[ozmidwifery] gallbladder
I am going in tomorrow to have my gallbladder out. It seems to have gone so fast. I have spoken to the dr and the anaesthetist about not over dosing me on painkillers etc so that I may come home tomorrow night and they have been very good about it. So it may only be a day stay if all goes well otherwise I will be staying overnight. I guess I will be sore for a few days but have been assur4ed that keyhole surgury is not that bad if all goes well. Will let you know how I go later. Thanks to all those who offered advise. Rhonda PS: having a fat free diet since Christmas has been gr4eat - now almost 10kgs latter i have made some really nice low fat meals and feel great! So somethiong good has come out of this after all. i am sure the weight loss has been helped by the "fear" factor - if I eat it it may hurt! so I will go without. LOL No cheating on this diet, best diet I have ever been on. *grin* Not that i would recommend gallstones to anyone. I did test myself and had a few bites of my son's home made hamburger (not high fat really) Spent a few hours in pain and decided that I would not do that again. So I guess it is not going to settle down without surgery. IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
Re: [ozmidwifery] Overdue Babies,
HOW WONDERFUL!!! HOW INSPIRING FOR OTHERS!!! I do hope you got to blow big raspberries at those who were bullying!!! Rhonda. ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:03:52 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] Overdue Babies, For those who encouraged me along the jouney. The babies who were overdue waited patiently.. while their mothers waited impatiently until Feb arrived before their arrival. One due the 8th of jan was born the 1st of Feb (24 days over) looking a little overcooked and weighed in at 3.6kg despite the late scan saying 4.1kg.. the other due the 11th of Jan arrived on the 2nd of Feb (22 days) looking not a minute overdue despite mothers dates and scan dates matching around 16 weeks! Both these women resisted pressure (and bulling) from the obs involved and from family and friends to trust themselves and their babies. I am so inspired by them both. Sally Westbury Homebirth Midwife "You are a midwife, assisting at someone else's birth. Do good without show or fuss. Facilitate what is happening rather than what you think ought to be happening. If you must take the lead, lead so that the mother is helped, yet still free and in charge. When the baby is born, the mother will rightly say: "We did it ourselves!" from The Tao Te Ching IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
[ozmidwifery] Thrush in the breasts
Dear Joy List, I have had a lot of success using Pau D'arco for thrush - it's a herbal remedy available in lots of pharmacies. Jacky
RE: [ozmidwifery] gallbladder
Good luck Rhonda darling. Sally Westbury Homebirth Midwife You are a midwife, assisting at someone else's birth. Do good without show or fuss. Facilitate what is happening rather than what you think ought to be happening. If you must take the lead, lead so that the mother is helped, yet still free and in charge. When the baby is born, the mother will rightly say: We did it ourselves! from The Tao Te Ching
Re: [ozmidwifery] LSCS attrocity
Hey Marijke, please drop by and get the info I have on ACTOBAC copied. 26 Elizabeth st Nairne (off Woodside Rd) There is a CARES meeting next week Wed; at my house you are welcome to attend. I am actually coming into the MtB hospital this week to put up a poster; will you be there tomorrow?? Jo Bainbridgefounding member CARES SAwww.cares-sa.org.au[EMAIL PROTECTED]phone: 08 8388 6918birth with trust, faith love... - Original Message - From: Marijke Eastaugh To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 6:20 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] LSCS attrocity A happy new year to you all and Jo I hear you. Have been on "holidays for three weeks and had our first AMALG meeting for the year. 2003 promises to be a "biggy" Jo Bainbridge please let me look at what you have been given thus far. i am absolutely appalled at this study, how has it got past ethics who (what ) was paid and where .I smell a fat stinky rat and I'm not happy. I go back to work Monday and sometime this week can come around to pick up photocopy what you have. my thoughts at present are that this needs press, bad scary press, I agree with others that women need warning. I'll be in touch. BIG HUG TO YOU ALL ON THE LIST. x x Marijke.
