Re: [OSList] Asking for your wisdom - Leora Tushinski
Hi Leora, Time flies! I see now you asked these question all the way back on 3 March! Seems like yesterday when I planned to answer “tomorrow”. I also see you got some great answers. I’m holding some fairly intensive training workshops. In the workshops we are developing the the mindset of the Open Space Facilitator and applying it to facilitation or to leadership. You said you were wondering how to "hold" the tension between the "freedom" in the OS method, and “purposefulness” needed in most of the processes. And more, how can we avoid the "loose" rules lead to "anarchy", especially in complex environment? You got some great answers here that I really appreciate. I can tell you that the last few cohorts of our workshop really grappled with these same questions as facilitators — especially online (in a distributed / remote space) where conventional wisdom is that this already borders on anarchy and people have been told you need more rules online not less. I’d like to invite you (and anyone else from this list) to an upcoming Open Space Leadership (OSL) workshop when you’re able to join us. (Details here https://coachingcocktails.com/osworkshop) You’ll really get to dig into the exact questions you asked, and we’ll work together as a cohort so you that you can really develop and practice an understanding of some of the answers you got. (We use Michael Hermann’s book in the course … I think he was one of the people who answered. :) The workshop is 4x 3hr online course sessions. The sessions are always live and instructor(that’s me)-led. I also ask you to commit to 1-3 hours of self-study and pair work with a partner from the cohort between sessions. The usual fees are €684 per person, but if you book today it’s only €534 because of early bunny pricing Let me know how I can answer your questions about the workshops. Sorry with the holidays and what not I didn’t get a chance to tell you about his sooner. There are three upcoming cohorts staring this month and next month if you’d like to join one. Here again is the information that’s online: https://coachingcocktails.com/osworkshop Cheers, Steve On 3 Mar 2021, at 11:12, leora tushinski via OSList wrote: Hello everyone, This is my first time in the OSList and I am writing to ask for the wisdom I am sure is held in this group. My name is Leora and I'm a student of "Dialogic interventions in Large group" , held by Tova Averbuch and Rotem Ofer. As a manager I have a challenge (and maybe a fear): wondering how to "hold" the tension between the "freedom" in the OS method, and “purposefulness” needed in most of the processes . How can we expect to get to "bottom lines" (get the work done) when we depend only on the people who come, and what they decide…? And more, how can we avoid the "loose" rules lead to "anarchy", especially in complex environment? I will appreciate your time, attention and wisdom Thank you Leora Israel *050-6207543 (972)* *בברכה,* *ליאורה * *050-6207543* ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org Open Space Leadership Agile Product Ownership Agile Abundance Certified Strategic Play™ Facilitator using the LEGO® SERIOUS PLAY® Method and Materials Steve Holyer and Associates co...@steveholyer.com +41-79-606-7105 Zurich, Switzerland https://steveholyer.com ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
Re: [OSList] Asking for your wisdom - Leora Tushinski
can look to each other for partnership and support in > accomplishing purposes they care about. > > One other item I want to unpack: “if we depend only on the people who > come”…I have come to believe that, in addition to developing a thoughtful, > purposeful, meaningful calling question, one of the most important aspects > of preparing for an Open Space is attending to who is invited. It is the > job of the organizers to do the work to ensure they have invited people > from the whole system. I interpret the principle about "whoever comes are > the right people" not as a "leave it to chance" perspective but rather as a > "be at peace” perspective that those who show up will figure it out. > > As a facilitator, I consider an important part of my job is to work with > the sponsor/organizing team to understand who makes up the system so that > the sponsor/organizing team invites them. Harrison describes the people to > be invited as the "people who care". Since it isn’t always obvious, I take > a cue from Marv Weisbord and Sandra Janoff and use a rubric from Future > Search in how I think about who cares. I work with the organizers to > identify the people who “ARE IN”: with Authority, Resources, Expertise, > Information, and Need. And then I bring a diversity lens to it to help the > sponsor/organizing team to determine, which, if any, of these demographic > dimensions are important: age, race, gender, geography, socio-economics, > political