Re: [ozmidwifery] VBAC - how soon is safe?
I have a great deal of difficulty understanding your abbreviations. What's NELUCSC? EDB? I understand EDB as epidural block, but why on earth would you be planning that? please explain rosalee [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/29/02 05:12PM Hi all, I am looking for info on how soon is safe after a NELUSCS to attempt a vbac. I have plenty of great pro vbac literature which I would normally support. But, this client's 1st baby was only 5 months old when the 2nd was conceived, making the EDB 14mnths after a neluscs for transverse lie/?cpd? /dilatation 4cms after 12hours of active labour. I'm sure I've read 18 mnths minimum for optimal scar healing but cannot find it in writing . Thanks, Laraine. PS, I loved the 3 Bears! !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN HTMLHEAD META content=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 http-equiv=Content-Type META content=MSHTML 5.00.2314.1000 name=GENERATOR/HEAD BODY style=FONT: 8pt MS Sans Serif; MARGIN-LEFT: 2px; MARGIN-TOP: 2px DIVFONT size=1I have a great deal of difficulty understanding your abbreviations./FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=1What's NELUCSC? EDB?/FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=1I understand EDB as epidural block, but why on earth would younbsp; be planning that?/FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=1please explain/FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=1rosalee/FONTBRBRgt;gt;gt; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/29/02 05:12PM gt;gt;gt; BRHi all, I am looking for info on how soon is safe after a NELUSCS to attempt a vbac. I have plenty of great pro vbac literature which I would normally support. But, this client's 1st baby was only 5 months old when the 2nd was conceived, making the EDB 14mnths after a neluscs for transverse lie/?cpd? /dilatation lt;4cms after 12hours of active labour. I'm sure I've read 18 mnths minimum for optimal scar healing but cannot find it in writing . Thanks, Laraine. PS, I loved the 3 Bears! BR/DIV/BODY/HTML This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of NSW Health.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Ante natal education NACE
The correct date would be the CAPERS web site sorry about the confusion Debbie Jeffs -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] VBAC - how soon is safe?
Hi I did a lit search and found one article out of 89. It is straight out of MIDIRS. You can have all 88 if you want them. Rosalee, language is a dangerous thing and your comment shows how things can be misconstrued. For me EDB means estimated date of birth cause I refuse to say estimated date of confinement or delivery! I don't think I've got an acronynm for epidura (peraps lots of them) Incidently nearly all 88 articles said that VBAC was Ok, rupture not common and if it did occur was less problematic than a spontaneous rupture. So much for evidence based care. Regards Carol Interdelivery interval and the success of vaginal birth after cesarean delivery (20020311-18) - Obstetrics and Gynecology , vol 99, no 1, January 2002, pp 41-44 Huang WH; Nakashima DK; Rumney PJ; and others OBJECTIVE: To determine whether a short interdelivery interval is associated with decreased rate of successful vaginal birth after cesarean (VBAC) . METHODS: A retrospective cohort study from January 1, 1997, to December 31, 2000, was conducted. Patients with previous cesarean delivery who attempted VBAC were identified. The analysis was limited to patients at term with one prior cesarean. The interdelivery interval was calculated in months between the index pregnancy and prior cesarean delivery. RESULTS: A total of 1516 subjects who attempted VBAC were identified among 24,162 deliveries, with complete data available in 1185 cases. The VBAC success rate was 79.0% for patients with an interdelivery interval less than 19 months compared with 85.5% for patients with an interval delivery greater than or equal to 19 months (P = .12). For patients whose labors were induced, interdelivery intervals of less than 19 months were associated with a decreased rate of VBAC success when compared with longer intervals (P .01). Sufficient power (beta = .95) existed to detect a 64% difference between the groups (alpha = .05). No significant difference was detected in women who underwent spontaneous labor (P = .98). There was no difference in the rate of symptomatic uterine rupture (P = 1.00). CONCLUSION: Interdelivery intervals of less than 19 months were associated with a decreased rate of VBAC success in patients who underwent induction, a difference not found in those with spontaneous labor. (12 references) (Author) -- ©2002 MIDIRS -- All rights reserved -- Carol Thorogood Visiting Midwifery Scholar School of Nursing and Midwifery Flinders University, Adelaide, 5001 Telephone: 08 8201 3924 Fax: 08 8201 3410
Re: [ozmidwifery] VBAC - how soon is safe?