[ozmidwifery] ACTOBAC trial
Yes Julie this has been sent to Jackie and she and I are working with a number of others to get things happening (or not happening as the case may be). I know the press is a mighty tool but don't feel it is appropriate YET. I am just very cautious about how the press can manipulate. All we need is for them to end a story with a doctor in a white coat saying something like "if we don't do this type of research babies will die" or some other type of crap like that! I am urging EVERYONE to write their opinions of how destructive a trial of this type is; how detrimental to women it is and how unnecessary it is. If you could send them to me I|I will put them with my letter of concern being submitted to the ethics committees involved. cheers Jo Bainbridgefounding member CARES SAwww.cares-sa.org.au[EMAIL PROTECTED]phone: 08 8388 6918birth with trust, faith love... - Original Message - From: Julie Clarke To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 4:04 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] I am back! Did ya miss me? Dear Jo This is tragic for the women who will undergo a repeat c.section unnecessarily how cruel. Have you passed this info on to Jackie Mawson as well? I urge you to pass this info on to the press. hug Julie Clarke Childbirth and Parenting Educator Transition into Parenthood 9 Withybrook Pl Sylvania NSW 2224 T. (02) 9544 6441 F (02) 9544 9257 M. 0401 265 530 email [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jo Dean BainbridgeSent: Monday, 3 February 2003 9:48 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ozmidwifery] I am back! Did ya miss me? Hi everyone, I am back with a newly polished soap box and a major thing to be yelling about! I am going to jump straight into it with the stress that I am not going to stay on the list for long (a few weeks perhaps) so you may have to contact me off list for further details. Okay, everyone sitting down??? Guess who is doing an Australian/New Zealand multi-centred study called ACTOBAC A Controlled Trial Of Birth After Caesarean which (wait for it) is a randomised controlled trial involving 2000 women. The study is being conducted by Professor Caroline Crowther. It involves women with one previous cs and they will be randomised at 34 weeks. Those who are designated the vbac option will have mandatory continuous monitoring and all the other woman unfriendly policies imposed on vbacs, inductions or augmentationswill not be excluded.Theunfortunate women who are allocated to the cs group, if they (inconveniently) go into spontaneous labour theywill be given an emergency cs. How do I know all this?? CARES was contacted after Crowther read my article in Birth Perinatal Issues Journal (Sept 2002) and asked us to make some comments on the trialwe made comments alright!5 pages worth for starters. The issues and criticisms are many and varied. the language used is appalling, the information biased and the methodology dubious. An then there is the little issue of it being completely unethical!we got a reply after almost three months with a "thanks for your feed back. We are proud to announce the trial has been approved for funding". this is an unacceptable and insulting response to say the least. we have had no further comment from them. So how annoyed are you so far?? it gets better. As this is a long posting as it is, (typical for me huh?) If you want to know more please let me know. To end this email I will give you the first paragraph from the information pamphlet provided to us by the research team in November: "For someone like yourself who has had a previous caesarean section a decision needs to be made as to whether your baby is best born by allowing a vaginal birth or whether a repeat caesarean section should be undertaken" and it gets so much better hope to hear from interested parties as soon as possible as I am writing to the ethics committees and need as much weight to support our objections. (ACMI National level would be appreciated if you are listening!) Remember that this is going to recruiting women from every major women's children's hospital in every capital city around this country. cheers for now Jo Bainbridgefounding member CARES SAwww.cares-sa.org.au[EMAIL PROTECTED]phone: 08 8388 6918birth with trust, faith love...
