RE: Windows Phone 8 announced
I have whatsapp on WP7, works well Apps that run on wp7 will also run on wp8.. Correct? Sent from my Windows Phone -- From: Ken Schaefer Sent: 22-Jun-12 9:43 To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced Even if you could get hold of one, apps are missing. All those apps that let people stay in touch, or play games against each other, have been very slow to come to WP (WhatsApp, HearTell, Words with Friends, Skype, that finger painting one that seems to be all the rage now) Cheers Ken *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Craig van Nieuwkerk *Sent:* Friday, 22 June 2012 11:50 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: Windows Phone 8 announced On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Bill McCarthy bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au wrote: To change tack a little, what in your opinion would be the top issues that have led to the relatively poor uptake of Windows Phone over the last three years ? I think lack of availability is a big issue. When I walk through my local shopping centre or browse catalogues I see WP7 get a lot of advertising. You can't miss it. But if I go into a Telstra shop or typically phone shop I typically see on the racks 2 x iPhone (black white) 10 x Android 1 (maybe 2) x WP7 Doesn't matter how much you advertise if they are not on the shelves. iPhone can get away with it because they are so well known now. Craig.
RE: Windows Phone 8 announced
Also I am in Jakarta, WP is the most promoted phone here I would say... It is huge promotion, in every mall, huge banners everywhere Mostly lumia Nokia simply everywhere Sent from my Windows Phone -- From: Ken Schaefer Sent: 22-Jun-12 9:43 To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced Even if you could get hold of one, apps are missing. All those apps that let people stay in touch, or play games against each other, have been very slow to come to WP (WhatsApp, HearTell, Words with Friends, Skype, that finger painting one that seems to be all the rage now) Cheers Ken *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Craig van Nieuwkerk *Sent:* Friday, 22 June 2012 11:50 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: Windows Phone 8 announced On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Bill McCarthy bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au wrote: To change tack a little, what in your opinion would be the top issues that have led to the relatively poor uptake of Windows Phone over the last three years ? I think lack of availability is a big issue. When I walk through my local shopping centre or browse catalogues I see WP7 get a lot of advertising. You can't miss it. But if I go into a Telstra shop or typically phone shop I typically see on the racks 2 x iPhone (black white) 10 x Android 1 (maybe 2) x WP7 Doesn't matter how much you advertise if they are not on the shelves. iPhone can get away with it because they are so well known now. Craig.
RE: Windows Phone 8 announced
Yes, one of the few things that was announced was that wp7 apps will continue to work on wp8. Nick Randolph | Built to Roam Pty Ltd | Microsoft MVP - Windows Phone Development | +61 412 413 425 | @btroam The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built to Roam Pty Ltd does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built to Roam Pty Ltd. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Thiessen Sent: Sunday, 24 June 2012 8:25 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced I have whatsapp on WP7, works well Apps that run on wp7 will also run on wp8.. Correct? Sent from my Windows Phone From: Ken Schaefer Sent: 22-Jun-12 9:43 To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced Even if you could get hold of one, apps are missing. All those apps that let people stay in touch, or play games against each other, have been very slow to come to WP (WhatsApp, HearTell, Words with Friends, Skype, that finger painting one that seems to be all the rage now) Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Craig van Nieuwkerk Sent: Friday, 22 June 2012 11:50 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Windows Phone 8 announced On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Bill McCarthy bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.aumailto:bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au wrote: To change tack a little, what in your opinion would be the top issues that have led to the relatively poor uptake of Windows Phone over the last three years ? I think lack of availability is a big issue. When I walk through my local shopping centre or browse catalogues I see WP7 get a lot of advertising. You can't miss it. But if I go into a Telstra shop or typically phone shop I typically see on the racks 2 x iPhone (black white) 10 x Android 1 (maybe 2) x WP7 Doesn't matter how much you advertise if they are not on the shelves. iPhone can get away with it because they are so well known now. Craig.
