[ozmidwifery] Finnish midwife looking for a training

2007-01-23 Thread Päivi Laukkanen
Hi all,

A friend of mine a really nice future midwife from Finland is looking for a 
place in Australia, where she could do a 3 month training in antenatal care and 
birthing. This would take place some time in Jan-May 2008. She would love to be 
able to do both hospital / birthing centre and homebirths. She is required to 
help and assist the birting family as much as possible during the training. 
Please let me know if you know any good possibilities for her.

Best Regards,

Päivi

[ozmidwifery] terminating pregnancy

2006-12-04 Thread Päivi
Hi,

Looking for advise again...
A friend of mine is pregnant, but unfortunately there is no fetus. (Can't think 
of the term in english now). Her options are to wait until week 12, when the 
pregnancy will terminate or to have an abortion now. Sorry, this is not 
something I am familiar with, and just wanted to ask for any advise. Is it 
better to wait and let nature take it's corse, or go the medical way... I guess 
they would give her cytotec. What kind of risks should she be aware of? Any 
good links for websites?

Thank again,

Päivi

Re: [ozmidwifery] terminating pregnancy

2006-12-04 Thread Päivi
Hi Di,

And thanks for your response. I guess it would be quite unpleasant to remain 
pregnant and wait for the spontanious abortion, but do you suggest, that it 
would be better that way? Are the risks of induced abortion to do with cytotec 
mainly or are there other things to consider also?

Päivi
  - Original Message - 
  From: D. Morgan 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 10:50 PM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] terminating pregnancy


  Paivi, These pregnancies generally terminate themselves anytime up to 12 
weeks, as hormone levels aren't conduicive to the pregnancy continuing. It 
depends on the Drs as to whether they do a DC  afterwards. Most times there is 
no need.
  Cheers
  Di M

Re: [ozmidwifery] Dancing in labour and pregnancy

2006-11-09 Thread Päivi

Thanks Luci, This is very interesting.

Päivi

- Original Message - 
From: Luci Bubner [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 8:11 AM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Dancing in labour and pregnancy




Yes Debbie, you are correct in stating that belly dancing was (and still 
is!!) used as a skill for women to assist them in labour not just for 
men's pleasure in Egyptian pubs. It is believed that women would come 
together in a circle, arms all interlocked and encourage the labouring 
woman in her active birth through belly dancing - what a glorious picture 
of supporting one another through birth.


I recently supported a dance teacher in labour, as her doula and in our 
post natal conversations I asked her about what she thought of whether 
dancing made a difference to her experience of birth.


She said she had met with some of her dance friends who have had babies 
and all their labours were quick. She attributes this to the fact that 
dancers are more comfortable with their bodies and probably spend more 
time on the floor than non-dancers. Her midwife also suggested that 
dancers are probably more used to pushing their bodies to the limit 
(perhaps more used to muscle pain) and not so afraid of the pain that 
childbirth can bring.


From spending time on the floor, the hips are more open and flexible as 
well as the back muscles are much stronger, these are both reasons why 
labour can be shorter for dancers. All the dancers (5 including my client) 
are contemporary dancers and contemporary dance does tend to have a bit of 
floor work in it. Also 3 of the women have been doing yoga for the last 10 
years and did prenatal yoga throughout their pregnancies, which is very 
good preparation for birth, both in relaxing and strengthening the body.


Hope this information is of help and interest to you Paivi.

Blessings,

Luci

Doula, Adelaide, South Australia
www.doulaluci.blogspot.com





From: Debbie Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Dancing in labour and pregnancy
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 10:11:36 +0800

Paivi





My understanding is (and I may well be wrong, so please anyone tell me if 
I
am), that belly dancing was originally devised as a skill shown by women 
to

women to assist them in labour - a sort of pelvic rocking to movement.
Slow belly dancing movements are a good skill for an active labour.



As someone who did ballet 'til her mid-20's, I found that I had quite 
strong

pelvic floor muscles, and found it quite difficult to let go of my pelvic
floor muscles during second stage.   Ballet dancing does give you a good
awareness of your pelvic floor - the instructions of the ballet teacher to
pull in and up is all about the pelvic floor and core muscles.



Debbie Slater

Perth, WA



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Sent: Saturday, 4 November 2006 5:26 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Dancing in labour and pregnancy



Hi all,



After being to the Midwifery conference in Germany last week and attending 
a
great latin american dance show last night I am inspired to write an 
article

about dancing and birth. I have a long history in dancing and had easy
births myself. I have talked to quite a few dancing friends lately and all
had natural labors and felt empowered by it. So if you have great stories 
of
women dancing trough labor or how dancing during pregnancy can help, 
please

share. Do you think, that dancing makes pelvic floor muscles stronger, and
that is what helps, or what other advantages can we find in dancing? How
have you seen women use rythm and movements? Does anyone know if there is
difference weather you dance ballet, ballroom, salsa or belly dance...
(prenatally, that is)



Päivi



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Re: [ozmidwifery] Dancing in labour and pregnancy

2006-11-08 Thread Päivi



Hi Angela,

I actually met Ina May last week, and she was 
talking about her daughter-in-law's birth. Maybe that is , what inspired me to 
start thinking of this. I didn't see the photoes though. I will email her and 
ask. I loved the story how this woman was dancing with a stick trough labour. I 
rocked into the walz in a bath tub myself.

Päivi

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Angela Thompson 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 9:22 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Dancing in 
  labour and pregnancy
  
  Hi Paivi
  
  At this year's Homebirth conference (Geelong), midwife Ina May Gaskin 
  spoke about her daughter-in-law's use of dancing during labour (not sure but 
  think she may have been from Brazil and used indigenous music to set the 
  rhythm). Ina showed us some photos - they were great because she looked like 
  she was having a bit of fun with it all. Perhaps you could send an email. 
  
  
  Regards
  Angela
  On 11/4/06, Päivi 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  

Hi all,

After being to the Midwifery conference in 
Germany last week and attending a great latin american dance show last night 
I am inspired to write an article about dancing and birth. I have a long 
history in dancing and had easy births myself. I have talked to quite a few 
dancing friends lately and all had natural labors and felt empowered by it. 
So if you have great stories of women dancing trough labor or how dancing 
during pregnancy can help, please share.Do you think, that dancing 
makes pelvic floor muscles stronger, and that is what helps, or what other 
advantages can we find in dancing? How have you seen women use rythm and 
movements? Does anyone know if there is difference weather you dance ballet, 
ballroom,salsa or belly dance... (prenatally, that is) 

Päivi


Re: [ozmidwifery] International Help

2006-11-03 Thread Päivi



Hi Jo,

You can find some information on the Scandinavia 
(Nordic Countries) here: http://www.stakes.fi/EN/tilastot/statisticsbytopic/reproduction/perinatalreproductionsummary.htm
Let me know if you would like to know the induction 
/ epidural / etc. rates for Finland. I have all the stats fot my 
country

Päivi
Finland

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Janet 
  Fraser 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 6:32 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] International 
  Help
  
  I've got BC and HBstats 
  pulled out of the perinatal data for Australia. I've also got at least one 
  state breakdown.
  Let me know
  J
  
  From: Jo Watson 
  
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 

Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:03 
PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] International 
Help
Hi wise women :) 

Someone on another newsgroup I subscribe to has this request... can 
anyone help?


  I am giving a talk on midwifery to a group of 
  obstetricians next week.
  
  We are in the US but I am 
  interested in comparing our model of care
  with other 
  countries.
  
  I am having a particularly 
  difficult time finding descriptive
  statistics on midwifery 
  practice in other countries. I would like to
  know the percentage of 
  births attended by midwives vs. physicians in
  the UK, Scandanavia, 
  continental Europe, Australia. A comparison of
  perinatal outcomes for 
  these countries would also be helfpul.
  
  Can anyone 
  help?
  
  Note: references for 
  information are essential.
Thanks,
Jo



[ozmidwifery] Dancing in labour and pregnancy

2006-11-03 Thread Päivi



Hi all,

After being to the Midwifery conference in Germany 
last week and attending a great latin american dance show last night I am 
inspired to write an article about dancing and birth. I have a long history in 
dancing and had easy births myself. I have talked to quite a few dancing friends 
lately and all had natural labors and felt empowered by it. So if you have great 
stories of women dancing trough labor or how dancing during pregnancy can help, 
please share.Do you think, that dancing makes pelvic floor muscles 
stronger, and that is what helps, or what other advantages can we find in 
dancing? How have you seen women use rythm and movements? Does anyone know if 
there is difference weather you dance ballet, ballroom,salsa or belly 
dance... (prenatally, that is)

Päivi


Re: [ozmidwifery] Goodbyes

2006-10-13 Thread Päivi



Just a quick noteto all of you, before I run 
of to work.

Two days ago I went to the Finnish Midwives 
meeting, where a hospital midwife gave a speach. She described what it was like 
to care for women twenty years ago, or even ten years ago, when they gave birth 
on their own empowered. She also described the seem in the today's hospitals 
with women wanting all possible drugs at the doorstep. It must be hard to work 
in those circumstances. But what made me really sad is, that 
thisparticular midwife had lost her hope for things ever changing. She 
seemed to have accepted, that time had changed things, and there is no going 
back anymore. When I got home I wrote to her and told about this list, how every 
day I read your encouraging commets and stories of women giving birth on their 
own every day in today's world. How that inspires me to beleive, that I can 
still change things around in my country an tomorrow can be better, than today. 
I received a reply from her. My letter to her had made her very happy, because 
she saw, that there was someone, who has the energy to beleive in the better 
future, to try to fight the system, to inform the parents and inspire. Obviously 
she hadn't sensed this for years. We don't have a single forum like this in my 
country, there are no homebirth conferences or such to attend. Simply there is 
very little change for these midwives around the country to support each other 
in their common goal; to provide women with evidence based 
practise.

I think this list is the best, because I always get 
an onest opinion of what happens, when midwives don't give in to the policies, 
and work independently. And also how things can be done even in the high-risk 
hospital. You are the Best!

