not the best person for 
the task required. Not an easy call to make when you think you need the work.  
In the longer term you are so much stronger and you will attract the best 
clients, this is where the rubber meets the road.

Regards
Rob

> On 5 Feb 2020, at 9:26 pm, Rolf F. Katzenberger via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Jake:
> 
> Given the amount of control desired by the sponsor, and your playing with 
> Liberating Structures , are you sure that Open Space is the most appropriate 
> format for the desired outcome? I might be wrong: it looks like a regular 
> workshop, designed around a suitable LS string, might work better here.
> 
> An Open Space does not impose that amount of control on the participants, 
> neither with respect to sessions, nor with handling outcomes in the way you 
> have described. Trying to add this type of control might cause a bit of 
> dissatisfaction with people who know what an Open Space really is, IMHO.
> 
> Greetings,
> Rolf
> 
> 
> 
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> Jake Yeager via OSList schrieb am 05.02.20 um 00:56:
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>> Anyone have experience using Open Space to develop OKRs with a group?
>> 
>> I am facilitating an Open Space event in late February. I plan to use the 
>> 25/10 Crowdsourcing method to prioritize draft objectives (O's) and then 
>> 1-2-4-All to develop the key results (KR's) for each objective. 
>> 
>> The sponsor wants a maximum of 3 objectives. It might get a little hairy if 
>> the clear cutoff for the 25/10 Crowdsourcing is greater than 3. Guess I 
>> could use voting to narrow it down. Also, I am exploring if consent 
>> decision-making could be useful. The sponsor might need to make a final call 
>> on the top 3 if the group is split.
>> 
>> Thanks and much love,
>> Jake
>> 
>> 
>> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and you 
>> will be free of problems.
>>  - Robert Adams
>> 
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Re: [OSList] Agile culture - video (X-posted OS/GC-list) the next step

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Certainly worth review.  It is a great “story” well illustrated.  The structure 
allows you to stop, discuss, move on and build a reaction/response in a 
constructive way.

So much of Open Space is the glue that holds such behaviour together.   Right 
now we need to brake the shackles of “winner take all” as the chaos in the 
Wider community is dominated by a few who seek total control.   Such stories 
rise about the normal debate level and pose challenges that can be discussed 
and consensus is a real outcome.

Too many people in the world feel they have no “voice” and as nations disappear 
under the sea or in the conflagration of wild fire.   Leaders choose to seek 
diversions from the real question of the sustainability of the whole world.

Videos like this provide choices and help move conversations to levels that can 
address the big issues rather than who has power.

Statesmanship is required, sorry I do not have a gender neutral way of 
describing this.  One reason is that it is so rare we do not have common nouns 
in our common conversations to describe these persons and their behaviour.

The video captures this tension and asks can we use these ideas on a global 
scale?  The answer is an emphatic YES.  Remember “the power of one” and the 
impact that each of us can make if we chose this “way less travelled”.  My 
limited mobility combined with my health issues requires that I work on myself 
and my small circle of friends.  My challenge to the young healthy and mobile 
of us will you give it a go?  The rewards are simply a healthy place to live 
well into the future.  The consequences are that in a very short time we will 
have nowhere to live and survival will become a life threatening activity.

Regards
Rob

> On 11 Jan 2020, at 4:48 am, Thomas Herrmann via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Dear friends in Open Space
> I had an interesting meeting today with a person in a large IT company and I 
> was reminded about this video, I think I shared it here before but it’s worth 
> watching again – I noticed! This link leads to the full 25 min video, about 
> the Agile Culture in Spotify company. There are shorter versions too, but I 
> recommend the full if you are really interested. Lots of good stuff and 
> interesting to understanding more about this approach and how it can be used 
> in a healthy way (as it sounds). I know it can also be ”mis-used” just like 
> OST.
> https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=spotify+agile&=detail=5DC370E7746AF98272625DC370E7746AF9827262&=VRDGAR=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dspotify%2Bagile%26FORM%3DVDVVXX
> We had some great conversations and areas of collaboration we will explore 
> bringing OST and GC into that company.
> Wishing you lots of open space for fun during the coming weekend
> Hugs
>  
> Thomas Herrmann
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Re: [OSList] Quite a few questions about Sponsors, empathy and a safe open space for all it’s participants

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Thanks HO
The act of joining the circle is a very powerful and for some confronting so in 
our preparations we need to be aware of this and tailor our leadership to allow 
people to overcome the reluctance to join and contribute.  The facilitator has 
a major responsibility to do their job well.  There is no prescriptive process 
just be at one with the sponsors and the participants.  Then be truely present.
My experience has been as Harrison describes the lion and the lamb sit down 
together and in all my experience they leave with new understanding and in many 
cases new fiends. Yes, things do get done.

Regards
Rob

> On 6 Jan 2020, at 1:50 am, Harrison Owen via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> This may be  a cop out on the questions… but one of the most amazing things 
> in the 30+ years I have been privileged to explore Open Space is that common 
> people, dealing with a common issue … while sitting in a circle, creating a 
> bulletin board and opening a market place – and then going to work … always 
> seem to get something useful done. And NEVER (in my experience) has blood 
> been shed. It can get terribly exciting, and I suspect the facilitator is the 
> most nervous. I have also heard of innumerable suggestion for good things to 
> do before, during, and after … but none … to the best of my knowledge have 
> made any difference. This does not mean that people can’t and don’t kill each 
> other, and of course we seem to be on the edge of doing that (killing) more 
> extensively at the moment BUT I have never seen that take place in Open 
> Space. It doesn’t even take place when the participants are sworn and 
> professional killers of each other. Now there’s a mystery.
>  
> Harrison
>  
> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of 
>   ? via OSList
> Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 5:50 AM
> To: oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
> Cc: שגית רוסו יצחקי
> Subject: [OSList] Quite a few questions about Sponsors, empathy and a safe 
> open space for all it’s participants
>  
> Hi everyone, 
> 
> I’m Sagit,  another one of Tova’s students :)
> 
> I'm interested in learning more about three different topics so thank you so 
> much for sharing your experience and opinions in one or all! 
> 
>  
> Sponsors - how vital are they for opening a space? 
> 
> For example, in the case of an association that is dealing with a significant 
> conflict. Since there is no external body that runs the association, the 
> question arises as to whether open space can be held without sponsors? Can a 
> community have an open space without a sponsor? 
> 
>  
> Some questions about empathy and open space -
> 
> The first one will be - Is empathy important for a successful open space?
> 
> And if empathy is important - 
> 
> How can empathic space be created and maintained for all its partners and 
> voices that want to be heard? 
> 
> What techniques and tools do you use to bring empathy to the open space and 
> how do you invite other participants to hold empathy together? 
> 
> Do you have any signs or metrics for measuring the levels of empathy in an 
> open space?
> 
>  Did you come across occasions where it was difficult or impossible to create 
> an empathic space?
> 
>  
> Creating an open space that allows all participants a safe and comfortable 
> space for expressing themselves  - 
> 
> In Open Space participants are invited to stand up and offer their topics for 
> conversation in the marktplace . I’m wondering whether people who are not 
> accustomed to make their voices heard or such who are at some disadvantage 
> (social, age, gender, origin etc.) Feel safe and comfortable initiating 
> conversations in such a space? 
> 
> What are the ways you know for making the space truly safe and inviting for 
> all its participants? 
> 
> How much does advance preparation contribute to their participation and what 
> should it include, in your opinion?
> 
> Thanks again for sharing,
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Sagit
> 
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Re: [OSList] A NEW YEAR’s POEM

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Things in South eastern Australia are not good at the moment.  Thousands of 
people are involved both in fire suppression and community support. 
Right now we need to keep those involved both directly and indirectly in our 
thoughts and prayers and as communities gather to deal with the new current 
reality there will be need for experienced professional facilitators to help 
deal with chaos and complexity.  Please keep this in mind and for those who 
take on this responsibility.

Regards
Rob

> On 1 Jan 2020, at 11:45 am, Carmela Ariza via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
>  Dear OST Community
> 
> Here’s a poem I wrote shortly after midnight...
> 
> EMBRACE EACH WONDERFUL PRESENT
> 
> We sail on
> Through dark and murky waters
> In pitch black stormy nights
> Fears are faced squarely
> 
> We move on
> Towards the light
> Never losing sight
> Of what is important in life
> 
> We are timid
> No more
> For we have found 
> Our anchor
> 
> We trust
> In the faithfulness 
> Of the universe
> As we open our hearts
> 
> We commit
> To the here and now
> Vowing to embrace fully
> Each wonderful present
> 
> 12:34, 01012020, C.Ariza 
> HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL!
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
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Re: [OSList] Happy birthday Harrison

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Harrison, it has become a milestone for us to mark time. The essence is what we 
do with every hour of every 365 days between milestones and how we respect the 
bounteous gifts that we have at our finger tips.  You are an example of what 
this means especially in relation to the gifts that people bring to our 
community.

Regards
Rob

> On 4 Dec 2019, at 5:10 am, Harrison Owen via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Made it through another year. Was thinking of moving to Mars… shorter yeara! 
> Thanks everybody!!
>  
> ho
>  
> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of 
> Peggy Holman via OSList
> Sent: Monday, December 2, 2019 12:40 PM
> To: Open Space Listserv
> Cc: Peggy Holman
> Subject: [OSList] Happy birthday Harrison
>  
> Morning all,
>  
> It’s that time of year. For most of us, it’s holiday season.
>  
> A special day for Open Space Technology is today: Harrison Owen’s birthday. 
>  
> Harrison: wishing you a great day and a special year. As disruption of the 
> status quo becomes louder and more prevalent, your gift to the world becomes 
> ever more relevant.
>  
> Thanks for being you.
>  
> Love,
> Peggy
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
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Re: [OSList] WOSonOS Privacy Guidelines

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Thank you for sharing our journey Michael.  Our journey continues and the 
milestones you shared remain as portals into our memories as well as the 
challenge and expectation as to how the next milestone will manifest itself.

May the conversations continue.  We are almost 20% into the NEW century and 
opening space remains the highlight of my life.

Regards
Rob

> On 2 Nov 2019, at 3:04 pm, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dear Marc,
> 
> back in 1996 I received the invitation to use OST (Open Space Technology). 
> This gift came from Harrison Owen.
> 
> It did not come without strings attached.
> A kind of "price", if you like:
> I was firmly admonished to share stuff that I learned in the process of 
> working with OST.
> "Right!", I thought and still think so. To share this stuff has been my daily 
> practice since then and I love it.
> 
> We are in an ongoing experiment with this technology. The parameters and 
> conditions under which this experiment is conducted continuously evolve 
> through our communicated experience and learning.
> 
> The first 16 events I facilitated in the 12 months after running into 
> Harrison confirmed that OST always works when certain prerequisites were in 
> place. It keeps on working even more reliably as our learning is spread.
> One of the myriad ways of spreading our learning and honing our skills in 
> this work are the many varieties of "learning exchanges".
> The best know are the
> --- WOSonOS moving around the planet
> --- regional OSonOS (European Learning Exchanges, for instance)
> --- national or local events (in some places they occur or did occur or are 
> started again and again in the UK, Basque Region, German language region 
> Austria-Germany-Switzerland and many other places)
> --- local exchanges and not to forget
> --- Stammtische (the next one in Berlin is just a few days away, Monday, 
> November 4 at 7pm at this location
>> http://www.kreuzberger-weltlaterne.com/?lang=en
> 
> As far as sharing of proceedings of our own events (we is the sponsors) the 
> present practice can be seen here
>> https://openspaceworld.org/wp2/osonos/
> Not only can you see the dates, places and conveners for each of the 26 
> WOSonoses listed there (the 27th of this year has not been posted yet, its 
> all selforganizing, nothing gets in there except stuff that someone puts 
> there) but also proceedings, such as the for the  18th in Berlin in 2010
>> https://openspaceworldscape.org/assets/1771-wosonos-proceedings-pdf.pdf
> and also for the Action Planing
>> https://openspaceworldscape.org/assets/1770-wosonos-action-planning-pdf.pdf
> Although this took place almost a decade ago, the pdf documents had a 
> navigation built in... you can reach the individual documents by clicking on 
> the items in the sidebar.
> 
> The proceedings for the Florida WOSonOS in 2013 are an example of a fancy set 
> with pictures and stuff typed up and a list of participants with names, email 
> addresses and places folks came from (if things went correctly, the photos 
> and address stuff could be there only if everyone agreed to that).
> 
> For proceedings of events we facilitate there are other modalities. What 
> happens to the proceedings is in the hands and responsibility of the sponsors 
> of events.
> Nevertheless, there is a data base that lists about 834 events that have 
> taken place around the planet... mostly its the Title, length of event, 
> dates, number of pariticpants, www of the sponsor, locations, names of 
> facilitators, Assistants and Team, Language used, tags... but not proceedings.
> Here are a couple of examples
>> https://openspaceworldscape.org/events/745-issues-and-opportunities-for-the-future-of-anafae
>> https://openspaceworldscape.org/events/813-novartis-2006-novartis-to-firma-w-kt-rej-wszyscy-najlepsi-chcieliby-pracowa-a-ci-co-w-niej-pracuj-to-nie-chc-z-niej-odej-co-zrobili-my-w-latach-2004-2005-aby-to-osiagn
> 
> 
> As far as poems are concerned: There used to be an annual competition for the 
> finest poems on open space... here is an sample of how that went (in fact, 
> the archives of our list are a real treasure chest for almost any angle of 
> our learning), inlcuding a sample of the poems
>> https://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org/msg01649.html
> 
> and a sample, authored by Ralph Copleman
> "Dare to Facilitate Open Space!
> 
> Against best counsel,
> Dare engagingly,
> Facilitate!
> Get help in just knowing Love matters!
> Now Open-positively-quite-remarkable-Space today!
> Undo victimhood,
> Wildly x-perience your zest!
> 
> That's it."
> 
> ...
> 
> cheers
> mmp
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Am 31.10.2019 um 18:27 schrieb Marc C. Trudeau via OSList:
>> Dear OSList community,
>> Will you give me some guidance on conventions on sharing Proceedings from 
>> WOSonOS outside this group. Is it appropriate to, for example, blog the 
>> beautiful found poem of our final check-out in Sunday’s closing circle? Is 
>> it appropriate to 

Re: [OSList] A proposal for many worlwide OST events on "Climate Change and the Future of Earth"

[R Chaffe via OSList]

We have a common topic for discussion that is based on a natural system.  30 
years ago Polio was regarded as disease that we had to accept.  Today the 
number of wild polio diagnosis is down to a handful, the last advice I had is 
10. It took a lot of talking and it has happened.

Climate has been changing since the dawn of being.  The recent (last 300 years) 
changes have been accelerated by human activity. 

Yes humankind will change, adapt and will seek more sustainable ways of living.

Now I’d the best time to discuss how we may adapt, the things that we can 
change and the systems that support sustainable living.

Robert Menzies a long searing prime minister of Australia, leader of the 
conservative Liberal Party is reported as saying something like “enterprise 
without regulation is chaos”.  The model of “winner take all and be dammed to 
the hindmost” as represented by many Western countries is not sustainable.  
Neither is the rule by force in many dictatorships where the very few have 
riches beyond understanding and the many are so poor they barely have enough to 
survive.

We know chaos is the breading ground of ideas for change,  conversation is the 
tool to build the process  and Open Space technology is and ideal process to 
get the best out of every conversation for all who participate.

Let us talk on, let us share our skills and be an active part of the 
conversations about change and our sustainability.  The next generations are 
seeking ways and means let us do what we can. In our own space.  When the time 
is right the people will come!

Regards
Rob

> On 25 Oct 2019, at 3:19 am, Eleder_BuM via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Harrison. really, it seems that, as you say, more than before, "the 
> environmental disaster is in the center of global conversation". 
> 
> Environmental disaster is closely linked to a wide variety of deep  topics, 
> usually unspoken/censured on the mass media, in my honest opinion, such as: 
> militar occupation and anihilation of far away lands and communities, just to 
> supply the fewer with unnecessary, illing stuff, due to a 
> consumerist/capitalist living model;
> huge efforts, resources and energy for the violence and armament industries
> despise of other races/communities,
> pschicological ill people in charge of ill organizations that rule and use 
> violence over the majority.
>  to name a few of them
> 
> Let's see how it all develops, and how we can help quality conversation and 
> conscious action. 
> 
> I tend to be an optimist, too, and love your idea: "and even if everything 
> reported in the article is gospel truth, I think it may well have backfired". 
> 
> Adding to the preparation of OS on this topic, I'd put a question on the 
> panel: "From Global warming to global disarmament, are we ready? How do we 
> get there?" and I think it would help having this question spread and growing.
> 
> I underline your last words, Harrison, brilliant: "It may well be too little, 
> too late, but nobody ever said the human experiment had to go on forever."
> 
> Continue breathing and nurturing so richly our conversations, dear old man, 
> big hug, in a nice autunm afernoon in Mundaka,
> 
> Eleder
> 
> Hau idatzi du Harrison Owen via OSList (oslist@lists.openspacetech.org) 
> erabiltzaileak (2019 urr. 23, az. (16:14)):
>> Sorry to say I missed your previous post. And for myself, I am still 
>> breathing! As for Greta, I guess I really don’t see how the alleged 
>> “manufacturers” are going to pull it off … and even if everything reported 
>> in the article is gospel truth, I think it may well have backfired. If 
>> nothing else, Greta (and whomsoever) have really placed our current 
>> environmental disaster in a the center of global conversation. It may well 
>> be too little, too late, but nobody ever said the human experiment had to go 
>> on forever.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Harrison
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Eleder_BuM via OSList
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 8:31 AM
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> Cc: Eleder_BuM
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] A proposal for many worlwide OST events on "Climate 
>> Change and the Future of Earth"
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hi Harrison, how arre you doing?
>> 
>> As you were mentioning "that marvelous lady from Sweden" referring, I 
>> suppose Greta Thunberg,
>> 
>> may I invite you to read this long and well documented writing that explains 
>> a big manufacturing around her and all this story, intended to get private 
>> profit 
>> along with damaging still more the planet and most of humanity.
>> 
>> I sent it some weeks ago to the list responding to this thread, 
>> nobody said nothing about it, and I was daring it didn´t even get you all.
>> 
>> Any view on it?
>> 
>> Big hug from Bilbao, and enjoy Wosonos, I´ll have all of you in my mind,
>> 
>> Eleder
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hau idatzi du Harrison Owen via OSList (oslist@lists.openspacetech.org) 
>> 

Re: [OSList] Brief OST Case Studies - Feel Free to Add

[R Chaffe via OSList]

So true. Being truely present opens up so much more.

Regards
Rob

> On 30 Sep 2019, at 3:50 am, Artur Silva via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thank you, Harrison (and Jake). 
> 
> I will compare with the book ;-)
> 
> Rgds
> 
> Artur
> 
> ---
> 
> On Saturday, September 28, 2019, 08:55:59 PM GMT+1, Harrison Owen via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> For anybody who cares, “Tales From Open Space” is freely available in PDF at 
> www.openspaceworld.com in the section called “books.”
> 
>  
> 
> Harrison
> 
>  
> 
> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of 
> Jake Yeager via OSList
> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 12:41 PM
> To: Marai Kiele; World wide Open Space Technology email list
> Cc: Jake Yeager
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Brief OST Case Studies - Feel Free to Add
> 
>  
> 
> Hey Marai,
> 
>  
> 
> I've updated the file with citations.
> 
>  
> 
> Please let me know if you have questions.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Jake
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and you 
> will be free of problems.
> 
>  - Robert Adams
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 5:42 PM Marai Kiele 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jake,
> 
>  
> 
> Cool, I appreciate your compilation and the sharing here!
> 
>  
> 
> You wrote that you compiled them "from Open Space World, the User's Guide, 
> and Tales from Open Space". 
> 
> Would it be possible for you to add the source to each study?
> 
>  
> 
> That would help when we or others share this stories.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
>  
> 
> And, wow, I have great joy getting to witness some of your journey with OST 
> and your intentions for your organisation!
> 
>  
> 
> Cheering you on,
> 
> Marai
> 
>  
> 
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> 
> 
> Am 21.09.2019 um 01:17 schrieb Jake Yeager via OSList 
> :
> 
>  
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
>  
> 
> I've compiled OST case studies in a brief format that I find useful for 
> contracting. Others might too.
> 
>  
> 
> I compiled them from Open Space World, the User's Guide, and Tales from Open 
> Space. 
> 
>  
> 
> Feel free to add.
> 
>  
> 
> Much love,
> 
> Jake
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
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> will be free of problems.
> 
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Re: [OSList] for you, what most honors the Ineffable Spirit of OST?

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Harold,
You use the prefix “right” I struggle with the implied judgement.  That is, if 
I had to explain “right” what that might be?  I .think it is also a reflective 
observation “the right people came”. The implication could be that those who 
were ready to take on the challenges generated at the gathering.

For me I think from the very first step to create an event the “thing that most 
honours the ineffable spirit of OST is respect.  This is something I can 
implement, practice and acknowledge without being trapped into judgmental 
descriptives.  Yes, respect also implies judgement the main difference  is I 
can practice respect.  Unconditional  respect leads to the most powerful 
elements of Peace, Hope, Empowerment and Love.

Regards
Rob

> On 18 Sep 2019, at 9:01 am, Harold Shinsato via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> What most honors the ineffable spirit of Open Space Technology for you?
> 
> For me, it's mostly just being in five principles... Trusting the Universe is 
> already providing 
> 
> the Right People
> the Right Time
> the Right Place
> the Right Stuff (whatever happens)
> 
> What about you?
> 
> Harold
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Re: [OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 101, Issue 5

[R Chaffe via OSList]

I’m with you Peggy, composing the invitation takes most of my time as it is the 
essence of the contract with sponsor and participants.

Regards
Rob

> On 17 Sep 2019, at 12:06 am, Peggy Holman via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Whether one chooses to stay or go, the law of two feet expresses the profound 
> act of taking responsibility for what you love. To me, the invitation to 
> attend to what matters to you by using the law is the essence of Open Space. 
> Everything else flows from it. 
> 
> Peggy Holman 
> 206-948-0432
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2019, at 4:05 AM, R Chaffe via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> It is just part of being truely at one with the group and putting into words 
>> the things people need to hear “I am important” and “I can choose”. 
>> 
>> Regards
>> Rob
>> 
>>> On 16 Sep 2019, at 5:25 pm, Paul Levy via OSList 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> To add to the celebration of the "Law"...
>>> 
>>> The Law of Two Feet equally expresses itself beautifully when people do not 
>>> move an inch. 
>>> 
>>> People who often move around sometimes make the sudden decision to stick 
>>> around. To plant their feet exactly where they are... 
>>> 
>>> People who stay yet again where they are out of fear or politeness may be 
>>> cooking up their biggest leap sideways that may only show itself in the 
>>> long run. 
>>> 
>>> Not moving. Now that's pretty cool too. 
>>> 
>>> Best wishes 
>>> 
>>> Paul Levy 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, 16 Sep 2019, 06:17 Jeff Aitken via OSList, 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> Yes. Chris C once said that people become like Taoist masters - using the 
>>>> law to flow in and out along the spectrum of engagement, wrestling with 
>>>> conflict on contentious issues, or hanging by the coffee table talking 
>>>> hockey...
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, Sep 15, 2019, 9:28 PM Bhavesh Patel  wrote:
>>>>> Over the years I have seen people go for a smoke, go to church, go to the 
>>>>> beach, play frisbee - and most of the time they have come back and weaved 
>>>>> in their conversations and sometimes they have turned out to be the most 
>>>>> useful and energising for them and the rest of the group!!!...
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, 16 Sep 2019 at 00:43, Jeff Aitken via OSList 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> Once I said "the law of two skis." We were 380 people in the ballroom of 
>>>>>> a mountain resort on a sunny morning of a professional association 
>>>>>> conference. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The big view window showed us the hills glistening with fresh snow. By 
>>>>>> my calculation 250 people used that law to be butterflies on the slopes, 
>>>>>> and the rest had breakout sessions in the ballroom for the day. Oh well. 
>>>>>> Everyone had a great time.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>> Telegraph Hill, San Francisco
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 15, 2019, 7:34 AM Brendan McKeague via OSList 
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> Bhavesh, I usually refer to the  ‘Law of Mobility (I often don’t know 
>>>>>>> in advance if any participants will be in wheelchairs), also known as 
>>>>>>> the Law of Two Feet’and if you find yourself in a place where you 
>>>>>>> are neither giving or receiving, contributing or learningthen take 
>>>>>>> yourself to where you’d rather be...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I’ve also needed to acknowledge ‘the Law of Four Hooves’ .yep, on 
>>>>>>> one occasion a horse walked right into the middle of the space!  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Whatever comes
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers 
>>>>>>> Brendan 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Brendan McKeague
>>>>>>> +61 429 448 090 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 15 Sep 2019, at 9:53 pm, Barry Owen via OSList 
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Bhavesh - I'm just playing with words and thought about a discreet bow 
>>>>>

Re: [OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 101, Issue 5

[R Chaffe via OSList]

It is just part of being truely at one with the group and putting into words 
the things people need to hear “I am important” and “I can choose”. 

