Re: Easy Cd creator 5 sucks.

2004-06-25 Thread Gary Wood
Hi Doug.  Try Nero.  I have Nero 5.5, and to me, it seems to work quite well
with Jaws.
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Subject: Easy Cd creator 5 sucks.


 After a crash I re-installed Easy Cd creator 5.
 When I try to launch it, I get one of those annoying error reports that my
 puter wants to send to Microsoft.
 (not to mention it had a version compatibility problem with jfw 5.
 I wound up un-installing the damn thing.
 Basically, all I want to do is copy some programs and mp3 files to a CD.
 Can someone tell me where I can find a replacement for cd creator that
will
 work with jfw on a win xp home system?
 Thanks in advance.


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Re: accessible program for records and cassettes

2004-06-25 Thread Matthew Bullis
Hello, since this question comes up a lot, I did a spoken tutorial on this
subject for ACB Radio's Main Menu. Go to
www.ACBRadio.org
then on demand, then main menu, then search for my name down the page, and
click on the show date and use the B key in Winamp to skip to my segment. It
explains step by step how to put records onto the hard disc, and most of the
steps can be applied to cassettes as well.
Thanks a lot.
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Re: Easy Cd creator 5 sucks.

2004-06-25 Thread Gina Grunden
I have Nero 6, and it works even better with JAWS.
Gina
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 Hi Doug.  Try Nero.  I have Nero 5.5, and to me, it seems to work quite well
 with Jaws.
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 Subject: Easy Cd creator 5 sucks.
 
 
  After a crash I re-installed Easy Cd creator 5.
  When I try to launch it, I get one of those annoying error reports that my
  puter wants to send to Microsoft.
  (not to mention it had a version compatibility problem with jfw 5.
  I wound up un-installing the damn thing.
  Basically, all I want to do is copy some programs and mp3 files to a CD.
  Can someone tell me where I can find a replacement for cd creator that
 will
  work with jfw on a win xp home system?
  Thanks in advance.
 
 
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RE: accessible program for records and cassettes

2004-06-25 Thread rinty
Goldwave good, but for ease of use, you really have to go a long way,
in my view, to beat the tool in CDexe.

Rob

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Subject: Re: accessible program for records and cassettes


Hi Tessa.

Your friend should consider GoldWave.  This is a digital editing
program
which enables people like your friend to copy all his music
collection,
CD's, Tapes and Vinyl into his computer.

A demonstration of GoldWave can be downloaded from:
http://www.goldwave.com/
and scripts for JAWS and GoldWave can be downloaded free from:
http://jbauer.no-ip.org/

There is also a very good list for GoldWave users were your friend can
get
advice and support.

I believe that GoldWave costs about £25.  Another popular program is
Sound
Forge but this costs about £200.

Here is what John Wilson has to say about Goldwave:


For its price, GoldWave has an impressive array of audio

creating, converting, special effects and editing features for

digital music, analogue music and speech input. It can take

digital audio from your CD drives and convert this to more than

a dozen alternative formats such as WAV and compressed MP3, WMA

and OGG Vorbis formats. It is also able to remaster and fix

crackles, his and clicks on music and other sound files you

record into it from external sources, such as from vinyl LPs,

music cassettes, the radio and other sound sources fed into it

via the jack plug on your sound card. As part of its standard

installation it provides normalising and noise reduction



Best wishes.
Andy from sunny Kilcreggan
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Subject: accessible program for records and cassettes


 Hi All:
 I'm asking this question for a friend. I haven't a clue what I'm
looking
for so
 can't search the archives so thought someone might be willing to
just give
me a
 relatively easy answer grin.
 A friend who is quite music savy with mixers and that sort of stuff
is
upgrading
 his computer. He has all kinds of records as well as cassettes and
cd's.
He
 wants to know what program he can get that will allow him to put
this
material
 on to the computer in stereo. Something which is jaws friendly. For
cassettes
 and records would each song have to be taped separately or is there
a
program
 which will break the recording into tracks when there's a pause in
the
music
 The only thing I know how to use is cdex so I'm not going to be much
help
to
 him, so any suggestions would be appreciated. He'll probably be
upgrading
to
 windows xp with the latest version of jaws, what programs work and
which
ones
 should he avoid?
 Thanks
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RE: R W cd's

2004-06-25 Thread rinty
Hi, the only way is to keep them in separate piles. There's no way
from the physical characteristics of the CD, and no way from windows
as far as I know.

