Re: VS2012 hacks
iOS7 is what happeneded the night of Steve Jobs funeral as they all sat in a bar listening to Whitesnake (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOJk0HW_hJw) doing lines of cocaine and suddenly reliving your 80's and after then upgrading your digital skuemorphism to the next circle of design hell ... 80's iOS ..it's the mullet Steve would have wanted. --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:29 PM, mike smith meski...@gmail.com wrote: I don't get Apple design. How could the designers of OSX have come up with a dog like iOS? Mike On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.comwrote: VS2012 design could have been worse.. Apple could have designed it :) http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/780667831.jpg?1371031013 --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Ian Thomas il.tho...@iinet.net.auwrote: Greg, Greg – I put it down to the UIX guru / fiend that obviously exerted great influence over the PMs and higher-ups in Microsoft. I can’t stand Office 2013 – I appreciate some features, but find some of the behaviours and the UI itself just counter-productive (ie, anti my productivity). I don’t think I am resistant to change. I removed it, in favour of Office 2010 (incidentally, I never used Office2007 and took to the ribbon OK). There is another VS2012 hack that I omitted – NiceVS. It overlaps with one of the other hacks that I listed. NiceVS http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/a36021f0-770a-4258-854e-724e9d12b8a6 I hate to have to do these things. -- **Ian Thomas** Victoria Park, Western Australia ** ** ** ** *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Greg Keogh *Sent:* Saturday, June 15, 2013 9:30 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: VS2012 hacks ** ** Ian (et al), I have also taken a lot of steps recently to restore old colours and behaviour to recent Microsoft product releases. I don't normally do that. We all expect complaints when new versions of products are released, but in my experience the noise quickly drops away and people just accept the changes and run with them. However, the amount of stubborn resistance recently has been quite startling. Why is this happening? Microsoft is dragging us all along with it on some sort of global style change where there is less chrome, fewer borders, less saturated colour, fewer lines, etc. Now I can honestly understand this because the eye and brain work better with less clutter, but it all seems to have gone too far (remember the first preview of Visual Studio 2012 that looked like a charcoal etching?). Is there some department or research within Microsoft that is driving this trend? Do they explain their reasoning? Where did they recruit the drugged gibbons they put through the usability testing? And then there's Windows 8 ... Greg -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills
RE: VS2012 hacks
Well said. Punished myself by using it for a day - never been so relieved to get rid of it (oh wait, actually the last time was when I tried using an iphone 5 for a week... need I say more). Nick Randolph| Built to Roam Pty Ltd | Microsoft MVP - Windows Phone Development | +61 412 413 425 | @btroam | skype:nick_randolph The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built to Roam Pty Ltd does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built to Roam Pty Ltd. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Thursday, 20 June 2013 7:46 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: VS2012 hacks iOS7 is what happeneded the night of Steve Jobs funeral as they all sat in a bar listening to Whitesnake (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOJk0HW_hJw) doing lines of cocaine and suddenly reliving your 80's and after then upgrading your digital skuemorphism to the next circle of design hell ... 80's iOS ..it's the mullet Steve would have wanted. --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:29 PM, mike smith meski...@gmail.commailto:meski...@gmail.com wrote: I don't get Apple design. How could the designers of OSX have come up with a dog like iOS? Mike On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.commailto:scott.bar...@gmail.com wrote: VS2012 design could have been worse.. Apple could have designed it :) http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/780667831.jpg?1371031013 --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Ian Thomas il.tho...@iinet.net.aumailto:il.tho...@iinet.net.au wrote: Greg, Greg - I put it down to the UIX guru / fiend that obviously exerted great influence over the PMs and higher-ups in Microsoft. I can't stand Office 2013 - I appreciate some features, but find some of the behaviours and the UI itself just counter-productive (ie, anti my productivity). I don't think I am resistant to change. I removed it, in favour of Office 2010 (incidentally, I never used Office2007 and took to the ribbon OK). There is another VS2012 hack that I omitted - NiceVS. It overlaps with one of the other hacks that I listed. NiceVS http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/a36021f0-770a-4258-854e-724e9d12b8a6 I hate to have to do these things. Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Greg Keogh Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 9:30 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: VS2012 hacks Ian (et al), I have also taken a lot of steps recently to restore old colours and behaviour to recent Microsoft product releases. I don't normally do that. We all expect complaints when new versions of products are released, but in my experience the noise quickly drops away and people just accept the changes and run with them. However, the amount of stubborn resistance recently has been quite startling. Why is this happening? Microsoft is dragging us all along with it on some sort of global style change where there is less chrome, fewer borders, less saturated colour, fewer lines, etc. Now I can honestly understand this because the eye and brain work better with less clutter, but it all seems to have gone too far (remember the first preview of Visual Studio 2012 that looked like a charcoal etching?). Is there some department or research within Microsoft that is driving this trend? Do they explain their reasoning? Where did they recruit the drugged gibbons they put through the usability testing? And then there's Windows 8 ... Greg -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills
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Nice quote. Google says it's *skeuomorphism *though. (what kind of language puts euo in that order???) Mike On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 7:45 PM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.comwrote: iOS7 is what happeneded the night of Steve Jobs funeral as they all sat in a bar listening to Whitesnake (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOJk0HW_hJw) doing lines of cocaine and suddenly reliving your 80's and after then upgrading your digital skuemorphism to the next circle of design hell ... 80's iOS ..it's the mullet Steve would have wanted. --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:29 PM, mike smith meski...@gmail.com wrote: I don't get Apple design. How could the designers of OSX have come up with a dog like iOS? Mike On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.comwrote: VS2012 design could have been worse.. Apple could have designed it :) http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/780667831.jpg?1371031013 --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Ian Thomas il.tho...@iinet.net.auwrote: Greg, Greg – I put it down to the UIX guru / fiend that obviously exerted great influence over the PMs and higher-ups in Microsoft. I can’t stand Office 2013 – I appreciate some features, but find some of the behaviours and the UI itself just counter-productive (ie, anti my productivity). I don’t think I am resistant to change. I removed it, in favour of Office 2010 (incidentally, I never used Office2007 and took to the ribbon OK). There is another VS2012 hack that I omitted – NiceVS. It overlaps with one of the other hacks that I listed. NiceVS http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/a36021f0-770a-4258-854e-724e9d12b8a6 I hate to have to do these things. -- **Ian Thomas** Victoria Park, Western Australia ** ** ** ** *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Greg Keogh *Sent:* Saturday, June 15, 2013 9:30 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: VS2012 hacks ** ** Ian (et al), I have also taken a lot of steps recently to restore old colours and behaviour to recent Microsoft product releases. I don't normally do that. We all expect complaints when new versions of products are released, but in my experience the noise quickly drops away and people just accept the changes and run with them. However, the amount of stubborn resistance recently has been quite startling. Why is this happening?*** * Microsoft is dragging us all along with it on some sort of global style change where there is less chrome, fewer borders, less saturated colour, fewer lines, etc. Now I can honestly understand this because the eye and brain work better with less clutter, but it all seems to have gone too far (remember the first preview of Visual Studio 2012 that looked like a charcoal etching?). Is there some department or research within Microsoft that is driving this trend? Do they explain their reasoning? Where did they recruit the drugged gibbons they put through the usability testing? And then there's Windows 8 ... Greg -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills
RE: VS2012 hacks
It’s Greek to me J - but was Scott subconsciously associating designs (skeumorphs) with stock keeping units (SKUs)? But aren’t all Apple designs perfect? I have to smile at the grudging praise of Microsoft Surface (the hardware) by the Apple fanbois. _ Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of mike smith Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 9:33 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: VS2012 hacks Nice quote. Google says it's skeuomorphism though. (what kind of language puts euo in that order???) Mike On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 7:45 PM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.com wrote: iOS7 is what happeneded the night of Steve Jobs funeral as they all sat in a bar listening to Whitesnake (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOJk0HW_hJw) doing lines of cocaine and suddenly reliving your 80's and after then upgrading your digital skuemorphism to the next circle of design hell ... 80's iOS ..it's the mullet Steve would have wanted. --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:29 PM, mike smith meski...@gmail.com wrote: I don't get Apple design. How could the designers of OSX have come up with a dog like iOS? Mike On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.com wrote: VS2012 design could have been worse.. Apple could have designed it :) http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/780667831.jpg?1371031013 --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Ian Thomas il.tho...