Regards
Rob

> On 16 Sep 2019, at 5:25 pm, Paul Levy via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> To add to the celebration of the "Law"...
> 
> The Law of Two Feet equally expresses itself beautifully when people do not 
> move an inch. 
> 
> People who often move around sometimes make the sudden decision to stick 
> around. To plant their feet exactly where they are... 
> 
> People who stay yet again where they are out of fear or politeness may be 
> cooking up their biggest leap sideways that may only show itself in the long 
> run. 
> 
> Not moving. Now that's pretty cool too. 
> 
> Best wishes 
> 
> Paul Levy 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mon, 16 Sep 2019, 06:17 Jeff Aitken via OSList, 
>>  wrote:
>> Yes. Chris C once said that people become like Taoist masters - using the 
>> law to flow in and out along the spectrum of engagement, wrestling with 
>> conflict on contentious issues, or hanging by the coffee table talking 
>> hockey...
>> 
>>> On Sun, Sep 15, 2019, 9:28 PM Bhavesh Patel  wrote:
>>> Over the years I have seen people go for a smoke, go to church, go to the 
>>> beach, play frisbee - and most of the time they have come back and weaved 
>>> in their conversations and sometimes they have turned out to be the most 
>>> useful and energising for them and the rest of the group!!!...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mon, 16 Sep 2019 at 00:43, Jeff Aitken via OSList 
  wrote:
 Once I said "the law of two skis." We were 380 people in the ballroom of a 
 mountain resort on a sunny morning of a professional association 
 conference. 
 
 The big view window showed us the hills glistening with fresh snow. By my 
 calculation 250 people used that law to be butterflies on the slopes, and 
 the rest had breakout sessions in the ballroom for the day. Oh well. 
 Everyone had a great time.
 
 Jeff
 Telegraph Hill, San Francisco
 
 
> On Sun, Sep 15, 2019, 7:34 AM Brendan McKeague via OSList 
>  wrote:
> Bhavesh, I usually refer to the  ‘Law of Mobility (I often don’t know in 
> advance if any participants will be in wheelchairs), also known as the 
> Law of Two Feet’and if you find yourself in a place where you are 
> neither giving or receiving, contributing or learningthen take 
> yourself to where you’d rather be...
> 
> I’ve also needed to acknowledge ‘the Law of Four Hooves’ .yep, on one 
> occasion a horse walked right into the middle of the space!  
> 
> Whatever comes
> 
> Cheers 
> Brendan 
> 
> Brendan McKeague
> +61 429 448 090 
> 
>> On 15 Sep 2019, at 9:53 pm, Barry Owen via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Bhavesh - I'm just playing with words and thought about a discreet bow 
>> to "Right place"
>> 
>> The Law Of Mobility - If you find yourself in a place where you are not 
>> contributing or learning, then you can always choose to go to another 
>> place more useful for you...
>> 
>>> On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 8:20 AM Bhavesh Patel via OSList 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Might be running something next month for a number of people who will 
>>> be in wheelchairs... so playing with...
>>> 
>>> The Law Of Mobility - If you find yourself in a situation which you are 
>>> not contributing to or learning from, then you can always choose to go 
>>> to another place more useful for you...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Fri, 13 Sep 2019 at 18:18, anne stadler via OSList 
  wrote:
 Oops. Left out a word in my earlier statement. This is what I really 
 mean: 
 Stand up for, and move to wherever you can act on what you love & care 
 about. If you find you’re not contributing there, use your two feet to 
 move on.
 
 
 
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 11:00 PM anne stadler  
> wrote:
> Law of Two feet:
> Stand up and move to wherever you can act on what you love & care 
> about.  If you find you’re not contributing there, use your two feet 
> to move on.
> 
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Re: [OSList] Large Open Space with Anglican Church Australia

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Harrison, I can remember the events well.  The sight of a forklift load of 
proceedings certainly puts an exclamation on the sign of the contract to 
deliver.  

The big events with large numbers are very impressive and are great 
conversation starters.  The next thing that happens to me is I tell an 
individual’s story about participation and being valued while their suggestions 
are embodied in the conversations and proceedings.  

I think I am try to say league tables have a place and there is a lot more to a 
successful process, the event and what happed next.

Regards
Rob

> On 26 Aug 2019, at 10:05 pm, Harrison Owen via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Congratulations! And I hate to tell you, The United Church of Canada beat you 
> by a bit. Participants: 500, days: two, Date: mid 90’s  And actually the 
> Presbyterian Church USA beat that by several years with the same number of 
> participants – but best of all was the Proceedings. 320 odd pages, printed 
> and delivered before departure. 500 copies came in a fork lift! Have fun!
>  
> Harrison
>  
> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of 
> Michael Wood via OSList
> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2019 3:14 AM
> To: oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
> Cc: Michael Wood
> Subject: [OSList] Large Open Space with Anglican Church Australia
>  
> A few weeks ago Brendan McKeague and Michael Wood co-facilitated what might 
> be the largest ever Open Space in Australia (certainly with a church group) 
> when the Anglican Diocese of Brisbane took the step of hosting most of the 
> first day of Synod (the annual large gathering of representatives of Anglican 
> parishes, schools and other organisations) for 6 hours in Open Space. 450 
> people attended around a very spacious question, ‘what is God calling us to 
> be and do at this time’.  Three sessions of 1.5 hours each led to the posting 
> of 56 conversation topics and 14 action plans. One of the interesting pieces 
> of feedback at the end of Synod is that the remainder of Synod (which is 
> conducted in a traditional Westminster Parliament format) ‘felt’ more calm 
> and respectful that in previous years – no surprises there.  Although it’s 
> early days the whole thing felt to me like an opening up of new possibility 
> about the way we meet in the church and I personally hope it might be part of 
> a cultural shift starting to happen. Time will tell.
> Michael Wood. Perth, Western Australia.
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Re: [OSList] Large Open Space with Anglican Church Australia

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Well done Michael.  What a great question.  I am have a sense of wonder at the 
way people react to being in an open space and to openly share their knowledge. 
 Yes even after more than 30 years.   This despite the forces opposing open 
systems and common unity.

Regards
Rob

> On 26 Aug 2019, at 5:14 pm, Michael Wood via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> A few weeks ago Brendan McKeague and Michael Wood co-facilitated what might 
> be the largest ever Open Space in Australia (certainly with a church group) 
> when the Anglican Diocese of Brisbane took the step of hosting most of the 
> first day of Synod (the annual large gathering of representatives of Anglican 
> parishes, schools and other organisations) for 6 hours in Open Space. 450 
> people attended around a very spacious question, ‘what is God calling us to 
> be and do at this time’.  Three sessions of 1.5 hours each led to the posting 
> of 56 conversation topics and 14 action plans. One of the interesting pieces 
> of feedback at the end of Synod is that the remainder of Synod (which is 
> conducted in a traditional Westminster Parliament format) ‘felt’ more calm 
> and respectful that in previous years – no surprises there.  Although it’s 
> early days the whole thing felt to me like an opening up of new possibility 
> about the way we meet in the church and I personally hope it might be part of 
> a cultural shift starting to happen. Time will tell.
> Michael Wood. Perth, Western Australia.
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Re: [OSList] Okay...Forget Certification then...How about Co-Creating a NEW OST ASSOCIATION? Such as...THE International Association for Peace and Human Understanding...?

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Paul
You say
“For me, offering training in OST is like taking a day to train someone in how 
to drink fresh water.”

Right now millions of dollars are being spent doing just that “teaching people 
to drink fresh water” because in the western world we have lost our way and 
cannot even feed ourselves properly any more.  Your example is so true we do 
have to teach people to find an open space to provide genuine opportunities to 
be part of their future.  

Think again, you may be the best person to do just that and teach people about 
Open Space and it’s technology.

Regards
Rob

> On 20 Aug 2019, at 7:31 pm, paul levy via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> For me, offering training in OST is like taking a day to train someone in how 
> to drink fresh water.
> 
> Regards 
> 
> Paul Levy
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Re: [OSList] Okay...Forget Certification then...How about Co-Creating a NEW OST ASSOCIATION? Such as...THE International Association for Peace and Human Understanding...?

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Chris,
I look forward to Mark’s reply to your question.  It seems to me that that the 
question mixes up the who and the what.  Mark uses a few examples including a 
mechanic, the first question I have is what experience the trade person has my 
second is an example of their work.  OST is at one level about the “how” the 
job is done and I think that is one level the question comes from.  Being able 
to Open Space and engage effectively with the sponsor and the community of 
concern is an other level again.

There is a level of trust between the sponsor and the facilitator that the 
result the sponsor wants will be delivered.  The sponsor might ask how did you 
do that? I suggest that they are more interested on what you as facilitator 
delivered based on the contract.

In many ways focusing on the how is counter productive the “what” is the thing 
that pays the bills and builds reputations.

If my thinking is correct the struggle is to define a professional facilitator 
who can deliver is the issue not what tools they use when it comes to a 
contract.

Regards
Rob

> On 20 Aug 2019, at 2:31 am, Chris Corrigan via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Whenever I want to know if my work of Hosting an Open Space Technology 
> meeting was useful, I give the participants a form that sinplay says 
> “complete the following sentence. As a result of this meeting...”
> 
> The only people who should be judging the efficacy of an OST meeting are the 
> people who called it in the first place to get their work done. In my 
> experience, they are happy if the meeting has helped them. 
> 
> My work is always directed towards client needs. Some times we do Open Space. 
> Sometimes we do it in a way that would drive a “by the book” person crazy. 
> But it’s about the clients. I doubt there is a way my process could be 
> formalized in a way that works better for my clients than sitting down and 
> listening to their needs. 
> 
> There is already a network of Open Space Institutes who steward this 
> practice. There is an international association of facilitators who can join 
> if you want certification. 
> 
> I find myself constantly wanting to defend this radical openness. Mark, what 
> is behind your string desire for something more formal than what we already 
> have?
> 
> Chris. 
> 
> 
> _
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> www.chriscorrigan.com
> 
>> On Aug 19, 2019, at 8:29 AM, Mark Carmel via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 1st of all thank you for everyone who gave me feedback on my big idea for 
>> certification. It was sincerely appreciated. However I can see it was 
>> something that did not  Resonate well.
>> 
>> Open space technology has clearly set the standard for the facilitation of 
>> peace and human understanding. It is such a powerful and simple tool but 
>> highly complex. As Harrison says..  chaos plows the fields of the mind so 
>> that new ideas can grow... I think there is ample chaos for us to tackle 
>> right now.
>> 
>> I think it is highly important for the leadership of our open space world to 
>> make a decision now while we still have Harrison among us as a living 
>> spirit. Because we have already set the standards why not cement the 
>> standards and turn it into an everlasting association that could be 
>> organized to deliver training, etc. To advance the mission of human peace 
>> and understanding in a more organized way?
>> 
>> If you want to be a beautician or a mechanic or a rocket scientist or a city 
>> manager there are associations for that .
>> 
>> Why not an association for open space technology practitioners to define the 
>> standards, the ethics, code of conduct, the way that Harrison has already 
>> articulated them, but to formalize them and help us get organized and stay 
>> organized until we get the job done?
>> 
>> Respectfully submitted,
>> Mark Carmel
>> 
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Re: [OSList] Determining Duration of Open Space Event?

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Thank you Harrison,  I would add that if the group has had to travel to the 
event allow three days.  Day one get started, day two focused conversation, day 
three rap up and print proceedings.  My experience is that on the last day of a 
gathering travel the participants pack their bags in the morning an they are 
mentally finished and on their way home.  Three days means you have one clear 
day including out do session time when ALL the participants being is focused on 
the event.  The third day also allows the publishing of the proceedings to a 
“best quality”.

Regards
Rob

> On 15 Aug 2019, at 12:18 am, Harrison Owen via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Duration: One day for simple stuff. Two Days for complex situation with the 
> possibility of decision making/action group formation. If the people involved 
> say that is too much time, that it is pretty clear that:  A) The issue isn’t 
> that important. B) Nobody really cares. This actually a really good test for 
> the first essential pre-condition for a productive Open Space – A really 
> critical issue that has folks’ Attention. In short, they care.
>  
> ho
>  
> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of 
> Jake Yeager via OSList
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 8:07 AM
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list; Michael M Pannwitz
> Cc: Jake Yeager
> Subject: [OSList] Determining Duration of Open Space Event?
>  
> Hey Michael, 
>  
> Back in mid-July you provided a really helpful description of your 
> contracting process for Open Space (reproduced below). I am using this to 
> make my contracting process more robust, so thank you!
>  
> One question I have for you: in your contracting process when is there a 
> determination of the duration of the Open Space? And how does that come about?
>  
> If others have thoughts on this subject, please join in!
>  
> Thanks!
>  
> All the best,
> Jake
>  
> 
> Dear Mark,
> 
> had a good laughing attack, reading your message.
> 
> The approach I have developed to improve on the role and task of the 
> "leader" goes like this:
> 
> 1. Contact:
> I get a call from someone, not necessarily the "leader", sometimes a 
> person from the OD department of the organization requesting an OST 
> event. This professional person, as anyone else, can really have a 
> number of assumptions about the organization she or he works for. After 
> listening for a very short while (since I dont want to get confused) I 
> suggest my standard procedure, a contact meeting with those that decide 
> on this event.
> 
> 2. Contact meeting face-to-face, never online or similar stuff:
> Usually three or four or five people (I suggested to the first caller 
> that it should be a bit of a diverse small group) gather for this 
> contact meeting which lasts exactly 1 hour and maybe 15 minutes. For 
> this meeting I dont charge anything regardless of the outcome. The 
> potential client simply pays the costs (if I have to fly to Paris and 
> spend a night there which happened in the early stage of the 300 leaders 
> with Muslims, Jews and Christians engaged in World Peace in Sevilla (HO 
> facilitated, I helped).)
> In this meeting I suggest the present folks have an exchange on what the 
> gathering is planned for (usually there is a pretty divergent response 
> but the central issue becomes clearer).
> After that I tell them about the 5 or 6 prerequites for an OST event and 
> have them exchange on those.
> At the end I also ask them how aware they are about the role of leaders 
> after an OST event in face of the fact that participants start to lead 
> themselves. Oh, yes, they exclaim, thats what we would love. Hmmm. I 
> also add that nobody from the organization should make any promises in 
> regard to the potential actions that people will engage in after the 
> event. Them then also leading will know what kind of support they need 
> and how to get it.
> Before leaveing I tell them to sleep over all this and give me a ring.
> If they call me and if I have a hunch that it will all work out, the 
> third step is the :
> 
> 3. Planning Meeting (preparatory meeting):
> A group of 8 to 35 people (thats the range I have experienced in my 
> career of working with OST) that the "leaders" selected, mirroring 
> approximately the expected participants, meet for exactly 3.5 hours to
> - exchange their expectations re the outcome (Thinking of the first 
> working day after the event, what has changed?)
> - develope the overall theme (in four steps: everyone for himself 
> followed by random small groups to come to one theme, followed by a 
> quick round of weighing the various themes, a round of three or four 
> that want to come to a final suggestion (in fishbowl with the rest of 
> the group watching, one empty chair for folks watching to come in and 
> make a suggestion and immeditately leaving the chair again) and fourth 
> an exchange of all to see whether the theme is it
> - a 

Re: [OSList] Why CERTIFICATION makes sense considering this conversation on Mission, Vision Strategy Plans, etc.

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Michael, 
I would add one thing and that open space is about a living evolving system, 
each “space” has unique characteristics that relate to that group at that time. 

I think I am saying that although the principles are the same effective open 
space will be unique to that time and those present.  The timing of events and 
the staging will suit the special space in the life of that group or 
organisation.  “It lives”.   There is a hymn that says “He lives in me and He 
lives in you.”. Open Space by definition will grow and organise itself as a 
self organising sustainable system.  How good is that!

Regards
Rob

> On 15 Aug 2019, at 5:08 am, Harrison Owen via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Brilliant… Michael. Thank You!
>  
> ho
>  
> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of 
> Michael Herman via OSList
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 2:46 PM
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> Cc: Michael Herman
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Why CERTIFICATION makes sense considering this 
> conversation on Mission, Vision Strategy Plans, etc.
>  
> Harrison, your likening OS to breathing is true enough.  And maybe 
> storytelling would be a better example.  Everyone tells stories, the audience 
> matters, your history matters, their history matters, what works in one 
> story/situation won't work in another.  Every invitation is a story.  What 
> matters is practice, and after telling a few stories, we can start to tell 
> stories about the stories we've invited people into.  
>  
> As for breaking into this invitation/story game, find a teacher, anyone who's 
> done it before, and share their stories a bit until someone lets us do you 
> first one.  The first time I tried to open space, the (Catholic church) 
> organizers were doubtful.  I told them stories I'd heard from you and others. 
>  Still doubtful, as those stories were about AT and other strange places, I 
> found a 68-year old nun you'd trained to tell her stories, who assured them 
> that "Catholics can indeed do this."  And I was on my way.  
>  
> From the standpoint of storytelling, OS is self-certifying.  Better to tell a 
> good story about "how I did it somewhere before" than tell a story or wave a 
> piece of paper that says "i paid for a training and so-and-so says i know 
> what i'm doing."  And getting started, better to rely on others' stories, 
> because we still need to be able to tell them in a way that encourages trust. 
>  We shape their stories into our own story of what's possible in this new 
> situation.  If, when, we succeed, we have been certified by our sponsors, 
> clients, organizers, colleagues.  These people can't outsource their work to 
> an OS certification body, they need to investigate the would-be 
> facilitator/leader for themselves, listen to and test and join the stories 
> that the aspiring facilitator can tell, and decide for themselves if this can 
> work for them.  Then they certify to the community that this event is worth 
> attending.  Then the facilitator certifies to the group that they are worth 
> listening to, and following.  It's all a very circular process in some ways.
>  
> It's also linear, so I want to put a plug in for "lineage."  It matters to 
> me, and has mattered to some clients perhaps along my way, that I have spent 
> time learning and practicing with Harrison and some of his oldest students.  
> They haven't necessarily met these folks, but they know some of their stories 
> from me and they know that I know these people.  Community and a line of 
> storytelling matters.  When I've sat with Tibetans teachers, even very high 
> lamas like Dalai Lama, they typically tell you right up front, "This is not 
> my teaching I'm going to give you, this is what I got from my teacher, who 
> got it from his teacher, who got it from her teacher..."  This kind of 
> expanding storytelling lineage is what allows for the wild diversification of 
> practice without a loss of potency.  In this way, each branch of the teaching 
> is an experiment, a test, in community, that can succeed or fail on its own.  
> The buddhists generally draw this as a lineage tree, with the root teacher at 
> the bottom, rather than a hierarchy with a certify chief or council at the 
> top.  Some branches might prove weak and fail, but that's okay.  There are 
> still many other connections to the root.
>  
> There is no need to certify practice, only to keep telling stories about our 
> connections to the root teacher and story.  At this point, Harrison has been 
> certified as root teacher by Berrett-Koehler, but that came many years after 
> he was certified by a community of practitioners who read the book where he 
> self-certified his own experiences with OS, where he told his own stories and 
> invited others to try them with and without him.  
>  
> So what we really need to do is keep going back to that root practice, shared 
> right up in the introduction to the user's guide, 

Re: [OSList] Why CERTIFICATION makes sense considering this conversation on Mission, Vision Strategy Plans, etc.

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Yes! Head and heart linked by a passion to serve.

Regards
Rob

> On 15 Aug 2019, at 2:05 am, Chris Corrigan via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> You do realize that Jesus never certified practitioners of Christianity, 
> right? And that subsequent attempts to do so basically created a toxic 
> blending of Church and Empire that contributed to mass amounts of suffering 
> through incredibly toxic and psychopathic uses of power and control for most 
> of the last 1700 years?
> 
> And I say that as a Christian who works with churches.  
> 
> Mark, just open space.  That’s what the world wants more of. It does not want 
> or need more  people running around saying they are certified to open space.  
> It truly doesn’t care. Your credentials mean nothing if you aren’t actually 
> opening space.  And if you are opening space, no one will care what your 
> credentials are.  The best OST meetings I’ve ever been a part of were 
> facilitated by people who had never done them before.  They cared about the 
> participants, they took care to follow the instructions, they took nothing 
> for granted, and they learned a lot about themselves and others.  Some of 
> these people were 14 years old. 
> 
> Coincidently, some of these people are also the best Christians I have ever 
> met, too, for the same reasons. 
> 
> Just do the work and share your learning and get better at it. That’s how I 
> learned, that’s how I support others and that’s my invitation to you. Resist 
> the devilish temptation to build an empire.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 14, 2019, at 8:39 AM, Mark Carmel via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Fascinating conversation. This is exactly why we need a certification-like 
>> program and an organizational structure for the future if we want to train 
>> people in the finer points of sustaining open space interventions over time 
>> as Chris has done. There is a lot more to it than just throwing out an 
>> invitation and opening up the market place. It is interesting to me that 
>> from the most seasoned open space masters the idea was instantly shot down, 
>> saying...we discussed that already... Now that is not what an open space 
>> facilitator normally does right? Shoot down other people's ideas. The world 
>> has evolved into one that respects credentials. Interestingly the ones who 
>> spoke the strongest against certification have already given themselves nice 
>> fancy titles. Which is wonderful.  Because credentials really do matter. 
>> Right now open space facilitators must give themself their own title and 
>> otherwise have no backing whatsoever to lend credibility to their self given 
>> titles. When you talk about overcoming the resistance of executives and with 
>> the retaliation nation nature of things now (look at Hong Kong) it makes 
>> sense to put some structure to the educational credentialing of OSTsters 
>> from apprentice  to Master to mentor.  In terms of VISION and MISSION and 
>> VALUES and STRATEGY, why is it that we facilitators want to apply that same 
>> organizational structure for ALL other organizations but resist doing the 
>> same for OUR work, to create OUR organization... What IS our vision...to 
>> hope the world magically organizes around OST... or to make it happen 
>> through a viable 1,000 year vision.  In his great book, Leadership Is,  
>> Harrison is spot on to define OST as the ONE way for leaders to be a 
>> caretaker of the Spirit.  We must not be naive to believe that leaders will 
>> not crush the Spirit once it emerges in Open Space. This requires highly 
>> advanced training to be able to navigate the process over decades of 
>> implementation.  ALL great decisions require great leadership. If OST ever 
>> gets an organization, I hope this idea will be considered by its leaders or 
>> of course someone else will do it or it will not be done. In some ways, or 
>> all ways, Harrison has created a new religion of Spirit and I hope that an 
>> organizational structure WILL be created kinda like that other dude who 
>> started out with 12 disciples. 
>> Peace,
>> Mark Carmel
>> 
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Re: [OSList] The Triumph of Truth Over Error...Chime in if that's OKAY with YOU? What do you say we raise some SERIOUS money OFFICIALLY training and certifying ALL the GOOD SPIRITS among us mortals to

[R Chaffe via OSList]

“The writing is on the wall” as exposed in “who moved my cheese” we all do need 
to do our reading as the “writing on the wall” requires attention to detail and 
“listening” to the stories.

