Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Isolated birth

[Dierdre Bowman]

Jan,
I think you should post this birth plan, I wouldn't mind a look either,
thanks
Dierdre

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Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Isolated birth

[jo hunter]

Hi Jan,
I would love a copy of the 'really good electronic birth plan'.
Please send it to me off list.
Thanks in advance.
Look forward to seeing you on Wed.
Jo x
- Original Message -
From: "Jan Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Isolated birth



Hi Lyle
You can count me in too if you can get me there! The closest I have ever
been to Pitcairn is Norfolk and that's a long way from you.

However, the reality is that you will probably be unassisted except for the
woman's immediate family and the priority now would be to prepare them all
for a natural birth (if natural birth is unfamiliar to them and you). It is
important to work out the role of each family member in supporting the woman
through her labour and possibly assisting you if unexpected circumstances
occur.

Have you got lots of resources, videos, pictures, books depicting natural
birth so you can all get together and discuss options and prepare this
woman's birth plan with her? Also discuss what will be focused on as pain
management. The woman will do much better without drugs and needs to have a
plan on how she will achieve this.  Verbal analgesia from her family will
help.

I can send you a copy of a really good birth plan electronically that will
guide you in your discussion with this woman if you would like it.
Discussing aspects of the birth plan at each prenatal visit will remind you
to leave no part of the pregnancy, labour/birth and aftercare untouched and
will in fact become your documentation of obtaining informed consent for
your management.

Regards
Jan Robinson

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 Independent Midwife Practitioner e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 8 Robin Crescent www:   midwiferyeducation.com.au
 South Hurstville  NSW  2221  National Coordinator, ASIM
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On 13/6/03 10:00 AM, "Andrea Quanchi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'd say go for it. You obviously both understand the limitations of
> isolation and so long as that is the case then it is ultimately her
> decision.  The woman is better with you than without you.  I am assuming
> that you must have someone else on the island who is proficient in CPR
> and I would include them in your birth preperations.  Once the baby is
> born there are two people to be considered and it is reassuring to know
> that there is someone who can care for each in the unlikely event that
> they are needed.  Non birthing people seem to panic at the idea so
> springing it on someone at the last minute is not a good idea but if
> they get to work through the remainder of the pregnancy with you both
> and see that you are making the decision on healthy ideals then they
> will be more comfortable when the time comes.
> What about offering an island holiday to a midwife +/- family around the
> time of birth, Anyway have a great time and keep us informed about the
> plans
> Andrea Quanchi
> On Wednesday, June 11, 2003, at 12:14 PM, Medical Officer wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>> I am at present the sole medical person and midwife on an isolated
>> island where the nearest medical help is seven days away by ship. All
>> mothers over the past 10 years have gone to Auckland to have their
>> babies. I am at present looking after a mother with her second
>> pregnancy (to a new partner) who would like to have this baby on the
>> island where she resides. She had a fairly easy first delivery and
>> this pregnancy has progressed well (she is 24 weeks) with no
>> complications. I am reasonably happy to continue looking after her and
>> delivering on island but I am wondering what other midwives etc. would
>> recommend.
>> Any feedback on this would be great.
>> Thanks,
>> Lyle
>

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Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Isolated birth

[Vance & Edwina]

Jan,
Can I join the bandwagon and ask for a copy of your electronic birthplan too
please?

Cheers, Edwina

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[ozmidwifery] Re: Isolated birth

[Larissa & Tim]

Me too please!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Much appreciated Jan,
Hugs, Larissa
B Mid student SA

> I can send you a copy of a really good birth plan electronically that will
> guide you in your discussion with this woman if you would like it.
> Discussing aspects of the birth plan at each prenatal visit will remind
you
> to leave no part of the pregnancy, labour/birth and aftercare untouched
and
> will in fact become your documentation of obtaining informed consent for
> your management.
>
> Regards
> Jan Robinson
>
>

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RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: Isolated birth

[Lyn Cottee]

And for me if possible, Jan! I've got about 8 weeks to go and haven't put my
thoughts together to submit a birth plan to the birth centre I'm attending.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks!
Lyn Cottee

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Neretlis, Bethany
Sent: Saturday, 14 June 2003 6:11 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
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JAN, A COPY FOR ME TOO
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

love  Bethany


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From: Ross W Timbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 14 June 2003 08:38
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Isolated birth


Jan,
Could I have a copy of your birth plan too please.
Jacky
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Original Message -
From: "Jan Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Isolated birth



Hi Lyle
You can count me in too if you can get me there! The closest I have ever
been to Pitcairn is Norfolk and that's a long way from you.