EDB to me is estimated date of birth, and NELSCS is non-elective caesarean birth - Original Message - From: Rosalee Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] VBAC - how soon is safe? I have a great deal of difficulty understanding your abbreviations. What's NELUCSC? EDB? I understand EDB as epidural block, but why on earth would you be planning that? please explain rosalee [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/29/02 05:12PM Hi all, I am looking for info on how soon is safe after a NELUSCS to attempt a vbac. I have plenty of great pro vbac literature which I would normally support. But, this client's 1st baby was only 5 months old when the 2nd was conceived, making the EDB 14mnths after a neluscs for transverse lie/?cpd? /dilatation 4cms after 12hours of active labour. I'm sure I've read 18 mnths minimum for optimal scar healing but cannot find it in writing . Thanks, Laraine. PS, I loved the 3 Bears! -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] VBAC - how soon is safe?
Hi Carol - I would LOVE all 88! Good to see you are out there! - Original Message - From: Carol Thorogood To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 6:01 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] VBAC - how soon is safe? HiI did a lit search and found one article out of 89. It is straight out of MIDIRS. You can have all 88 if you want them.Rosalee, language is a dangerous thing and your comment shows how things can be misconstrued. For me EDB means estimated date of birth cause I refuse to say estimated date of confinement or delivery! I don't think I've got an acronynm for epidura (peraps lots of them) Incidently nearly all 88 articles said that VBAC was Ok, rupture not common and if it did occur was less problematic than a spontaneous rupture. So much for evidence based care.RegardsCarolInterdelivery interval and the success of vaginal birth after cesarean delivery (20020311-18) - Obstetrics and Gynecology , vol 99, no 1, January 2002, pp 41-44 Huang WH; Nakashima DK; Rumney PJ; and others OBJECTIVE: To determine whether a short interdelivery interval is associated with decreased rate of successful vaginal birth after cesarean (VBAC) . METHODS: A retrospective cohort study from January 1, 1997, to December 31, 2000, was conducted. Patients with previous cesarean delivery who attempted VBAC were identified. The analysis was limited to patients at term with one prior cesarean. The interdelivery interval was calculated in months between the index pregnancy and prior cesarean delivery. RESULTS: A total of 1516 subjects who attempted VBAC were identified among 24,162 deliveries, with complete data available in 1185 cases. The VBAC success rate was 79.0% for patients with an interdelivery interval less than 19 months compared with 85.5% for patients with an interval delivery greater than or equal to 19 months (P = .12). For patients whose labors were induced, interdelivery intervals of less than 19 months were associated with a decreased rate of VBAC success when compared with longer intervals (P .01). Sufficient power (beta = .95) existed to detect a 64% difference between the groups (alpha = .05). No significant difference was detected in women who underwent spontaneous labor (P = .98). There was no difference in the rate of symptomatic uterine rupture (P = 1.00). CONCLUSION: Interdelivery intervals of less than 19 months were associated with a decreased rate of VBAC success in patients who underwent induction, a difference not found in those with spontaneous labor. (12 references) (Author) -- ©2002 MIDIRS -- All rights reserved -- Carol ThorogoodVisiting Midwifery ScholarSchool of Nursing and MidwiferyFlinders University, Adelaide, 5001Telephone: 08 8201 3924Fax: 08 8201 3410
Re: [ozmidwifery] VBAC - how soon is safe?