It is a matter of standing on the shoulders of so many who have gone before us. 
In the raw statements it may sounds arrogant in its simplicity yet a little 
looking and listening at the “writing on the wall” and the truth is revealed in 
its effective simplicity. 

Like most effective things it looks easy and it’s description is simple. 
 The devil is in the detail.  Prior good performance and “scores on the board” 
build trust. It is “up to you”. ( the rest of the quote is “if you have a soul 
and a spirit”)  to include this in your contract with your sponsor.  

Competency documents are only as good as the holder.  Regrettably too many use 
such documents as camouflage so too often we find Registered Training Providers 
are putting most of their energy into sustaining the “quality” of their 
documentation corrupted by those who use them as “meal tickets”.

Follow Koos recommendation (instruction).  It is mandatory, “if you have a soul 
and a spirit”.

Regards
Rob

> On 2 Aug 2019, at 6:58 am, Michael Herman via OSList 
>  wrote:
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> 
>  
> --
> 
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> 
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 2:54 PM Chris Corrigan via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> I strongly agree with Koos.  
>> 
>> No.  
>> 
>> Chris Corrigan.
>> 
>>> On Aug 1, 2019, at 1:10 PM, Koos de Heer via OSList 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> No thanks. I suggest you scan the archive of this list at 
>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/ to find 
>>> out why. There are over 1,000 matches on “certified” or “certification.” No 
>>> use repeating this discussion over and over again.
>>>  
>>> Van: OSList  Namens Mark Carmel via 
>>> OSList
>>> Verzonden: donderdag 1 augustus 2019 21:36
>>> Aan: World wide Open Space Technology email list 
>>> 
>>> CC: Mark Carmel 
>>> Onderwerp: [OSList] The Triumph of Truth Over Error...Chime in if that's 
>>> OKAY with YOU? What do you say we raise some SERIOUS money OFFICIALLY 
>>> training and certifying ALL the GOOD SPIRITS among us mortals to become 
>>> CERTIFIED OPEN SPACE TECHNOLOGISTS???
>>>  
>>> Dear World Wide Open Space Technologists,
>>>  
>>> ALL we have to do ONLY requires a collective DECISION.  
>>>  
>>> Here is the question:  Are you IN or out?
>>>  
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Re: [OSList] action reflection learning track for leaders who have experienced OST in their organizations

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Thanks Birgitt,
I think it is called maturity- that is the process of redefining the 
boundaries.  The “sigmoid “ curve or organisational performance show us that as 
we accelerate and broaden our “givens” the organisation needs to invigorate 
itself lest it slide into a comfort zone chocked by its own inability to 
explore the “risky” areas of newness.  “Who stole my cheese?” Is a short 
exploration of some options open to those who have “plenty of cheese”.  Toyota 
seem to have done a good job in this area since the 1950s.

“There is always something”.  The wonder of actively working in complex systems.

Regards
Rob

> On 23 Jul 2019, at 9:59 am, Birgitt Williams  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Rob,
> I appreciate your emphasis on the 'givens' for an OST meeting. I was thinking 
> about your wisdom of the step by step process that is needed in an 
> organization. This relates to my experience of helping the organization 
> practice and develop its capacity for working with OST...and as you refer to, 
> as a way of life.
> 
> I wish to add one observation. The original space that is open continues to 
> emerge. The 'givens' need to be updated regularly including asking 'is this 
> really a given?'. The givens thus evolve, as does the capacity for working in 
> a culture of leadership...and leading a culture of leadership.
> 
> Birgitt
> 
> 
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>> On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 10:20 PM R Chaffe  wrote:
>> Brigitte and Thomas,
>> In negotiations leading to the opening of space it is vital that the 
>> “givens” or “boundaries” are defined based on the authority of the manager 
>> to set things within their control/responsibility.  Failing to do this 
>> results in a disaster for all involved.
>> 
>> The governance issues arise when people step outside their level or area of 
>> responsibility and accountability.
>> 
>> “We” do this all the time as we train our children to take responsibility 
>> for getting tasks done.  Toddlers “wash up” the wooden and plastic toys and 
>> step by step they graduate to managing the fine Chrystal and Chinaware.   
>> 
>> Enterprises are the same they need to learn how to work with Open Space so 
>> that at all times all the participants are aware of the level of 
>> delegation/responsibility they have and are accountable for.   It is a step 
>> by step process not an event, it moves from a process to a “way of being” by 
>> the way the outputs are implemented.
>> 
>> When every person takes responsibility for their share of governance and 
>> action then we have the whole organism working together for success.  The 
>> best part is that the “local networks” are primed to support collaboration 
>> and synergy based on success for all.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Rob
>> 
>>> On 21 Jul 2019, at 10:33 am, Birgitt Williams via OSList 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear Thomas,
>>> Thank you for your thoughtful reply. 
>>> 
>>> You raised the following points/question and I am responding to this "One 
>>> thing came to mind from a managers perspective. I think of a challenge 
>>> regarding legal responsibility for the assets. If it’s my company, I take 
>>> the risk by myself. If I am hired as manager for a company owned by someone 
>>> else and thinking about self-management, I feel unsure about giving away 
>>> decision-making power while remaining legally responsible. I would like to 
>>> have the owners in on that conversation."
>>> 
>>> Your concern about accountability for assets is similar to the dominant 
>>> concern that comes up for senior leaders. It is always the senior leader 
>>> that is held accountable for the performance of the organization and thus 
>>> the concern raised is inclusive of the concern about assets...it is about 
>>> the reality that their is personal accountability for performance. 
>>> 
>>> Following, I am writing as though we were having a conversation. I am not 
>>> certain how this will come across in email format. I invite you to imagine 
>>> that these are my replies within a conversation.
>>> 
>>> The senior 

Re: [OSList] action reflection learning track for leaders who have experienced OST in their organizations

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Brigitte and Thomas,
In negotiations leading to the opening of space it is vital that the “givens” 
or “boundaries” are defined based on the authority of the manager to set things 
within their control/responsibility.  Failing to do this results in a disaster 
for all involved.

The governance issues arise when people step outside their level or area of 
responsibility and accountability.

“We” do this all the time as we train our children to take responsibility for 
getting tasks done.  Toddlers “wash up” the wooden and plastic toys and step by 
step they graduate to managing the fine Chrystal and Chinaware.   

Enterprises are the same they need to learn how to work with Open Space so that 
at all times all the participants are aware of the level of 
delegation/responsibility they have and are accountable for.   It is a step by 
step process not an event, it moves from a process to a “way of being” by the 
way the outputs are implemented.

When every person takes responsibility for their share of governance and action 
then we have the whole organism working together for success.  The best part is 
that the “local networks” are primed to support collaboration and synergy based 
on success for all.

Regards
Rob

> On 21 Jul 2019, at 10:33 am, Birgitt Williams via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dear Thomas,
> Thank you for your thoughtful reply. 
> 
> You raised the following points/question and I am responding to this "One 
> thing came to mind from a managers perspective. I think of a challenge 
> regarding legal responsibility for the assets. If it’s my company, I take the 
> risk by myself. If I am hired as manager for a company owned by someone else 
> and thinking about self-management, I feel unsure about giving away 
> decision-making power while remaining legally responsible. I would like to 
> have the owners in on that conversation."
> 
> Your concern about accountability for assets is similar to the dominant 
> concern that comes up for senior leaders. It is always the senior leader that 
> is held accountable for the performance of the organization and thus the 
> concern raised is inclusive of the concern about assets...it is about the 
> reality that their is personal accountability for performance. 
> 
> Following, I am writing as though we were having a conversation. I am not 
> certain how this will come across in email format. I invite you to imagine 
> that these are my replies within a conversation.
> 
> The senior leader makes strategic choices, with or without the involvement of 
> the owners of the company, or in the case of the non-profit, with or without 
> the Board of Directors.  If including the Board of Directors or owners, I 
> suggest presenting this as a strategy that you are recommending to accomplish 
> a particular business goal ie: increasing employee engagement, increasing the 
> health and well being of the organization, or other. 
> 
> There is wisdom in keeping authority linked with responsibility and 
> accountability. In my experience, when the question of sharing decision 
> making comes up, it is helpful to consider this triumvirate of 
> authority/responsibility/accountability including whether the authority and 
> accountability can be linked appropriately with whoever already has 
> responsibility for various aspects of the organization. It starts to make 
> sense to distribute the authority and accountability to achieve alignment 
> with responsibility. In our geographic area we have a wisdom that says 'it is 
> a fools errand to take on responsibility if you don't have the authority to 
> go with it to get the job done'.
> 
> Okay, if we are this far along in the discussion and the thinking/reflecting 
> about this topic, you may be saying "Birgitt, I get all of that. Yet i still 
> feel nervous about sharing the decision making and what we have discussed 
> doesn't really help me".
> 
> I would then introduce the concept of "givens" to you. It is the job of the 
> senior leader to determine the "givens" or non-negotiables that the senior 
> leader has decided upon. Working at the "givens" is one side of the task of 
> figuring out how much freedom you are giving the people within which to be 
> creative, innovative, and make decisions. As one Director said to me "in my 
> decades of career, getting honest with myself about the givens has been the 
> hardest work I have ever done. And now that it is done, and the givens are 
> communicated, and everyone is figuring out what they now have authority and 
> freedom for, this is amazing. My only regret is that I didn't do this sooner 
> in my career. When I defined the givens, for the first time I defined the 
> space within which I truly want the people to be free to be their best. I can 
> be accountable for our performance within this frame of 'givens' and the 
> clarity about the space I have opened up in my organization."
> 
> Thomas, this is the best I can do to describe the ways forward beyond the 
> tension 

Re: [OSList] Orgs that Failed to Implement Self-Organization?

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Jake,
By definition self organisation occurs despite any efforts to make it happen.  
Self means just that ie. it is about personal commitment to one’s self.  When a 
system self organises those who are viewing it as if through a window wonders 
how?  Then the question is why?  In change again by definition new things are 
operating in the environment we are in.  Maslow would say we revert to the base 
of his needs and then as we mature we reach the ultimate self actualisation.  
So the function of a self organising or self managed group will be compromised 
when someone’s needs are not met.

Normally, from my experience the organisation or management of the group will 
move to and fro through a range of responses that what we might call “living 
cadence”. And if the situation is compromised beyond the group’s ability to 
cope we can say the self organised group has failed.

Having had the privilege of working in a number of self organising groups it is 
as if by magic things get done to standards way in excess of what I had thought 
possible.  Over time groups evolve as they adapt to their environment.  As said 
in the bible there is a time for everything as one waxes one wanes.

Regards
Rob

> On 21 Jun 2019, at 12:04 pm, Juliane Martina Roell (Structure & Process) via 
> OSList  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Jake Yeager via OSList schrieb am 20.06.19 um 19:31:
>> Hey everyone,
>> Does anyone know of organizations that attempted to implement 
>> self-organization but failed? If so, do you know some of the factors that 
>> contributed to the failure? We hear about the successes, like Semco and AES, 
>> but rarely about the failures. I'd like to understand better what the 
>> pitfalls are and also what the success rate is.
> Hi Jake,
> 
> what do you mean by "implement self-organization"?
> How would one go about doing that?
> 
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Re: [OSList] Government community engagement

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Governor Gary Locke launched an initiative to 
> strengthen arts funding in Washington State.  He appointed a Blue Ribbon Arts 
> Task Force to review State support of the arts and recommend ways “to ensure 
> that our cultural life remains strong.”
> …After a one-year review Governor Locke’s Arts Task Force called for 
> strengthening WSAC’s role and developing a “thoughtful plan for increased 
> funding.”
> With strong statewide support for those recommendations, the 1999 Legislature 
> approved a $750,000 increase to WSAC’s budget – the first budget increase the 
> agency had received in a decade.  The funding increase came with the 
> requirement that WSAC submit a strategic plan to Governor Locke and key State 
> leaders by June 30,2000. This plan is the result of that charge, and the 
> outcome of a planning process that stretched across the state.
>  
> Planning on the Arts:  Voices of the People
> 
> From the early states of this planning process, WSAC envisioned a statewide 
> conversation about the arts that would strengthen the State’s arts resources 
> and expand the impact and effectiveness of the arts for all residents of the 
> state.   Through two statewide meetings, 18 community meetings, several 
> meetings of the Washington State Arts Commission, an online forum and a 
> dedicated phone line, WSAC recorded the views, concerns, ideas and dreams 
> from people across the State.  More than 1000 people have been involved 
> directly in the development of this plan; their testimony, stories, 
> deliberation and reflection are the foundation for this strategic plan.
> In the statewide and community meetings, the format used was Open Space 
> Technology, a process to enable large groups of people to explore complex 
> issues.  Participants at each session recorded the discussion in a summary 
> format that could be understood readily by someone who wasn’t there.  True to 
> the spirit of Open Space Technology, the discussions were driven by passion 
> for the arts and responsibility for the issues and opportunities faced 
> individually and collectively.
> Excerpt from “Planning On The Arts: Washington State Arts Commission’s 
> Strategic Plan”
> 
>  
> 
> Reflections on the process
> 
> When WSAC first contacted me, their biggest concern with an open, 
> “conversational” meeting format was that community divisions would drown out 
> any possibility of a cohesive plan.  East vs. west, big organization vs. 
> small organization, rural vs. urban; participants would focus on their own 
> agenda and fight over a small financial pie.  In fact, just the opposite 
> happened.  People came together and focused on their common hopes and 
> aspirations for strengthening the arts throughout the state.  The plan became 
> an occasion for an unprecedented commitment to inclusion of many 
> perspectives. As a result, when sent out for comment, the plan was 
> enthusiastically received; everyone found their voice reflected.  Ironically, 
> the fear of conflict was released so completely, that the significance of its 
> absence was barely noted.
> Behind the scenes: Supporting the meetings
> 
>  To support the 20+ meetings held by WSAC, a call was issued for skilled Open 
> Space practitioners in Washington State.  More than 20 people agreed to 
> participate.  They were convened for a train-the-trainer session that 
> introduced them to WSAC, the process, engaged them in finalizing the meeting 
> design, and provided them the logistical information they needed.
> Meetings ranged in size from 5 to 100.  Depending on the anticipated size, 
> some practitioners worked in pairs, others alone.  They took their work 
> seriously – every commitment to participate was honored by these 
> practitioners. In addition, at the train-the-trainer, we agreed to share 
> experiences via e-mail as the events took place.  The unanticipated result 
> was a rich conversation among practitioners that enabled each meeting to 
> build on the learnings from the ones that came before. 
>  
> 
> 
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> On Jun 5, 2019, at 8:53 PM, R Chaffe via OSList 
>  wrote:
>  
> You might try “Irrigation  Futures” 2005  with QJ Wang the leader.  The work 
> involved extensive use of open space over 8 months with focus groups meeting 
> every second week.
>  
> The scenarios developed have significantly changes

Re: [OSList] Government community engagement

[R Chaffe via OSList]

You might try “Irrigation  Futures” 2005  with QJ Wang the leader.  The work 
involved extensive use of open space over 8 months with focus groups meeting 
every second week.

The scenarios developed have significantly changes the way the community 
conducts its conversations by being very inclusive and ensuring that there are 
more than one path to the future, then as the drivers change the community has 
already developed tactics to ensure sustainability.

After the 2009 fires in Victoria where over 150 people were killed and too many 
whole communities and towns wiped out.  Where OS principles were followed the 
recovery has been much more sustainable and positive.  Note it is not an 
example of OS technology as being the only way or that the technology was used 
in its pure form far from it.  What we see now is over reaction by the public 
sector to establish infrastructure that is not used and has become a massive 
burden to the Local Government.  This was done using controlling techniques.

After the fires in south west Victoria a couple of years ago it was found that 
the most successful process to gather and share data and information including 
gaining consensus was what they called a sausage sizzle.  It is OS principles 
in action.  Create a space that attracts people, leave it open so that any 
issue can be discussed, make sure the law of mobility is applied, create space 
for the bees and butterflies,  when it starts is when it starts when it is over 
it is over and what is done is all that can be done.  In this case the 
organisers ensured that at each sausage sizzle there were a number of people 
who could offer “expert advice” or support ie professional who were prepared to 
listen and from time to time interject topics for conversation.  From each 
event notes were taken to form the framework of community action.  I don’t 
think this has been written up but I have proposed the idea to Rotary 
International to be its basis for response to natural and other disasters.  The 
sausage sizzle site were close to the regular gathering point, in this case the 
local livestock market place.  A normal gathering site.  This is critical as it 
reflects a tendency to hold onto the past that has been destroyed by the “fire” 
in this case.

In your situation I suggest it is perfect and would form the basis of training 
people in effective gatherings by teaching the OS principles,  which really are 
about listening to what is is in front of head of those who are part of the 
conversation.

Please get back to me if you think I can help.  Note the Irrigation Futures 
Project was regarded as Exemplary by external evaluators principally because of 
the staff including me as the facilitator.  It was also said it would be very 
difficult to reproduce due to the need of a highly skilled team, the time 
allowed two years and the budget $4.5 million.  We were dealing with and 
industry that was valued at over 2 billion dollars annually with 85% of the 
products produced exported from Australia.  That is. VERY important part of the 
economy where the cost represented less than 1% of the annual worth.  Public 
bodies do not like spending money on facilitation even with this exemplary 
example.

I also used open space to debrief Incident Management teams to being the 
process of healing and minimise post traumatic incident syndrome.  It still is 
one of the best ever and it was almost our open space.  The cost of fighting 
the fires and primary recovery cost in 2003 exceeded $100 million and impacted 
on 1/6th of the state of Victoria.  In this case only one life was lost and 
virtually no significant infrastructure was lost in Victoria.  We can conclude 
it was a significant event that was well managed with minimal collateral damage!

Regards
Rob

> On 6 Jun 2019, at 12:54 pm, Eric M. Kapono via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Aloha all,
> I’m looking for references to a similar situation (more below) where OS was 
> the contributing factor of success, in particular to communicate to 
> government and community leaders here why OS will get the results they need.
>  
> The context is the community engagement piece of recovery efforts from the 
> 2018 volcano eruption in Hawaii. I’m consulting with the County Recovery 
> Manager, who has been convening other types of gatherings much of this year. 
> Now that disaster relief funding is closer to being on the ground, the County 
> wants to convene a larger, multi-sector event, to encourage development of 
> community-based recovery actions. The County is also planning to have a 
> Disaster Recovery Fund setup, which would field a competitive process for 
> proposed projects, some of which may have convened in the larger event and 
> decided there to collaborate on a proposal.
>  
> As with other parts of the recovery effort, this event would be under public 
> scrutiny. It may be the largest event they’ve held, and County leadership is 
> worried of perceptions and actual results 

Re: [OSList] OST as a way to go in addressing climate change and other perils

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Alan,
Peter Sandman would say that until the hazard and outrage are balanced in the 
community of concern dialogue is not really possible.  The issue at the moment 
may be summarised as the hazard associated with climate change is academic to 
the majority of the community,  in particular the right wing of the community 
denying the scientific evidence.  Even science itself.  Ie No hazard, no 
outrage therefore no issue. 

The answer to your core question is that Open Space is perhaps the only way to 
address such a complex and systematic issue.  Open Space technology is one of 
the better tools to use to create situations where dialogue may be achieved and 
where the classic adversarial situation minimised or avoided.

The irony is that opening the space would be an ideal way of getting the 
community to the point that they are ready to work seriously on this major 
issue.

I have used Open Space technology very effectively to explore our preparedness 
for climate change and the massive investment required in infrastructure to 
facilitate innovation and adaption.  It has taken 12 years, far too slow but 
this is the current reality.

It is again time to try and try again.

Regards
Rob

> On 16 Apr 2019, at 7:05 pm, Alan Stewart via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> G’day from Downunder again
> 
> To express my appreciation for the responses received to my missive of 13 
> April 1919 about this topic. They were all offline. Mainly from people who 
> know me personally from our meetings during times and places since my being 
> an OST facilitator, starting in 1994.
> 
> Including this: “Great idea Alan. I look forward to hearing what response you 
> get. I am so ‘over’ the alternatives (commonly called ‘summits’ or ‘round 
> tables’ (which might be ‘round’ in name only), where the regular suspects 
> talk ‘at’ each other.
> 
>  Open Space, open invitation, is really the way to go with such a complex 
> question.”
>  
> 
> And who have offered sage suggestions, such as:
> 
> Delete all references to myself and how I came up with the idea. 
> 
> Instead state clearly in as few words as possible, viz 'the juicy' parts 
> about:
> 
> What do I suggest?
> 
> What could the proposed action possibly achieve?
> 
> What will be the details?
> 
> 
> 
> One responder wonders if the way of using OST I am suggesting could only be 
> done at a national government level; a fair query, in my opinion.
> 
> Nonetheless what I will go ahead in proposing is to have an OST based 
> gathering with the backing of a State’s ‘Climate Body’. In this instance 
> South Australia.
> 
> Together with the local organizers of ‘School Strikers’ as the 'auspicers' to 
> invite representatives of some main 'constituents' to participate in a 2.5 
> day OST event I the manner I had outlined earlier.
> 
> And so I will go ahead with the basic initiative as spelled in my note to our 
> List of a few days ago.
> 
> On the premise that ‘whatever happens …’   
> 
> To be despatched shortly after the forthcoming Easter weekend. 
> 
> 
> 
> Before doing this I would ask you again: Do you have any thoughts on my 
> proposed way of using OST which you reckon could strengthen the likelihood of 
> its being acted upon?
> 
> Looking forward.
> 
> 
> 
> Al  
> 
> Al (formerly Alan) Stewart, PhD
> Process Artist 
> Facilitator of conversations that matter and participatory fun
> 
> Senior Fulbright Scholar
> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
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> With time away in the USA (1981) and Hong Kong (2005-2011)  
> 
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> 
>  
> 
> "Whenever we treat each other well good things happen."
> 
> Al Stewart
> 
> “Be yourself.  And be it well”  
> 
> PS You may also be inspired – and alarmed – by the recent contribution from 
> Bill McKibben to this most vital concern of our times. See his new book 
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Re: [OSList] Scaling up OL & ST + certification workshop

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Harrison
You challenged my memory and I agree totally with your comment.  My mind was 
taken back to a level 300 course I took in Agricultural Extension and part of 
the competencies developed was to discover the various tools used in 
Agricultural Extension / Community engagement and about that time people were 
expressing the importance of participatory processes.  In an indirect way I 
received credit for discovering the Institute of Cultural Affairs and the 
processes they were using.  This is part of the prehistory of what became known 
as Open Space Technology.  

A student may gain credit for exploring or even using Open Space and is an 
indirect way of gaining academic recognition of Open Space!

