Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today

2006-09-06 Thread Bobcat
Thanks Rich and Nick for this info.  I'll look forward to hearing the 
report.
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> This info comes from a rather trusted source.
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> To: "Nick G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 8:11 PM
> Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
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>
>> Navigating menus in rock box is easy.  Just press the record button which
>> is your menu key and you can arrow up and down through your menus.  In
>> terms of recording while in the recording screen all though you can set
>> your sample rate and bit rate, there is no way at least as far as I can
>> tell when your in pause mode and when your not.
>> I am recording an iaudio x5 overview for Brian hartgens portable player
>> portle which can be found at
>> http://www.hartgen.org/portable.html


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Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today

2006-09-06 Thread Brent Harding
What about Non-protected WMA support? I sort of don't like the idea of 
recompressing these into mp3. Once I accidentally chose the wrong processing 
in Goldwave demo trying to convert one to wav and converted it to another 
wma at the same bit rate. Boy did I ever notice the sound quality 
degradation.
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Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 6:34 PM
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> Hi Terese and all,
>
> I feel the Milestone is overpriced for its limited feature set.  Add the
> ability to play DRM formats like protected WMA and add support for
> verbalizing ID3 tags, replaceable batteries, etc.  Then, maybe, we're 
> movin'
> in the right direction on this product.
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> From: "Terese Ann Goren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 3:11 PM
> Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
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>
>> Thanks much!  I'll give it a try
>>
>> Terese
>>
>> At 04:39 PM 9/6/2006, you wrote:
>>>welli bought myself a milestone, a very small mp3 player in whitch
>>>you can put a sd card.
>>>you can store music or books or whatever on different cards if you like.
>>>it has speech support and the abbility of reading daisy books as well.
>>>it evenhas a small loudspeaker and is as small as a credit card. it
>>>costs you about 370 euros
>>>
>>>aad
>>>On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:36:13 -0400, Tate Luck wrote:
>>>
>>> >Yes,
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >I wood like to buy a mp3 player. What should I buy?
>>>
>>> >The best bang for the buck, and easy to use
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >thanks.
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Re: Recording from Line-In

2006-09-06 Thread Sunshine
ok, Arthur,  then why does the mute playback well recording show up right to 
the right of the line in recording source in the recording properties? i am 
using a sound blaster audigy sound card as well, aand when i mute this check 
box i still can record what ever is comming through my line in?
please explain this cause you really got me so confused i am under a pile of 
Rocks GOL,LOL
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Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In


> Hi Sunshine,
> the advance ctrls that you are talking about, has nothing to do with
> recording.
> It has to do with controlling the audio tones such has treble, and bass 
> that
> come out of your sound card, and the other one has to do with your
> microphone.
> Arthur Barney
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Sunshine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 10:04 PM
> Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In
>
>
>> do the following.
>> when in the volume controls do alt p as in peter, and then down arrow to
>> advanced and press enter on it now do alt p again and enter on the first
>> one
>> and then choose recording volume and you should see the advanced button
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 8:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In
>>
>>
>>> There is no advanced option for line-in.
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>> -- 
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>>> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
>>>
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>>> On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Sunshine wrote:
>>>
 ok, bruce try this one. go into your volume control and select  your
 properties, and make sure ajust volume for recording is checked, now 
 tab
 until you find your line in and in the advanced button try to check 
 this
 box
 and then Record the audio source again. and let us know what happens.
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 From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 8:10 PM
 Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In


> Recording volume. Maybe I should write an F.A.Q.
>
> Bruce
>
> --
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> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
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> On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Sunshine wrote:
>
>> Ok, Bruce, Are you refering to the playback or the recording volume?
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:24 AM
>> Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In
>>
>>
>>> I am using a Sound Blaster, not an onboard sound card.
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>> --
>>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>>> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
>>>
>>> Bruce Toews
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>>>
>>> On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Donald L. Roberts wrote:
>>>
 On both of my desktops, the one in the rear is called line in,
 and the one in front next to the mike jack is called aux.  Make
 sure that you are attempting to regulate the correct jack.

 Don Roberts

 - Original Message -
 From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 6:32 AM
 Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In


 It's a line-out jack with a predetermined volume. At any rate,
 the line in
 setting under record properties should have *some* effect,
 shouldn't it?

 bruce


>>>
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Re: Recording from Line-In

2006-09-06 Thread Arthur Barney
Hi Sunshine,
the advance ctrls that you are talking about, has nothing to do with 
recording.
It has to do with controlling the audio tones such has treble, and bass that 
come out of your sound card, and the other one has to do with your 
microphone.
Arthur Barney
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From: "Sunshine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 10:04 PM
Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In


> do the following.
> when in the volume controls do alt p as in peter, and then down arrow to
> advanced and press enter on it now do alt p again and enter on the first 
> one
> and then choose recording volume and you should see the advanced button
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 8:23 PM
> Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In
>
>
>> There is no advanced option for line-in.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>> -- 
>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
>>
>> Bruce Toews
>> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Live Journal: http://coke_drinker.livejournal.com
>> Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
>> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>>
>> On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Sunshine wrote:
>>
>>> ok, bruce try this one. go into your volume control and select  your
>>> properties, and make sure ajust volume for recording is checked, now tab
>>> until you find your line in and in the advanced button try to check this
>>> box
>>> and then Record the audio source again. and let us know what happens.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 8:10 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In
>>>
>>>
 Recording volume. Maybe I should write an F.A.Q.

 Bruce

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 http://www.ogts.net
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 On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Sunshine wrote:

> Ok, Bruce, Are you refering to the playback or the recording volume?
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:24 AM
> Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In
>
>
>> I am using a Sound Blaster, not an onboard sound card.
>> Bruce
>>
>> --
>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
>>
>> Bruce Toews
>> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Live Journal: http://coke_drinker.livejournal.com
>> Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
>> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
>> http://www.ogts.net
>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>>
>> On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Donald L. Roberts wrote:
>>
>>> On both of my desktops, the one in the rear is called line in,
>>> and the one in front next to the mike jack is called aux.  Make
>>> sure that you are attempting to regulate the correct jack.
>>>
>>> Don Roberts
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 6:32 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In
>>>
>>>
>>> It's a line-out jack with a predetermined volume. At any rate,
>>> the line in
>>> setting under record properties should have *some* effect,
>>> shouldn't it?
>>>
>>> bruce
>>>
>>>
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Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today

2006-09-06 Thread David Tanner
Book Port is $399 from American Printing House for the Blind http://www.aph.org

The Olympus WS320M is around $200, but you can also get it in a model WS310m 
with 512 meg of memory and all the features remain the same or model WS300m 
with 256 megabytes of memory and same features.  The WS320m is around $200 to 
$250, the WS310m is around $179 to $210, and the model WS300m is around $130 to 
$170.

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Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 2:25 PM
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: How much are these devices?
: 
: Rickarama
: 
: - Original Message - 
: From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
: Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 5:57 PM
: Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
: 
: 
: > What features do you want it to have?  Ultimately, I think one of the best 
: > is Book Port, but then you may not be looking for a multi purpose device 
: > such as Book Port.  The great thing about it is that it is totally 
: > accessible, and since it uses flash memory cards up to 4 gigabytes you can 
: > have a lot of music with you, and have more than one card so it is easier 
: > to have a large library of music, books, etc. and play them all on one 
: > unit.
: >
: > At half the price of the Book Port is the Olympus WS320M digital recorder 
: > and MP3 player.  It plays both MP3 and WMA, records only in WMA.  It is 
: > very small, runs on 1 tripple A battery, and can store 1 gigabyte of 
: > files.  It has a USB interface that makes copying files to it a very easy 
: > thing to do.
: >
: > There are lots of others that one could consider, and I'll just say these 
: > two happen to be my personal favorites because I own and use both of them 
: > regularly.
: >
: >
: > - Original Message - 
: > From: "Tate Luck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: > To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
: > Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 3:36 PM
: > Subject: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
: >
: >
: > : Yes,
: > :
: > :
: > :
: > : I wood like to buy a mp3 player. What should I buy?
: > :
: > : The best bang for the buck, and easy to use
: > :
: > :
: > :
: > : thanks.
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Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today

2006-09-06 Thread David Tanner
That certainly is understandable.  If you can find a Creative Labs Nuvo I think 
there is a chance that you can get one for $100 or less, and they are fairly 
accessible.  There may be others, but I will admit to not knowing about the 
newest MP3 players in the less expensive market just because I haven't had the 
reason to look at them lately.  Maybe I need to shop around a little and see 
what is available.  The olympus WS320M that I mentioned is also available as 
WS300M with 256 megabytes of memory for around $150 and it plays both MP3 and 
WMA, it records in WMA.
 

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Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 3:01 AM
Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today


: this sounds fantastic and all around
:  supurb. Now, if one of you nice people has $299 or $349 to buy one, 
: you got more money than me.
: I just don't have the necessary cash at the moment, and by the time I 
: do, a better model will probably be out.
: 
: 
: 
: At 08:27 PM 9/5/2006, you wrote:
: >I, personally, would by the IAUdio X5 from www.cowonamerica.com.  It has a
: >hard drive, is made out of nice metal, and cah use rock box, which makes the
: >mp3 player talk.  It, even out of the box, can play ogg Vorbis, which is
: >something I look for always.
: >- Original Message -
: >From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: >To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
: >Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:57 PM
: >Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
: >
: >
: > > What features do you want it to have?  Ultimately, I think one of the best
: > > is Book Port, but then you may not be looking for a multi purpose device
: > > such as Book Port.  The great thing about it is that it is totally
: > > accessible, and since it uses flash memory cards up to 4 gigabytes you can
: > > have a lot of music with you, and have more than one card so it is easier
: > > to have a large library of music, books, etc. and play them all on one
: > > unit.
: > >
: > > At half the price of the Book Port is the Olympus WS320M digital recorder
: > > and MP3 player.  It plays both MP3 and WMA, records only in WMA.  It is
: > > very small, runs on 1 tripple A battery, and can store 1 gigabyte of
: > > files.  It has a USB interface that makes copying files to it a very easy
: > > thing to do.
: > >
: > > There are lots of others that one could consider, and I'll just say these
: > > two happen to be my personal favorites because I own and use both of them
: > > regularly.
: > >
: > >
: > > - Original Message -
: > > From: "Tate Luck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: > > To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
: > > Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 3:36 PM
: > > Subject: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
: > >
: > >
: > > : Yes,
: > > :
: > > :
: > > :
: > > : I wood like to buy a mp3 player. What should I buy?
: > > :
: > > : The best bang for the buck, and easy to use
: > > :
: > > :
: > > :
: > > : thanks.
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Re: Recording from Line-In

2006-09-06 Thread Gary Petraccaro
Could the card be defective?

