RE: Who is using Silverlight?
Michael Hill's external website www.michaelhill.com is an entire silverlight site. Probably doesn't fit into your wizardry comment as it does utilise all the tools available. Ross. Ross McKinnon Michael Hill Jeweller A: 7 Smallwood Place, Murrarie QLD 4172, Australia P: +61 7 31663344 M: +61 413 128877 F: +61 7 33990949 E: ross.mckin...@michaelhill.com.au From: Greg Harris [mailto:g...@harrisconsultinggroup.com] Sent: Tuesday, 27 July 2010 12:22 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Re: Who is using Silverlight? Hi Perry, Thanks for that, I am more focused here on examples of true business applications. Not that video presentation can not be a true business application. Yes there are some in the showcase. But I am thinking more about things like company X developed a Silverlight add in to their line of business application allowing remote data entry or whatever. That is applications that are NOT using all the Silverlight UI wizardry! I feel that there is a real perception problem out there, you have to use all the Silverlight UI wizardry, even for simple line of business applications. Also, if possible, looking for more local stuff. Thanks Greg On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Perry Stathopoulos psta...@gmail.com wrote: Well you have NetFlix on demand in the US that uses Silverlight exclusively for their online streaming. The Beijing and Vancouver Olympics were using Silverlight exclusively for NBC and CTV networks in US and Canada respectively. You then have the showcase here to take a look at: http://www.silverlight.net/showcase/ From: Greg Harris mailto:g...@harrisconsultinggroup.com Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 9:31 PM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Who is using Silverlight? Hi Everybody, I am putting together a presentation on Silverlight for managers, basically a why you should not be afraid of using this technology. There is one area that I am missing information on, that is who is using Silverlight. Question for the group: * Who is using Silverlight in Australia? / Overseas? * What for? * Is there public information available about the project? My interest is more focused on real business applications rather than just cute show off the user interface technology. Thanks Greg Harris ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: Out of memory exceptions in VS2010 with Silverlight 4
I have the same problem on my current client site with WPF / VS2008 / XP 32bit. About 5+ times a day I get an out of memory error when compiling. Only happens after editing in xaml text editor, it has never happened after editing c# code. I have to restart VS and clean the solution. If I don't do a clean the error almost always recurs. I don't have any addins in VS on this machine (powerpack, resharper), which is what some people blame. On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 10:58 AM, ton...@tpg.com.au wrote: Actually compile time and time to run takes a while anyway, so there is plenty of time to do other activities. T. On Fri, Jul 23rd, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Steven Nagy steven.n...@readify.net wrote: Yes but everyone's Facebook status will have been updated during that outage period so its not a total loss... ;) -Original Message- From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of ton...@tpg.com.au Sent: Friday, 23 July 2010 10:21 AM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Out of memory exceptions in VS2010 with Silverlight 4 Hi all, It's Friday, so I thought I would let you know about one issue in our team. Basically, we are running 32-bit Windows XP. The machines have anywhere between 2 and 4GB RAM. Everyone in the team gets System Out Of Memory Exceptions. When that happens, you have wasted the compile time, and then you have to shut down VS2010, start it up, then open up the solution. The solution has a significant number of projects in it. Apparently this problem only happens in 32-bit windows. So for the whole restart process, we have assigned 10 minutes to this procedure. Next we have logged the total crash time for our team of 7 developers (some days people were away, but it ultimately doesn't matter). The times lost are as follows: 14th 240 mins 15th 100 mins 18th 120 mins 19th 60 mins 20th 200 mins 21st 100 mins 22nd 140 mins we have assigned an arbitrary value against the times of $100/hour. So the loss of productivity is 16 hours @ $100/hour = $1600. Hopefully soon these figures will become a significant enough figure to justify an upgrade! Regards, Tony ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: Prism caching dll's
You should be able to set the CacheControlCustom property in IIS for a particular directory, whether the proxies honour it or not is another story. An alternative is to work around the problem from the client side. If you can reproduce the problem (eg it is your ISA server causing the problem ;-) then try accessing one of the offending xaps via your browser. eg: www.yourdomain.com/clientbin/module1.xap You would expect to get the cached version. Then hit ctrl-F5 on the same URL and if you get the correct version, you then know that might be able to work around it by setting the following headers in your webrequest : Cache-Control: no-cache Pragma: no-cache Watch the headers in Fiddler to see what the browser does when you tell it to bypass the cache by hitting ctrl-F5 I don't know if all proxies will honour that either. Of course I am assuming you have control over the webrequest that is fetching your additional modules. On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:31 PM, noonie neale.n...@gmail.com wrote: Stephen, You could enable Content Expiration on the folders that contain the resources. The problem is that some Proxy Servers are configured to ignore what you want :-( -- Regards, noonie On 10 June 2010 16:24, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: but all of the modules have old content. ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML
If the SL app is inside an updatepanel I don't think you will ever win. You could try pagemethods instead of updatepanels perhaps, assuming the legacy permits. I just tried it out for fun. I have two divs, one with a SL app and one with a html button. On clicking the button I hid the SL div, called the page method, and on the page method callback showed the SL div and updated a label in the html div with the time from the server. The SL app definitely didn't reload, as I had a timestamp showing in the xaml side of things that didn't change. On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Jordan Knight jordan.kni...@readify.net wrote: Having it outside was an option i've considered... the problem is that the UI is quite complex with fold out bits etc... so having it float would probably make it look a bit funny. JAK From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien [j...@soulsolutions.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 12:00 PM To: 'ozSilverlight' Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML We talking updatepanels Jordan? You need to make sure you’re SL controls are not within the updatepanel or they are redrawn. The trick we used for the Bing Maps ASP.NET control was to have the update panel just contain some divs used for communication while the large map control sat just outside. This was all encapsulated within the control, the developer didn’t add their own updatepanel. John. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 11:36 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML Hey guys, I have a situation where an existing ASP.NET AJAX based app has a series of SL controls in them. Basically they don't want the SL elements to reload when the ajax controls refresh. I've had a muck around with moving the element in JS, and it can be moved no problem - but it re-initialises the control each time... pretty sure its the browser doing it. Does anyone have any ideas on how I might move an SL control without it re-initialising? Cheers! Jordan. ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: Row index
Maybe you need to take a different approach. You could bind the SelectedItem property of the grid to an appropriate property on whatever class is supplying your ItemsSource / datacontext, depending on how you have it coded. Your details panel could bind to the same property as well, or if it is more complex you could use it as a hook to do what ever you need, such as update whatever it is your details panel binds against in the setter perhaps. Another, less elegant option is to handle the SelectionChanged event of the grid and then use the SelectionChangedEventArgs.AddedItems property to give you a hook as to what the new selected item is, which can then be used to set the datacontext of your details panel. On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Stephen Price step...@littlevoices.com wrote: Hey all, Will someone put me out of my misery and tell me how I can easily get the index of a row in a datagrid? I can't believe there's no way to iterate through the rows in a datagrid. Have been banging my head against a wall all afternoon and I'm done. What I actually want to do is set the datacontext of each Details panel of my datagrid (more specifically another datagrid within each detailpanel) to the same index item as the row. ie collection of itemsources with each itemsource being set to the collection[index] that matches that row's index. hopefully that makes sense to someone. thanks :) Stephen ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: Row index
This may not be appropriate for you situation of course, but I remember reading someone's blog that pointed out that (in wpf / silverlight) the use of a datagrid shouldn't necessarily be an automatic decision for displaying lists of data. The alternative being the ItemsControl and ItemTemplate. In some situations you can create a much more elegant and flexible UI compared with a grid. If you don't need the specific benefits of a datagrid, such as column resizing and reordering, it might be worth ditching the grid altogether. PS. You might need to take some care if you are loading lots of rows into an itemscontrol, in which case some sort of virtualization would be advisable. On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: It's been working with SelectedItem but I've got what seems to be a race condition between two events and sometimes the selected item is not correct. I'm collapsing all of the detailpanels and then either showing or hiding the detail panel that was just clicked, at the same time as using the selected item to filter the results for a datagrid within the details panel. the net result is that sometimes the wrong row gets the data or worse I end up with a Layout loop (seems to be on the datagrids that have a lot of rows). I can't use the datacontext from the row as the data is on the viewmodel itself (property uses linq query to filter the results for the row selected). I think a better way to do this would be the classic master slave, where I have a single grid or list and the selected item decides what to populate in a slave datagrid. that's the behaviour we wanted except that the slave datagrid is show in the row's detail panel (selecting another row via toggle button in another row collapses all other rows and shows the row clicked). Doesnt explain why expanding some of the larger rows gives me a layout loop exception but that could be a different issue (or maybe even a weird bug in the datagrid?) I know there used to be a limit on the number of textboxes you could show on a page, but I read that was fixed in SL3. thanks for the replies, Stephen On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com wrote: Stephen, Could you provide more details about it? An example of the collection of itemssources. The Details Panel already has the same DataContext as the row. I don't understand what you want to do? Is it just a child colleciton and for some reason you want it to use the same index as the parent row? Could the VisualTreeHelper or a Converter help? On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 8:56 PM, ross r...@perenni.com.au wrote: Maybe you need to take a different approach. You could bind the SelectedItem property of the grid to an appropriate property on whatever class is supplying your ItemsSource / datacontext, depending on how you have it coded. Your details panel could bind to the same property as well, or if it is more complex you could use it as a hook to do what ever you need, such as update whatever it is your details panel binds against in the setter perhaps. Another, less elegant option is to handle the SelectionChanged event of the grid and then use the SelectionChangedEventArgs.AddedItems property to give you a hook as to what the new selected item is, which can then be used to set the datacontext of your details panel. On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Stephen Price step...@littlevoices.com wrote: Hey all, Will someone put me out of my misery and tell me how I can easily get the index of a row in a datagrid? I can't believe there's no way to iterate through the rows in a datagrid. Have been banging my head against a wall all afternoon and I'm done. What I actually want to do is set the datacontext of each Details panel of my datagrid (more specifically another datagrid within each detailpanel) to the same index item as the row. ie collection of itemsources with each itemsource being set to the collection[index] that matches that row's index. hopefully that makes sense to someone. thanks :) Stephen ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list
Re: You can't set Global Styles right?
In WPF you can do this in say your app.xaml or in a merged dictionary:
Application.Resources
Style TargetType=Button
Setter Property=Background Value=Red/
/Style
/Application.Resources
And all buttons will be red unless the style is overridden.