Regards
Rob

> On 10 Apr 2019, at 3:00 am, Harrison Owen via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Anthi… For 30+ years Open Space have been free for the using. There has never 
> been any sort of certification or fee. It (OS) is FREE. I don’t know what it 
> is you are offering, but if it is Certification In Open Space… that is really 
> odd. Nobody has done that. I couldn’t do that. Never have. And Won’t.
>  
> Harrison
>  
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Re: [OSList] OST as a way to go in addressing climate change perils

[R Chaffe via OSList]

“Bad things happen when good people do nothing! “ I would hope that the new 
generation is openly seeking ways to better interact and engage their fellows 
so that they can learn and discover the shared knowledge,skills, attitudes and 
aspirations.

Regards
Rob

> On 21 Feb 2019, at 11:38 am, Jan Hoglund via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> 'They', the school kids, don't need OST? They will move forward regardless! 
> It's 'we', the old people, who need to open the space. Just a thought...
> 
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Re: [OSList] OST as a way to go in addressing climate change and other perils

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Alan,
It is time for us to think why has the system rejected action on dealing with 
human influences on climate?

I suggest that we might think of the opportunities ie money making things for 
the greedy,  that the current and projected climate in our area of operation?

Somehow the wider community needs to face the current reality.  So far there 
have been a suite of threats thrown at the community with very few 
opportunities apparently.

The ABC (National Public Broadcasting organisation in Australia) reported that 
based on the current investment over 60% of reticulated power will come from 
wind farms.  Some people have read the tea leaves and invested heavily in wind 
power as the area in Victoria covered by very high voltage distribution power 
lines just happen to pass through an area where increased wind is predicted in 
some of the new climate models.  Good news and who knows and who cares?

I am sure there must be similar stories around the world, might we use this 
list the make March a celebration of things being done to make the best 
sustainable use of the current climate and reduce green house waste?  

We then could use our shared experience to validate positive action to work 
with nature and reduce our pollution and unsustainable practices!

What do you think?

Regards
Rob

> On 19 Feb 2019, at 10:36 am, Alan Stewart via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
>  G’day Fellow Spaceniks and other Kindred Spirits
> 
> The items below may be of interest to you.
> 
> They are about the looming perils of climate change and associated ways to 
> consider and act on them, recently come to my attention.
> 
> I have followed such matters keenly since I attended a presentation by James 
> Hansen while living in Hong Kong a decade ago. 
> 
> 
> 
> My question: Could bringing Open Space Technology (OST) approaches be a vital 
> means to address constructively the issues we face as global humanity in the 
> now Anthropocene with its perils and opportunities?
> 
> See:
> 
> Opinion | Time to Panic - The New York Times
> 
>  
> 
> Using Open Space to address climate change matters
> 
> https://jembendell.wordpress.com/2019/02/08/deep-adaptation-retreat-uk-2019/
> 
>  
> 
> We need to have a paradigm shift in how we view society and life.
> 
> https://americanminion.blog/2018/12/16/we-need-a-paradigm-shift/  
> 
> Also: Fourth National Climate Change Assessment
> 
> 
> 
> (To add:  Here is a report, entitled Vision, Values and Vibes which 
> illustrates my credentials as a Spacenik!) 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> Tall orders indeed! Yet are there any means at hand other than OST with its 
> underpinning premises and highly practical approaches to addressing complex 
> issues - now needed urgently to create a viable living for succeeding 
> generations of we humans and other inhabitants of our tiny, fragile planet 
> home?
> 
> With young people, particularly school children, crying out for necessary 
> action: 
> 
> https://www.euronews.com/2019/02/07/this-is-the-climate-generation-thousands-of-students-join-netherlands-protest
> 
> Next such events are happening all around Australia on March 15, 2019. 
> 
> 
> 
> To conclude:
> 
> While I feel a need and associated responsibility – given the particular 
> experiencing I have had over nigh on eight decades of being an earthly 
> denizen (including participating in seven 'World Open Space on Open Space' 
> gatherings, beginning in 1998) - to bring these perspectives to your notice …
> 
> It is, in my mind, for you younger Spaceniks to make what you will of them. 
> Given that what I have drawn attention to here is likely only another way of 
> expressing what you are already aware of.  
> 
> Bearing in mind that,  as with great works of art, "Which cannot be taken in 
> at a glance" Linguist I.A. Richards, so it will be in your grand adventuring 
> ahead.  
> 
> Looking forward, indeed.
> 
>  
> 
> Al  
> 
> Al (formerly Alan) Stewart, PhD
> Process Artist 
> Facilitator of conversations that matter and participatory fun
> 
> Senior Fulbright Scholar
> 
> Blog:  www.conversare.net
> 
> Member:  American Society for Cybernetics
> 
> Member: National Trouble Makers Union
> 
> Residence: Adelaide, South Australia, since 1975 
> With time away in the USA (1981) and Hong Kong (2005-2011)  
> 
> _
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Whenever we treat each other well good things happen."
> Al Stewart
> 
> 
> 
> PS. If you feel in need of inspiration, you may wish to look out for  - 
> perhaps through your local library - a book of photographs entitled 'The 
> Family of Man'. "The greatest photographic exhibition of all time ..." 
> 
> This was published in the early 1950s. And was subsequently exhibited in many 
> countries. I saw one of these, at age 14, in what is now Harare in Zimbabwe. 
> It had a profound influence on me. 
> 
> You may also find this little story to be uplifting. ☺
> 
> 
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Re: [OSList] Report From The Field

[R Chaffe via OSList]

A great reference is a song from the King and I, “getting to know you..”
Once you get to know the potential participants you will know how to phrase 
your invitation.  The song continues “getting to know all about you”.   To do 
this you need to probe with observation (you have two eyes) and questions (one 
mouth) use your senses in the proportion they are given you ie twice as much 
listening to talking!

As Harrison said in one of his first books the drums start and stop, then start 
and stop probing the audience and then when the question and the time is right 
someone will reply and others join in.  As we think about an event we must 
context it in the current reality, the event or basic question might be very 
important to us but until it s important to others very little real work can be 
done.

Peter Sandman has a simple equation Risk = hazard by outrage.  Look it up on 
the web. Basically Peter suggests that until our interest or outrage is closely 
related to the actual hazard in question we struggle to achieve dialogue.  
Dialogue is critical to success in most enterprises, I would say all but there 
is an exception somewhere I am sure, all arguments in complex systems are not 
very helpful.

Best of luck in “Getting to know you, getting to know all about you...”.
Note the lyrics of the King and I and South Pacific are well worth reading they 
expose the difficulties of relationships and explore what success looks like.  
We worth the effort. 

Regards
Rob

> On 10 Jan 2019, at 12:47 pm, Michael Herman via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Daniel... "misses the mark" ...i meant any time you issue an invitation and 
> don't get what you wanted or expected.  The option is always there to try to 
> understand whatever happened, make adjustments, try again.  before or after 
> the event.  it's all an experiment, an exploration.
>  
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> 
>> On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 2:30 PM John Watkins via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> Chris,
>> 
>> Oops. Yes. Sorry, my mistake. 
>> 
>> It’s also a “multi-ontological” framework. I love the variety of ways that 
>> are emerging that show us that we can push back to our choices around the 
>> “beingness”’of our work and not just the “doingness”’of it. 
>> 
>> John W
>> 
>> Sent from John's iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 9, 2019, at 12:24 PM, Chris Corrigan  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Probe-Sense-Respond, actually. At least for complex problems. 
>>> 
>>> Cynefin is actually a decision making framework that points to the kinds of 
>>> ways of showing up depending on the type of problem you’re facing. 
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> _
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>>> www.chriscorrigan.com
>>> 
 On Jan 9, 2019, at 11:03 AM, john watkins via OSList 
  wrote:
 
 As Dave Snowden says, in his Cynefin framework, in complex spaces, the 
 leader’s role is to “probe, categorize, and respond (and practice is 
 emergent);” whereas, in the chaotic space, the work is to “act, sense, and 
 respond (and practice is always novel).” Probing can often be a “safe to 
 fail experiment.” It would seem that, even in a space where the broader 
 political leadership is as negative as we are experiencing now, within our 
 own contexts, we must still build pioneering communities, to use Margaret 
 Wheatley’s phrase, and open space seems ideally suited to both the 
 response to complexity and the response to chaos, to help with that 
 co-construction…
 
 John W.
 
> On Jan 9, 2019, at 8:55 AM, Harrison Owen via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Mark may be odd (I plead Guilty too) – but he does speak from a place of 
> practical engagement. Otherwise known as, “in the trenches.” Not always 
> pretty, but definitely where the rubber meets the road…
>  
> “Chaos is alive and well and now, fed by resistance, is a different 
> animal for facilitators as ill intent looms large. If one's goal as 
> leader is to obstruct, defame, ridicule, and act to prevent progress of 
> any kind so as to counter any credibility for your co-leaders, then it is 
> impossible.  That is America today and it makes honest attempts at system 
> improvement challenging to say the least. In any organization the 
> leadership MUST embrace the power of collaboration and system 
> improvement.  There are a lot of really well run governments where the 
> honest leaders seek to inspire positive improvements, continuously.  In 
> the great USofA we have a significant leadership crisis where mutually 
> assured self destruction is taking place.”
> (Mark Carmel – quoted without permission)
>  
> I would guess that we need to keep opening space – wherever, however, 
> about whatever… but we sure need some breathing room. The details of 
> “solution” are more than any of us can provide, 

Re: [OSList] Opening Space for Peace & High Performance and WOSonOS 2019 in the USA

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Harold you just need to keep beating the drum and most of all listen to the 
replies, when it is the right time it will happen.

Regards
Rob

> On 2 Jan 2019, at 3:38 pm, Harold Shinsato via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> Thanks for asking about the dates and location for WOSonOS 2019 in the 
> Washington, D.C. general area. We are actively investigating options. The 
> preferred date is October 25-27, but until we secure everything, we can't 
> send out the registration. We hope it will come soon. We can't let it out 
> until it's in! We will as soon as we have it, believe it!
> 
> Regards,
> Harold
> 
>> On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 6:51 AM Michael M Pannwitz via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> Dear Harold,
>> 
>> thanks for the good wishes, may the rest of 2019 be fortuitous and happy 
>> for you and me and whoever reads this.
>> 
>> Every year for many years, I melancholically gaze at the invitation to 
>> the New York event... without going. This year again I will not be 
>> partaking, shucks!
>> 
>> But, behold, here is what I definitely plan:
>> WOSonOS 2019 in October in the Washington DC area.
>> The travel Piggy Bank is set up.
>> 
>> What really will help me to keep it in mind and focus on it is the DATES 
>> and, if available, the VENUE. I heard you are one of those in the know, 
>> right?
>> 
>> Let it out!
>> 
>> Greetings from Berlin
>> mmp
>> 
>> Am 31.12.2018 um 23:40 schrieb Harold Shinsato via OSList:
>> > Happy New Year All!
>> > 
>> > Hope you'll join us for our annual NYC Open Space at Columbia's 
>> > International House, just before MLK day, Jan 18-20.
>> > 
>> > http://osius.org/peace-high-performance-2019
>> > 
>> > Warm Regards,
>> > Harold
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Re: [OSList] canadian tables

[R Chaffe via OSList]

You can always go outside and write/draw in the sand, dirt or snow.   Perhaps 
it is a good exercise to plan for the agenda to be temporary and the 
participants asked to take responsibility for remembering the agenda they wish 
to run with.

Yes quite a challenge and one we often delegate to others!  

Regards
Rob

> On 4 Dec 2018, at 7:20 am, Jeff Aitken via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> I sent a photo of Chris Corrigan in Canada with Canadian Tables ! but the 
> file size sent it to the list moderator.
> 
> Portable tables are set up on their ends to make 2 meter tall portable walls 
> perfect for os agenda making!
> 
> Jeff
> San Francisco
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Dec 3, 2018, 11:50 AM David Osborne via OSList 
>> > As a Canadian I have to ask. What are “Canadian Tables”?
>> 
>> Let me know and my best to all.
>> 
>> David
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 3, 2018, at 11:33 AM, Doris Gottlieb via OSList 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Eva,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for that lovely note. I have used Canadian Tables a few times and I 
>>> am so glad that way back when there were so many great OST facilitators who 
>>> discovered these ways to keep space open.
>>> 
>>> With love,
>>> 
>>> Doris
>>> 
 On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 3:28 PM Eva P Svensson via OSList 
  wrote:
 Hi all,
 Long time no see or post from me - but I really need to say that for the 
 first time since about 20 years with Open Space I had the chance to use 
 ”Canadian tables” when I worked at the Royal Opera house in Stockholm - 
 and you could tell that there was NO way to put tape on the walls. Worked 
 great of course :-)
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Re: [OSList] Happy Birthday Harrison!

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Harrison my very best wishes for both a happy birthday and a year of good 
health and good cheer.  Keep warm and we look forward to your contributions on 
the list

God bless

Rob

> On 2 Dec 2018, at 2:19 pm, Chris Corrigan via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Many happy returns Harrison.  Happy returns to Maine, to Open Space, to this 
> community that loves you, to the people you cherish.  May you stop for a 
> moment today to feel the love and respect and admiration coming your way.
> 
> Chris
> 
>> On Dec 1, 2018, at 6:29 PM, Suzanne Daigle via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Dear Harrison,
>> 
>> Posted this pic on Open Space Facebook!  Sharing it here.  With love and 
>> life gratitude, wishing you a magical "be prepared to be surprised" day!
>> 
>> With love and many hugs,
>> Suzanne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [OSList] conversation & listening in Pittsburgh

[R Chaffe via OSList]

The current wisdom is that an open space is critical to allow people to respond 
to a change in circumstances (sometimes catastrophic some incremental).

In emergency response.  As part of my working life for almost 30 years I was a 
critical part of professional emergence response “incident management team” 
(the back room people who coordinate to action part of emergency response).  
The critical component was listening to people and including them, or their 
needs etc, in the visible response.

Recently some work was done to evaluate the “best” way to support a community 
as they began the process of recovery from an emergency, in this case a very 
rapidly moving wild fire.  The key finding was a sausage sizzle where the 
community of concern could come and get a free sausage.  At the spot there was 
a person who was available to listen and pass on the latest news or processes 
regarding the recovery process.   He site often included a coffee.  So you have 
a pop up cafe where you can get the latest “news” or just chat.

The “just chat” is critical as the implication is that others are seriously 
listening and are seriously taking action to deal with issues and opportunities 
(now where have I heard that before?).

We might immediately recognise this as an Open Space hot spot.   The best part 
is it is not a hand out other than a cup of coffee and a sausage.  The reports 
are that these spots became critical gathering places and quite a challenge to 
retain the respect and openness.   This is where we can help.

The saddest site in recent memory is the survivors from a natural disaster 
returning to the same site for their hand out 25 years on.  

The lesson is the hot spots must remain just that.  The capacity and capability 
required to rebuild and move on must remain with the community.

It is so easy for others to compromise the open spot and corrupt the work to 
create interdependence.  This is the mission, should you choose to accept it, 
keep the Open spaces open! (I thin someone else has though of this phrase 
before me, tank you  )



Regards
Rob

> On 2 Nov 2018, at 11:31 am, Skye Hirst via OSList 
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> 
> Thx Lucas this is great!!!
> 
>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 7:51 PM Lucas Cioffi via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> Hello Tricia,
>> 
>> I lived in Charlottesville during the race-based violence of 2017.  A few 
>> weeks afterwards, I held listening circles in the public space downtown.  
>> Here are the notes and lessons learned that I and the other organizers 
>> compiled, and those notes might be helpful for your organizing.
>> 
>> To provide a sense of what this looks like here's a photo of the news 
>> coverage, and here is a blog post with photos of where I did something very 
>> similar in 2015 (opening space with 4 chairs).  Coincidentally this was 
>> right where the car drove into the crowd of people counter-protesting the 
>> alt-right rally in 2017.
>> 
>> Our thoughts and prayers are with you and your community.
>> 
>> Lucas Cioffi
>> Hastings on Hudson, NY
>> 917-528-1831
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 5:48 PM Tricia Chirumbole via OSList 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Hi all!
>>> 
>>> My friends and I are holding daily conversation & listening spaces on the 
>>> streets near the Tree of LIfe Synagogue in Pittsburgh, PA where the mass 
>>> shooting occurred this past Saturday .
>>> 
>>> We are looking to establish a basic set of agreements and intentions for 
>>> listening and dialogue - both for alignment among our core team, and 
>>> highlights to post on signs and website for our volunteers and those who 
>>> stop by. 
>>> 
>>> We are promoting an open space to welcome people as they are , and want to 
>>> provide compassion-fueled support and listening and avoid closing people 
>>> down or getting embroiled in any negativity or political discourse.   
>>> 
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Re: [OSList] Marking a New National/Regional Educational Policy -examples of Open Space meeting being set up?

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Harrison right on the core of the issue.  One thing that may help is to locate 
the OS event at a well used local meeting place and to ensure that “coffee and 
finger food snacks” are available at a reasonable cost.  It also helps if the 
food is what the groups would normally expect at a meeting.  I have conducted 
OS meetings in all sorts of spaces,  they have been spaces where the 
participants feel comfortable!

Create the space and the people will come!

Regards
Rob

> On 31 Oct 2018, at 5:57 am, Harrison Owen via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Simple answer: The right people will be anybody who cares. And you can really 
> only tell that they care when they come. Law of Two Feet.
>  
> So get the word out everywhere. Parents, grandparents, uncles, aunts, 
> janitors, cooks, grounds keepers, taxi drivers, bus operators, ship captains, 
> crew, police, fire people… If they care – They will come. And for sure they 
> will be the right people. Works every time.
>  
> Harrison
>  
> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of 
> Ingibjorg Gisladottir via OSList
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> Cc: Ingibjorg Gisladottir
> Subject: [OSList] Marking a New National/Regional Educational Policy 
> -examples of Open Space meeting being set up?
>  
> Dear OS community
>  
> Can anyone lead me to examples of where OS has been used in the making of 
> Educational Policy of a nation/state/community?
>  
> I think it is important to invite children, teenagers, highschool/university 
> students and young people who are recently out of school to the 
> conversations. . ..but who else should be there?  
>  
> Your insights on this and experience is appreciated if you have the 
> possibility to share it with me.  
>  
> All the best
>  
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Re: [OSList] Help needed - survey design - State of OST

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Harold,
Jess Dart is skilled and very qualified in this area as to is Bob Dick.

Both these people will want to know “what success will look like?”  Both have 
extensive contacts in the academic world.

Regards
Rob

> On 19 Oct 2018, at 7:05 am, Harold Shinsato via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dear Open Space List,
> 
> The Open Space Institute of the U.S. has had as part of our mission to 
> support research in Open Space. We have discussed research for years, but now 
> we hope to initiate a research project and we are asking support from the 
> community to help us design a survey to send out to Open Space practitioners 
> around the world. A State of Open Space Technology survey. We hope this could 
> be an annual survey.
> 
> Why a "State of Open Space Technology" survey?
> 
> Surveys are a helpful and inexpensive way to conduct research which has been 
> validated by the sciences. So this is effectively a research project. It also 
> helps us know ourselves in an interesting way. It can also help promote 
> awareness about how Open Space Technology is being effectively used around 
> the world, and hopefully spread that awareness beyond those who are already 
> using it. The research can help make it safer for more people to open space.
> 
> Surveys as valid research?
> 
> We are basing this on the effective use of surveys in the technology world. 
> The following two surveys have been an essential part of the process of both 
> spreading the world and in helping promote self-awareness for adopters in the 
> world of Agile Software Development. Specificially through the State of Agile 
> survey hosted by VersionOne https://stateofagile.versionone.com, which has 
> been happening for 13 years, and more importantly through the State of DevOps 
> survey (https://puppet.com/resources/whitepaper/state-of-devops-report). This 
> State of DevOps survey was the topic of what Martin Fowler, one of the 
> signatories of the Agile Manifesto, calls the most important book of 2018. 
> Namely, "Accelerate: The Science of Lean Software and DevOps". Accelerate's 
> first author is social scientist Dr. Nicole Forsgren. The book has a chapter 
> that helps validate the science behind effective survey design.
> 
> How can you help?
> 
> None of the OSI-US's Board hold PhD's that could help us effectively design a 
> survey. But maybe you are. Or you know someone who might be. Or maybe you 
> have contacts into a University setting. Although the OSI-US does not have a 
> great deal of funds, we do have some and this would fit as a proper project. 
> Will you let us know of any possible candidates that could help us design a 
> survey?
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help!
> 
> Regards,
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Re: [OSList] List of some participants for this years WOSonOS in Iceland

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Michael, please remember  those who will be there in spirit as I am sure there 
are many of us who just cannot be in Iceland whose thoughts and for some, their 
prayers are with you.  Iceland is right at the visible cutting edge of the 
impact of climate change.  If there is a time that we should be working 
together for our planet it is now.  As far as I am concerned the drums are 
beating and calling out, almost demanding we act in an unconditional way to 
bring about sustainable change.  

Regards
Rob

> On 9 Oct 2018, at 6:47 pm, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Good news!
> Added Michal from Poland to the list I am compiling.
> It now has 24 from 8 countries:
> 
> Iceland (3)
> Kari Gunnarson
> Ingibjörg Gísladóttir
> Hróbjartur Árnason
> 
> Sweden (3)
> Thomas Herrmann
> Eva P Svensson
> Ulrika Eklund
> 
> Netherlands (8)
> Leandra Gouw
> Lois van der Hoeven
> Jane de Bakker
> Dere van Velzen
> Jody van der Jagt
> Camiel Naus
> Rick Bastiaanssen
> Tonnie van der Zouwen
> 
> Germany (4)
> Anna Caroline Türk
> Bettina Lobenberg
> Eda Ursula Maurer
> Bianca Sukrow
> 
> Poland (1)
> Michal Szpor
> 
> Canada (1)
> Doug Marteinson
> 
> United States of America (2)
> Harold Shinsanto
> Douglas German
> 
> China (2)
> Song Qinghua
> Hulu Chen
> 
> There are rumors that many more have signed up. If you have signed up and 
> also want to be seen on this list, let me know.
> If you have not signed up, well, think about it!
> 
> Greetings from Berlin
> mmp
> 
>> Am 09.10.2018 um 02:58 schrieb Kári Gunnarsson via OSList:
>>  hi all
>>  Now it is less then 2 weeks until our Wosonos gathering in Iceland
>>  Michal Szpor from Poland sends his greetings, he will be at
>>  Wosonos in Iceland. I am looking forward to meet him and you all.
>> There were amazing northern lights displaces (Aurora borealis) yesterday 
>> night as i was going out of my car at home in Reykjavik city. I hope that 
>> the ones we have while Wosonos will also be as amazing.
>> I looked it up at the national aurora forecast, and it was very stron, 
>> figure 6! that is amazing display.
>> https://en.vedur.is/weather/forecasts/aurora/
>> Winter is upon us in Iceland now, so bring out the winter clothing! You 
>> don't want to catch cold staring at the green lights in the sky
>> with love from Iceland
>> Kári
>> On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 8:22 PM Kári Gunnarsson > > wrote:
>>Hey from Iceland
>>We already have 46 registration for the conference, 11 registration
>>from Iceland and 35 from other places, registration is still open!
>>Join us in Iceland 2018 for October 22-24 with a registration at
>>https://events.artegis.com/event/WOSonOS_2018
>>**//___^
>>Looking forward to seeing you all!
>>On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 11:10 AM Hulu Chen via OSList
>>>> wrote:
>>Hi Michael,
>>I hope this message finds you well!
>>Folks from China don’t want to be missed out - Just so you know
>>Ms Song Qinghua and I (Hulu Chen) are going as well :)
>>Look forward to seeing some of you soon in Iceland.
>>Cheers,
>>Hulu
>> > On 1 Oct 2018, at 08:40, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList
>>>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Dear Harold,
>> >
>> > grand!
>> >
>> > The current status of this growing list at this point shows
>>20 folks
>> >
>> > Iceland (3)
>> > Kari Gunnarson
>> > Ingibjörg Gísladóttir
>> > Hróbjartur Árnason
>> >
>> > Sweden (3)
>> > Thomas Herrmann
>> > Eva P Svensson
>> > Ulrika Eklund
>> >
>> > Netherlands (8)
>> > Leandra Gouw
>> > Lois van der Hoeven
>> > Jane de Bakker
>> > Dere van Velzen
>> > Jody van der Jagt
>> > Camiel Naus
>> > Rick Bastiaanssen
>> > Tonnie van der Zouwen
>> >
>> > Germany (4)
>> > Anna Caroline Türk
>> > Bettina Lobenberg
>> > Eda Ursula Maurer
>> > Bianca Sukrow
>> >
>> > Canada (1)
>> > Doug Marteinson
>> >
>> > United States of America (1)
>> > Harold Shinsanto
>> >
>> > Those others going and wanting to be on this "semipublic"
>>list, just let me know (via OSLIST or directly).
>> > May it help you to be in touch even before the event... for
>>whatever reason (many of those on the list can also be seen in
>>the World Map with lots of contact data).
>> >
>> > Have a great week
>> > Greetings from Berlin
>> > mmp
>> >
>> >
>> >> Am 01.10.2018 um 03:48 schrieb Harold Shinsato via OSList:
>> >> Just got my flight last night. I’ll be there too.
>> >> -Harold
>> >> On Sun, 

Re: [OSList] Hello Iceland!