However, the reality is that you will probably be unassisted except for the
woman's immediate family and the priority now would be to prepare them all
for a natural birth (if natural birth is unfamiliar to them and you). It is
important to work out the role of each family member in supporting the woman
through her labour and possibly assisting you if unexpected circumstances
occur.

Have you got lots of resources, videos, pictures, books depicting natural
birth so you can all get together and discuss options and prepare this
woman's birth plan with her? Also discuss what will be focused on as pain
management. The woman will do much better without drugs and needs to have a
plan on how she will achieve this.  Verbal analgesia from her family will
help.

I can send you a copy of a really good birth plan electronically that will
guide you in your discussion with this woman if you would like it.
Discussing aspects of the birth plan at each prenatal visit will remind you
to leave no part of the pregnancy, labour/birth and aftercare untouched and
will in fact become your documentation of obtaining informed consent for
your management.

Regards
Jan Robinson

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 Jan Robinson Phone/fax: 011+ 61+ 2+ 9546 4350
 Independent Midwife Practitioner e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 8 Robin Crescent www:   midwiferyeducation.com.au
 South Hurstville  NSW  2221  National Coordinator, ASIM
__



On 13/6/03 10:00 AM, "Andrea Quanchi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'd say go for it. You obviously both understand the limitations of
> isolation and so long as that is the case then it is ultimately her
> decision.  The woman is better with you than without you.  I am assuming
> that you must have someone else on the island who is proficient in CPR
> and I would include them in your birth preperations.  Once the baby is
> born there are two people to be considered and it is reassuring to know
> that there is someone who can care for each in the unlikely event that
> they are needed.  Non birthing people seem to panic at the idea so
> springing it on someone at the last minute is not a good idea but if
> they get to work through the remainder of the pregnancy with you both
> and see that you are making the decision on healthy ideals then they
> will be more comfortable when the time comes.
> What about offering an island holiday to a midwife +/- family around the
> time of birth, Anyway have a great time and keep us informed about the
> plans
> Andrea Quanchi
> On Wednesday, June 11, 2003, at 12:14 PM, Medical Officer wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>> I am at present the sole medical person and midwife on an isolated
>> island where the nearest medical help is seven days away by ship. All
>> mothers over the past 10 years have gone to Auckland to have their
>> babies. I am at present looking after a mother with her second
>> pregnancy (to a new partner) who would like to have this baby on the
>> island where she resides. She had a fairly easy first delivery and
>> this pregnancy has progressed well (she is 24 weeks) with no
>> complications. I am reasonably happy to continue looking after her and
>> delivering on island but I am wondering what other midwives etc. would
>> recommend.
>> Any feedback on this would be great.
>> Thanks,
>> Lyle
>

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RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: Isolated birth

[Neretlis, Bethany]

JAN, A COPY FOR ME TOO
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

love  Bethany


-Original Message-
From: Ross W Timbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 14 June 2003 08:38
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Isolated birth


Jan,
Could I have a copy of your birth plan too please.
Jacky
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Original Message -
From: "Jan Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Isolated birth



Hi Lyle
You can count me in too if you can get me there! The closest I have ever
been to Pitcairn is Norfolk and that's a long way from you.

However, the reality is that you will probably be unassisted except for the
woman's immediate family and the priority now would be to prepare them all
for a natural birth (if natural birth is unfamiliar to them and you). It is
important to work out the role of each family member in supporting the woman
through her labour and possibly assisting you if unexpected circumstances
occur.

Have you got lots of resources, videos, pictures, books depicting natural
birth so you can all get together and discuss options and prepare this
woman's birth plan with her? Also discuss what will be focused on as pain
management. The woman will do much better without drugs and needs to have a
plan on how she will achieve this.  Verbal analgesia from her family will
help.

I can send you a copy of a really good birth plan electronically that will
guide you in your discussion with this woman if you would like it.
Discussing aspects of the birth plan at each prenatal visit will remind you
to leave no part of the pregnancy, labour/birth and aftercare untouched and
will in fact become your documentation of obtaining informed consent for
your management.

Regards
Jan Robinson

__
 Jan Robinson Phone/fax: 011+ 61+ 2+ 9546 4350
 Independent Midwife Practitioner e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 8 Robin Crescent www:   midwiferyeducation.com.au
 South Hurstville  NSW  2221  National Coordinator, ASIM
__