Gotta go now,

Don't leave sadie =)

Päivi

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  adamnamy 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 7:04 
  AM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] Goodbyes
  
  
  I too appreciate the 
  variety of input from all contributors. Things get a bit heated but 
  that’s life at the coalface. Our biggest challenge is not each other but an 
  attitude that says women can’t be in charge of their own bodies and make their 
  own decisions. Let’s not lose sight of that goal and get personal. 
  We all do our bit, the bit that we can do. And always, it will vary 
  according to our strengths and weaknesses.
  
  It would be a real 
  shame to lose either of you. As a non midwife, I really appreciate the expertise and the 
  perspectives that midwives working in various settings bring to the 
  discussions. We need to know what we are up against…so be honest about 
  the challenges you face, because they become ours pretty 
  quickly.
  
  In gratitude for your 
  dedication,
  
  amy
  
  
  


Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwives in Finland??

2006-10-12 Thread Päivi
Title: Midwives in Finland??



Hi Justine,

I don't think there are any midwifes from Finland 
here, unless they are just lurking... But I can probably help this woman in what 
ever degree is possible. I am a childbirth educator and work together with the 
Aktive Birth Association in Finland. They will have the best contacts for 
homebirth midwives. Sad thing is, that there are only couple of them and it 
depends greatly where she is living. There are no birth centres and most 
hospitals are fairly medicalized. I have all the statistics for each hospital 
and have a pretty good idea of the different choices if she is living in the 
southern Finland. The booklet she received sounds 
pretty bad. I don't think enemas and shaves are routines anymore, but rest of it 
is probably true. What I find most disturbing in our hospitals is, that many of 
the midwives seem to have lost the trust in normal natural labour, and since you 
can'tchoose the midwife in advance you just have to cross your fingers and 
hope to get mached with a midwife, whoenjoys and knows howto support 
a woman in natural labor. But I guess this is the problem 
everywhere.

Please ask her to contact me by email [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I have also lived in Australia 
myself, so would love to help her out.
Päivi


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Justine Caines 
  To: OzMid List 
  Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 6:30 
  PM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] Midwives in 
  Finland??
  Do we have any Finnish midwives on list?If not 
  does anyone know of any?An Australian woman in Finland is looking for 
  a Homebirth midwife.She was horrified by the following I just 
  want to quote to you the section of the information booklet I received called 
  'we're having a baby'.This section is titled 'admission routines' and it 
  says:'The following procedures will be carried out on admission. First 
  you will be weighed and washed and asked to change into hospital clothes. You 
  will then be given an enema, as an empty bowel gives the baby more room. Your 
  pubic hair may be shaved off. Your blood pressure and pulse will be taken and 
  your urine tested for protein and glucose. An external and internal 
  examination will be made to determine the baby's size, the size of your pelvis 
  and how far the cervix is dilated'. TaJC 



Re: [ozmidwifery] Good Morning

2006-10-07 Thread Päivi

Hi Astra,

I'll be going to Germany too and s exited =)

I had a rest and be thankfull stage at my first labour. It was quite funny, 
because I gave birth in a US hospital with a hospital midwife. There were 
some students in the room (which I did't note at all). My doula told me 
afterwards, that they were watching me very doubtfully, like Let's see what 
is going to happen here. I had a natural labour and got the brake for maybe 
15 minutes. I was told you are fully dilated and can push, when you feel 
like it. It was weird just waiting. I was so exited and kept telling 
everyone, how easy the birth was, that I would have lots of babies more... I 
am so grateful now, that they never brought up the pitocin at this stage. I 
pushed for 20 minutes instintively, and that seemed to amuse the students, 
but in a while they noticed, that the baby was coming out, and their facial 
expressions changed into amazement. This is just, what my doula told me 
afterwards.


I have also been very exited to read the posts lately. It is so exiting to 
hear the real stories from you all. I learn so much everyday here.


Päivi
Childbirth Educator



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: OZ Midwifery list ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 2:54 AM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Good Morning


Good morning everyone, I have been reading these last few threads with great
interest, and just wanted to express how grateful I am that this list is 
here
for me as a student midwife. I remember hearing about women possibly having 
a

period of no contractions at transition, in the group I attended with my own
pregnancy seven years ago!! But after a year attending women in the hospital
(St Average, as one of our lecturers calls it), it was like a light went on
hearing it talked about again. I cant believe I ever forgot it.It is a fear 
of

mine that all my faith in normal birth will be beaten out of me by doing my
initial training in a hospital, where most of us are yet to see even one
normal, undrugged labour and birth! Yikes! That's why I appreciate this 
group

so much, and wanted to let you all know. Regards, Astra.
P.S Lucky me going off to Germany in a couple of weeks for the Midwifery 
today

conference with Renee. Say Hi if you're there!


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Re: [ozmidwifery] intact peri

2006-10-02 Thread Päivi



Hi Michelle,

That sounds like a great number for hospital. What 
is your epidural rate?

Päivi

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Michelle Windsor 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 3:58 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] intact peri 
  
  
  Hi Paivi,
  
  Where I am working (hospital) at the moment the intact peri rate among 
  midwives is about 70% on average (from our computer stats). I don't have 
  any figures but having worked in a birth centre previously, I'd say the intact 
  rate was higher. This is antedotal but it seems that when women gave 
  birth in water or in upright positions they have fewer tears.
  
  
  Cheers
  MichellePäivi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  



Hi all,

I am writing an article on episiotomy. I need 
to know what is the % of intact perineum among homemidwifes or birth 
centres? This is when the mother is having a natural birth.

Does this change if the mother has an epidural 
and is having the baby in a hospital? What I mean is that how much can the 
hospital midwife do to save the perineum if the mother has opted for 
epidural? Is it still mainly to do with the skills of the midwife? Or is it 
a harder job with a medicated mom?

Do you all practise hot compresses, perineal 
massage with oil (during birth) / perineal support?

What is the % of intact peri in a 
waterbirth?

Many questions... Thank you for any ideas or 
comments.

Päivi
  
  
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[ozmidwifery] intact peri

2006-10-01 Thread Päivi



Hi all,

I am writing an article on episiotomy. I need to 
know what is the % of intact perineum among homemidwifes or birth centres? This 
is when the mother is having a natural birth.

Does this change if the mother has an epidural and 
is having the baby in a hospital? What I mean is that how much can the hospital 
midwife do to save the perineum if the mother has opted for epidural? Is it 
still mainly to do with the skills of the midwife? Or is it a harder job with a 
medicated mom?

Do you all practise hot compresses, perineal 
massage with oil (during birth) / perineal support?

What is the % of intact peri in a 
waterbirth?

Many questions... Thank you for any ideas or 
comments.

Päivi


Re: [ozmidwifery] Marketing the Midwife the Doula

2006-09-21 Thread Päivi Laukkanen



Hi Kelly,

Sounds like a great idea, wish I could go... If I 
would be able to make it would like to know how to do the lobbying for a good 
cause! One thing I have noticed, that many midwifes or birth centres don't have 
a professional looking website or a brochure to give out. This is something, 
what I find essential in today's world. I have thought, that I could use my 
skills and work with my sister, who is a graphic designer to come up with a 
template for a birthrelated website and a template for a brochure and a business 
card. You could also use your own photoes with the template. This would make it 
so much easier for someone to get all the good looking material even if they 
don't have the skills for that part of the business. Well, it would take me a 
while to get it done, but this is just an idea I have had. 

Päivi

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kelly @ 
  BellyBelly 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 1:57 
  AM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] Marketing the 
  Midwife  the Doula
  
  
  Dear 
  all,
  
  As you may have read in my 
  previous emails, I have spoken to some high profile business people of late in 
  regards to the situation with maternity services, particularly with lobbying 
  to government and also marketing the midwife and Doula to ‘sell’ the idea to 
  the public. 
  
  The reason I spoke to these people 
  is because I am interested in holding a 
  conference / workshop over a weekend for midwives and Doulas to 
  learn about effectively marketing themselves, improving their networking 
  skills, communication skills and to learn some other essential business skills 
  which I think is badly needed. I would also like to hold a separate session 
  perhaps towards the end of the conference (which wont be of interest to 
  everyone) on lobbying to government and other authoritative bodies in order to 
  get effective recognition for the things that have been lobbied for, for so 
  long. 
  
  While these business professionals 
  I have spoken to wont have the passion and understanding of what we do, for 
  example the idea of homebirth may not be something they would do, promote or 
  feel safe with, their business skills are very valid and even their views are 
  a wake-up call as to what the public do think when presented with such an 
  idea, no matter how educated they might be. It’s time to get out the comfort 
  zone and operate a basic sales rule – ‘you were given two ears and one mouth – 
  and they need to be used in that ratio.’
  
  I would now like to do some market 
  research and ask you who would be interested in attending, and also, what you 
  would like to learn about most – perhaps even if you wouldn’t be able to make 
  it, you could offer three top things you would like to know about how you can 
  get yourselves ‘out there’ or what you can do. I have had a great response 
  from the few people I have already mentioned this to, so now I would like to 
  put this out and ask you if you would come along and be open to some advice 
  from some amazing, successful business people, and look outside the square to 
  get a fresh insight on things that need to change, need to be improved and 
  things that are on the right track.
  
  I anticipate this will either be a 
  full day or two days, perhaps a weekend in Melbourne in the CBD (with a possibility in Brisbane) so those with 
  children can attend. I can strike up a deal with a hotel to get a discount for 
  those coming from interstate. Thoughts?
  Best Regards,Kelly ZanteyCreator, 
  BellyBelly.com.au 
  Gentle 
  Solutions From Conception to ParenthoodBellyBelly Birth 
  Support - 
  http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support
  


Re: [ozmidwifery] re birth story

2006-09-14 Thread Päivi Laukkanen



Hi,

I know I'm far away from you here in Finland, but 
this souds a bit like what I am doing. I run the biggest and trendiest maternity 
speciality store in our capital city. We have nice store in the very best market 
palce in the newiest shopping mall. Our store is quite nice with trendy 
maternity brands, baby wear, nursing tops, breast pumps, slings, Ergos, large 
selection of books etc. We have about 50-70clients in the store every day 
and they are mostly quite mainstream. Now we are trying to build a new service 
and share all this valuable birth / breastfeeding info with the parents and 
build a kind of community like you described.We organice info nights and 
send out e-letters. I am only starting this all and I'm sure there will be many 
things I will be asking you all about? It's great to know, that someone is 
already doing a similar thing so we can all learn from others.

