sync problem

2006-07-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
i created an application and when i tried installing it on the device using 
hotsync, it hangs up on the cleaning up process.  it shows cleaning up, please 
wait.. and it shows it forever.  what could possibly cause this problem?

Thanks,
Emilio Young
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Re: Creator ID to use for a tutorial...

2006-07-24 Thread P. Douglas Reeder


On Jul 23, 2006, at 8:43 PM, Brian Gupta wrote:



The question is what creator ID should I tell people to use in the
tutorial/ walk through?

1) STRT
2) Register their own
3) One that we will register for use with this tutorial
4) The real application's Creator ID



In my not-so-humble opinion, 1, 3 and 4 are all good solutions.  While 
the namespace of creator IDs is larger than any plausible number of 
Palm applications ever, the number of memorable/pronounceable ID is 
much smaller, so I'd rather IDs weren't registered for applications 
that will never be published.  If you go with #3, perhaps the best 
option, your fellow developers will appreciate it if you pick something 
forgettable.


For my throwaway apps that no one else will ever see, I use a random 
unpronounceable combination of punctuation marks, such as '@#$%'.


Doug Reeder
Cognitive  Systematic Musicology Lab
OSU School of Music


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Re: sync problem

2006-07-24 Thread P. Douglas Reeder


On Jul 24, 2006, at 5:47 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

i created an application and when i tried installing it on the device 
using hotsync, it hangs up on the cleaning up process.  it shows 
cleaning up, please wait.. and it shows it forever.  what could 
possibly cause this problem?




One common cause of this is code in PilotMain, outside of the block 
executed on sysAppLaunchCmdNormalLaunch.


During the cleaning phase, the sysAppLaunchCmdSyncNotify launch code is 
sent to the app, as installation is considered a change of the app 
database.  You don't have globals in this launch, so global variable 
access will fail, as will things like inter-segment function calls.



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RE: Creator ID to use for a tutorial...

2006-07-24 Thread Carmine Castiglia
I'd like to jump in on this, speaking as an occasional developer of
PalmOS apps and a long-time user of Palm hardware.

What is the primary function of Creator ID's?  When all else is put
aside, the most important thing that a Creator ID does is to pull
together the files belonging to an app into a single entity.  Thus, when
one uses the Palm's Delete function to delete a no longer needed app,
the OS also deletes any additional files (databases, etc) which are
associated with the app by nature of having the same Creator ID.

This means that using a random series of characters, or any
non-registered sequence, runs the risk - slight though it may be - that
when your test app is deleted it may also take out other unintended
files as well.   This is not a problem if the only device the test app
is installed on is your own, but if you intend to distribute to even a
samll number of users I think using a registered ID is the only correct
way to go.





-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P. Douglas
Reeder
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 8:42 AM
To: Palm Developer Forum
Subject: Re: Creator ID to use for a tutorial...



On Jul 23, 2006, at 8:43 PM, Brian Gupta wrote:


 The question is what creator ID should I tell people to use in the 
 tutorial/ walk through?

 1) STRT
 2) Register their own
 3) One that we will register for use with this tutorial
 4) The real application's Creator ID


In my not-so-humble opinion, 1, 3 and 4 are all good solutions.  While 
the namespace of creator IDs is larger than any plausible number of 
Palm applications ever, the number of memorable/pronounceable ID is 
much smaller, so I'd rather IDs weren't registered for applications 
that will never be published.  If you go with #3, perhaps the best 
option, your fellow developers will appreciate it if you pick something 
forgettable.

For my throwaway apps that no one else will ever see, I use a random 
unpronounceable combination of punctuation marks, such as '@#$%'.

Doug Reeder
Cognitive  Systematic Musicology Lab
OSU School of Music


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ContactsLib_OpenLibrary() failed.