Re: [ozmidwifery] End of Caseload at The Angliss
Hi Dawn, This is really bad news. It's amazing what excuses they come up with to stop something successful in it's tracks, bit like the tall poppy syndrome. Midwifery at Monash is going through difficulties as well as the powers that be want to cut our maternity beds from 47 to 32, without capping our bookings of course. That also means shedding approx 22 EFT!! Who said there is a shortage of midwives? WE do do team midwifery at Clayton, but it doesn't really work very well, the team midwives find themselves working mainly in delivery suite to cope with lack of num,bers(!) so the women really don't get the continuity of carer that this model of care is supposed to create. Hope you manage to find something that works Sally - Original Message - From: Dawn Worgan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 11:45 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] End of Caseload at The Angliss With frustration and disapointment I write to tell you our wonderful case load model is to end at the end of september when our current clients have had their babies.It will have been going for 5 years by then and this sad outcome was not unexpected.The rationalle is to be able to offer somthing like caseload (which no one desputes is the best model) in a diluted form to all women instead of the elite few!! but nothing in the way of a new model is yet proposed negotiations between hospital, Doctors and Midwives are yet to begin, and a team aproach is whats being put forward, Hence my long winded email, can those of you in teams please let me know the good and bad points you have found so that I can be informed and pass comments on to those who need to know when setting up a new team modelof care.Thankyou Dawn
RE: [ozmidwifery] J K Rowling
Anybody know of an obs. Micheal Humphrey?? From Cairns?? Sally Westbury Homebirth Midwife You are a midwife, assisting at someone else's birth. Do good without show or fuss. Facilitate what is happening rather than what you think ought to be happening. If you must take the lead, lead so that the mother is helped, yet still free and in charge. When the baby is born, the mother will rightly say: We did it ourselves! from The Tao Te Ching -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] Re: Reasons to avoid a natural birth
Lesia, Yes you are right I wasn't commenting on Claudia paying for her birth in the UK. You made a comment about supporting all choice and you then replied to say you include my choice as well. This is great, but I don't have it! I understand that we must not vent our frustrations on women that choose medicalised birth (I just feel sorry for them and their bub, btw did you see that poor bub being pulled from its Mother in the US on Discovery Channel last night, it nearly made me vomit, and then the health worker say how great she felt being around birth! Sad stuff, this wasn't birth, this was production line abuse!) What makes me so mad is that international best practice care is so much cheaper but I still can't access it!!! Yes we all know why power and control etc. I vote (as do many others) for the NZ 'birth payment' to allow women to truly decide. Then I couldn't care less who has a elec c/s or births from their toe!!! What will then happen is what happens in NZ, women will flock to midwife care (differing birth locations but midwife care) because even as MC an others continue to elevate the midwife, she is largely invisible, women out their have no idea they could have 1 to 1 care and form a relationship with I carer! Sadly some midwives think the same, and brand our work as promoting Rolls Royce care. To put the record straight, you bet it's Rolls Royce Care but it's achievable on a Holden Budget. Justine Caines -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] J K Rowling
I never met the man, but I have read parts of his obstetric text book, it should be available, one of the smalest ob texts I've ever seen, it should give you a taste. marilyn - Original Message - From: Sally Westbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 3:11 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] J K Rowling Anybody know of an obs. Micheal Humphrey?? From Cairns?? Sally Westbury Homebirth Midwife You are a midwife, assisting at someone else's birth. Do good without show or fuss. Facilitate what is happening rather than what you think ought to be happening. If you must take the lead, lead so that the mother is helped, yet still free and in charge. When the baby is born, the mother will rightly say: We did it ourselves! from The Tao Te Ching -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Reasons to avoid a natural birth