Rob

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Hi list,
I have a number of R W cd's some will burn at 10x and others burn at
4x.
How do I tell which are 10x and 4x?
Thanks for any help.
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RE: MP3 players

2004-06-25 Thread rinty
Hi Andy, the archos isn't your beast for the birdsong, unless you buy
an expensive mic.  You can run one, but you'll also need a mic preamp
I'm thinking.  Mics are something that I don't entirely understand.
The cost of an archos on Ebay is about £100, it's the one I've got.
Have a look at www.rockbox.haxx.se for all the information you could
ever want, especially the comparison table between the different
units.

Rob

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Subject: Re: MP3 players


Hi Sarai

Can you please advise me of the cost of the Archos and if at all
possible,
give me some idea in £'s  You said that after your holiday, you were
going
to try some recording of sounds.  Can you let me know about the
quality.
For example, is it capable of making good quality bird song recordings
by
external mic.  Thanks.


Best wishes.
Andy from sunny Kilcreggan
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Subject: Re: MP3 players


 They also have a review of the Archos.
 Sarai and Rosie, Proverbs 3:5,6 Trust in the Lord with all your
heart,
   And lean not on your own understanding;
   In all your ways acknowledge Him,
   And He shall direct your paths.


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 Subject: Re: MP3 players


  Hi Hank.
 
  If you visit the ACB Radio's Main Menu site at
  http://www.acbradio.org/mainmenu.html and click on the link for 8
October
  2003, the last item on the show is a review on the iriver IHP-100
hard
 disk
  based MP3 player by Michael Lang.  Alternatively, you can visit
the ACB
  Radio's FTP site at ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/ and download the
particular
  clip.  The code for the show is mmm1565.
 
  I really fancied the machine, but at the end of his show Michael
advised
 us
  of the new machine which you have purchased.   I wonder if Michael
is
  considering a Review of this?
 
 
  Best wishes.
  Andy from sunny Kilcreggan
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  Subject: Re: MP3 players
 
 
  what predisessor are you refering to?
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  Subject: Re: MP3 players
 
 
   Hi Peter.
  
   Have you listened to Michael Lang's piece on this machines
predecessor
 at
   the ACB Radio#'s Main Menu?  I was considering purchasing the
new 20gb
   machine, but was not convinced that I could navigate my way
through
  hundreds
   of albums.  Do you need to remember the alphabetical order in
which
 albums
   are stored, and how about external microphone quality,?  Is it
good
 enough
   to record bird song?  Finally, the best price I saw for it was
£240.
 One
   more question, if you don't mind, would you say that it was a
better
  machine
   than the Archos 20 GB recorder?  I ask because there is a lot of
chatter
  on
   this machine at the moment, with respect to navigation
directories.
  
  
   Best wishes.
   Andy from sunny Kilcreggan
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   From: Peter Scanlon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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   Subject: Re: MP3 players
  
  
Hello,
   
I personally have an iriver ihp120 which
is a 20 gb hard drive player supporting mp3,wav,wma,ogg
formats.  Accessible?  Well, to me it's very accessible but
it does
not talk.  The reason it's accessible for me is because the
layout
of
  how
to use it is very easy.  You don't need any
special software to transfer files to and from the unit.  If
your
 music
   is
organized into folders and you transfer it that
way it will be there for you in that order in the player.
You can
 move
forward by file, or by folder.  Each time you press
the forward or backward button the unit beeps to let you know
the
  action
took.  The unit also has a built-in microphone for
real time recording which will record in wave or mp3 on the
fly.
You
  can
change the recording source to line-in as well to
   
Can you use an external mike, and can you change the sample
rate of
recording so as to get high quality recording, for example
recording
  live
music?
   
Peter S.
   
   
   
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Re: Voice over not loud enough

2004-06-25 Thread shawn klein
Hi Tessa. Sounds like something you could do in gold
wave. The squeal removal that is, unless the music on
your meditation tape is all on 1 stereo channel and
the voice is on another, I can't see how you would
increase the voice. If I were going to remove a squeal
though, I'd probably use the paremetric equalizer or
the band pass filter in gold wave.
Shawn
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 Ok, now for a question of my own.
 I have two meditation type cassettes. I want to
 record them on to my computer
 because I've already lost the one cassette once, at
 least having a copy on the
 computer I will still be able to listen to it the
 next time I set the cassette
 down and can't remember exactly where.
 So I can use cdex to record the cassette, my problem
 is that for me the music is
 to loud for the voice over. Is there any way I can
 tone down the music slightly
 before I put a copy on a cd.
 And now that I think of it, I have an old cassette
 which probably can't be
 replaced, but it squeals, is there any hope of
 copying the material squeal free?
 Thanks
 Tessa
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Re: Nero Express