2006-07-24 Thread V. Sriram
hi,
please help me out on this one.
 i want to access contacts database from my palm app in read only mode. i used 
Contacts.h and used ContactsLib_OpenLibrary(...).
but got the following error:

Debug/AppMain.o(.text+0x64): In function `ContactsLib_OpenLibrary': 
AppMain.c:417: undefined reference to `ContactsLibOpen'

Debug/AppMain.o(.text+0xb2): In function `ContactsLib_CloseLibrary':
AppMain.c:461: undefined reference to `ContactsLibClose'

then i noticed that ContactsLibClose and ContactsLibOpen was not defined 
anywhere. 
so please advice me on what should be done. 
thanks in advance.
sriram
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Re: Creator ID to use for a tutorial...

2006-07-24 Thread Brian Gupta
I think the below is correct:If you install two different applications with the same creator ID, the most recently installed one will overwrite the other during a hotsync. The creator ID is how the Palm differentiates between applications. (It doesn't use the file name or a digital signature).
Cheers,BrianOn 7/24/06, Carmine Castiglia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd like to jump in on this, speaking as an occasional developer ofPalmOS apps and a long-time user of Palm hardware.
What is the primary function of Creator ID's?When all else is putaside, the most important thing that a Creator ID does is to pulltogether the files belonging to an app into a single entity.Thus, when
one uses the Palm's Delete function to delete a no longer needed app,the OS also deletes any additional files (databases, etc) which areassociated with the app by nature of having the same Creator ID.
This means that using a random series of characters, or anynon-registered sequence, runs the risk - slight though it may be - thatwhen your test app is deleted it may also take out other unintended
files as well. This is not a problem if the only device the test appis installed on is your own, but if you intend to distribute to even asamll number of users I think using a registered ID is the only correct
way to go.-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of P. DouglasReederSent: Monday, July 24, 2006 8:42 AMTo: Palm Developer ForumSubject: Re: Creator ID to use for a tutorial...On Jul 23, 2006, at 8:43 PM, Brian Gupta wrote:
 The question is what creator ID should I tell people to use in the tutorial/ walk through? 1) STRT 2) Register their own 3) One that we will register for use with this tutorial
 4) The real application's Creator IDIn my not-so-humble opinion, 1, 3 and 4 are all good solutions.Whilethe namespace of creator IDs is larger than any plausible number ofPalm applications ever, the number of memorable/pronounceable ID is
much smaller, so I'd rather IDs weren't registered for applicationsthat will never be published.If you go with #3, perhaps the bestoption, your fellow developers will appreciate it if you pick somethingforgettable.
For my throwaway apps that no one else will ever see, I use a randomunpronounceable combination of punctuation marks, such as '@#$%'.Doug ReederCognitive  Systematic Musicology LabOSU School of Music
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Re: No of records

2006-07-24 Thread Andrew Scheurer
My question on how many allocations should have been
restated to ask 
What is the maximum total heap for a given
application
I'm not clear as to whether 64K is the total heap for
a given app or whether its the largest single call one
to make to allocate memory. I'm using malloc,free
right now which I think in CodeWarrior is mapped to
MemPtrNew, MemPtrFree and probably the same in GNU.
I'm hoping this depends on the Device, an 8MB device
would presumably over more usable heap than a 4MB
device.

 Is MemSemaphore*
 functions are supported in all m68k devices.
I'd need read/write access for the algorithm and would
use heap for that as it would be variable.

I can't seem to find any informationon MemSemaphore in
Rhodes, McKeehan or Foster. Is this a 68K Palm OS
function?
Evidently this is a trick to get more memory and treat
as dynamic on the Palm. What OS has this function, 3.5
and above.
If I were to allocate the following blocks on a Palm
would it be a problem?
12K
50K
15K
36K
16K
25K
62K
Would the Palm let me do all these allocations in a
single program run?

Thanks for your help.


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Re: POSE crashing when GremlinMinimize...ing

2006-07-24 Thread Troy Lokitz
I'm experiencing this same problem..
Any resolution?
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Re: Creator ID to use for a tutorial...