@iinet.net.au wrote: Greg, Greg – I put it down to the UIX guru / fiend that obviously exerted great influence over the PMs and higher-ups in Microsoft. I can’t stand Office 2013 – I appreciate some features, but find some of the behaviours and the UI itself just counter-productive (ie, anti my productivity). I don’t think I am resistant to change. I removed it, in favour of Office 2010 (incidentally, I never used Office2007 and took to the ribbon OK). There is another VS2012 hack that I omitted – NiceVS. It overlaps with one of the other hacks that I listed. NiceVS http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/a36021f0-770a-4258-854e-724e9d12b8a6 I hate to have to do these things. _ Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Greg Keogh Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 9:30 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: VS2012 hacks Ian (et al), I have also taken a lot of steps recently to restore old colours and behaviour to recent Microsoft product releases. I don't normally do that. We all expect complaints when new versions of products are released, but in my experience the noise quickly drops away and people just accept the changes and run with them. However, the amount of stubborn resistance recently has been quite startling. Why is this happening? Microsoft is dragging us all along with it on some sort of global style change where there is less chrome, fewer borders, less saturated colour, fewer lines, etc. Now I can honestly understand this because the eye and brain work better with less clutter, but it all seems to have gone too far (remember the first preview of Visual Studio 2012 that looked like a charcoal etching?). Is there some department or research within Microsoft that is driving this trend? Do they explain their reasoning? Where did they recruit the drugged gibbons they put through the usability testing? And then there's Windows 8 ... Greg -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills
Re: VS2012 hacks
*I* have to smile at HP releasing Slate with either Android or Windows8 on it. (disclaimer, yes, I work for HP, and this isn't an official HP opinion, but a personal one) Mike On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Ian Thomas il.tho...@iinet.net.au wrote: It’s Greek to me J - but was Scott subconsciously associating designs (skeumorphs) with stock keeping units (SKUs)? But aren’t all Apple designs perfect? I have to smile at the grudging praise of Microsoft Surface (the hardware) by the Apple fanbois. -- **Ian Thomas** Victoria Park, Western Australia ** ** *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *mike smith *Sent:* Friday, June 21, 2013 9:33 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: VS2012 hacks ** ** Nice quote. Google says it's *skeuomorphism *though. (what kind of language puts euo in that order???) ** ** Mike On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 7:45 PM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.com wrote: iOS7 is what happeneded the night of Steve Jobs funeral as they all sat in a bar listening to Whitesnake (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOJk0HW_hJw) doing lines of cocaine and suddenly reliving your 80's and after then upgrading your digital skuemorphism to the next circle of design hell ... 80's iOS ..it's the mullet Steve would have wanted. --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com ** ** On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:29 PM, mike smith meski...@gmail.com wrote:** ** I don't get Apple design. How could the designers of OSX have come up with a dog like iOS? ** ** Mike ** ** On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.com wrote: VS2012 design could have been worse.. Apple could have designed it :) ** ** http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/780667831.jpg?1371031013 ** ** --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com ** ** On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Ian Thomas il.tho...@iinet.net.au wrote: Greg, Greg – I put it down to the UIX guru / fiend that obviously exerted great influence over the PMs and higher-ups in Microsoft. I can’t stand Office 2013 – I appreciate some features, but find some of the behaviours and the UI itself just counter-productive (ie, anti my productivity). I don’t think I am resistant to change. I removed it, in favour of Office 2010 (incidentally, I never used Office2007 and took to the ribbon OK). There is another VS2012 hack that I omitted – NiceVS. It overlaps with one of the other hacks that I listed. NiceVS http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/a36021f0-770a-4258-854e-724e9d12b8a6 I hate to have to do these things. -- Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Greg Keogh *Sent:* Saturday, June 15, 2013 9:30 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: VS2012 hacks Ian (et al), I have also taken a lot of steps recently to restore old colours and behaviour to recent Microsoft product releases. I don't normally do that. We all expect complaints when new versions of products are released, but in my experience the noise quickly drops away and people just accept the changes and run with them. However, the amount of stubborn resistance recently has been quite startling. Why is this happening? Microsoft is dragging us all along with it on some sort of global style change where there is less chrome, fewer borders, less saturated colour, fewer lines, etc. Now I can honestly understand this because the eye and brain work better with less clutter, but it all seems to have gone too far (remember the first preview of Visual Studio 2012 that looked like a charcoal etching?). Is there some department or research within Microsoft that is driving this trend? Do they explain their reasoning? Where did they recruit the drugged gibbons they put through the usability testing? And then there's Windows 8 ... Greg ** ** ** ** -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills ** ** ** ** -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills
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Yes, I was going to raise that with you off-list Mike. The ones I know of are the (Android) Slate 7 range and the ElitePad 800 and 900 (Win8 and Win8Pro) – quite a different price bracket, though. I didn’t know there was a Windows8 Slate (WinRT ?). _ Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of mike smith Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 12:13 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: VS2012 hacks *I* have to smile at HP releasing Slate with either Android or Windows8 on it. (disclaimer, yes, I work for HP, and this isn't an official HP opinion, but a personal one) Mike On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Ian Thomas il.tho...@iinet.net.au wrote: It’s Greek to me J - but was Scott subconsciously associating designs (skeumorphs) with stock keeping units (SKUs)? But aren’t all Apple designs perfect? I have to smile at the grudging praise of Microsoft Surface (the hardware) by the Apple fanbois. _ Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of mike smith Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 9:33 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: VS2012 hacks Nice quote. Google says it's skeuomorphism though. (what kind of language puts euo in that order???) Mike On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 7:45 PM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.com wrote: iOS7 is what happeneded the night of Steve Jobs funeral as they all sat in a bar listening to Whitesnake (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOJk0HW_hJw) doing lines of cocaine and suddenly reliving your 80's and after then upgrading your digital skuemorphism to the next circle of design hell ... 80's iOS ..it's the mullet Steve would have wanted. --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:29 PM, mike smith meski...@gmail.com wrote: I don't get Apple design. How could the designers of OSX have come up with a dog like iOS? Mike On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.com wrote: VS2012 design could have been worse.. Apple could have designed it :) http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/780667831.jpg?1371031013 --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Ian Thomas il.tho...@iinet.net.au wrote: Greg, Greg – I put it down to the UIX guru / fiend that obviously exerted great influence over the PMs and higher-ups in Microsoft. I can’t stand Office 2013 – I appreciate some features, but find some of the behaviours and the UI itself just counter-productive (ie, anti my productivity). I don’t think I am resistant to change. I removed it, in favour of Office 2010 (incidentally, I never used Office2007 and took to the ribbon OK). There is another VS2012 hack that I omitted – NiceVS. It overlaps with one of the other hacks that I listed. NiceVS http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/a36021f0-770a-4258-854e-724e9d12b8a6 I hate to have to do these things. _ Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Greg Keogh Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 9:30 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: VS2012 hacks Ian (et al), I have also taken a lot of steps recently to restore old colours and behaviour to recent Microsoft product releases. I don't normally do that. We all expect complaints when new versions of products are released, but in my experience the noise quickly drops away and people just accept the changes and run with them. However, the amount of stubborn resistance recently has been quite startling. Why is this happening? Microsoft is dragging us all along with it on some sort of global style change where there is less chrome, fewer borders, less saturated colour, fewer lines, etc. Now I can honestly understand this because the eye and brain work better with less clutter, but it all seems to have gone too far (remember the first preview of Visual Studio 2012 that looked like a charcoal etching?). Is there some department or research within Microsoft that is driving this trend? Do they explain their reasoning? Where did they recruit the drugged gibbons they put through the usability testing? And then there's Windows 8 ... Greg -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going
Re: VS2012 hacks
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: Ian (et al), I have also taken a lot of steps recently to restore old colours and behaviour to recent Microsoft product releases. I don't normally do that. We all expect complaints when new versions of products are released, but in my experience the noise quickly drops away and people just accept the changes and run with them. However, the amount of stubborn resistance recently has been quite startling. Why is this happening? Microsoft is dragging us all along with it on some sort of global style change where there is less chrome, fewer borders, less saturated colour, fewer lines, etc. Now I can honestly understand this because the eye and brain work better with less clutter, but it all seems to have gone too far (remember the first preview of Visual Studio 2012 that looked like a charcoal etching?). Is there some department or research within Microsoft that is driving this trend? Do they explain their reasoning? Where did they recruit the drugged gibbons they put through the usability testing? One suspects that they are using an animal that has monochrome vision. A dog? And then there's Windows 8 ... I'm going to sleep thru that and wait on 8.1 - after all, it is a .0 product... -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills
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THanks for all these. On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:49 PM, Ian Thomas il.tho...@iinet.net.au wrote: More ** ** Visual Studio Icon Patcher http://vsip.codeplex.com/ ** ** Visual Studio 2012 Color Theme Editor http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/366ad100-0003-4c9a-81a8-337d4e7ace05 ** ** Visual Studio 2012 Color Theme Editor (Channel9 video) http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Visual-Studio-Toolbox/Visual-Studio-2012-Color-Theme-Editor ** ** VSCommands for Visual Studio 2012 http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/a83505c6-77b3-44a6-b53b-73d77cba84c8 ** ** How To Prevent Visual Studio 2012 ALL CAPS Menus! http://www.richard-banks.org/2012/06/how-to-prevent-visual-studio-2012-all.html ** ** (it would be nice to be able revert Office2013 themes to something attractive – instead., I have reverted it totally to Office2010) ** ** -- **Ian Thomas** Victoria Park, Western Australia ** ** *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Ian Thomas *Sent:* Monday, June 10, 2013 9:52 PM *To:* ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com *Subject:* VS2012 hacks ** ** I’m discovering some hints on getting VS2012 to look half-decent again – starting with getting rid of the ALL CAPS menu headings ** ** How To Prevent Visual Studio 2012 ALL CAPS Menus! http://www.richard-banks.org/2012/06/how-to-prevent-visual-studio-2012-all.html ** ** -- **Ian Thomas** Victoria Park, Western Australia -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills
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I don't get Apple design. How could the designers of OSX have come up with a dog like iOS? Mike On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.comwrote: VS2012 design could have been worse.. Apple could have designed it :) http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/780667831.jpg?1371031013 --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Ian Thomas il.tho...@iinet.net.auwrote: Greg, Greg – I put it down to the UIX guru / fiend that obviously exerted great influence over the PMs and higher-ups in Microsoft. I can’t stand Office 2013 – I appreciate some features, but find some of the behaviours and the UI itself just counter-productive (ie, anti my productivity). I don’t think I am resistant to change. I removed it, in favour of Office 2010 (incidentally, I never used Office2007 and took to the ribbon OK). There is another VS2012 hack that I omitted – NiceVS. It overlaps with one of the other hacks that I listed. NiceVS http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/a36021f0-770a-4258-854e-724e9d12b8a6 I hate to have to do these things. -- **Ian Thomas** Victoria Park, Western Australia ** ** ** ** *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Greg Keogh *Sent:* Saturday, June 15, 2013 9:30 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: VS2012 hacks ** ** Ian (et al), I have also taken a lot of steps recently to restore old colours and behaviour to recent Microsoft product releases. I don't normally do that. We all expect complaints when new versions of products are released, but in my experience the noise quickly drops away and people just accept the changes and run with them. However, the amount of stubborn resistance recently has been quite startling. Why is this happening? Microsoft is dragging us all along with it on some sort of global style change where there is less chrome, fewer borders, less saturated colour, fewer lines, etc. Now I can honestly understand this because the eye and brain work better with less clutter, but it all seems to have gone too far (remember the first preview of Visual Studio 2012 that looked like a charcoal etching?). Is there some department or research within Microsoft that is driving this trend? Do they explain their reasoning? Where did they recruit the drugged gibbons they put through the usability testing? And then there's Windows 8 ... Greg -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills
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VS2012 design could have been worse.. Apple could have designed it :) http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/780667831.jpg?1371031013 --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Ian Thomas il.tho...@iinet.net.au wrote: Greg, Greg – I put it down to the UIX guru / fiend that obviously exerted great influence over the PMs and higher-ups in Microsoft. I can’t stand Office 2013 – I appreciate some features, but find some of the behaviours and the UI itself just counter-productive (ie, anti my productivity). I don’t think I am resistant to change. I removed it, in favour of Office 2010 (incidentally, I never used Office2007 and took to the ribbon OK). There is another VS2012 hack that I omitted – NiceVS. It overlaps with one of the other hacks that I listed. NiceVS http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/a36021f0-770a-4258-854e-724e9d12b8a6 I hate to have to do these things. -- **Ian Thomas** Victoria Park, Western Australia ** ** ** ** *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Greg Keogh *Sent:* Saturday, June 15, 2013 9:30 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: VS2012 hacks ** ** Ian (et al), I have also taken a lot of steps recently to restore old colours and behaviour to recent Microsoft product releases. I don't normally do that. We all expect complaints when new versions of products are released, but in my experience the noise quickly drops away and people just accept the changes and run with them. However, the amount of stubborn resistance recently has been quite startling. Why is this happening? Microsoft is dragging us all along with it on some sort of global style change where there is less chrome, fewer borders, less saturated colour, fewer lines, etc. Now I can honestly understand this because the eye and brain work better with less clutter, but it all seems to have gone too far (remember the first preview of Visual Studio 2012 that looked like a charcoal etching?). Is there some department or research within Microsoft that is driving this trend? Do they explain their reasoning? Where did they recruit the drugged gibbons they put through the usability testing? And then there's Windows 8 ... Greg