Päivi
Childbirth educator
Finland

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  diane 
  
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 4:53 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] re birth 
  story
  
  That's right Janet, i know these online 
  communities exist for those who seek them out or find them. What Im looking at 
  is a physical presence in the community, where people gather, for info, 
  friendship,access to services and advice. Iwould love granny to be doing 
  her groceries and spot the shopfront and come in for a look at the products 
  then find out about the services and groups etc that are available , then take 
  her info home to her pregnant grandaughter who will share with her friends. I 
  dont really want a retail style thing but a few product lines like slings etc 
  to draw people in. The more in one physical community that are exposed to 
  normal birth, the more the good stories perpetuate.
  Di
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Janet 
Fraser 
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 

Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 
11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] re birth 
story

Di you're describing Joyous Birth 
LOL. We have about 600 online members who meet all over Australia regularly 
and do exactly what you're talking about! But you knew this, I'm sure : 
)
How lovely!
J

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  diane 
  
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 
  9:18 AM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] re birth 
  story
  
  That's a great article Pinky. One of my 
  visions is to create a community of women where positive birth stories are 
  told. I'm hoping to develop a 'birthplace' where women can access 
  services, classes, alternate therapies, groups, resources and products, to 
  help change the culture at least at a local level. I attended the 
  Calmbirth course last week, which was great. One of the most interesting 
  things was meeting midwives and doulas from all over the country, and 
  hearing their different stories. We have little pockets here and there in 
  this country where natural birth and homebirth is not considered to be too 
  radical. The culture in Melbourne is so different, there are doula's and 
  homebirth midwives everywhere, where in other parts of the country they 
  are unheard of! Places like Bellingen, the north coast of NSW, Toowoomba 
  have their own little sub-cultures that are growing. We need to act 
  locally for a sub - culture to develop, that then becomes part of a wider 
  movement. The more positive stories that hit the 'mainstream' , the more 
  momentum is gained. (thanks Pinky and Kelly, and all of you who vocally 
  and publicly advocate for natural birth!)
  Cheers,
  Di
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Pinky McKay 
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 

Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 
8:52 AM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] re birth 
story

Hi all, I have just thought some of you may 
be interested in reading my "column' about my daughters waterbirth - it 
was published as one of my monthly columns in Practical Parenting a few 
months ago and is up on my website - every little bit helps, as they 
say.

http://www.pinky-mychild.com/features/pregnancy/family_born.html

Pinky


[ozmidwifery] midwifery exchange

2006-09-02 Thread Päivi Laukkanen



Hi all,

I am having preliminary thoughts about 
startingsome kind ofsponsorship program for midwifery exchange. 
Earlier this year I met a Finnish obstetrician, who only does gynegology and 
homebirths at the moment. ( Only 4-6 homebirths / year. We only have some 20 
homebirths in our country..) Every year she travels to Holland to spend time 
with the local midwives. She said she needs this to boost her confidence and get 
inspiration for what she does.After this I have been wondering if I could 
start to sponsor (trough my maternity business) one midwife or midwifery 
studentevery year to travel somewherefor 2 weeks or 2 months to see 
how women labor and give birth in the non-medicaliced environment and 
care.This could be spending time with a homemidwife or maybe at a birthing 
centre or even both. If there happened to be some great homebirth conference 
around the time, wouldn't that be perfect for her. I think going to Holland the 
language might be bit of a problem, but US, UK or Australia would be great, 
since most people do speak good english.

Has anyone heard of programs like this? 

Are there some legal issues, I should worry about? 

Do you think there would be homebirth midwives or 
birth centres in Australia, which would take exchangees like this? 
What would be a good length for the stay? 

Do you think the exchange midwife could stay at the 
hosting midwife's home or would she need an apartment? 
Would it be better if two midwives from same unit 
would go, so they could share their experience and maybe be stronger to change 
things once they return home?
What kind of a payment you feel the hosting midwife 
would want for this time?

Almost twenty years ago I spent a year in Adelaide 
as a Rotary Exchange student. I lived with the local families and attended high 
school. I must say it was one of the best years in my life and it had a huge 
impact on my later life. It was great to learn so much about a different culture 
by living with these families. I am still very close to the people I stayed with 
and consider them my family. Have been back five times since then =). I am just 
thinking how much this experinece could change one midwife's views and 
practise... 

Please share any thoughts you have about 
this.

Regards,

Päivi Laukkanen
Childbirth Educator
Finland


Re: [ozmidwifery] OMG what next?

2006-09-01 Thread Päivi Laukkanen

What about this one?

http://www.pregnancystore.com/pushpal_birthing_aid.htm

Päivi

- Original Message - 
From: Jo Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 5:30 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] OMG what next?



http://www.pregnancystore.com/zaky.htm

I think this is actually a real product...

Jo

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Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal examinations

2006-08-31 Thread Päivi Laukkanen



I would love a picture as well =)

Päivi

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Mike  
  Lindsay Kennedy 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 1:44 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal 
  examinations
  Hi would also like your photoLinz
  On 8/30/06, Jo 
  Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote: 
  Two 
words:PURPLE LINEI have a great photo of mine (thanks for 
pointing it out, Mary!) :)JoOn 30/08/2006, at 9:31 
PM, Sally @ home wrote: Just to add to this... There was 
an extremely heated discussion at a meeting with docs and midwives 
where I work about how doing a VE is the only way to  ascertain 
progress in the normal labour of uncompromised healthy women. The 
midwives now have to come up with evidence showing that doing a VE 
within 1- 4 hours of admission to hospital (then 4-6 hourly 
thereafter) is not necessary as we are able to assess progress in 
different ways (all of which have been poo-pooed by the 
medicos)...so...am needing the help of all you wonderfully wise 
women out there.  Thanks in advance. 
Sally - Original Message - From: "Sally @ home" 
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To:  ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 10:30 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] 
Vaginal examinations Was wondering what 
guidelines others worked with regarding when to  do vaginal 
examinations...specifically in the hospital setting. And what 
evidence they base their practice on. Thanks in 
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[ozmidwifery] advise on placenta previa

2006-08-06 Thread Päivi Laukkanen



Hi again you wise women,

I was just talking to a friend of mine, who is 26 
wks pregnant. (First pregnancy). She has been having very strong contractions 
and went to see a doctor because of this. She was told, that she has a placenta 
previa, and the placenta goes over... (She was very confused, since the doctor 
didn't explain her what was going on, just kept saying: Very strange it goes 
over...). She had a soft cervix and also strep B. They also said, that baby is 
laying very low. She was send for bed rest at home and has been having 
contractions all the time. I know she has been hoping for an intervention free 
birth. Can anyone give any thoughts on this, since it's out of my knowledge and 
would like to learn more about it.

Päivi
Childbirth Educator
Finland




Re: [ozmidwifery] advise on placenta previa

2006-08-06 Thread Päivi Laukkanen



Hi Sue and Jan,

Thank you for your replies. Sounds very 
interesting. I will talk to her again and try to find out more.

Päivi

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Susan 
  Cudlipp 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 5:36 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] advise on 
  placenta previa
  
  Jan
  I am curious to know what makes you suggest 
  bicornuate uterus based on Paivi's question? She has stated the friend 
  was told placenta praevia, you point out that with bicornuate uterus the 
  placenta is usually in one horn. Just trying to understand the reason 
  for your diagnosis.
  Paivi - did the doctor say that the placenta went 
  OVER the cervix? And has your friend had any vaginal bleeding? She needs to 
  get the doctor to be explain precisely what he is diagnosing, perhaps taking 
  you or another friend along to help her remember and ask 
  questions.
  Regards, Sue
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Jan 
Robinson 
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 

Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 8:55 
PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] advise on 
placenta previa
Hi PaiviYour friend most likely has a bicornuate (heart 
shaped) uterus. There is a dip in the middle of the fundus around this time 
that makes the baby appear to be lying lower - sometimes like the outline of 
an oblique lie. The placenta is usually sited in one horn and the baby is in 
the other - baby very cramped, hence the strong contractions. These women 
usually deliver early, somewhere between 36-38 weeks. Your friend could do a 
search on the wwwuterine anomalies, bicornuate uterus would be good key 
words to start with.CheersJanJan 
Robinson Independent Midwife PractitionerNational Coordinator Australian 
Society of Independent Midwives8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 
2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350e-mail address: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.auOn 6 Aug, 
2006, at 21:09, Päivi Laukkanen wrote:
Hi again you wise women,I 
  was just talking to a friend of mine, who is 26 wks pregnant. (First 
  pregnancy). She has been having very strong contractions and went to see a 
  doctor because of this. She was told, that she has a placenta previa, and 
  the placenta goes over... (She was very confused, since the doctor didn't 
  explain her what was going on, just kept saying: Very strange it goes 
  over...). She had a soft cervix and also strep B. They also said, that 
  baby is laying very low. She was send for bed rest at home and has been 
  having contractions all the time. I know she has been hoping for an 
  intervention free birth. Can anyone give any thoughts on this, since it's 
  out of my knowledge and would like to learn more about it.PäiviChildbirth 
  EducatorFinland



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Re: [ozmidwifery] List working properly???

2006-06-24 Thread Päivi Laukkanen

Hi,

Just wanted to add, that I am currently on another Australian list (yahoo 
based), and the same problem has been there.


Päivi

- Original Message - 
From: Andrea Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] List working properly???



Hi Lisa,

This illustrates the point I made earlier. If a message is sent to several 
lists at the same time, your ISP may decide that it is a spam email. We 
are definitely not blocking anyone's emails  -  again everyone is welcome 
to contribute here. The ozmid lists has been going now for many many years 
(long before anyone else in OZ) and I guess we have to expect that 
sometimes things don't go smoothly.



We have become so reliant on emails and so sure that they will get through 
we can forget that this whole service operates on sometime dodgy phone 
lines


Again, I will ask Kim to investigate.

Regards,

Andrea

At 07:25 PM 24/06/2006, you wrote:

I

The emails that I am aware of not getting through have often been 
involving the same group of people, and/or regarding birth trauma, the 
ethics of choice, and then there is also mine and Janet's recent emails 
on birthplans (I've had two emails not appear yesterday, one was a follow 
up to David's commentary on the ethics of choice, and one was a response 
to Kelly's further query about Birthplans).