Justine: I think the problem is the managers and accountants don't believe it is achievable on a holden budget. I think perhaps it is due to us not reducing women to widgets (which I think is commendable). Somehow we have to break through the economic wall of silence. I think since NZ is doing it, then the maternity budget of a health service area there needs to be studied and compared with a similar health service area here perhaps, I don't know. Having once been married to an accountant/economist (micro-economist) I do remember you have to be talking about the same thing when arguing with them and also it is very easy to be accused of comparing apples and oranges and that will be that. marilyn - Original Message - From: Justine Caines [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: OzMid List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 3:35 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: Reasons to avoid a natural birth Lesia, Yes you are right I wasn't commenting on Claudia paying for her birth in the UK. You made a comment about supporting all choice and you then replied to say you include my choice as well. This is great, but I don't have it! I understand that we must not vent our frustrations on women that choose medicalised birth (I just feel sorry for them and their bub, btw did you see that poor bub being pulled from its Mother in the US on Discovery Channel last night, it nearly made me vomit, and then the health worker say how great she felt being around birth! Sad stuff, this wasn't birth, this was production line abuse!) What makes me so mad is that international best practice care is so much cheaper but I still can't access it!!! Yes we all know why power and control etc. I vote (as do many others) for the NZ 'birth payment' to allow women to truly decide. Then I couldn't care less who has a elec c/s or births from their toe!!! What will then happen is what happens in NZ, women will flock to midwife care (differing birth locations but midwife care) because even as MC an others continue to elevate the midwife, she is largely invisible, women out their have no idea they could have 1 to 1 care and form a relationship with I carer! Sadly some midwives think the same, and brand our work as promoting Rolls Royce care. To put the record straight, you bet it's Rolls Royce Care but it's achievable on a Holden Budget. Justine Caines -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Caul
Wow Julie! Do you have a photo of it, by any chance? I'd love to see! Jo :)
[ozmidwifery] Aussie Poll on war
Hi sorry this isnt about midwifery -but it does affect women and kids if you are interested... Pinky Subject: A.B.C. Poll on war with Iraq DEAR EVERYONEPLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO VOTE ON THIS. IF ANYBODY CAN MAKEA DIFFERENCE TO THOSE THAT DO MAKE THE FINAL DECISION, IT IS THE MEDIA.This is an ABC Poll, 2000 votes isn't going to move John Howard much but amillion votes will. Please take a second to complete this pass it ontoyour friends with a real urgency. Please, there is not a lot we can do,butthis is something we can do that will make a difference ifenough people yell loud enough!Cast your vote and check out the results to date.The question:Do you believe there is a case for war against Iraq?http://www.abc.net.au/news/poll1/vote/http://www.abc.net.au/news/poll1/vote/
[ozmidwifery] RE: rolls royce care on a holden budget
Now Justine you are really appealing to the boys on the list, now you are talking cars, but on a more serious note, you are dead right, NMAP is achievable for this country and as I was told at one australian college of midwives meeting that those who are not in tune with us in moving forwards then will basically be dragged along with us as we get NMAP implemented across the country, yours in midwifery pete malavisi -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Overdue Babies,
Sally This is wonderful and such an inspiration. It would be wonderful if these women shared their birth stories with others who go overdue. Congratulations on obviously giving them the support to wait and trust. Just curious were they first time mums? Carolyn www.cares-sa.org,au Sally Westbury wrote: For those who encouraged me along the jouney. The babies who were overdue waited patiently.. while their mothers waited impatiently until Feb arrived before their arrival. One due the 8th of jan was born the 1st of Feb (24 days over) looking a little overcooked and weighed in at 3.6kg despite the late scan saying 4.1kg.. the other due the 11th of Jan arrived on the 2nd of Feb (22 days) looking not a minute overdue despite mothers dates and scan dates matching around 16 weeks! Both these women resisted pressure (and bulling) from the obs involved and from family and friends to trust themselves and their babies. I am so inspired by them both. Sally Westbury Homebirth Midwife "You are a midwife, assisting at someone else's birth. Do good without show or fuss. Facilitate what is happening rather than what you think ought to be happening. If you must take the lead, lead so that the mother is helped, yet still free and in charge. When the baby is born, the mother will rightly say: "We did it ourselves!" from The Tao Te Ching
[ozmidwifery] The Ezzoa are coming!!