perspective, and religion. Doing the work of inviting people from > the whole system lays the groundwork so that you can depend on the people > who come. > > Open Space gives us practice in experiencing what networked-based > organizing feels like. Newtonian science was mirrored in the organizational > form that emerged during its day: hierarchy. As we come to understand the > science of complexity, we’re beginning to recognize something that was > always there: our most effective form for human organizing today is in > networks. Open Space just helps us do it consciously. > > Enjoy your work with Tova! > > Peggy > > > > > > Peggy Holman > Co-founder > Journalism That Matters > 15347 SE 49th Place > Bellevue, WA 98006 > 206-948-0432 > www.journalismthatmatters.org > www.peggyholman.com > Twitter: @peggyholman > JTM Twitter: @JTMStream > > Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into > Opportunity <http://www.engagingemergence.com/> > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 5, 2021, at 12:28 AM, Thomas Herrmann via OSList < > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > > Hi Leora and welcome to OS-list! > Much wisdom has already been shared. > I usually invite my clients to some good pre-work to have clarity on > purpose, goals and to create clarity on the conditions/givens including > clarifying support for the continuous process after the event. Then they > have the task to create an irresistible invitation and spread it as widely > as possible, to all who may be interested… then trust the principle: > Whoever comes… > It’s wise to involve different stakeholders in the pre-work too, so they > are engaged and ambassadors to spreading the word. > Good luck > Thomas Herrmann, sending greetings from Sweden – please extend my warmest > greetings to Tova too! > > *Från:* OSList *För *leora > tushinski via OSList > *Skickat:* den 3 mars 2021 11:13 > *Till:* oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > *Kopia:* leora tushinski > *Ämne:* [OSList] Asking for your wisdom - Leora Tushinski > > > Hello everyone, > > > This is my first time in the OSList and I am writing to ask for the wisdom > I am sure is held in this group. > > My name is Leora and I'm a student of "Dialogic interventions in Large > group" , held by Tova Averbuch and Rotem Ofer. > > As a manager I have a challenge (and maybe a fear): wondering how to > "hold" the tension between the "freedom" in the OS method, and > “purposefulness” needed in most of the processes . > > How can we expect to get to "bottom lines" (get the work done) when we > depend only on the people who come, and what they decide…? > > And more, how can we avoid the "loose" rules lead to "anarchy", > especially in complex environment? > > I will appreciate your time, attention and wisdom > > Thank you > > Leora > > Israel > > > *050-6207543 (972)* > > *בברכה,* > *ליאורה* > > *050-6207543* > ___ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an
Re: [OSList] Asking for your wisdom - Leora Tushinski
quot;. Since it isn’t always obvious, I take a cue > from Marv Weisbord and Sandra Janoff and use a rubric from Future Search in > how I think about who cares. I work with the organizers to identify the > people who “ARE IN”: with Authority, Resources, Expertise, Information, and > Need. And then I bring a diversity lens to it to help the sponsor/organizing > team to determine, which, if any, of these demographic dimensions are > important: age, race, gender, geography, socio-economics, political > perspective, and religion. Doing the work of inviting people from the whole > system lays the groundwork so that you can depend on the people who come. > > Open Space gives us practice in experiencing what networked-based organizing > feels like. Newtonian science was mirrored in the organizational form that > emerged during its day: hierarchy. As we come to understand the science of > complexity, we’re beginning to recognize something that was always there: our > most effective form for human organizing today is in networks. Open Space > just helps us do it consciously. > > Enjoy your work with Tova! > > Peggy > > > > > > Peggy Holman > Co-founder > Journalism That Matters > 15347 SE 49th Place > Bellevue, WA 98006 > 206-948-0432 > www.journalismthatmatters.org <http://www.journalismthatmatters.org/> > www.peggyholman.com > Twitter: @peggyholman > JTM Twitter: @JTMStream > > Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into Opportunity > <http://www.engagingemergence.com/> > > > > > > > > > >> On Mar 5, 2021, at 12:28 AM, Thomas Herrmann via OSList >> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> >> wrote: >> >> Hi Leora and welcome to OS-list! >> Much wisdom has already been shared. >> I usually invite my clients to some good pre-work to have clarity on >> purpose, goals and to create clarity on the conditions/givens including >> clarifying support for the continuous process after the event. Then they >> have the task to create an irresistible invitation and spread it as widely >> as possible, to all who may be interested… then trust the principle: Whoever >> comes… >> It’s wise to involve different stakeholders in the pre-work too, so they are >> engaged and ambassadors to spreading the word. >> Good luck >> Thomas Herrmann, sending greetings from Sweden – please extend my warmest >> greetings to Tova too! >> >> Från: OSList > <mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org>> För leora tushinski via >> OSList >> Skickat: den 3 mars 2021 11:13 >> Till: oslist@lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> >> Kopia: leora tushinski mailto:tushinle...@gmail.com>> >> Ämne: [OSList] Asking for your wisdom - Leora Tushinski >> >> Hello everyone, >> >> >> This is my first time in the OSList and I am writing to ask for the wisdom I >> am sure is held in this group. >> >> My name is Leora and I'm a student of "Dialogic interventions in Large >> group" , held by Tova Averbuch and Rotem Ofer. >> >> As a manager I have a challenge (and maybe a fear): wondering how to "hold" >> the tension between the "freedom" in the OS method, and “purposefulness” >> needed in most of the processes . >> >> How can we expect to get to "bottom lines" (get the work done) when we >> depend only on the people who come, and what they decide…? >> >> And more, how can we avoid the "loose" rules lead to "anarchy", >> especially in complex environment? >> >> I will appreciate your time, attention and wisdom >> >> Thank you >> >> Leora >> >> Israel >> >> >> >> 050-6207543 (972) >> >> בברכה, >> ליאורה >> >> 050-6207543 >> ___ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> <mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org> >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >> <mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org> >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> <http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org> >> Past archives can be viewed here: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > ___ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
Re: [OSList] Asking for your wisdom - Leora Tushinski
or human organizing today is in networks. Open Space just helps us do it consciously. Enjoy your work with Tova! Peggy Peggy Holman Co-founder Journalism That Matters 15347 SE 49th Place Bellevue, WA 98006 206-948-0432 www.journalismthatmatters.org www.peggyholman.com Twitter: @peggyholman JTM Twitter: @JTMStream Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into Opportunity <http://www.engagingemergence.com/> > On Mar 5, 2021, at 12:28 AM, Thomas Herrmann via OSList > wrote: > > Hi Leora and welcome to OS-list! > Much wisdom has already been shared. > I usually invite my clients to some good pre-work to have clarity on purpose, > goals and to create clarity on the conditions/givens including clarifying > support for the continuous process after the event. Then they have the task > to create an irresistible invitation and spread it as widely as possible, to > all who may be interested… then trust the principle: Whoever comes… > It’s wise to involve different stakeholders in the pre-work too, so they are > engaged and ambassadors to spreading the word. > Good luck > Thomas Herrmann, sending greetings from Sweden – please extend my warmest > greetings to Tova too! > > Från: OSList <mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org>> För leora tushinski via > OSList > Skickat: den 3 mars 2021 11:13 > Till: oslist@lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Kopia: leora tushinski mailto:tushinle...@gmail.com>> > Ämne: [OSList] Asking for your wisdom - Leora Tushinski > > Hello everyone, > > > This is my first time in the OSList and I am writing to ask for the wisdom I > am sure is held in this group. > > My name is Leora and I'm a student of "Dialogic interventions in Large group" > , held by Tova Averbuch and Rotem Ofer. > > As a manager I have a challenge (and maybe a fear): wondering how to "hold" > the tension between the "freedom" in the OS method, and “purposefulness” > needed in most of the processes . > > How can we expect to get to "bottom lines" (get the work done) when we depend > only on the people who come, and what they decide…? > > And more, how can we avoid the "loose" rules lead to "anarchy", > especially in complex environment? > > I will appreciate your time, attention and wisdom > > Thank you > > Leora > > Israel > > > > 050-6207543 (972) > > בברכה, > ליאורה > > 050-6207543 > ___ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > <mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org> > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > <mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org> > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org> > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > <http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