HI Rosalie, i would think that it stands for non elective lower uterine segment caesarean section. Anyway i just really answered that to say hi to you. I sit in the wings of this list since I've been on maternity leave and keep myself up to date and sometimes thoroughly entertained. Hope your keeping well hope to hear from you soon or maybe catch up. Oh, by the way Rachael is now 14 mths old and the love of our lives. Stay well and happy Melinda - Original Message - From: Rosalee Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] VBAC - how soon is safe? I have a great deal of difficulty understanding your abbreviations. What's NELUCSC? EDB? I understand EDB as epidural block, but why on earth would you be planning that? please explain rosalee [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/29/02 05:12PM Hi all, I am looking for info on how soon is safe after a NELUSCS to attempt a vbac. I have plenty of great pro vbac literature which I would normally support. But, this client's 1st baby was only 5 months old when the 2nd was conceived, making the EDB 14mnths after a neluscs for transverse lie/?cpd? /dilatation 4cms after 12hours of active labour. I'm sure I've read 18 mnths minimum for optimal scar healing but cannot find it in writing . Thanks, Laraine. PS, I loved the 3 Bears! -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] research on midwifery
Hi Everyone, I am studying midwifery and I am required to do a workable research proposal that is midwifery based. As I am studying part time I have not as yet had any clinical practice, therefore I am unaware of relevant issuesneeding research. I would be grateful if anyone can help with ideas. Thanks Eileen
Re: [ozmidwifery]treatment for varicose veins?
I have a client who is currently pregnant with her third baby, week 20, and suffers from varicose veins on her legs and vagina. She is wearing good elastic stockings, puts them on while still in bed in the morning, however her situation is getting worse- throbing pain, etc. Does anyone know of any good alternative/homeopatic remedies that have shown to work? Thanks, Debby
Re: [ozmidwifery] VBAC - how soon is safe?
. What's NELUCSC? Non-elective Lower Uterine Caesarean Section EDB? Expected date of birth Cheers, mary M -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] research on midwifery
I had to do the same thing last year for my midwifery course ... my topic was something to do with perineal trauma... "how does maternal birthing position affect perineal outcome" or something like that. Others could include breastfeeding in the first hour of birth, does it improve infant feeding/bonding (whatever you want to say), um something to do with how support people affect the birth experience for the mother... episiotomy, induction there is all sorts of possibilities! Am I right in guessing that you don't actually have to DO the research, but just form a proposal? GOOD LUCK! Where are you studying? Jo - Original Message - From: glenn hulston To: ozmid Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 9:12 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] research on midwifery Hi Everyone, I am studying midwifery and I am required to do a workable research proposal that is midwifery based. As I am studying part time I have not as yet had any clinical practice, therefore I am unaware of relevant issuesneeding research. I would be grateful if anyone can help with ideas. Thanks Eileen
[ozmidwifery] Hospital-speak for C.S.
To be REALLY pedantic - the abbreviationcommonly used in "hospital-speak" is NELUSCS = Non elective lower uterine segment caesarean section. The other one is ELUSCS - standing for ELECTIVE lower uterine segment caesarean section. The "E" before LUSCScan be mistaken for "emergency" LUSCS, but "NE" (indicating non-elective) is usually used. Cheers, Lois Lois WattisRegistered Midwifewww.birthjourney.com BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Wattis;Lois FN:Lois Wattis EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REV:20020729T132358Z END:VCARD
[ozmidwifery] FW: Hypnobirthing Seminar Registration Form
Hi all I was really interested in the hypnobithing stuff and contacted the organisation about a practitioner in Adelaide, no one practicing here, but he sent me this. Maybe it is of use to someone out there. Cheers Megan -Original Message- From: Peter Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 29 July 2002 9:35 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Hypnobirthing Seminar Registration Form Dear Megan There are no Hypnobirthing Practitioners in Adelaide at this present time. But I am holding a seminar for practitioners in October here in Bowral. You might be interested in passing on this information to your birth consumer group in the off chance that someone will be interested in doing the training. Regards Peter Jackson Registration form Oct 2002.rtf Description: Binary data
Re: [ozmidwifery] FW: Hypnobirthing Seminar Registration Form