check out the links below to the ezzo information websiteand GFI newsletter-and the lecture series advertsied in the GFI newsletter -these people are outrightcranks - the AAP (American Academy of Paediatrics) have denounced theirBabywise program - case studies of failure to thrive and further articlesare available by following the links below. They are bringing their "goodies" downunder .Lectures to be held in Perth Sydney and Tasmania in Feb!! Apparently in Perth their advertsing is mainstream without any mention of religion. It may be worth printing some info eg the article byPaediatrician Matthew Aney (also a chrstian) to give to mothers in yourcontact.Thiswarning on the ABA guestbook by a disenchanted ex-Ezzo employee contains the relevant links. . Your readers may want to be alerted to the fact that Gary Ezzo, founder of Growing Families International, is focusing his attention on Australia and New Zealand. I used to work for Ezzo and wrote an article about him for Midwest Christian Outreach last year. "Adventure in Ezzoland" is available on the ezzo.info web site: http://www.ezzo.info The GFI newsletter for Australia has more information: http://www.gfi.org.au/Newsletter/GFA-Newsletter-October-2002.pdf Frank York [EMAIL PROTECTED]Hermitage, TN USA _
Re: [ozmidwifery] J K Rowling
Yes. Why do you ask? Jacky - Original Message - From: Sally Westbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:11 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] J K Rowling Anybody know of an obs. Micheal Humphrey?? From Cairns?? Sally Westbury Homebirth Midwife You are a midwife, assisting at someone else's birth. Do good without show or fuss. Facilitate what is happening rather than what you think ought to be happening. If you must take the lead, lead so that the mother is helped, yet still free and in charge. When the baby is born, the mother will rightly say: We did it ourselves! from The Tao Te Ching -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] J K Rowling
Yes. Why do you ask? Jacky [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Sally Westbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:11 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] J K Rowling Anybody know of an obs. Micheal Humphrey?? From Cairns?? Sally Westbury Homebirth Midwife You are a midwife, assisting at someone else's birth. Do good without show or fuss. Facilitate what is happening rather than what you think ought to be happening. If you must take the lead, lead so that the mother is helped, yet still free and in charge. When the baby is born, the mother will rightly say: We did it ourselves! from The Tao Te Ching -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Aussie Poll on war
Pinky ...whats the Link to the web address where the poll resides? The ones below dont work for me... Darren - Original Message - From: Pinky McKay To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 8:50 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Aussie Poll on war Hi sorry this isnt about midwifery -but it does affect women and kids if you are interested... Pinky Subject: A.B.C. Poll on war with Iraq DEAR EVERYONEPLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO VOTE ON THIS. IF ANYBODY CAN MAKEA DIFFERENCE TO THOSE THAT DO MAKE THE FINAL DECISION, IT IS THE MEDIA.This is an ABC Poll, 2000 votes isn't going to move John Howard much but amillion votes will. Please take a second to complete this pass it ontoyour friends with a real urgency. Please, there is not a lot we can do,butthis is something we can do that will make a difference ifenough people yell loud enough!Cast your vote and check out the results to date.The question:Do you believe there is a case for war against Iraq?http://www.abc.net.au/news/poll1/vote/http://www.abc.net.au/news/poll1/vote/
[ozmidwifery] Micheal Humphrey
He is coming to WA as the director of obstetric services Sally Westbury Homebirth Midwife You are a midwife, assisting at someone else's birth. Do good without show or fuss. Facilitate what is happening rather than what you think ought to be happening. If you must take the lead, lead so that the mother is helped, yet still free and in charge. When the baby is born, the mother will rightly say: We did it ourselves! from The Tao Te Ching -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Overdue Babies,
One was a first time mother.. the other her second babe Sally Westbury Homebirth Midwife You are a midwife, assisting at someone else's birth. Do good without show or fuss. Facilitate what is happening rather than what you think ought to be happening. If you must take the lead, lead so that the mother is helped, yet still free and in charge. When the baby is born, the mother will rightly say: We did it ourselves! from The Tao Te Ching
[ozmidwifery] ACTOBAC trial information please
Could I have some more information regarding this ACTOBAC trial please...forgive my ignorance...but had not heard about it until I perused the list messages many thanksDi Felsbourg (2nd yr student midwife) _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Aussie Poll on war
