Re: [OT] Odd Question/Situation
On 14 May 2010 11:57, Michael Minutillo wrote: > Yes. Otherwise your eyes roll up and they can't lase you bro. <> > > On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 8:10 AM, mike smith wrote: >> >> On 12 May 2010 17:21, Michael Minutillo >> wrote: >> > I'm fine with all of that except the bit where you're awake watching >> > them do >> > it. I don't care how much Valium or how many anesthetic eye drops I'm >> > given >> > I'm not doing that. >> >> DO you *have* to be awake? >> >> -- >> Meski >> >> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, >> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills > > > > -- > Michael M. Minutillo > Indiscriminate Information Sponge > Blog: http://wolfbyte-net.blogspot.com > -- Meski "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
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Yes. Otherwise your eyes roll up and they can't lase you bro. On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 8:10 AM, mike smith wrote: > On 12 May 2010 17:21, Michael Minutillo > wrote: > > I'm fine with all of that except the bit where you're awake watching them > do > > it. I don't care how much Valium or how many anesthetic eye drops I'm > given > > I'm not doing that. > > DO you *have* to be awake? > > -- > Meski > > "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, > you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills > -- Michael M. Minutillo Indiscriminate Information Sponge Blog: http://wolfbyte-net.blogspot.com
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Thank you David. Will go back and check, all I know is that what I got was reading glasses. Regards Arjang On 14 May 2010 10:14, David Boccabella wrote: > We actually grind the lenses. Have a chat to your Optometrist. > > They are Shamir Autograph Office > > > > David J. Boccabella > Proprietor > Anubis Systems > Phone: 0433 808 525 > Fax: 3200 0085 > Email: davidboccabe...@anubis-systems.com > > This e-mail and it's contents is confidential to Anubis Systems. > This e-mail, any attachments, or any part of can not be reproduced > without the express written permission of Anubis Systems > > > -Original Message- > From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On > Behalf Of mike smith > Sent: Friday, 14 May 2010 10:07 AM > To: ozDotNet > Subject: Re: [OT] Odd Question/Situation > > On 12 May 2010 17:08, David Boccabella > wrote: >> Working in an optical lens grinding company there are many ways to grind >> lenses to suit programmers. One of the main ones we do is call Autograph >> Office for that purpose. >> >> >> >> When grinding we not only take into account the direct vision i.e. – what >> the eye is looking at when looking ahead, but also when the eye needs to >> move side to side as in reading or looking at a computer screen. >> > > Does it work over 3 screens? As I said, my glasses are (for) > long-distance, but the astigmatism exists still. > >> >> >> For example – with the glasses I am wearing now - the centre of the screen >> is in focus, and the edges of the screen are also in focus and not >> distorted. >> > > That's neat. > >> >> >> With non Office lenses you will find that the centre of the screen is >> perfect however the edges are blurred until you move your head to read the >> edges (by directing your vision). You cannot move your eyes because you will >> be looking at the lens through an angle. >> >> > > Trouble with 3 screens, is if I sit back far enough to look at the 3 > screens without moving my head, the system's out of focus for me. Do > you distribute in Canberra, and who is it? > >> >> The same with the up/down vision as the lower section of the lens is ground >> to give better results when looking slightly down at a screen, and when you >> look up the upper part of the lens is ground for longer vision. >> >> >> >> So hopefully that will help. >> >> >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> >> >> >> David J. Boccabella >> >> Proprietor >> Anubis Systems >> Phone: 0433 808 525 >> >> Fax: 3200 0085 >> Email: davidboccabe...@anubis-systems.com >> >> This e-mail and it's contents is confidential to Anubis Systems. >> This e-mail, any attachments, or any part of can not be reproduced >> without the express written permission of Anubis Systems >> >> >> >> >> From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] >> On Behalf Of Stephen Price >> Sent: Wednesday, 12 May 2010 4:55 PM >> >> To: ozDotNet >> Subject: Re: [OT] Odd Question/Situation >> >> >> >> I had this cool idea of applying a distortion or blur over the top of your >> monitor so that it corrects for astigmatism. It would mean you could sit and >> look at your screen all day without needing to use glasses, and without >> getting tired eyes. >> >> >> >> The thing with astigmatism is that you have different focal lengths for >> vertical vs horizontal lines. Text is made up of both vertical and >> horizontal lines so your eyes continually refocusing (when I was younger my >> eyes could do it for a long time before getting exhausted so I didn't know I >> had it until I got older and started getting blurry vision after reading for >> half hour). It would be so cool to turn on an app and take off your glasses. >> :) >> >> On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 2:42 PM, mike smith wrote: >> >> On 12 May 2010 15:04, Arjang Assadi wrote: >>> Got eye exam, got reading gleasses, But when there is zoom do we need >>> gleasses? >>> >>> If we can change the size of what we read do we really need to use >>> reading glasses (and keep the font