2004-06-25 Thread Morey Worthington
Morning Debbie,
Thank you for your tips. Will give them a whirl and am sure will work.
Thanks again,
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Re: Nero Express

2004-06-25 Thread Stewart Ross
hi i have neuro vertion 5.82 but don't no if its the full vertion or the
demo? my question is
can someone tell me some details or instructions on how to rip some tracks
to my pc using nero thanks i don't want to use cdex!
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Re: MP3 Direct Cut

2004-06-25 Thread Morey Worthington
Thanks for the information.
Morey


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recording in goldwave

2004-06-25 Thread doc
I read in the manual that it is possible to set low level threshholds for
recording so that goldwave stops recording when the volume drops below a
certain level.  I couldn't find where to set this though.  Does anyone know?
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Re: recording in goldwave

2004-06-25 Thread shawn klein
Hi Doc. Hit alt+o for options, down arrow to controls,
shift tab to the control tab, right arrow to record,
and tab past a bunch of stuff including the delayed
recording timer, making sure that the check box that
says unbounded is not checked. When you find delayed
recording v level activated, check that, and then the
next boxes over will be the threshhold and duration.
Duration is how long gold wave records for after the
initial sound above the threshhold activates it.
You'll have to play with the threshhold to see where
you want it. Experiment.
Shawn
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Re: recording in goldwave

2004-06-25 Thread doc
Thank you very much!
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Re: Nero Express

2004-06-25 Thread Debbie Scales
The thing about ripping with Nero is unless you buy the MP3Pro plug in, it
won't let you save in MP3 format.  The MP3Pro plug in lets you save in
either MP3Pro or MP3 format.  However Nero includes it as a demo and will
let you test with it for thirty days.
With that having been said:
Go to your programs menu, Nero, nero ultra edition, and run nero burning
rom.
Hit the escape key to leave the initial dialog.
Go to the menu called extras and choice save tracks.
It will list your cd drives, make sure it has the correct drive selected,
tab and enter on okay.
It will ask if you want to use the Nero CDDB, enter on yes.  It will bring
up a window while trying to retrieve the track information. if you tab
around you will find various buttons.
This process can take a minute or two.  If you use your jaws cursor you will
find a line at the bottom that tells the time remaining.
When it is done it will bring up back to the prior dialog and list your
tracks and you select what you want or use the select all button.  Keep
tabbing and you make other choices here such as output file format and where
to save the tracks.  Then tab and enter on GO.
It will bring up a progress window that will tell the track it is ripping.
When it is done, on my XP machine it saved the tracks in
C:\Documents and Settings\Debbie\My Documents
That should get you started, good luck.
Debbie




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Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 7:49 AM
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hi i have neuro vertion 5.82 but don't no if its the full vertion or the
demo? my question is
can someone tell me some details or instructions on how to rip some tracks
to my pc using nero thanks i don't want to use cdex!
--

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Re: Nero Express

2004-06-25 Thread Stephen Clower
Debbie,
  Actually, you can download their Lame mp3 plugin and register it for free. This 
allows you to rip into mp3 as well as ogg without having to buy the mp3 pro plugin. Of 
course, to rip into mp3 pro you'll still have to buy that particular plugin, but 
normal mp3 files can be made without having to pay anything extra. I'm not sure why 
Ahead doesn't include the Lame encoder with Nero since it's free, might be a licensing 
issue. Anyway, the plugin can be gotten from the Nero website under downloadable 
Plug-In's




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On 6/25/2004 at 12:06 PM Debbie Scales wrote:

The thing about ripping with Nero is unless you buy the MP3Pro plug in, it
won't let you save in MP3 format.  The MP3Pro plug in lets you save in
either MP3Pro or MP3 format.  However Nero includes it as a demo and will
let you test with it for thirty days.
With that having been said:
Go to your programs menu, Nero, nero ultra edition, and run nero burning
rom.
Hit the escape key to leave the initial dialog.
Go to the menu called extras and choice save tracks.
It will list your cd drives, make sure it has the correct drive selected,
tab and enter on okay.
It will ask if you want to use the Nero CDDB, enter on yes.  It will bring
up a window while trying to retrieve the track information. if you tab
around you will find various buttons.
This process can take a minute or two.  If you use your jaws cursor you
will
find a line at the bottom that tells the time remaining.
When it is done it will bring up back to the prior dialog and list your
tracks and you select what you want or use the select all button.  Keep
tabbing and you make other choices here such as output file format and
where
to save the tracks.  Then tab and enter on GO.
It will bring up a progress window that will tell the track it is ripping.
When it is done, on my XP machine it saved the tracks in
C:\Documents and Settings\Debbie\My Documents
That should get you started, good luck.
Debbie




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Subject: Re: Nero Express


hi i have neuro vertion 5.82 but don't no if its the full vertion or the
demo? my question is
can someone tell me some details or instructions on how to rip some tracks
to my pc using nero thanks i don't want to use cdex!
--

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RE: Nero Express

2004-06-25 Thread rinty
I didn't think you could rip with Nero.

