[ozmidwifery] RE:

[Dean & Jo]

I will ring Women’s Health Statewide
and ask if they have details.  The people
listed on the back are no known to me currently but I have only been in Adealide since 1998 so one of the ‘locals’
might know them.  I will hunt around!

Cheers

Jo Bainbridge CD

CARES SA
Maternity Coalition

Bloomin Good Birth

 

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Hello





 





I run a voluntary support group in
Brisbane for women who have had traumatic births.  I picked up a Postnatal
Distress handout from a Womens Health community centre in Logan and i was
wondering where i could contact the writers of the handout.  The names on
the back of the handout are Candy Hyde(RN) and Diana Maddocks(RN).  The
handout was printed by Adelaide Women's Community health Centre in 1993 and the
address was 64 Pennington Tce, North Adelaide.  





 





Thank you for your time and help.





Ursula 












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[Ursula and Henk]

Hello
 
I run a voluntary support group in Brisbane for 
women who have had traumatic births.  I picked up a Postnatal Distress 
handout from a Womens Health community centre in Logan and i was wondering 
where i could contact the writers of the handout.  The names on the back of 
the handout are Candy Hyde(RN) and Diana Maddocks(RN).  The handout was 
printed by Adelaide Women's Community health Centre in 1993 and the address was 
64 Pennington Tce, North Adelaide.  
 
Thank you for your time and help.
Ursula 

Re: [ozmidwifery] Channel 7 induction story...

[Kate &/or Nick]

Thank you Tania - look forward to the info.

Kate
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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 10:28 PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Channel 7 induction story...


Have emailed Brian Peat to access the study he was quoting, will let you
know what the reply is

Tania
x

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Sent: Wednesday, 13 July 2005 10:15 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Channel 7 induction story...

Hi Miriam,
My Mum taped it for me if that helps??
It will probably be in tomorrows Advertiser.
Otherwise contact Brian Peat or at least the hospital for a copy of the
study.
It was  pretty basic, as you expect from a news story and of course nicely
followed by the "special delivery" of a baby in the carpark of FMC, "thank
goodness they got all the green lights from Happy Valley, otherwise baby
would have come on South Rd, and you can imagine how hard it would be to
find help then".

Yuk Yuk Yuk

Megan

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Sent: Wednesday, 13 July 2005 8:55 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Channel 7 induction story...

Hi tania and all,

I missed the story as I was at work and can't find the transcript on the
website. Does anyone have more info and maybe a link to get further info on
this so called research. i'm sitting at the computer fuming with rage. love,
miriam (2nd year FUSA)

--- Tania Smallwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> How misleading a promo can be...
>
> A news story saying that Brian Peat, chief Ob at the Women's and
> Children's hospital is considering recommending that all women be
> induced at 39 weeks, given the evidence that babies over 39 weeks
> gestation are at high risk of death and disability.
>
> Oh dear...
>
> Tania
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RE: [ozmidwifery] 39 week inductions

[Andrea Robertson]

This book is available through Birth International - it is excellent, and 
inexpensive!


http://www.birthinternational.com/product/book/bk800.html

Cheers

Andrea


At 12:20 AM 14/07/2005, you wrote:
A very good booklet about induction is from Sara Wickham: "Induction, do I 
need it?" printed trough Aims http://www.aims.org.uk/
She did research and compared the outcomes of studies. She found that the 
deaths in the studies had nothing to do with overdue, but had other 
reasons. She also questions the believe that 40 weeks is an accurate date 
to give birth. She has some very good points.

www.withwoman.co.uk.

Lieve

Lieve Huybrechts
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Channel 7 induction story...

[Tania & Laurie]

  What the??

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  To: 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 6:21 PM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] Channel 7 induction story...