This doesn't work in Silverlight 3. You have to name the style then
reference it as a static resource:
Style TargetType=Button x:Name=buttonStyle
Setter Property=Background Value=Red/
/Style
Button Style={StaticResource buttonStyle}/Button
Of course you can do this via the UI in Blend as well.
I think it might be possible to set implicit styles in Silverlight 4
but haven't tried.
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@readify.net wrote:
In WPF you can set global styles but in SIlverlight it's right+click+Apply
Style right? ie i'm not high in thinking that am I?
J
___
ozsilverlight mailing list
ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
___
ozsilverlight mailing list
ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: Real time updates to and from clients
Interesting. Do you know, does Silverlight 4: Duplex WCF over TCP have any issues with server affinity in a web farm / load balancing configuration? I believe that might be an issue with Duplex WCF over http. On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Peter Gfader peter.gfa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list I just give you a quick update on this.. PeterG: WCF net.tcp protocol in Silverlight 4 (Polling over TCP Sockets) I have to correct my self here. This is not the case, WCF is not polling over TCP sockets, but keeping a socket open and using that to send and receive messages... awesome performance... Initially I started typing up an email, then I was thinking: Hey put this on your blog and get some traffic on it... So here is the blog post http://peitor.blogspot.com/2010/03/time-communication-clientserver.html Content here We are building something similar and have the following requirements People on the web should be able to use it No download of an application Broadcasting messages to all user (server to clients) Everyone should be able to use it People behind firewalls, proxies, NATs, … People with 1 of the current browsers Lightweight solution needed We tested and verified different technology options like: HTML+ Reverse AJAX Silverlight 2: Duplex WCF over HTTP (Long polling HTTP connection under the hood or Comet-style) Silverlight 4: Duplex WCF over TCP (is using net.tcp, socket connection under the hood) Silverlight raw Sockets (maybe even using SocketsLight) Silverlight UDP HTML 5 web sockets The signs for HTML 5 web sockets are not so good, even though the promise for the socket implementation sounds interesting! But it seems that HTML 5 is not going to be ready before ~201X, X 2 and not sure what that X is… More here http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/programming-and-development/?p=718 http://www.webmonkey.com/blog/HTML_5_Won_t_Be_Ready_Until_2022DOT_Yes__2022DOT We finally are using Silverlight with Duplex WCF over TCP” And falling back to Silverlight with Duplex WCF over HTTP” when we have a firewall or proxy in the middle that causes connection problems. The main reason for going in that direction was: Ease of development and productivity in coding with Silverlight and WCF Developing against one API (WCF) and doing an easy fallback behind the scenes (10 lines of code!) Performance is awesome by using TCP (see Tomasz post about that) Testing Silverlight means testing 1 environment against testing different browsers, operating systems, JavaScript versions, OS versions, browser versions, PS There is a new HTTP polling duplex mode added in Silverlight 4 RC, called “MultipleMessagesPerPoll”, makes this technology even more interesting .peter.gfader. http://peitor.blogspot.com/ http://twitter.com/peitor On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 7:10 PM, Peter Gfader peter.gfa...@gmail.com wrote: In Silverlight 3 didn’t they introduce a duplex WCF service? Yes they introduced duplex WCF services, but it is doing long polling under the hood... Messages from the server to the client within a particular session are sent using an HTTP response to a long lasting HTTP request the client makes to the server (the “long poll”). The client side implementation of the polling duplex protocol ensures that the server always has such pending HTTP request available; as soon as the server sends a message to the client using the response to the long poll, the client issues a new long poll. From http://tomasz.janczuk.org/2009/09/scale-out-of-silverlight-http-polling.html .peter.gfader. http://peitor.blogspot.com/ On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 4:17 PM, John OBrien j...@soulsolutions.com.au wrote: Peter, We used sockets in Silverlight2 to prototype a spatial collaboration concept. The main issues we faced were: 1. Needed to run a windows application (testing=console app, production=windows service) for both server side processing and also as a policy service. Made it hard to deploy. 2. Very raw technology, we had to deal with packets of data and worried about robustness of the server solution under heavy load. In the end we didn’t move beyond the prototype but decided we need to evaluate the purchase of a socket based communication server (often used for online games). In Silverlight 3 didn’t they introduce a duplex WCF service? John. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Peter Gfader Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2010 1:33 PM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Real time updates to and from clients Hi All, I play around with real time updates to and from SL clients, and have figured out a couple of possibilities with Silverlight. Sockets Polling over WCF in SL2 or SL3 (HTTP) WCF net.tcp protocol in Silverlight 4 (Polling over TCP Sockets) Anyone has some good or bad experience with them? Regarding
Re: Real time updates to and from clients
Thanks for that. Those articles cover the topic well. I had figured out that was an issue for Silverlight 3 / WCF when in a hobby project I implemented a turn based game server (eg live chess) using duplex wcf. I had pondered whether my implementation would scale out, and had concluded it would not without a change in approach. I was actually wondering if polling over sockets might help address that issue , as perhaps a particular client would have affinity with the initial server to which the socket was established? Or is that not the case? Assuming there is affinity with sockets, I suppose that leaves two options : 1. Some sort of shared state between the servers, as suggested by those articles. With the incumbent performance loss. or 2. Once a 'chat' between two clients is being negotiated, both clients could be forced onto the same server (assuming that is possible). On , Peter Gfader peter.gfa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Do you know, does Silverlight 4: Duplex WCF over TCP have any issues with server affinity in a web farm / load