Re: [ozmidwifery] Photos of beautifull birthing rooms
Paivi (sorry, I can't do the accents!) I am some friends (sisters) from Finland living in Australia that birthed at home - in Australia though. Isn't that strange?! Cheers, Jayne - Original Message - From: Päivi Laukkanen To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Photos of beautifull birthing rooms Absolutely! I plan to show hospital rooms, birthing centre rooms and home. Unfortunately the Birthing Centre consept is not even known about in Finland and we only have some 20 homebirths a year but I am trying to awaken some interest by showing pictures of something we don't really associate with birth over here... Päivi - Original Message - From: jesse/jayne To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 12:09 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Photos of beautifull birthing rooms Can I suggest some pictures of the most mother/baby friendly? That would have to be ~home~ :) Cheers Jayne - Original Message - From: Päivi Laukkanen To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 8:40 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Photos of beautifull birthing rooms Hi everyone, I am putting together a photo gallery to display some of the most beautiful birthing rooms in contrast of the most uncomfortable hospital delivery rooms, with some description of where they are from.The photo gallery will be presented in Tampere Finland later this spring. If you work in an environment, where the birthing rooms are really mother friendly and comfortable, or if you know some places where I could contact to get pictures, please contact me.Unfortunately I will not be able to go and take photoes, since I am back here in Finland. It would be great to get some pictures from many different countries. Paivi Laukkanen Childbirth Educator Finland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[ozmidwifery] birthing in private hosp question
I have renewed hope in our maternity system! My friend - 41yo, 1st time mum 29 weeks into pregnancy seeing private ob and planing on birthing in private hosp (you know, she only wanted the BEST) - said to me today "if I get the chance to have a 2nd child I will by pass the ob and only use a midwife. The ob has done NOTHING! He has barely felt my stomach yet a girl from work is seeing a midwife and she is learning so much from the midwife about her pregnancy. I look forward more to hearing about her midwife visits than I do my ob visits. So I casually suggested that it wasn't too late to 'sack' the ob and go with a midwife! She said she would if she hadn't of already paid the ob the $3,000 out of pocket expense I'm not sure if she had to pay up front or if she was just being financially organised as she is prone to do. I sarcastically told her that chances werehe would do something at the birth to justify his fee :( My friend still likes the idea of birthing in the private hosp because if she has a 'natural' birth she is moved to a swish 5 star motel for days 3 to 5 pp funded by her health fund. She wants to know if you have to have an ob when birthing in a private hosp? Regards Jayne
RE: [ozmidwifery] birthing in private hosp question
Title: Message You should have said to her that $3,000 would have paid for a gorgeous suite for a few days at a 5 star hotel! I have heard women doing that: hire a midwife and birth in a 5 star hotelwhy not? The meals would be better than any private hospital any day! And what is with hospitals and the pathetic excuses for bed linen...over sized thin towels more than blankets! Nothing would better my wool doona and scrunchy pillow though!!! *sigh* the private OB benefitsas tangible as mist. I have a dear friend who had a private OB for her first -because she had paid the insurance cover so why not use it- and then opted for a home birth with her secondnow she tells all her friends to skip the OB bit and go straight for the homebirth!!! :o) (trained her well!) Jo -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jesse/jayneSent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 9:37 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] birthing in private hosp question I have renewed hope in our maternity system! My friend - 41yo, 1st time mum 29 weeks into pregnancy seeing private ob and planing on birthing in private hosp (you know, she only wanted the BEST) - said to me today "if I get the chance to have a 2nd child I will by pass the ob and only use a midwife. The ob has done NOTHING! He has barely felt my stomach yet a girl from work is seeing a midwife and she is learning so much from the midwife about her pregnancy. I look forward more to hearing about her midwife visits than I do my ob visits. So I casually suggested that it wasn't too late to 'sack' the ob and go with a midwife! She said she would if she hadn't of already paid the ob the $3,000 out of pocket expense I'm not sure if she had to pay up front or if she was just being financially organised as she is prone to do. I sarcastically told her that chances werehe would do something at the birth to justify his fee :( My friend still likes the idea of birthing in the private hosp because if she has a 'natural' birth she is moved to a swish 5 star motel for days 3 to 5 pp funded by her health fund. She wants to know if you have to have an ob when birthing in a private hosp? Regards Jayne --No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.20/234 - Release Date: 1/18/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.20/234 - Release Date: 1/18/2006
Re: [ozmidwifery] Photos of beautifull birthing rooms