  >
  > How misleading a promo can be...
  >
  > A news story saying that Brian Peat, chief Ob at the Women's and
Children's
  > hospital is considering recommending that all women be induced at 39
weeks,
  > given the evidence that babies over 39 weeks gestation are at high risk
of
  > death and disability.
  >
  > Oh dear...
  >
  > Tania
  >
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RE: [ozmidwifery] 39 week inductions

[Lieve Huybrechts]

Title: Bericht



A 
very good booklet about induction is from Sara Wickham: "Induction, do I need 
it?" printed trough Aims http://www.aims.org.uk/
She did research and compared the outcomes of studies. She found that the 
deaths in the studies had nothing to do with overdue, but had other reasons. She 
also questions the believe that 40 weeks is an accurate date to give birth. She 
has some very good points.
www.withwoman.co.uk.
 
Lieve
 
Lieve Huybrechts
vroedvrouw
0477/740853

  
  -Oorspronkelijk bericht-Van: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Dean & 
  JoVerzonden: woensdag 13 juli 2005 15:50Aan: 
  ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auOnderwerp: [ozmidwifery] 39 week 
  inductions
  
  What 
  needs to be asked here is just how many still births are we talking 
  about?  We (mainly the doctors) 
  PRIDE ourselves on having one of the lowest perinatal mortality rates in the 
  world and yet they are happy to suggest inductions at 39 weeks for women to 
  potentially save a few?  What 
  about the number of babies who suffer fetal distress due to a failed induction 
  resulting in CS and then the risks associated with that? I last heard that 
  over 40% of inductions result in CS for failure to progress and Fetal 
  Distress!!  What about the links 
  of still birth with women who have had previous cs?  Are they not just inventing another 
  self perpetuating cycle that places them (the docs) as the saviours of what is 
  nothing more than iotragenic (sp?) ‘problems’ anyway. 
  
   
  Gr 
  Gr GR!  What is BP lending his name to? 
   Ha she not heard of the dark 
  side!!!  How sad for birthing 
  women.  
  
   
  MIDWIVES 
  NEED TO GET IN AND DO RESEARCH TO COMBAT THIS 
  CRAP!
   
  Jo
   
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[ozmidwifery] 39 week inductions

[Dean & Jo]

What needs to be asked here is just how many still
births are we talking about?  We
(mainly the doctors) PRIDE ourselves on having one of the lowest perinatal mortality
rates in the world and yet they are happy to suggest inductions at 39 weeks for
women to potentially save a few? 
What about the number of babies who suffer fetal distress due to a
failed induction resulting in CS and then the risks associated with that? I
last heard that over 40% of inductions result in CS for failure to progress and
Fetal Distress!!  What about the
links of still birth with women who have had previous cs?  Are they not just inventing another self
perpetuating cycle that places them (the docs) as the saviours of what is nothing
more than iotragenic (sp?) ‘problems’ anyway. 

 

Gr Gr
GR!  What
is BP lending his name to?  Ha she
not heard of the dark side!!!  How sad
for birthing women.  

 

MIDWIVES NEED TO GET IN AND DO
RESEARCH TO COMBAT THIS CRAP!

 

Jo

 








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RE: [ozmidwifery] Channel 7 induction story...

[Tania Smallwood]

Have emailed Brian Peat to access the study he was quoting, will let you
know what the reply is

Tania
x

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Sent: Wednesday, 13 July 2005 10:15 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Channel 7 induction story...

Hi Miriam,
My Mum taped it for me if that helps??
It will probably be in tomorrows Advertiser. 
Otherwise contact Brian Peat or at least the hospital for a copy of the
study.
It was  pretty basic, as you expect from a news story and of course nicely
followed by the "special delivery" of a baby in the carpark of FMC, "thank
goodness they got all the green lights from Happy Valley, otherwise baby
would have come on South Rd, and you can imagine how hard it would be to
find help then". 

Yuk Yuk Yuk

Megan

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Miriam Hannay
Sent: Wednesday, 13 July 2005 8:55 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Channel 7 induction story...