On 29/7/02 11:32 PM, Larry Megan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all I was really interested in the hypnobithing stuff and contacted the organisation about a practitioner in Adelaide, no one practicing here, but he sent me this. Maybe it is of use to someone out there. Cheers Megan -Original Message- From: Peter Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 29 July 2002 9:35 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Hypnobirthing Seminar Registration Form Dear Megan There are no Hypnobirthing Practitioners in Adelaide at this present time. But I am holding a seminar for practitioners in October here in Bowral. You might be interested in passing on this information to your birth consumer group in the off chance that someone will be interested in doing the training. Regards Peter Jackson Thanks Megan I'll put it in our ASIM Communique. Will let the list know how it goes if we get someone to attend. Jan Robinson -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] research on midwifery
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] research on midwifery On 29/7/02 9:12 PM, glenn hulston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, I am studying midwifery and I am required to do a workable research proposal that is midwifery based. As I am studying part time I have not as yet had any clinical practice, therefore I am unaware of relevant issues needing research. I would be grateful if anyone can help with ideas. Thanks Eileen Dear Eileen Where about are you? I need to know the city you live in. Pehaps one of the IPMs would be able to offer you some support? There are a lot of issues surrounding homebirth practice that need to be addressed. Jan Robinson __ Jan Robinson Phone/fax: 011+ 61+ 2+ 9546 4350 Independent Midwife Practitioner e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8 Robin Crescent www: midwiferyeducation.com.au South Hurstville NSW 2221 National Coordinator, ASIM __
[ozmidwifery] Review of Maternity Unit
Dear List Am keen to hear from anyone who has been through an external review of their maternity unit. Am looking for tips on the best way to deal with this and use it as an opportunity to get conerns across, as midwives. Feel free to email me offlist at [EMAIL PROTECTED] lisa g
[ozmidwifery] Re: midwifery history
Hi everyone, Does anyone have a few good references out there on the history of obstetrics and midwifery within Australia? I would greatly appreciate any help on this matter. Kindest regards Alphia Alphia Garrety (Ba. Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Sociology and Justice Studies Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] VBAC - how soon is safe?
hi melinda, what are you doing sitting on the wings? anyway, not like you to have nothing to say? your contribution would be so special given your midwifery experience and now motherhood. regards R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/29/02 08:32PM HI Rosalie, i would think that it stands for non elective lower uterine segment caesarean section. Anyway i just really answered that to say hi to you. I sit in the wings of this list since I've been on maternity leave and keep myself up to date and sometimes thoroughly entertained. Hope your keeping well hope to hear from you soon or maybe catch up. Oh, by the way Rachael is now 14 mths old and the love of our lives. Stay well and happy Melinda - Original Message - From: Rosalee Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] VBAC - how soon is safe? I have a great deal of difficulty understanding your abbreviations. What's NELUCSC? EDB? I understand EDB as epidural block, but why on earth would you be planning that? please explain rosalee [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/29/02 05:12PM Hi all, I am looking for info on how soon is safe after a NELUSCS to attempt a vbac. I have plenty of great pro vbac literature which I would normally support. But, this client's 1st baby was only 5 months old when the 2nd was conceived, making the EDB 14mnths after a neluscs for transverse lie/?cpd? /dilatation 4cms after 12hours of active labour. I'm sure I've read 18 mnths minimum for optimal scar healing but cannot find it in writing . Thanks, Laraine. PS, I loved the 3 Bears! -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN HTMLHEAD META content=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 http-equiv=Content-Type META content=MSHTML 5.00.2314.1000 name=GENERATOR/HEAD BODY style=FONT: 8pt MS Sans Serif; MARGIN-LEFT: 2px; MARGIN-TOP: 2px DIVFONT size=1hi melinda,/FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=1what are you doing sitting on the wings? FONT size=1anyway, not like you to have nothing to say?