Hi Darren It seems that if you click on the first link then on img (on left hand side half way down list) an email box pops up try sending a vote through that -I cant see anything else either, but teh results show up on the link at this page. Pinky - Original Message - From: Darren Sunn To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Aussie Poll on war Pinky ...whats the Link to the web address where the poll resides? The ones below dont work for me... Darren - Original Message - From: Pinky McKay To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 8:50 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Aussie Poll on war Hi sorry this isnt about midwifery -but it does affect women and kids if you are interested... Pinky Subject: A.B.C. Poll on war with Iraq DEAR EVERYONEPLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO VOTE ON THIS. IF ANYBODY CAN MAKEA DIFFERENCE TO THOSE THAT DO MAKE THE FINAL DECISION, IT IS THE MEDIA.This is an ABC Poll, 2000 votes isn't going to move John Howard much but amillion votes will. Please take a second to complete this pass it ontoyour friends with a real urgency. Please, there is not a lot we can do,butthis is something we can do that will make a difference ifenough people yell loud enough!Cast your vote and check out the results to date.The question:Do you believe there is a case for war against Iraq?http://www.abc.net.au/news/poll1/vote/http://www.abc.net.au/news/poll1/vote/
[ozmidwifery] VBAC book
Hi All, I would like some recommendations on a good VBAC book for our local ABA library Any ideas? Katrina Matthews -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] gallbladder
Hi, Rhonda, By the time you receive this, you'll be home again, so I hope the surgery went smoothly and wish you a very speedy recovery. I'm sure you'll be relieved! Aviva --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/03
Re: [ozmidwifery] VBAC book
check out the CARES SA suggested reading list: www.cares-sa.org.au Carolyn has made some comments about the books that we recommend highly. cheers Jo Bainbridge founding member CARES SA www.cares-sa.org.au [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 08 8388 6918 birth with trust, faith love... - Original Message - From: Tim and Katrina [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmid [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 2:15 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] VBAC book Hi All, I would like some recommendations on a good VBAC book for our local ABA library Any ideas? Katrina Matthews -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Thrush handout/gentian violet
Hi, Joy, I don't know what system you use, but have a go selecting what you want, then hold 'control' while you press 'c' (copy) then put your cursor where you want the text to go to, then hold 'control' while you press 'v'. In short, 'cntrl, c, cntrol, v'. Failing that, do you have a toolbar with a scissors (cut) button, a copy button, and a paste button? I just about had a party the day I finally worked out the cutandpaste shortcuts. So easy! for a writer, it's manna from heaven. Good luck! aviva - Original Message - From: Joy Cocks To: Ozmidwifery Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 2:32 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Thrush handout/gentian violet I can't seem to manage to copy and paste, so will rewrite this handout here.This is certainly not a definitive treatment and I usually suggest thatwomen use the parts that they feel they can manage. Also, as someone elsesuggested, thrush can be very resistant and take much longer to get out ofthe system. (It is probably time I reviewed the handout anyway.)Re the gentian violet - this is still recommended by a number ofbreastfeeding experts. However, it can no longer be purchased in Aus to thebest of my knowledge. The study showed that it was carcinogenic/toxic inrats in very large doses, much more than we would ever use. For furtherinformation check out (Dr) Jack Newman's web pages. He has heaps of goodinformation. You should be able to find your way to his articles by goingto http://users.erols.com/cindyrn/printnotenough.htm or do a search for DrJack Newman.Also Dr Lisa Amir of Richmond (Melbourne) is something of a "thrush expert".Treatment for Thrush (Yeast Infections) in the Breast.1. Treat other thrush infections (vaginal, partner, baby's bottom, etc.)2. Use oral Daktaren Gel on nipples and in baby's mouth 3-4 times a day.3. Take acidophilus/bifidus supplement - 6 capsules spaced evenlythroughout the day. Keep in the fridge.4. Eat a lot of garlic or take garlic capsules, as it is anti-fungal andboosts the immune system.5. Take zinc supplement as per directions on the bottle.6. Reduce sugar to a minimum and use no artificial sweeteners.7. Decrease intake of yeasts - bread, wine, Vegemite, Promite, biscuits,mushrooms.8. No dried fruits, grapes, rockmelon or peanuts.9. Good foods to eat include plain acidophilus yoghurt, pasta, rice, ricecakes, fresh fruit and vegies, yeast-free bread, crumpets.10. Hygiene - dry upper body and breasts with separate handtowel or nappy;use soap for hands and nails after nappy change/nipple treatment; soak brasand breastpads separately, wash, then dry in sun; boil all feeding aids for10 mins. If using sterilising solution, ensure that all items are rinsedwith freshly boiled water prior to use.11. Rinse nipples with 1 teaspon carb soda to 1 cup boiled water or 1tablespoon white vinegar to 1 cup of boiled water 3-4 times a day. Pat dryand apply antifungal cream. Air the nipples as much as possible.12. Continue treatment for at least 7 days after symptoms have gone.13. If the infection is resistant to these treatments, you may need to seeyour doctor for oral medication. Kenacomb ointment may also be useful(script required) - no need to rinse off before feeds as very littleabsorbed through baby's gut.Joy Cocks RN (Div 1) RM CBE IBCLCBRIGHT Vic 3741email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]--This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics.Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/03