[R Chaffe via OSList]

I too have reached a point where long distance travel is physically very 
difficult.  May I also send my greetings from down under and may you all know 
that the virtual world awaits your stories, insights and ideas.

Regards
Rob

> On 1 Oct 2018, at 10:35 pm, Harrison Owen via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> How wonderful to hear of the assembled group! I am only sorry that I can’t be 
> with you. But truth to tell my long haul ravel days are over. I have been 
> many wonderful places with extraordinary people, but all good things do have 
> to come to an end. So I send you my very best… to say nothing of love and 
> kisses!!
>  
> Harrison
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Re: [OSList] [OpenSpaceTechnologyTaiwan] online open space-ish government?

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Thanks Gail, 
It seems that even with your extensive experience and very productive meetings 
that OS is not easily adopted at higher levels of Government.

Regards
Rob

> On 13 Sep 2018, at 4:08 pm, Gail West via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Shufang Tsai 
> 
> I want to share some of my experience in facilitating open participation in 
> Taiwan.
> ---
> Last night we invite  a  friend from the government  to share her experience  
> about “Join-Public policy network participation platform”.
> To let NPOs know how it operate  and   how will the gov response. (It's an  
> event  of our  Nettuesday.)
> 
> I  would say vTaiwan demonstrated how a virtual   platform  can  support  and 
> facilitate croudsourcing. 
> People  are  expecting for way  to convene and contribute.
> 
> I  was  involved  in  one petition  from "Join", watching how government  
> start to contact with the  convener  after  5000 people vote. 
> (The rule said  gov.  need to connect with the convener, and  publish  the 
> result in the  plateform.)
> 
> I was  invited  to facilitate an ost for people  who care  about the  issues, 
> before  they  go to  meet with  the gov.
> Because  they want to  connect  with each other, and they want  gov  to know  
>  people  care.
> 
> In  this case,  it's  a  new  issue  never  been dealed  before.
> The  response  from the  gov is  positive, they invite  experts,  convener , 
> other  stakeholder  to meet  and  discuss.
> 
> Our society has lots  passion  after  Sunflower  movement, 
> many opensource people get  involved   in vTaiwan at that  time.
> It's not  so active now.
> "Join " is  a  new  way  to ask the gov  to step  in. to  reply  to people's  
> inqury.
> Not much  conversation  like  the article  mentioned  in vTaiwan before.
> 
> Yet  those are  new experience  still under going.
> We are  all learning how  to be part of the  chaging world.
> 
> shufang
> 
>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 11:59 AM Gail West icat...@gmail.com 
>> [OpenSpaceTechnologyTaiwan]  
>> wrote:
>> Can someone provide some further comments in response to this from Michael?  
>> There seems to be an increasing interest in what's happening here from many 
>> different sources?  Good to share.  Gail
>> 
>> 
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Michael Herman via OSList 
>> Date: Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 10:25 PM
>> Subject: [OSList] online open space-ish government?
>> To: OSLIST 
>> Cc: Michael Herman 
>> 
>> 
>> this maybe interesting and encouraging.  maybe our friends in taiwan will be 
>> able to say more about it?  
>> 
>> https://www.technologyreview.com/s/611816/the-simple-but-ingenious-system-taiwan-uses-to-crowdsource-its-laws/
>> --
>> 
>> Michael Herman
>> Michael Herman Associates
>> 312-280-7838 (mobile)
>> 
>> http://MichaelHerman.com
>> http://OpenSpaceWorld.org
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Gail West, ICA
>> 3F, No. 12, Lane 5, Tien Mou W Rd
>> Taipei, Taiwan 111
>> Ph) 8862) 2871-3150
>> email) icat...@gmail.com
>> Skype) gwestica
>> www.icatw.com
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Re: [OSList] A Question About Safety

[R Chaffe via OSList]

The comments take me in two directions.  Under our State’s laws we are mandated 
to report bullying, Violet behaviour of any kind, victimisation and racism.   
This law is a minefield for organisers and to groups like the Roman Catholic 
Church that take “confessions” where the issue of confidentially arises.  The 
clear direction from the wider community is that it has a very low level of 
tolerance to violence both physically and mentally.

If safety of the place is an issue then it is up to the community of concern to 
raise it and discuss it as they would any other topic.  The space is opened to 
raise issues and concerns relating to a particular question.  The issue for me 
is that if the whole gathering wants to discuss this issue/ opportunity.  As a 
facilitator I feel obliged to advise the gathering that in the limited time 
available groups of 7 work best as everyone can have their say.  In such cases 
I have asked if there are some sub issues/opportunities that we could work on 
as part of the bigger question regarding the bigger topic. So far it has worked 
well and we have generated engaging conversation revealing some very good ideas 
and issues that the group reported they had never thought of.  I regarded this 
as a good outcome.

It has nearly got to the point that we are seriously considering how we remind 
people of the State laws.  It is confronting as I operate out of respect to 
others and expect this same value to be held by the people I work with.  It 
reminds me to test assumptions and have a plan to deal with antagonisms.  
Showing open and unconditional respect/love has worked well so far and I have 
dealt with some very serious issues.   When dealing with a situation where 
deadly man traps was involved my colleague used the unconditional respect 
pathway and the results were spectacularly good.  We felt that as we applied a 
non judgmental approach the need to be adversarial was dissolved.

PS for those of us who know Ray Richmond there is an excellent program on the 
Sydney Wayside chapel of the Australia ABC iView.  Ray and his colleagues have 
done a spectacular job and a living example of unconditional love and respect.

Regards
Rob

> On 23 Aug 2018, at 8:31 pm, Anthi Theiopoulou via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello Sarah,
> 
> Very good question!
> 
> In SoL (Society for Organizational Learning if someone doesn’t know) we have 
> had the same dilemma (more rules to achieve higher levels of cooperation OR 
> more self-organisation to achieve higher levels of innovation?) for the last 
> 10 years. Just like you, Peter Senge also created a team to deal with it back 
> in 2009 which was named "Group25 for the evolution of SoL”. In the team we 
> created a governance sub-team (in which I was) to deal exactly and only with 
> this dilemma. We worked for almost 2 years (if I remember correctly) studying 
> all the various governance models that we could find (from Dee Hock’s 
> Chaordic Design to the EU governance model) but at the end we were not able 
> to provide an answer to this dilemma. The issue remains unresolved until 
> today... 
> 
> Warm greetings and best wishes,
> Anthi
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> MSc International Management
>  
> 
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>> On 23 Aug 2018, at 13:04, Sarah Grange via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The question of “Safe spaces” has come up recently in our regular OST 
>> programme, following some incidents where participants felt there was racism 
>> and transphobia at our big annual event. There was a request for more rules 
>> or guidelines, which we’ve resisted, but it’s a thorny old issue 

Re: [OSList] A Question About Safety

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Good question!
The stimulus to change is a critical component of the process.  Why change or 
why do anything if we do not have to do something.  The old saying “necessity 
is the mother of invention” or we could say the rate of change including 
adaption is directly proportional to the forces that initiated change.  Strong 
forces strong response.

The implication is that the situation may be too comfortable “safe”. It may be 
that it needs to be “safe” in order to get considered ideas from all at all 
levels.  If we use Maslow’s hierarchy of needs we conclude that a safe 
environment for meeting including the freedom of assembly (the law of mobility) 
is essential.

Conclusion we may raise difficult or unsafe issues as questions while we 
provide a safe open space for conversation and decision making.  We must feel 
we can contribute without fear or favour and we must feel free to contribute 
this in itself my be a definition of safety. My experience would say we need a 
safe place to deal with differences of opinion. 

In an emergency or incident control centre it is vital to have places where the 
staff can “retreat” from the hustle  and bustle of the emergency to regroup and 
deal with the current issues and opportunities. A safe place to deal with very 
unsafe situations.  It is the unsafe situations that bring the “experts” 
(community of concern) together, the more uncertain or unsafe the higher the 
levels of energy and drive.  It is therefore true to say the “safer” or lowest 
threat would generate an equally low level of response.  Too safe, too 
comfortable and less interest.

Peter Sandman talks about hazard being a factor of outrage and risk  where he 
states that we need a balanced level of both before we can discuss critical 
questions effectively.  Outrage with no risk no hazard, high risk but no 
outrage no hazard.  It is concluded that Peter says we need some discomfort or 
outrage before we are stimulated to engage with an issue, we can be too 
comfortable, complacent and so safe.

Regards
Rob

> On 21 Aug 2018, at 2:49 pm, David Osborne via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Greetings all, 
> 
> I have questions about safety related to self-organization I would love 
> others thoughts on. 
> 
> Is it possible for an environment can be too safe to support 
> self-organization? Can safety be at such a high level that it inhibits or 
> slows down the self-organizing process?
> 
> I'm very interested to hear others perspectives.
> 
> Best to all,
> 
> David
> 
> 
> David R. Osborne
> Organization and Leadership Development
> 
> 
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Re: [OSList] Is there experience in developing Open Space further in organizations and networks after the initial intervention

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Harrison, yes.  

On the other hand a client almost demanded that I increase my fee by 30%.  My 
comment was we had a contract and I intended to keep to the agreed cost.  The 
underlying issue was that my event had been so successful that it made other 
similar events look very expensive.  Yet all that happened was that the process 
gave voice to all present.


Rob

> On 13 Aug 2018, at 12:41 am, Harrison Owen via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Rob – you have identified one of the most curious aspects of dealing with 
> clients and/or potential clients regarding Open Space. It’s too simple. 
> Couldn’t possibly happen, and doesn’t cost enough. I had one (major) 
> corporate client who told me to double my fee otherwise, he said, he couldn’t 
> possibly get the contract through the front office. I did what he asked and 
> always felt rather guilty about it all. But he was very happy, and of course 
> the Open Space “worked” as usual. For obvious reasons all names are withheld 
> to protect the innocent and gullible J
>  
> ho
>  
> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of R 
> Chaffe via OSList
> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2018 10:02 PM
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> Cc: R Chaffe
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Is there experience in developing Open Space further in 
> organizations and networks after the initial intervention
>  
> Harrison, the process is so comfortable ie sitting in circles, speaking when 
> there is something to say, listening to others, keeping our minds open to 
> insights and differences etc.  Yes we do it all the time!  Therein lies an 
> issue for those looking for the “silver” bullet from “outside” as the promise 
> we can make is for an opportunity to explore issues and opportunities 
> associated with a particular question we have little control on what might 
> come and we have faith in the community of concern will have the best ways of 
> dealing with their concern.  Sometimes it is a “road to Damascus experience 
> and most of the time it is an insight that needs to be explored.   This 
> raises another issue for those who think the one meeting will be all that is 
> required and blindly race into the future thinking that change is something 
> that others do.  Opening the space is more a process than an event and seeing 
> / believing in this is one of the main stays of Open Space along with the 
> faith that within the community of concern we have the power to implement 
> insights and directions gained from empowering the community to “live”.
> 
> Regards
> Rob
> 
> On 12 Aug 2018, at 5:09 am, Jan Hoglund via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for your reflections Harrison!
> 
> Rachel Naomi Remen also speaks about 'who and what' we already are:
> 
> "The power to repair the world is already in you."
> "In befriending life, we do not make things happen according to our own 
> design. We uncover something that is already happening in us and around us 
> and create conditions that enable it. Everything is moving toward its place 
> of wholeness. Befriending life requires that we listen for that potential 
> which is trying to actualize itself over time. … It is not about mastering 
> life, controlling it or exerting our will over it, no matter how well 
> intentioned our will may be. … It means listening to life from the place in 
> us that is connected to the wholeness around us. The place in us that is also 
> whole."
> —Rachel Naomi Remen, My Grandfather's Blessings
> 
> I assume this is somewhat in line with your thinking? Maybe 'blessing' a 
> space, or an organization, is a way to open it further? And it opens 
> yourself. Just a thought.
> 
> Thanks again,
> /Jan Höglund, Sweden
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [OSList] Is there experience in developing Open Space further in organizations and networks after the initial intervention

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Harrison, the process is so comfortable ie sitting in circles, speaking when 
there is something to say, listening to others, keeping our minds open to 
insights and differences etc.  Yes we do it all the time!  Therein lies an 
issue for those looking for the “silver” bullet from “outside” as the promise 
we can make is for an opportunity to explore issues and opportunities 
associated with a particular question we have little control on what might come 
and we have faith in the community of concern will have the best ways of 
dealing with their concern.  Sometimes it is a “road to Damascus experience and 
most of the time it is an insight that needs to be explored.   This raises 
another issue for those who think the one meeting will be all that is required 
and blindly race into the future thinking that change is something that others 
do.  Opening the space is more a process than an event and seeing / believing 
in this is one of the main stays of Open Space along with the faith that within 
the community of concern we have the power to implement insights and directions 
gained from empowering the community to “live”.

Regards
Rob

> On 12 Aug 2018, at 5:09 am, Jan Hoglund via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for your reflections Harrison!
> 
> Rachel Naomi Remen also speaks about 'who and what' we already are:
> 
> "The power to repair the world is already in you."
> "In befriending life, we do not make things happen according to our own 
> design. We uncover something that is already happening in us and around us 
> and create conditions that enable it. Everything is moving toward its place 
> of wholeness. Befriending life requires that we listen for that potential 
> which is trying to actualize itself over time. … It is not about mastering 
> life, controlling it or exerting our will over it, no matter how well 
> intentioned our will may be. … It means listening to life from the place in 
> us that is connected to the wholeness around us. The place in us that is also 
> whole."
> —Rachel Naomi Remen, My Grandfather's Blessings
> 
> I assume this is somewhat in line with your thinking? Maybe 'blessing' a 
> space, or an organization, is a way to open it further? And it opens 
> yourself. Just a thought.
> 
> Thanks again,
> /Jan Höglund, Sweden
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [OSList] Is there experience in developing Open Space further in organizations and networks after the initial intervention

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Kari,
Continuing conversations are the essence of a adaptive, innovative and self 
organising organisation. The perturbation of an organisation or group by 
innovative processes like Open Space is a challenge for those involved, in 
particular those who gave permission for the event to take place as once the 
power of opening space is manifest decisions must be made. Will we continue, 
will we act on the new reality, etc.  I believe the original facilitator should 
have explored this with the persons who have permission so that there is no 
surprises about process and where it might lead including what might happen 
when the real potential of a group is realised or awakened.  People will find a 
way to continue and they will insist on process that is open.  As Harrison 
described the people will send out messages until the right time when the right 
people will gather with the right process and the process will continue.   All 
this despite what you might do as the genie is out of the bottle!

Regards
Rob

> On 6 Aug 2018, at 10:06 pm, Kári Gunnarsson via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi my dear open space family
> 
> I wonder if there is experience in developing Open Space further in 
> organizations and networks after the initial intervention and how we could, 
> each of us, go about inviting this experience to participating in the next 
> and future Wosonos events.
> 
> Who are the people that want to explor how to develop the OST approach 
> further in their organizations and networks? I think we usually call them 
> sponsors!
> 
> With love 
> Kári
> 
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Re: [OSList] Papers and writing about opening space

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Chris,
The Map is very helpful and expresses the impact of a “learning system”, yet 
another level of complexity beyond the “stimulus response” learning model.  It 
would seem that the map reflects the current reality at the time.  It might be 
said that The Map emerges from a community subject to a particular set of 
“Drivers” or forces beyond our control and may be, our influence.  The classic 
example is the “Brown Moth Study” where survival depended on a response to the 
environmental change due to industrial pollution.  Yet another variable to 
provoke our minds!

Regards
Rob

> On 10 Jul 2018, at 2:45 am, Chris Corrigan via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Micheal’s description below is helpful, and I will add that the form of 
> complexity being researched by the Santa Fe institute is computational 
> complexity, which is valuable but not completely the way that human systems 
> operate.  
> 
> This map does a really good job at articulating the various currents in 
> complexity theory as they have unfolded over the last number of decades: 
> http://scimaps.org/maps/map/map_of_complexity_sc_154/detail
> 
> Lately I have been working a lot with the work of David Snowden 
> (www.corgnitve-edge.com) and Glenda Eoyang (https://www.hsdinstitute.org), 
> the latter of whom has done a lot of work on containers too. Her book 
> Adaptive Action is quite a good and accessible introduction to her work, 
> describing the role of containers in complexity.  The paper I published in 
> teh Journal of Organizational Development expanded Dave’s theory of 
> containers as well.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 8, 2018, at 1:33 AM, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Dear Harrison,
>> 
>> I suspect that "academic" approaches of the established kind are very weak 
>> for really complex stuff such as for instance "selforganisation" which was 
>> discovered early in our experimental journey to be the essential ingredient 
>> in the Open Space Technology approach.
>> 
>> In other words, commonly used scientific exploration which is then visible 
>> in the "academic literature" has a hard time to get to the core. That might 
>> also result in the incoherent phenomenon of having many millions of people 
>> all over the world exposed to "OST" and thousands of facilitators working 
>> with this approach for decades with unusual results AND talking about their 
>> EXPERIENCES but not "analysing" or "researching" it with tools they know but 
>> are ineffective.
>> 
>> Of course, this will not discourage our quest for getting an 
>> understanding... working with it, though, and seeing productive outcomes 
>> appears to be sufficient for our praxis. I say that in the face of what I 
>> also believe "there is no better thing for good praxis than a good theory" 
>> (this is a short form of what Kurt Lewin had to say on this subject). So I 
>> love folks like Karl who are on the quest!
>> 
>> Looking at the German wikipedia for "self-organisation" I saw this note:
>> 
>> ---"They arise predominantly through processes of spontaneous 
>> self-organization and are usually inaccessible to a theory based on known 
>> mathematical functions."---
>> 
>> which is embedded in this longer piece that also refers to the work of the 
>> Santa Fe folks
>> 
>> ---"Theory of complex systems
>> 
>> The latest flow is the theory of complex systems. A complex system is a 
>> system whose properties can not be completely explained by the properties of 
>> the components of the system. Complex systems consist of a multitude of 
>> interconnected and interacting parts, entities, or agents.
>> 
>> Complex systems are widespread, indeed almost dominant, from the world of 
>> elementary particles right up to human society. [2] They arise predominantly 
>> through processes of spontaneous self-organization and are usually 
>> inaccessible to a theory based on known mathematical functions. Examples are 
>> the formation of atomic nuclei, the atoms, the transformation of substances 
>> from one state of aggregation into another, crystallization, chemical 
>> reactions, evolution, mental processes in the brain, the development of 
>> social systems, etc. In open nature, open systems are dominant In the 
>> inanimate nature, complex systems usually form spontaneously with the 
>> release of energy or in thermal equilibrium.
>> 
>> The theory of complex adaptive systems is based primarily on the work of the 
>> Santa Fe Institute. This new complexity theory, which describes emergence, 
>> adaptation and self-organization, is based on agents and computer 
>> simulations that include multi-agent systems (MAS), which have become an 
>> important tool in the exploration of social and complex systems."---
>> 
>> Wishing us all a grand weekend
>> Greetings from Berlin where I will pick the first blackberries of this 
>> season in our garden, a marvel of selforganisation, those berries
>> mmp
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 07.07.2018 um 13:37 schrieb Harrison Owen 

Re: [OSList] Papers and writing about opening space

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Thank you Michael, as always spot on!  One feature of science or should I say 
scientific writing is the quest for repeatability. That is if we do something 
then there will be a predictable response.  With complex systems that self 
organise there is a serious element of adaptability based on systemic learning 
both tacit and implicit.  The result is that despite our efforts we cannot 
predict the exact response because the “system” has already applied the leaning 
from the previous experience and adapted.   At best we can say when provoke the 
system the response if unrestricted will be self organisation and adaption.

I agree we see the changes and we move on ourselves as it is almost self 
evident that the results we expected happened.  Yes we should find ways of 
capturing the learning and compose papers that withstand the rigour of “peer 
review”.

I do know that the COST of the Open Space Meeting is rarely questioned as the 
VALUE of the meeting so often exceeds expectations.   In short we usually do 
not have to prove anything, it works!   Again it would be nice to have academic 
support with refereed papers as it would allow that part of the system that 
needs this to rest easier.

I feel we have a long way to go yet to escape reductionist thinking as it is 
well embedded in our being.  Having faith in the system that it will adapt, 
that it will find a strong sustainable future.  Faith that self organisation is 
real.  Oh, there is that word “faith”.   I think in “America’s Greatest Hero” 
the words used were “and trust your cape”.

When you have been exposed to the extent of science in life and death matters 
that have confronted me in the past two years you would understand how hard it 
is for science to deal with complex systems like the body and its response to 
attack by cancer.  The truth is that there is no deep certainties other than 
death is part of life and when a human system calls it a day varies with the 
person etc.

The fun thing is knowing the real situation and getting on with living 
regardless of the diagnosis and prognosis.   I take the tablets in good faith 
as they may help live a reasonable life I follow instruction as the Doctors and 
other professionals know much more than I do and that way we together “live” 
(very complex systems, constantly adapting just like the universe).  So as in 
“South Pacific” when asked to explain life and love the answer was “fools give 
you reasons, wise men never try”.

Please let’s hope someone will find a way of meeting the academic requirements 
of a scientific paper, but let’s just get on with the job so that the value of 
our work is the main criteria not the cost.