Wow, It would be more than terrific to get their story in a local magazine. Is there any way you could hook me up with them? Päivi - Original Message - From: jesse/jayne To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Photos of beautifull birthing rooms Paivi (sorry, I can't do the accents!) I am some friends (sisters) from Finland living in Australia that birthed at home - in Australia though. Isn't that strange?! Cheers, Jayne - Original Message - From: Päivi Laukkanen To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Photos of beautifull birthing rooms Absolutely! I plan to show hospital rooms, birthing centre rooms and home. Unfortunately the Birthing Centre consept is not even known about in Finland and we only have some 20 homebirths a year but I am trying to awaken some interest by showing pictures of something we don't really associate with birth over here... Päivi - Original Message - From: jesse/jayne To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 12:09 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Photos of beautifull birthing rooms Can I suggest some pictures of the most mother/baby friendly? That would have to be ~home~ :) Cheers Jayne - Original Message - From: Päivi Laukkanen To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 8:40 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Photos of beautifull birthing rooms Hi everyone, I am putting together a photo gallery to display some of the most beautiful birthing rooms in contrast of the most uncomfortable hospital delivery rooms, with some description of where they are from.The photo gallery will be presented in Tampere Finland later this spring. If you work in an environment, where the birthing rooms are really mother friendly and comfortable, or if you know some places where I could contact to get pictures, please contact me.Unfortunately I will not be able to go and take photoes, since I am back here in Finland. It would be great to get some pictures from many different countries. Paivi Laukkanen Childbirth Educator Finland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ozmidwifery] birthing in private hosp question
Hi Jayne, Perhaps your friend could try seeing her obstetrician as an insurance policy. Worth paying the money for in case a problem arises, but otherwise not required to do anything until a complication actually arises. An analogy I use is that paying for a doctor is like paying for house insurance. Wonderful when the roof blows off as it means and instant fix is available, but in the meantime, I don't want a roofer coming around every so often to see if he can help out with anything on the roof! When labour starts, she can ask the midwives to call the doctor only if needed. Most doctors won't come anyway until second stage, and then only for the shortest time possible. If all is going well, your friend can ask the midwives to catch the baby, but she will have to make it clear to the doctor in advance that this might be the case. Another idea would be to hand him the camera to take the photos - keep his hands busy elsewhere! Tell her to remember that as she is paying the bill, she is entitled to ask him to do anything (within reason!)! Best wishes, Andrea At 10:06 PM 19/01/2006, you wrote: I have renewed hope in our maternity system! My friend - 41yo, 1st time mum 29 weeks into pregnancy seeing private ob and planing on birthing in private hosp (you know, she only wanted the BEST) - said to me today if I get the chance to have a 2nd child I will by pass the ob and only use a midwife. The ob has done NOTHING! He has barely felt my stomach yet a girl from work is seeing a midwife and she is learning so much from the midwife about her pregnancy. I look forward more to hearing about her midwife visits than I do my ob visits. So I casually suggested that it wasn't too late to 'sack' the ob and go with a midwife! She said she would if she hadn't of already paid the ob the $3,000 out of pocket expense I'm not sure if she had to pay up front or if she was just being financially organised as she is prone to do. I sarcastically told her that chances were he would do something at the birth to justify his fee :( My friend still likes the idea of birthing in the private hosp because if she has a 'natural' birth she is moved to a swish 5 star motel for days 3 to 5 pp funded by her health fund. She wants to know if you have to have an ob when birthing in a private hosp? Regards Jayne - Andrea Robertson Director Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.birthinternational.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] waterbirth at birth centre
Speaking of birth centres, my daughter is booked to have her baby at monashBirth centre, Melboune, late April (first grandchild!! Shes asked me to be there -Im excited!) - she would love awaterbirth but there is only one pool - any suggestions? How busy is the centre? Is it worth hirng a pool? will midwives give preference if she makes it clear she really wants to labour in water/ waterbirth? ie in comparison to somebody else who may not mind/ isnt assertive? Pinky
Re: [ozmidwifery] Photos of beautifull birthing rooms