[ozmidwifery] Re: [C-Aware] Randomised Controlled Trial on vbac v's cs (long)
Title: Re: [C-Aware] Randomised Controlled Trial on vbac v's cs (long) Thank you Gail for your words of support. I can not stress hard enough though how I don't want this to go to the media YET! I think the media is a tool that we can use but as a last resort: for e.g. if the trial goes ahead to use it to warn women against being involved. What I am doing today is writing a letter to the research team one last time to ask them to confirm a few things. Even if they don't respond (which will be to their detriment) I am then going to take it to the ethics committee that has approved the preliminary trail at Adelaide's Women Children's hospital. I want to hit the ethics committee with every single argument voiced by as many as possible...so I need people to write letters of concern and get them to me within the next 2 weeks PLEASE!!! In the mean time I am meeting with the heads of OB and Mid at WCH and also bringing this up at the ACMI SA meeting. I need as many people as possible to really highlight just how unnecessary and unethical, uneconomical, etc this trial is. send them to PO Box 1013 Nairne 5252 SA I am scanning the brochures and placing them on the CARES web site and also going to see if I can get them on the Birthrites and MC web sites also. I am slightly concerned that they might have changed the information contained in the brochures (after our scathing review) but as they have not supplied up dated ones (after repeated requests) the information I have must be considered correct. Those who want them sooner please email me and I will send hard copies. I am writing a summary of the trial and our concerns. Anyone who wants to access it can print it in their respective newsletters or journals. cheers for now (exhausted and nervous) Jo Bainbridgefounding member CARES SAwww.cares-sa.org.au[EMAIL PROTECTED]phone: 08 8388 6918birth with trust, faith love... - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [C-Aware] Randomised Controlled Trial on vbac v's cs (long) I agree with Jackie, Jo. You're definitely in the right in this instance. I had an opportunity to have a fairly close read of both brochures last night, and gave it to Neil to read, too. We were both pretty shocked by some of the info in them, esp. the one for prospective participants. Some of the info is simply untrue! Their take on the risks, for example: "For a woman who has a vaginal birth after a previous caesarean birth there is a very small risk (1 in 150 or 1 in 250 is a very small risk according to the brochure) of the uterus tearing leading to serious problems for the mother, such as major bleeding and needing a hysterectomy" If anyone can correct me please do, but I thought the risk of rupture during VBAC was 2 in 1000? Maybe I've got my info wrong? I'm not even going to comment on the ethics of 'randomising' (which is a vastly different word to 'random' with a completely different meaning BTW) 2000 women into two groups! There's been plenty said about that already. I don't think your concern with this study or your actions against it are alarmist or hysterical (which is how the media usually portray those of us without the dangly bits when it comes to natural birth). From what I can see you've strategised your plan of attack perfectly and are going about it in a well ordered and competent manner. Best of luck with it on your end. gail. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 5 February 2003 8:39 Subject: Re: [C-Aware] Randomised Controlled Trial on vbac v's cs (long) I am very protective of CARES reputation and do not want to see it fall with the trial (if you get my drift).Understandably, Jo, thats why every piece of information that your group passes on to the bigger birthing community needs to be checked and double-checked to be accurate whether thats by email or through the media. As long as what you are saying is true, then any mud thrown just wont stick. Okay? Dont let the big guys scare you, its all a game to them.Take care,Birthing Beautifully,Jackie M. [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.birthrites.org
Re: [ozmidwifery] Aussie Poll on war
inkyt i don't get anywhere with those links kind regards trudie http://www.homebirthservices.com.au Trudie de Keijzer phone 02 47574744 mobile 0438 572337 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Caul
Hi Jo Yes I have a photo but it wouldnt show up well scanned into the computer. If ever you happen to be in the area drop in and have a look J hug Julie Clarke Childbirth and Parenting Educator Transition into Parenthood 9 Withybrook Pl Sylvania NSW 2224 T. (02) 9544 6441 F (02) 9544 9257 M. 0401 265 530 email [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of JoFromOz Sent: Wednesday, 5 February 2003 8:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Caul Wow Julie! Do you have a photo of it, by any chance? I'd love to see! Jo :)