Regards
Rob

> On 8 Jul 2018, at 6:33 pm, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dear Harrison,
> 
> I suspect that "academic" approaches of the established kind are very weak 
> for really complex stuff such as for instance "selforganisation" which was 
> discovered early in our experimental journey to be the essential ingredient 
> in the Open Space Technology approach.
> 
> In other words, commonly used scientific exploration which is then visible in 
> the "academic literature" has a hard time to get to the core. That might also 
> result in the incoherent phenomenon of having many millions of people all 
> over the world exposed to "OST" and thousands of facilitators working with 
> this approach for decades with unusual results AND talking about their 
> EXPERIENCES but not "analysing" or "researching" it with tools they know but 
> are ineffective.
> 
> Of course, this will not discourage our quest for getting an understanding... 
> working with it, though, and seeing productive outcomes appears to be 
> sufficient for our praxis. I say that in the face of what I also believe 
> "there is no better thing for good praxis than a good theory" (this is a 
> short form of what Kurt Lewin had to say on this subject). So I love folks 
> like Karl who are on the quest!
> 
> Looking at the German wikipedia for "self-organisation" I saw this note:
> 
> ---"They arise predominantly through processes of spontaneous 
> self-organization and are usually inaccessible to a theory based on known 
> mathematical functions."---
> 
> which is embedded in this longer piece that also refers to the work of the 
> Santa Fe folks
> 
> ---"Theory of complex systems
> 
> The latest flow is the theory of complex systems. A complex system is a 
> system whose properties can not be completely explained by the properties of 
> the components of the system. Complex systems consist of a multitude of 
> interconnected and interacting parts, entities, or agents.
> 
> Complex systems are widespread, indeed almost dominant, from the world of 
> elementary particles right up to human society. [2] They arise predominantly 
> through processes of spontaneous self-organization and are usually 
> inaccessible to a theory based on known mathematical functions. Examples are 
> the formation of atomic 

Re: [OSList] Open Space - Billabongs

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Brendon, we live and work in a land where water is precious.  Billabongs are 
often the life saving watering points when we travel much like an oasis in the 
desert.  

Billabongs are also parts of prior streams where the stream has taken a new 
track and the billabong is cut off from surface flows of water yet they are fed 
and nourished by underground water that seeps across the flood plane even when 
the surface stream is non existent.  Billabongs reminds me of the deep threads 
that are part of a community that sustain it in the hard times.  The billabong 
is the evidence that this deep nourishment exists. 

 Some of these concepts are very familiar with Australians in the subconscious. 
 It must be fun to see people discover the deeper meanings of billabong.  

For me I would use the the name as it will connect with peoples experience 
after that I would let the participants take billabong where they choose.  As 
with the “message sticks” that are the indigenous passport and map every 
group/tribe had different ways of describing the features of the map so to can 
the group do the same.

Just as in the song “click go the shears” the spirt of the “swagman” remains in 
the billabong to be heard now and then!

Billabong, just another way to have fun and connect with the community of 
concern.  

Regards
Rob

> On 21 May 2018, at 1:05 am, Brendan McKeague via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> A, the billabong….thanks of asking.
> 
> The billabong in Australia is a water hole or pond where water is usually 
> found when the surrounding riverbed or land becomes dry - the last place to 
> dry up in an otherwise arid landscape - often will have a few trees or bushes 
> around it.  I used to hear Aboriginal people speak of ‘knowing where the 
> billabongs lay along certain routes or about meetings for initiation and 
> other business held near certain billabongs. Also in the iconic Australian 
> song, Waltzing Matilda, there is reference to the ‘swagman' 
> (traveller/rover/hobo) who ‘camped by a billabong’.  The term is well known 
> and recognised in both Aboriginal and ‘whitefella’ culture. 
> 
> In my early days of facilitating Open Space, I began to use the term 
> billabong as a place of ‘refreshment, relaxation, restoration, reflection, 
> renewal etc’ where, having introduced the terms butterflies and bees (in 
> Australia, I prefer the term bee to distinguish from the European introduced 
> ‘bumble bee’, regarded as a pest and destroying habitats of native species), 
> I speak about billabong ‘spaces or places’ where you can go and rest up 
> should you find that you need a break from the main meeting….maybe you’ve 
> listened enough, talked enough, need some silence, need to think about an 
> upcoming conversation that you’ve posted….find yourself a billabong space and 
> refresh your energy. A billabong space is where you wish to create it…outside 
> under a tree,  going for a stroll, lounging on a beanbag, in a corner of the 
> room or in the bar, anywhere you feel comfortable to relax…varies according 
> to where the OS meeting is held - I once had someone tell me they spent 
> 20mins in the toilet as it was the only ‘billabong’ space they could find! 
> 
> I have also had people report that one or two others came and joined them in 
> their billabong and, guess what, the most wonderful thing happened….!
> 
> Billabongs are created, or not, in the very best of our self-organising 
> tradition…just as the river meanders along its own course and leaves little 
> pools of refreshment along the way for those who need it.
> 
> Cheers
> Brendan 
> 
> 
>> On 20 May 2018, at 5:09 PM, Marai Kiele via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> What a colourful and vivid story. 
>> Thank you Brendan for taking the time to describe it so richly!
>> 
>> I got as curious as Jeff about the billabongs (first needed to look up the 
>> word).
>> Maybe there are a space where special flowers and animals can flourish?
>> Please fill us in :-)
>> 
>> Marai
>> 
>>> Am 18.05.2018 um 09:54 schrieb Jeff Aitken via OSList 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Thank you. Very rich. Lots to appreciate here.
>>> 
>>> One initial question stands out: how do billabongs act in open space? 
>>> 
>>> (We know about the butterflies and bees.) With thanks
>>> 
>>> Jeff
>>> San Francisco
>>> 
>>> 
 On Fri, May 18, 2018, 12:38 AM Brendan McKeague via OSList 
  wrote:
 
 Hi folks
 
 Here is a story (Irish style) of a recent Open Space meeting 'in 
 disguise'.  I hope it adds something to our ongoing learning and 
 collective wisdom.
 
 Cheers
 Brendan
 
 
 Open Space as Yarning Space - an Australian story
  
 Context
 A group of five different ‘language/family groups’ wishing to pursue their 
 intention of working together to submit a claim for native title over a 
 certain area 

Re: [OSList] Open Space as Yarning Space (long)

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Brendon, a Rose by any other name is a Rose!  We are facilitating conversations 
(yarns). Not selling a product.  The challenge for us is to follow your lead 
and use the local indium to get to the conversation as quickly as possible so 
that we can get the best nap time!

Regards
Rob

> On 18 May 2018, at 5:54 pm, Jeff Aitken via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thank you. Very rich. Lots to appreciate here.
> 
> One initial question stands out: how do billabongs act in open space? 
> 
> (We know about the butterflies and bees.) With thanks
> 
> Jeff
> San Francisco
> 
> 
>> On Fri, May 18, 2018, 12:38 AM Brendan McKeague via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi folks
>> 
>> Here is a story (Irish style) of a recent Open Space meeting 'in disguise'.  
>> I hope it adds something to our ongoing learning and collective wisdom.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Brendan
>> 
>> 
>> Open Space as Yarning Space - an Australian story
>>  
>> Context
>> A group of five different ‘language/family groups’ wishing to pursue their 
>> intention of working together to submit a claim for native title over a 
>> certain area of land that their families had continuous connection with for 
>> many years. There was a history of disagreement, division and destructive 
>> conflict between some of the group during the past 10 years, illustrated by 
>> separate, competing claims over parts of the area in question.  They had 
>> arrived at a place where most of the elders had decided it was time to work 
>> together otherwise their chances of achieving a successful claim in the 
>> national Native Title Court would be unlikely.  In order to prepare 
>> themselves for the next steps in submitting a formal legal claim over the 
>> region, they suggested it would be appropriate to spend a couple of days 
>> together so that ‘they could sit and yarn' about the issues that divided 
>> them in the past, about how they might reconcile with each other and how 
>> they might work together in the future.  The sponsor, a representative of 
>> the regional Land Council that would be responsible for resourcing the 
>> meeting, wondered if an Open Space style meeting would be appropriate. 
>> 
>> 
>> Naming the Process
>> Another part of the context was that the sponsoring body did not have a 
>> favourable disposition towards Open Space. I’m not sure of the details, 
>> although it sounded like someone in senior management had previously 
>> experienced some sort of Open Space meeting and wasn’t impressed. My contact 
>> within the system asked that we not call it an Open Space meeting.  I was 
>> happy to oblige and we came up with the loosely described notion of creating 
>> Yarning Circles ('yarning circle' is frequently used in indigenous 
>> vocabulary in Australia to describe a group, often referred to as 'a mob’, 
>> sitting in a circle discussing/having a yarn about whatever mattered to 
>> them. So the underlying concept was similar, without the structure of an OST 
>> meeting). 
>> 
>> From an introductory meeting with the family leaders, we formulated an 
>> invitation that asked the questions: ‘how will we work together AND respect 
>> our individual differences and identities?’
>> 
>> In describing the process, I simply renamed the main circle as the group 
>> Yarning Circle, and the break-out spaces as Yarning Places…everything else 
>> pretty much the usual set-up.  I shortened the principles on the posters to 
>> read: Right People; Right Time; Right Place; Right Yarning…the Law of Two 
>> Feet; Butterflies, Bees and Billabongs; Be Prepared to Be Surprised…and 
>> linked my introduction to each of these. 
>> 
>> 
>> The Event
>> There was a lot of anticipation about what might happen. The complexity of 
>> longstanding inter-familial, inter-generational disputes is well known in 
>> the world of native title in Australia. Security guards were hired for the 
>> meeting so that only those who were entitled to be there (another 
>> interpretation of 'the right people') were admitted. This was to do with the 
>> requirement that only those who are directly descended from the original 
>> ‘traditional owners’ of the particular areas are entitled to be part of the 
>> discussions and eventual decision-making process. There are strict protocols 
>> around anthropologist 'connection research’ to ensure that this is the case 
>> and these reports often generate additional conflicts among family groups.  
>> 
>> On the first morning of the two-day event, while people were beginning to 
>> gather in the meeting space, there was a very animated and highly charged 
>> interaction between two rather large men (I subsequently discovered these 
>> were two brothers who had not spoken directly to each other for nearly ten 
>> years) and this generated a burst of high tension energy.  A security guard 
>> intervened, in a very professional, low-key way, creating a pause between 
>> the men and providing an 

Re: [OSList] back full circle about 'planning meeting'

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Birgitta and Chris,

Thank you for awakening the past with the concept of preparing the field.  The 
sketch you show reflects an old way yet it may hide some critical factors.  The 
plough lands are back and forth across the field, today such ploughing will 
because the machine is controlled by GPS and a complex electronic system called 
total traffic control (TCC).  TCC requires significant prior preparation 
involving deep knowledge of the complex systems that we calla paddock or field. 
 TCC is primarily designed to get the best from the field sustainably.

The other reflection is that in this case the plough lands are in straight 
lines, the one constant feature in nature is that there are very few straight 
lines.  In fact the presence of humankind is often detected by straight lines.

As we prepare ourselves to facilitate OST this simple and yet profound image of 
the field being prepared gives us both the promise of a great meeting and the 
warning about how we, the facilitator, need to know the field and work with the 
terrain so that the straight lines of our imposition are minimised.

Ploughing used to be a boring job and now it has been transformed by our 
knowledge and its application to an exciting and interesting task full of 
expectation of newness and goodness.

Thank you both for reminding me of the new way to prepare a field.  Another 
element that also rings true to OST is by working with the natural features we 
open the chance of finding the abundance of goodness.  The slowing down and 
relaxing are two elements that have helped me realise the abundance of goodness 
that surrounds me at all times.

My journey continues as I work “with the grain” to expose the goodness and 
unique greatness I /we are blessed with.

Regards
Robert

> On 4 Apr 2018, at 4:31 am, Chris Corrigan via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> I love that picture!  I still use my own version of it as an icon when I am 
> sketching something for a “planning meeting.”
> 
> Thanks for the memories!
> 
> Chris
> 
>> On Apr 3, 2018, at 10:13 AM, Birgitt Williams via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Dear friends and colleagues,
>> Some of you joined us for the online workshop about Planning for Highly 
>> Participatory Meetings. I am an advocate of a well done 'planning' meeting 
>> to assist our clients develop clarity about what they are inviting people 
>> to...and thus to provide sufficient information to those being invited to 
>> make an informed choice about whether the meeting is something that they 
>> with to attend.
>> 
>> This method of planning is suitable for conversations with the sponsoring 
>> group for an Open Space Technology meeting, a meeting using Whole Person 
>> Process Facilitation, or other participatory meetings such as World Cafe. 
>> 
>> Now, let me get to the part of this story that is about going back full 
>> circle about the planning meeting. A delightful man Joergen from the 
>> Netherlands said, what you are teaching here is not actually about a 
>> planning meetingit would be better if you called it 'preparing the 
>> ground'. He went on to say that during the meeting the ground was being 
>> prepared with the leaders for a carefully considered meeting AND the ground 
>> was being prepared for making the most of the outcomes of the meeting.
>> 
>> I laughed at myself. Why in the world had I ever started calling this a 
>> 'planning meeting'??? In my early days with Open Space Technology and Whole 
>> Person Process Facilitation, I had adopted a concept that originally came 
>> from Harrison about  'preparing the field'. Way back then (yes, some decades 
>> ago) I had a friend draw a picture of 'preparing the field' and I used this 
>> picture in my original workbooks as a necessary step. Thanks to Joergen, I 
>> am back full circle to a 'preparing the field' meeting.
>> 
>> I am attaching the picture. Artist is Virginia Burt, landscape architect.
>> 
>> And if you wish to learn Whole Person Process Facilitation as a great 
>> complimentary method to OST, I have an online workshop coming up  beginning 
>> next Friday and taking place for three consecutive Fridays. It is a great 
>> method to use when carrying out a 'preparing the field' meeting, and for any 
>> other time that a more guided approach than OST is needed...yet retaining 
>> the same principles and values as OST.
>> 
>> Warmly,
>> Birgitt
>> -- 
>>  
>>  
>>  
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>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [OSList] OST in India

[R Chaffe via OSList]

To support the posts so far.  Open Space technology that I had the privilege to 
be part of seemed to be just the right thing as it reflected many of the values 
that are present in the various cultural and religious practices in the society 
that I shared.  Because it is so your client may be looking for the Western 
World simplistic imposed solutions.  You challenge may be the fact that 
everyone has an equal space, every idea is welcome, complexity is seen as a 
natural component of the issues and opportunities and that there may be 
confronting, challenging and radical suggestions.  Opening space has the 
promise of gleaning the ideas, suggestions, issues that are within that 
business community so the sponsor must be able to accept this and in their 
opening, enabling address must sincerely convey this to the participants.  So 
when they step back the participants are ready to post their topic without 
hesitation.  The social structures in India often mean that various sections of 
the community are excluded as they are members of the other class or cast. This 
will be the major barrier to getting the whole of the business involved and 
therefore major issue in engaging other sections in any change the event using 
Open Space Technology “invents”.

Best of luck,  if you mission is based on pluck you will succeed if on luck 
success is optional


Regards
Rob

> On 31 Mar 2018, at 11:38 am, Jeff Aitken via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> OST was in India nearly before it was established in the USA - both in the 
> same few years late 80s!
> 
> Others have stories I'm sure..m
> 
> Jeff
> 
>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018, 5:30 PM Heidi Nobantu Saul via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> Greetings OST World Community - from the high desert of Santa Fe, New Mexico 
>> ~
>> 
>> I have a potential client in India (a tech company) and it would be very 
>> helpful to be able to provide them with some companies, institutions or 
>> organizations that have used Open Space in India in recent years.  Meaning 
>> more recent than the original event in Goa - which I have mentioned to my 
>> client. 
>> 
>> They have the idea that it is an 'American' thing and therefor may not work 
>> as easily with Indian participants.
>> 
>> If any of you who have facilitated OST in India are willing to share where 
>> you did it/who for, I would be most appreciative!
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Heidi 
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Re: [OSList] OST and what makes team work successful

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Marai

It is an insight that rings so true to me.  As we apply the technology or 
system called Open Space to real and pressing needs, the need for all to be 
psychologically safe is vital along with any other need that when met results 
in safety.  Maslow has clearly defined safety as the foundation and my personal 
experience confirms this as one of the “break through” (beyond the superficial, 
reaching into the core issues) conditions that allows the participants 
including the facilitator to participate and move into “real” issues and 
opportunities.  It is the time when we can be as one with the confidence and 
freedom to express our needs and ideas/ solutions.

When the gathering’s participants are psychologically safe the gathered group 
is “open” and that is when the real work, discussion, decisions, commitments 
etc take place.  The “space” is primarily the physical area and then becomes 
the whole environment.  “Open Space”  takes on a new reality when one has the 
privilege of a gathering that is totally psychologically safe.  The facilitator 
has the task of assisting this to happen..  Open Space is such a simple 
statement and the facilitator must treat the meeting  with respect and a 
passion to do what ever is required to assist the participants to be 
psychologically safe so that hopes and dreams related to the issue that brought 
them together in the first place are expressed and transformed into the new 
reality.

I wish I could join your discussion so I must participate on the side via the 
list.
Regards
Rob

> On 20 Mar 2018, at 5:02 am, Peggy Holman via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> What a lovely question Marai!
> 
> I can tell you that I fell in love with OST the first time I experienced it 
> -- in 1996 -- because I saw something that I didn’t know was possible:
> 
> The needs of individuals and the needs of the whole could both be met.
> 
> 
> Before then, I thought either one or the other is sacrificed. I now know that 
> this experience of “differentiated wholeness" is an indicator of a 
> transformation to an organization or community with a new story of who it is 
> and who belongs. It makes room for more aspects of itself. 
> 
> OST creates the ground for individual expression, in which showing up 
> authentically is valued (as opposed to a common, tragic, unspoken norm that 
> we need to stay quiet in order to belong). In the process of being ourselves, 
> people discover deeper connections to each other. And that causes a shift in 
> the cultural story of who we are as a whole. 
> 
> In short, OST creates the space for the full voiced self, connection with 
> others, and sense of being of a larger whole.
> 
> 
> Peggy
> 
> 
> 
> Peggy Holman
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> 
>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Marai Kiele via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Dear colleagues,
>> 
>> Do you know what the core is, of what has drawn you to OST?
>> 
>> Last year I came across a word that describes both, a phenomena I have 
>> experienced and cherished in OST as well as something that has turned out to 
>> be a key ingredient to successful teams:
>> 
>>  Psychological Safety
>> 
>> The term was coined by Amy Edmondson, Novartis Professor of Leadership and 
>> Management, Harvard Business School.
>> 
>> It is referred to in a study by Google, which they undertook to understand 
>> what distinguishes their successful teams from those who do so-so.
>> Anyone interested in the subject… more here by Google:
>> 
>>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZlSq_Hf08M
>> 
>> "Psychological Safety" means team members are safe to take risk and be 
>> vulnerable in front of others. They know it’s okay or even requested to 
>> speak up, disagree, admit mistakes, ask „stupid“ questions or share a crazy 
>> idea. All of this without the fear of loosing „belonging“ or lessen one's 
>> status within a group.
>> 
>> In the study this has proven to be by far the most important ingredient for 
>> successful team work, even more important than dependability, meaning, 
>> impact…
>> 
>> Years back, I found this beautifully described in other words by Tova 
>> Averbuch, in her TEDx talk „Opening Space to Collective Wisdom“ (hello Tova! 
>> :-) ) 
>> She opens with the words „To be or to belong“—a tension that I know very 
>> well: Being fully myself or belonging to a group seemed often in conflict. 
>> Especially during my time in the corporate world as a product manager. Tova 
>> describes how in OST she has found both together: „being AND belonging". As 
>> I have, too.
>> 
>> Back to my opening question: Do you know what the core is, of what has drawn 
>> you to 

Re: [OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 82, Issue 3 re: conflict, conflict resolution, avoidance and Open Space

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Chris
Yes we do miss our dear friend yet our very conversation draws the essence of 
our being with Fr Brian so he lives in us and our conversations.  So as we are 
potentially drawn into conflict we also can open our space and give room for 
Brian and so many others to join us.  

You may recall the experiments where rat colonies are given no boundaries and 
an abundance of food then either the space or the food become restricted to the 
point that the participants attack each other as they seek to survive.  
Somewhere on the continuum there is a pint where the observer may say conflict 
begins.  

What have we learnt?  We might say that conflict is a condition that is 
resident in all and depending on the “importance” to the individual of the 
environment/conditions etc and their ability to survive. 

When we invite others to join our conversation how they respond will greatly 
depend on the importance  of the conversation is to them, we might call it 
passion and in our terms passion is moderated by responsibility so we have a 
new issue responsibility!  Responsibility to who or what?  

Consequently we define boundaries some may be stated others may be unwritten 
rules that are the community norms.  One way to express dissatisfaction with a 
conversation is to withdraw, the law of mobility (my paraplegia heightens my 
awareness of the privilege of walking).

Peter Sandman says that effective conflict resolution happens when the risks 
and the level of outrage are balanced.  He has been involved in some of the 
worlds greatest man made disasters, a hot bed of conflict.  So what happens 
when the situation is right for the possibility of resolution?  Someone issues 
an invitation and regardless of if they follow the “rules” they open the space. 
  

Conflict may be expressed both by outrage or hazard.  I believe that this may 
be a simplistic way of seeing the world/system around us yet it gives us a 
pathway to understanding why people come and why people go, it depends on how 
they see themselves in the system and how it might impact on their survival 
(our friend Maslow and others all point to survival as the issue that will 
provoke greatest interest).

Resolution of conflict begins with the ability to listen to the other point of 
view.  We can say our ability to stop and give space to ourselves and others.   

Opening space, creating space, seeing space is about stopping.  It is about 
breathing in harmony with those around us.  It is about holding back the “walls 
of the rat colony” for a moment so that we can think and listen to others. Open 
Space technology is one way we can do this as a process.  The space must be 
created to allow us to hear, to let new ideas to grow, to explore the whys, 
what’s etc

As Fr Brian seeks out another red he prompts us to to the same and that is to 
live to the fullest each moment we have and there are times to get involved and 
times to walk away, times to just sit and times for enthusiastic engagement 
with others.  It mostly depends on the space we need at moment.
We could explore Fr Brian’s relationship with his authorities and how that 
conflict was managed but that is for another day.

Regards
Robert

PS Andrew and others please find time later this month for some YumCha in 
memory of our dear friend.  I will be undergoing further treatment so cannot 
join you in person.


> On 5 Feb 2018, at 3:38 pm, Chris Corrigan via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> I’ve been really enjoying this conversation. 
> 
> I have indeed been part of conflict resolutions where there was constrained 
> space to move. Mediation on a job and litigation as well as restorative 
> practice (conflict resolution circles). I believe that working with 
> constraints is a high art of leadership.  And even in Open Space there are 
> still constraints.  I certainly just advocate for being honest about what 
> those are. We can have governing constraints (like rules, i.e. the meeting 
> will end at 5pm) and enablisgin constraints, like the principles and the law 
> of two feet.  But nothing ever happens without a container.
> 
> So given that, how we work with constraints and build a container matters.  I 
> have run Open Spaces where there were fewer degrees of freedom than others 
> (of course participants could always call whatever conversation they wanted 
> to, but the management of the organization got to define areas they could 
> resource and act on).
> 
> The original question was about Dave Snowden’s criticism of how the law of 
> two feet operates in spaces where conflict is important. This can mean any 
> kind situation where a group of people needs to hear a contrary point of view 
> in order to act wisely.  In many places these days, folks just walk away from 
> people who’s opinions they find odious.  This kind of conflict avoidance 
> creates massive division and “echo chamber’ behaviour.  Even calling an open 
> space meeting is a kind of narrowing of 

Re: [OSList] OST encourages avoidance of conflict

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Air Sizzles  these moments are so precious as possibilities become 
realities. 