On 13/6/03 10:00 AM, "Andrea Quanchi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'd say go for it. You obviously both understand the limitations of
> isolation and so long as that is the case then it is ultimately her
> decision.  The woman is better with you than without you.  I am assuming
> that you must have someone else on the island who is proficient in CPR
> and I would include them in your birth preperations.  Once the baby is
> born there are two people to be considered and it is reassuring to know
> that there is someone who can care for each in the unlikely event that
> they are needed.  Non birthing people seem to panic at the idea so
> springing it on someone at the last minute is not a good idea but if
> they get to work through the remainder of the pregnancy with you both
> and see that you are making the decision on healthy ideals then they
> will be more comfortable when the time comes.
> What about offering an island holiday to a midwife +/- family around the
> time of birth, Anyway have a great time and keep us informed about the
> plans
> Andrea Quanchi
> On Wednesday, June 11, 2003, at 12:14 PM, Medical Officer wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>> I am at present the sole medical person and midwife on an isolated
>> island where the nearest medical help is seven days away by ship. All
>> mothers over the past 10 years have gone to Auckland to have their
>> babies. I am at present looking after a mother with her second
>> pregnancy (to a new partner) who would like to have this baby on the
>> island where she resides. She had a fairly easy first delivery and
>> this pregnancy has progressed well (she is 24 weeks) with no
>> complications. I am reasonably happy to continue looking after her and
>> delivering on island but I am wondering what other midwives etc. would
>> recommend.
>> Any feedback on this would be great.
>> Thanks,
>> Lyle
>

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Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Isolated birth

[Ross W Timbs]

Jan,
Could I have a copy of your birth plan too please.
Jacky
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Original Message -
From: "Jan Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Isolated birth



Hi Lyle
You can count me in too if you can get me there! The closest I have ever
been to Pitcairn is Norfolk and that's a long way from you.

However, the reality is that you will probably be unassisted except for the
woman's immediate family and the priority now would be to prepare them all
for a natural birth (if natural birth is unfamiliar to them and you). It is
important to work out the role of each family member in supporting the woman
through her labour and possibly assisting you if unexpected circumstances
occur.

Have you got lots of resources, videos, pictures, books depicting natural
birth so you can all get together and discuss options and prepare this
woman's birth plan with her? Also discuss what will be focused on as pain
management. The woman will do much better without drugs and needs to have a
plan on how she will achieve this.  Verbal analgesia from her family will
help.

I can send you a copy of a really good birth plan electronically that will
guide you in your discussion with this woman if you would like it.
Discussing aspects of the birth plan at each prenatal visit will remind you
to leave no part of the pregnancy, labour/birth and aftercare untouched and
will in fact become your documentation of obtaining informed consent for
your management.

Regards
Jan Robinson

__
 Jan Robinson Phone/fax: 011+ 61+ 2+ 9546 4350
 Independent Midwife Practitioner e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 8 Robin Crescent www:   midwiferyeducation.com.au
 South Hurstville  NSW  2221  National Coordinator, ASIM
__



On 13/6/03 10:00 AM, "Andrea Quanchi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'd say go for it. You obviously both understand the limitations of
> isolation and so long as that is the case then it is ultimately her
> decision.  The woman is better with you than without you.  I am assuming
> that you must have someone else on the island who is proficient in CPR
> and I would include them in your birth preperations.  Once the baby is
> born there are two people to be considered and it is reassuring to know
> that there is someone who can care for each in the unlikely event that
> they are needed.  Non birthing people seem to panic at the idea so
> springing it on someone at the last minute is not a good idea but if
> they get to work through the remainder of the pregnancy with you both
> and see that you are making the decision on healthy ideals then they
> will be more comfortable when the time comes.
> What about offering an island holiday to a midwife +/- family around the
> time of birth, Anyway have a great time and keep us informed about the
> plans
> Andrea Quanchi
> On Wednesday, June 11, 2003, at 12:14 PM, Medical Officer wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>> I am at present the sole medical person and midwife on an isolated
>> island where the nearest medical help is seven days away by ship. All
>> mothers over the past 10 years have gone to Auckland to have their
>> babies. I am at present looking after a mother with her second
>> pregnancy (to a new partner) who would like to have this baby on the
>> island where she resides. She had a fairly easy first delivery and
>> this pregnancy has progressed well (she is 24 weeks) with no
>> complications. I am reasonably happy to continue looking after her and
>> delivering on island but I am wondering what other midwives etc. would
>> recommend.
>> Any feedback on this would be great.
>> Thanks,
>> Lyle
>

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Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Isolated birth

[Mary Murphy]

Jan wrote to Lyle: " I can send you a copy of a really good birth 
plan electronically that willguide you in your discussion with this woman if 
you would like it."
 
Jan, How about sharing this birth plan with all of us?  Cheers, 
MM
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Isolated birth

[Jan Robinson]

Hi Lyle
You can count me in too if you can get me there! The closest I have ever
been to Pitcairn is Norfolk and that's a long way from you.

