RE: [OT] Surface Pro 2
I thought it sounded pretty good until I heard from Chris Auld. He seems to have had a nightmare run with them. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: http://www.sqldownunder.com/ www.sqldownunder.com From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Corneliu I. Tusnea Sent: Friday, 6 September 2013 9:18 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Surface Pro 2 How is the Helix? On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: I replace my Surface Pro with a Lenovo Helix. However the person that has the Surface now loves it. They do a lot of PDF and Word annotations, and find the ability to just scribble notes, circle things etc. really handy. Of course, you don't need a Surface to do that, but if that's the main thing you use a device for, then I can see how it'd be useful. Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Thursday, 5 September 2013 7:43 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Surface Pro 2 When Microsoft sent me the Surface Pro I was pretty excited to use it, but after a week or so I pretty much stopped using it given the whole usage of it just didn't feel comfortable (heavy, got warm often, stylus was constantly being lost etc etc). I then gave it to my a co-worker to use instead thinking maybe I'm just to jaded about it all. He then pretty much arrived at the same conclusion so he then gave it to our Manager ...and yes, he ditched as well and then gave it to one of his peers and so far that guy's about to ditch it as well. ..so it's slowly making the rounds at work and so far it hasn't found a home as yet (I keep waiting for that person to say this is awesome so i can then pounce on them, open a notepad pen and get them to tell me why etc - professional curiosity). I was hoping the next generation would try something different to stimulate a re-up or revisit but if they are just making iPad like adjustments to the specs then its kind of a weird place to occupy for them given its success today? --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Ian Thomas il.tho...@iinet.net.au mailto:il.tho...@iinet.net.au wrote: Yes, it does seem a Surface-killer - more options (storage, RAM), enough ports. We await pricing. I was impressed by recently-announced Lenovo T440 and T240 series ultrabooks. 2 batteries, up to 17 hours - a sensible counter to tablets. _ Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia From: mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 3:23 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: [OT] Surface Pro 2 There's also this just-announced competitor from Sony: http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/04/sony-vaio-tap-11-hands-on/ Cheers Ken From: mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [ mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ian Thomas Sent: Thursday, 5 September 2013 5:14 PM To: mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: [OT] Surface Pro 2 Surface Pro 2 ready to go with an adjustable kickstand and improved battery life Basically the original Surface Pro is an ultrabook with optional keyboard. Now it's getting more RAM, and the (Intel) Haswell chips, so performance and battery life should be greatly improved. http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/4/4694838/surface-pro-2-adjustable-kickstand -haswell-better-battery-life The Verge _ Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia
RE: [OT] Surface Pro 2
Surface Pro on a phone - plug in a keyboard mouse, hit a projector button, fully fledged windows dev on a phone, now that would truly be cool. They own a phone company now, but will they ever have a vision? Sent from my Windows Phone -- From: Ken Schaefer Sent: 6/09/2013 10:08 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: [OT] Surface Pro 2 If you want a laptop that can be used as a tablet, then it’s the way to go IMHO. Cons: it’s heavier than my Sony Z2 that it replaced (with the keyboard part), and the supplied stylus is rubbish (get a separate pen – any Wacom Penabled compatible pen will work). Otherwise it’s good – 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD, 1080p screen, 3G (optional), flexible usage options/configurations. Has a mini-DP (one on the base, and one on the tablet part) which is capable of driving large monitors (runs my 2560x1440 monitor without issues). The only thing that I’d really want is the ability to buy an additional “keyboard” section as a spare part. Then I could leave one at home and one at work effectively as a docking station, and just carry the tablet bit back and forwards. Cheers Ken *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Corneliu I. Tusnea *Sent:* Friday, 6 September 2013 9:18 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: [OT] Surface Pro 2 How is the Helix? On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: I replace my Surface Pro with a Lenovo Helix. However the person that has the Surface now loves it. They do a lot of PDF and Word annotations, and find the ability to just scribble notes, circle things etc. really handy. Of course, you don’t need a Surface to do that, but if that’s the main thing you use a device for, then I can see how it’d be useful. Cheers Ken *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Scott Barnes *Sent:* Thursday, 5 September 2013 7:43 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: [OT] Surface Pro 2 When Microsoft sent me the Surface Pro I was pretty excited to use it, but after a week or so I pretty much stopped using it given the whole usage of it just didn't feel comfortable (heavy, got warm often, stylus was constantly being lost etc etc). I then gave it to my a co-worker to use instead thinking maybe I'm just to jaded about it all. He then pretty much arrived at the same conclusion so he then gave it to our Manager ...and yes, he ditched as well and then gave it to one of his peers and so far that guy's about to ditch it as well. ..so it's slowly making the rounds at work and so far it hasn't found a home as yet (I keep waiting for that person to say this is awesome so i can then pounce on them, open a notepad pen and get them to tell me why etc - professional curiosity). I was hoping the next generation would try something different to stimulate a re-up or revisit but if they are just making iPad like adjustments to the specs then its kind of a weird place to occupy for them given its success today? --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Ian Thomas il.tho...