Re: [OSList] Asking for your wisdom - Leora Tushinski
Hi Leora and welcome to OS-list! Much wisdom has already been shared. I usually invite my clients to some good pre-work to have clarity on purpose, goals and to create clarity on the conditions/givens including clarifying support for the continuous process after the event. Then they have the task to create an irresistible invitation and spread it as widely as possible, to all who may be interested… then trust the principle: Whoever comes… It’s wise to involve different stakeholders in the pre-work too, so they are engaged and ambassadors to spreading the word. Good luck Thomas Herrmann, sending greetings from Sweden – please extend my warmest greetings to Tova too! Från: OSList För leora tushinski via OSList Skickat: den 3 mars 2021 11:13 Till: oslist@lists.openspacetech.org Kopia: leora tushinski Ämne: [OSList] Asking for your wisdom - Leora Tushinski Hello everyone, This is my first time in the OSList and I am writing to ask for the wisdom I am sure is held in this group. My name is Leora and I'm a student of "Dialogic interventions in Large group" , held by Tova Averbuch and Rotem Ofer. As a manager I have a challenge (and maybe a fear): wondering how to "hold" the tension between the "freedom" in the OS method, and “purposefulness” needed in most of the processes . How can we expect to get to "bottom lines" (get the work done) when we depend only on the people who come, and what they decide…? And more, how can we avoid the "loose" rules lead to "anarchy", especially in complex environment? I will appreciate your time, attention and wisdom Thank you Leora Israel 050-6207543 (972) בברכה, ליאורה 050-6207543 ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
Re: [OSList] Asking for your wisdom - Leora Tushinski
Leora, I'm reminded here of the frequently asked question, in open space, on day one, just before lunch... when the sponsoring leader has seen it all work out, the gathering, the agenda creation, the breakouts, the note-taking... and then, the next big hurdle is LUNCH. the buffet is ready and waiting. the leader comes to me and says, "lunch is ready, shouldn't i go around and let people know?" And my answer is always the same: "if you have to do anything, it will be enough to grab a sandwich and walk through the space chewing." To Harrison and Elwin's point, everything gets easier in open space. A little bit of invitation can go a long way, I would say, because the people are already hungry for good things to happen. Michael -- Michael Herman Michael Herman Associates 312-280-7838 (mobile) MichaelHerman.com OpenSpaceWorld.org On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 12:31 PM Elwin and Joan via OSList < oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > Leora, > > My 30 years in Open Space tells me your ONLY MANAGEMENT role is creating > the INVITATION. Full Stop! > All else is as Harrison has stated. > > eg > > On Wednesday, March 3, 2021, 09:43:25 AM EST, Harrison Owen SR via OSList < > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > > > Leora -- My very best to Tova! Holding the tension is a loosing game.. > Just open some space and if the people really care, they will get amazing > things accomplished with no intervention or supervision. Ask Tova about our > time together in Rome with 50 Palestinians and Israelis who were mostly > security types. At the start I remember standing behind two gentlemen I > didn't know. One said to the other, "This is really weird -- we are in > business to kill each other." Try it. Amazing things do happen. > > Harrison > > On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 9:34 AM David Osborne via OSList < > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > > Interesting question Leona. > > My answer is more about the principles of self-organization underneath > openspace (that I learned from Harrison over lunches and a cocktail or two > at the Glenn Echo Inn) than open space methodology. Open space requires > something to be urgent and important.otherwise people won't care and > they won't show up and invest in it. I think as a manager part of your role > is defining what's important to the organization and why in a way that > people care. and want to contribute this sets the direction for your > team or group. The urgent important issue is like the camp fire that you > can then invite people to gather around and discuss.it is your role as > manager to make the environment inclusive and safe for people to gather and > share their views and ideas openly until insight emerges about the > situation itself and what to do about it. The energy and motivation to > act will naturally arise at this point and you can help the group stay > connected and share information about