balancing configuration? Yes this issue is there from http://tomasz.janczuk.org/2009/08/performance-of-http-polling-duplex.html Current implementation of polling duplex protocol in Silverlight 3 requires client affinity to a particular physical server machine for the lifetime of the WCF channel (WCF proxy). Moreover, the server maintains in-memory state for the duration of the session with the client. If you are using a load balancer that cannot guarantee client affinity to a particular backend, or if your hosting infrastructure cannot guarantee that the service will keep running on the same machine, the protocol will fail. In the practice of load balanced web farms, the Silverlight polling duplex protocol in the current form does not scale out well. Scale out solution to this problem here ... http://tomasz.janczuk.org/2009/09/scale-out-of-silverlight-http-polling.html And porting that scalable solution to the cloud http://blogs.msdn.com/ales/archive/2009/09/22/scalable-duplex-messaging-with-silverlight-3-and-windows-azure.aspx .peter.gfader. http://peitor.blogspot.com/ http://twitter.com/peitor On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 5:44 PM, ross r...@perenni.com.au wrote: Interesting. Do you know, does Silverlight 4: Duplex WCF over TCP have any issues with server affinity in a web farm / load balancing configuration? I believe that might be an issue with Duplex WCF over http. On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Peter Gfader peter.gfa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list I just give you a quick update on this.. PeterG: WCF net.tcp protocol in Silverlight 4 (Polling over TCP Sockets) I have to correct my self here. This is not the case, WCF is not polling over TCP sockets, but keeping a socket open and using that to send and receive messages... awesome performance... Initially I started typing up an email, then I was thinking: Hey put this on your blog and get some traffic on it... So here is the blog post http://peitor.blogspot.com/2010/03/time-communication-clientserver.html Content here We are building something similar and have the following requirements People on the web should be able to use it No download of an application Broadcasting messages to all user (server to clients) Everyone should be able to use it People behind firewalls, proxies, NATs, … People with 1 of the current browsers Lightweight solution needed We tested and verified different technology options like: HTML+ Reverse AJAX Silverlight 2: Duplex WCF over HTTP (Long polling HTTP connection under the hood or Comet-style) Silverlight 4: Duplex WCF over TCP (is using net.tcp, socket connection under the hood) Silverlight raw Sockets (maybe even using SocketsLight) Silverlight UDP HTML 5 web sockets The signs for HTML 5 web sockets are not so good, even though the promise for the socket implementation sounds interesting! But it seems that HTML 5 is not going to be ready before ~201X, X 2 and not sure what that X is… More here http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/programming-and-development/?p=718 http://www.webmonkey.com/blog/HTML_5_Won_t_Be_Ready_Until_2022DOT_Yes__2022DOT We finally are using Silverlight with Duplex WCF over TCP” And falling back to Silverlight with Duplex WCF over HTTP” when we have a firewall or proxy in the middle that causes connection problems. The main reason for going in that direction was: Ease of development and productivity in coding with Silverlight and WCF Developing against one API (WCF) and doing an easy fallback behind the scenes (10 lines of code!) Performance is awesome by using TCP (see Tomasz post about that) Testing Silverlight means testing 1 environment against testing different browsers, operating systems, JavaScript versions, OS versions
RE: RE: RE: Silverlight site.
I must admit, I was underwhelmed. Ross McKinnon Michael Hill Jeweller A: 7 Smallwood Place, Murrarie QLD 4172, Australia P: +61 7 31663344 M: +61 413 128877 F: +61 7 33990949 E: ross.mckin...@michaelhill.com.au From: carl.scarl...@bankwest.com.au [mailto:carl.scarl...@bankwest.com.au] Sent: Friday, 12 March 2010 11:19 AM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: RE: RE: RE: Silverlight site. I’d go even further than that. I’ve never worked for Microsoft so I don’t have a feel for the internal political struggles. My comments are purely as a developer. History tells us one of Microsoft’s greatest strengths lies in the creation and support of developer communities. From the dawn of (MS) time with Geekfest, throughout the monkey-boy Balmer days and until today, Microsoft’s mantra has been “developers developers developers developers developers...”. The developer community now has a life of it’s own, yet remains a cornerstone of Microsoft’s success. And Microsoft continues to innovate such that the community grows stronger, broader, and can react quicker than any other developer community. It’s an amazing thing to be a part of. Given all that, it is such a fantastic shame that Microsoft can’t get it together (and put the icing on the cake) as far as their developer product websites go. Somehow during the design of these sites, the message seems to become lost that developers are wonderful craftsmen and women with an insatiable desire for technical detail. It’s the ultimate let-down that we can’t point to a Microsoft showcase site and say “this is what it’s all about”; instead we are ignore these dungheap sites Microsoft deploy every now and again and focus back inwards to our communities a little embarrassed by it all. I’m a proud Microsoft developer and I do love the company. But websites like this take a little bit of the shine off my pride when I know it could be just that much better. Hopefully this hasn’t been the ramblings of old hand. I will continue to love the company, and hope for the day I can come out as such. My opinions are my own yadda yadda yadda, Carl. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes scott.bar...@readify.net Sent: Thursday, 11 March 2010 11:50 PM To: ozSilverlight ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: RE: RE: RE: Silverlight site. My vote is to fold mscom/expression and mscom/silverlight into Silverlight.NET Tim is touching only the tip of the iceberg, as having 4 sites all talking about the same thing is just counter-productive and it kind of makes me chuckle a bit as given the problem of XAML was to ensure both sides of the isle (developer - designer) collaborate. Yet the first thing Microsoft does is segregate the audiences? J It retards the potential for skill pollination (teach devs to design, and devs teach design to code etc) and if anything all it really does is bolster internal political and egos within (currently 4 factions duking it out over ownership rights :D) Now the stark reality is most sites in Microsoft only follow a typical quantitative analysis for their given sites, which is essentially a popularity contest in terms of traffic. Yet, the closer i looked at the data the more I saw nobody was really doing a qualitative analysis as had they done that, they'd see about 80% of the sites are actually utter failures and are offering zero value to their consumer base J ..as long as the graphs keep ascending to the upper right, it's no questions asked... Silverlight.NET is really the only site that has value, the rest are just mediocrity being celebrated out loud. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Tim Heuer Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 1:40 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: RE: RE: Silverlight site. Welcome to the world of MSFT ;-0 Microsof.com/product are usually ‘marketing’ sites – displaying decision-maker information and case studies, etc. Silverlight.net serves as a developer community resources: forums, learning resources, samples, etc. -- *for developers* -th Tim Heuer | +1 (602) 405-4567 | Microsoft Silverlight blog: http://timheuer.com/blog/ http://timheuer.com/blog/ | twitter: @timheuer http://twitter.com/timheuer From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Vishwanath Humpy Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 11:28 PM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Re: RE: RE: Silverlight site. What is the story with http://silverlight.net/ ? . Will it disappear? On a positive note it did enlighten me to the silverlight partner program. I haven't heard about that before. It sounds good, unless you fail to ship a site within 90 days :-) On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:50:25 +0530 wrote My thoughts
RE: Old silverlight runtime installers
Thanks for that.
I've reproduced the problem and it seems to be the onError attribute.
As I mentioned previously, I am doing a custom install experience.
It seems that if the client machine already has 2.0.40115.0 or
2.0.31005.0 (and perhaps others), and you have the configuration
following, IE crashes. Firefox works fine :
param name=onError value=onSilverlightError /
param name=autoUpgrade value=false /
Jscript:
function onSilverlightError(sender, args) {
if (args.ErrorCode == 8001) {
try {
document.getElementById(silverlightControlHost).innerHTML =
PromptUpgrade;
}
catch (err) { }
}
else {
A while ago I figured out that the following event is not always fired,
and that you have to handle the 8001 error, which also indicates an
upgrade is required.
Silverlight.onUpgradeRequired = function() {
document.getElementById(silverlightControlHost).innerHTML
= PromptUpgrade;
};
I am now trying to work out if a different error code is being
generated.
Does anyone have any ideas?
From: Tim Heuer [mailto:timhe...@microsoft.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 11 November 2009 1:59 AM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Old silverlight runtime installers
You can find installers to previous versions listed here:
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=92598
-th
Tim Heuer | (602) 405-4567 | Microsoft Silverlight
blog: http://timheuer.com/blog/ http://timheuer.com/blog/ | twitter:
@timheuer http://twitter.com/timheuer
From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Ross
Jempson
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 10:06 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: FW: Old silverlight runtime installers
Hi there,
We are deploying a SL 3 app and had IE crash on a few machines which had
old versions of SL installed, there was a non-descript error from
agcore.dll . It happened on both ie6 and ie7.
The problem versions seem to be :
- 2.0.31005.0
- 2.0.40115.0
I want to diagnose the problem further, and to start I would like to be
able to install those versions on a test machine. However I don't seem
to be able to find the installers on the web.
I tried passing the relevant version numbers , eg
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=149156v=2.0.31005.0 however it
serves me up SL 3.
Also, the problem doesn't surface if I do a simple default SL
application, with AutoUpgrade=true. I am doing a custom upgrade
experience.
It might not be the cause, but I have
autoUpgrade = false
And I am using the following additional attributes above the default
template:
initParams
onLoad
AllowHtmlPopupWindow
Windowless - false
EnableRedrawRegions - false (I can remove this one it was just for
testing)
Splashscreensource
onSourceDownloadProgressChanged
I was going to test to see if any of these was the cause, but can't do
it without first installing the older versions.
Cheers.
Ross
__
This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System.
For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email
__
___
ozsilverlight mailing list
ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
RE: Determining what is causing high CPU usage
I was contemplating a somewhat similar thing a few days ago. Except I want to look for potential memory leaks. I have used a couple of tools in the past, including the Ants profiler. However I discovered that the Silverlight framework doesn't implement a profiling interface as per the full framework. http://www.red-gate.com/supportcenter/Content.aspx?p=ANTS%20Performance% 20Profilerc=knowledgebase\ANTS_Performance_Profiler\KB200809000306.htm It is a bit of a tangent, but you could also try an idea suggested on this list by Seema Ramchandani. You can set param name=EnableRedrawRegions value=true / in your plugin object. When I did this I was surprised to notice that a background image I hadn't considered was being constantly redrawn when a unrelated animation was in progress on the same screen. From: John OBrien [mailto:j...@soulsolutions.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2009 11:41 AM To: 'ozSilverlight' Subject: Determining what is causing high CPU usage Hey guys does anyone have a good technique to determine exactly what is causing high CPU usage inside a Silverlight control? The example today was a ProgressBar with IsIndeterminate set to true causes a MultiScaleImage control to go crazy (40-70% CPU). Even worse is even after you hide the progressbar it never stops. MultiScaleImage Source=GeneratedImages/dzc_output.xml / ProgressBar x:Name=progress IsIndeterminate=True Width=400 Height=25 / My current solution is simple trial and error to find the cause, and then remove the offending control. Silverlight Spy showed an infinite amount of LayoutUpdated being fired, but I can't seem to get more information. Any good tools out there? I've found ProcessExplorer is awesome for monitoring the CPU usage / memory. John. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
RE: Do we upgrade to Silverlight3 on our dev machines?