RE: Windows Phone 8 announced
So, if wp7 apps run on wp8, I personally not really sure why people seem to so upset, everyone know wp8 would come out, was rumours for quite a while would be totally different, so not really a shock you can not update wp7 device to wp8 if you made wp7 apps, you can still sell them on wp8 device... It is not like you have a iPhone 3 you can upgrade it to iPhone 4 Sent from my Windows Phone -- From: Nick Randolph Sent: 24-Jun-12 18:54 To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced Yes, one of the few things that was announced was that wp7 apps will continue to work on wp8. *Nick Randolph** *| *Built to Roam Pty Ltd* | Microsoft MVP – Windows Phone Development | +61 412 413 425 | @btroam The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built to Roam Pty Ltd does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built to Roam Pty Ltd. *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Thiessen *Sent:* Sunday, 24 June 2012 8:25 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* RE: Windows Phone 8 announced I have whatsapp on WP7, works well Apps that run on wp7 will also run on wp8.. Correct? Sent from my Windows Phone -- *From: *Ken Schaefer *Sent: *22-Jun-12 9:43 *To: *ozDotNet *Subject: *RE: Windows Phone 8 announced Even if you could get hold of one, apps are missing. All those apps that let people stay in touch, or play games against each other, have been very slow to come to WP (WhatsApp, HearTell, Words with Friends, Skype, that finger painting one that seems to be all the rage now) Cheers Ken *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Craig van Nieuwkerk *Sent:* Friday, 22 June 2012 11:50 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: Windows Phone 8 announced On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Bill McCarthy bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au wrote: To change tack a little, what in your opinion would be the top issues that have led to the relatively poor uptake of Windows Phone over the last three years ? I think lack of availability is a big issue. When I walk through my local shopping centre or browse catalogues I see WP7 get a lot of advertising. You can't miss it. But if I go into a Telstra shop or typically phone shop I typically see on the racks 2 x iPhone (black white) 10 x Android 1 (maybe 2) x WP7 Doesn't matter how much you advertise if they are not on the shelves. iPhone can get away with it because they are so well known now. Craig.
RE: Windows Phone 8 announced
Actually what people are complaining about is the fact that if you buy a wp7 device today you won't be able to run wp8 apps tomorrow. Apple have a general rule of supporting at least vN-1, if you have a current gen device and they upgrade the OS, you'll get the update. There are certain exclusions to this but they are mainly around consumer features. Nick Randolph | Built to Roam Pty Ltd | Microsoft MVP - Windows Phone Development | +61 412 413 425 | @btroam The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built to Roam Pty Ltd does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built to Roam Pty Ltd. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Thiessen Sent: Sunday, 24 June 2012 10:31 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced So, if wp7 apps run on wp8, I personally not really sure why people seem to so upset, everyone know wp8 would come out, was rumours for quite a while would be totally different, so not really a shock you can not update wp7 device to wp8 if you made wp7 apps, you can still sell them on wp8 device... It is not like you have a iPhone 3 you can upgrade it to iPhone 4 Sent from my Windows Phone From: Nick Randolph Sent: 24-Jun-12 18:54 To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced Yes, one of the few things that was announced was that wp7 apps will continue to work on wp8. Nick Randolph | Built to Roam Pty Ltd | Microsoft MVP - Windows Phone Development | +61 412 413 425 | @btroam The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built to Roam Pty Ltd does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built to Roam Pty Ltd. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Thiessen Sent: Sunday, 24 June 2012 8:25 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced I have whatsapp on WP7, works well Apps that run on wp7 will also run on wp8.. Correct? Sent from my Windows Phone From: Ken Schaefer Sent: 22-Jun-12 9:43 To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced Even if you could get hold of one, apps are missing. All those apps that let people stay in touch, or play games against each other, have been very slow to come to WP (WhatsApp, HearTell, Words with Friends, Skype, that finger painting one that seems to be all the rage now) Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Craig van Nieuwkerk Sent: Friday, 22 June 2012 11:50 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Windows Phone 8 announced On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Bill McCarthy bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.aumailto:bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au wrote: To change tack a little, what in your opinion would be the top issues that have led to the relatively poor uptake of Windows Phone over the last three years ? I think lack of availability is a big issue. When I walk through my local shopping centre or browse catalogues I see WP7 get a lot of advertising. You can't miss it. But if I go into a Telstra shop or typically phone shop I typically see on the racks 2 x iPhone (black white) 10 x Android 1 (maybe 2) x WP7 Doesn't matter how much you advertise if they are not on the shelves. iPhone can get away with it because they are so well known now. Craig.