progress and what's working and > what's not. It's all self-organizing or emergent change. Where Harrison > and I differed and I'm still exploring his view is whether we need to do > anything at all or whether it will all happen by itself. My view has been > that I care too, and I want to do something. I am part of the emergence. Is > my role necessary no. But without it something different will emerge. > Systems are always moving toward fragmentation or cohesion and your role as > manager will make a huge difference in which way they are headed. > > Thanks for your question, and my best to all. > > David > > *David R. Osborne* > Organization and Leadership Development > > 6402 Arlington Blvd., Suite 1120, Falls Church, VA 22042 > 703-939-1777 | dosbo...@change-fusion.com | change-fusion.com > > > On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 6:13 AM leora tushinski via OSList < > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > > This is my first time in the OSList and I am writing to ask for the wisdom > I am sure is held in this group. > > My name is Leora and I'm a student of "Dialogic interventions in Large > group" , held by Tova Averbuch and Rotem Ofer. > > As a manager I have a challenge (and maybe a fear): wondering how to > "hold" the tension between the "freedom" in the OS method, and > “purposefulness” needed in most of the processes . > > How can we expect to get to "bottom lines" (get the work done) when we > depend only on the people who come, and what they decide…? > > And more, how can we avoid the "loose" rules lead to "anarchy", > especially in complex environment? > > I will appreciate your time, attention and wisdom > > Thank you > > Leora > > Israel > > > *050-6207543 (972)* > > *בברכה,* > *ליאורה * > > *050-6207543* > ___ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslis
Re: [OSList] Asking for your wisdom - Leora Tushinski
Leora, My 30 years in Open Space tells me your ONLY MANAGEMENT role is creating the INVITATION. Full Stop! All else is as Harrison has stated. eg On Wednesday, March 3, 2021, 09:43:25 AM EST, Harrison Owen SR via OSList wrote: Leora -- My very best to Tova! Holding the tension is a loosing game.. Just open some space and if the people really care, they will get amazing things accomplished with no intervention or supervision. Ask Tova about our time together in Rome with 50 Palestinians and Israelis who were mostly security types. At the start I remember standing behind two gentlemen I didn't know. One said to the other, "This is really weird -- we are in business to kill each other." Try it. Amazing things do happen. Harrison On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 9:34 AM David Osborne via OSList wrote: Interesting question Leona. My answer is more about the principles of self-organization underneath openspace (that I learned from Harrison over lunches and a cocktail or two at the Glenn Echo Inn) than open space methodology. Open space requires something to be urgent and important.otherwise people won't care and they won't show up and invest in it. I think as a manager part of your role is defining what's important to the organization and why in a way that people care. and want to contribute this sets the direction for your team or group. The urgent important issue is like the camp fire that you can then invite people to gather around and discuss.it is your role as manager to make the environment inclusive and safe for people to gather and share their views and ideas openly until insight emerges about the situation itself and what to do about it. The energy and motivation to act will naturally arise at this point and you can help the group stay connected and share information about progress and what's working and what's not. It's all self-organizing or emergent change. Where Harrison and I differed and I'm still exploring his view is whether we need to do anything at all or whether it will all happen by itself. My view has been that I care too, and I want to do something. I am part of the emergence. Is my role necessary no. But without it something different will emerge. Systems are always moving toward fragmentation or cohesion and your role as manager will make a huge difference in which way they are headed. Thanks for your question, and my best to all. David David R. Osborne Organization and Leadership Development 6402 Arlington Blvd., Suite 1120, Falls Church, VA 22042 703-939-1777 | dosbo...@change-fusion.com | change-fusion.com On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 6:13 AM leora tushinski via OSList wrote: Hello everyone, This is my first time in the OSList and I am writing to ask for the wisdom I am sure is held in this group. My name is Leora and I'm a student of "Dialogic interventions in Large group" , held by Tova Averbuch and Rotem Ofer. As a manager I have a challenge (and maybe a fear): wondering how to "hold" the tension between the "freedom" in the OS method, and “purposefulness” needed in most of the processes . How can we expect to get to "bottom lines" (get the work done) when we depend only on the people who come, and what they decide…? And more, how can we avoid the "loose" rules lead to "anarchy", especially in complex environment? I will appreciate your time, attention and wisdom Thank you Leora Israel 050-6207543 (972) בברכה,ליאורה 050-6207543 ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacete
Re: [OSList] Asking for your wisdom - Leora Tushinski
Leora -- My very best to Tova! Holding the tension is a loosing game.. Just open some space and if the people really care, they will get amazing things accomplished with no intervention or supervision. Ask Tova about our time together in Rome with 50 Palestinians and Israelis who were mostly security types. At the start I remember standing behind two gentlemen I didn't know. One said to the other, "This is really weird -- we are in business to kill each other." Try it. Amazing things do happen. Harrison On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 9:34 AM David Osborne via OSList < oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > Interesting question Leona. > > My answer is more about the principles of self-organization underneath > openspace (that I learned from Harrison over lunches and a cocktail or two > at the Glenn Echo Inn) than open space methodology. Open space requires > something to be urgent and important.otherwise people won't care and > they won't show up and invest in it. I think as a manager part of your role > is defining what's important to the organization and why in a way that > people care. and want to contribute this sets the direction for your > team or group. The urgent important issue is like the camp fire that you > can then invite people to gather around and discuss.it is your role as > manager to make the environment inclusive and safe for people to gather and > share their views and ideas openly until insight emerges about the > situation itself and what to do about it. The energy and motivation to > act will naturally arise at this point and you can help the group stay > connected and share information about progress and what's working and > what's not. It's all self-organizing or emergent change. Where Harrison > and I differed and I'm still exploring his view is whether we need to do > anything at all or whether it will all happen by itself. My view has been > that I care too, and I want to do something. I am part of the emergence. Is > my role necessary no. But without it something different will emerge. > Systems are always moving toward fragmentation or cohesion and your role as > manager will make a huge difference in which way they are headed. > > Thanks for your question, and my best to all. > > David > > *David R. Osborne* > Organization and Leadership Development > > 6402 Arlington Blvd., Suite 1120, Falls Church, VA 22042 > 703-939-1777 | dosbo...@change-fusion.com | change-fusion.com > > > On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 6:13 AM leora tushinski via OSList < > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> >> This is my first time in the OSList and I am writing to ask for the >> wisdom I am sure is held in this group. >> >> My name is Leora and I'm a student of "Dialogic interventions in Large >> group" , held by Tova Averbuch and Rotem Ofer. >> >> As a manager I have a challenge (and maybe a fear): wondering how to >> "hold" the tension between the "freedom" in the OS method, and >> “purposefulness” needed in most of the processes . >> >> How can we expect to get to "bottom lines" (get the work done) when we >> depend only on the people who come, and what they decide…? >> >> And more, how can we avoid the "loose" rules lead to "anarchy", >> especially in complex environment? >> >> I will appreciate your time, attention and wisdom >> >> Thank you >> >> Leora >> >> Israel >> >> >> *050-6207543 (972)* >> >> *בברכה,* >> *ליאורה * >> >> *050-6207543* >> ___ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> Past archives can be viewed here: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > > ___ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
Re: [OSList] Asking for your wisdom - Leora Tushinski