Paivi, here are two beauiful birth centres I visited while in New Zealand last year. Any woman is funded to go there with her own midwife. River-ridge is a beautiful building desgned by a "steiner/ anthroposophical' architect - lovely scultures in small private gardens that can be entered from the rooms and Waterford is more 'corporate'. Both are freestanding/ not attached to hospitals. http://www.riverridgeeastbc.co.nz/ http://www.waterfordbc.co.nz/waterford/index.php?ctnt=about.php Best wishes with your project, Pinky - Original Message - From: Päivi Laukkanen To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 5:17 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Photos of beautifull birthing rooms Wow, It would be more than terrific to get their story in a local magazine. Is there any way you could hook me up with them? Päivi - Original Message - From: jesse/jayne To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Photos of beautifull birthing rooms Paivi (sorry, I can't do the accents!) I am some friends (sisters) from Finland living in Australia that birthed at home - in Australia though. Isn't that strange?! Cheers, Jayne - Original Message - From: Päivi Laukkanen To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Photos of beautifull birthing rooms Absolutely! I plan to show hospital rooms, birthing centre rooms and home. Unfortunately the Birthing Centre consept is not even known about in Finland and we only have some 20 homebirths a year but I am trying to awaken some interest by showing pictures of something we don't really associate with birth over here... Päivi - Original Message - From: jesse/jayne To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 12:09 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Photos of beautifull birthing rooms Can I suggest some pictures of the most mother/baby friendly? That would have to be ~home~ :) Cheers Jayne - Original Message - From: Päivi Laukkanen To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 8:40 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Photos of beautifull birthing rooms Hi everyone, I am putting together a photo gallery to display some of the most beautiful birthing rooms in contrast of the most uncomfortable hospital delivery rooms, with some description of where they are from.The photo gallery will be presented in Tampere Finland later this spring. If you work in an environment, where the birthing rooms are really mother friendly and comfortable, or if you know some places where I could contact to get pictures, please contact me.Unfortunately I will not be able to go and take photoes, since I am back here in Finland. It would be great to get some pictures from many different countries. Paivi Laukkanen Childbirth Educator Finland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[ozmidwifery] Syringe for sub-cut Heparin?
Hi Wise Women, Is anyone working with ahospital policy regarding the size of syringe to be used when giving a sub cut Heparin 5000 iu injection? If so what is the research behind it. Cheers, Sadie
Re: [ozmidwifery] Syringe for sub-cut Heparin?
This injection is only 0.2 mls and so if you give it in a 2 ml syringe the dead space is more than that so common sense says this is not a good idea and thus I have never even looked for a policy regarding it. Can you imagine anyone researching this because measuring the dead space would tell you it wont work. try putting a measure amount in any syringe and then push it up until fluid comes out of the syringe and needle. If you draw up 0.2 mls and then push till the dead space is eliminated in a 2 ml syringe it will not fill the dead space. Therefore the smallest syringe available is the best option and in most cases this would be a 0.5 ml insulin syringe. I havent had a look at the product info it probably gives a recommendatiion. Andrea Q On 20/01/2006, at 11:18 AM, Sadie wrote: Hi Wise Women, Is anyone working with a hospital policy regarding the size of syringe to be used when giving a sub cut Heparin 5000 iu injection? If so what is the research behind it. Cheers, Sadie
Re: [ozmidwifery] Anaemia remedies
In the latest MIDIRS there is an article that says women in Kenya boil the leaves of avocardo trees and drink the juice to bring up their iron levels. Cheers Michelle * This email, including any attachments sent with it, is confidential and for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). This confidentiality is not waived or lost, if you receive it and you are not the intended recipient(s), or if it is transmitted/ received in error. Any unauthorised use, alteration, disclosure, distribution or review of this email is strictly prohibited. The information contained in this email, including any attachment sent with it, may be subject to a statutory duty of confidentiality if it relates to health service matters. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or if you have received this email in error, you are asked to immediately notify the sender by telephone collect on Australia +61 1800 198 175 or by return email. You should also delete this email, and any copies, from your computer system network and destroy any hard copies produced. If not an intended recipient of this email, you must not copy, distribute or take any action(s) that relies on it; any form of disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of this email is also prohibited. Although Queensland Health takes all reasonable steps to ensure this email does not contain malicious software, Queensland Health does not accept responsibility for the consequences if any person's computer inadvertently suffers any disruption to services, loss of information, harm or is infected with a virus, other malicious computer programme or code that may occur as a consequence of receiving this email. Unless stated otherwise, this email represents only the views of the sender and not the views of the Queensland Government.
[ozmidwifery] sonicaid
Hi, I am looking for a contact or company who sells sonicaid hand held dopplers in any state of Australia or even the British home base. Thanks, MM