Hi tania and all,

I missed the story as I was at work and can't find the transcript on the
website. Does anyone have more info and maybe a link to get further info on
this so called research. i'm sitting at the computer fuming with rage. love,
miriam (2nd year FUSA)

--- Tania Smallwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> How misleading a promo can be...
> 
> A news story saying that Brian Peat, chief Ob at the Women's and 
> Children's hospital is considering recommending that all women be 
> induced at 39 weeks, given the evidence that babies over 39 weeks 
> gestation are at high risk of death and disability.
> 
> Oh dear...
> 
> Tania
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RE: [ozmidwifery] Channel 7 induction story...

[Megan & Larry]

Hi Miriam,
My Mum taped it for me if that helps??
It will probably be in tomorrows Advertiser. 
Otherwise contact Brian Peat or at least the hospital for a copy of the
study.
It was  pretty basic, as you expect from a news story and of course nicely
followed by the "special delivery" of a baby in the carpark of FMC, "thank
goodness they got all the green lights from Happy Valley, otherwise baby
would have come on South Rd, and you can imagine how hard it would be to
find help then". 

Yuk Yuk Yuk

Megan

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Sent: Wednesday, 13 July 2005 8:55 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Channel 7 induction story...

Hi tania and all,

I missed the story as I was at work and can't find the transcript on the
website. Does anyone have more info and maybe a link to get further info on
this so called research. i'm sitting at the computer fuming with rage. love,
miriam (2nd year FUSA)

--- Tania Smallwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> How misleading a promo can be...
> 
> A news story saying that Brian Peat, chief Ob at the Women's and 
> Children's hospital is considering recommending that all women be 
> induced at 39 weeks, given the evidence that babies over 39 weeks 
> gestation are at high risk of death and disability.
> 
> Oh dear...
> 
> Tania
> 
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Channel 7 induction story...

[Miriam Hannay]

Hi tania and all,

I missed the story as I was at work and can't find the
transcript on the website. Does anyone have more info
and maybe a link to get further info on this so called
research. i'm sitting at the computer fuming with
rage. love, miriam (2nd year FUSA)

--- Tania Smallwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> How misleading a promo can be...
> 
> A news story saying that Brian Peat, chief Ob at the
> Women's and Children's
> hospital is considering recommending that all women
> be induced at 39 weeks,
> given the evidence that babies over 39 weeks
> gestation are at high risk of
> death and disability.  
> 
> Oh dear...
> 
> Tania
> 
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RE: [ozmidwifery] story sharing

[Lieve Huybrechts]

Title: Bericht



Hip hoi, that's what happens when you speak from the 
bottom of your womb :-)
 
greetings
Lieve
 
 
Lieve Huybrechts
vroedvrouw
0477/740853

  
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Ceri & 
  KatrinaVerzonden: woensdag 13 juli 2005 11:00Aan: 
  ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auOnderwerp: [ozmidwifery] story 
  sharingHi everyoneI had an awesome day today and just 
  have to share it with someone!! Just sharing a story with you, today i 
  presented my speech about how the media influences the thinking and perception 
  of birthing women (I posted awhile ago regarding references) to my fellow uni 
  students and other 'midwifery heirarchy' and educators etc. After making 
  myself tachycardic from stress, I got up and let it rip with my speech, had an 
  absolute ball as I got into it and lots of fun with the powerpoint 
  presentation I had created!!! Ended up slightly overtime, but noone seemed to 
  mind as I think the enthusiasm showed through!Take 
  careKatrinaPS for those going to the ICM, have an awesome 
  time.PPS Thanks Jo for the ref on the article, I was able to use it in the 
  presentation
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[ozmidwifery] story sharing

[Ceri & Katrina]

Hi everyone
I had an awesome day today and just have to share it with someone!! Just sharing a story with you, today i presented my speech about how the media influences the thinking and perception of birthing women (I posted awhile ago regarding references) to my fellow uni students and other 'midwifery heirarchy' and educators etc.  After making myself tachycardic from stress, I got up and let it rip with my speech, had an absolute ball as I got into it and lots of fun with the powerpoint presentation I had created!!!  Ended up slightly overtime, but noone seemed to mind as I think the enthusiasm showed through!