Re: Windows Phone 8 announced
It's going to be difficult for retailers to move wp7 phones, then. Just to show that I don't *just* criticise Microsoft, I'm unimpressed with Apple's latest laptop. (specifically it's inability to be upgraded for anything) On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 10:39 PM, Nick Randolph n...@builttoroam.comwrote: Actually what people are complaining about is the fact that if you buy a wp7 device today you won’t be able to run wp8 apps tomorrow. ** ** Apple have a general rule of supporting at least vN-1, if you have a current gen device and they upgrade the OS, you’ll get the update. There are certain exclusions to this but they are mainly around consumer features. ** ** *Nick Randolph** *| *Built to Roam Pty Ltd* | Microsoft MVP – Windows Phone Development | +61 412 413 425 | @btroam The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built to Roam Pty Ltd does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built to Roam Pty Ltd. ** ** *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Thiessen *Sent:* Sunday, 24 June 2012 10:31 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* RE: Windows Phone 8 announced ** ** So, if wp7 apps run on wp8, I personally not really sure why people seem to so upset, everyone know wp8 would come out, was rumours for quite a while would be totally different, so not really a shock you can not update wp7 device to wp8 if you made wp7 apps, you can still sell them on wp8 device... It is not like you have a iPhone 3 you can upgrade it to iPhone 4 Sent from my Windows Phone -- *From: *Nick Randolph *Sent: *24-Jun-12 18:54 *To: *ozDotNet *Subject: *RE: Windows Phone 8 announced Yes, one of the few things that was announced was that wp7 apps will continue to work on wp8. *Nick Randolph** *| *Built to Roam Pty Ltd* | Microsoft MVP – Windows Phone Development | +61 412 413 425 | @btroam The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built to Roam Pty Ltd does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built to Roam Pty Ltd. *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Thiessen *Sent:* Sunday, 24 June 2012 8:25 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* RE: Windows Phone 8 announced I have whatsapp on WP7, works well Apps that run on wp7 will also run on wp8.. Correct? Sent from my Windows Phone -- *From: *Ken Schaefer *Sent: *22-Jun-12 9:43 *To: *ozDotNet *Subject: *RE: Windows Phone 8 announced Even if you could get hold of one, apps are missing. All those apps that let people stay in touch, or play games against each other, have been very slow to come to WP (WhatsApp, HearTell, Words with Friends, Skype, that finger painting one that seems to be all the rage now) Cheers Ken *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Craig van Nieuwkerk *Sent:* Friday, 22 June 2012 11:50 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: Windows Phone 8 announced On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Bill McCarthy bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au wrote: To change tack a little, what in your opinion would be the top issues that have led to the relatively poor uptake of Windows Phone over the last three years ? I think lack of availability is a big issue. When I walk through my local shopping centre or browse catalogues I see WP7 get a lot of advertising. You can't miss it. But if I go into a Telstra shop or typically phone shop I typically see on the racks 2 x iPhone (black white) 10 x Android 1 (maybe 2) x WP7 Doesn't matter how much you advertise if they are not on the shelves. iPhone can get away with it because they are so well known now. Craig. -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills
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One of the most irritating things about SQL reports is that it falls asleep every now and again. The user experience is not pleasant and resultant calls to technical support or worse still loss of end-user customers. I have tried altering rsreportserver.config setting the ProcessTimeout to a figure of 3 but that did not seem to do anything. Is there limit on this number or even better and infinite value ? Once up and running SQL reports works OK, not sparkling - I swear the old FoxPro reports even dare I say it Access ran rings round it, but this falling asleep on the job is giving me the real gyp. -- - Stuart Kinnear Mobile: 040 704 5686. Office: 03 9589 6502 SK Pro-Active! Pty Ltd acn. 81 072 778 262 PO Box 6117 Cromer, Vic 3193. Australia Business software developers. SQL Server, Visual Basic, C# , Asp.Net, Microsoft Office. -
Re: SQL reports falling asleep on the job
We have the same issue, it is because the .Net worker process is being recycled, then the first call to the report needs to spin up the process and the Reporting Services libraries into memory. To make the user experience better, I created a small executable that calls a report via HTTP and set the exe to be run twice a day using Task Scheduler. That way the users never have to wait for the spin up time. (Actually the same exe also calls a number of other web applications too to wake them up each morning before the users all get in to work). Of cource, there may be a better way. On 25 June 2012 09:22, Stuart Kinnear stu...@skproactive.com wrote: One of the most irritating things about SQL reports is that it falls asleep every now and again. The user experience is not pleasant and resultant calls to technical support or worse still loss of end-user customers. I have tried altering rsreportserver.config setting the ProcessTimeout to a figure of 3 but that did not seem to do anything. Is there limit on this number or even better and infinite value ? Once up and running SQL reports works OK, not sparkling - I swear the old FoxPro reports even dare I say it Access ran rings round it, but this falling asleep on the job is giving me the real gyp. -- - Stuart Kinnear Mobile: 040 704 5686. Office: 03 9589 6502 SK Pro-Active! Pty Ltd acn. 81 072 778 262 PO Box 6117 Cromer, Vic 3193. Australia Business software developers. SQL Server, Visual Basic, C# , Asp.Net, Microsoft Office. -
RE: Windows Phone 8 announced