/FONT/FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=1your contribution would be so special given your midwifery experience and now motherhood./FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=1regards/FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=1R./FONT/DIV DIVBRBRgt;gt;gt; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/29/02 08:32PM gt;gt;gt; BRHI Rosalie, BRi would think that it stands for non elective lower uterine segment BRcaesarean section. Anyway i just really answered that to say hi to you. I BRsit in the wings of this list since I've been on maternity leave and keep BRmyself up to date and sometimes thoroughly entertained. Hope your keeping BRwell hope to hear from you soon or maybe catch up. Oh, by the way Rachael is BRnow 14 mths old and the love of our lives. BRStay well and happy BRMelinda BR- Original Message - BRFrom: Rosalee Shaw lt;U A href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A/U gt; BRTo: lt;U A href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A/U gt; BRSent: Monday, July 29, 2002 5:16 PM BRSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] VBAC - how soon is safe? BRBRBRI have a great deal of difficulty understanding your abbreviations. BRWhat's NELUCSC? EDB? BRI understand EDB as epidural block, but why on earth would you be planning BRthat? BRplease explain BRrosalee BRBRgt;gt;gt; UA href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A/U 07/29/02 05:12PM gt;gt;gt; BRHi all, I am looking for info on how soon is safe after a NELUSCS to attempt BRa vbac. I have plenty of great pro vbac literature which I would normally BRsupport. But, this client's 1st baby was only 5 months old when the 2nd was BRconceived, making the EDB 14mnths after a neluscs for transverse lie/?cpd? BR/dilatation lt;4cms after 12hours of active labour. I'm sure I've read 18 BRmnths minimum for optimal scar healing but cannot find it in writing . BRThanks, Laraine. PS, I loved the 3 Bears! BRBRBRBR-- BRThis mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. BRVisit lt;U A href=http://www.acegraphics.com.au;http://www.acegraphics.com.au/A/U gt; to subscribe or unsubscribe. BR/DIV/BODY/HTML This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of NSW Health.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Review of Maternity Unit
We had a review of all the maternity units in our HS as part of a maternity services review and subsequent design of a maternity services plan - yet to be implemented I might add. We had an independent review team - 1 midwife, 1 Ob/Gyn, 1 GP Ob/Gyn 1 consumer rep. Amazing results by the way all supporting increased involvement of midwives. Happy to share more info. if you want it. Liz McCall - Original Message - From: ljg To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 8:31 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Review of Maternity Unit Dear List Am keen to hear from anyone who has been through an external review of their maternity unit. Am looking for tips on the best way to deal with this and use it as an opportunity to get conerns across, as midwives. Feel free to email me offlist at [EMAIL PROTECTED] lisa g
RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: midwifery history
Hi A book that always stuck in my mind was called 'Medical Dominance' - the author was Willis (sorry I can't find a full reference). There was a chapter on midwifery and the process of medical dominance from settlement in Australia. The book is out of print - but you should be able to get a copy in a library. Cheers Jane Pregnancy, Birth and Beyond Caring, Professional Midwifery Services Sydney Visit http://www.pregnancy.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alphia Garrety Sent: Tuesday, 30 July 2002 8:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: midwifery history Hi everyone, Does anyone have a few good references out there on the history of obstetrics and midwifery within Australia? I would greatly appreciate any help on this matter. Kindest regards Alphia Alphia Garrety (Ba. Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Sociology and Justice Studies Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: midwifery history
Hi ALphia - I am just embarking on historical things, so if you let me know some specifics, I can feep you in mind in my searches - regards, Lynne - Original Message - From: Alphia Garrety [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 8:42 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: midwifery history Hi everyone, Does anyone have a few good references out there on the history of obstetrics and midwifery within Australia? I would greatly appreciate any help on this matter. Kindest regards Alphia Alphia Garrety (Ba. Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Sociology and Justice Studies Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: midwifery history