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We actually grind the lenses. Have a chat to your Optometrist. They are Shamir Autograph Office David J. Boccabella Proprietor Anubis Systems Phone: 0433 808 525 Fax: 3200 0085 Email: davidboccabe...@anubis-systems.com This e-mail and it's contents is confidential to Anubis Systems. This e-mail, any attachments, or any part of can not be reproduced without the express written permission of Anubis Systems -Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of mike smith Sent: Friday, 14 May 2010 10:07 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Odd Question/Situation On 12 May 2010 17:08, David Boccabella wrote: > Working in an optical lens grinding company there are many ways to grind > lenses to suit programmers. One of the main ones we do is call Autograph > Office for that purpose. > > > > When grinding we not only take into account the direct vision i.e. – what > the eye is looking at when looking ahead, but also when the eye needs to > move side to side as in reading or looking at a computer screen. > Does it work over 3 screens? As I said, my glasses are (for) long-distance, but the astigmatism exists still. > > > For example – with the glasses I am wearing now - the centre of the screen > is in focus, and the edges of the screen are also in focus and not > distorted. > That's neat. > > > With non Office lenses you will find that the centre of the screen is > perfect however the edges are blurred until you move your head to read the > edges (by directing your vision). You cannot move your eyes because you will > be looking at the lens through an angle. > > Trouble with 3 screens, is if I sit back far enough to look at the 3 screens without moving my head, the system's out of focus for me. Do you distribute in Canberra, and who is it? > > The same with the up/down vision as the lower section of the lens is ground > to give better results when looking slightly down at a screen, and when you > look up the upper part of the lens is ground for longer vision. > > > > So hopefully that will help. > > > > Dave > > > > > > > David J. Boccabella > > Proprietor > Anubis Systems > Phone: 0433 808 525 > > Fax: 3200 0085 > Email: davidboccabe...@anubis-systems.com > > This e-mail and it's contents is confidential to Anubis Systems. > This e-mail, any attachments, or any part of can not be reproduced > without the express written permission of Anubis Systems > ******** > > > > From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] > On Behalf Of Stephen Price > Sent: Wednesday, 12 May 2010 4:55 PM > > To: ozDotNet > Subject: Re: [OT] Odd Question/Situation > > > > I had this cool idea of applying a distortion or blur over the top of your > monitor so that it corrects for astigmatism. It would mean you could sit and > look at your screen all day without needing to use glasses, and without > getting tired eyes. > > > > The thing with astigmatism is that you have different focal lengths for > vertical vs horizontal lines. Text is made up of both vertical and > horizontal lines so your eyes continually refocusing (when I was younger my > eyes could do it for a long time before getting exhausted so I didn't know I > had it until I got older and started getting blurry vision after reading for > half hour). It would be so cool to turn on an app and take off your glasses. > :) > > On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 2:42 PM, mike smith wrote: > > On 12 May 2010 15:04, Arjang Assadi wrote: >> Got eye exam, got reading gleasses, But when there is zoom do we need >> gleasses? >> >> If we can change the size of what we read do we really need to use >> reading glasses (and keep the font the same size)? It just doesn't >> make sense , guess this is a question for Dr Carl! > > Glasses don't just fix magnification, they fix things like astigmatism > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astigmatism_(eye) > > And probably other stuff - that's a lot of what my long distance > glasses are fixing though. > >> >> I know it is not Friday > > It must be Thursday, I never could get the hang of Thursdays. > > >> >> Regards >> >> Arjang >> > > > > -- > Meski > > "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, > you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills > > -- Meski "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
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On 14 May 2010 10:10, mike smith wrote: > DO you *have* to be awake? > The operation only takes about 60 seconds. I'm not sure it is worth the risk of putting you under general. -- David Connors (da...@codify.com) Software Engineer Codify Pty Ltd - www.codify.com Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 363 V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact
Re: [OT] Odd Question/Situation
On 12 May 2010 17:21, Michael Minutillo wrote: > I'm fine with all of that except the bit where you're awake watching them do > it. I don't care how much Valium or how many anesthetic eye drops I'm given > I'm not doing that. DO you *have* to be awake? -- Meski "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