  - Original Message - 
  From: Bruce Toews 
  To: PC audio discussion list. 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 9:15 PM
  Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In


  If that were the case, then (a) I wouldn't have gotten any sound, as 
  opposed to the overdriven sound I got, and (b) switching to another 
  recording source would have had no effect.

  Bruce

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  On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Sunshine wrote:

  > ok, Bruce, Are you sure you selected your sound card in the volume controls?
  > if you just gotten a new sound card it might have defualted to your on
  > board chip for sound.
  > - Original Message -
  > From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  > To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
  > Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 12:47 PM
  > Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In
  >
  >
  >> If I check another recording source, it no longer records from line in; if
  >> I mute the playback volume for line, it has no effect at all.
  >>
  >> Bruce
  >>
  >> --
  >> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
  >> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
  >>
  >> Bruce Toews
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  >>
  >> On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Gary King wrote:
  >>
  >>> Bruce,
  >>>
  >>> You said that changing the volume slider on the line-in source doesn't
  >>> change the resulting recording.  If you use the checkbox associated with
  >>> the
  >>> slider to mute the source, does it result in silence?
  >>>
  >>> Gary King
  >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >>>
  >>> - Original Message -
  >>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  >>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
  >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:50 PM
  >>> Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In
  >>>
  >>>
   No, I've definitely got line-in selected. I tried setting the line-in
   volume to zero, and it's still overdriven.
  
   Bruce
  
   --
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   gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
  
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   On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Bobcat wrote:
  
  > Strange that setting the line in level in record properties isn't
  > working.
  > You do have line in selected?  Is it possible you have "what you hear"
  > or
  > mono or stereo mix selected as your recording source instead?
  >
  > I have a Creative Audigy and notice I have to set my line in level very
  > low,
  > about 20% or less but at least it works.
  > - Original Message -
  > From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  > To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
  > Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:21 AM
  > Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In
  >
  >
  >> It is an APH desktop tape recorder, and I am recording from the
  >> line-out
  >> jack. If I have the line-in recording source checked, the volume can
  >> be
  >> 1
  >> or 100 and the actual volume of the recording is the same.
  >>
  >> Bruce
  >>
  >> --
  >> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
  >> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
  >>
  >> Bruce Toews
  >> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  >> http://www.ogts.net
  >> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
  >>
  >> On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Doc wrote:
  >>
  >>> May I ask what source you are recording from?  Is it an amplified
  >>> source?
  >>> **
  >>>
  >>>  I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it
  >>> robert Doc Wright
  >>> http://www.wrightplaceinc.net
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Re: Recording from Line-In

2006-09-06 Thread Sunshine
do the following.
when in the volume controls do alt p as in peter, and then down arrow to 
advanced and press enter on it now do alt p again and enter on the first one 
and then choose recording volume and you should see the advanced button
- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In


> There is no advanced option for line-in.
>
> Bruce
>
> -- 
> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
>
> Bruce Toews
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>
> On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Sunshine wrote:
>
>> ok, bruce try this one. go into your volume control and select  your
>> properties, and make sure ajust volume for recording is checked, now tab
>> until you find your line in and in the advanced button try to check this 
>> box
>> and then Record the audio source again. and let us know what happens.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 8:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In
>>
>>
>>> Recording volume. Maybe I should write an F.A.Q.
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>> --
>>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>>> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
>>>
>>> Bruce Toews
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>>>
>>> On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Sunshine wrote:
>>>
 Ok, Bruce, Are you refering to the playback or the recording volume?
 - Original Message -
 From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:24 AM
 Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In


> I am using a Sound Blaster, not an onboard sound card.
> Bruce
>
> --
> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
>
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> http://www.ogts.net
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>
> On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Donald L. Roberts wrote:
>
>> On both of my desktops, the one in the rear is called line in,
>> and the one in front next to the mike jack is called aux.  Make
>> sure that you are attempting to regulate the correct jack.
>>
>> Don Roberts
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 6:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In
>>
>>
>> It's a line-out jack with a predetermined volume. At any rate,
>> the line in
>> setting under record properties should have *some* effect,
>> shouldn't it?
>>
>> bruce
>>
>>
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Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today

2006-09-06 Thread David Tanner
I would guess that the reason is that it is newer than MP3 and some of the 
other formats, and I am not sure that it has a way to protect files from being 
copied like protected WMA files.


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Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 2:11 AM
Subject: RE: If you had to buy a mp3 player today


: Hi all
: 
: Have just been wondering.  If vorbis  is such a popular format and so much
: better, why is it not more widely used than mp3 in e.g. music services?  Is
: there a lossless format for ogg vorbis?
: 
: Andre
: 
: 
: -Original Message-
: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
: On Behalf Of Nick G
: Sent: 06 September 2006 03:52 AM
: To: PC audio discussion list. 
: Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
: 
: Ogg Vorbis is a format that has twice the sound quality of mp3 at equivalent
: bitrates.
: - Original Message -
: From: "Tate Luck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
: Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:39 PM
: Subject: RE: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
: 
: 
: > Hi,
: >
: > What is ogg Vorbis?
: >
: > -Original Message-
: > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
: > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
: > On Behalf Of Nick G
: > Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:27 PM
: > To: PC audio discussion list.
: > Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
: >
: > I, personally, would by the IAUdio X5 from www.cowonamerica.com.  It 
: > has a hard drive, is made out of nice metal, and cah use rock box, 
: > which makes the
: >
: > mp3 player talk.  It, even out of the box, can play ogg Vorbis, which 
: > is something I look for always.
: > - Original Message -
: > From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: > To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
: > Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:57 PM
: > Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
: >
: >
: >> What features do you want it to have?  Ultimately, I think one of the 
: >> best
: >
: >> is Book Port, but then you may not be looking for a multi purpose 
: >> device such as Book Port.  The great thing about it is that it is 
: >> totally accessible, and since it uses flash memory cards up to 4 
: >> gigabytes you can
: >
: >> have a lot of music with you, and have more than one card so it is 
: >> easier to have a large library of music, books, etc. and play them 
: >> all on one unit.
: >>
: >> At half the price of the Book Port is the Olympus WS320M digital 
: >> recorder and MP3 player.  It plays both MP3 and WMA, records only in 
: >> WMA.  It is very small, runs on 1 tripple A battery, and can store 1 
: >> gigabyte of files.  It has a USB interface that makes copying files 
: >> to it a very easy thing to do.
: >>
: >> There are lots of others that one could consider, and I'll just say 
: >> these two happen to be my personal favorites because I own and use 
: >> both of them regularly.
: >>
: >>
: >> - Original Message -
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: >>
: >>
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: >> :
: >> :
: >> :
: >> : I wood like to buy a mp3 player. What should I buy?
: >> :
: >> : The best bang for the buck, and easy to use
: >> :
: >> :
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Re: Recording from Line-In

2006-09-06 Thread Bruce Toews
But since nothing was plugged into the onboard sound card, it would have 
recorded nothing, there being nothing to record and all.

Bruce

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On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Sunshine wrote:

> bruce it would have recorded with your on board sound
> a, so yes, it would record,
> and
> b, if you were to play this recording through your sound card it would be
> distorted.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 8:15 PM
> Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In
>
>
>> If that were the case, then (a) I wouldn't have gotten any sound, as
>> opposed to the overdriven sound I got, and (b) switching to another
>> recording source would have had no effect.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>> --
>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
>>
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>>
>> On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Sunshine wrote:
>>
>>> ok, Bruce, Are you sure you selected your sound card in the volume
>>> controls?
>>> if you just gotten a new sound card it might have defualted to your on
>>> board chip for sound.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 12:47 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In
>>>
>>>
 If I check another recording source, it no longer records from line in;
 if
 I mute the playback volume for line, it has no effect at all.

 Bruce

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 On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Gary King wrote:

> Bruce,
>
> You said that changing the volume slider on the line-in source doesn't
> change the resulting recording.  If you use the checkbox associated
> with
> the
> slider to mute the source, does it result in silence?
>
> Gary King
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:50 PM
> Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In
>
>
>> No, I've definitely got line-in selected. I tried setting the line-in
>> volume to zero, and it's still overdriven.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>> --
>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
>>
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>>
>> On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Bobcat wrote:
>>
>>> Strange that setting the line in level in record properties isn't
>>> working.
>>> You do have line in selected?  Is it possible you have "what you
>>> hear"
>>> or
>>> mono or stereo mix selected as your recording source instead?
>>>
>>> I have a Creative Audigy and notice I have to set my line in level
>>> very
>>> low,
>>> about 20% or less but at least it works.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:21 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In
>>>
>>>
 It is an APH desktop tape recorder, and I am recording from the
 line-out
 jack. If I have the line-in recording source checked, the volume can
 be
 1
 or 100 and the actual volume of the recording is the same.