Thanks Jane, Have that one- picked it up in a great second hand book store- I agree with you - I love the way that Evan has analysed the subordination of midwifery within Australia- highlighting the specific history of Australian midwifery rather than lumping it together with England and America. Thanks Take care Alphia At 09:09 AM 30/07/02 +1000, you wrote: Hi A book that always stuck in my mind was called 'Medical Dominance' - the author was Willis (sorry I can't find a full reference). There was a chapter on midwifery and the process of medical dominance from settlement in Australia. The book is out of print - but you should be able to get a copy in a library. Cheers Jane Pregnancy, Birth and Beyond Caring, Professional Midwifery Services Sydney Visit http://www.pregnancy.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alphia Garrety Sent: Tuesday, 30 July 2002 8:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: midwifery history Hi everyone, Does anyone have a few good references out there on the history of obstetrics and midwifery within Australia? I would greatly appreciate any help on this matter. Kindest regards Alphia Alphia Garrety (Ba. Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Sociology and Justice Studies Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: midwifery history
Hi Lynne, Thank you so much for your offer of assistance. Basically I am just looking at the historical development of midwifery and obstetrics within Australia- of course I am interested in Australia nationally speaking, but if there is some interesting info on NSW. I am doing the research as well- so if I find anything of interest I will pass it on to you. Take care Alphia At 09:19 AM 30/07/02 +1000, you wrote: Hi ALphia - I am just embarking on historical things, so if you let me know some specifics, I can feep you in mind in my searches - regards, Lynne - Original Message - From: Alphia Garrety [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 8:42 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: midwifery history Hi everyone, Does anyone have a few good references out there on the history of obstetrics and midwifery within Australia? I would greatly appreciate any help on this matter. Kindest regards Alphia Alphia Garrety (Ba. Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Sociology and Justice Studies Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: midwifery history
You could contact Marie Barton too (Brisbane). She wrote a paper on the history of midwifery in Australia. If you are interested I could give her your details. - Original Message - From: Alphia Garrety [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: midwifery history Hi Lynne, Thank you so much for your offer of assistance. Basically I am just looking at the historical development of midwifery and obstetrics within Australia- of course I am interested in Australia nationally speaking, but if there is some interesting info on NSW. I am doing the research as well- so if I find anything of interest I will pass it on to you. Take care Alphia At 09:19 AM 30/07/02 +1000, you wrote: Hi ALphia - I am just embarking on historical things, so if you let me know some specifics, I can feep you in mind in my searches - regards, Lynne - Original Message - From: Alphia Garrety [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 8:42 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: midwifery history Hi everyone, Does anyone have a few good references out there on the history of obstetrics and midwifery within Australia? I would greatly appreciate any help on this matter. Kindest regards Alphia Alphia Garrety (Ba. Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Sociology and Justice Studies Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] Re:VBAC
Sorry to cause confusion with my abbreviations! Neluscs is non elective lower uterine segment Caesarean section (commonly referred to as the 'emergency Caesar. EDB is estimated date of birth as. like many others I don't like the est date of delivery. Relax Carol, our program's protocols states VBAC's are booked hospital births with mw support, and yes, you did teach me very well. Thanks for the reference. The other concern now is that the ultrasound ordered by the Dr has come back with nuchal fold translucency anomalies ... so regardless of stats, this pregnancy will now be managed by an obstetrician at the Drs and client's request and I can totally agree with their decision based on the current evidence. Thanks, Laraine
[ozmidwifery] Hepatitis B vaccination
I know that vaccination is an emotive issue, and usually I keep my own convictions quiet, but has anyone been refused employment because they are not vaccinated? I have been working in nursing now for ten years, four of those in the field of midwifery and I have never had a problem with my personal decision, carried on from that of my parents when I was a child, not to be vaccinated but to use natural methods of protecting my immune system. However, there was a big scare (a healthcare worker was diagnosed with Hepatitis B and they recalled all the mothers and babies that had been in contact with the individual for testing) at a public hospital where I wish to seek casual employment. Hepatitis B vaccination is a now not just a recommendation but a condition of employment, I am still making enquiries re conscientious objection, but wondered if anyone had any experiences in this area.
Re: [ozmidwifery]treatment for varicose veins?