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On 12 May 2010 17:08, David Boccabella wrote: > Working in an optical lens grinding company there are many ways to grind > lenses to suit programmers. One of the main ones we do is call Autograph > Office for that purpose. > > > > When grinding we not only take into account the direct vision i.e. – what > the eye is looking at when looking ahead, but also when the eye needs to > move side to side as in reading or looking at a computer screen. > Does it work over 3 screens? As I said, my glasses are (for) long-distance, but the astigmatism exists still. > > > For example – with the glasses I am wearing now - the centre of the screen > is in focus, and the edges of the screen are also in focus and not > distorted. > That's neat. > > > With non Office lenses you will find that the centre of the screen is > perfect however the edges are blurred until you move your head to read the > edges (by directing your vision). You cannot move your eyes because you will > be looking at the lens through an angle. > > Trouble with 3 screens, is if I sit back far enough to look at the 3 screens without moving my head, the system's out of focus for me. Do you distribute in Canberra, and who is it? > > The same with the up/down vision as the lower section of the lens is ground > to give better results when looking slightly down at a screen, and when you > look up the upper part of the lens is ground for longer vision. > > > > So hopefully that will help. > > > > Dave > > > > > > > David J. Boccabella > > Proprietor > Anubis Systems > Phone: 0433 808 525 > > Fax: 3200 0085 > Email: davidboccabe...@anubis-systems.com > > This e-mail and it's contents is confidential to Anubis Systems. > This e-mail, any attachments, or any part of can not be reproduced > without the express written permission of Anubis Systems > > > > > From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] > On Behalf Of Stephen Price > Sent: Wednesday, 12 May 2010 4:55 PM > > To: ozDotNet > Subject: Re: [OT] Odd Question/Situation > > > > I had this cool idea of applying a distortion or blur over the top of your > monitor so that it corrects for astigmatism. It would mean you could sit and > look at your screen all day without needing to use glasses, and without > getting tired eyes. > > > > The thing with astigmatism is that you have different focal lengths for > vertical vs horizontal lines. Text is made up of both vertical and > horizontal lines so your eyes continually refocusing (when I was younger my > eyes could do it for a long time before getting exhausted so I didn't know I > had it until I got older and started getting blurry vision after reading for > half hour). It would be so cool to turn on an app and take off your glasses. > :) > > On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 2:42 PM, mike smith wrote: > > On 12 May 2010 15:04, Arjang Assadi wrote: >> Got eye exam, got reading gleasses, But when there is zoom do we need >> gleasses? >> >> If we can change the size of what we read do we really need to use >> reading glasses (and keep the font the same size)? It just doesn't >> make sense , guess this is a question for Dr Carl! > > Glasses don't just fix magnification, they fix things like astigmatism > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astigmatism_(eye) > > And probably other stuff - that's a lot of what my long distance > glasses are fixing though. > >> >> I know it is not Friday > > It must be Thursday, I never could get the hang of Thursdays. > > >> >> Regards >> >> Arjang >> > > > > -- > Meski > > "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, > you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills > > -- Meski "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
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I did Applied Physics (*Vegie Physics*) at first year university it covered all the lens stuff, it was actually quite interesting On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 8:13 PM, silky wrote: > > Got eye exam, got reading gleasses, But when there is zoom do we need > gleasses? > > > > If we can change the size of what we read do we really need to use > > reading glasses (and keep the font the same size)? It just doesn't > > make sense , guess this is a question for Dr Carl! > > Assuming you have either Hyperopia (Far-sighted) or Myopia > (Short-sighted), the answer would appear to be yes - you still need > glasses (in agreement with others). > > >From your description I'm assuming you have Hyperopia. This means that > something has to be far away to be in focus. > > The reason for the issue, if I may, is that the eyeball is too short. > This means that the focal point of the eye is actually *behind* the > retina. > > So what you've got is some glasses that correct this, by creating a > 'virtual' image (of the close object) at slightly further distance > that you can actually focus at. So some lenses are created for you in > the following fashion: > > 1/[normal near focal point: 25cm] + 1/[your actual focal point] = > 1/[focal length] > > The final answer being something like: P = 3.3D (this might be on your > presciption; you'll need to calculate the numbers yourself). > > Anyway, what I should probably have said, is that the size of the > object has no bearing on whether it is in focus. For it to be in > focus, the previous equation, called the "lense-makers" equation[1]: > > 1/[object distance] + 1/[image distance] = 1/[focal length] > > Must be satisfied. The eye can change its own focal length, so all the > matters are the distances. Just because you make something larger > doesn't mean its closer. > > Now, let it be said, I may have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about. > > > > I know it is not Friday > > > > Regards > > > > Arjang > > -- > silky > > http://www.programmingbranch.com/ > > [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lens_%28optics%29 > -- .net noobie™ = What is the 'Clean Feed'? No!!! Forced Australian Federal Government Internet Censorship http://nocleanfeed.com/