Rob

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hi i have neuro vertion 5.82 but don't no if its the full vertion or
the
demo? my question is
can someone tell me some details or instructions on how to rip some
tracks
to my pc using nero thanks i don't want to use cdex!
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 Morning Debbie,
 Thank you for your tips. Will give them a whirl and am sure will
work.
 Thanks again,
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Re: my mp3 player problem

2004-06-25 Thread Sarai and Rosie
Mine is a recorder also.
Sarai and Rosie, Proverbs 3:5,6 Trust in the Lord with all your heart,
  And lean not on your own understanding;
  In all your ways acknowledge Him,
  And He shall direct your paths.


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Subject: RE: my mp3 player problem


 Hi.
 That is not a V2, it's a player 20, if the manual says Studio 20.
 You need to get the player firmware from the rockbox site if that's what
the
 manual says.
 Aman

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 I think its V 2 because the manual says Archos studio 20 or something like
 that.
 Sarai and Rosie, Proverbs 3:5,6 Trust in the Lord with all your heart,
   And lean not on your own understanding;
   In all your ways acknowledge Him,
   And He shall direct your paths.


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  Hi.
  Try plugging in the USB cable and starting the recorder. Also, how
  do you know you have a V2 or FM unit? This lockup may be because you put
 the
  wrong firmware on the unit.
  Aman
 
 
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  Subject: my mp3 player problem
 
  Hi:
  In regards to my early post about rockbox, my dad said that it tries to
 load
  and gets to about four bars then just locks up. Any suggestions,
  Sarai and Rosie, Proverbs 3:5,6 Trust in the Lord with all your heart,
And lean not on your own understanding;
In all your ways acknowledge Him,
And He shall direct your paths.
 
 
 
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Re: Nero Express

2004-06-25 Thread Debbie Scales
Thanks for the information Steve.  I usually rip with CDEx and actually this
is the first time I used Nero to rip.  What threw me is when I selected MP3
for the output file format, it bought up a dialog giving information which
seemed to imply you needed to purchase the MP3Pro plug in to create MP3 as
well as MP3Pro.  But it probably was just an attempt to make you believe
that so you would purchase it smile.
Looking on their website, I also found out something else I wasn't aware of.
You can rip with Nero express as well as Nero burning Rom.  You run Nero
express, press the space bar on the more button, right arrow and press the
space bar on the save tracks button and it brings you to the same place as
Nero burning Rom does when you select save tracks from the extras menu.
Debbie

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Subject: Re: Nero Express


Debbie,
  Actually, you can download their Lame mp3 plugin and register it for free.
This allows you to rip into mp3 as well as ogg without having to buy the mp3
pro plugin. Of course, to rip into mp3 pro you'll still have to buy that
particular plugin, but normal mp3 files can be made without having to pay
anything extra. I'm not sure why Ahead doesn't include the Lame encoder with
Nero since it's free, might be a licensing issue. Anyway, the plugin can be
gotten from the Nero website under downloadable Plug-In's




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On 6/25/2004 at 12:06 PM Debbie Scales wrote:

The thing about ripping with Nero is unless you buy the MP3Pro plug in, it
won't let you save in MP3 format.  The MP3Pro plug in lets you save in
either MP3Pro or MP3 format.  However Nero includes it as a demo and will
let you test with it for thirty days.
With that having been said:
Go to your programs menu, Nero, nero ultra edition, and run nero burning
rom.
Hit the escape key to leave the initial dialog.
Go to the menu called extras and choice save tracks.
It will list your cd drives, make sure it has the correct drive selected,
tab and enter on okay.
It will ask if you want to use the Nero CDDB, enter on yes.  It will bring
up a window while trying to retrieve the track information. if you tab
around you will find various buttons.
This process can take a minute or two.  If you use your jaws cursor you
will
find a line at the bottom that tells the time remaining.
When it is done it will bring up back to the prior dialog and list your
tracks and you select what you want or use the select all button.  Keep
tabbing and you make other choices here such as output file format and
where
to save the tracks.  Then tab and enter on GO.
It will bring up a progress window that will tell the track it is ripping.
When it is done, on my XP machine it saved the tracks in
C:\Documents and Settings\Debbie\My Documents
That should get you started, good luck.
Debbie