Debby, I am pregnant with my 4th child, varicose veins appeared around 15 weeks, same scenario, incredible vaginal and leg pain, burning etc, fixed brilliantly with JOBSTmedical graduated pressure stockings, I wear thigh length with medium pressure 15-20 mmHg, and can't stand for more than 1 minute without them before feeling the pain and throbbing begin. Your client should be able to purchase or order them from any chemist. She will need to be measured for correct fit. They are unobtrusive as they look like normal stockings, even in the tropics they are comfortable to wear, I think because they are only thigh length, you can get knee length and abdominal length also, but she might find the abdominal one too constrictive on the tummy. Some health funds will refundthe cost as they are medical stockings, average price of each pair is $65-75 a pair, which is expensive but given the instant relief is worth it. I've been wearing mine for 20 weeks and they are still going strong with carefulpulling on and off, and washing to avoid holes. It is a bit of a palava to get my leg up high enough to put them on around the tummy but I figure it is good abdominal strengthening exercise! Hope this helps, Belinda Brustolin, Darwin. - Original Message - From: Debby Gedal-Beer To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:11 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery]treatment for varicose veins? I have a client who is currently pregnant with her third baby, week 20, and suffers from varicose veins on her legs and vagina. She is wearing good elastic stockings, puts them on while still in bed in the morning, however her situation is getting worse- throbing pain, etc. Does anyone know of any good alternative/homeopatic remedies that have shown to work? Thanks, Debby
Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: midwifery history
Thanks Lynne that would be great- If you could give her my details- (at the bottom of the email) I would greatly appreciate it. See if she is interested and then I can call her/email her. Appreciate the help everyone. Take care Alphia Alphia Garrety (Ba. Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Sociology and Justice Studies Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: midwifery history
In a message dated 30/07/02 8:43:56 AM AUS Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi everyone, Does anyone have a few good references out there on the history of obstetrics and midwifery within Australia? I would greatly appreciate any help on this matter. Kindest regards Alphia Hi Alphia another point of reference you may like to try is Kerreen Reiger's book.'Our bodies , Our babies - The forgotten women's movement' 2001, Melbourne University Press. Fantastic book contexulising the political struggle inherent in the Australian maternity services landscape. Good luck Yours in birth, Tina Pettigrew Birthworks Bachelor of Midwifery Student and Independent CBE Convenor, Aust B. Mid Student Collective. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BMidStudentCollective [EMAIL PROTECTED] " As we trust the flowers to open to new life - So we can trust birth" Harriette Hartigan. ---
Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: midwifery history
Thank you everyone who has led me on some great paths of research- I really appreciate it! Take care everyone Alphia Alphia Garrety (Ba. Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Sociology and Justice Studies Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Review of Maternity Unit
Liz Would love to hear more -our unit is being independently reviewed by a midwife and obs (love the consumer thing!) and is being done because of some downfalls in clinical indicators and an increase in client complaints. As midwives, we are viewing this as very positive becauseour unit has become more and more medically oriented much to the disillusionment of the midwifery staff. So we see this as an avenue for change ! We are told that we will be able to meet with the reviewers individually or as groups and that they will be looking at all aspects of maternity care. Which state are you in Liz, couldn't possibly be Qld, couldn't imagine our big wigs supporting consumer involvement (!) How did the midwives in your unit go about informing the reviewers of there views ? Would love to hear all about it, we need all the help we can get to make this work for our unit lisa - Original Message - From: Ms Elizabeth McCall To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 9:11 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Review of Maternity Unit We had a review of all the maternity units in our HS as part of a maternity services review and subsequent design of a maternity services plan - yet to be implemented I might add. We had an independent review team - 1 midwife, 1 Ob/Gyn, 1 GP Ob/Gyn 1 consumer rep. Amazing results by the way all supporting increased involvement of midwives. Happy to share more info. if you want it. Liz McCall - Original Message - From: ljg To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 8:31 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Review of Maternity Unit Dear List Am keen to hear from anyone who has been through an external review of their maternity unit. Am looking for tips on the best way to deal with this and use it as an opportunity to get conerns across, as midwives. Feel free to email me offlist at [EMAIL PROTECTED] lisa g
Re: [ozmidwifery] Review of Maternity Unit
Further to add to the review stuff - management are also attempting to delete our CNC position in Birthing suite, which will give us basically one manager for BS, the ward area and ANC. Anyone else experienced this? lisa
Re: [ozmidwifery] Review of Maternity Unit
How big is your unit, Lisa? Seems to be the trend to downsize, doesn't it? - Original Message - From: ljg To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Review of Maternity Unit Further to add to the review stuff - management are also attempting to delete our CNC position in Birthing suite, which will give us basically one manager for BS, the ward area and ANC. Anyone else experienced this? lisa