People are upset because they bought an expensive WP7 handset two weeks ago, and then last week Microsoft says that they'll be obsolete in 3 months' time. As for iPhones, at least Apple has some support for older devices. The original iPad is upgradeable to iOS5. The iPhone 4 is still upgradeable to whatever the iPhone 4S is running. Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Thiessen Sent: Sunday, 24 June 2012 10:31 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced So, if wp7 apps run on wp8, I personally not really sure why people seem to so upset, everyone know wp8 would come out, was rumours for quite a while would be totally different, so not really a shock you can not update wp7 device to wp8 if you made wp7 apps, you can still sell them on wp8 device... It is not like you have a iPhone 3 you can upgrade it to iPhone 4 Sent from my Windows Phone _ From: Nick Randolph Sent: 24-Jun-12 18:54 To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced Yes, one of the few things that was announced was that wp7 apps will continue to work on wp8. Nick Randolph | Built to Roam Pty Ltd | Microsoft MVP - Windows Phone Development | +61 412 413 425 | @btroam The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built to Roam Pty Ltd does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built to Roam Pty Ltd. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Thiessen Sent: Sunday, 24 June 2012 8:25 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced I have whatsapp on WP7, works well Apps that run on wp7 will also run on wp8.. Correct? Sent from my Windows Phone _ From: Ken Schaefer Sent: 22-Jun-12 9:43 To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced Even if you could get hold of one, apps are missing. All those apps that let people stay in touch, or play games against each other, have been very slow to come to WP (WhatsApp, HearTell, Words with Friends, Skype, that finger painting one that seems to be all the rage now) Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Craig van Nieuwkerk Sent: Friday, 22 June 2012 11:50 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Windows Phone 8 announced On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Bill McCarthy bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au wrote: To change tack a little, what in your opinion would be the top issues that have led to the relatively poor uptake of Windows Phone over the last three years ? I think lack of availability is a big issue. When I walk through my local shopping centre or browse catalogues I see WP7 get a lot of advertising. You can't miss it. But if I go into a Telstra shop or typically phone shop I typically see on the racks 2 x iPhone (black white) 10 x Android 1 (maybe 2) x WP7 Doesn't matter how much you advertise if they are not on the shelves. iPhone can get away with it because they are so well known now. Craig.
RE: Windows Phone 8 announced
Ken Just be happy you're getting new start screen tiles - sorry but wtf, who cares. Nick Randolph | Built to Roam Pty Ltd | Microsoft MVP - Windows Phone Development | +61 412 413 425 | @btroam The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built to Roam Pty Ltd does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built to Roam Pty Ltd. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: Monday, 25 June 2012 11:42 AM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced People are upset because they bought an expensive WP7 handset two weeks ago, and then last week Microsoft says that they'll be obsolete in 3 months' time. As for iPhones, at least Apple has some support for older devices. The original iPad is upgradeable to iOS5. The iPhone 4 is still upgradeable to whatever the iPhone 4S is running. Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]mailto:[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Thiessen Sent: Sunday, 24 June 2012 10:31 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced So, if wp7 apps run on wp8, I personally not really sure why people seem to so upset, everyone know wp8 would come out, was rumours for quite a while would be totally different, so not really a shock you can not update wp7 device to wp8 if you made wp7 apps, you can still sell them on wp8 device... It is not like you have a iPhone 3 you can upgrade it to iPhone 4 Sent from my Windows Phone From: Nick Randolph Sent: 24-Jun-12 18:54 To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced Yes, one of the few things that was announced was that wp7 apps will continue to work on wp8. Nick Randolph | Built to Roam Pty Ltd | Microsoft MVP - Windows Phone Development | +61 412 413 425 | @btroam The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built to Roam Pty Ltd does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built to Roam Pty Ltd. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Thiessen Sent: Sunday, 24 June 2012 8:25 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced I have whatsapp on WP7, works well Apps that run on wp7 will also run on wp8.. Correct? Sent from my Windows Phone From: Ken Schaefer Sent: 22-Jun-12 9:43 To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced Even if you could get hold of one, apps are missing. All those apps that let people stay in touch, or play games against each other, have been very slow to come to WP (WhatsApp, HearTell, Words with Friends, Skype, that finger painting one that seems to be all the rage now) Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Craig van Nieuwkerk Sent: Friday, 22 June 2012 11:50 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Windows Phone 8 announced On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Bill McCarthy bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.aumailto:bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au wrote: To change tack a little, what in your opinion would be the top issues that have led to the relatively poor uptake of Windows Phone over the last three years ? I think lack of availability is a big issue. When I walk through my local shopping centre or browse catalogues I see WP7 get a lot of advertising. You can't miss it. But if I go into a Telstra shop or typically phone shop I typically see on the racks 2 x iPhone (black white) 10 x Android 1 (maybe 2) x WP7 Doesn't matter how much you advertise if they are not on the shelves. iPhone can get away with it because they are so well known now. Craig.