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> Got eye exam, got reading gleasses, But when there is zoom do we need > gleasses? > > If we can change the size of what we read do we really need to use > reading glasses (and keep the font the same size)? It just doesn't > make sense , guess this is a question for Dr Carl! Assuming you have either Hyperopia (Far-sighted) or Myopia (Short-sighted), the answer would appear to be yes - you still need glasses (in agreement with others). >From your description I'm assuming you have Hyperopia. This means that something has to be far away to be in focus. The reason for the issue, if I may, is that the eyeball is too short. This means that the focal point of the eye is actually *behind* the retina. So what you've got is some glasses that correct this, by creating a 'virtual' image (of the close object) at slightly further distance that you can actually focus at. So some lenses are created for you in the following fashion: 1/[normal near focal point: 25cm] + 1/[your actual focal point] = 1/[focal length] The final answer being something like: P = 3.3D (this might be on your presciption; you'll need to calculate the numbers yourself). Anyway, what I should probably have said, is that the size of the object has no bearing on whether it is in focus. For it to be in focus, the previous equation, called the "lense-makers" equation[1]: 1/[object distance] + 1/[image distance] = 1/[focal length] Must be satisfied. The eye can change its own focal length, so all the matters are the distances. Just because you make something larger doesn't mean its closer. Now, let it be said, I may have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about. > I know it is not Friday > > Regards > > Arjang -- silky http://www.programmingbranch.com/ [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lens_%28optics%29
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I drew a cartoon once of a guy rocking up to surgery to have a colonoscopy, with a box of popcorn in hand. Can't believe they let you watch that. No, that wasn't from experience, my dad gave me the idea for the joke. http://www.motivatedphotos.com/?id=16965 Some things can not be unseen. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Michael Minutillo < michael.minuti...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm fine with all of that except the bit where you're awake watching them > do it. I don't care how much Valium or how many anesthetic eye drops I'm > given I'm not doing that. > > > On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 3:12 PM, David Connors wrote: > >> On 12 May 2010 17:04, Stephen Price wrote: >> >>> Hmm... write/run a cool application or have my cornea's gouged out with >>> laser beams. Tough choice... >> >> >> I watched a bunch of youtube videos before my wife had Lasik ... I don't >> think they can really use any Lasik footage ever when trying to sell the >> operation at $2500 per eye. >> >> They peel your eyelids back with little clips and then put a mechanical >> clamp thing on your eyeball itself. Then they slice the top off your eyeball >> with a very, very, very small microtome. Then they vapourise the exposed bit >> of your eye with the Eye Laser (you have to say it like Dr Evil) before >> putting the flap they microtomed off back over (that helps it heal faster >> apparently). >> >> I think I just talked 300 people out of Lasik. >> >> -- >> David Connors (da...@codify.com) >> Software Engineer >> Codify Pty Ltd - www.codify.com >> Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 >> 189 363 >> V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors >> Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact >> >> > > > -- > Michael M. Minutillo > Indiscriminate Information Sponge > Blog: http://wolfbyte-net.blogspot.com >
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On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Michael Minutillo < michael.minuti...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm fine with all of that except the bit where you're awake watching them > do it. I don't care how much Valium or how many anesthetic eye drops I'm > given I'm not doing that. > > My wife has a degenerative eye disease and recently had to get cataract surgery. They peel away the skin over the lens, then remove the lens and replace it with a plastic one before re-covering it. All of this while awake and watching (until your eye goes blurry when the lens is removed). I'll take Lasik any day over this. > > -- > Michael M. Minutillo > Indiscriminate Information Sponge > Blog: http://wolfbyte-net.blogspot.com >
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I'm fine with all of that except the bit where you're awake watching them do it. I don't care how much Valium or how many anesthetic eye drops I'm given I'm not doing that. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 3:12 PM, David Connors wrote: > On 12 May 2010 17:04, Stephen Price wrote: > >> Hmm... write/run a cool application or have my cornea's gouged out with >> laser beams. Tough choice... > > > I watched a bunch of youtube videos before my wife had Lasik ... I don't > think they can really use any Lasik footage ever when trying to sell the > operation at $2500 per eye. > > They peel your eyelids back with little clips and then put a mechanical > clamp thing on your eyeball itself. Then they slice the top off your eyeball > with a very, very, very small microtome. Then they vapourise the exposed bit > of your eye with the Eye Laser (you have to say it like Dr Evil) before > putting the flap they microtomed off back over (that helps it heal faster > apparently). > > I think I just talked 300 people out of Lasik. > > -- > David Connors (da...@codify.com) > Software Engineer > Codify Pty Ltd - www.codify.com > Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 > 189 363 > V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors > Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact > > -- Michael M. Minutillo Indiscriminate Information Sponge Blog: http://wolfbyte-net.blogspot.com