I am aware that not all my mails make it onto the list . I have felt that 
maybe they are not getting through because of the content and a whole 
section with mails from Justin Caines Jennifairy and myself didn't make it 
into my email box.  I read them on the yahoo site as I was checking to see 
if my own mail was there.


This puts me off replying because it just seems that maybe all points of 
view are not wanted.


Lisa Barrett
Independent Midwife.

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Re: [ozmidwifery] ] FW: Birthcentre/ homebirth

2006-06-24 Thread Päivi Laukkanen
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] ] FW: Birthcentre/ homebirth



Hi Nat,

Another really empowering book is "Ina May's Guide 
to Childbirth" if you haven't read it yet and "Baby Catcher" by Peggy Vincent. 


Päivi


Re: [ozmidwifery] Your thoughts on Birth Plans?

2006-06-24 Thread Päivi Laukkanen



Hi Kelly,

I think writing a birth plan is a great way for a 
woman to think of her choicesand force her to research and consider 
different options. Even if the birth plan stayed in her bag she has already 
gained so much by writing it. I have been planning to set up one of those 
interactice birth plans on internet with lots of linksfor more information 
on each topic. I see it as a tool to help women learn of their 
options.

Päivi
Childbirth Educator
Finland


"Kelly @ BellyBelly" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

  




I am writing an article as we 
speak on birth plans (I prefer to say birth intentions or birth preferences 
and hopefully everyone else will too one day!) and I was wondering if anyone 
would be happy to comment from a midwife 
perspective?

I’d like to know: 



  What do you think 
  of birth plans women are writing at the moment 
  What do you think 
  about it being called birth preferences or intentions 
  instead, 
  What you like and 
  dislike when you read them – i.e. too long, too unrealistic or whatever 
  springs to your mind 

I won’t put your name to the 
comments so you can feel free to be open and honest about it, I would really 
love to add your perspectives if you are open to it. Thank-you in advance 
J
Best Regards,Kelly ZanteyCreator, 
BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions 
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Episiotomy

2006-06-19 Thread Päivi Laukkanen

Please send to the list as I am also interested : )

Päivi


- Original Message - 
From: Alice Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 8:38 AM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Episiotomy




Hi Suzi,

I have several studies that show thiscan't think of them all off the 
top of my head, but will find them for you and send you the info. I'll 
have to dig out my thesis (I've been somewhat pretending it doesn't exist 
at the moment).


As a start, I think the recent (2005) JAMA published study talks about it, 
as do Thacker and Banta (1983) and Woolley (1995).


There's also one that compares mediolateral and midline episiotomies 
(Thacker, 2000 from the British Medical Journal).


Hope this helps as a start...I'll try to see what else I can find and send 
to you.



Alice



From: suzi and brett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Episiotomy
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:28:24 +1000

Can anyone point me in the right direction for good evidence that 
episiotomys have an increased risk of extending to  3 or 4 th degree?


or am i remembering - interpreting incorrectly and the best evidence that 
we have only conclude generally that restrictive epis. has lowered 
morbidity because the women mostly doesnt end up with as much truama as 
anticipated.


Little discussion i am having with one of our doctors - who says 
mediolateral cut is not at an increased risk of extending, only midline.


My arguement was that only fetal distress with no time to wait for 
streaching ( or well informed maternal request?) is the only reasons for 
episiotomy.


Im sure if it was a slice down the eye of a penis and the posibility of 
the man having painful sex and other morbidity for the next year - some 
doctors may think twice.


Love Suz x


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[ozmidwifery] Re: Starting solids too early

2006-06-18 Thread Päivi Laukkanen

Hi Kelly,

Thought you might like this artickle. I picked it up from an AP-list, but 
who ever posted it couldn't remember where she had found it...


Päivi


Baby Led Weaning.

What a sensible approach.

You walk past the supermarket shelves of nappies,
dummies, bottles, teats and formula quite happily but
somehow at around four months you find yourself
glancing at the baby rice and colourful jars and tins.
You are not sure if these so called children's foods
belong in a separate category along with turkey
twizzlers but there seems to be a children's version
of most products and they are hard to avoid. Everyone
else is weaning but somehow it doesn't feel right for
you and your baby?

Stop! There is another way. A fantastically
instinctive and intuitive approach to weaning has been
developed by UNICEF and the world heath organisation
WHO

Baby led weaning basically is what it says - you do
not even offer solid food until the baby shows signs
of internal and external readiness (being able to sit
up unaided, tongue thrust movement disappears, gut
lining becomes less leaky between during the weeks
between four and six months.) This generally happens
somewhere around the middle of the babies first year.

At this time at normal family meal times you simply
sit the baby up at the table and offer them pieces of
the raw or cooked ingredients from your family meal.
E.g. - cucumber batons, banana chunks, cooked pasta
shapes, avocado slices. Until the child's pincer
movement develops further they are unlikely to be able
to pick up pieces small enough to choke on and that is
pretty much it! Over the time between 6 and 12 months
on a very gradual basis they will move from being
exclusively breast fed to taking about half of their
calories from solid food.

When you consider that almost 350g of cooked carrot
contains the same amount of energy as 100g of breast
milk it makes those entire big baby / small baby /
weight gain arguments look pretty daft!

The key seems to me that you are not feeding the
child - so throw away those weaning spoons - Just as a
breast fed baby has learnt to regulate their food
intake for the first six months and you learn to
adjust to the idea that you can't visualise how much
milk they are taking this is simply a continuation of
trusting your baby.

Missing out the goo stage means you also miss out
the fiddleyness of introducing one food at a time -
babies who were videoed for the unicef study seemed to
do this naturally.

Weaning is an incredible gradual process on using this
approach - A child needs the same amount of calories
at 6 months, 1 year, 2 years and 3 years (as their
growth rate slows) - it is simply the composition of
these calories that is changing.

The iron issue is often used to encourage mothers to
wean early - breast milk is low is iron yes but this
iron is easily and readily absorbed by the baby - the
store built up at birth is usually running low between
six and twelve months - you can offer iron rich foods
from six months but you must trust that the baby that
needs them will eat them and the baby that doesn't
won't!!

Health Visitors in the UK are only just beginning to
be schooled in this new approach and it is unlikely to
be rolled out until government plans to extend
maternity leave are approved. (Just as the government
weaning advice was changed in 2004 from four to six
months when maternity leave rules were changed
before.) Anecdotal evidence suggests most health
visitors are ignoring this new advice anyway and still
encouraging mothers to wean far to early.

Weaning does seem to be occurring later in the west -
some babies born in the sixties were often solids at
three weeks, ten weeks seemed popular in the seventies
- and so on - politics of our attitudes to food aside
you could view this as the logical next stage!

- Just because your four-month-old baby is watching
you eat it doesn't mean they are ready for solids -
they watch you do everything - that is just what
four-month-old babies do.

- Do not be tempted to spoon feed your baby - allow
them to continue regulating there own food intake just
as they have done already - a very useful skill and
one that may help them avoid eating disorders in adult
life.

- You can introduce a spoon as their manual dexterity
improves but it is for them to use it.

- Present a selection of healthy foods in pieces they
can manage - let them choose which to eat or explore
with their mouths. Do not put foods in their mouths -
this is where the choking danger comes from.

- Babies given solids early do not sleep better - gram
for gram in comparison to breast milk solids are very
low in calories so will not fill them up contrary to
what many people think.

- Waiting for your baby to be ready means that
preparing food is much easier (i.e. no hand blender
etc needed) and food allergies are less likely.

- Baby food manufacturers should no longer be
labelling jars and packets with 16 weeks they have
been told by the government

[ozmidwifery] using a baby sling after C-section

2006-06-16 Thread Päivi Laukkanen



Hi,

I was asked by a woman if she can wear a babysling 
two weeks after her c-section. She was told not to carry anything hevier, than 
the child for six weeks and has asked me since we sold the hug-a-bub baby sling 
for her earlier. Before I answer her, I thought I'd ask you midwives first. To 
me it would make sense to carry the baby in a sling, but since I don't know too 
much about surgery, don't want to give wrong advise.

Päivi
Childbirth educator
Finland




Re: [ozmidwifery] Introducing solids too early

2006-06-09 Thread Päivi Laukkanen
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] Introducing solids too early



Thanks Carol,

It looks georgeous! I think I'll order one and 
check it out. I did actually send a wholesale enquiry already to the publisher. 
What kind of feed back have you got about the book?

Päivi

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Carol Fallows 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 4:37 AM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Introducing 
  solids too early
  
  Hi Paivi,
  The book was published last year by Murdoch 
  Books. It is called 'baby  toddler food' you would need to speak to them 
  if you wanted to stock it. They have a website www.murdochbooks.com. You need to go to 
  their backlist and it is under Food for Life. 
  Thank you,
  Carol
  
  Carol FallowsFallows  AssociatesABN 57 776 135 
  100Editorial, publishing and PR servicesph. 02 9969 1228 (bh) fax 9969 
  9526,
  website: www.carolfallows.com.au
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Päivi Laukkanen 

To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 

Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 5:44 
PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Introducing 
solids too early

Hi Carol,

Your book sounds great. Sometimes I think I 
have to set up my own Publishing company in Finland and start to publish 
good books on birth, breastfeeding and positive parenting. We just don't 
have any good reads in our language. If your books is as good as it sounds I 
would love to sell it in my store, even if it was only in english. So, is it 
getting published??

Päivi

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Carol Fallows 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 9:02 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] 
  Introducing solids too early
  
  Hi Justine,
  Yes the formula and baby food industry is a 
  giant to be reconned with. But there is some light at the end of the 
  tunnel. I provide editorial services to www.essentialbaby.com.au and 
  there was recently a huge outcry over an advertisement saying formula 
  would help solve sleep problems - so much so that the ad was pulled 
  overnight. EB is a fairly powerful force in the parent/consumer world so 
  this has made a few waves. The only way we are going to get the big 
  companies to tow the line is by legislating and that is as likely to 
  happen as is the banning of bullbars! So while they can get away with it 
  they will go on doing so. 
  
  However it is my experience that it is worth 
  having a go and in order to get the message out to parentsit is 
  better to play with the big boys rather than against them. If I was 
  writing a book on such a subject I would be taking a practical approach 
  that gave parents lots of strategies. Last year I wrote a book on baby 
  food with a nutritionist which was subtitled - recipes and practical 
  information for feeding babies and toddlers. We included a section on why babies don't need juice, another on 
  commercial baby foods -and whythey are not essentialand 
  another on how to read labels...The book looks good and the message 
  is 'you can feed your baby simply and easily and here's how, 
  beginningwith breast milk for at least 6 months'. The other problem 
  is that of finding a publisher - we were asked to write this book by 
  Murdoch Books. I think I remember that Maureen Minchin had to self-publish 
  in the beginning?Yes NHMRC has Infant Feeding Guidelines, though the 
  website says they are currently under review. Thanks for the reference to 
  the article in the Ecologist.
  
  Carol FallowsFallows  AssociatesABN 57 776 135 
  100Editorial, publishing and PR servicesph. 02 9969 1228 (bh) fax 
  9969 9526website: www.carolfallows.com.au
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Justine Caines 
To: OzMid List 
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 12:47 
PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] 
Introducing solids too early
Dear Carol and allVery interesting re 
the global perspective.What we have now though is a gigantic 
industry both the formula and baby food industry. In informing women of 
the facts we but up against huge vested interests. I have been 
mulling over a book idea but keep coming back to the thought of how it 
would sell when it would critical analyse the benefits of much of the 
commercial baby flap/trap. What do you think 
Carol??Only last night I checked labels again and the first 
food products say 4-6 months. This is despite the WHO code, Does NHMRC 
also have one?? I can’t rememberDoesn’t matter that most babies 
can’t sit up then!!When I worked for a pollie a few yrs back we 
successfully made Heinz re label rice cereal

Re: [ozmidwifery] Introducing solids too early

2006-06-08 Thread Päivi Laukkanen
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] Introducing solids too early



Hi Carol,

Your book sounds great. Sometimes I think I have to 
set up my own Publishing company in Finland and start to publish good books on 
birth, breastfeeding and positive parenting. We just don't have any good reads 
in our language. If your books is as good as it sounds I would love to sell it 
in my store, even if it was only in english. So, is it getting 
published??

Päivi

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Carol Fallows 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 9:02 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Introducing 
  solids too early
  
  Hi Justine,
  Yes the formula and baby food industry is a giant 
  to be reconned with. But there is some light at the end of the tunnel. I 
  provide editorial services to www.essentialbaby.com.au and there 
  was recently a huge outcry over an advertisement saying formula would help 
  solve sleep problems - so much so that the ad was pulled overnight. EB is a 
  fairly powerful force in the parent/consumer world so this has made a few 
  waves. The only way we are going to get the big companies to tow the line is 
  by legislating and that is as likely to happen as is the banning of bullbars! 
  So while they can get away with it they will go on doing so. 
  
  However it is my experience that it is worth 
  having a go and in order to get the message out to parentsit is better 
  to play with the big boys rather than against them. If I was writing a book on 
  such a subject I would be taking a practical approach that gave parents lots 
  of strategies. Last year I wrote a book on baby food with a nutritionist which 
  was subtitled - recipes and practical information for feeding babies and 
  toddlers. We included a section on why babies 
  don't need juice, another on commercial baby foods -and whythey 
  are not essentialand another on how to read labels...The book looks good 
  and the message is 'you can feed your baby simply and easily and here's 
  how, beginningwith breast milk for at least 6 months'. The other problem 
  is that of finding a publisher - we were asked to write this book by Murdoch 
  Books. I think I remember that Maureen Minchin had to self-publish in the 
  beginning?Yes NHMRC has Infant Feeding Guidelines, though the website says 
  they are currently under review. Thanks for the reference to the article in 
  the Ecologist.
  
  Carol FallowsFallows  AssociatesABN 57 776 135 
  100Editorial, publishing and PR servicesph. 02 9969 1228 (bh) fax 9969 
  9526website: www.carolfallows.com.au
  
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From: 
Justine Caines 
To: OzMid List 
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 12:47 
PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Introducing 
solids too early
Dear Carol and allVery interesting re the 
global perspective.What we have now though is a gigantic industry 
both the formula and baby food industry. In informing women of the facts we 
but up against huge vested interests. I have been mulling over a book 
idea but keep coming back to the thought of how it would sell when it would 
critical analyse the benefits of much of the commercial baby flap/trap. 
What do you think Carol??Only last night I checked labels 
again and the first food products say 4-6 months. This is despite the WHO 
code, Does NHMRC also have one?? I can’t rememberDoesn’t matter that 
most babies can’t sit up then!!When I worked for a pollie a few yrs 
back we successfully made Heinz re label rice cereal but I guess we only 
held them to that produce so without any diligent monitoring the sell sell 
approach remains unfettered.Re the formula industry I red a 
fascinating article that put all the arguments we know very succinctly. It 
is from a UK journal called Ecologisthttp://www.exacteditions.com/exact/browse/307/308/1267/3/22/0/Well 
worth a lookJustine 
CainesNational Policy Co-ordinatorMaternity Coalition IncPO Box 
625SCONE NSW 2329Ph: (02) 65453612Fax: 
(02)65482902Mob: 0408 210273E-Mail: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.maternitycoalition.org.au


Re: [ozmidwifery] Introducing solids too early

2006-06-07 Thread Päivi Laukkanen



Hi Kelly,

I can'r remember of any studies now, but the book 
"Rediscovering Birth" by Sheila Kitzinger (I think it was in that one) has 
interesting information how in different countries we use very different foods 
to start solids. In Finland the first solids have traditionally been potato and 
carrot! and banana and brunes.In US it's rice cereal. but it differs a lot 
between cultures. Too bad I can't remember the rest. I would love to get a copy 
of your article, when it's ready.

Päivi

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kelly @ 
  BellyBelly 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 1:28 
  AM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] Introducing solids 
  too early
  
  
  I’ve come across so many mums who 
  are introducing solids far too early and as a result I am writing an article 
  on it and trying to gather information from studies. I heard there was a study 
  in the US which indicated one possible 
  complication was juvenile diabetes. Does anyone know of any studies or 
  resources in regards to solids and early introduction and where I can find 
  them?
  Best Regards,Kelly ZanteyCreator, 
  BellyBelly.com.au 
  Gentle 
  Solutions From Conception to ParenthoodBellyBelly Birth 
  Support - 
  http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support
  


Re: [ozmidwifery] Introducing solids too early

2006-06-07 Thread Päivi Laukkanen



Not sure, if this is at all, what you need, but it 
has some references on the bottom.

Päivi

http://www.lactinv.com/just_one_bottle.htm


Re: [ozmidwifery] Introducing solids

2006-06-07 Thread Päivi Laukkanen



I guess some professionals would say, "Oh your baby 
is so tiny, that he will need more food" or "Oh, he's such a big boy I think 
he'll need some more food"...

Päivi

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Helen and Graham 
  To: ozmidwifery 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 10:45 
  AM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] Introducing 
  solids
  
  
  Some other invalid but commonly 
  cited reasons for deciding to introduce solids earlier than six 
  months from my experience are 
  1. The pressure to get a baby to sleep through 
  the night. If I feed the baby solids I will fill him/her up and he won't 
  wake at night! Sleep deprivation contributes to this 
  decision.
  2. Baby was watching me eat therefore he 
  wants some??!!!
  3. BF more often at around that age( ? 
  due to a growth spurt ).therefore I mustn't have enough milk and the baby 
  wants more than I can give!
  
  Helen


[ozmidwifery] aspartame use during pregnancy

2006-06-06 Thread Päivi Laukkanen



Does anyone know where I can find references 
/ studies / articles about aspartame use and birth defects? Is it generally 
advised in Australia to avoid diet drinks and aspartame when pregnant? In 
Finland I don't think it is considered a risk.

Päivi


[ozmidwifery] Fw: Home birth for Television Series

2006-06-04 Thread Päivi Laukkanen



Hi, 

Picked this up from an Sydney AP list, and just 
thought I'd post it here too.

Päivi We are currently producing an eight part 
fly-on-the-wall documentary series for Foxtel looking at the realities 
of pregnancy, childbirth and the early stages of 
parenthood. As part of the series we are hoping to follow 
someone who is planning a homebirth between July and September 
and as we are a Sydney based production company we are ideally 
looking for someone who lives in the area. The filming will be 
carried out by a small, highly experienced and unobtrusive three 
person crew consisting of one producer, one cameraman and one 
soundman. We envisage no more than three or four filming days 
over the course of two months in order to feature the latter 
stages of pregnancy, the birth itself and a follow up once the baby 
is born.  If you have any further questions or 
queries please do not hesitate to contact me on 02 9439 4911 or 
email [EMAIL PROTECTED]   I look 
forward to hearing from you soon, Many thanks   
Lesley   --  This message has been scanned for 
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[ozmidwifery] perineal massage

2006-05-16 Thread Päivi Laukkanen



Hi everyone,

In my store we sell an organic oil by Weleda for 
perineal massage. ( almond oil, wheat germ oil, natural essential oils.) 
Many women seem to think, that if they simply apply this oil, it will prevent 
tears. I am planning to add some info on perineal massage on our website and 
also prepare a handout to give with the oil. I would appreciate any good links 
on this subject and answers to these questions:

What do you consider the main factors, when 
preventing tears and episiotomies? (other than perineal massage)

Where can I find research on this subject or 
effectiveness of perineal massage?

Päivi


Re: [ozmidwifery] fertility problems

2006-05-09 Thread Päivi Laukkanen



Thanks everyone for your help with the fertility 
issue. I received this thorough explanation from Rebecca and forwarded all your 
answers to my friend. She was very happy and relieved. She said it helps her a 
lot, that someone actually explaines what all these procedures are for. She says 
the doctor didn't even look at her or listen her at all. Now I now a bit more 
myself too. So, thank you.

Päivi



  
  Hi Paivi,
  
  I am replying to you off the ozmid list, but please feel 
  free to share this post. I have 20 years experience as a natural family 
  planning (NFP) teacher, and would have to say that your friend is being 
  offered "the usual" range of investigations, and they are quite reasonable 
  options, especially in light of her history of an ectopic pregnancy (outside 
  the womb, usually in the tube). Even if the tube has been saved, an 
  ectopic can really wreak havoc on the reproductive organs, especially if the 
  pregnancy was treated surgically. 
  
   bloodsamples for 
  ovulation;
  This is just a normal blood test that is mostly used to 
  check her hormone levels are healthy at different times of her cycle. It can 
  be used to indicate if she is ovulating (releasing eggs), which you could 
  safely assume she is seeing as she was pregnant!
  
   take x-ray, where they spray the womb with some special 
  color, which then shows in the x-rays. 
  As Jo said, this is called a HSG and they use a special 
  (blue!) dye to fill the cavity of the uterus.It should then 
  flow up into and through the tubes and out into the pelvis if all is 
  well. It will show if the size and shape of the uterus is healthy for 
  pregnancy (maybe the last baby implanted in the tube because there is a 
  problem in the uterus) and it will show if her tubes are healthy, free and 
  clear (maybe the last baby didn't make it into the uterus because there is a 
  problem in the tubes). They can sometimes push the dye through the tubes 
  pretty hard, which can be a good thing as it can 'unblock' them and sort of 
  'clean them out' a bit, but of course it can't 'unblock' scar tissue. 
  Many women report conceiving in the couple of months after a HSG and think it 
  has a theraputic value, but there is no research to support this and it really 
  is a diagnosic tool. It can be a very painful 
  proceedure at the beginning (to dilate the cervix a little to allow the 
  instruments through) but the rest of the proceedure is not usually painful but 
  might can sometimes be a little uncomfortable. Sedation is usually used, 
  and it is often done under a general anesthetic with other proceedures (see 
  below!). Afterward, there can be a little crampy feeling, but usually 
  there is not much at all.
  
   some kind of operation to see the scar from 
  the previous unsuccesful pregnancy.
  This would be a laparoscopy (or a "lap"), where 
  they put instruments through the abdomen to actually look directly at her 
  uterus, tubes and ovaries. This is a visual inspection of her anatomy, 
  and will reveal the extent of any scar tissue, adhesions and the like from the 
  ectopic. This is done under anesthetic as a day proceedure. The 
  'big cut' from this proceedure is about 1-2cm, along with a couple of 
  'puncture marks' that are very small. I don't think they even stitch any 
  of these any more... they usually don't even scar. Afterward the tummy 
  can be a bit tender, and you can get a very nasty pain up under the left 
  shoulder blade (they fill the belly full of gas to separate the organs and see 
  them better, and if this gas is slow to be absorbed by the body a 'pocket' of 
  gas will collect and irritate, and the pain is felt in the left 
  shoulder. It can be very intense pain - I actually needed 
  pethidine!)
   They would also scrape the womb and 
  take some "samples" to see if her body is doing what it's supposed 
  to. 
  This is called a dilation  currettage, or a 
  DC. The dilation refers to the cervix, again this is a small 
  dilation required to allow instruments to be passed into the uterus, and a 
  currettage is a spoon-like instrument attached to suction that would actually 
  'scrape' away some of the surface lining of the uterus (which she would have 
  shed at her next period). This is sent to patholgy for anaysis, and 
  reveals all kinds of details about her hormone levels and reproductive 
  health. There may be a little spotting for a couple of days following a 
  DC, but again there is not usually very much at all. 
  
   If they find problems the doctor suggested 
  ivfnext. 
  This is where I think we may suddnely jump over into 
  "unreasonable" options! If the lap, DC, and HSG all indicate that 
  she is well and healthy then it would be reasonable to investigate more 
  natural, less invasive assistance to achieve another pregnancy - and certainly 
  learning about her fertility and charting her cycles could help her. She

[ozmidwifery] fertility problems

2006-05-07 Thread Päivi Laukkanen



Hi everyone,

A friend of mine has moved to Sydney and is having 
problems getting pregnant. A year ago she had an operation, because she had an 
unexpected pregnancy and the fetus was outside the womb. (Don't know how to say 
this in english). Now a doctor in Sydney has suggested her togive 
bloodsamples for ovulation, andtake x-ray, where they spray the womb with 
some special color, which then shows in the x-rays. The doctor also suggested 
some kind of operation to see the scar from the previous unsuccesfull pregnancy. 
They would also scrape the womb and take some "samples" to see if her body is 
doing what it's supposed to. If they find problems the doctor suggested ivf 
next. This all sounds like a lot of uncomfortable procedures. Just wanted to ask 
if you guys would have any input on this? Aren't there more gentle ways to go? 
This really is an area that I know nothing about.

Päivi




Re: [ozmidwifery] Birthing Music

2006-04-12 Thread Päivi Laukkanen
My favourite is Mariner from Tony O'Connor. You can listen to it at 
http://www.tonyoconnor.com.au/catalogue/cds.htm. This is a wonderfull 
relaxation cd, but also has a personal meaning for me, which always makes it 
more special : )


Paivi

- Original Message - 
From: Ceri  Katrina [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 3:16 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Birthing Music



Hi everyone
I know this is going to be a very individual preference, but just 
wondering if any of you wonderful people out there can recommend some 
music for birthing. I have my Enya CD and a couple of others, but am 
wanting some more. If anyone has a CD or artist they can recommend from 
personal or other experience that would be fabulous.


thanks in advance
Katrina



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[ozmidwifery] Hi from Finland

2006-04-02 Thread Päivi Laukkanen

Hi Andrea,

I remember talking to you about the use of gas and air in Britain. The 
midwife, who has helped me a lot with my projects lives in the UK and works 
in a Birth centre, where they use the gas and air a lot. I remember you said 
there are many sideaffects for this. Now unfortunately she has found out, 
that the baby is Down Syndrome. I don't know the situation too well, but it 
just suddenly made me think, that can there be any connection to the gas and 
air? I would't talk to her about it, but thought I'd ask you about it.


Also I was reading about the binding in Japan in your diary. We sell a post 
natal girdle in our store. We only sell couple of them in year and never 
thought too much about it, but could this work in a similar way? 
http://www.bebes.fi/kauppa/product_info.php?cPath=23_28products_id=909language=en


Päivi Laukkanen
Finland 



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[ozmidwifery] previous email was not intended for the list : (

2006-04-02 Thread Päivi Laukkanen

Sorry everyone,

I accidentally posted a mail to the list, which was intended for Andrea 
personally.


Paivi 


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[ozmidwifery] supplements during pregnancy

2006-02-21 Thread Päivi Laukkanen



Hi,

I lived in US, when expecting my first one and 
there it was always in the magazines, that all women planning pregnancy or 
pregnant shouldtake folic acid supplements. Here in Finland we don't 
really hear about folic acid. It is mainly the iron, that is suggested during 
pregnancy. Or multivitamins. Pharmaceutical companies are recommending all sorts 
of stuff, but what really are the important ones... What kind of supplements do 
you midwives recommend for your clients to take during pregnancy and 
breastfeeding? 

Päivi 
Independent Childbirth educator
Finland



Re: [ozmidwifery] supplements during pregnancy

2006-02-21 Thread Päivi Laukkanen



Thank you for the information. Here in finland you 
can't get just folic acid on it's own. It always comes in a multivitamin or 
ironsupplement I guess. I would like to provide a reasonable product for Finnish 
women, so do you think, that I should seek for a plain folic acid product, and 
sell that in my store? Can you remember the daily recommendations for folic 
acid?

Päivi

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Nicole 
  Carver 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 11:00 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] supplements 
  during pregnancy
  
  Hi 
  Paivi,
  
  Iron 
  should only be taken by women who are anaemic, or you can see they are heading 
  that way (ie Hb going down.) Of course these women need full investigation 
  too, with iron studies and a medical examination and history. There has been 
  some question that giving iron to women who don't need it can lead to blood 
  which is more viscid, and reduces the blood flow through the 
  placenta.
  
  Folic acid on the other hand, drastically reduces the incidence of 
  neural tube defects such as spina bifida and anencephaly, with a possible side 
  effect of a small increase in the possibility of having twins. Women who have 
  a history of a previous baby with a neural tube defects are prescribed higher 
  doses. Folic acid should be taken pre-conception and for the first fourteen 
  weeks.
  
  I 
  don't see the need for any other supplementation than folic acid, unless the 
  woman has a demonstrated deficiency or they are strict vegans, in which case I 
  believe supplementation with B12 is recommended.
  
  Regards,
  Nicole.
  
-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Päivi 
LaukkanenSent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 6:35 AMTo: 
ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] supplements 
during pregnancy
Hi,

I lived in US, when expecting my first one and 
there it was always in the magazines, that all women planning pregnancy or 
pregnant shouldtake folic acid supplements. Here in Finland we don't 
really hear about folic acid. It is mainly the iron, that is suggested 
during pregnancy. Or multivitamins. Pharmaceutical companies are 
recommending all sorts of stuff, but what really are the important ones... 
What kind of supplements do you midwives recommend for your clients to take 
during pregnancy and breastfeeding? 

Päivi 
Independent Childbirth educator
Finland



Re: [ozmidwifery] supplements during pregnancy

2006-02-21 Thread Päivi Laukkanen



Very interesting Lieve. This is exactly why I love 
this list. I would never get these answers anywhere else...

Päivi

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Lieve Huybrechts 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 12:32 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] supplements 
  during pregnancy
  
  
  Hoi 
  Païvi,
  
  What I read through 
  the time about folic acid is that only women that took chemical anticonception 
  for a long time need folic acid. They don’t absorb it well and have low levels 
  when they stop with the anticonception. So you can make a difference with 
  women who didn’t take anticonception for a while.
  
  I also read, but 
  don’t ask me where J that taking folic 
  acide doesn’t reduce the incidence of neural tube defects, but with normal 
  levels a womens body works better, so also the natural selection, so the 
  affected foetus is spontaneously aborted.
  So I stimulate women 
  that took oral anticonception to wait a while before getting pregnant and to 
  supplement with folic acid. If thay come on preconceptional consultation I do 
  a blood test and test for folic acid an iron and never give supplements 
  without reason.
  
  In the books of 
  Michel Odent you also can find that a drop in hb level and iron after 28 weeks 
  is very normal. It seems that women who don’t have the drop are more at risk 
  for premature delivery. So I never give supplementation of iron, except there 
  is a real severe anaemia. You always have to keep in mind that also bacteries 
  grow on iron. Around birth a woman is vulnarable to infections so it is normal 
  for a body to protect itself by lowering the iron reserves. 
  I recommend healthy 
  food, walking and swimming and it works.
  
  Kind 
  regards
  Lieve
  
  
  Lieve Huybrechts
  vroedvrouw
  0477740853
  
  
  
  -Oorspronkelijk 
  bericht-Van: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Päivi LaukkanenVerzonden: dinsdag 21 februari 2006 
  22:39Aan: 
  ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auOnderwerp: Re: [ozmidwifery] supplements 
  during pregnancy
  
  
  Thank you for the information. 
  Here in finland you can't get just folic acid on it's own. It always comes in 
  a multivitamin or ironsupplement I guess. I would like to provide a reasonable 
  product for Finnish women, so do you think, that I should seek for a plain 
  folic acid product, and sell that in my store? Can you remember the daily 
  recommendations for folic acid?
  
  
  
  Päivi
  

- Original Message - 


From: Nicole 
Carver 

To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 


Sent: 
Tuesday, February 21, 2006 11:00 PM

Subject: RE: 
[ozmidwifery] supplements during pregnancy



Hi 
Paivi,



Iron 
should only be taken by women who are anaemic, or you can see they are 
heading that way (ie Hb going down.) Of course these women need full 
investigation too, with iron studies and a medical examination and history. 
There has been some question that giving iron to women who don't need it can 
lead to blood which is more viscid, and reduces the blood flow through the 
placenta.



Folic 
acid on the other hand, drastically reduces the incidence of neural tube 
defects such as spina bifida and anencephaly, with a possible side effect of 
a small increase in the possibility of having twins. Women who have a 
history of a previous baby with a neural tube defects are prescribed higher 
doses. Folic acid should be taken pre-conception and for the first fourteen 
weeks.



I 
don't see the need for any other supplementation than folic acid, unless the 
woman has a demonstrated deficiency or they are strict vegans, in which case 
I believe supplementation with B12 is recommended.



Regards,

Nicole.
-Original 
  Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Päivi 
  LaukkanenSent: 
  Wednesday, February 22, 2006 6:35 AMTo: 
  ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] supplements 
  during pregnancy
  
  Hi,
  
  
  
  I lived in US, 
  when expecting my first one and there it was always in the magazines, that 
  all women planning pregnancy or pregnant shouldtake folic acid 
  supplements. Here in Finland we don't really hear about folic acid. It is 
  mainly the iron, that is suggested during pregnancy. Or multivitamins. 
  Pharmaceutical companies are recommending all sorts of stuff, but what 
  really are the important ones... What kind of supplements do you midwives 
  recommend for your clients to take during pregnancy and breastfeeding? 
  
  
  
  
  Päivi 
  
  
  Independent 
  Childbirth educator
  
  Finland
  
  


[ozmidwifery] has anyone tried the made in water birthpool?

2006-02-12 Thread Päivi Laukkanen



Hi, 



I am planning to 
stock this new cool birthpool in my Maternity store. It sells only for GBP45! It 
seems to be the hot product on the market...
Just wondering if 
anyone has tried it?

http://www.madeinwater.co.uk/poolcom.htmlo 

Paivi
Independent 
Childbirth Educator
Finland


Re: [ozmidwifery] Photos of beautifull birthing rooms

2006-01-19 Thread Päivi Laukkanen



Wow, It would be more than terrific to get their 
story in a local magazine. Is there any way you could hook me up with 
them?

Päivi

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  jesse/jayne 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 12:49 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Photos of 
  beautifull birthing rooms
  
  Paivi (sorry, I can't do the 
  accents!)
  
  I am some friends (sisters) from Finland living 
  in Australia that birthed at home - in Australia though. Isn't that 
  strange?!
  
  Cheers,
  
  Jayne
  
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Päivi Laukkanen 

To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 

Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 9:54 
AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Photos of 
beautifull birthing rooms

Absolutely! I plan to show hospital rooms, 
birthing centre rooms and home. Unfortunately the Birthing Centre consept is 
not even known about in Finland and we only have some 20 homebirths a 
year but I am trying to awaken some interest by showing pictures of 
something we don't really associate with birth over here...

Päivi

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  jesse/jayne 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 
  12:09 AM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Photos of 
  beautifull birthing rooms
  
  Can I suggest some pictures of the most 
  mother/baby friendly? That would have to be ~home~ :)
  
  Cheers
  
  Jayne
  
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Päivi Laukkanen 

To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 

Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 
8:40 AM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Photos of 
beautifull birthing rooms

Hi everyone,

I am putting together a photo gallery to 
display some of the most beautiful birthing rooms in contrast of the 
most uncomfortable hospital delivery rooms, with some description of 
where they are from.The photo gallery will be presented in Tampere 
Finland later this spring. If you work in an environment, where the 
birthing rooms are really mother friendly and comfortable, or if you 
know some places where I could contact to get pictures, please contact 
me.Unfortunately I will not be able to go and take photoes, since 
I am back here in Finland. It would be great to get some pictures from 
many different countries.

Paivi Laukkanen
Childbirth Educator
Finland

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[ozmidwifery] Photos of beautifull birthing rooms

2006-01-18 Thread Päivi Laukkanen



Hi everyone,

I am putting together a photo gallery to display 
some of the most beautiful birthing rooms in contrast of the most uncomfortable 
hospital delivery rooms, with some description of where they are from.The 
photo gallery will be presented in Tampere Finland later this spring. If you 
work in an environment, where the birthing rooms are really mother friendly and 
comfortable, or if you know some places where I could contact to get pictures, 
please contact me.Unfortunately I will not be able to go and take photoes, 
since I am back here in Finland. It would be great to get some pictures from 
many different countries.

Paivi Laukkanen
Childbirth Educator
Finland

[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: [ozmidwifery] Photos of beautifull birthing rooms

2006-01-18 Thread Päivi Laukkanen



Absolutely! I plan to show hospital rooms, birthing 
centre rooms and home. Unfortunately the Birthing Centre consept is not even 
known about in Finland and we only have some 20 homebirths a year but I am 
trying to awaken some interest by showing pictures of something we don't really 
associate with birth over here...

Päivi

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  jesse/jayne 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 12:09 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Photos of 
  beautifull birthing rooms
  
  Can I suggest some pictures of the most 
  mother/baby friendly? That would have to be ~home~ :)
  
  Cheers
  
  Jayne
  
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Päivi Laukkanen 

To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 

Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 8:40 
AM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Photos of 
beautifull birthing rooms

Hi everyone,

I am putting together a photo gallery to 
display some of the most beautiful birthing rooms in contrast of the most 
uncomfortable hospital delivery rooms, with some description of where they 
are from.The photo gallery will be presented in Tampere Finland later 
this spring. If you work in an environment, where the birthing rooms are 
really mother friendly and comfortable, or if you know some places where I 
could contact to get pictures, please contact me.Unfortunately I will 
not be able to go and take photoes, since I am back here in Finland. It 
would be great to get some pictures from many different 
countries.

Paivi Laukkanen
Childbirth Educator
Finland

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Re: [ozmidwifery] Waterbirths

2006-01-08 Thread Päivi



Hi from Finland for a change,

It sounds like a great rise in waterbirths, which 
is great. I was going to write about the article in a little local active birth 
newsletter, but have somequestions about the article first:


"UNDERWATER births have 
risen by nearly 40 per cent in the past five years as women aim for more natural 
delivery, Homebirth Australia has found."
Would this mean in all over 
Australia or just in NSW?"The Royal Hospital for Women reported 126 of 
its births, or 38 per cent, were under water last year compared to 25 per cent 
in 1997."

Does this mean, that 40% off all births in this 
hospital or do they have a separate Birth Centre? It doesn't sound like a very 
busy hospital with some 300 births a year...

Oh, and another silly question: Is The Sunday 
Telegraph, the Sydney Newspaper?


Thanks for this info,

Päivi



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Helen and Graham 
  To: ozmidwifery 
  Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 2:14 
  PM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] Waterbirths
  
  
  
  A rising tide of water births
  From:  
  
  
  By Ellen ConnollyJanuary 08, 2006 
  
  
  UNDERWATER births have risen 
  by nearly 40 per cent in the past five years as women aim for more natural 
  delivery, Homebirth Australia has found."More and more women are using 
  water as a pain reliever, either at home or in birthing centres," said 
  Homebirth Australia secretary Justine Caines, who recently gave birth to twins 
  in a blow-up pool at her home. 
  The Royal Hospital for Women reported 126 of its 
  births, or 38 per cent, were under water last year compared to 25 per cent in 
  1997. 
  Celebrities including Elle Macpherson, Kate Winslet 
  and Pamela Anderson have embraced the growing trend. And most recently, 
  MacLeod's Daughters star Bridie Carter had a water birth. 
  At least seven NSW hospitals have water birth 
  facilities. 
  In 2004, research published in the British Medical 
  Journal showed women who spent at least part of their labour in water had less 
  pain and were less likely to require intervention than those cared for in the 
  conventional way. 
  
  However, 
  the Australian Medical Association opposes water births because of "potential 
  risks for the baby", including water in the lungs". 



Re: [ozmidwifery] hair dye

2005-09-23 Thread Päivi
Title: Message



Hi!

I have had my hair dyed for more, than 10 years 
with Sebastian's Color Shine, which is peroxide-free, alcohol-free and 
ammonia-free, Colourshines uses pure, natural colour pigments that are safely 
deposited on the hair. It has 17 different shades, which can be mixed also. I 
use a mixture of three different reds, and love the colour. It is bright, but 
looks natural. The distributer is Wella, and it is only available in hair 
salons.

Päivi

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Tania 
  Smallwood 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 11:47 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] hair dye
  
  
  Hi 
  Sylvia
  
  I am unsure what the 
  research says about this one, or if there has been any good quality research 
  done…but I have a friend who is a hairdresser, specializes in colouring, and 
  her advice to me, (and she took it herself when she had her first baby last 
  year) was to avoid the permanent colours, particularly on the roots of the 
  hair, for the first trimester, but that semi-permanent colours were 
  fine. They simply coat the hair with a layer of colour, rather than 
  penetrating into the hair shaft/follicle/potentially the skin. So 
  perhaps your friend could use a semi for the time being, just to be on the 
  safe side. I think there are some more ‘natural’ hair colours out there 
  too, not sure who makes them, and then there is always 
  henna.
  
  Hope that 
  helps
  
  Tania
  
  
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] 
  On Behalf Of Sylvia 
  BoutsalisSent: Thursday, 22 
  September 2005 5:52 PMTo: 
  ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] hair 
  dye
  
  
  hello,
  
  
  
  can anyone help with this 
  enquiry. A friend of mine is just pregnant. She dyes her hair 
  about every 3 weeks as she has a lot of white hair. What is the 
  viewpoint of hair dye and pregnancy?
  
  
  
  Thanks in 
  advance.
  
  
  
  Sylvia 
  Boutsalis
  
  Childbirth 
  Educator
  
  Infant Massage 
  Instructor
  
  Adelaide


Re: [ozmidwifery] pelvic floor / incontinence

2005-08-29 Thread Päivi
Wow, that sounds so interesting! I have a history as a dancer and I am 
opening a dancestudio in six months time. We are also aiming to provide 
different classes for moms and babies before and after birth. Pelvic Power 
sound like a hit. We are also working on a class for prenatal exercise in 
latino music... so any ideas of specific movements and exercises are 
welcome. I will be holidaying in Oz Oct-Dec. Sounds like I need to visit 
Brisbane and meet your friend. Does she have a website?


Paivi
Maternity store owner / childbirth educator, Finland


- Original Message - 
From: Meaghan Moon [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] pelvic floor / incontinence


Pilates is great for ab/back and pelvic floor strengthening!  Have any of 
you been to a Feldenkrais Pelvic Power workshop?  I highly recommend it. 
You may be able to find more info by searching the internet for either 
Pelvic Power or Feldenkrais.  I have a friend in Brisbane who teaches 
it.  It should be compulsory for all women!!!


Meaghan


At 07:24 AM 8/29/05, you wrote:
Hi - I have recently returned to the list after several years absence.  I 
am interested in the discussion sparked by Sue following her visit to the 
incontinence clinic.  I have had some conversations recently with a physio 
who specialises in pilates and has a specific interest in pelvic floor 
function.  I had assumed that the increase in incontinence pad advertising 
was aimed at an older or elderly age group but apparently she is seeing a 
significant portion of her practice being young (seemingly) fit women 
after their first babies who are suffering from incontinence. She feels 
that this is a problem that has been hidden or taken as normal by women 
and perhaps as a normal consequence of childbirth.  I bought a booklet 
called Women's Waterworks by Dr Pauline Chiarelli which quotes that36% of 
women over 45 suffer incontinence and apparently 60%of all nursing home 
admissions are due to incontinence.  This little booklet is aimed at 
teaching women how to regain bladder control and goes  into detail about 
the role of hormones and various muscle groups in the contraction of the 
bladder and pelvic floor.  I found it well written and informative.
Anyway my take on the whole issue is that the majority of people are now 
very sedentary compared to our previous history and also use furniture and 
sitting toilets.  I don't think these things can be good for your pelvic 
floor.  I don't believe forceps or epidurals or instructed pushing can be 
good either.  I think it probably takes much more effort to keep this part 
of our body healthy in this age of TV and couches than most of us realise 
and so the consequence is that it becomes weak following the physical, 
hormonal and neurological changes following childbirth.  I am thinking now 
that perhaps are you doing your pelvic floor exercises? needs to be an 
issue that I spend a lot more time on in education and follow-up.

Maxine



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Re: [ozmidwifery] BF video

2005-08-26 Thread Päivi

Yes please, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thank you : )


Any more takers for this one???
It will take a while for me on my slow line to upload.
I will try to get on line about lunch time tomorrow to send to
those who say.
Cheers
Judy

--- Kate /or Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Ditto please

Kate

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  - Original Message -   From: Denise Hynd
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
  Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 6:15 PM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] BF video


  Judy
  can you send it to me?
  Thank you
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Denise Hynd

  Let us support one another, not just in philosophy but in
action, for the sake of freedom for all women to choose
exactly how and by whom, if by anyone, our bodies will be
handled.

  - Linda Hes

- Original Message - From: Judy Chapman
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 3:35 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] BF video


I have just been sent a hilarious video (2MB). Mum doing a
yoga handstand, baby crawling and knows where the good stuff
comes from... Need I say more.
What a laugh.
On a par with one of my bellydance mates who is still BF a
2 yr old. 10 min prior to performance it was a loud Titta,
Mum, Titta and when side one was finished Other side Mum,
other side.
God love 'em.
Cheers
Judy



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Re: [ozmidwifery] when to cut an episiotomy

2005-08-23 Thread Päivi



Thank you so much for your answers regarding the 
episiotomy. I have been reading about it, and always knew how unneccessary it 
is, but I guess I didn't realise howlittle it is needed, when the birth is 
cared in a correct way. I must say I was supprised about your epis rates, and it 
gave me even more courage to fight against it over here...
Thank you for sharing your experience.

Paivi


[ozmidwifery] when to cut an episiotomy

2005-08-21 Thread Päivi



A mom asked me when is episiotomy really needed. 
She had asked from many professionals, and all just gave her the answer, that 
"They will try to avoid episiotomy, but will cut just in case, if not sure". In 
Finland the episiotomyrates arefrom 4% to 50%, and for firsttime 
moms from 9% to 88%!. It is usually beleived, that the midwife will know best. 
(That is a medicalaized hospital midwife in most cases).I already know, 
that you have a different opinion on when it is needed, but it would be 
interesting to know from you, who work as midwifes, how oftenhave you 
performed episiotomies? Does anyone know, what is the national average in the 
Australian hospitals?

Paivi


Re: [ozmidwifery] when to cut an episiotomy

2005-08-21 Thread Päivi



Hi Nicole,

That is so awasome, how many births have you done 
in your career? I read about a midwife, who had performed 6 episiotomies 
in 650 births. Two of these were when she was taught how to make them as a 
student.

Paivi

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Nicole 
  Carver 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 12:55 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] when to cut an 
  episiotomy
  
  I 
  will only do an episiotomy if I am really concerned about getting the baby out 
  quickly. I have done one on a peri that was really tight, and didn't 
  stretch up. I think I have done three in my career,
  Nicole C.
  
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Janet 
FraserSent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 6:57 PMTo: 
ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] when to 
cut an episiotomy
I'm not one of the 
professionals in here, Paivi but hi anyway. : )I've read in a few 
places about how episiotomy rates suddenly drop when studies into them 
begin. A hb MW I know does less than one a year so I figure that's a good 
guide.Mostly in hospitals they're performed for no reason at all 
but the damage they do to women's bodies and psyches horrifies me. It's 
sanctioned genital mutilation. In birth planning meetings I run I suggest to 
women that they never put their bodies in a position that can be easily 
reached by someone with scissors. Our rates are very high in Australia. Well 
IMO, any rate of episiotomy is too high unless it's negligible.
Just my 2c ; 
)
Janet

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Päivi 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 6:31 
  PM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] when to cut an 
  episiotomy
  
  A mom asked me when is episiotomy really 
  needed. She had asked from many professionals, and all just gave her the 
  answer, that "They will try to avoid episiotomy, but will cut just in 
  case, if not sure". In Finland the episiotomyrates arefrom 4% 
  to 50%, and for firsttime moms from 9% to 88%!. It is usually beleived, 
  that the midwife will know best. (That is a medicalaized hospital midwife 
  in most cases).I already know, that you have a different opinion 
  on when it is needed, but it would be interesting to know from you, 
  who work as midwifes, how oftenhave you performed episiotomies? Does 
  anyone know, what is the national average in the Australian 
  hospitals?
  
  Paivi


Re: [ozmidwifery] another induction

2005-08-17 Thread Päivi

Hi everyone!

A short introduction of myself: I am a mother of two / a maternity store 
owner / a childbirth educator and a natural birth activist from Finland. I 
have been reading Andrea Robertson's books and diary for a while and got a 
lot of help from her company in organising a new consept of childbirth 
preparation in Finland. Now I decided to follow this list for a while.


In Finland childbirth is pretty medicalized, even though it is the midwives 
providing the care ( in doctor's supervision). I have now started a 7 week 
program for mothers and farthers to be, trying to educate them about the 
normal physiology of birth and the enermous inner strength and ability, that 
they have within their bodies. I am working together with couple of 
midwifes. Natural Childbirth is considered very hippy over here and is 
very very rare. Mothers don't generally feel a need for any preparation and 
the trust for the health care system is great. The first group, that I just 
finished a moth ago was a succes, some of the fathers especially said how 
sceptical they were to attend this course, but everyone was extremely happy 
in the end and felt sorry for all others, that were not attending. I think I 
have started something great, and hopefully it will grow into something big 
and the happy moms and dads will spread the word and more and more parents 
will find out about their options for a better birth. I am also educating 
all my sales people in the store about natural childbirth and breastfeeding, 
so they can even give advise in the store if the subject comes up with the 
moms.


The discussion about the induction and the doctor going away for a holiday 
got me thinking how bad we really have things over here... In Finland you do 
your prenatal visits at the neuvola, where the nurse will see you until 
your birth. Some of the nurses have no practical knowlege of pregnancy and 
birth and quite often give unaccurate information for moms. But the 
neuvola service is well respected, and if they advice to start 
bottlefeeding for example, there is no reason to doubt this... We don't have 
a single Birthing Centre here, and homebirth is almost nonexistent (only 
ab.10-30 births a year). No expences are covered for a homebirth and it is 
hard to find a midwife for the job. The maternity hospital, which is 
considered closest to the midwifery model of care has ARM 32%, oxytocin 53%, 
episiotomy 14%, epidural 25%. So, the moms, that I am trying to educate 
don't really have a lot of choice here. They choose between couple of very 
similar hospitals, that's about how much they can do. When the labor starts, 
they will go to the hospital, and which ever midwife will be on shift will 
care for them. Often they will be cared by 3-4 midwifes until the baby is 
born. Sometimes it feels almost unfair to educate and train these moms for a 
natural birth, when you know what is waiting for them in the hospital. I am 
dreaming of opening a birth centre here in the future.


Paivi


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