 Bruce

 --
 Yet to all who received him

Re: Recording from Line-In

2006-09-06 Thread Bruce Toews
There is no advanced option for line-in.

Bruce

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On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Sunshine wrote:

> ok, bruce try this one. go into your volume control and select  your
> properties, and make sure ajust volume for recording is checked, now tab
> until you find your line in and in the advanced button try to check this box
> and then Record the audio source again. and let us know what happens.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 8:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In
>
>
>> Recording volume. Maybe I should write an F.A.Q.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>> --
>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
>>
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>>
>> On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Sunshine wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, Bruce, Are you refering to the playback or the recording volume?
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:24 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In
>>>
>>>
 I am using a Sound Blaster, not an onboard sound card.
 Bruce

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 On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Donald L. Roberts wrote:

> On both of my desktops, the one in the rear is called line in,
> and the one in front next to the mike jack is called aux.  Make
> sure that you are attempting to regulate the correct jack.
>
> Don Roberts
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 6:32 AM
> Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In
>
>
> It's a line-out jack with a predetermined volume. At any rate,
> the line in
> setting under record properties should have *some* effect,
> shouldn't it?
>
> bruce
>
>

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Re: Recording from Line-In

2006-09-06 Thread Sunshine
bruce it would have recorded with your on board sound
a, so yes, it would record,
and
b, if you were to play this recording through your sound card it would be 
distorted.

- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In


> If that were the case, then (a) I wouldn't have gotten any sound, as
> opposed to the overdriven sound I got, and (b) switching to another
> recording source would have had no effect.
>
> Bruce
>
> -- 
> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
>
> Bruce Toews
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> On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Sunshine wrote:
>
>> ok, Bruce, Are you sure you selected your sound card in the volume 
>> controls?
>> if you just gotten a new sound card it might have defualted to your on
>> board chip for sound.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 12:47 PM
>> Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In
>>
>>
>>> If I check another recording source, it no longer records from line in; 
>>> if
>>> I mute the playback volume for line, it has no effect at all.
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>> --
>>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>>> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
>>>
>>> Bruce Toews
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>>>
>>> On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Gary King wrote:
>>>
 Bruce,

 You said that changing the volume slider on the line-in source doesn't
 change the resulting recording.  If you use the checkbox associated 
 with
 the
 slider to mute the source, does it result in silence?

 Gary King
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 - Original Message -
 From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:50 PM
 Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In


> No, I've definitely got line-in selected. I tried setting the line-in
> volume to zero, and it's still overdriven.
>
> Bruce
>
> --
> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
>
> Bruce Toews
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>
> On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Bobcat wrote:
>
>> Strange that setting the line in level in record properties isn't
>> working.
>> You do have line in selected?  Is it possible you have "what you 
>> hear"
>> or
>> mono or stereo mix selected as your recording source instead?
>>
>> I have a Creative Audigy and notice I have to set my line in level 
>> very
>> low,
>> about 20% or less but at least it works.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:21 AM
>> Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In
>>
>>
>>> It is an APH desktop tape recorder, and I am recording from the
>>> line-out
>>> jack. If I have the line-in recording source checked, the volume can
>>> be
>>> 1
>>> or 100 and the actual volume of the recording is the same.
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>> --
>>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>>> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
>>>
>>> Bruce Toews
>>> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Live Journal: http://coke_drinker.livejournal.com
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>>> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
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>>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>>>
>>> On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Doc wrote:
>>>
 May I ask what source you are recording from?  Is it an amplified
 source?
 **

  I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it
>>>

Re: Recording from Line-In

2006-09-06 Thread Sunshine
ok, bruce try this one. go into your volume control and select  your 
properties, and make sure ajust volume for recording is checked, now tab 
until you find your line in and in the advanced button try to check this box 
and then Record the audio source again. and let us know what happens.
- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In


> Recording volume. Maybe I should write an F.A.Q.
>
> Bruce
>
> -- 
> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
>
> Bruce Toews
> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Live Journal: http://coke_drinker.livejournal.com
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> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>
> On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Sunshine wrote:
>
>> Ok, Bruce, Are you refering to the playback or the recording volume?
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:24 AM
>> Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In
>>
>>
>>> I am using a Sound Blaster, not an onboard sound card.
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>> --
>>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>>> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
>>>
>>> Bruce Toews
>>> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Live Journal: http://coke_drinker.livejournal.com
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>>> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
>>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>>>
>>> On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Donald L. Roberts wrote:
>>>
 On both of my desktops, the one in the rear is called line in,
 and the one in front next to the mike jack is called aux.  Make
 sure that you are attempting to regulate the correct jack.

 Don Roberts

 - Original Message -
 From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 6:32 AM
 Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In


 It's a line-out jack with a predetermined volume. At any rate,
 the line in
 setting under record properties should have *some* effect,
 shouldn't it?

 bruce


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Fw: If you had to buy a mp3 player today

2006-09-06 Thread Nick G
This info comes from a rather trusted source.
- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Cavallaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Nick G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today


> Navigating menus in rock box is easy.  Just press the record button which 
> is your menu key and you can arrow up and down through your menus.  In 
> terms of recording while in the recording screen all though you can set 
> your sample rate and bit rate, there is no way at least as far as I can 
> tell when your in pause mode and when your not.
> I am recording an iaudio x5 overview for Brian hartgens portable player 
> portle which can be found at
> http://www.hartgen.org/portable.html
>- Original Message - 
> From: "Nick G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Rich rc's podcast 15 is out enjoy!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 4:23 PM
> Subject: Fw: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>
>
>> Uh, answer this call please?
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Bobcat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:17 PM
>> Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>>
>>
>>> Hi Nick.  I sure would be interested in a voice walkthrough of this 
>>> product.
>>> Sweet that Rockbox supports it but I'd like to know how it operates and 
>>> how
>>> easy it is to navigate.  An example is while recording.  When you pause
>>> several times,how do you know if it is paused or not.  How many steps 
>>> does
>>> it take to do a quick voice recording?  What is the navigation method 
>>> for
>>> menus.
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Nick G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 7:27 PM
>>> Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>>>
>>>
 I, personally, would by the IAUdio X5 from www.cowonamerica.com.  It 
 has a
 hard drive, is made out of nice metal, and cah use rock box, which 
 makes
 the
 mp3 player talk.  It, even out of the box, can play ogg Vorbis, which 
 is
 something I look for always.
 - Original Message - 
 From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:57 PM
 Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today


> What features do you want it to have?  Ultimately, I think one of the
> best
> is Book Port, but then you may not be looking for a multi purpose 
> device
> such as Book Port.  The great thing about it is that it is totally
> accessible, and since it uses flash memory cards up to 4 gigabytes you
> can
> have a lot of music with you, and have more than one card so it is 
> easier
> to have a large library of music, books, etc. and play them all on one
> unit.
>
> At half the price of the Book Port is the Olympus WS320M digital 
> recorder
> and MP3 player.  It plays both MP3 and WMA, records only in WMA.  It 
> is
> very small, runs on 1 tripple A battery, and can store 1 gigabyte of
> files.  It has a USB interface that makes copying files to it a very 
> easy
> thing to do.
>
> There are lots of others that one could consider, and I'll just say 
> these
> two happen to be my personal favorites because I own and use both of 
> them
> regularly.
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Tate Luck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 3:36 PM
> Subject: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>
>
> : Yes,
> :
> :
> :
> : I wood like to buy a mp3 player. What should I buy?
> :
> : The best bang for the buck, and easy to use
> :
> :
> :
> : thanks.
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Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today

2006-09-06 Thread Arthur Barney
Hi Darrell,
RockBox is developing software for all iPods, except iPod Shuffle.
Arthur Barney
- Original Message - 
From: "Darrell Shandrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today


Hi Nick and all,

Wonder if anyone is selling any MP3 players preconfigured with Rockbox?
Now, I think that'd be a deal for one of the blindness products companies?

Darrell Shandrow - Shandrow Communications!
Technology consultant/instructor, network/systems administrator!
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Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by
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- Original Message - 
From: "Nick G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today


Rockbox, i know, plays WavPack, don't know about flac goes.
- Original Message - 
From: "André van Deventer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 4:57 PM
Subject: RE: If you had to buy a mp3 player today


Wonder if rockbox will play that?



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Nick G
Sent: 06 September 2006 10:27 PM
To: PC audio discussion list.
Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today

Andr,e the lossless vorbis format is called Flac, though I'm hearing that
WavPack is better, and it's also open source.  Why it isn't used more than
mp3, maybe because the public seem to flock to closed up formats.  People
like Apple don't seem to want anything to do with Vorbis, and mp3 seems to
have the name recognition.
Thanks,
nick
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From: "André van Deventer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 3:11 AM
Subject: RE: If you had to buy a mp3 player today


> Hi all
>
> Have just been wondering.  If vorbis  is such a popular format and so
> much better, why is it not more widely used than mp3 in e.g. music
services?
> Is
> there a lossless format for ogg vorbis?
>
> Andre
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Nick G
> Sent: 06 September 2006 03:52 AM
> To: PC audio discussion list.
> Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>
> Ogg Vorbis is a format that has twice the sound quality of mp3 at
> equivalent bitrates.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tate Luck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:39 PM
> Subject: RE: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> What is ogg Vorbis?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Behalf Of Nick G
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:27 PM
>> To: PC audio discussion list.
>> Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>>
>> I, personally, would by the IAUdio X5 from www.cowonamerica.com.  It
>> has a hard drive, is made out of nice metal, and cah use rock box,
>> which makes the
>>
>> mp3 player talk.  It, even out of the box, can play ogg Vorbis, which
>> is something I look for always.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>>
>>
>>> What features do you want it to have?  Ultimately, I think one of the
>>> best
>>
>>> is Book Port, but then you may not be looking for a multi purpose
>>> device such as Book Port.  The great thing about it is that it is
>>> totally accessible, and since it uses flash memory cards up to 4
>>> gigabytes you can
>>
>>> have a lot of music with you, and have more than one card so it is
>>> easier to have a large library of music, books, etc. and play them
>>> all on one unit.
>>>
>>> At half the price of the Book Port is the Olympus WS320M digital
>>> recorder and MP3 player.  It plays both MP3 and WMA, records only in
>>> WMA.  It is very small, runs on 1 tripple A battery, and can store 1
>>> gigabyte of files.  It has a USB interface that makes copying files
>>> to it a very easy thing to do.
>>>
>>> There are lots of others that one could consider, and I'll just say
>>> these two happen to be my personal favorites because I own and use
>>> both of them regularly.
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Tate Luck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
>>> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 3:36 PM
>>> Subject: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>>>
>>>
>>> : Yes,
>>> :
>>> :
>>> :
>>> : I wood like to buy a mp3 player. What should I buy?
>>> :
>>> : The best bang for the buck, and easy to use
>>> :
>>> :
>>> :
>>> : thanks.
>>> :
>>

Re: Recording from Line-In

2006-09-06 Thread Bruce Toews
If that were the case, then (a) I wouldn't have gotten any sound, as 
opposed to the overdriven sound I got, and (b) switching to another 
recording source would have had no effect.