Regards
Robert

> On 2 Feb 2018, at 11:06 am, Michael Herman via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> "And the air sizzles."  
> 
> That may be one of my favorite lines in ALL of what's been posted to this 
> list!  
> 
>  
> --
> 
> Michael Herman
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> 312-280-7838 (mobile)
> 
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> 
> 
>> On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 1:58 PM, Harrison Owen via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> There is conflict, and then there is destructive conflict. I think they are 
>> two entirely different things. Conflict is an essential part of living, 
>> life, the total evolutionary process. Show me any organization that has no 
>> conflict and I’ll show you a dead one. Conflict occurs when two or more 
>> critical concerns (cares) but heads. Given sufficient room, they will find a 
>> way. Close that space and they will kill each other. My experience in Open 
>> Space has always been one of intense conflict combined with serious way 
>> finding. Parties who would ordinarily kill each other find common ground. 
>> And the air sizzles. Believe me, I’ve been there.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Harrison
>> 
>>  
>> 
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>> 
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>>  
>> 
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>> 
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>>  
>> 
>> Websites
>> 
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>> 
>> www.ho-image.com
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Harold Shinsato via OSList
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 5:25 PM
>> To: oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
>> Cc: Harold Shinsato
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] OST encourages avoidance of conflict
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Daniel,
>> 
>> Interesting concern. I think I remember hearing this from a well respected 
>> management guru as a critique of Open Space. I can't help but wonder the 
>> following:
>> 
>> - How well do individual adults resolve conflicts when an authority figure 
>> forces them?
>> - How well do conflicting peoples or tribal communities resolve conflicts 
>> when they are forcibly held together by an imperial force (think Rome, USSR, 
>> pre-partition India, etc etc etc)
>> 
>> If you are dealing with children or developmentally challenged individuals - 
>> especially those who have violated others rights are are in prison - I can 
>> imagine there being some value to some level of compulsion or coercion here. 
>> But even there, it may temporarily resolve the fighting and damage, but not 
>> the children's growth.
>> 
>> If you are dealing with severe human rights being violated in tribal 
>> scenarios, I can see how that might justify gunboat diplomacy. But I can't 
>> imagine the tribal system will evolve to respect human rights without a huge 
>> additional investment from the gunboat diplomats. And it is all too likely 
>> that such interference may not only cause even bigger problems later on, but 
>> can also encourage exploitation of the less developed tribe/community.
>> 
>> Thanks for asking this question!
>> 
>> Harold
>> 
>> 
>> On 1/30/18 2:07 PM, Daniel Mezick via OSList wrote:
>> 
>> I am hearing this pointed criticism from some quarters: That OST actually 
>> encourages conflict-avoidance via the Law of 2 Feet. In other words, people 
>> who need to be resolving conflict (or at least discussing it) can just avoid 
>> the touchy topic... and each other. 
>> 
>> Could this actually be true? If not why not?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> -- 
>> Daniel Mezick
>> Culture Strategist. Author. Keynoter.
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>> 
>> 
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Re: [OSList] OST encourages avoidance of conflict

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Thank you Michael

The theme so far has avoided the key issue being the fact we are part of a self 
regulating system in what we have chosen to call open space.   At the same time 
we seemed to be focused on the event called open space rather than the 
environment of our business.   An open space event occurs when the participants 
choose to come, remember the drums,  we as individuals have choice to be part 
of or not of the meeting.If the group is ready to discuss the topic/stated 
reason for the group to get together, they will find a way.

I led the facilitation of a group of industry representatives who had been 
invited to come together to explore the issues and opportunities surrounding 
the next round of research funding with in excess of $14 million up for grabs.  
 The investor asked that we try a different way as past meetings had become 
quite reductionist and focused on predictable themes that encouraged 
reinforcing existing programs and reduced the opportunity of new alliances and 
synergies that may extend the effectiveness of the allocated funds.

Things went well for about two hours and predictably some resisted choice and 
were uncomfortable with the Open Process.  One very powerful leader of one 
section of the industry choose to take charge and “unload” on the whole event.  
 “What ever happens...”. I let him finish as he finally unloaded on the team 
member who was closest at the time.  The co-facilitator held her ground and 
also paused.  Sure enough one of the other participators stood up and in effect 
told the interjector that he had had his say and suggested that he sit down 
just get on with the job at hand.  Applause.  The interjector resumed his seat 
and did as suggested.  Yes there was conflict.  Yes the underlying conflict was 
not resolved.  Yes the sponsor was very impressed and when asked he assured us 
he had got want he wanted.  There was no revolutionary change but change had 
begun.  For the interjector, differences were not resolved and he had a choice 
to change without judgement.  10 years later things have changed dramatically, 
some of the issues and opportunities became realities and the investor and 
those who used the opportunity to explore these on the Day were ready for the 
changes.  The changes involved massive financial changes with over 80% of the 
industry put out of business.

Remember when the opportunity is provided to Open Space the community involved 
will self regulate to sustain a dynamic balance.   The facilitators task is to 
allow this to take place by sustaining the space. Rev Ray Richmond from the 
Wayside Chapel in Sydney said the hardest part of his job in keeping the first 
safe injecting house in Australia open was to treat everyone exactly the same 
while restricting intervention to that that ensured that no harm was done to 
self and others.   He managed to sustain a living open space where conflict 
just did not happen, differences were always common place.  

Open Space is not the soft option when conflict is possible, it is an option 
that brings with it responsibilities and opportunities that often ensures that 
conflicts dissolve into differences that further dissolve in to synergism to 
solutions that are owned by all.   I am sure there are many stories out there 
that confirm “Open Space” is an option that helps to deal with conflict and as 
always it may not be the best option for you and your current situation. 

If I choose to be somewhere else it just means I need to be somewhere else and 
the law of two feet, or in my case the law of mobility, ensures this choice is 
always open to me

Regards
Robert

> On 31 Jan 2018, at 8:42 pm, Martina Roell (Structure & Process) via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hey Daniel,
> 
> Daniel Mezick via OSList wrote:
>> I am hearing this pointed criticism from some quarters: That OST
>> actually encourages conflict-avoidance via the Law of 2 Feet. 
> 
> Well, even if that were true (which I don't think it is): would it be a
> bad thing? I would rather have "conflict avoidance" than war. I would
> rather have "conflict avoidance" than rips in a community.
> 
>> In other
>> words, people who need to be resolving conflict (or at least discussing
>> it) can just avoid the touchy topic... and each other.
> 
> I wonder who "people who need to be resolving conflict" are. When I hear
> that rhetoric, I think it tells me more about the speaker than about the
> "people" they are speaking about: The speaker seems to have some idea
> about "the people" who "need" to do something: "they (!) should (!) be
> resolving conflict!" "They (!) should (!) not be avoiding (this and that)".
> 
> It's the position of a "leader" who thinks they know better than "the
> people".
> 
> To them, I say: well go ahead and make an invitation for people to step
> into a tight container and "resolve conflict" or "go into conflict" or
> whatever you think is needed. See if anyone shows up.
> Or, if 

Re: [OSList] Thinking...

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Hello Harrison,

Thank you for sharing and restating the core things we struggle with when we 
meet.  Sometimes the chap in the mirror struggles with the basic facts of 
effectively living.  Yes life can be seen as a series of “questions” that each 
day when we wake we make choices as we decide the right thing to do.

Those of us who shave each morning are confronted by the reality of the others 
in our lives starting with that chap in the mirror.

You raise again the issue of the one certainty of life as death.  Yet in death 
we have life and the cycle continues.

So often when we gather we see it as an event almost totally forgetting that 
nothing exists in isolation in the complex system called the world.  Taking an 
opportunity to explore options(issues and opportunities) is being “mindful” or 
our place.  Just as you drifted down the lake you used the opportunity to 
identify one thing that is essential to a discussion “why”.   

There seems to be a fixation on time in the modern world that is dictated by a 
mechanical, now electronic device.  What a nonsense.  As I explore my options I 
am continually drawn to Ecclesiastes where there is an expression of time as 
action.  Time to live, time to die, time to plant, time to harvest and so on.  
There is no mention of “clock” time.

When we separate reality from life we are driven by clock time, must hurry, 
must be on time etc.  This becomes an obsession and we cloud our life with 
schedules and stuff.

In my situation as I recovered from very serious surgery both physical and 
radiology followed by the reality of living with paraplegia and chemical 
treatment for cancer along with Oncologists who struggle to define what the 
treatment will do to me I have reflected on the questions you raise.

The psalmist began The Lord is my shepherd . I shall not want.

Yes it sounds as trite as Open Space.  

There are shepherds who guide and protect us and in my case I believe there is 
one full of  love, peace, hope and joy who ensures I can live to my full 
potential.

The second statement is the one that is so often glossed over, it is 
definitively the one that says it all.  Everything that I need is provided.   
We can best understand this as we gather in the circle (enough said about this 
natural and most powerful way of gathering) we have a chance to reveal this 
reality as each is encouraged to contribute (live) we are”mindful” of the 
changes we should explore.

Yes, I do not want.  How lucky can we be to have such abundance of goodness 
that surrounds us.  How lucky are we to have “Open Space” as a way of sharing 
the “way” to  exposing goodness and dealing with the distractions of modern 
life.

John Dunne captured the reality of death and the glory of life when he wrote:


Death, be not proud, though some have called thee 
Mighty and dreadful, for thou art not so; 
For those whom thou think'st thou dost overthrow 
Die not, poor Death, nor yet canst thou kill me. 
From rest and sleep, which but thy pictures be, 
Much pleasure; then from thee much more must flow, 
And soonest our best men with thee do go, 
Rest of their bones, and soul's delivery. 
Thou art slave to fate, chance, kings, and desperate men, 
And dost with poison, war, and sickness dwell, 
And poppy or charms can make us sleep as well 
And better than thy stroke; why swell'st thou then? 
One short sleep past, we wake eternally 
And death shall be no more; Death, thou shalt die. 

Living and life is so different, just as Open Space is


Regards
Rob

> On 5 Nov 2017, at 11:36 pm, Harrison Owen via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have been asked on occasions (by myself and others) what did I do – 
> exactly. Truthfully I’ve never really had a good answer, but I’ve been 
> trying. The latest effort may be viewed at 
> http://openspaceworld.com/AweOfSacred_HarrisonOwen.pdf Please share if you 
> care.
>  
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Re: [OSList] Invitation using youtube

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Yes Brendan it will be quite a challenge for the organisation that is so 
strongly hierarchical.  Where there is a strong tendency to defer decisions to 
“those above”, and doing what I am told.  The current issues relating to the 
Catholic Church in particular, demonstrate how this system has failed 
catastrophically.   

We can but hope that the organisation does not obstruct the forces that open 
space will release.  There is nothing as powerful as an idea whose time has 
come.   Our Open Space community needs to be as one with those who have the 
privilege to attend the event and all must know that the right people are there 
and that there is space for all and their ideas/issues/ attitudes / aspirations.

I am sure Father Brian will be smiling on the event and doing what he can to 
make it as good as possible.  I am not sure what he will be telling “the 
Bishop” as in the past some of the messages he sent were somewhat different to 
the messages others got!

I can’t hardly wait to see the outputs from the gathering.

Regards
Rob

> On 1 Nov 2017, at 6:12 pm, Brendan McKeague via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Michael - warm and wonderful words. 
> 
> I will forward it to a few Catholics here in Australia - see if we can expand 
> the ecumenical space, and the practice of peace,  a wee bit further!
> 
> I remember Michael Hermann telling the story, many years ago when he was 
> 'down under' with us, after an OS meeting he had facilitated, one of the 
> participants approached him and asked: “Can the Catholics do this?”
> 
> Cheers
> Brendan  
> 
> 
>> On 31 Oct 2017, at 10:56 PM, Michelle Cooper via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes I loved this too. Suggesting the idea for an event we are planning here. 
>> Thanks for sharing.
>> Michelle
>>  
>> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Diana Larsen via OSList
>> Sent: October-31-17 10:03 AM
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> Cc: Diana Larsen
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Invitation using youtube
>>  
>> I’m sending it to an organizer I work with too! Thanks Michael. As someone 
>> already said: wonderful, warm, and inspiring. 
>> - Diana 
>> 
>> Diana Larsen
>> http://futureworksconsulting.com
>> Portland, Oregon, USA 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 31, 2017, at 04:53, Scott Gassman via OSList 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Thank you Michael for sharing.
>>> I enjoyed the "two minute youtube invitation,"
>>> and I have someone to send it to. Impeccable timing.
>>>  
>>> Scott Gassman
>>>  
>>> On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 2:36 AM, Michael Wood via OSList 
>>>  wrote:
>>> I am facilitating an Open Space soon for the Anglican Diocese of Perth 
>>> soon. One of the sponsors made a two minute youtube invitation to accompany 
>>> the written invitation which was being emailed. I think it’s really good 
>>> and thought I’s share it with you. If the OSLIST  mucks up the formatting 
>>> for the youtube clip, please email me and I’ll be happy to send you the 
>>> link by email. Michael Wood, Perth, Western Australia.
>>>  
>>>  https://youtu.be/V-AE5Bh67Aw
>>>  
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Re: [OSList] WOSonOS Day 2 is starting - Who's thinking

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Harrison, thank you for “being” here.  

Regards
Robert

> On 28 Oct 2017, at 8:46 am, Harrison Owen via OSList 
> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> 
> I was there a little bit. Electronically. Amazing 24,000 miles trip and I 
> never left home. Now that's weird! And wonderful folks. I joined them twice, 
> a little chaotic, but it all worked. My heart was warmed constantly -- but 
> perhaps more so when one of the participants from Mindanao (Southern 
> Philippines) remarked on my "presence." I'm not quite sure what he was trying 
> to say -- but I do know that it was an honor and privilege to be "there" -- 
> by whatever means. Thank you!
> 
> Harrison   
> 
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> Websites
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of 
> Michael M Pannwitz via OSList
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2017 4:53 AM
> To: R Chaffe via OSList
> Cc: Michael M Pannwitz
> Subject: Re: [OSList] WOSonOS Day 2 is starting - Who's thinking
> 
> can we see the picture of the group
> hugs
> mmp
> 
>> Am 27.10.2017 um 04:38 schrieb R Chaffe via OSList:
>> Thanks for the news Jane, greetings from down under.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Robert
>> 
>> On 27 Oct 2017, at 11:55 am, Jane Lewis via OSList 
>> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> We are just going into day 2 of WOSonOS17 in Tainan, South Taiwan.
>>> There's been a lot of excitement and a few little blips. In a minute 
>>> we'll be doing the group photo.
>>> 
>>> The question is beginning to build ... Who's going to invite for 2018? 
>>> 19? 20?
>>> 
>>> A few little updates from here
>>> We've got folks from the Philippines, Germany, Iceland, Philippines, 
>>> Italy, Canada, USA, Malaysia, Singapore.
>>> We had an amazing artist team show up and create walls in a space that 
>>> had no walls to speak of. Then they did wonderful art around, 
>>> including a number of "clear air suits". (wearable suits with plants 
>>> arrange in them for "personalized clean air")
>>> On the fly we dealt with some technical issues and heard Harrison at 
>>> the opening - a big treat!
>>> Our facilitator is speaking in Chinese with a translator.
>>> The picture taking team just went out to the wet market brought 
>>> goodies back for breakfast.
>>> 
>>> And  Who's going to invite for 2018? 19? 20?
>>> Just wondering.
>>> 
>>> best, Jane
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> 
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>>> LINE, WhatsApp
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>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>>What kind of world
>>> 
>>> 
>>>do we want each other to live in?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Events
>>> *
>>> *
>>> **Oct 26-28 2017 *World Open Space on Open Space, Tainan Register 
>>> <http://tinyurl.com/ycpls2v8>  || **Info 
>>> <http://openspaceworld.org/wp2/wosonos2017/>*
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Re: [OSList] WOSonOS Day 2 is starting - Who's thinking

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Thanks for the news Jane, greetings from down under.

Regards
Robert

> On 27 Oct 2017, at 11:55 am, Jane Lewis via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> We are just going into day 2 of WOSonOS17 in Tainan, South Taiwan.
> There's been a lot of excitement and a few little blips. In a minute we'll be 
> doing the group photo.
> 
> The question is beginning to build ... Who's going to invite for 2018? 19? 20?
> 
> A few little updates from here
> We've got folks from the Philippines, Germany, Iceland, Philippines, Italy, 
> Canada, USA, Malaysia, Singapore.
> We had an amazing artist team show up and create walls in a space that had no 
> walls to speak of. Then they did wonderful art around, including a number of 
> "clear air suits". (wearable suits with plants arrange in them for 
> "personalized clean air")
> On the fly we dealt with some technical issues and heard Harrison at the 
> opening - a big treat!
> Our facilitator is speaking in Chinese with a translator.
> The picture taking team just went out to the wet market brought goodies back 
> for breakfast. 
> 
> And  Who's going to invite for 2018? 19? 20? 
> Just wondering.
> 
> best, Jane
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
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> 
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> janeele...@gmail.com 
> HawaiiBreeze  Skype
> 
> Maybe the real question to ask every day is ... 
> What kind of world 
> do we want each other to live in?
> 
> Events
> 
> Oct 26-28 2017 World Open Space on Open Space, Tainan  Register  || Info
> Nov 6-11 Shiatsu Foundation, Paola Campanelli, Tainan  || 
> Info 
> Craniosacral 4hr  w/s 11-12台南, 11-19台東, 11-26台北, 12-3台中  || Email for Info
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Re: [OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 78, Issue 21

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Gail et al,
Thinking of you from down under, 15 years on from the Marysville conference in 
2002.

My very best wishes for a great gathering.

My health is defined as “you are doing very well” I am walking with the aid of 
a 4 wheel walker and my Doctor and Physiotherapist are constantly telling me to 
slow down.  My oncologist thinks I am doing very well and I am leaving the 
treatment of the cancer in his hands while I get on with the task of living.  
The down side of my medication is fatigue so I am limited in what I can do by 
this!  

Greetings to all who can make the gathering and my very best wishes for the 
best possible time for all.

Regards
Robert

> On 25 Oct 2017, at 12:08 pm, Gail West via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> See you about 6:30  Enjoy the day!
> 
> Gail
> 
>> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 7:49 AM, Sharon Chao via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> manila folks checking in...a mighty fine morning here in tainan:)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
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>>3. Open Space Hotline TODAY, 10/24/17 @ 12PM EDT! (Tricia Chirumbole)
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Re: [OSList] OST for evaluation

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Anne
I was asked to evaluate a major campaign costing in excess of AU $100 million 
dollars and I was allocated 3 hour opportunities to meet with groups.  I did it 
my way, Open Space, and the sponsor was very pleased.  The results were used to 
transform the business with some of the recommendations still being worked 
through 13 years later.  Do what you believe will generate the best outcomes, 
the participants mostly do not have any idea of process they just respond to 
invitations.  Open Space provides a wealth  of opportunities for effective 
engagement on many levels.  The length of time is not the issue it is how we 
use it!

Regards
Rob

> On 2 Oct 2016, at 12:21 AM, Anne-Béatrice Duparc via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I was asked to facilitate an annual meeting (3 hours) which purpose is the 
> evaluation of a series of events taking place every years. The evaluation 
> concerns the organization of the events and the events itself, in order to 
> know what went well, what did not and have some hints for the following 
> season. The events are festival districts sponsored by the city but mainly 
> organized by volunteers with some fundings of the city. They take place all 
> around the city, with second hand good sales, music, cultural events, food. 
> They are very popular but were downsized this year due to a diminished budget 
> allocation. 
> 
> I wonder if any of you has ever used OST for the purpose of making such 
> evaluations. I really would love to use OST in this context, but I am not 
> sure if it would bring the desired outcomes. Moreover an evening is a really 
> short amount of time for an OST...  
> 
> Thanks for any hints,
>  
> Anne-Béatrice Duparc
> 00 41 76 378 69 98
> Accompagnatrice de processus participatifs
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Re: [OSList] Tips for working with Translators during Open Space event

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Andrew

In Shepparton east I worked with a translator with newly arrived people fro 
Italy - told less jokes and allowed more space.

In India it was completely different when working in the villages as English 
was not common.  I had translators translating into Hindi and then re 
translating into the local dialect.  It was so much fun once I settled into the 
fact that I needed to allow three times the time if I talked.  Consequently I 
reduced my talking time by a factor of three and it worked like a charm,  the 
news sessions were interesting as the jokes were lie a ripple effect with me 
being the last person to hear the joke.  Again more time and it was amazing how 
the other ways of communicating became so much more evident especially smiles 
and an easy stance.  

By the way the outcome of the main session was a complete change in how they 
propagated their trees for revegetation projects from tube trees they had to 
carry in for miles to open rooted stock that was grown next to the school 
(students involved) using almost the same system they had been using for 
germinating rice - a system that is thousands of years old.  They could do it 
cheaper and more productively their way! 

Regards
Rob

> On 24 Feb 2016, at 11:31 am, Andrew Rixon via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sounds great Michael.
> 
> And totally agree.
> 
> Will pop it into the database!
> 
> And maybe a few other Aussies lurking could do the same :-)
> 
> Warm regards
> Andrew 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 24 Feb 2016, at 10:00 AM, Michael M Pannwitz  wrote:
>> 
>> My pleasure, Andrew.
>> 
>> Its no secret that a lot of os-work is happening all over the planet. And 
>> its also no secret in general that we os-practitioners are a shy crowd, 
>> hiding most of the tremendous stuff we are doing. I keep wondering why only 
>> a tiny fraction of our work is documented... seems to me that documenting 
>> more of what we do is a simple way of spreading the word. The 793 events 
>> recorded by some 60 of us in the worldscape represent probably only 0,001% 
>> of what is actually taking place.
>> 
>> Greetings from Berlin
>> mmp
>> 
>>> On 23.02.2016 22:02, Andrew Rixon wrote:
>>> Thanks Michael.
>>> 
>>> And thanks also for sharing the openspaceworldscape link.
>>> 
>>> Australia looks a bit scarce on the map - but there is plenty happening
>>> here. ;-)
>>> 
>>> Warm regards,
>>> Andrew
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 10:24 PM, Michael M Pannwitz
>>> > wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Dear Andrew, Lisa, Birgitt and you others,
>>> 
>>>   a few years ago I was asked to facilitate an event in the northeastern
>>>   corner of Poland with folks across the border from Lithuania also
>>>   attending. The sponsor asked two translators to translate my US-American
>>>   introduction into Polish and Lithuanian. They walked the circle behind
>>>   me as Lisa also described. One effect was that I constantly had little
>>>   breaks to focus on the next thing to say and the participants had
>>>   various inputs they could understand in different languages (my
>>>   assumption: all understood their mother tongue, of course and most had
>>>   at least some rudimentary language skills in the other languages
>>>   spoken).
>>>   All posters were in the three languages and issues were written on
>>>   sheets that had been folded into three spaces, so that translations
>>>   could be added by other participants.
>>>   I was wondering how they would manage in the breakout sessions. To my
>>>   surprise, a number of the breakout sessions used Russian... so there was
>>>   a common language? On inquiry, I was told that it would never do to use
>>>   Russian in an event like this, at least not in the "official" parts.
>>>   Ok, be prepared to be surprised.
>>> 
>>>   Here is a short summary of some aspects of this event back in 2002 as
>>>   recorded in the Open Space worldscape
>>> 
>>>   
>>> http://openspace-landschaft.de/an_veran.asp?veranstaltungId=1041=en_seite=ue_veranstaltung.asp=10==9=0
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   Reading through this report I noticed that I did not include the
>>>   part about Russian in my note... hmmm? Political correctness?
>>> 
>>>   A few years later, Harrison came to Berlin and did his three day
>>>   Practice of Peace event. Every day starts with a lecture followed by
>>>   an open space on the theme of the lecture. On the first day,
>>>   Harrison introduced the process, on the second day a colleague from
>>>   Russia did it in Russian and on the third day I did it without using
>>>   spoken words.
>>>   To me, the most memorable moment was during the Russian introduction
>>>   (not being translated) when pretty much at the beginning a
>>>   participant ran to the Russian colleague, kneeled in front of her
>>>   pleading, in English, to please translate her introduction. At that
>>>   moment, his friend that he sat next to in the circle called out:

Re: [OSList] Interdisciplinary Research dreaming

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Michael
Yes, despite reservations it has been done.  As facilitator for a multi 
discipline team we involved community's across a whole river catchment and an 
irrigation area that generates over a billion dollars a year.  The process 
followed open space principles and the visible procedure was the development of 
scenarios.  These scenarios created possible drivers, possible, interactions 
across the community including research to explore possible consequences.  The 
principle outcome was a community skilled in the art of dialogue and open to 
all possibilities including that there may be multiple best actions.