2006-07-24 Thread Brian Gupta
Doug,#3 was my preferred choice, and I was planning to use something pseudo-random, if I went that route. (I tend to prefer pseudo random myself)One question. Is there any functional purpose to having memorable creator IDs? (What am I missing?) The end user doesn't really look at these do they?
Thanks,BrianOn 7/24/06, P. Douglas Reeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jul 23, 2006, at 8:43 PM, Brian Gupta wrote: The question is what creator ID should I tell people to use in the tutorial/ walk through? 1) STRT 2) Register their own
 3) One that we will register for use with this tutorial 4) The real application's Creator IDIn my not-so-humble opinion, 1, 3 and 4 are all good solutions.Whilethe namespace of creator IDs is larger than any plausible number of
Palm applications ever, the number of memorable/pronounceable ID ismuch smaller, so I'd rather IDs weren't registered for applicationsthat will never be published.If you go with #3, perhaps the bestoption, your fellow developers will appreciate it if you pick something
forgettable.For my throwaway apps that no one else will ever see, I use a randomunpronounceable combination of punctuation marks, such as '@#$%'.Doug ReederCognitive  Systematic Musicology Lab
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Re: sync problem

2006-07-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yes :)
That was exactly the cause of my synchronization problem.

thanks a lot.


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Linker error with new and delete operator.

2006-07-24 Thread babbu cathy
Hello all,

Can anyone give me the solution.

When i try to compile my project in codewarrior 9.3,
it gives me the following linker error message, can
you suggest me to resolve this error ?
Error:
1. operator new(unsigned long) referenced from
myfunction() is undefined.
2. operator delete(void*) referenced from
myfunction() is undefined.


cathy.



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Re: Creator ID to use for a tutorial...

2006-07-24 Thread P. Douglas Reeder


On Jul 24, 2006, at 10:35 AM, Brian Gupta wrote:



One question. Is there any functional purpose to having memorable 
creator IDs? (What am I missing?) The end user doesn't really look at 
these do they?




Only very experienced users, trying to figure out what cryptically 
named databases or preferences are.  When I'm trying to clear out a 
machine with too little storage left, I'd like to not delete anything 
important.  If I find a file created by 'ADBE', I might remember that's 
Adobe Acrobat, if I saw it not too long ago. Likewise 'Aple' and 'Apl2' 
are connected with the Apple II simulator.  But 'KWPi' doesn't ring a 
bell, and 'strt' for IP Subnetter is tough to remember. The file 
manager on Kyocera 7135s could display databases grouped by creator, 
with the application name heading the group. I miss that.


 If you install two different applications with the same creator ID, 
the most recently installed one will overwrite the other during a 
hotsync. The creator ID is how the Palm differentiates between 
applications. (It doesn't use the file name or a digital signature).


Unfortunately, no, HotSync won't overwrite an application unless the 
database name is identical.  Applications with different database names 
but the same creator just confuse Palm OS.  It's hard to recover from 
that situation without deleting both apps.



Doug Reeder
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Re: Creator ID to use for a tutorial...

2006-07-24 Thread Aaron Ardiri

On 7/24/06, Brian Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I think the below is correct:

If you install two different applications with the same creator ID, the most
recently installed one will overwrite the other during a hotsync. The
creator ID is how the Palm differentiates between applications. (It doesn't
use the file name or a digital signature).


not sure about this one :)

puts on palmos historian hat

the creator id is used mainly for the application preferences; and, a
method of grouping common databases together as a single entity.
when you delete an application; it will also remove the preferences
for that creator id and any additional applications with the same creator
id - this is how it has been my understanding :)

its always best to have your own creator id uniquely - however, you can
make small changes to allow for seperately manageable databases
like level packs etc. (appear as seperate items in delete dialog).

palmos marks uniqueness via the filename only.

everything is a database; the database name is the unique identifier.
if you have two databases with the same name; only the last installed
will exist; as it would have overridden the previous database. this is why
on the developer list; we have suggested naming database files with:

 {creator id}-name

allowing everyone to use the first four characters to ensure uniqueness.
these discussions went on back in 1999/2000 era - so, its a long way
back to search the archives.

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Re: Linker error with new and delete operator.

2006-07-24 Thread Andrew Scheurer
Its possible that you're not linking in the MSL C++
library.
Are you using the command line compiler or the IDE w/
Metrowerks...


--- babbu cathy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello all,
 
 Can anyone give me the solution.
 
 When i try to compile my project in codewarrior 9.3,
 it gives me the following linker error message, can
 you suggest me to resolve this error ?
 Error:
 1. operator new(unsigned long) referenced from
 myfunction() is undefined.
 2. operator delete(void*) referenced from
 myfunction() is undefined.
 
 
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Get hands-on time with ALP at PalmSource Developer Day

2006-07-24 Thread David Beers
I just noticed that PalmSource is giving a day-long developers conference in 
San Francisco on Aug 16.  The focus is on the new (yet to be released) ACCESS 
Linux Platform (ALP).  It's part of the LinuxWorld conference but you can 
register seperately for the PalmSource Developer Day for $95:

http://tinyurl.com/gmtg2

The sessions sound good if you're interested in getting a hands-on preview of 
developing for ALP:

Introduction to ACCESS Linux Platform (ALP). This is a hands-on session that 
will describe the ACCESS Linux Platform (ALP) and details its open source 
architecture. PalmSource will also demonstrate ALP and transform a typical 
Hello World application into an ALP application ready for mobile device 
deployment. Attendees will run sample applications as well as have the 
opportunity to build one together as a group.

Deep Dive into ACCESS Linux Platform (ALP). In this session PalmSource and 
attendees will take the ALP application from the Hands-On intro and add GUI 
controls with Glade, introduce special mobile device event handlers and show 
debugging an ALP application via Eclipse on the Simulator.

Compatibility Station. A unique and special experience for attendees, 
PalmSource will invite Palm OS developers to try their existing applications on 
ALP and discuss compatibility strategies with onsite PalmSource engineers.

Extending an ALP Application. In this final session PalmSource will add more 
features to the application from the Deep Dive Session, including accessing a 
SQLite database for information storage and retrieval. PalmSource will provide 
go-forward advice and guidance to help you plan and prepare your projects to 
support ALP.

I understand that the July PalmSource Developer Newsletter will be coming out 
very soon with more information but since this is only a little over 3 weeks 
away I thought people who wanted to attend should have as much advance notice 
as possible so they can make reservations.

David Beers
Pikesoft Mobile Computing
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Missing IBM Java VM on Palm Cobalt Simulator 6.1

2006-07-24 Thread srigans
Hi,
Has anyone successfully built and tested a PRC on the Palm Cobalt Simulator 
6.1. I keep getting the following error:

Missing IBM Java VM
-Please ensure that IBM's Websphere Micro Environment Java VM is installed.

I think I did the necessary things:
Download the PRC from this site and installed it on the Simulator.
http://www.palm.com/us/support/jvm/download.html
I basically installed the 2 PRCs in the above link.

I even J9JavaVMMidp20.dll in the Simulator\6.1\Debug and restarted the 
simulator. However I still get the same message.

Any help on this will be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
-Sri

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re: Missing IBM Java VM on Palm Cobalt Simulator 6.1

2006-07-24 Thread David Beers
IBM has never released a Java VM for Palm OS Cobalt and probably never will. 
That combined with the fact that there are no Cobalt devices released and that 
PalmSource reports that they are devoting all their energies to a new platform 
(ACCESS Linux Platform) would lead me to conclude that you shouldn't be 
worrying about targetting Palm OS Cobalt.  Unless you are a Palm OS licensee 
working on a Cobalt device that none of us know about! :-)

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re: Missing IBM Java VM on Palm Cobalt Simulator 6.1

2006-07-24 Thread Sriram Ganapathy

Hi David,
Thanks for your quick reply. I'm actually new to Palm OS. I'm just trying to 
get my app to work on Palm Treo 650. What is the equivalent Simulator to 
that?


Cheers,
-Sriram



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Subject: re: Missing IBM Java VM on Palm Cobalt Simulator 6.1
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 23:20:52 -

IBM has never released a Java VM for Palm OS Cobalt and probably never 
will. That combined with the fact that there are no Cobalt devices released 
and that PalmSource reports that they are devoting all their energies to a 
new platform (ACCESS Linux Platform) would lead me to conclude that you 
shouldn't be worrying about targetting Palm OS Cobalt.  Unless you are a 
Palm OS licensee working on a Cobalt device that none of us know about! :-)


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Re: Missing IBM Java VM on Palm Cobalt Simulator 6.1

2006-07-24 Thread Tinnus
2006/7/24, Sriram Ganapathy [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi David,Thanks for your quick reply. I'm actually new to Palm OS. I'm just trying toget my app to work on Palm Treo 650. What is the equivalent Simulator tothat?The Palm OS Garnet (
5.x) Simulator, or better, the Treo 650 Simulator from PalmOne PluggedIn program (I think there's one). But you get that from PalmOne... er, Palm Inc. (hate those name changes) and not PalmSource.