RE: Windows Phone 8 announced
Hey Nick, I guess this must be a bit like first timers compared to old timers. For the new inmates the shower experience is going to leave them screaming for a while but for the inmates who've been in for a while it's just another mild pain in the a*** ;) |-Original Message- |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph |Sent: Monday, 25 June 2012 11:48 AM |To: ozDotNet |Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced | |Ken | | | |Just be happy you're getting new start screen tiles - sorry but wtf, who cares. | | | |Nick Randolph | Built to Roam Pty Ltd | Microsoft MVP - Windows Phone |Development | +61 412 413 425 | @btroam The information contained in this |email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose |or use the information in this email in any way. Built to Roam Pty Ltd does not |guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions |expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built |to Roam Pty Ltd. | | | |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer |Sent: Monday, 25 June 2012 11:42 AM |To: 'ozDotNet' |Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced | | | |People are upset because they bought an expensive WP7 handset two weeks ago, |and then last week Microsoft says that they'll be obsolete in 3 months' time. | | | |As for iPhones, at least Apple has some support for older devices. The original |iPad is upgradeable to iOS5. The iPhone 4 is still upgradeable to whatever the |iPhone 4S is running. | | | |Cheers | |Ken | | | |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Thiessen |Sent: Sunday, 24 June 2012 10:31 PM |To: ozDotNet |Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced | | | |So, if wp7 apps run on wp8, I personally not really sure why people seem to so |upset, everyone know wp8 would come out, was rumours for quite a while would |be totally different, so not really a shock you can not update wp7 device to wp8 | |if you made wp7 apps, you can still sell them on wp8 device... | |It is not like you have a iPhone 3 you can upgrade it to iPhone 4 | |Sent from my Windows Phone | | | |From: Nick Randolph |Sent: 24-Jun-12 18:54 |To: ozDotNet |Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced | |Yes, one of the few things that was announced was that wp7 apps will continue |to work on wp8. | | | |Nick Randolph | Built to Roam Pty Ltd | Microsoft MVP - Windows Phone |Development | +61 412 413 425 | @btroam The information contained in this |email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose |or use the information in this email in any way. Built to Roam Pty Ltd does not |guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions |expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built |to Roam Pty Ltd. | | | |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Thiessen |Sent: Sunday, 24 June 2012 8:25 PM |To: ozDotNet |Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced | | | |I have whatsapp on WP7, works well | |Apps that run on wp7 will also run on wp8.. Correct? | |Sent from my Windows Phone | | | |From: Ken Schaefer |Sent: 22-Jun-12 9:43 |To: ozDotNet |Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced | |Even if you could get hold of one, apps are missing. | | | |All those apps that let people stay in touch, or play games against each other, |have been very slow to come to WP (WhatsApp, HearTell, Words with Friends, |Skype, that finger painting one that seems to be all the rage now) | | | |Cheers |Ken | | | |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Craig van Nieuwkerk |Sent: Friday, 22 June 2012 11:50 AM |To: ozDotNet |Subject: Re: Windows Phone 8 announced | | | | | |On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Bill McCarthy bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au |wrote: | |To change tack a little, what in your opinion would be the top issues that have led |to the relatively poor uptake of Windows Phone over the last three years ? | | | | | |I think lack of availability is a big issue. When I walk through my local shopping |centre or browse catalogues I see WP7 get a lot of advertising. You can't miss it. |But if I go into a Telstra shop or typically phone shop I typically see on the racks | | | |2 x iPhone (black white) | |10 x Android | |1 (maybe 2) x WP7 | | | |Doesn't matter how much you advertise if they are not on the shelves. iPhone can |get away with it because they are so well known now. | | | |Craig.
Re: Windows Phone 8 announced
In my days PDA's didn't have phones in them. PS: get off of my lawn! :) On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Bill McCarthy bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au wrote: Hey Nick, I guess this must be a bit like first timers compared to old timers. For the new inmates the shower experience is going to leave them screaming for a while but for the inmates who've been in for a while it's just another mild pain in the a*** ;) |-Original Message- |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph |Sent: Monday, 25 June 2012 11:48 AM |To: ozDotNet |Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced | |Ken | | | |Just be happy you're getting new start screen tiles - sorry but wtf, who cares. | | | |Nick Randolph | Built to Roam Pty Ltd | Microsoft MVP - Windows Phone |Development | +61 412 413 425 | @btroam The information contained in this |email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose |or use the information in this email in any way. Built to Roam Pty Ltd does not |guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions |expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built |to Roam Pty Ltd. | | | |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer |Sent: Monday, 25 June 2012 11:42 AM |To: 'ozDotNet' |Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced | | | |People are upset because they bought an expensive WP7 handset two weeks ago, |and then last week Microsoft says that they'll be obsolete in 3 months' time. | | | |As for iPhones, at least Apple has some support for older devices. The original |iPad is upgradeable to iOS5. The iPhone 4 is still upgradeable to whatever the |iPhone 4S is running. | | | |Cheers | |Ken | | | |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Thiessen |Sent: Sunday, 24 June 2012 10:31 PM |To: ozDotNet |Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced | | | |So, if wp7 apps run on wp8, I personally not really sure why people seem to so |upset, everyone know wp8 would come out, was rumours for quite a while would |be totally different, so not really a shock you can not update wp7 device to wp8 | |if you made wp7 apps, you can still sell them on wp8 device... | |It is not like you have a iPhone 3 you can upgrade it to iPhone 4 | |Sent from my Windows Phone | | | |From: Nick Randolph |Sent: 24-Jun-12 18:54 |To: ozDotNet |Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced | |Yes, one of the few things that was announced was that wp7 apps will continue |to work on wp8. | | | |Nick Randolph | Built to Roam Pty Ltd | Microsoft MVP - Windows Phone |Development | +61 412 413 425 | @btroam The information contained in this |email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose |or use the information in this email in any way. Built to Roam Pty Ltd does not |guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions |expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built |to Roam Pty Ltd. | | | |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Thiessen |Sent: Sunday, 24 June 2012 8:25 PM |To: ozDotNet |Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced | | | |I have whatsapp on WP7, works well | |Apps that run on wp7 will also run on wp8.. Correct? | |Sent from my Windows Phone | | | |From: Ken Schaefer |Sent: 22-Jun-12 9:43 |To: ozDotNet |Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced | |Even if you could get hold of one, apps are missing. | | | |All those apps that let people stay in touch, or play games against each other, |have been very slow to come to WP (WhatsApp, HearTell, Words with Friends, |Skype, that finger painting one that seems to be all the rage now) | | | |Cheers |Ken | | | |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Craig van Nieuwkerk |Sent: Friday, 22 June 2012 11:50 AM |To: ozDotNet |Subject: Re: Windows Phone 8 announced | | | | | |On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Bill McCarthy bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au |wrote: | |To change tack a little, what in your opinion would be the top issues that have led |to the relatively poor uptake of Windows Phone over the last three years ? | | | | | |I think lack of availability is a big issue. When I walk through my local shopping |centre or browse catalogues I see WP7 get a lot of advertising. You can't miss it. |But if I go into a Telstra shop or typically phone shop I typically see on the racks | | | |2 x iPhone (black white) | |10 x Android | |1 (maybe 2) x WP7 | | | |Doesn't matter how much you advertise if they are not on
RE: Windows Phone 8 announced