Take care
Katrina

PS for those going to the ICM, have an awesome time.
PPS Thanks Jo for the ref on the article, I was able to use it in the presentation




<>

www.niagaraparkshow.com.au

RE: [ozmidwifery] Ascending head

[Mary Murphy]

WHAT a lovely explanation of how to do a VE (if it is necessary).  Our
medical colleagues would benefit from that description.  Cheers, MM

I loved Ina May Gaskins approach to doing a VE. Put your fingers in and
then rest gently on the cervix. Don't do.. just wait a moment so that
the cervix doesn't clamp. (if you think about doing a rectal exam you
know that the involuntary action it to clamp, if you wait a moment
before trying to do anything else it helps the involuntary reflex). Then
after waiting/meeting the cervix gently feel.

Sally

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[ozmidwifery] Channel 7 induction story...

[Tania Smallwood]

How misleading a promo can be...

A news story saying that Brian Peat, chief Ob at the Women's and Children's
hospital is considering recommending that all women be induced at 39 weeks,
given the evidence that babies over 39 weeks gestation are at high risk of
death and disability.  

Oh dear...

Tania


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RE: [ozmidwifery] Risk of uterine rupture + CARES

[Dean & Jo]

That sort of comment can be taken to politicians
and the media if desired: that a professional would use blackmail and/or defamatory
comments to sway your choice.  It
adds to Jenny Gambles comments about OB’s defaming midwives and midwifery
and the shit you would get in if you said it about their profession!  You could even write to the college of
OBs to complain although there would be little they would/could do nut the
state and federal health ministers would not be able to ignore it.  Not what you want to do when you’re
pregnant but if you do act it might stop it from happening to someone else.

Cheers

Jo

 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005
3:30 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Risk of
uterine rupture + CARES

 

There are a couple more
concerns Joh.  Is your obstetrician being anticompetitive or even
defamatory?  Just worth thinking about. 

 

Warm regards,  
Robyn

 

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Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Risk of
uterine rupture + CARES

 

Dear Joh,

Who is this Ob working for? Is he keeping your best interests at heart? Is he
breaking his Hippocratic Oath (if he still makes such a thing?) that states he
has "To keep the good of the patient as
the highest priority?"

I think it's time to get another obstetrician, if you need one.

Best of luck with your birth,

David
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On 11/07/2005, at 12:57 PM, Nathan and
Joh wrote:

I agree, after
just being told by the obs that he would not see me if I continued with my
independant midwife - to protect himself from potential litigation - I needed
to read this and be reaffirmed that I am in control! Thanks








Living in hope






Joh







 

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Message -
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To:
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Sent:
Saturday, July 09, 2005 4:24 PM
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Risk of uterine rupture + CARES

Hooray
for Jo!!! You're such an inspiration to me!










Janet










Joyous
Birth











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RE: [ozmidwifery] Birth Pool suitable for use in a small unit

[Tania Smallwood]

Hi Justine, 

We have a guy here in Adelaide who is making the most awesome pools, they
are movable, hard sided, easily erected, lightweight, durable, all the good
things, he is the hubby of a homebirth mum I've birthed with, and also an
excellent carpenter/machinist/something like that.  I can give you his
details and you could talk to him offlist if you like.

Tania
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Subject: [ozmidwifery] Birth Pool suitable for use in a small unit

Dear All

Just wondering if anyone knows about a semi-permanent type birth pool
suitable for use in a small birth unit (220 births per year).

There is the opportunity for corporate sponsorship to get this happening so
we sort of need something more than a kids wading pool.

Any ideas?

JC
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