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Re: Missing IBM Java VM on Palm Cobalt Simulator 6.1

2006-07-24 Thread Sriram Ganapathy
Thanks for your replies. Finally got it to work on Garnet 5.4 Release Simulator 
not Debug.
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OS5 = Garnet?

2006-07-24 Thread Oscar De León R .








Hi,

I have a Palm Zire 31, OS 5.2.8.

I would like to know if this is the called
Garnet OS.

I am reading Palm OS documentation
and not sure about certain functionalities are present in the OS.

Could someone explain this to me?



Thanks in advance.

Oscar






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Re: Linker error with new and delete operator.

2006-07-24 Thread babbu cathy
Well, I am using Codewarrior IDE compiler.. I tried
adding MSL, but i am getting the same linker error
still.:(

cathy.

--- Andrew Scheurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Its possible that you're not linking in the MSL C++
 library.
 Are you using the command line compiler or the IDE
 w/
 Metrowerks...
 
 
 --- babbu cathy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hello all,
  
  Can anyone give me the solution.
  
  When i try to compile my project in codewarrior
 9.3,
  it gives me the following linker error message,
 can
  you suggest me to resolve this error ?
  Error:
  1. operator new(unsigned long) referenced from
  myfunction() is undefined.
  2. operator delete(void*) referenced from
  myfunction() is undefined.
  
  
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Push Registry on Palm Treo 650 and Garnet Simulator

2006-07-24 Thread Sriram Ganapathy
Hi,
Does anyone know if Push Registry (Register Alarm) works on the Palm Treo 650? 
Also does it work on the Garnet 5.4 Simulator?

I've tried it on the Simulator but it doesn't work. However as a MIDP 2.0 
feature, Push Registry worked fine on a Nokia N80 running Symbian.

Any help on this would be appreciated!
Thanks,
-Sri
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URLConnection usage in Palm Garnet 5.4 Simulator

2006-07-24 Thread Sriram Ganapathy
Hi,
Has anyone used the URLConnection class to make HTTP Connections to remote 
websites on the Simulator?

Is there some kind of setup that needs to be performed on the simulator for it 
to work?

I saw that there is a Settings - Communiation - Communication Ports ... on 
the Simulator and tried creating a new Port and named it Http and Transport 
Type: TCP/IP but wasn't sure what to use for the 'Bound To' drop-down but only 
one entry showed up there named 'localhost:9' and tried to use it but it didn't 
work.

Please help,
Thanks,
-Sri

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Re: Linker error with new and delete operator.

2006-07-24 Thread Andrew Scheurer
When you create the project, look to using the C++
stationary, a POL project - there are I believe C++
stationary's. If you select one of those, new and
delete should link.


--- babbu cathy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well, I am using Codewarrior IDE compiler.. I tried
 adding MSL, but i am getting the same linker error
 still.:(
 
 cathy.
 
 --- Andrew Scheurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Its possible that you're not linking in the MSL
 C++
  library.
  Are you using the command line compiler or the IDE
  w/
  Metrowerks...
  
  
  --- babbu cathy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Hello all,
   
   Can anyone give me the solution.
   
   When i try to compile my project in codewarrior
  9.3,
   it gives me the following linker error message,
  can
   you suggest me to resolve this error ?
   Error:
   1. operator new(unsigned long) referenced from
   myfunction() is undefined.
   2. operator delete(void*) referenced from
   myfunction() is undefined.
   
   
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UDP

2006-07-24 Thread l3slie_16
Hi,
Can somebody teach me the steps in making my udp server to be able to send as 
well as receive? 

thanks you,

Lyka Leslie
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