Scott says, its all backwards compatible, so you should be ok. But we might have had a few, so, use your own judgement -Original Message- From: John OBrien j...@soulsolutions.com.au Sent: Friday, 10 July 2009 6:34 PM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Do we upgrade to Silverlight3 on our dev machines? It's getting late on Friday I know but did I miss a post about what happens when we upgrade to Silverlight3 as developers? It's awesome that the runtime is backwards compatible so existing sites won't break but... 1) Can we still target Silverlight2 in Visual Studio? 2) What happens to our corporate clients without admin rights, do we need to get their IT guys to update? John. Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
RE: ado.net data services query filtering
That seems like a reasonable suggestion.
I had considered writing it as linq, but assumed it would have the same
problem. I didn't realise you could check the rest URL, thanks.
From: Asheesh Soni [mailto:asheeshs...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, 10 July 2009 1:47 PM
To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
Subject: Re: ado.net data services query filtering
Why don't you simply write a linq query and let it do the translation
for you?
And if you are curious, you can set a break point and see what REST url
it is using to get the results.
Or have I missed something really obvious and made a fool of myself?
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Ross Jempson
ross.jemp...@michaelhill.com.au wrote:
Hi there,
This might be slightly off topic, but I'll try my luck.
I am trying to figure out whether I can filter on child collections of
an ado.net data services query in a Silverlight app.
For example, the following examples work nicely, and are good for
performance as I don't need round trips to the server when populating
child entity collections:
this.DataContext.BeginExecuteScreen(new
Uri(Screen?$expand=ScreenMenuItem/ScreenMenuItemCountry,ScreenBackgroun
dImage,ScreenVideoSubstituteImage,ScreenCountryText,ScreenCountryVideo,
UriKind.Relative),
ScreenLookupDataCallback, this.DataContext);
this.DataContext.BeginExecuteMainMenuItemCountry(new
Uri(string.Format(MainMenuItemCountry?$expand=MainMenuItem/Screen$filt
er=CountryId eq {0}, _loc.ApplicationSettings.CountryId),
UriKind.Relative),
MainMenuItemsDataCallback, this.DataContext);
Notice in the second query I am filtering the 'MainMenuItemCountry' by
CountryId. Note how this filter is against the top level entity.
I would like to do the same thing in the first query, but I want to
filter by country for the ScreenMenuItem/ScreenMenuItemCountry entities.
Eg something like
this.DataContext.BeginExecuteScreen(new
Uri(Screen?$expand=ScreenMenuItem/ScreenMenuItemCountry,ScreenBackgroun
dImage,ScreenVideoSubstituteImage,ScreenCountryText,ScreenCountryVideo$
filter= ScreenMenuItem/ScreenMenuItemCountry/CountryId eq 61 ,
UriKind.Relative),
ScreenLookupDataCallback, this.DataContext);
However, this results in a bad request. The following link implies it
is not possible to filter the 'expanded' child collection, but I can't
be sure. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc668778.aspx
Has anyone tried this?
Cheers.
Ross
Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support
List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
mailto:ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com
mailto:ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com
Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com
mailto:ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com
List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight
http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight
Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
http://www.codify.com/lists
Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support
List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
mailto:ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com
mailto:ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com
Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com
mailto:ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com
List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight
http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight
Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
http://www.codify.com/lists
Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support
List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com
Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com
List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight
Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
ado.net data services query filtering
Hi there,
This might be slightly off topic, but I'll try my luck.
I am trying to figure out whether I can filter on child collections of
an ado.net data services query in a Silverlight app.
For example, the following examples work nicely, and are good for
performance as I don't need round trips to the server when populating
child entity collections:
this.DataContext.BeginExecuteScreen(new
Uri(Screen?$expand=ScreenMenuItem/ScreenMenuItemCountry,ScreenBackgroun
dImage,ScreenVideoSubstituteImage,ScreenCountryText,ScreenCountryVideo,
UriKind.Relative),
ScreenLookupDataCallback, this.DataContext);
this.DataContext.BeginExecuteMainMenuItemCountry(new
Uri(string.Format(MainMenuItemCountry?$expand=MainMenuItem/Screen$filt
er=CountryId eq {0}, _loc.ApplicationSettings.CountryId),
UriKind.Relative),
MainMenuItemsDataCallback, this.DataContext);
Notice in the second query I am filtering the 'MainMenuItemCountry' by
CountryId. Note how this filter is against the top level entity.
I would like to do the same thing in the first query, but I want to
filter by country for the ScreenMenuItem/ScreenMenuItemCountry entities.