Bruce

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On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Sunshine wrote:

> ok, Bruce, Are you sure you selected your sound card in the volume controls?
> if you just gotten a new sound card it might have defualted to your on
> board chip for sound.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 12:47 PM
> Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In
>
>
>> If I check another recording source, it no longer records from line in; if
>> I mute the playback volume for line, it has no effect at all.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>> --
>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
>>
>> Bruce Toews
>> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Live Journal: http://coke_drinker.livejournal.com
>> Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
>> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>>
>> On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Gary King wrote:
>>
>>> Bruce,
>>>
>>> You said that changing the volume slider on the line-in source doesn't
>>> change the resulting recording.  If you use the checkbox associated with
>>> the
>>> slider to mute the source, does it result in silence?
>>>
>>> Gary King
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:50 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In
>>>
>>>
 No, I've definitely got line-in selected. I tried setting the line-in
 volume to zero, and it's still overdriven.

 Bruce

 --
 Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
 gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV

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 On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Bobcat wrote:

> Strange that setting the line in level in record properties isn't
> working.
> You do have line in selected?  Is it possible you have "what you hear"
> or
> mono or stereo mix selected as your recording source instead?
>
> I have a Creative Audigy and notice I have to set my line in level very
> low,
> about 20% or less but at least it works.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:21 AM
> Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In
>
>
>> It is an APH desktop tape recorder, and I am recording from the
>> line-out
>> jack. If I have the line-in recording source checked, the volume can
>> be
>> 1
>> or 100 and the actual volume of the recording is the same.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>> --
>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
>>
>> Bruce Toews
>> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Live Journal: http://coke_drinker.livejournal.com
>> Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
>> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
>> http://www.ogts.net
>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>>
>> On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Doc wrote:
>>
>>> May I ask what source you are recording from?  Is it an amplified
>>> source?
>>> **
>>>
>>>  I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it
>>> robert Doc Wright
>>> http://www.wrightplaceinc.net
>>> msn
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 7:12 AM
>>> Subject: Recording from Line-In
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm trying to record from a line-in jack on a computer. I've got the
>>> patch
>>> cord plugged into the right jack. Adjusting the playback volume works
>>> as
>>> one would expect. But no mat

Re: Recording from Line-In

2006-09-06 Thread Sunshine
ok, Bruce, Are you sure you selected your sound card in the volume controls?
 if you just gotten a new sound card it might have defualted to your on 
board chip for sound.
- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In


> If I check another recording source, it no longer records from line in; if
> I mute the playback volume for line, it has no effect at all.
>
> Bruce
>
> -- 
> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
>
> Bruce Toews
> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Live Journal: http://coke_drinker.livejournal.com
> Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>
> On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Gary King wrote:
>
>> Bruce,
>>
>> You said that changing the volume slider on the line-in source doesn't
>> change the resulting recording.  If you use the checkbox associated with 
>> the
>> slider to mute the source, does it result in silence?
>>
>> Gary King
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In
>>
>>
>>> No, I've definitely got line-in selected. I tried setting the line-in
>>> volume to zero, and it's still overdriven.
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>> --
>>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>>> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
>>>
>>> Bruce Toews
>>> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Live Journal: http://coke_drinker.livejournal.com
>>> Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
>>> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
>>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>>>
>>> On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Bobcat wrote:
>>>
 Strange that setting the line in level in record properties isn't
 working.
 You do have line in selected?  Is it possible you have "what you hear" 
 or
 mono or stereo mix selected as your recording source instead?

 I have a Creative Audigy and notice I have to set my line in level very
 low,
 about 20% or less but at least it works.
 - Original Message -
 From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:21 AM
 Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In


> It is an APH desktop tape recorder, and I am recording from the 
> line-out
> jack. If I have the line-in recording source checked, the volume can 
> be
> 1
> or 100 and the actual volume of the recording is the same.
>
> Bruce
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> On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Doc wrote:
>
>> May I ask what source you are recording from?  Is it an amplified
>> source?
>> **
>>
>>  I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it
>> robert Doc Wright
>> http://www.wrightplaceinc.net
>> msn
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>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 7:12 AM
>> Subject: Recording from Line-In
>>
>>
>> I'm trying to record from a line-in jack on a computer. I've got the
>> patch
>> cord plugged into the right jack. Adjusting the playback volume works
>> as
>> one would expect. But no matter where I adjust the line-in volume in
>> record properties, it's too loud and distorts. I even set it to 1%,
>> with
>> the save overdriven result. What would I be doing wrong here?
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>>
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Re: Recording from Line-In

2006-09-06 Thread Bruce Toews
Recording volume. Maybe I should write an F.A.Q.

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On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Sunshine wrote:

> Ok, Bruce, Are you refering to the playback or the recording volume?
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:24 AM
> Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In
>
>
>> I am using a Sound Blaster, not an onboard sound card.
>> Bruce
>>
>> --
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>> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
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>> On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Donald L. Roberts wrote:
>>
>>> On both of my desktops, the one in the rear is called line in,
>>> and the one in front next to the mike jack is called aux.  Make
>>> sure that you are attempting to regulate the correct jack.
>>>
>>> Don Roberts
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 6:32 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In
>>>
>>>
>>> It's a line-out jack with a predetermined volume. At any rate,
>>> the line in
>>> setting under record properties should have *some* effect,
>>> shouldn't it?
>>>
>>> bruce
>>>
>>>
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Re: Recording from Line-In

2006-09-06 Thread Sunshine
try to use the headphone jack instead of the line out  this way you can 
regulate the volume comming from the tape player.
- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In


> It is an APH desktop tape recorder, and I am recording from the line-out
> jack. If I have the line-in recording source checked, the volume can be 1
> or 100 and the actual volume of the recording is the same.
>
> Bruce
>
> -- 
> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
>
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>
> On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Doc wrote:
>
>> May I ask what source you are recording from?  Is it an amplified source?
>> **
>>
>>  I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it
>> robert Doc Wright
>> http://www.wrightplaceinc.net
>> msn
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 7:12 AM
>> Subject: Recording from Line-In
>>
>>
>> I'm trying to record from a line-in jack on a computer. I've got the 
>> patch
>> cord plugged into the right jack. Adjusting the playback volume works as
>> one would expect. But no matter where I adjust the line-in volume in
>> record properties, it's too loud and distorts. I even set it to 1%, with
>> the save overdriven result. What would I be doing wrong here?
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>>
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Re: Recording from Line-In

2006-09-06 Thread Sunshine
Ok, Bruce, Are you refering to the playback or the recording volume?
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Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In


>I am using a Sound Blaster, not an onboard sound card.
> Bruce
>
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> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
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>
> On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Donald L. Roberts wrote:
>
>> On both of my desktops, the one in the rear is called line in,
>> and the one in front next to the mike jack is called aux.  Make
>> sure that you are attempting to regulate the correct jack.
>>
>> Don Roberts
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 6:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In
>>
>>
>> It's a line-out jack with a predetermined volume. At any rate,
>> the line in
>> setting under record properties should have *some* effect,
>> shouldn't it?
>>
>> bruce
>>
>>
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Re: Recording from Line-In

2006-09-06 Thread Bruce Toews
You also get worse sound, i.e. a hum and so forth. I'll just record this 
at home, where things work as they should.

Bruce

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On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Sunshine wrote:

> try to use the headphone jack instead of the line out  this way you can
> regulate the volume comming from the tape player.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:21 AM
> Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In
>
>
>> It is an APH desktop tape recorder, and I am recording from the line-out
>> jack. If I have the line-in recording source checked, the volume can be 1
>> or 100 and the actual volume of the recording is the same.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>> --
>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
>>
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>>
>> On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Doc wrote:
>>
>>> May I ask what source you are recording from?  Is it an amplified source?
>>> **
>>>
>>>  I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it
>>> robert Doc Wright
>>> http://www.wrightplaceinc.net
>>> msn
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 7:12 AM
>>> Subject: Recording from Line-In
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm trying to record from a line-in jack on a computer. I've got the
>>> patch
>>> cord plugged into the right jack. Adjusting the playback volume works as
>>> one would expect. But no matter where I adjust the line-in volume in
>>> record properties, it's too loud and distorts. I even set it to 1%, with
>>> the save overdriven result. What would I be doing wrong here?
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>>
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Re: Recording from Line-In

2006-09-06 Thread Bruce Toews
Deep breath, Bruce. My source is a line out jack, which consequently has 
no volume control. Even if the volume is set to 0 for line-in on the 
computer, zero, I still get the overdriven sound. I am assuming a defect 
in the sound card.