However, the reality is that you will probably be unassisted except for the
woman's immediate family and the priority now would be to prepare them all
for a natural birth (if natural birth is unfamiliar to them and you). It is
important to work out the role of each family member in supporting the woman
through her labour and possibly assisting you if unexpected circumstances
occur.

Have you got lots of resources, videos, pictures, books depicting natural
birth so you can all get together and discuss options and prepare this
woman's birth plan with her? Also discuss what will be focused on as pain
management. The woman will do much better without drugs and needs to have a
plan on how she will achieve this.  Verbal analgesia from her family will
help.

I can send you a copy of a really good birth plan electronically that will
guide you in your discussion with this woman if you would like it.
Discussing aspects of the birth plan at each prenatal visit will remind you
to leave no part of the pregnancy, labour/birth and aftercare untouched and
will in fact become your documentation of obtaining informed consent for
your management.

Regards
Jan Robinson

__
 Jan Robinson Phone/fax: 011+ 61+ 2+ 9546 4350
 Independent Midwife Practitioner e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 8 Robin Crescent www:   midwiferyeducation.com.au
 South Hurstville  NSW  2221  National Coordinator, ASIM
__



On 13/6/03 10:00 AM, "Andrea Quanchi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'd say go for it. You obviously both understand the limitations of
> isolation and so long as that is the case then it is ultimately her
> decision.  The woman is better with you than without you.  I am assuming
> that you must have someone else on the island who is proficient in CPR
> and I would include them in your birth preperations.  Once the baby is
> born there are two people to be considered and it is reassuring to know
> that there is someone who can care for each in the unlikely event that
> they are needed.  Non birthing people seem to panic at the idea so
> springing it on someone at the last minute is not a good idea but if
> they get to work through the remainder of the pregnancy with you both
> and see that you are making the decision on healthy ideals then they
> will be more comfortable when the time comes.
> What about offering an island holiday to a midwife +/- family around the
> time of birth, Anyway have a great time and keep us informed about the
> plans
> Andrea Quanchi
> On Wednesday, June 11, 2003, at 12:14 PM, Medical Officer wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> I am at present the sole medical person and midwife on an isolated
>> island where the nearest medical help is seven days away by ship. All
>> mothers over the past 10 years have gone to Auckland to have their
>> babies. I am at present looking after a mother with her second
>> pregnancy (to a new partner) who would like to have this baby on the
>> island where she resides. She had a fairly easy first delivery and
>> this pregnancy has progressed well (she is 24 weeks) with no
>> complications. I am reasonably happy to continue looking after her and
>> delivering on island but I am wondering what other midwives etc. would
>> recommend.
>> Any feedback on this would be great.
>> Thanks,
>> Lyle
> 

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Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Isolated birth

[Andrea Quanchi]

I'd say go for it. You obviously both understand the limitations of isolation and so long as that is the case then it is ultimately her decision.  The woman is better with you than without you.  I am assuming that you must have someone else on the island who is proficient in CPR and I would include them in your birth preperations.  Once the baby is born there are two people to be considered and it is reassuring to know that there is someone who can care for each in the unlikely event that they are needed.  Non birthing people seem to panic at the idea so springing it on someone at the last minute is not a good idea but if they get to work through the remainder of the pregnancy with you both and see that you are making the decision on healthy ideals then they will be more comfortable when the time comes.
What about offering an island holiday to a midwife +/- family around the time of birth, Anyway have a great time and keep us informed about the plans
Andrea Quanchi
On Wednesday, June 11, 2003, at 12:14 PM, Medical Officer wrote:

Hi everyone,
I am at present the sole medical person and midwife on an isolated island where the nearest medical help is seven days away by ship. All mothers over the past 10 years have gone to Auckland to have their babies. I am at present looking after a mother with her second pregnancy (to a new partner) who would like to have this baby on the island where she resides. She had a fairly easy first delivery and this pregnancy has progressed well (she is 24 weeks) with no complications. I am reasonably happy to continue looking after her and delivering on island but I am wondering what other midwives etc. would recommend.
Any feedback on this would be great.
Thanks,
Lyle

[ozmidwifery] Re: Isolated birth

[Medical Officer]

Hi everyone,
I am at present the sole medical person and midwife 
on an isolated island where the nearest medical help is seven days away by ship. 
All mothers over the past 10 years have gone to Auckland to have their babies. I 
am at present looking after a mother with her second pregnancy (to a new 
partner) who would like to have this baby on the island where she resides. She 
had a fairly easy first delivery and this pregnancy has progressed well 
(she is 24 weeks) with no complications. I am reasonably happy to continue 
looking after her and delivering on island but I am wondering what other 
midwives etc. would recommend. 
Any feedback on this would be great.
Thanks,
Lyle