Eg something like
this.DataContext.BeginExecuteScreen(new
Uri(Screen?$expand=ScreenMenuItem/ScreenMenuItemCountry,ScreenBackgroun
dImage,ScreenVideoSubstituteImage,ScreenCountryText,ScreenCountryVideo$
filter= ScreenMenuItem/ScreenMenuItemCountry/CountryId eq 61 ,
UriKind.Relative),
ScreenLookupDataCallback, this.DataContext);
However, this results in a bad request. The following link implies it
is not possible to filter the 'expanded' child collection, but I can't
be sure. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc668778.aspx
Has anyone tried this?
Cheers.
Ross
Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support
List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com
Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com
List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight
Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
RE: Silverlight Binding Expressions
Assuming the binding is one-way, and you 'own' the model to which you
are binding, can't you extend it and create a derived property there?
Lets say you were binding to a Person class
public string Firstname { get; set; }
public string LastName { get; set; }
public string FullName
{
get { return Firstname + + LastName; }
set { }
}
Textblock Text={Binding FullName
From: Asheesh Soni [mailto:asheeshs...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 19 May 2009 10:37 AM
To: OzSilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
Subject: Silverlight Binding Expressions
Hello
I have a very trivial problem, but all the solutions to it seem to be a
bit of an overkill. Just looking for a simple solution
So here's the problem: Bind a Textblock to more than one field (or a
string and a field)
For example: Textblock Text={Binding FirstName + + LastName} /
Or, Textblock Text={Binding You are logged in as: + {LoginName}} /
I know the following solutions already:
1. Have two Textblocks with clean and simple bindings.
2. Use a Converter (with ConvertBack for two way binding).
3. Use Xambda (Yeah, I mean a Generic Lambda Converter used in Xaml with
a Lambda expression)
References for Xambda:
http://www.fikrimvarnet/lestirelim/?p=15
http://www.fikrimvar.net/lestirelim/?p=15
http://marlongrech.wordpress.com/2008/02/10/embed-code-in-xaml/
And I know advocates of Designer/Developer work flow will argue that
embedding complex expressions in Xaml defeats the whole purpose and
leads to the bad (or good) old days of spaghetti code. But I guess,
having trivial code in Xaml (eg {FirstName} + {LastName}) shouldn't
really be a problem.
Basically, All I need is a built-in, in-line Converter for one-way
binding in Xaml, without having to create my own one line Converters for
such trivial transformations.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Soni
Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support
List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
mailto:ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com
mailto:ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com
Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com
mailto:ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com
List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight
http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight
Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
http://www.codify.com/lists
__
This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System.
For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email
__
Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support
List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com
Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com
List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight
Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
RE: Adaptive streaming
Good point. That is up in the air. The stakeholders are adamant they don't want to let the user skip or mute the video. My feeling is that we should let the user control volume and skip, but certainly we don't want play / pause buttons and we don't want any sort of frame around the video as this will affect the aesthetic. -Original Message- From: Barry Beattie [mailto:barry.beat...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 19 May 2009 11:32 AM To: OzSilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Re: Adaptive streaming @Ross no UI? does that include no audio level control? On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Ross Jempson ross.jemp...@michaelhill.com.au wrote: Hi there, I was wondering if anyone has implemented a custom media player using adaptive streaming in a SL client? I have the IIS side up and running, and have deployed a test page using a player generated by Expression encoder. It performs beautifully on a hosted virtual server in the wild, although we haven't done any load testing yet. My requirement is that I have to show streaming video, but where the user doesn't have control over playing / pausing ... , therefore I don't want to show the normal player style UI. The video will be run in full screen when the user first hits a screen then will fade and keep running in the background. I haven't found a player that doesn't have a UI or lets me hide the UI. Eg http://www.openvideoplayer.com/ looks good but I couldn't work out how to hide the UI. I found the source code for one of the players - C:\Program Files\Microsoft Expression\Encoder 2\Templates\en\SL2Standard\Source and figured out roughly how it works. The key is a project/dll AdaptiveStreaming.dll that does the hard work. I referenced AdapativeStreaming.dll and wired it up how I expected but it didn't work on my first attempt. I haven't had time to go back and look at it further, and don't expect you guys to debug my app. I am looking for advice : 1. Does anyone know of a player I can use that has no UI or the UI can be hidden? 2. Or, am I on the right track using the Encoder's AdaptiveStreaming library? 3. If the answer to 2 is Yes, Is it legal for me to use the AdaptiveStreaming library? I expect so, given the source code is distributed but thought I would ask. Cheers. Ross Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
RE: Adaptive streaming
Yes, I am planning to use a basic media element.
I tried code below, but it basically just showed a blank screen. I
tried a couple of things like AutoPlay = true / false
I haven't had time to look at it again, but was mostly wondering if I
was on the right track.
Cheers.
Ross
MediaElement AutoPlay=False IsMuted=False Grid.Row=0
x:Name=melMain HorizontalAlignment=Stretch
VerticalAlignment=Stretch/
public IMediaStreamSourceFactory MediaStreamSourceFactory { get; set; }
private MediaStreamSource m_mediaStreamSource;
...
this.MediaStreamSourceFactory = new AdaptiveStreamingSourceFactory();
...
m_mediaStreamSource = MediaStreamSourceFactory.Create(melMain, new
Uri(http://mydomain.com.au/Big_Buck_Bunny/Big Buck
Bunny.ism/Manifest));
...
melMain.SetSource(m_mediaStreamSource);
melMain.Position = TimeSpan.Zero;
melMain.Play();
/// summary
/// Adpative streaming object factory
/// /summary
internal class AdaptiveStreamingSourceFactory :
IMediaStreamSourceFactory
{
/// summary
/// Creates a MediaStreamSource object.