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On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Sunshine wrote:

> have you tried, to lower, the volume of the source you are recording from
> bruce?
> this might fix your problems  and here is another question for you are you
> using the headphone jack?
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:12 AM
> Subject: Recording from Line-In
>
>
>> I'm trying to record from a line-in jack on a computer. I've got the patch
>> cord plugged into the right jack. Adjusting the playback volume works as
>> one would expect. But no matter where I adjust the line-in volume in
>> record properties, it's too loud and distorts. I even set it to 1%, with
>> the save overdriven result. What would I be doing wrong here?
>>
>> Bruce
>>
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>> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
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Re: Recording from Line-In

2006-09-06 Thread Sunshine
have you tried, to lower, the volume of the source you are recording from 
bruce?
this might fix your problems  and here is another question for you are you 
using the headphone jack?
- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:12 AM
Subject: Recording from Line-In


> I'm trying to record from a line-in jack on a computer. I've got the patch
> cord plugged into the right jack. Adjusting the playback volume works as
> one would expect. But no matter where I adjust the line-in volume in
> record properties, it's too loud and distorts. I even set it to 1%, with
> the save overdriven result. What would I be doing wrong here?
>
> Bruce
>
> -- 
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> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
>
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Re: Recording from Line-In

2006-09-06 Thread Bruce Toews
Just an average run-of-the-mill sound card is all you need, plus a program 
such as Gold Wave, Sound Forge, or a few others that are popular. You 
would, in short, connect the line out of your tape machine into the line 
in of your computer, set the volume properly (which is where I'm getting 
hung up here, it works just fine for me at home), and use your sound 
editor to record, clean up, and save the files. To go into any more detail 
than that would require a tutorial, which I'm sure exists somewhere.

Bruce

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On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, frank deweese wrote:

> Bruce:  Could you explain to me how I can copy my old casets to my computer?
> Do I need a duel sound card?  How involved is it?
>
> thanks for any assistance.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 1:47 PM
> Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In
>
>
>> If I check another recording source, it no longer records from line in; if
>> I mute the playback volume for line, it has no effect at all.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
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>> On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Gary King wrote:
>>
>>> Bruce,
>>>
>>> You said that changing the volume slider on the line-in source doesn't
>>> change the resulting recording.  If you use the checkbox associated with
>>> the
>>> slider to mute the source, does it result in silence?
>>>
>>> Gary King
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:50 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In
>>>
>>>
 No, I've definitely got line-in selected. I tried setting the line-in
 volume to zero, and it's still overdriven.

 Bruce

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 On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Bobcat wrote:

> Strange that setting the line in level in record properties isn't
> working.
> You do have line in selected?  Is it possible you have "what you hear"
> or
> mono or stereo mix selected as your recording source instead?
>
> I have a Creative Audigy and notice I have to set my line in level very
> low,
> about 20% or less but at least it works.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:21 AM
> Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In
>
>
>> It is an APH desktop tape recorder, and I am recording from the
>> line-out
>> jack. If I have the line-in recording source checked, the volume can
>> be
>> 1
>> or 100 and the actual volume of the recording is the same.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>> --
>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
>>
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>>
>> On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Doc wrote:
>>
>>> May I ask what source you are recording from?  Is it an amplified
>>> source?
>>> **
>>>
>>>  I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it
>>> robert Doc Wright
>>> http://www.wrightplaceinc.net
>>> msn
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
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>>> To: 

Re: Recording from Line-In

2006-09-06 Thread frank deweese
Bruce:  Could you explain to me how I can copy my old casets to my computer? 
Do I need a duel sound card?  How involved is it?

thanks for any assistance.
- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In


> If I check another recording source, it no longer records from line in; if
> I mute the playback volume for line, it has no effect at all.
>
> Bruce
>
> -- 
> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
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>
> On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Gary King wrote:
>
>> Bruce,
>>
>> You said that changing the volume slider on the line-in source doesn't
>> change the resulting recording.  If you use the checkbox associated with 
>> the
>> slider to mute the source, does it result in silence?
>>
>> Gary King
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In
>>
>>
>>> No, I've definitely got line-in selected. I tried setting the line-in
>>> volume to zero, and it's still overdriven.
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>> --
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>>> On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Bobcat wrote:
>>>
 Strange that setting the line in level in record properties isn't
 working.
 You do have line in selected?  Is it possible you have "what you hear" 
 or
 mono or stereo mix selected as your recording source instead?

 I have a Creative Audigy and notice I have to set my line in level very
 low,
 about 20% or less but at least it works.
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 Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:21 AM
 Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In


> It is an APH desktop tape recorder, and I am recording from the 
> line-out
> jack. If I have the line-in recording source checked, the volume can 
> be
> 1
> or 100 and the actual volume of the recording is the same.
>
> Bruce
>
> --
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> On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Doc wrote:
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>> May I ask what source you are recording from?  Is it an amplified
>> source?
>> **
>>
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>> Subject: Recording from Line-In
>>
>>
>> I'm trying to record from a line-in jack on a computer. I've got the
>> patch
>> cord plugged into the right jack. Adjusting the playback volume works
>> as
>> one would expect. But no matter where I adjust the line-in volume in
>> record properties, it's too loud and distorts. I even set it to 1%,
>> with
>> the save overdriven result. What would I be doing wrong here?
>>
>> Bruce
>>
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Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today

2006-09-06 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Nick and all,

Wonder if anyone is selling any MP3 players preconfigured with Rockbox? 
Now, I think that'd be a deal for one of the blindness products companies?

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Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 3:06 PM
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Rockbox, i know, plays WavPack, don't know about flac goes.
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Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 4:57 PM
Subject: RE: If you had to buy a mp3 player today


Wonder if rockbox will play that?



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Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today

Andr,e the lossless vorbis format is called Flac, though I'm hearing that
WavPack is better, and it's also open source.  Why it isn't used more than
mp3, maybe because the public seem to flock to closed up formats.  People
like Apple don't seem to want anything to do with Vorbis, and mp3 seems to
have the name recognition.
Thanks,
nick
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Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 3:11 AM
Subject: RE: If you had to buy a mp3 player today


> Hi all
>
> Have just been wondering.  If vorbis  is such a popular format and so
> much better, why is it not more widely used than mp3 in e.g. music
services?
> Is
> there a lossless format for ogg vorbis?
>
> Andre
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Nick G
> Sent: 06 September 2006 03:52 AM
> To: PC audio discussion list.
> Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>
> Ogg Vorbis is a format that has twice the sound quality of mp3 at
> equivalent bitrates.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tate Luck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:39 PM
> Subject: RE: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> What is ogg Vorbis?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Behalf Of Nick G
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:27 PM
>> To: PC audio discussion list.
>> Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>>
>> I, personally, would by the IAUdio X5 from www.cowonamerica.com.  It
>> has a hard drive, is made out of nice metal, and cah use rock box,
>> which makes the
>>
>> mp3 player talk.  It, even out of the box, can play ogg Vorbis, which
>> is something I look for always.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>>
>>
>>> What features do you want it to have?  Ultimately, I think one of the
>>> best
>>
>>> is Book Port, but then you may not be looking for a multi purpose
>>> device such as Book Port.  The great thing about it is that it is
>>> totally accessible, and since it uses flash memory cards up to 4
>>> gigabytes you can
>>
>>> have a lot of music with you, and have more than one card so it is
>>> easier to have a large library of music, books, etc. and play them
>>> all on one unit.
>>>
>>> At half the price of the Book Port is the Olympus WS320M digital
>>> recorder and MP3 player.  It plays both MP3 and WMA, records only in
>>> WMA.  It is very small, runs on 1 tripple A battery, and can store 1
>>> gigabyte of files.  It has a USB interface that makes copying files
>>> to it a very easy thing to do.
>>>
>>> There are lots of others that one could consider, and I'll just say
>>> these two happen to be my personal favorites because I own and use
>>> both of them regularly.
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Tate Luck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
>>> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 3:36 PM
>>> Subject: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>>>
>>>
>>> : Yes,
>>> :
>>> :
>>> :
>>> : I wood like to buy a mp3 player. What should I buy?
>>> :
>>> : The best bang for the buck, and easy to use
>>> :
>>> :
>>> :
>>> : thanks.
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Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today

2006-09-06 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Terese and all,

I feel the Milestone is overpriced for its limited feature set.  Add the 
ability to play DRM formats like protected WMA and add support for 
verbalizing ID3 tags, replaceable batteries, etc.  Then, maybe, we're movin' 
in the right direction on this product.

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Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 3:11 PM
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> Thanks much!  I'll give it a try
>
> Terese
>
> At 04:39 PM 9/6/2006, you wrote:
>>welli bought myself a milestone, a very small mp3 player in whitch
>>you can put a sd card.
>>you can store music or books or whatever on different cards if you like.
>>it has speech support and the abbility of reading daisy books as well.
>>it evenhas a small loudspeaker and is as small as a credit card. it
>>costs you about 370 euros
>>
>>aad
>>On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:36:13 -0400, Tate Luck wrote:
>>
>> >Yes,
>>
>> >
>>
>> >I wood like to buy a mp3 player. What should I buy?
>>
>> >The best bang for the buck, and easy to use
>>
>> >
>>
>> >thanks.
>>
>>
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Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today

2006-09-06 Thread Terese Ann Goren
Thanks much!  I'll give it a try

Terese

At 04:39 PM 9/6/2006, you wrote:
>welli bought myself a milestone, a very small mp3 player in whitch 
>you can put a sd card.
>you can store music or books or whatever on different cards if you like.
>it has speech support and the abbility of reading daisy books as well.
>it evenhas a small loudspeaker and is as small as a credit card. it 
>costs you about 370 euros
>
>aad
>On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:36:13 -0400, Tate Luck wrote:
>
> >Yes,
>
> >
>
> >I wood like to buy a mp3 player. What should I buy?
>
> >The best bang for the buck, and easy to use
>
> >
>
> >thanks.
>
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Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today

2006-09-06 Thread Nick G
Rockbox, i know, plays WavPack, don't know about flac goes.
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From: "André van Deventer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 4:57 PM
Subject: RE: If you had to buy a mp3 player today


Wonder if rockbox will play that?