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More Visual Studio Icon Patcher http://vsip.codeplex.com/ Visual Studio 2012 Color Theme Editor http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/366ad100-0003-4c9a-81a8-337d4e 7ace05 Visual Studio 2012 Color Theme Editor (Channel9 video) http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Visual-Studio-Toolbox/Visual-Studio-2012-Colo r-Theme-Editor VSCommands for Visual Studio 2012 http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/a83505c6-77b3-44a6-b53b-73d77c ba84c8 How To Prevent Visual Studio 2012 ALL CAPS Menus! http://www.richard-banks.org/2012/06/how-to-prevent-visual-studio-2012-all.h tml (it would be nice to be able revert Office2013 themes to something attractive - instead., I have reverted it totally to Office2010) _ Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ian Thomas Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 9:52 PM To: ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: VS2012 hacks I'm discovering some hints on getting VS2012 to look half-decent again - starting with getting rid of the ALL CAPS menu headings How To Prevent Visual Studio 2012 ALL CAPS Menus! http://www.richard-banks.org/2012/06/how-to-prevent-visual-studio-2012-all.h tml _ Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia
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Hi Greg, A number of other project templates aren't so great in VS either. Recently, they've released the BI tools for VS2012. In SSIS, the only difference between an enabled task and a disabled one is often how dark the name of the task is. That sort of thing is a big step backwards, particularly for anyone with visual limitations. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: http://www.sqldownunder.com/ www.sqldownunder.com From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Greg Keogh Sent: Saturday, 15 June 2013 11:30 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: VS2012 hacks Ian (et al), I have also taken a lot of steps recently to restore old colours and behaviour to recent Microsoft product releases. I don't normally do that. We all expect complaints when new versions of products are released, but in my experience the noise quickly drops away and people just accept the changes and run with them. However, the amount of stubborn resistance recently has been quite startling. Why is this happening? Microsoft is dragging us all along with it on some sort of global style change where there is less chrome, fewer borders, less saturated colour, fewer lines, etc. Now I can honestly understand this because the eye and brain work better with less clutter, but it all seems to have gone too far (remember the first preview of Visual Studio 2012 that looked like a charcoal etching?). Is there some department or research within Microsoft that is driving this trend? Do they explain their reasoning? Where did they recruit the drugged gibbons they put through the usability testing? And then there's Windows 8 ... Greg
RE: VS2012 hacks
Greg, Greg - I put it down to the UIX guru / fiend that obviously exerted great influence over the PMs and higher-ups in Microsoft. I can't stand Office 2013 - I appreciate some features, but find some of the behaviours and the UI itself just counter-productive (ie, anti my productivity). I don't think I am resistant to change. I removed it, in favour of Office 2010 (incidentally, I never used Office2007 and took to the ribbon OK). There is another VS2012 hack that I omitted - NiceVS. It overlaps with one of the other hacks that I listed. NiceVS http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/a36021f0-770a-4258-854e-724e9d 12b8a6 I hate to have to do these things. _ Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Greg Keogh Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 9:30 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: VS2012 hacks Ian (et al), I have also taken a lot of steps recently to restore old colours and behaviour to recent Microsoft product releases. I don't normally do that. We all expect complaints when new versions of products are released, but in my experience the noise quickly drops away and people just accept the changes and run with them. However, the amount of stubborn resistance recently has been quite startling. Why is this happening? Microsoft is dragging us all along with it on some sort of global style change where there is less chrome, fewer borders, less saturated colour, fewer lines, etc. Now I can honestly understand this because the eye and brain work better with less clutter, but it all seems to have gone too far (remember the first preview of Visual Studio 2012 that looked like a charcoal etching?). Is there some department or research within Microsoft that is driving this trend? Do they explain their reasoning? Where did they recruit the drugged gibbons they put through the usability testing? And then there's Windows 8 ... Greg
VS2012 hacks
I'm discovering some hints on getting VS2012 to look half-decent again - starting with getting rid of the ALL CAPS menu headings How To Prevent Visual Studio 2012 ALL CAPS Menus! http://www.richard-banks.org/2012/06/how-to-prevent-visual-studio-2012-all.h tml _ Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia
