Re: [ozmidwifery] * tough* membranes
I put on almost 20kg and mine had to be broken after the birth :) I know it's just anecdote, but I find this stuff interesting. Jo On 22/01/2007, at 9:21 AM, Michelle Windsor wrote: I haven't heard of this Jo but did read something fairly recently (possibly on this list!) that women who took vitamin C were less likely to have pre-labour ruptured membranes. It is interesting that some women's membranes seem to break so easily, like when doing a VE and others stay intact until birth. Maybe there is a relation between maternal nutrition and the membranes. Cheers Michelle - Original Message From: Jo Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, 22 January, 2007 10:07:14 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] * tough* membranes I have absolutely no data on this, but someone once told me it correlates with weight gain during pregnancy. Has anyone else heard of this? Jo On 21/01/2007, at 9:22 PM, Kristin Beckedahl wrote: Hi all, Can anyone comment on what makes the membranes 'tough'..ie. hard to break (AROM) or *slow* to break naturally ? (hard to measure yes) Does this exist or is it just something that happens? Many thanks, Kristin Advertisement: It's simple! Sell your car for just $20 at carsales.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. Send instant messages to your online friends http:// au.messenger.yahoo.com
RE: [ozmidwifery] * tough* membranes
Hi Julie - nice to 'see' you again :-) It does make sense re Vit C. The other nutrients for epithelial/mucous membrane strength are the bioflavonoids (very similar to Vit C), Vit A or betacarotene, and zinc. This woman in question was supplementing her diet with such nutrients (she was a naturopathic client of mine)...But then again so did I during pregnancy and my membranes broke very early in the piece of a 4-5hr labour... So I agree, its multifactoral. BTW this woman had BIG fear issues - so this contributed to everything anyway.. K From: "Julie Clarke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] * tough* membranesDate: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:08:50 +1100 Hi Michelle, Jo and Kristin, I would expect there to be a co-relation between maternal nutrition and strength or thickness of membranous sac, because in every other respect what a woman eats, drinks, smokes etc will impact on her tissue so it stands to reason doesnt it, though I dont recall seeing any scientific evidence on this previously, but I remember being told by an experienced homebirth midwife years ago that if a woman has a high vitamin C content in her diet then its likely her membranes will be tough. Other aspects of a womans environment will have an influence too, on how readily the membranes rupture such as intensity of contractions during labour or perhaps pre-labour if infection is present this is linked to weakening/rupturing the membranes. Id say like most things its a multi-faceted situation. Kristin, from a naturopathic point of view what sorts of things will strengthen mucous membrane tissue? Warm hug Julie Julie Clarke Childbirth and Parenting Educator ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer Transition into Parenthood 9 Withybrook Pl Sylvania NSW 2224. T. (02) 9544 6441 F. (02) 9544 9257 Mobile 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.julieclarke.com.au From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michelle WindsorSent: Monday, 22 January 2007 12:22 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] * tough* membranes I haven't heard of this Jo but did read something fairly recently (possibly on this list!) that women who took vitamin C were less likely to have pre-labour ruptured membranes. It is interesting that some women's membranes seem to break so easily, like when doing a VE and others stay intact until birth. Maybe there is a relation between maternal nutrition and the membranes. Cheers Michelle - Original Message From: Jo Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSent: Monday, 22 January, 2007 10:07:14 AMSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] * tough* membranesI have absolutely no data on this, but someone once told me it correlates with weight gain during pregnancy. Has anyone else heard of this? Jo On 21/01/2007, at 9:22 PM, Kristin Beckedahl wrote: Hi all, Can anyone comment on what makes the membranes 'tough'..ie. hard to break (AROM) or *slow* to break naturally ? (hard to measure yes) Does this exist or is it just something that happens? Many thanks, Kristin Advertisement: It's simple! Sell your car for just $20 at carsales.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com A find engine rather than a search engine - for websites, images, maps & more. Try live.com now! -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] * tough* membranes
Hi Michelle, Jo and Kristin, I would expect there to be a co-relation between maternal nutrition and strength or thickness of membranous sac, because in every other respect what a woman eats, drinks, smokes etc will impact on her tissue so it stands to reason doesn't it, though I don't recall seeing any scientific evidence on this previously, but I remember being told by an experienced homebirth midwife years ago that if a woman has a high vitamin C content in her diet then it's likely her membranes will be tough. Other aspects of a woman's environment will have an influence too, on how readily the membranes rupture such as intensity of contractions during labour or perhaps pre-labour if infection is present this is linked to weakening/rupturing the membranes. I'd say like most things it's a multi-faceted situation. Kristin, from a naturopathic point of view. what sorts of things will strengthen mucous membrane tissue? Warm hug Julie Julie Clarke Childbirth and Parenting Educator ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer Transition into Parenthood 9 Withybrook Pl Sylvania NSW 2224. T. (02) 9544 6441 F. (02) 9544 9257 Mobile 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.julieclarke.com.au _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michelle Windsor Sent: Monday, 22 January 2007 12:22 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] * tough* membranes I haven't heard of this Jo but did read something fairly recently (possibly on this list!) that women who took vitamin C were less likely to have pre-labour ruptured membranes. It is interesting that some women's membranes seem to break so easily, like when doing a VE and others stay intact until birth. Maybe there is a relation between maternal nutrition and the membranes. Cheers Michelle - Original Message From: Jo Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, 22 January, 2007 10:07:14 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] * tough* membranes I have absolutely no data on this, but someone once told me it correlates with weight gain during pregnancy. Has anyone else heard of this? Jo On 21/01/2007, at 9:22 PM, Kristin Beckedahl wrote: Hi all, Can anyone comment on what makes the membranes 'tough'..ie. hard to break (AROM) or *slow* to break naturally ? (hard to measure yes) Does this exist or is it just something that happens? Many thanks, Kristin Advertisement: It's simple! Sell your car for just $20 at carsales.com.au <http://g.msn.com/8HMBENAU/2746??PS=47575> -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [ozmidwifery] * tough* membranes
I haven't heard of this Jo but did read something fairly recently (possibly on this list!) that women who took vitamin C were less likely to have pre-labour ruptured membranes. It is interesting that some women's membranes seem to break so easily, like when doing a VE and others stay intact until birth. Maybe there is a relation between maternal nutrition and the membranes. Cheers Michelle - Original Message From: Jo Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, 22 January, 2007 10:07:14 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] * tough* membranes I have absolutely no data on this, but someone once told me it correlates with weight gain during pregnancy. Has anyone else heard of this? Jo On 21/01/2007, at 9:22 PM, Kristin Beckedahl wrote: Hi all, Can anyone comment on what makes the membranes 'tough'..ie. hard to break (AROM) or *slow* to break naturally ? (hard to measure yes) Does this exist or is it just something that happens? Many thanks, Kristin Advertisement: It's simple! Sell your car for just $20 at carsales.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [ozmidwifery] * tough* membranes
I have absolutely no data on this, but someone once told me it correlates with weight gain during pregnancy. Has anyone else heard of this? Jo On 21/01/2007, at 9:22 PM, Kristin Beckedahl wrote: Hi all, Can anyone comment on what makes the membranes 'tough'..ie. hard to break (AROM) or *slow* to break naturally ? (hard to measure yes) Does this exist or is it just something that happens? Many thanks, Kristin Advertisement: It's simple! Sell your car for just $20 at carsales.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] * tough* membranes
Hi all, Can anyone comment on what makes the membranes 'tough'..ie. hard to break (AROM) or *slow* to break naturally ? (hard to measure yes) Does this exist or is it just something that happens? Many thanks, KristinAdvertisement: It's simple! Sell your car for just $20 at carsales.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