/// /summary
/// param name=mediaElementThe MediaElement to host the
stream./param
/// param name=uriThe string providing the network location
of the video to be streamed/param
/// returnsThe new MediaStreamSource object/returns
public virtual MediaStreamSource Create(MediaElement
mediaElement, Uri uri)
{
return new AdaptiveStreamingSource(mediaElement, uri);
}
}
From: Jordan Knight [mailto:jordan.kni...@readify.net]
Sent: Tuesday, 19 May 2009 11:32 AM
To: OzSilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
Subject: RE: Adaptive streaming
Hey Ross,
Is the MediaElement in it's raw form no good?
The basic process is (and from my research it's not particularly well
documented at this stage) is that you need to take the MediaStreamSource
class (cannt remember its name) from the AdaptiveStreaming.dll and use
it to load the video from your server.
I know I'm being terribly vague I'm sorry, I've done this once before
but I cannot for the life of me find the sample code.
From: OzSilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
[mailto:ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Ross Jempson
Sent: Tuesday, 19 May 2009 11:09 AM
To: OzSilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
Subject: Adaptive streaming
Hi there,
I was wondering if anyone has implemented a custom media player using
adaptive streaming in a SL client? I have the IIS side up and running,
and have deployed a test page using a player generated by Expression
encoder. It performs beautifully on a hosted virtual server in the
wild, although we haven't done any load testing yet.
My requirement is that I have to show streaming video, but where the
user doesn't have control over playing / pausing ... , therefore I don't
want to show the normal player style UI. The video will be run in full
screen when the user first hits a screen then will fade and keep running
in the background.
I haven't found a player that doesn't have a UI or lets me hide the UI.
Eg http://www.openvideoplayer.com/ looks good but I couldn't work out
how to hide the UI.
I found the source code for one of the players - C:\Program
Files\Microsoft Expression\Encoder 2\Templates\en\SL2Standard\Source and
figured out roughly how it works. The key is a project/dll
AdaptiveStreaming.dll that does the hard work.
I referenced AdapativeStreaming.dll and wired it up how I expected but
it didn't work on my first attempt. I haven't had time to go back and
look at it further, and don't expect you guys to debug my app.
I am looking for advice :
1. Does anyone know of a player I can use that has no UI or the UI
can be hidden?
2. Or, am I on the right track using the Encoder's
AdaptiveStreaming library?
3. If the answer to 2 is Yes, Is it legal for me to use the
AdaptiveStreaming library? I expect so, given the source code is
distributed but thought I would ask.
Cheers.
Ross
Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support
List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
mailto:ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com
mailto:ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com
Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com
mailto:ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com
List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight
http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight
Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
http://www.codify.com/lists
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 8.5.329 / Virus Database: 270.12.32/2118 - Release Date:
05/16/09 17:05:00
__
This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System.
For more information
RE: Silverlight reach on Mobile devices
I am sure in the future of mobile devices, one platform that is derived off C# will be of great importance. I am curious though whether SL will have access to the hardware device will be available (ie imei number, device ID and other functions of the phone). Ross. -Original Message- From: Jordan Knight [mailto:jordan.kni...@readify.net] Sent: Monday, 2 March 2009 8:57 AM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: RE: Silverlight reach on Mobile devices Bragging rights?? :P -Original Message- From: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Parker Sent: Monday, 2 March 2009 9:55 AM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Re: Silverlight reach on Mobile devices Sorry. I accidentally hit the send button. I heard in a video (can't remember where) that the mobile team are keen to sync up with the desktop team with their releases of SL so maybe 3.0 will have both, though I'm not sure about the usefulness of HD video on a phone! On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Jonathan Parker jonathanparkerem...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Steven Berry steven.be...@stargategroup.com.au wrote: Hi Jonathan, With all of Mobile 6.5 information coming out and Mix with Silverlight 3 I've noticed Silverlight mobile taken a back seat at the moment. Fingers crossed we get to see this at Mix. Steve -Original Message- From: Jonathan Parker [mailto:jonathanparkerem...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 2 March 2009 9:49 AM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Re: Silverlight reach on Mobile devices Still in private beta: http://silverlight.net/learn/mobile.aspx However I wouldn't be surprised to see something at Mix about it. On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 9:39 AM, darren.nei...@live.com wrote: Hi all... I'm going to show my ignorance here (what's new ) but... what is the Silverlight 'reach' on mobile devices? Kind Regards, Darren Neimke - Microsoft MVP darren.nei...@live.com blog: http://neimke.spaces.live.com twitter: http://twitter.com/digory mob: 0439 855 046 Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists - --- Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists - - This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. No responsibility is assumed by the company or its employee to any other person for any loss or damage (whether caused by negligence or not) arising from the use of the information and advice contained herein. Finally, it is your responsibility to check any attachments for viruses and defects before opening or sending them on. - - - --- Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists -- -- Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG