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Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: Nero Express


hi i have neuro vertion 5.82 but don't no if its the full vertion or the
demo? my question is
can someone tell me some details or instructions on how to rip some tracks
to my pc using nero thanks i don't want to use cdex!
--

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 Morning Debbie,
 Thank you for your tips. Will give them a whirl and am sure will work.
 Thanks again,
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Re: multimedia question

2004-06-25 Thread nick danger
Hi Shannon,

4 blind mice is a computer game.  SayPad is a text to speech program that
can convert written text to mp3 audio and narrate it with microsoft's sapi 5
speech synthesis.  It's not the best sounding thing in the world though, but
it works.

Tony
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From: shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: multimedia question


 Tony,
 Thank you for the response.
 I tried to click on the link you provided and it didn't work. I did
however
 go out to Ask.com and looked for saypad and it has taken me to another
place
 that says it has this download and another called four blind mice. What
 exactly is Saypad and four blind mice?
 This sight doesn't give allot of info on what ever these are.
 Shannon
 - Original Message - 
 From: nick danger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 9:37 AM
 Subject: Re: multimedia question


  Hi shannon,
 
  I know of one program that will convert your text to an mp3.  Go to
  http://www.inspirecode.net and pick up the version of a program called
  SayPad that applies to the computer system you have. Hope this helps.
 
  Tony
  - Original Message - 
  From: mimi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC audio discussion list.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 2:28 AM
  Subject: Re: multimedia question
 
 
   Well, sorry I do not know how to convert a text file to mp3.  I work
 with
   audio and converting cassettes and making mp3 files.  I wish I knew
the
   other things you are trying to do.  But text conversion to spech is
not
  what
   I do myself.  It's not that I do not wish ot, it's just one thing I
 don't
   know about.  When I do talking books, I set the bit rate to 32 so I
can
  fit
   a long books or a series of short ones onto a disc.  For music
however,
 I
   use a higher bit rate.
  
   Mimi
  
  
   - Original Message - 
   From: shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: PC audio discussion list.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 6:17 AM
   Subject: Re: multimedia question
  
  
Mimi,
Please excuse this question if this should be a no brainer.
I am new to all of this recording stuff.When you said that the bit
 rate
   was
32 for talking books is that the origional bit rate for recording?
If you will allow me to tell you what I do know (Which is not much)
  maybe
you could fill me in.
I know that I have a book in text format. I want to make it a MP3. I
downloaded a trial version of Text aloud.
Now start the questions is this where the 32 bit part comes in?
Once
 I
   have
made an MP3 what settings are needed to burn this to a mini disk
 walkman
   so
this book could have legs?
I am sorry if this was too long of a subject.
Shannon
   
   
   
   
   
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From: mimi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 11:27 PM
Subject: Re: multimedia question
   
   
 Hello, Tony,

 What the person who did the encoding did was set the bit rate to
32;
   that
is
 the reason they got 50 hours of material on one CD in mp3 form.  I
   encode
 all the time, and do this for talking books, which is just someone
   reading
a
 book anyway.  Of course, for music, a much higher rate is
 preferable,
  so
   I
 do my music in 128 to 192.  Above and the mp3 files would be much
 too
   big.
 I mp3 classical and pop music so this is understandable.  Hope I
 have
 answered your query.  Anytime someone puts around 50 hours of
stuff
 on
  a
CD,
 they have used the smallest bit rate setting.

 Mimi








 - Original Message - 
 From: nick danger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 4:08 PM
 Subject: multimedia question


 Hi yall,

 Maybe   somebody can answer this one because I'm just not sure of
  this.
 Here's my quandry.

 I am a bunch of mp3's on my hard drive and I've got nero 5.5 as my
 rom
 burner.  A friend of mine gave me a disk with about 50 hours worth
 of
stuff
 on it. I wonder if this compilation was made with a different type
 of
   cd.
I
 know you can store all kinds of material on a dvd rom but this
 wasn't
   one
of
 those.  What type of blank media is that and can nero work with
it?
  I'm
 going to be stripping this computer soon and installing win2k on
it.
Thanks
 for helping in advance guys and dolls.


 Tony



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RE: R W cd's

2004-06-25 Thread louie
That's too bad. How does the burner know what speed to burn at?

Louie 

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Subject: RE: R W cd's

Hi, the only way is to keep them in separate piles. There's no way
from the physical characteristics of the CD, and no way from windows
as far as I know.

Rob

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Subject: R W cd's


Hi list,
I have a number of R W cd's some will burn at 10x and others burn at
4x.
How do I tell which are 10x and 4x?
Thanks for any help.
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Re[2]: multimedia question

2004-06-25 Thread djc
Sorry but 4blind mice is an audible mouse. Saypad is a talking text editor
and Metris is a Music game. All these offerings can be had from:

http://inspiredcode.net



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On 6/25/2004 at 1:10 PM nick danger wrote:

Hi Shannon,

4 blind mice is a computer game.  SayPad is a text to speech program that
can convert written text to mp3 audio and narrate it with microsoft's sapi
5
speech synthesis.  It's not the best sounding thing in the world though,
but
it works.

Tony
- Original Message - 
From: shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: multimedia question


 Tony,
 Thank you for the response.
 I tried to click on the link you provided and it didn't work. I did
however
 go out to Ask.com and looked for saypad and it has taken me to another
place
 that says it has this download and another called four blind mice. What
 exactly is Saypad and four blind mice?
 This sight doesn't give allot of info on what ever these are.
 Shannon
 - Original Message - 
 From: nick danger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 9:37 AM
 Subject: Re: multimedia question


  Hi shannon,
 
  I know of one program that will convert your text to an mp3.  Go to
  http://www.inspirecode.net and pick up the version of a program called
  SayPad that applies to the computer system you have. Hope this helps.
 
  Tony
  - Original Message - 
  From: mimi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC audio discussion list.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 2:28 AM
  Subject: Re: multimedia question
 
 
   Well, sorry I do not know how to convert a text file to mp3.  I work
 with
   audio and converting cassettes and making mp3 files.  I wish I knew
the
   other things you are trying to do.  But text conversion to spech is
not
  what
   I do myself.  It's not that I do not wish ot, it's just one thing I
 don't
   know about.  When I do talking books, I set the bit rate to 32 so I
can
  fit
   a long books or a series of short ones onto a disc.  For music
however,
 I
   use a higher bit rate.
  
   Mimi
  
  
   - Original Message - 
   From: shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: PC audio discussion list.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 6:17 AM
   Subject: Re: multimedia question
  
  
Mimi,
Please excuse this question if this should be a no brainer.
I am new to all of this recording stuff.When you said that the bit
 rate
   was
32 for talking books is that the origional bit rate for recording?
If you will allow me to tell you what I do know (Which is not
much)
  maybe
you could fill me in.
I know that I have a book in text format. I want to make it a MP3.
I
downloaded a trial version of Text aloud.
Now start the questions is this where the 32 bit part comes in?
Once
 I
   have
made an MP3 what settings are needed to burn this to a mini disk
 walkman
   so
this book could have legs?
I am sorry if this was too long of a subject.
Shannon
   
   
   
   
   
- Original Message - 
From: mimi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 11:27 PM
Subject: Re: multimedia question
   
   
 Hello, Tony,

 What the person who did the encoding did was set the bit rate to
32;
   that
is
 the reason they got 50 hours of material on one CD in mp3 form. 
I
   encode
 all the time, and do this for talking books, which is just
someone
   reading
a
 book anyway.  Of course, for music, a much higher rate is
 preferable,
  so
   I
 do my music in 128 to 192.  Above and the mp3 files would be
much
 too
   big.
 I mp3 classical and pop music so this is understandable.  Hope I
 have
 answered your query.  Anytime someone puts around 50 hours of
stuff
 on
  a
CD,
 they have used the smallest bit rate setting.

 Mimi








 - Original Message - 
 From: nick danger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 4:08 PM
 Subject: multimedia question


 Hi yall,

 Maybe   somebody can answer this one because I'm just not sure
of
  this.
 Here's my quandry.

 I am a bunch of mp3's on my hard drive and I've got nero 5.5 as
my
 rom
 burner.  A friend of mine gave me a disk with about 50 hours
worth
 of
stuff
 on it. I wonder if this compilation was made with a different
type
 of
   cd.
I
 know you can store all kinds of material on a dvd rom but this
 wasn't
   one
of
 those.  What type of blank media is that and can nero work with
it?
  I'm
 going to be stripping this computer soon and installing win2k on
it.
Thanks
 for helping in advance guys and dolls.


 Tony

Re: recording in goldwave

2004-06-25 Thread andy logue
f11 and then right ARROWING to the Volume

sheet

Best wishes.
Andy from sunny Kilcreggan
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Subject: recording in goldwave


 I read in the manual that it is possible to set low level threshholds for
 recording so that goldwave stops recording when the volume drops below a
 certain level.  I couldn't find where to set this though.  Does anyone
know?
 Doc Wright
 http://wrightplaceinc.net
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 Its just the least I can do for my neighbor.



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Subject: Re[2]: multimedia question

2004-06-25 Thread nick danger
Hey DJC,

Thanks, having a mad moment here dude! Can't keep it all straight.  Grins.

Tony
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From: djc 
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To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 1:37 PM
Subject: Re[2]: multimedia question

 Sorry but 4blind mice is an audible mouse. Saypad is a talking text editor
 and Metris is a Music game. All these offerings can be had from:


http://inspiredcode.net




 *** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***

 On 6/25/2004 at 1:10 PM nick danger wrote:

 Hi Shannon,
 
 4 blind mice is a computer game.  SayPad is a text to speech program that
 can convert written text to mp3 audio and narrate it with microsoft's
sapi
 5
 speech synthesis.  It's not the best sounding thing in the world though,
 but
 it works.
 
 Tony
 - Original Message -
 From: shannon 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 To: PC audio discussion list.  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 1:46 PM
 Subject: Re: multimedia question
 
 
  Tony,
  Thank you for the response.
  I tried to click on the link you provided and it didn't work. I did
 however
  go out to Ask.com and looked for saypad and it has taken me to another
 place
  that says it has this download and another called four blind mice. What
  exactly is Saypad and four blind mice?
  This sight doesn't give allot of info on what ever these are.
  Shannon
  - Original Message -
  From: nick danger 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  To: PC audio discussion list.  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 9:37 AM
  Subject: Re: multimedia question
 
 
   Hi shannon,
  
   I know of one program that will convert your text to an mp3.  Go to
  
http://www.inspirecode.net
and pick up the version of a program
called
   SayPad that applies to the computer system you have. Hope this helps.
  
   Tony
   - Original Message -
   From: mimi 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

   To: PC audio discussion list.  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

   Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 2:28 AM
   Subject: Re: multimedia question
  
  
Well, sorry I do not know how to convert a text file to mp3.  I
work
  with
audio and converting cassettes and making mp3 files.  I wish I knew
 the
other things you are trying to do.  But text conversion to spech is
 not
   what
I do myself.  It's not that I do not wish ot, it's just one thing I
  don't
know about.  When I do talking books, I set the bit rate to 32 so I
 can
   fit
a long books or a series of short ones onto a disc.  For music
 however,
  I
use a higher bit rate.
   
Mimi
   
   
- Original Message -
From: shannon 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 6:17 AM
Subject: Re: multimedia question
   
   
 Mimi,
 Please excuse this question if this should be a no brainer.
 I am new to all of this recording stuff.When you said that the
bit
  rate
was
 32 for talking books is that the origional bit rate for
recording?
 If you will allow me to tell you what I do know (Which is not
 much)
   maybe
 you could fill me in.
 I know that I have a book in text format. I want to make it a
MP3.
 I
 downloaded a trial version of Text aloud.
 Now start the questions is this where the 32 bit part comes in?
 Once
  I
have
 made an MP3 what settings are needed to burn this to a mini disk
  walkman
so
 this book could have legs?
 I am sorry if this was too long of a subject.
 Shannon





 - Original Message -
 From: mimi 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 To: PC audio discussion list.  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 11:27 PM
 Subject: Re: multimedia question


  Hello, Tony,
 
  What the person who did the encoding did was set the bit rate
to
 32;
that
 is
  the reason they got 50 hours of material on one CD in mp3 form.
 I
encode
  all the time, and do this for talking books, which is just
 someone
reading
 a
  book anyway.  Of course, for music, a much higher rate is
  preferable,
   so
I
  do my music in 128 to 192.  Above and the mp3 files would be
 much
  too
big.
  I mp3 classical and pop music so this is understandable.  Hope
I
  have
  answered your query.  Anytime someone puts around 50 hours of
 stuff
  on
   a
 CD,
  they have used the smallest bit rate setting.
 
  Mimi
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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  Hi yall,
 
  Maybe   somebody can answer this one because I'm just not sure
 of
   this.
  Here's my quandry.
 
  I am a bunch of mp3's on my hard drive and I've got nero 5.5 as
 my
  rom
  burner.  A friend of mine gave me a disk with about 50 

goldwave scripts

2004-06-25 Thread kevin and emma
hi, i tried to download the goldwave version 5 scripts today from:
http://jbauer.no-ip.org/

there seems to be a problem with the download link for the jfw 4.x scripts.
the jfw 5.x link works okay, but i'm using jfw 4.51. can someone try this
link for me? if there is a problem, can someone suggest an alternative
location to get these scripts?
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Re: goldwave scripts

2004-06-25 Thread hank smith
I can't even get that page to load I get a 404 page not found
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Subject: goldwave scripts


 hi, i tried to download the goldwave version 5 scripts today from:
 http://jbauer.no-ip.org/

 there seems to be a problem with the download link for the jfw 4.x
scripts.
 the jfw 5.x link works okay, but i'm using jfw 4.51. can someone try this
 link for me? if there is a problem, can someone suggest an alternative
 location to get these scripts?
 email or msn
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Re: goldwave scripts

2004-06-25 Thread Chris Chaffin
Try:
http://www.jfwlite.com
And go to the programs page!
Chris Chaffin

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 hi, i tried to download the goldwave version 5 scripts today from:
 http://jbauer.no-ip.org/

 there seems to be a problem with the download link for the jfw 4.x
scripts.
 the jfw 5.x link works okay, but i'm using jfw 4.51. can someone try this
 link for me? if there is a problem, can someone suggest an alternative
 location to get these scripts?
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Re: goldwave scripts

2004-06-25 Thread kevin and emma
hi thanks to the suggestion to use jfwlite.com. i now have the scripts.
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 I can't even get that page to load I get a 404 page not found
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  hi, i tried to download the goldwave version 5 scripts today from:
  http://jbauer.no-ip.org/
 
  there seems to be a problem with the download link for the jfw 4.x
 scripts.
  the jfw 5.x link works okay, but i'm using jfw 4.51. can someone try
this
  link for me? if there is a problem, can someone suggest an alternative
  location to get these scripts?
  email or msn
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2 sound cards

2004-06-25 Thread kevin and emma
 i'm hoping this is a simple yes or no answer. basically, if i had 2 sound
cards installed on my XP machine and all the correct drivers installed. is
it possible to simply inter-change between the 2 cards if i want too? or
would i have to restart the pc to use the other card? i'm using jfw if it's
of any relevance.
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Re: 2 sound cards

2004-06-25 Thread doc
You can switch between the two but why.  What is your aim?  If you are
wanting to have jfw pointed to one card specifically I have that info.
Doc Wright
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Re: 2 sound cards

2004-06-25 Thread hank smith
can I get that info?
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 You can switch between the two but why.  What is your aim?  If you are
 wanting to have jfw pointed to one card specifically I have that info.
 Doc Wright
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Re: 2 sound cards

2004-06-25 Thread kevin and emma
hi, this might sound daft but it's true. my turtle beach card is just too
good for some stuff i'm doing and it shows up the flaws in the audio too
much!! my old sblive 5.1 card didn't show up these flaws and so i want to
use it for those again. basically it's one of the games designed for us
blindies from GMAGames, pacman talks to be exact, with the old card it was
fine. with the turtle beach card it's unplayable as the sound quality
appears to be awful!! so i want to have the card installed so i can play the
game, but use my TBSC card for everything else i do as normal.
like i said a bit of an odd reason but there you go! smile.
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 You can switch between the two but why.  What is your aim?  If you are
 wanting to have jfw pointed to one card specifically I have that info.
 Doc Wright
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problem with windows media

2004-06-25 Thread andrew shipp
Hello All Please  someone help me out here I have download tracks  and
yesterday these were all playing ok no problem,  but tonight nun  of these
will play  for some unknown reason.
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Fwd: 2 Skype tips for everyone, please read

2004-06-25 Thread Steve Pattison
*** BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE  ***
On 25/06/2004 at 1:52 PM Juan Sosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello everyone:
The reason why I am writing is  for actually 3 things:
1. everyone please feel free to add me to your skype contact list, my
username is mexican2004
2. Sometimes the skype doesn't show all of your contacts, or the
program
starts acting a bit laggiesh. to fix this problem do this
a. do alt t for tools then the letter l and what this will do is to
erraise
your call history or it will clean your registry of skype.
3. If you ever want to test your connection or you want to hear
yourself on
skype. to do a mic check
a. when you open the program there is a edit box on that box enter
echo123
and this will allow you to record a 10 second message and it will play
it
afterwords.
I hope that all of this tips helped.
regards
Juan Sosa
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DON'T TYPE, SKYPE
mexican2004
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