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On 12 May 2010 17:04, Stephen Price wrote: > Hmm... write/run a cool application or have my cornea's gouged out with > laser beams. Tough choice... I watched a bunch of youtube videos before my wife had Lasik ... I don't think they can really use any Lasik footage ever when trying to sell the operation at $2500 per eye. They peel your eyelids back with little clips and then put a mechanical clamp thing on your eyeball itself. Then they slice the top off your eyeball with a very, very, very small microtome. Then they vapourise the exposed bit of your eye with the Eye Laser (you have to say it like Dr Evil) before putting the flap they microtomed off back over (that helps it heal faster apparently). I think I just talked 300 people out of Lasik. -- David Connors (da...@codify.com) Software Engineer Codify Pty Ltd - www.codify.com Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 363 V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact
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Working in an optical lens grinding company there are many ways to grind lenses to suit programmers. One of the main ones we do is call Autograph Office for that purpose. When grinding we not only take into account the direct vision i.e. - what the eye is looking at when looking ahead, but also when the eye needs to move side to side as in reading or looking at a computer screen. For example - with the glasses I am wearing now - the centre of the screen is in focus, and the edges of the screen are also in focus and not distorted. With non Office lenses you will find that the centre of the screen is perfect however the edges are blurred until you move your head to read the edges (by directing your vision). You cannot move your eyes because you will be looking at the lens through an angle. The same with the up/down vision as the lower section of the lens is ground to give better results when looking slightly down at a screen, and when you look up the upper part of the lens is ground for longer vision. So hopefully that will help. Dave David J. Boccabella Proprietor Anubis Systems Phone: 0433 808 525 Fax: 3200 0085 Email: <mailto:boo...@cvsol.com> davidboccabe...@anubis-systems.com This e-mail and it's contents is confidential to Anubis Systems. This e-mail, any attachments, or any part of can not be reproduced without the express written permission of Anubis Systems From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Price Sent: Wednesday, 12 May 2010 4:55 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Odd Question/Situation I had this cool idea of applying a distortion or blur over the top of your monitor so that it corrects for astigmatism. It would mean you could sit and look at your screen all day without needing to use glasses, and without getting tired eyes. The thing with astigmatism is that you have different focal lengths for vertical vs horizontal lines. Text is made up of both vertical and horizontal lines so your eyes continually refocusing (when I was younger my eyes could do it for a long time before getting exhausted so I didn't know I had it until I got older and started getting blurry vision after reading for half hour). It would be so cool to turn on an app and take off your glasses. :) On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 2:42 PM, mike smith wrote: On 12 May 2010 15:04, Arjang Assadi wrote: > Got eye exam, got reading gleasses, But when there is zoom do we need gleasses? > > If we can change the size of what we read do we really need to use > reading glasses (and keep the font the same size)? It just doesn't > make sense , guess this is a question for Dr Carl! Glasses don't just fix magnification, they fix things like astigmatism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astigmatism_(eye) And probably other stuff - that's a lot of what my long distance glasses are fixing though. > > I know it is not Friday It must be Thursday, I never could get the hang of Thursdays. > > Regards > > Arjang > -- Meski "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
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Hmm... write/run a cool application or have my cornea's gouged out with laser beams. Tough choice... On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 3:00 PM, David Connors wrote: > On 12 May 2010 16:54, Stephen Price wrote: > >> I had this cool idea of applying a distortion or blur over the top of your >> monitor so that it corrects for astigmatism. It would mean you could sit and >> look at your screen all day without needing to use glasses, and without >> getting tired eyes. >> >> The thing with astigmatism is that you have different focal lengths for >> vertical vs horizontal lines. Text is made up of both vertical and >> horizontal lines so your eyes continually refocusing (when I was younger my >> eyes could do it for a long time before getting exhausted so I didn't know I >> had it until I got older and started getting blurry vision after reading for >> half hour). It would be so cool to turn on an app and take off your glasses. >> :) >> > > Or get Lasik (works in RL too - not just on the Internet). > > -- > David Connors (da...@codify.com) > Software Engineer > Codify Pty Ltd - www.codify.com > Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 > 189 363 > V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors > Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact > >
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On 12 May 2010 16:54, Stephen Price wrote: > I had this cool idea of applying a distortion or blur over the top of your > monitor so that it corrects for astigmatism. It would mean you could sit and > look at your screen all day without needing to use glasses, and without > getting tired eyes. > > The thing with astigmatism is that you have different focal lengths for > vertical vs horizontal lines. Text is made up of both vertical and > horizontal lines so your eyes continually refocusing (when I was younger my > eyes could do it for a long time before getting exhausted so I didn't know I > had it until I got older and started getting blurry vision after reading for > half hour). It would be so cool to turn on an app and take off your glasses. > :) > Or get Lasik (works in RL too - not just on the Internet). -- David Connors (da...@codify.com) Software Engineer Codify Pty Ltd - www.codify.com Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 363 V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact
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I had this cool idea of applying a distortion or blur over the top of your monitor so that it corrects for astigmatism. It would mean you could sit and look at your screen all day without needing to use glasses, and without getting tired eyes. The thing with astigmatism is that you have different focal lengths for vertical vs horizontal lines. Text is made up of both vertical and horizontal lines so your eyes continually refocusing (when I was younger my eyes could do it for a long time before getting exhausted so I didn't know I had it until I got older and started getting blurry vision after reading for half hour). It would be so cool to turn on an app and take off your glasses. :) On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 2:42 PM, mike smith wrote: > On 12 May 2010 15:04, Arjang Assadi wrote: > > Got eye exam, got reading gleasses, But when there is zoom do we need > gleasses? > > > > If we can change the size of what we read do we really need to use > > reading glasses (and keep the font the same size)? It just doesn't > > make sense , guess this is a question for Dr Carl! > > Glasses don't just fix magnification, they fix things like astigmatism > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astigmatism_(eye) > > And probably other stuff - that's a lot of what my long distance > glasses are fixing though. > > > > > I know it is not Friday > > It must be Thursday, I never could get the hang of Thursdays. > > > > > > Regards > > > > Arjang > > > > > > -- > Meski > > "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, > you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills >
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On 12 May 2010 16:09, Michael Minutillo wrote: > You fix that by having two tvs each showing a different channel Can you get optically corrected 3d lcd shutter glasses? I'm thinking it could be just software. -- Meski "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
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On 12 May 2010 15:04, Arjang Assadi wrote: > Got eye exam, got reading gleasses, But when there is zoom do we need > gleasses? > > If we can change the size of what we read do we really need to use > reading glasses (and keep the font the same size)? It just doesn't > make sense , guess this is a question for Dr Carl! Glasses don't just fix magnification, they fix things like astigmatism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astigmatism_(eye) And probably other stuff - that's a lot of what my long distance glasses are fixing though. > > I know it is not Friday It must be Thursday, I never could get the hang of Thursdays. > > Regards > > Arjang > -- Meski "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
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You fix that by having two tvs each showing a different channel On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 2:01 PM, William Luu wrote: > Ah, the so called lazy eye. > > > On 12 May 2010 15:20, Simon Haigh wrote: > >> You'd be surprised just how many kids can't focus properly when the >> focal length is relatively short. Generally one eye focus and the other one >> "Wanders". >> >> >> >> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: >> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Connors >> *Sent:* Wednesday, 12 May 2010 03:16 PM >> *To:* ozDotNet >> *Subject:* Re: [OT] Odd Question/Situation >> >> >> >> On 12 May 2010 15:13, David Burstin wrote: >> >> 1. Your eyes don't focus well at a particular focal distance (x). >> >> 2. Your screen is at distance x, so it is hard to read because it is not >> very clear due to 1. >> >> 3a. You get reading glasses so your eyes can focus at that distance >> >> or >> >> 3b. You increase the font so the reduced focus is "non-breaking" - your >> brain doesn't care that the edges of the letters are not in focus because >> there is enough for it to interpret. >> >> >> >> Both 3a and 3b produce the desired result - you can read the page. My >> preference would be for the glasses - reduces the need for the brain to >> interpret and ignore, treats the problem not the symptom. >> >> >> >> The key take-away from this discussion is that you should let your >> children sit as close to the TV as possible to reduce their eye strain and >> potential need to wear glasses in the future. >> >> >> >> -- >> David Connors (da...@codify.com) >> Software Engineer >> Codify Pty Ltd - www.codify.com >> Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 >> 189 363 >> V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors >> Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact >> >> >> >> This email (including all attachments) is confidential, may contain >> personal or legally privileged information and is intended solely for the >> named addressee. Confidentiality or privilege is not waived or lost because >> this email has been sent to you by mistake. If you have received it in >> error, please let us know by reply email, delete it from your system and >> destroy any copies. >> This email is also subject to copyright. No part of it should be >> reproduced, adapted or communicated without the written consent of the >> copyright owner. Any personal information in this email must be handled in >> accordance with the Privacy Act 1988 (Cth). >> Emails may be interfered with, may contain computer viruses or other >> defects and may not be successfully replicated on other systems. Pillar >> Administration makes no representations and gives no warranties in relation >> to these matters and does not accept liability for any loss or damage which >> may result from this email. >> If you have any doubts about the authenticity of an email purportedly sent >> by Pillar Administration, please contact us immediately. >> >> >> > > -- Michael M. Minutillo Indiscriminate Information Sponge Blog: http://wolfbyte-net.blogspot.com
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Ah, the so called lazy eye. On 12 May 2010 15:20, Simon Haigh wrote: > You'd be surprised just how many kids can't focus properly when the focal > length is relatively short. Generally one eye focus and the other one > "Wanders". > > > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Connors > *Sent:* Wednesday, 12 May 2010 03:16 PM > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* Re: [OT] Odd Question/Situation > > > > On 12 May 2010 15:13, David Burstin wrote: > > 1. Your eyes don't focus well at a particular focal distance (x). > > 2. Your screen is at distance x, so it is hard to read because it is not > very clear due to 1. > > 3a. You get reading glasses so your eyes can focus at that distance > > or > > 3b. You increase the font so the reduced focus is "non-breaking" - your > brain doesn't care that the edges of the letters are not in focus because > there is enough for it to interpret. > > > > Both 3a and 3b produce the desired result - you can read the page. My > preference would be for the glasses - reduces the need for the brain to > interpret and ignore, treats the problem not the symptom. > > > > The key take-away from this discussion is that you should let your children > sit as close to the TV as possible to reduce their eye strain and potential > need to wear glasses in the future. > > > > -- > David Connors (da...@codify.com) > Software Engineer > Codify Pty Ltd - www.codify.com > Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 > 189 363 > V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors > Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact > > > > This email (including all attachments) is confidential, may contain > personal or legally privileged information and is intended solely for the > named addressee. Confidentiality or privilege is not waived or lost because > this email has been sent to you by mistake. If you have received it in > error, please let us know by reply email, delete it from your system and > destroy any copies. > This email is also subject to copyright. No part of it should be > reproduced, adapted or communicated without the written consent of the > copyright owner. Any personal information in this email must be handled in > accordance with the Privacy Act 1988 (Cth). > Emails may be interfered with, may contain computer viruses or other > defects and may not be successfully replicated on other systems. Pillar > Administration makes no representations and gives no warranties in relation > to these matters and does not accept liability for any loss or damage which > may result from this email. > If you have any doubts about the authenticity of an email purportedly sent > by Pillar Administration, please contact us immediately. > > >
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You'd be surprised just how many kids can't focus properly when the focal length is relatively short. Generally one eye focus and the other one "Wanders". From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Connors Sent: Wednesday, 12 May 2010 03:16 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Odd Question/Situation On 12 May 2010 15:13, David Burstin wrote: 1. Your eyes don't focus well at a particular focal distance (x). 2. Your screen is at distance x, so it is hard to read because it is not very clear due to 1. 3a. You get reading glasses so your eyes can focus at that distance or 3b. You increase the font so the reduced focus is "non-breaking" - your brain doesn't care that the edges of the letters are not in focus because there is enough for it to interpret. Both 3a and 3b produce the desired result - you can read the page. My preference would be for the glasses - reduces the need for the brain to interpret and ignore, treats the problem not the symptom. The key take-away from this discussion is that you should let your children sit as close to the TV as possible to reduce their eye strain and potential need to wear glasses in the future. -- David Connors (da...