The reality was that it perturbed the research community who very quickly 
identified with the possibilities of cutting edge (high profile, high profit, 
highly desirable) research.  This went hand in hand with those who's concern 
was the development of healthy and sustainable communities including the arts 
(yes poetry, stories and pictures were all pat of the outputs).

The project cost about $5 million and ran for four years.  The stakeholders 
were well pleased with their investment and the community has developed their 
own form of "organisation" to sustain their journey.  At the same time the 
establishment wanted to control the process, without success.  Independent 
evaluation and Peer review summarised the project as exemplar and leading the 
way in effective community development.

The bis issue has been that the success has intimidating for some and like most 
self organising systems it retreated  back to the safe zone when pressured.   
This whole process Tok place while there was an 80% downturn in participants in 
the principle industry Dairy!

Yes it has been done, very successfully.  The system behind has arranged itself 
in a totally new way without the need for me the hold the helm.

Please try, success is just mm away!

The postscript is that one minor sponsor asked me to run a session to explore 
opportunities for his company to invest in research over a five year period.  
The outcome was that some researches got involved and really put in on the day, 
others opposed the openness and diversity. Result, the nay Sayers did not get 
invited to the second round where actual projects were evaluated.   This 
sponsor asked me "What is wrong with these people, can't they see the 
opportunity?"  My response was that it is their choice and their future and 
just let them go.  One person who was in a position of control "outside the 
workshop" wanted to stop the process as it was "out of control" (his control) 
the whole workshop community responded by asking him to sit down and get on 
with the tasks at hand. Self organising self control.

Regards
Rob

> On 6 Oct 2015, at 8:53 am, Harrison Owen via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Michael ... I think it is a superb idea, and to the best of my knowledge, it
> has never been done. But I pretty sure there isn't a university on the
> planet that would have the guts to try it. I would love to be proved wrong,
> but in the meantime it seems to me that every person in the world has a
> superb opportunity. At a time of their choosing, and a place of their
> comfort, they may open the space for sharing and caring about something of
> importance. I think that is called Learning. Were universities to do more of
> it...
> 
> Harrison
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of
> Michael Wood via OSList
> Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 10:42 PM
> To: oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
> Subject: [OSList] Interdisciplinary Research dreaming
> 
> A few years ago I was invited by a learning and development company to
> facilitate a weekend of Open Space for the whole company, on the question of
> 'New Business Development ideas for..'x' company'.
> 
> It was an incredibly creative and fun weekend in which many ideas were
> floated and talked about. Towards the end, one or two key ideas distilled
> out, which the group was willing to put further time into and which the
> company directors thoughts was a viable business proposition to invest more
> time in. The idea went on to make millions of dollars for the company. The
> directors were pretty happy about the return on investment from taking their
> entire staff away for two days.
> 
> What would happen if someone in a university were to sponsor an
> interdisciplinary dreaming day on 'new research possibilities', which
> enabled people to float out their wackiest and most exciting emergent ideas
> (one's which perhaps are just a 'flicker')  - and allow the miracle of self
> organisation to enable cross disciplinary conversation to occur (poets
> asking questions of engineers (and visa versa); business school leaders
> asking questions of marine biologists (and visa versa).
> 
> Is anyone aware of this having happened in any university in the world? If
> so, can you refer me to the person who organised it or 

Re: [OSList] Save the Dates -- OSonOSinOZ in Melbourne 2015

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Andrew
I have the date locked in.  I would also like to explore an world OSonOS back 
in Marysville in 2019.  10 years after the Fire and 17 years after our previous 
world OSonOS in 2012 (the beginning of the full impact of the drought, the 
first time we had a total fire ban in the first week in November).  

The new resort is now up and running and can host over 100 people.  I thought 
we could look at another Spring event after the AFL final and before the 
Melbourne Cup so  airfares  would not be at a premium.

It could be a chance to focus on living with major climate change while 
supporting a new and emerging community. 

What do you think?

Regards
Rob

> On 23 Sep 2015, at 10:09 am, Andrew Rixon via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Are you an Open Space Technology Practictioner?
> 
> Have you been setting the power of self-organisation to work with large 
> groups of people?
> 
> On Thursday 10th December 2015 in Melbourne we will be hosting an OSonOSinOZ 
> ... It's been a while since the last one.. and this is especially for those 
> who either can't make it or can't wait for the WOSonOS 2016 in the 
> Phillipines. ;-)
> 
> So -- if you'd love to come and explore your experiences and edges around 
> being an OST practitioner with others -- Save the date... Thursday 10th 
> December 2015 I'll be sending out more information about this soon -- 
> including an eventbrite registration link.
> 
> And...
> 
> Following the OSonOSinOZ, Viv McWaters and I will be hosting an OST Training 
> Workshop to help you develop your confidence to jump in and start putting the 
> power of self-organisation to work. ;-)
> 
> So -- if you'd love to come and learn how to facilitate using OST -- Save the 
> date .. Friday 11th December 2015 .. I'll be sending out more info soon re an 
> eventbrite registration link.
> 
> Warm regards,
> Andrew
> 
> -- 
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Re: [OSList] Summer research project idea: 'self organisation'

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Thank you Harrison.  The vital part of the process is that we are part of it!  
Just as Darwin encouraged us to look at the origin of species in a different 
way (Newtonian physics) so does Richard Dawkins The selfish gene first in its 
original form then in Dawkins' explanation  in the past few years of selfish 
- the difference between domination and being successful in one's self.(almost 
quantum physics)

I believe Dawkins' recent work tells us a lot about how systems work.  
Remembering that history is almost always told by the victors or successful 
survivors.  Dawkins' work also provides one view into the role of the 
facilitator and the perturbance of  the current order that allows a different 
form of the organisms in the system to thrive.

I can but encourage a closer look at the natural system, as we are a part of it 
despite the fact that many believe that they are not because humankind has 
moved beyond...   I don't think so!  I also suggest that we can look at the 
succession of success for the perspective of the unsuccessful (at the time) and 
reflect on how the intellectual capital can so easily be lost ( e.g. The  
indigenous peoples of the Americas).  Also how fragile systems can be 
especially when Humankind wilfully exploits the system beyond its capacity to 
renew or sustain itself. ( fossil fuels, the passenger pigeon)

Yes I look forward to the results of the research.



Regards
Rob

 On 1 Dec 2014, at 4:41 am, Harrison Owen via OSList 
 oslist@lists.openspacetech.org wrote:
 
 Kari – I totally agree with your congratulatory note to Dan for having 
 introduced ecology to our discussion. Thinking about self organization in the 
 abstract gets pretty fuzzy, and limiting the conversation to OST is 
 ...limiting. But seen in a broader context (the biosphere), things become 
 quite juicy and exciting, I think. For example, it has often occurred to me 
 that you could look at “The Origin of the Species” as an early treatise on 
 self organization. It is quite unlikely that Darwin would have recognized the 
 terms (self organization), but the story he tells is a rich description of 
 the natural self organizing world. To be sure there are some holes in his 
 description, leading to no small amount of debate in the years following 
 publication, but the basic story line is pretty clear to me – given a rich 
 diversity stressed internally and externally by environmental forces, 
 wonderful things emerge. And there wasn’t an executive committee in sight!
  
 If this story happens to be a remotely accurate description of the natural 
 world of living creatures, I find it very hard to understand how it could be 
 that creatures lately arrived, namely us, could be excluded. The notion that 
 all human systems are essentially self organizing, therefore is not a strange 
 one. What would be strange is the suggestion that we had somehow escaped what 
 is apparently a fundamental rule of the Biosphere. Your comment ... “I see 
 that there is selfe-organization at work all the time” therefore is not only 
 spot on – it is actually a blinding flash of the obvious. Well done!
  
 I joke, but with serious intent. When doing our research it is most important 
 not only to understand what we are looking at (re-searching), but also and 
 equally importantly, how we see it. The object of our affection would seem to 
 be organizations, particularly human ones. But how do we view them? I think 
 it fair to say that the “standard” view point considers organizations to be 
 creatures of our making. We designed, control, and run them. Full stop. That 
 there may be an additional phenomenon called “self organization” is admitted 
 as a possible, but never to be confused with the reality of organization in 
 the human sphere.
  
 An alternative view sees human systems as a (minor) subset of all natural 
 systems, possessing certain distinguishing characteristics for sure, but 
 never the less woven out of the same cloth and sharing all the fundamental 
 features, including self organization.
  
 Doubtless what I have said above seems some less than revolutionary and no 
 more than you might have expected from me. Some might even accuse me of being 
 rather a broken record, if you are old enough to remember such things (broken 
 records). But my purpose in repeating myself is to starkly contrast the two 
 viewpoints – which constitute (I think) totally different paradigms. And if 
 Thomas Kuhn is correct in his analysis, the distance between two paradigms is 
 enormous to the point that what makes sense in one paradigm is understood to 
 be totally crazy in the other. One immediate impact of all this is that 
 mutual understanding between those holding one paradigm or the other is 
 minimal, to say the least.
  
 The classic case, or course are the paradigms represented by Newtonian 
 Physics and Quantum Mechanics. For those anchored in the Newtonian world 
 (which would be most of us)—the world of 

Re: [OSList] Summer research project idea: 'self organisation'

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Thank you Harrison.  The vital part of the process is that we are part of it!  
Just as Darwin encouraged us to look at the origin of species in a different 
way (Newtonian physics) so does Richard Dawkins The selfish gene first in its 
original form then in Dawkins' explanation  in the past few years of selfish 
- the difference between domination and being successful in one's self.(almost 
quantum physics)

I believe Dawkins' recent work tells us a lot about how systems work.  
Remembering that history is almost always told by the victors or successful 
survivors.  Dawkins' work also provides one view into the role of the 
facilitator and the perturbance of  the current order that allows a different 
form of the organisms in the system to thrive.

I can but encourage a closer look at the natural system, as we are a part of it 
despite the fact that many believe that they are not because humankind has 
moved beyond...   I don't think so!  I also suggest that we can look at the 
succession of success for the perspective of the unsuccessful (at the time) and 
reflect on how the intellectual capital can so easily be lost ( e.g. The  
indigenous peoples of the Americas).  Also how fragile systems can be 
especially when Humankind wilfully exploits the system beyond its capacity to 
renew or sustain itself. ( fossil fuels, the passenger pigeon)

Yes I look forward to the results of the research.



Regards
Rob

 On 1 Dec 2014, at 4:41 am, Harrison Owen via OSList 
 oslist@lists.openspacetech.org wrote:
 
 Kari – I totally agree with your congratulatory note to Dan for having 
 introduced ecology to our discussion. Thinking about self organization in the 
 abstract gets pretty fuzzy, and limiting the conversation to OST is 
 ...limiting. But seen in a broader context (the biosphere), things become 
 quite juicy and exciting, I think. For example, it has often occurred to me 
 that you could look at “The Origin of the Species” as an early treatise on 
 self organization. It is quite unlikely that Darwin would have recognized the 
 terms (self organization), but the story he tells is a rich description of 
 the natural self organizing world. To be sure there are some holes in his 
 description, leading to no small amount of debate in the years following 
 publication, but the basic story line is pretty clear to me – given a rich 
 diversity stressed internally and externally by environmental forces, 
 wonderful things emerge. And there wasn’t an executive committee in sight!
  
 If this story happens to be a remotely accurate description of the natural 
 world of living creatures, I find it very hard to understand how it could be 
 that creatures lately arrived, namely us, could be excluded. The notion that 
 all human systems are essentially self organizing, therefore is not a strange 
 one. What would be strange is the suggestion that we had somehow escaped what 
 is apparently a fundamental rule of the Biosphere. Your comment ... “I see 
 that there is selfe-organization at work all the time” therefore is not only 
 spot on – it is actually a blinding flash of the obvious. Well done!
  
 I joke, but with serious intent. When doing our research it is most important 
 not only to understand what we are looking at (re-searching), but also and 
 equally importantly, how we see it. The object of our affection would seem to 
 be organizations, particularly human ones. But how do we view them? I think 
 it fair to say that the “standard” view point considers organizations to be 
 creatures of our making. We designed, control, and run them. Full stop. That 
 there may be an additional phenomenon called “self organization” is admitted 
 as a possible, but never to be confused with the reality of organization in 
 the human sphere.
  
 An alternative view sees human systems as a (minor) subset of all natural 
 systems, possessing certain distinguishing characteristics for sure, but 
 never the less woven out of the same cloth and sharing all the fundamental 
 features, including self organization.
  
 Doubtless what I have said above seems some less than revolutionary and no 
 more than you might have expected from me. Some might even accuse me of being 
 rather a broken record, if you are old enough to remember such things (broken 
 records). But my purpose in repeating myself is to starkly contrast the two 
 viewpoints – which constitute (I think) totally different paradigms. And if 
 Thomas Kuhn is correct in his analysis, the distance between two paradigms is 
 enormous to the point that what makes sense in one paradigm is understood to 
 be totally crazy in the other. One immediate impact of all this is that 
 mutual understanding between those holding one paradigm or the other is 
 minimal, to say the least.
  
 The classic case, or course are the paradigms represented by Newtonian 
 Physics and Quantum Mechanics. For those anchored in the Newtonian world 
 (which would be most of us)—the world of 

Re: [OSList] Summer research project idea: 'self organisation'

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Thank you Harrison.  The vital part of the process is that we are part of it!  
Just as Darwin encouraged us to look at the origin of species in a different 
way (Newtonian physics) so does Richard Dawkins The selfish gene first in its 
original form then in Dawkins' explanation  in the past few years of selfish 
- the difference between domination and being successful in one's self.(almost 
quantum physics)

I believe Dawkins' recent work tells us a lot about how systems work.  
Remembering that history is almost always told by the victors or successful 
survivors.  Dawkins' work also provides one view into the role of the 
facilitator and the perturbance of  the current order that allows a different 
form of the organisms in the system to thrive.

I can but encourage a closer look at the natural system, as we are a part of it 
despite the fact that many believe that they are not because humankind has 
moved beyond...   I don't think so!  I also suggest that we can look at the 
succession of success for the perspective of the unsuccessful (at the time) and 
reflect on how the intellectual capital can so easily be lost ( e.g. The  
indigenous peoples of the Americas).  Also how fragile systems can be 
especially when Humankind wilfully exploits the system beyond its capacity to 
renew or sustain itself. ( fossil fuels, the passenger pigeon)

Yes I look forward to the results of the research.



Regards
Rob

 On 1 Dec 2014, at 4:41 am, Harrison Owen via OSList 
 oslist@lists.openspacetech.org wrote:
 
 Kari – I totally agree with your congratulatory note to Dan for having 
 introduced ecology to our discussion. Thinking about self organization in the 
 abstract gets pretty fuzzy, and limiting the conversation to OST is 
 ...limiting. But seen in a broader context (the biosphere), things become 
 quite juicy and exciting, I think. For example, it has often occurred to me 
 that you could look at “The Origin of the Species” as an early treatise on 
 self organization. It is quite unlikely that Darwin would have recognized the 
 terms (self organization), but the story he tells is a rich description of 
 the natural self organizing world. To be sure there are some holes in his 
 description, leading to no small amount of debate in the years following 
 publication, but the basic story line is pretty clear to me – given a rich 
 diversity stressed internally and externally by environmental forces, 
 wonderful things emerge. And there wasn’t an executive committee in sight!
  
 If this story happens to be a remotely accurate description of the natural 
 world of living creatures, I find it very hard to understand how it could be 
 that creatures lately arrived, namely us, could be excluded. The notion that 
 all human systems are essentially self organizing, therefore is not a strange 
 one. What would be strange is the suggestion that we had somehow escaped what 
 is apparently a fundamental rule of the Biosphere. Your comment ... “I see 
 that there is selfe-organization at work all the time” therefore is not only 
 spot on – it is actually a blinding flash of the obvious. Well done!
  
 I joke, but with serious intent. When doing our research it is most important 
 not only to understand what we are looking at (re-searching), but also and 
 equally importantly, how we see it. The object of our affection would seem to 
 be organizations, particularly human ones. But how do we view them? I think 
 it fair to say that the “standard” view point considers organizations to be 
 creatures of our making. We designed, control, and run them. Full stop. That 
 there may be an additional phenomenon called “self organization” is admitted 
 as a possible, but never to be confused with the reality of organization in 
 the human sphere.
  
 An alternative view sees human systems as a (minor) subset of all natural 
 systems, possessing certain distinguishing characteristics for sure, but 
 never the less woven out of the same cloth and sharing all the fundamental 
 features, including self organization.
  
 Doubtless what I have said above seems some less than revolutionary and no 
 more than you might have expected from me. Some might even accuse me of being 
 rather a broken record, if you are old enough to remember such things (broken 
 records). But my purpose in repeating myself is to starkly contrast the two 
 viewpoints – which constitute (I think) totally different paradigms. And if 
 Thomas Kuhn is correct in his analysis, the distance between two paradigms is 
 enormous to the point that what makes sense in one paradigm is understood to 
 be totally crazy in the other. One immediate impact of all this is that 
 mutual understanding between those holding one paradigm or the other is 
 minimal, to say the least.
  
 The classic case, or course are the paradigms represented by Newtonian 
 Physics and Quantum Mechanics. For those anchored in the Newtonian world 
 (which would be most of us)—the world of 

Re: [OSList] Opening space with people with psychiatric disorders

[R Chaffe via OSList]

 who ever comes is the right people.   

Having spent the past 7 years working directly with persons with a diagnosed 
disability and 20 years working in the wider community (often with people under 
significant stress) the same challenge remains and that is to unconditionally 
accept people on their terms and as they are. 

 The second challenge is give them the security of an Open Space where they can 
be heard, that is I need to listen.  

Rev Ray Richmond ( of the Wayside Chapel  Kings Cross Sydney) gave me one rule 
and  - harm to others is totally unacceptable and that is where a facilitator 
must intervene to secure the space.

Maslow highlighted the conditions under which people can reach their full 
potential and safety and security are two conditions that are essential.

Facilitating Open Space I can only make one promise and that is to the best of 
my ability I will create and maintain a secure space where the participants can 
do what ever they do.  I can only promise the environment not the outputs or 
the outcomes.  The challenge to the sponsor is are they willing to let the 
participants choose?  

The law of two feet is always an option.

Working with adult persons with a disability it is a wonder when they are given 
permission to actually do their own thing  rather than play a role to meet 
others expectations.  Too often I have found that these adults have been micro 
managed to a level very few of us would accept.   When I released  the 
shackles of this control the wealth of contribution is spectacular.

At the end of one Open Space event where the participants were encouraged to 
look for issues and opportunities in their work place.  The participants were 
encouraged to make a paper aeroplane ( including one person who had spent most 
of her adult life to the age of 45 in mental institution).  Then each ( with 
their own design) launched their aircraft.  Each person was then asked to 
choose one flight that best described their work place .  The insights 
and conversations that were shared were very rich - in their own way in their 
own words they gave a graphic and very accurate picture of the workplace and 
a set of opportunities which can only be describe as inspirational.

As Harrison said the rewards outweigh the effort - trust the system and keep 
the space and of course a nap is always a good option.

Regards
Rob

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Re: [OSList] Opening space with people with psychiatric disorders

[R Chaffe via OSList]

 who ever comes is the right people.   

Having spent the past 7 years working directly with persons with a diagnosed 
disability and 20 years working in the wider community (often with people under 
significant stress) the same challenge remains and that is to unconditionally 
accept people on their terms and as they are. 

 The second challenge is give them the security of an Open Space where they can 
be heard, that is I need to listen.  

Rev Ray Richmond ( of the Wayside Chapel  Kings Cross Sydney) gave me one rule 
and  - harm to others is totally unacceptable and that is where a facilitator 
must intervene to secure the space.

Maslow highlighted the conditions under which people can reach their full 
potential and safety and security are two conditions that are essential.

Facilitating Open Space I can only make one promise and that is to the best of 
my ability I will create and maintain a secure space where the participants can 
do what ever they do.  I can only promise the environment not the outputs or 
the outcomes.  The challenge to the sponsor is are they willing to let the 
participants choose?  

The law of two feet is always an option.

Working with adult persons with a disability it is a wonder when they are given 
permission to actually do their own thing  rather than play a role to meet 
others expectations.  Too often I have found that these adults have been micro 
managed to a level very few of us would accept.   When I released  the 
shackles of this control the wealth of contribution is spectacular.

At the end of one Open Space event where the participants were encouraged to 
look for issues and opportunities in their work place.  The participants were 
encouraged to make a paper aeroplane ( including one person who had spent most 
of her adult life to the age of 45 in mental institution).  Then each ( with 
their own design) launched their aircraft.  Each person was then asked to 
choose one flight that best described their work place .  The insights 
and conversations that were shared were very rich - in their own way in their 
own words they gave a graphic and very accurate picture of the workplace and 
a set of opportunities which can only be describe as inspirational.

As Harrison said the rewards outweigh the effort - trust the system and keep 
the space and of course a nap is always a good option.

Regards
Rob

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Re: [OSList] Opening space with people with psychiatric disorders

[R Chaffe via OSList]

 who ever comes is the right people.   

Having spent the past 7 years working directly with persons with a diagnosed 
disability and 20 years working in the wider community (often with people under 
significant stress) the same challenge remains and that is to unconditionally 
accept people on their terms and as they are. 

 The second challenge is give them the security of an Open Space where they can 
be heard, that is I need to listen.  

Rev Ray Richmond ( of the Wayside Chapel  Kings Cross Sydney) gave me one rule 
and  - harm to others is totally unacceptable and that is where a facilitator 
must intervene to secure the space.

Maslow highlighted the conditions under which people can reach their full 
potential and safety and security are two conditions that are essential.

Facilitating Open Space I can only make one promise and that is to the best of 
my ability I will create and maintain a secure space where the participants can 
do what ever they do.  I can only promise the environment not the outputs or 
the outcomes.  The challenge to the sponsor is are they willing to let the 
participants choose?  

The law of two feet is always an option.

Working with adult persons with a disability it is a wonder when they are given 
permission to actually do their own thing  rather than play a role to meet 
others expectations.  Too often I have found that these adults have been micro 
managed to a level very few of us would accept.   When I released  the 
shackles of this control the wealth of contribution is spectacular.

At the end of one Open Space event where the participants were encouraged to 
look for issues and opportunities in their work place.  The participants were 
encouraged to make a paper aeroplane ( including one person who had spent most 
of her adult life to the age of 45 in mental institution).  Then each ( with 
their own design) launched their aircraft.  Each person was then asked to 
choose one flight that best described their work place .  The insights 
and conversations that were shared were very rich - in their own way in their 
own words they gave a graphic and very accurate picture of the workplace and 
a set of opportunities which can only be describe as inspirational.

As Harrison said the rewards outweigh the effort - trust the system and keep 
the space and of course a nap is always a good option.

Regards
Rob

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