Hi David, | was rumours for quite a while would |be totally different, so not really a shock you can not update wp7 device to wp8 Really ? I can't say I saw any such rumours and I read a reasonable amount of tech news every day. In fact as I posted in my blog, I read the Windows 8 team blog where they showed they used existing phones to do their initial Windows RT testing on. Where were these early rumours ? And what of customers today? Shouldn't they be warned: I bet you they aren't except for the people who are complaining. Sad that the customer awareness has to come from rumours of rumours and those that are complainers. |-Original Message- |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Thiessen |Sent: Sunday, 24 June 2012 10:31 PM |To: ozDotNet |Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced | |So, if wp7 apps run on wp8, I personally not really sure why people seem to so |upset, everyone know wp8 would come out, was rumours for quite a while would |be totally different, so not really a shock you can not update wp7 device to wp8 | |if you made wp7 apps, you can still sell them on wp8 device... | |It is not like you have a iPhone 3 you can upgrade it to iPhone 4 | |Sent from my Windows Phone | | | |From: Nick Randolph |Sent: 24-Jun-12 18:54 |To: ozDotNet |Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced | | | |Yes, one of the few things that was announced was that wp7 apps will continue |to work on wp8. | | | |Nick Randolph | Built to Roam Pty Ltd | Microsoft MVP Windows Phone |Development | +61 412 413 425 | @btroam The information contained in this |email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose |or use the information in this email in any way. Built to Roam Pty Ltd does not |guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions |expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built |to Roam Pty Ltd. | | | |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Thiessen |Sent: Sunday, 24 June 2012 8:25 PM |To: ozDotNet |Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced | | | |I have whatsapp on WP7, works well | |Apps that run on wp7 will also run on wp8.. Correct? | |Sent from my Windows Phone | | | |From: Ken Schaefer |Sent: 22-Jun-12 9:43 |To: ozDotNet |Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced | |Even if you could get hold of one, apps are missing. | | | |All those apps that let people stay in touch, or play games against each other, |have been very slow to come to WP (WhatsApp, HearTell, Words with Friends, |Skype, that finger painting one that seems to be all the rage now) | | | |Cheers |Ken | | | |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Craig van Nieuwkerk |Sent: Friday, 22 June 2012 11:50 AM |To: ozDotNet |Subject: Re: Windows Phone 8 announced | | | | | |On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Bill McCarthy bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au |wrote: | |To change tack a little, what in your opinion would be the top issues that have led |to the relatively poor uptake of Windows Phone over the last three years ? | | | | | |I think lack of availability is a big issue. When I walk through my local shopping |centre or browse catalogues I see WP7 get a lot of advertising. You can't miss it. |But if I go into a Telstra shop or typically phone shop I typically see on the racks | | | |2 x iPhone (black white) | |10 x Android | |1 (maybe 2) x WP7 | | | |Doesn't matter how much you advertise if they are not on the shelves. iPhone can |get away with it because they are so well known now. | | | |Craig.
RE: Windows Phone 8 announced
Ha... in my days we have multi functional devices called pencils that allowed you to take notes, write mail, and dial on the latest rotary dial phones ! These days the lawns aren't safe to sit on due to sneaky silent robot mowers and popup sprinklers ;) |-Original Message- |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of mike smith |Sent: Monday, 25 June 2012 12:09 PM |To: ozDotNet |Subject: Re: Windows Phone 8 announced | |In my days PDA's didn't have phones in them. | |PS: get off of my lawn! :) | | |On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Bill McCarthy |bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au wrote: | | | Hey Nick, | | I guess this must be a bit like first timers compared to old timers. For the | new inmates the shower experience is going to leave them screaming for |a | while but for the inmates who've been in for a while it's just another mild | pain in the a*** ;) | | | | |-Original Message- | |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- | |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph | |Sent: Monday, 25 June 2012 11:48 AM | |To: ozDotNet | |Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced | | | | |Ken | | | | | | | |Just be happy you're getting new start screen tiles - sorry but wtf, who | | cares. | | | | | | | |Nick Randolph | Built to Roam Pty Ltd | Microsoft MVP - Windows |Phone | |Development | +61 412 413 425 tel:%2B61%20412%20413%20425 | |@btroam The information contained in this | |email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not | disclose | |or use the information in this email in any way. Built to Roam Pty Ltd |does | not | |guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or | opinions | |expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or |opinions of | Built | |to Roam Pty Ltd. | | | | | | | |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- | |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer | |Sent: Monday, 25 June 2012 11:42 AM | |To: 'ozDotNet' | |Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced | | | | | | | |People are upset because they bought an expensive WP7 handset two |weeks | ago, | |and then last week Microsoft says that they'll be obsolete in 3 months' | time. | | | | | | | |As for iPhones, at least Apple has some support for older devices. The | original | |iPad is upgradeable to iOS5. The iPhone 4 is still upgradeable to |whatever | the | |iPhone 4S is running. | | | | | | | |Cheers | | | |Ken | | | | | | | |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- | |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Thiessen | |Sent: Sunday, 24 June 2012 10:31 PM | |To: ozDotNet | |Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced | | | | | | | |So, if wp7 apps run on wp8, I personally not really sure why people seem |to | so | |upset, everyone know wp8 would come out, was rumours for quite a |while | would | |be totally different, so not really a shock you can not update wp7 device | to wp8 | | | |if you made wp7 apps, you can still sell them on wp8 device... | | | |It is not like you have a iPhone 3 you can upgrade it to iPhone 4 | | | |Sent from my Windows Phone | | | | | | | |From: Nick Randolph | |Sent: 24-Jun-12 18:54 | |To: ozDotNet | |Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced | | | |Yes, one of the few things that was announced was that wp7 apps will | continue | |to work on wp8. | | | | | | | |Nick Randolph | Built to Roam Pty Ltd | Microsoft MVP - Windows |Phone | |Development | +61 412 413 425 tel:%2B61%20412%20413%20425 | |@btroam The information contained in this | |email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not | disclose | |or use the information in this email in any way. Built to Roam Pty Ltd |does | not | |guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or | opinions | |expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or |opinions of | Built | |to Roam Pty Ltd. | | | | | | | |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- | | |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Thiessen | |Sent: Sunday, 24 June 2012 8:25 PM | |To: ozDotNet | |Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced | | | | | | | |I have whatsapp on WP7, works well | | | |Apps that run on wp7
VS2012 Express + Unit Tests
Has anyone installed the Windows 8 version of VS11 RC (there was one with the name en_visual_studio_express_2012_rc_for_windows_8_x86_dvd_865506.iso) and gotten unit testing to work? I've installed it on my laptop (windows 8 latest preview) and found that there does not seem to be unit test templates installed. A search seems to indicate that the Express version has unit testing. I'm wondering if the Windows 8 version is Metro only (no desktop/no unit tests) as the iso seems much smaller than the other Iso. cheers, Stephen
Re: OT: Friday : Tax on IE7
Let's try IE4 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Jano Petras jano.pet...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-18440979 Making online purchases with IE 7 resuts in surcharge :) -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills
Re: Windows Phone 8 announced
I just listen to podcasts like windows weekly, they been saying it for months, blogs etc, but, also were a lot people claimig that it would be upgradable but I personally did not expect you would be able to upgrade, becuase I was thinking the the phone was also going to try and use the same core as win8, so the phone would be different and current phones most likely would not have the grunt to really do it, but i did expect if the phone was more like windows that they would be able to still run the old apps but if you google you will see people saying will not be upgradable from mid to end of last year, while others saying that MS could not cut off wp7 people becuase would kill the phone off
RE: Windows Phone 8 announced
Like I said, I do read technology news/blogs/ mags a bit and never saw any mention of it not being upgradable. I did also google and set the time frame back to pre April and also didn't see any major trend or sites saying it wouldn't be upgradable. Take your time and pick your best top 5 sources from pre April that stated that. The notion of not enough grunt I heard in a podcast yesterday and is utter bullsh*t as far as I am concerned. The current 1.4 Ghz single core processors aren't significantly behind the dual cores at 1.5 (1.7 I think is the fastest snapdragon in production). If a 1.4 **can't** run it then a 1.5 dual core ain't going to be much of a user experience. But again, that argument of it not having enough grunt is one of the rumours and not something I've heard from any Microsoft or Nokia source. In fact, I'd say the entire discussions over the reasons why have been devoid of technical merit. If there was a decent technical reason I doubt you'd see as many people upset. |-Original Message- |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of .net noobie |Sent: Monday, 25 June 2012 2:46 PM |To: ozDotNet |Subject: Re: Windows Phone 8 announced | |I just listen to podcasts like windows weekly, they been saying it for months, |blogs etc, but, also were a lot people claimig that it would be upgradable | |but I personally did not expect you would be able to upgrade, becuase I was |thinking the the phone was also going to try and use the same core as win8, so |the phone would be different and current phones most likely would not have the |grunt to really do it, but i did expect if the phone was more like windows that |they would be able to still run the old apps | |but if you google you will see people saying will not be upgradable from mid to |end of last year, while others saying that MS could not cut off wp7 people |becuase would kill the phone off