@codify.com) Software Engineer Codify Pty Ltd - www.codify.com Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 363 V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact This email (including all attachments) is confidential, may contain personal or legally privileged information and is intended solely for the named addressee. Confidentiality or privilege is not waived or lost because this email has been sent to you by mistake. If you have received it in error, please let us know by reply email, delete it from your system and destroy any copies. This email is also subject to copyright. No part of it should be reproduced, adapted or communicated without the written consent of the copyright owner. Any personal information in this email must be handled in accordance with the Privacy Act 1988 (Cth). Emails may be interfered with, may contain computer viruses or other defects and may not be successfully replicated on other systems. Pillar Administration makes no representations and gives no warranties in relation to these matters and does not accept liability for any loss or damage which may result from this email. If you have any doubts about the authenticity of an email purportedly sent by Pillar Administration, please contact us immediately.
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On 12 May 2010 15:13, David Burstin wrote: > 1. Your eyes don't focus well at a particular focal distance (x). > 2. Your screen is at distance x, so it is hard to read because it is not > very clear due to 1. > 3a. You get reading glasses so your eyes can focus at that distance > or > 3b. You increase the font so the reduced focus is "non-breaking" - your > brain doesn't care that the edges of the letters are not in focus because > there is enough for it to interpret. > > Both 3a and 3b produce the desired result - you can read the page. My > preference would be for the glasses - reduces the need for the brain to > interpret and ignore, treats the problem not the symptom. > The key take-away from this discussion is that you should let your children sit as close to the TV as possible to reduce their eye strain and potential need to wear glasses in the future. -- David Connors (da...@codify.com) Software Engineer Codify Pty Ltd - www.codify.com Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 363 V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact
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My take on the situation: 1. Your eyes don't focus well at a particular focal distance (x). 2. Your screen is at distance x, so it is hard to read because it is not very clear due to 1. 3a. You get reading glasses so your eyes can focus at that distance or 3b. You increase the font so the reduced focus is "non-breaking" - your brain doesn't care that the edges of the letters are not in focus because there is enough for it to interpret. Both 3a and 3b produce the desired result - you can read the page. My preference would be for the glasses - reduces the need for the brain to interpret and ignore, treats the problem not the symptom. YMMV. Dave On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Arjang Assadi wrote: > Got eye exam, got reading gleasses, But when there is zoom do we need > gleasses? > > If we can change the size of what we read do we really need to use > reading glasses (and keep the font the same size)? It just doesn't > make sense , guess this is a question for Dr Carl! > > I know it is not Friday > > Regards > > Arjang >
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Yes. Depending on what type of glasses you have you may still need to use your glasses regardless of the size of the font. In my case, my new glasses help my eyes focus at a specific length (approx 50-55cm). -Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Arjang Assadi Sent: Wednesday, 12 May 2010 03:04 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: [OT] Odd Question/Situation Got eye exam, got reading gleasses, But when there is zoom do we need gleasses? If we can change the size of what we read do we really need to use reading glasses (and keep the font the same size)? It just doesn't make sense , guess this is a question for Dr Carl! I know it is not Friday Regards Arjang This email (including all attachments) is confidential, may contain personal or legally privileged information and is intended solely for the named addressee. Confidentiality or privilege is not waived or lost because this email has been sent to you by mistake. If you have received it in error, please let us know by reply email, delete it from your system and destroy any copies. This email is also subject to copyright. No part of it should be reproduced, adapted or communicated without the written consent of the copyright owner. Any personal information in this email must be handled in accordance with the Privacy Act 1988 (Cth). Emails may be interfered with, may contain computer viruses or other defects and may not be successfully replicated on other systems. Pillar Administration makes no representations and gives no warranties in relation to these matters and does not accept liability for any loss or damage which may result from this email. If you have any doubts about the authenticity of an email purportedly sent by Pillar Administration, please contact us immediately.