Re: [ozmidwifery] gallbladder
Rhonda. Hope everything goes well and you are home by now as you read this the same day with the the offending bit corrected and the pain minimal. BIG HUGS AND lOVING WISHES FOR A SPEEDY RECOVERY. Robyn Aulmann at home Rutherglen now! - Original Message - From: Rhonda To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 8:37 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] gallbladder I am going in tomorrow to have my gallbladder out. It seems to have gone so fast. I have spoken to the dr and the anaesthetist about not over dosing me on painkillers etc so that I may come home tomorrow night and they have been very good about it. So it may only be a day stay if all goes well otherwise I will be staying overnight. I guess I will be sore for a few days but have been assur4ed that keyhole surgury is not that bad if all goes well. Will let you know how I go later. Thanks to all those who offered advise. Rhonda PS: having a fat free diet since Christmas has been gr4eat - now almost 10kgs latter i have made some really nice low fat meals and feel great! So somethiong good has come out of this after all. i am sure the weight loss has been helped by the "fear" factor - if I eat it it may hurt! so I will go without. LOL No cheating on this diet, best diet I have ever been on. *grin* Not that i would recommend gallstones to anyone. I did test myself and had a few bites of my son's home made hamburger (not high fat really) Spent a few hours in pain and decided that I would not do that again. So I guess it is not going to settle down without surgery. IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
Re: [ozmidwifery] Aussie Poll on war
Hi, Got through on the link, but when you click on "total" - you reach a page that states this poll is closed - but that there will be others on Iraq - the tota count was over 58,000 - with 90% voting NO - Are you listening John??? Veronyka - Original Message - From: Pinky McKay To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:50 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Aussie Poll on war Hi sorry this isnt about midwifery -but it does affect women and kids if you are interested... Pinky Subject: A.B.C. Poll on war with Iraq DEAR EVERYONEPLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO VOTE ON THIS. IF ANYBODY CAN MAKEA DIFFERENCE TO THOSE THAT DO MAKE THE FINAL DECISION, IT IS THE MEDIA.This is an ABC Poll, 2000 votes isn't going to move John Howard much but amillion votes will. Please take a second to complete this pass it ontoyour friends with a real urgency. Please, there is not a lot we can do,butthis is something we can do that will make a difference ifenough people yell loud enough!Cast your vote and check out the results to date.The question:Do you believe there is a case for war against Iraq?http://www.abc.net.au/news/poll1/vote/http://www.abc.net.au/news/poll1/vote/
Re: [ozmidwifery] Aussie Poll on war
Are you listening John??? No because the sound of financial benefits (like the US saying "of course we will buy your wheat! BULLST) will always ring louder!!! I have heard that the Lord Mayor of Brisbane is pleading with his constitutes to return the "How to Spot a Terrorist" $15, 000, 000 booklet back to the commonwealth government. I think it is a great idea, and as Downer is our 'local' (yeah right) I will certainly be sending it back with a note saying how $15,000,000 would be better off spent implementing NMAP !!! I encourage others to do the same. I am interested in reading the 'how to spot a terrorist' though; see how many ethnic groups they are going to offenddefamation guys! Jo Bainbridgefounding member CARES SAwww.cares-sa.org.au[EMAIL PROTECTED]phone: 08 8388 6918birth with trust, faith love... - Original Message - From: VERONYKA CAMPBELL To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Aussie Poll on war Hi, Got through on the link, but when you click on "total" - you reach a page that states this poll is closed - but that there will be others on Iraq - the tota count was over 58,000 - with 90% voting NO - Are you listening John??? Veronyka - Original Message - From: Pinky McKay To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:50 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Aussie Poll on war Hi sorry this isnt about midwifery -but it does affect women and kids if you are interested... Pinky Subject: A.B.C. Poll on war with Iraq DEAR EVERYONEPLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO VOTE ON THIS. IF ANYBODY CAN MAKEA DIFFERENCE TO THOSE THAT DO MAKE THE FINAL DECISION, IT IS THE MEDIA.This is an ABC Poll, 2000 votes isn't going to move John Howard much but amillion votes will. Please take a second to complete this pass it ontoyour friends with a real urgency. Please, there is not a lot we can do,butthis is something we can do that will make a difference ifenough people yell loud enough!Cast your vote and check out the results to date.The question:Do you believe there is a case for war against Iraq?http://www.abc.net.au/news/poll1/vote/http://www.abc.net.au/news/poll1/vote/