Interesting question Leona. My answer is more about the principles of self-organization underneath openspace (that I learned from Harrison over lunches and a cocktail or two at the Glenn Echo Inn) than open space methodology. Open space requires something to be urgent and important.otherwise people won't care and they won't show up and invest in it. I think as a manager part of your role is defining what's important to the organization and why in a way that people care. and want to contribute this sets the direction for your team or group. The urgent important issue is like the camp fire that you can then invite people to gather around and discuss.it is your role as manager to make the environment inclusive and safe for people to gather and share their views and ideas openly until insight emerges about the situation itself and what to do about it. The energy and motivation to act will naturally arise at this point and you can help the group stay connected and share information about progress and what's working and what's not. It's all self-organizing or emergent change. Where Harrison and I differed and I'm still exploring his view is whether we need to do anything at all or whether it will all happen by itself. My view has been that I care too, and I want to do something. I am part of the emergence. Is my role necessary no. But without it something different will emerge. Systems are always moving toward fragmentation or cohesion and your role as manager will make a huge difference in which way they are headed. Thanks for your question, and my best to all. David *David R. Osborne* Organization and Leadership Development 6402 Arlington Blvd., Suite 1120, Falls Church, VA 22042 703-939-1777 | dosbo...@change-fusion.com | change-fusion.com On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 6:13 AM leora tushinski via OSList < oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > Hello everyone, > > > This is my first time in the OSList and I am writing to ask for the wisdom > I am sure is held in this group. > > My name is Leora and I'm a student of "Dialogic interventions in Large > group" , held by Tova Averbuch and Rotem Ofer. > > As a manager I have a challenge (and maybe a fear): wondering how to > "hold" the tension between the "freedom" in the OS method, and > “purposefulness” needed in most of the processes . > > How can we expect to get to "bottom lines" (get the work done) when we > depend only on the people who come, and what they decide…? > > And more, how can we avoid the "loose" rules lead to "anarchy", > especially in complex environment? > > I will appreciate your time, attention and wisdom > > Thank you > > Leora > > Israel > > > *050-6207543 (972)* > > *בברכה,* > *ליאורה * > > *050-6207543* > ___ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
Re: [OSList] Asking for your wisdom - Leora Tushinski
Hi Leora, Such a wonderful question! Thanks. I will continue to think about it as this might be the fear of many leaders. But the first thought I have: let's think that as a manager, you ask a question to invite your colleagues to a space but nobody shows up. This means that nobody cares about that question. That also means that nobody can in fact be productive in this issue. So you should maybe change your question. If people care about the question and the issue, they will participate with a "purpose", that is to answer the question. In this case the "freedom" is the best environment for them to work with high potential. If they can contribute with "their" answers, the work will get done. I hope this gives some clues. Regards, Funda leora tushinski via OSList , 3 Mar 2021 Çar, 13:13 tarihinde şunu yazdı: > Hello everyone, > > > This is my first time in the OSList and I am writing to ask for the wisdom > I am sure is held in this group. > > My name is Leora and I'm a student of "Dialogic interventions in Large > group" , held by Tova Averbuch and Rotem Ofer. > > As a manager I have a challenge (and maybe a fear): wondering how to > "hold" the tension between the "freedom" in the OS method, and > “purposefulness” needed in most of the processes . > > How can we expect to get to "bottom lines" (get the work done) when we > depend only on the people who come, and what they decide…? > > And more, how can we avoid the "loose" rules lead to "anarchy", > especially in complex environment? > > I will appreciate your time, attention and wisdom > > Thank you > > Leora > > Israel > > > *050-6207543 (972)* > > *בברכה,* > *ליאורה * > > *050-6207543* > ___ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
[OSList] Asking for your wisdom - Leora Tushinski
Hello everyone, This is my first time in the OSList and I am writing to ask for the wisdom I am sure is held in this group. My name is Leora and I'm a student of "Dialogic interventions in Large group" , held by Tova Averbuch and Rotem Ofer. As a manager I have a challenge (and maybe a fear): wondering how to "hold" the tension between the "freedom" in the OS method, and “purposefulness” needed in most of the processes . How can we expect to get to "bottom lines" (get the work done) when we depend only on the people who come, and what they decide…? And more, how can we avoid the "loose" rules lead to "anarchy", especially in complex environment? I will appreciate your time, attention and wisdom Thank you Leora Israel *050-6207543 (972)* *בברכה,* *ליאורה * *050-6207543* ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