@iinet.net.au wrote: Yes, it does seem a Surface-killer – more options (storage, RAM), enough ports. We await pricing. I was impressed by recently-announced Lenovo T440 and T240 series ultrabooks. 2 batteries, up to 17 hours – a sensible counter to tablets. -- Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Schaefer *Sent:* Thursday, September 05, 2013 3:23 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* RE: [OT] Surface Pro 2 There’s also this just-announced competitor from Sony: http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/04/sony-vaio-tap-11-hands-on/ Cheers Ken *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.comozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Ian Thomas *Sent:* Thursday, 5 September 2013 5:14 PM *To:* ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com *Subject:* [OT] Surface Pro 2 *Surface Pro 2 ready to go with an adjustable kickstand and improved battery life* Basically the original Surface Pro is an ultrabook with optional keyboard. Now it's getting more RAM, and the (Intel) Haswell chips, so performance and battery life should be greatly improved. The Vergehttp://www.theverge.com/2013/9/4/4694838/surface-pro-2-adjustable-kickstand-haswell-better-battery-life -- Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia
RE: [OT] Surface Pro 2
Why not Visual Studio on an MS Smartwatch, projected up onto the wall? You could run your unit tests overnight and it can buzz to wake you if a test fails. From: Tony Wright tonyw...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 3:13 PM To: Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com, ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: RE: [OT] Surface Pro 2 Surface Pro on a phone - plug in a keyboard mouse, hit a projector button, fully fledged windows dev on a phone, now that would truly be cool. They own a phone company now, but will they ever have a vision? Sent from my Windows Phone From: Ken Schaefer Sent: 6/09/2013 10:08 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: [OT] Surface Pro 2 If you want a laptop that can be used as a tablet, then it's the way to go IMHO. Cons: it's heavier than my Sony Z2 that it replaced (with the keyboard part), and the supplied stylus is rubbish (get a separate pen - any Wacom Penabled compatible pen will work). Otherwise it's good - 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD, 1080p screen, 3G (optional), flexible usage options/configurations. Has a mini-DP (one on the base, and one on the tablet part) which is capable of driving large monitors (runs my 2560x1440 monitor without issues). The only thing that I'd really want is the ability to buy an additional keyboard section as a spare part. Then I could leave one at home and one at work effectively as a docking station, and just carry the tablet bit back and forwards. Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Corneliu I. Tusnea Sent: Friday, 6 September 2013 9:18 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Surface Pro 2 How is the Helix? On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: I replace my Surface Pro with a Lenovo Helix. However the person that has the Surface now loves it. They do a lot of PDF and Word annotations, and find the ability to just scribble notes, circle things etc. really handy. Of course, you don't need a Surface to do that, but if that's the main thing you use a device for, then I can see how it'd be useful. Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Thursday, 5 September 2013 7:43 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Surface Pro 2 When Microsoft sent me the Surface Pro I was pretty excited to use it, but after a week or so I pretty much stopped using it given the whole usage of it just didn't feel comfortable (heavy, got warm often, stylus was constantly being lost etc etc). I then gave it to my a co-worker to use instead thinking maybe I'm just to jaded about it all. He then pretty much arrived at the same conclusion so he then gave it to our Manager ...and yes, he ditched as well and then gave it to one of his peers and so far that guy's about to ditch it as well. ..so it's slowly making the rounds at work and so far it hasn't found a home as yet (I keep waiting for that person to say this is awesome so i can then pounce on them, open a notepad pen and get them to tell me why etc - professional curiosity). I was hoping the next generation would try something different to stimulate a re-up or revisit but if they are just making iPad like adjustments to the specs then its kind of a weird place to occupy for them given its success today? --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Ian Thomas il.tho...@iinet.net.au wrote: Yes, it does seem a Surface-killer - more options (storage, RAM), enough ports. We await pricing. I was impressed by recently-announced Lenovo T440 and T240 series ultrabooks. 2 batteries, up to 17 hours - a sensible counter to tablets. Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 3:23 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: [OT] Surface Pro 2 There's also this just-announced competitor from Sony: http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/04/sony-vaio-tap-11-hands-on/ Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ian Thomas Sent: Thursday, 5 September 2013 5:14 PM To: ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: [OT] Surface Pro 2 Surface Pro 2 ready to go with an adjustable kickstand and improved battery life Basically the original Surface Pro is an ultrabook with optional keyboard. Now it's getting more RAM, and the (Intel) Haswell chips, so performance and battery life should be greatly improved. The Verge Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia