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Sent: 06 September 2006 10:27 PM
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Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today

Andr,e the lossless vorbis format is called Flac, though I'm hearing that
WavPack is better, and it's also open source.  Why it isn't used more than
mp3, maybe because the public seem to flock to closed up formats.  People
like Apple don't seem to want anything to do with Vorbis, and mp3 seems to
have the name recognition.
Thanks,
nick
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To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 3:11 AM
Subject: RE: If you had to buy a mp3 player today


> Hi all
>
> Have just been wondering.  If vorbis  is such a popular format and so
> much better, why is it not more widely used than mp3 in e.g. music
services?
> Is
> there a lossless format for ogg vorbis?
>
> Andre
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Nick G
> Sent: 06 September 2006 03:52 AM
> To: PC audio discussion list.
> Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>
> Ogg Vorbis is a format that has twice the sound quality of mp3 at
> equivalent bitrates.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tate Luck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:39 PM
> Subject: RE: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> What is ogg Vorbis?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Behalf Of Nick G
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:27 PM
>> To: PC audio discussion list.
>> Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>>
>> I, personally, would by the IAUdio X5 from www.cowonamerica.com.  It
>> has a hard drive, is made out of nice metal, and cah use rock box,
>> which makes the
>>
>> mp3 player talk.  It, even out of the box, can play ogg Vorbis, which
>> is something I look for always.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>>
>>
>>> What features do you want it to have?  Ultimately, I think one of the
>>> best
>>
>>> is Book Port, but then you may not be looking for a multi purpose
>>> device such as Book Port.  The great thing about it is that it is
>>> totally accessible, and since it uses flash memory cards up to 4
>>> gigabytes you can
>>
>>> have a lot of music with you, and have more than one card so it is
>>> easier to have a large library of music, books, etc. and play them
>>> all on one unit.
>>>
>>> At half the price of the Book Port is the Olympus WS320M digital
>>> recorder and MP3 player.  It plays both MP3 and WMA, records only in
>>> WMA.  It is very small, runs on 1 tripple A battery, and can store 1
>>> gigabyte of files.  It has a USB interface that makes copying files
>>> to it a very easy thing to do.
>>>
>>> There are lots of others that one could consider, and I'll just say
>>> these two happen to be my personal favorites because I own and use
>>> both of them regularly.
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Tate Luck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
>>> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 3:36 PM
>>> Subject: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>>>
>>>
>>> : Yes,
>>> :
>>> :
>>> :
>>> : I wood like to buy a mp3 player. What should I buy?
>>> :
>>> : The best bang for the buck, and easy to use
>>> :
>>> :
>>> :
>>> : thanks.
>>> :
>>> :
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Re: Audacity

2006-09-06 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hello!
There is a blind users mailing list for audacity.-
Now i dont have the subscribtion information but i can get back tol the list 
if someone wants it.
/Anders.
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Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 2:47 AM
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>I don't think you can really edit with it to any good degree. I don't know
> that the brackets work to select stuff to modify or remove. It probably
> works OK for just plain recording.
>
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>
>> HellO!
>> Its a great program i think.
>> But its hard to tell since i really dont know what you want to do with 
>> it.
>> /Anders.
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>> Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 8:37 PM
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>>
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Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today

2006-09-06 Thread aad leeflang
welli bought myself a milestone, a very small mp3 player in whitch you can put 
a sd card.
you can store music or books or whatever on different cards if you like.
it has speech support and the abbility of reading daisy books as well.
it evenhas a small loudspeaker and is as small as a credit card. it costs you 
about 370 euros

aad
On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:36:13 -0400, Tate Luck wrote:

>Yes,

> 

>I wood like to buy a mp3 player. What should I buy?

>The best bang for the buck, and easy to use

> 

>thanks.


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RE: If you had to buy a mp3 player today

2006-09-06 Thread André van Deventer
Wonder if rockbox will play that?

 

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To: PC audio discussion list. 
Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today

Andr,e the lossless vorbis format is called Flac, though I'm hearing that
WavPack is better, and it's also open source.  Why it isn't used more than
mp3, maybe because the public seem to flock to closed up formats.  People
like Apple don't seem to want anything to do with Vorbis, and mp3 seems to
have the name recognition.
Thanks,
nick
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Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 3:11 AM
Subject: RE: If you had to buy a mp3 player today


> Hi all
>
> Have just been wondering.  If vorbis  is such a popular format and so 
> much better, why is it not more widely used than mp3 in e.g. music
services?
> Is
> there a lossless format for ogg vorbis?
>
> Andre
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Nick G
> Sent: 06 September 2006 03:52 AM
> To: PC audio discussion list.
> Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>
> Ogg Vorbis is a format that has twice the sound quality of mp3 at 
> equivalent bitrates.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tate Luck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:39 PM
> Subject: RE: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> What is ogg Vorbis?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Behalf Of Nick G
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:27 PM
>> To: PC audio discussion list.
>> Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>>
>> I, personally, would by the IAUdio X5 from www.cowonamerica.com.  It
>> has a hard drive, is made out of nice metal, and cah use rock box,
>> which makes the
>>
>> mp3 player talk.  It, even out of the box, can play ogg Vorbis, which
>> is something I look for always.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>>
>>
>>> What features do you want it to have?  Ultimately, I think one of the
>>> best
>>
>>> is Book Port, but then you may not be looking for a multi purpose
>>> device such as Book Port.  The great thing about it is that it is
>>> totally accessible, and since it uses flash memory cards up to 4
>>> gigabytes you can
>>
>>> have a lot of music with you, and have more than one card so it is
>>> easier to have a large library of music, books, etc. and play them
>>> all on one unit.
>>>
>>> At half the price of the Book Port is the Olympus WS320M digital
>>> recorder and MP3 player.  It plays both MP3 and WMA, records only in
>>> WMA.  It is very small, runs on 1 tripple A battery, and can store 1
>>> gigabyte of files.  It has a USB interface that makes copying files
>>> to it a very easy thing to do.
>>>
>>> There are lots of others that one could consider, and I'll just say
>>> these two happen to be my personal favorites because I own and use
>>> both of them regularly.
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Tate Luck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
>>> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 3:36 PM
>>> Subject: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>>>
>>>
>>> : Yes,
>>> :
>>> :
>>> :
>>> : I wood like to buy a mp3 player. What should I buy?
>>> :
>>> : The best bang for the buck, and easy to use
>>> :
>>> :
>>> :
>>> : thanks.
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Re: Open source

2006-09-06 Thread Nick G
Open source means that the audio encoers and decoders release their 
sourcecode for modification.
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> Could someone please explain what open source means, in connection with
> compressed audio formats?
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> Thanks,  Ted
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Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today

2006-09-06 Thread Nick G
Number one it is about $399, i believe.  number two, it holds about 40 Gigs 
of music, I believe for that price.  Number three, you can download a 
utility, if you are using Rockbox on it, to record directory and file name 
voices for rockbox.
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Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today


> Nick I have a couple of questions.
>
> 1. how expensive is the iaudio x5 and,
> 2.   how much deos it hold.
>
> 3. how do you know what tune you are looking for in other words how
> do you know where you are in the menuis?
> thanks in advance.
> At 09:27 PM 9/5/2006, you wrote:
>>I, personally, would by the IAUdio X5 from www.cowonamerica.com.  It has a
>>hard drive, is made out of nice metal, and cah use rock box, which makes 
>>the
>>mp3 player talk.  It, even out of the box, can play ogg Vorbis, which is
>>something I look for always.
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:57 PM
>>Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>>
>>
>> > What features do you want it to have?  Ultimately, I think one of the 
>> > best
>> > is Book Port, but then you may not be looking for a multi purpose 
>> > device
>> > such as Book Port.  The great thing about it is that it is totally
>> > accessible, and since it uses flash memory cards up to 4 gigabytes you 
>> > can
>> > have a lot of music with you, and have more than one card so it is 
>> > easier
>> > to have a large library of music, books, etc. and play them all on one
>> > unit.
>> >
>> > At half the price of the Book Port is the Olympus WS320M digital 
>> > recorder
>> > and MP3 player.  It plays both MP3 and WMA, records only in WMA.  It is
>> > very small, runs on 1 tripple A battery, and can store 1 gigabyte of
>> > files.  It has a USB interface that makes copying files to it a very 
>> > easy
>> > thing to do.
>> >
>> > There are lots of others that one could consider, and I'll just say 
>> > these
>> > two happen to be my personal favorites because I own and use both of 
>> > them
>> > regularly.
>> >
>> >
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: "Tate Luck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
>> > Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 3:36 PM
>> > Subject: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>> >
>> >
>> > : Yes,
>> > :
>> > :
>> > :
>> > : I wood like to buy a mp3 player. What should I buy?
>> > :
>> > : The best bang for the buck, and easy to use
>> > :
>> > :
>> > :
>> > : thanks.
>> > :
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Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today

2006-09-06 Thread Nick G
Ah, well, if it's the flash based mp3 players you want, then I'm not as sure 
as I once was.  Cowon does make some of those.  i would've before chosen any 
player by Luxpro, but the American dealer for Luxpro seems to have 
disappeared.
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Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 4:01 AM
Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today


> this sounds fantastic and all around
>  supurb. Now, if one of you nice people has $299 or $349 to buy one,
> you got more money than me.
> I just don't have the necessary cash at the moment, and by the time I
> do, a better model will probably be out.
>
>
>
> At 08:27 PM 9/5/2006, you wrote:
>>I, personally, would by the IAUdio X5 from www.cowonamerica.com.  It has a
>>hard drive, is made out of nice metal, and cah use rock box, which makes 
>>the
>>mp3 player talk.  It, even out of the box, can play ogg Vorbis, which is
>>something I look for always.
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:57 PM
>>Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>>
>>
>> > What features do you want it to have?  Ultimately, I think one of the 
>> > best
>> > is Book Port, but then you may not be looking for a multi purpose 
>> > device
>> > such as Book Port.  The great thing about it is that it is totally
>> > accessible, and since it uses flash memory cards up to 4 gigabytes you 
>> > can
>> > have a lot of music with you, and have more than one card so it is 
>> > easier
>> > to have a large library of music, books, etc. and play them all on one
>> > unit.
>> >
>> > At half the price of the Book Port is the Olympus WS320M digital 
>> > recorder
>> > and MP3 player.  It plays both MP3 and WMA, records only in WMA.  It is
>> > very small, runs on 1 tripple A battery, and can store 1 gigabyte of
>> > files.  It has a USB interface that makes copying files to it a very 
>> > easy
>> > thing to do.
>> >
>> > There are lots of others that one could consider, and I'll just say 
>> > these
>> > two happen to be my personal favorites because I own and use both of 
>> > them
>> > regularly.
>> >
>> >
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: "Tate Luck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
>> > Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 3:36 PM
>> > Subject: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>> >
>> >
>> > : Yes,
>> > :
>> > :
>> > :
>> > : I wood like to buy a mp3 player. What should I buy?
>> > :
>> > : The best bang for the buck, and easy to use
>> > :
>> > :
>> > :
>> > : thanks.
>> > :
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Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today

2006-09-06 Thread Nick G
Andr,e the lossless vorbis format is called Flac, though I'm hearing that 
WavPack is better, and it's also open source.  Why it isn't used more than 
mp3, maybe because the public seem to flock to closed up formats.  People 
like Apple don't seem to want anything to do with Vorbis, and mp3 seems to 
have the name recognition.
Thanks,
nick
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To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 3:11 AM
Subject: RE: If you had to buy a mp3 player today


> Hi all
>
> Have just been wondering.  If vorbis  is such a popular format and so much
> better, why is it not more widely used than mp3 in e.g. music services? 
> Is
> there a lossless format for ogg vorbis?
>
> Andre
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Nick G
> Sent: 06 September 2006 03:52 AM
> To: PC audio discussion list.
> Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>
> Ogg Vorbis is a format that has twice the sound quality of mp3 at 
> equivalent
> bitrates.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tate Luck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:39 PM
> Subject: RE: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> What is ogg Vorbis?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Behalf Of Nick G
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:27 PM
>> To: PC audio discussion list.
>> Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>>
>> I, personally, would by the IAUdio X5 from www.cowonamerica.com.  It
>> has a hard drive, is made out of nice metal, and cah use rock box,
>> which makes the
>>
>> mp3 player talk.  It, even out of the box, can play ogg Vorbis, which
>> is something I look for always.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>>
>>
>>> What features do you want it to have?  Ultimately, I think one of the
>>> best
>>
>>> is Book Port, but then you may not be looking for a multi purpose
>>> device such as Book Port.  The great thing about it is that it is
>>> totally accessible, and since it uses flash memory cards up to 4
>>> gigabytes you can
>>
>>> have a lot of music with you, and have more than one card so it is
>>> easier to have a large library of music, books, etc. and play them
>>> all on one unit.
>>>
>>> At half the price of the Book Port is the Olympus WS320M digital
>>> recorder and MP3 player.  It plays both MP3 and WMA, records only in
>>> WMA.  It is very small, runs on 1 tripple A battery, and can store 1
>>> gigabyte of files.  It has a USB interface that makes copying files
>>> to it a very easy thing to do.
>>>
>>> There are lots of others that one could consider, and I'll just say
>>> these two happen to be my personal favorites because I own and use
>>> both of them regularly.
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Tate Luck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
>>> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 3:36 PM
>>> Subject: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>>>
>>>
>>> : Yes,
>>> :
>>> :
>>> :
>>> : I wood like to buy a mp3 player. What should I buy?
>>> :
>>> : The best bang for the buck, and easy to use
>>> :
>>> :
>>> :
>>> : thanks.
>>> :
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making wav files out of .m,idi files

2006-09-06 Thread Richard Claypool
Hi,

What program should be used to save the sounds of a mid as a wave file?  I 
know you can't convert it, but I'm sure there has to be a way to get the 
synth tones into a wave file short of turning on the what you hear feature 
on the soundcard?

Also, my friend has an onboard soundcard with realy realy bad synth banks. 
is there a software collection of synthbanks that would sound better?

Rickness 


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Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today

2006-09-06 Thread Richard Claypool
How much are these devices?

Rickarama

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Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 5:57 PM
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> What features do you want it to have?  Ultimately, I think one of the best 
> is Book Port, but then you may not be looking for a multi purpose device 
> such as Book Port.  The great thing about it is that it is totally 
> accessible, and since it uses flash memory cards up to 4 gigabytes you can 
> have a lot of music with you, and have more than one card so it is easier 
> to have a large library of music, books, etc. and play them all on one 
> unit.
>
> At half the price of the Book Port is the Olympus WS320M digital recorder 
> and MP3 player.  It plays both MP3 and WMA, records only in WMA.  It is 
> very small, runs on 1 tripple A battery, and can store 1 gigabyte of 
> files.  It has a USB interface that makes copying files to it a very easy 
> thing to do.
>
> There are lots of others that one could consider, and I'll just say these 
> two happen to be my personal favorites because I own and use both of them 
> regularly.
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Tate Luck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 3:36 PM
> Subject: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>
>
> : Yes,
> :
> :
> :
> : I wood like to buy a mp3 player. What should I buy?
> :
> : The best bang for the buck, and easy to use
> :
> :
> :
> : thanks.
> :
> :
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Re: Recording from Line-In

2006-09-06 Thread Bruce Toews
If I check another recording source, it no longer records from line in; if 
I mute the playback volume for line, it has no effect at all.

Bruce

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On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Gary King wrote:

> Bruce,
>
> You said that changing the volume slider on the line-in source doesn't
> change the resulting recording.  If you use the checkbox associated with the
> slider to mute the source, does it result in silence?
>
> Gary King
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:50 PM
> Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In
>
>
>> No, I've definitely got line-in selected. I tried setting the line-in
>> volume to zero, and it's still overdriven.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>> --
>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
>>
>> Bruce Toews
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>>
>> On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Bobcat wrote:
>>
>>> Strange that setting the line in level in record properties isn't
>>> working.
>>> You do have line in selected?  Is it possible you have "what you hear" or
>>> mono or stereo mix selected as your recording source instead?
>>>
>>> I have a Creative Audigy and notice I have to set my line in level very
>>> low,
>>> about 20% or less but at least it works.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:21 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In
>>>
>>>
 It is an APH desktop tape recorder, and I am recording from the line-out
 jack. If I have the line-in recording source checked, the volume can be
 1
 or 100 and the actual volume of the recording is the same.

 Bruce

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 On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Doc wrote:

> May I ask what source you are recording from?  Is it an amplified
> source?
> **
>
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>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 7:12 AM
> Subject: Recording from Line-In
>
>
> I'm trying to record from a line-in jack on a computer. I've got the
> patch
> cord plugged into the right jack. Adjusting the playback volume works
> as
> one would expect. But no matter where I adjust the line-in volume in
> record properties, it's too loud and distorts. I even set it to 1%,
> with
> the save overdriven result. What would I be doing wrong here?
>
> Bruce
>
>

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Re: Recording from Line-In

2006-09-06 Thread Gary King
Bruce,

You said that changing the volume slider on the line-in source doesn't 
change the resulting recording.  If you use the checkbox associated with the 
slider to mute the source, does it result in silence?

Gary King
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- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In


> No, I've definitely got line-in selected. I tried setting the line-in
> volume to zero, and it's still overdriven.
>
> Bruce
>
> -- 
> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
>
> Bruce Toews
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>
> On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Bobcat wrote:
>
>> Strange that setting the line in level in record properties isn't 
>> working.
>> You do have line in selected?  Is it possible you have "what you hear" or
>> mono or stereo mix selected as your recording source instead?
>>
>> I have a Creative Audigy and notice I have to set my line in level very 
>> low,
>> about 20% or less but at least it works.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:21 AM
>> Subject: Re: Recording from Line-In
>>
>>
>>> It is an APH desktop tape recorder, and I am recording from the line-out
>>> jack. If I have the line-in recording source checked, the volume can be 
>>> 1
>>> or 100 and the actual volume of the recording is the same.
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>> --
>>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>>> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
>>>
>>> Bruce Toews
>>> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Live Journal: http://coke_drinker.livejournal.com
>>> Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
>>> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
>>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>>>
>>> On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Doc wrote:
>>>
 May I ask what source you are recording from?  Is it an amplified 
 source?
 **

  I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it
 robert Doc Wright
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 - Original Message -
 From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 7:12 AM
 Subject: Recording from Line-In


 I'm trying to record from a line-in jack on a computer. I've got the
 patch
 cord plugged into the right jack. Adjusting the playback volume works 
 as
 one would expect. But no matter where I adjust the line-in volume in
 record properties, it's too loud and distorts. I even set it to 1%, 
 with
 the save overdriven result. What would I be doing wrong here?

 Bruce


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Multiple Shoutcast Servers, Plug-ins, and Internet Streaming Accounts

2006-09-06 Thread Jardata Mail Services
Hello guys!

On my system, there is currently a Shoutcast Server and my radio station is run 
through Winamp, with the Shoutcast Plug-in and a Sam Encoder Plug-in.  Lately, 
I decided to subscribe to one of the Streaming Servers for more band width.  I 
still plan to keep my onboard station and play it from time to time.  My 
question deals with setting up the streaming service account, Spacialnet.

Now, I'll be using a shoutcast server on their service, 40 listeners at 64k.  
Now with connecting to the service.  The server is on their web site, a 
Shoutcast Server.  If I use my Sam Encoder, can I setup connection streams with 
the same plug-in?  I see Sam Encoder has a new button and it apparently allows 
multiple accounts.  Can I just switch back and forth between each stream, 
Spacialnet and my own, just by selecting Sam Encoder accounts?  

Also, can I use the Shoutcast Plug-in for both accounts?  For example, I don't 
want to have to go in and type new stuff each time I use the Shoutcast Server.  
I would just like to go to preferences in Winamp and choose the plug-in I want 
to broadcast with.  Would I have to have multiple occurrences of the Shoutcast 
Plug-in in Winamp DSP area or can you use one as Sam Encoder does?  If you must 
use two, would I just copy one to a empty folder, rename the file and put it 
back in Winamp plug-ins folder--thereby having two Shoutcast Plug-ins in the 
same folder.  I see that the new Shoutcast Plug-in has the capability of having 
multiple accounts, but I found the new plug-in too difficult to use and 
returned to the old one.  

I guess I am working towards getting two streams going at the same time, but I 
want each one to work independently first; then I can switch back and forth 
between the two.

Also, when it comes to ports, do I use Port 8000 for the spacialnet shoutcast 
server as well or would they have a different one.  

then, could you check out the system by typing in the 
http://localhost:/index.html link or type in your ip address, like 
http://ip address:8/listen.pls?

Also, could I use the same DNS2go ip tracker for both accounts?

Thanks for indulging me in my many questions.  

James Robinson
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Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today

2006-09-06 Thread Brent Harding
I wonder if the digisette players would be the best, most accessible thing 
out? I heard once you navigate it to the proper file, you just pop it in a 
tape deck and press play. I thought I heard you could record in mp3 from it 
too, doubt you'd get CD quality sound out of that old tape machine this way 
though. I want something to load up podcasts and other longer shows to take 
with and sometimes play on the stereo. Are these worth it for the price, and 
will it sound good using it in the tape deck on the stereo? It'd be 
convenient, but I'm not sure on the quality.

- Original Message - 
From: "Jack Conti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 7:41 AM
Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today


> Nick I have a couple of questions.
>
> 1. how expensive is the iaudio x5 and,
> 2.   how much deos it hold.
>
> 3. how do you know what tune you are looking for in other words how
> do you know where you are in the menuis?
> thanks in advance.
> At 09:27 PM 9/5/2006, you wrote:
>>I, personally, would by the IAUdio X5 from www.cowonamerica.com.  It has a
>>hard drive, is made out of nice metal, and cah use rock box, which makes 
>>the
>>mp3 player talk.  It, even out of the box, can play ogg Vorbis, which is
>>something I look for always.
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:57 PM
>>Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>>
>>
>> > What features do you want it to have?  Ultimately, I think one of the 
>> > best
>> > is Book Port, but then you may not be looking for a multi purpose 
>> > device
>> > such as Book Port.  The great thing about it is that it is totally
>> > accessible, and since it uses flash memory cards up to 4 gigabytes you 
>> > can
>> > have a lot of music with you, and have more than one card so it is 
>> > easier
>> > to have a large library of music, books, etc. and play them all on one
>> > unit.
>> >
>> > At half the price of the Book Port is the Olympus WS320M digital 
>> > recorder
>> > and MP3 player.  It plays both MP3 and WMA, records only in WMA.  It is
>> > very small, runs on 1 tripple A battery, and can store 1 gigabyte of
>> > files.  It has a USB interface that makes copying files to it a very 
>> > easy
>> > thing to do.
>> >
>> > There are lots of others that one could consider, and I'll just say 
>> > these
>> > two happen to be my personal favorites because I own and use both of 
>> > them
>> > regularly.
>> >
>> >
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: "Tate Luck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
>> > Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 3:36 PM
>> > Subject: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>> >
>> >
>> > : Yes,
>> > :
>> > :
>> > :
>> > : I wood like to buy a mp3 player. What should I buy?
>> > :
>> > : The best bang for the buck, and easy to use
>> > :
>> > :
>> > :
>> > : thanks.
>> > :
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I Pod Shuffle

2006-09-06 Thread Terese Ann Goren

>Hey there,

Can anyone tell me if there is a driver for win98 that would work 
with the shuffle?

Thanks


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Open source

2006-09-06 Thread tedmart
Could someone please explain what open source means, in connection with 
compressed audio formats?

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Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today

2006-09-06 Thread Jack Conti
David oops I should have read your second message, there must be some 
kind of speech involved here?
At 09:54 PM 9/5/2006, you wrote:
>Book Port list price is $399 from American Printing House for the 
>Blind www.aph.org.  The Olympus w WS320m is around $200 and can be 
>purchased through places like Amazon.com.  Prices on the WS320M will 
>be different from place to place, but it is readily available on the 
>web, and some office supply and electronics stores probably also 
>carry the Olympus.
>
>
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>From: "Tate Luck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
>Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:27 PM
>Subject: RE: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>
>
>: How much does the mp3 players  cost?
>: Thanks for the INFO.
>:
>: -Original Message-
>: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>: On Behalf Of David Tanner
>: Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:57 PM
>: To: PC audio discussion list.
>: Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>:
>: What features do you want it to have?  Ultimately, I think one of the best
>: is Book Port, but then you may not be looking for a multi purpose device
>: such as Book Port.  The great thing about it is that it is totally
>: accessible, and since it uses flash memory cards up to 4 gigabytes you can
>: have a lot of music with you, and have more than one card so it is easier to
>: have a large library of music, books, etc. and play them all on one unit.
>:
>: At half the price of the Book Port is the Olympus WS320M digital recorder
>: and MP3 player.  It plays both MP3 and WMA, records only in WMA.  It is very
>: small, runs on 1 tripple A battery, and can store 1 gigabyte of files.  It
>: has a USB interface that makes copying files to it a very easy thing to do.
>:
>: There are lots of others that one could consider, and I'll just say these
>: two happen to be my personal favorites because I own and use both of them
>: regularly.
>:
>:
>: - Original Message -
>: From: "Tate Luck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>: To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
>: Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 3:36 PM
>: Subject: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>:
>:
>:: Yes,
>::
>::
>::
>:: I wood like to buy a mp3 player. What should I buy?
>::
>:: The best bang for the buck, and easy to use
>::
>::
>::
>:: thanks.
>::
>::
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Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today

2006-09-06 Thread Jack Conti
Nick I have a couple of questions.

1. how expensive is the iaudio x5 and,
2.   how much deos it hold.

3. how do you know what tune you are looking for in other words how 
do you know where you are in the menuis?
thanks in advance.
At 09:27 PM 9/5/2006, you wrote:
>I, personally, would by the IAUdio X5 from www.cowonamerica.com.  It has a
>hard drive, is made out of nice metal, and cah use rock box, which makes the
>mp3 player talk.  It, even out of the box, can play ogg Vorbis, which is
>something I look for always.
>- Original Message -
>From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:57 PM
>Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>
>
> > What features do you want it to have?  Ultimately, I think one of the best
> > is Book Port, but then you may not be looking for a multi purpose device
> > such as Book Port.  The great thing about it is that it is totally
> > accessible, and since it uses flash memory cards up to 4 gigabytes you can
> > have a lot of music with you, and have more than one card so it is easier
> > to have a large library of music, books, etc. and play them all on one
> > unit.
> >
> > At half the price of the Book Port is the Olympus WS320M digital recorder
> > and MP3 player.  It plays both MP3 and WMA, records only in WMA.  It is
> > very small, runs on 1 tripple A battery, and can store 1 gigabyte of
> > files.  It has a USB interface that makes copying files to it a very easy
> > thing to do.
> >
> > There are lots of others that one could consider, and I'll just say these
> > two happen to be my personal favorites because I own and use both of them
> > regularly.
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Tate Luck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
> > Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 3:36 PM
> > Subject: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
> >
> >
> > : Yes,
> > :
> > :
> > :
> > : I wood like to buy a mp3 player. What should I buy?
> > :
> > : The best bang for the buck, and easy to use
> > :
> > :
> > :
> > : thanks.
> > :
> > :
> > : --
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> > : Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> > : Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/436 - Release Date: 9/1/2006
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Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today

2006-09-06 Thread Jack Conti
David, my question is for book port if you have a lot of music on there,
how do you know wich tune you are going to play in other words how 
does one read through the list?
Thanks in advance.
At 08:57 PM 9/5/2006, you wrote:
>What features do you want it to have?  Ultimately, I think one of 
>the best is Book Port, but then you may not be looking for a multi 
>purpose device such as Book Port.  The great thing about it is that 
>it is totally accessible, and since it uses flash memory cards up to 
>4 gigabytes you can have a lot of music with you, and have more than 
>one card so it is easier to have a large library of music, books, 
>etc. and play them all on one unit.
>
>At half the price of the Book Port is the Olympus WS320M digital 
>recorder and MP3 player.  It plays both MP3 and WMA, records only in 
>WMA.  It is very small, runs on 1 tripple A battery, and can store 1 
>gigabyte of files.  It has a USB interface that makes copying files 
>to it a very easy thing to do.
>
>There are lots of others that one could consider, and I'll just say 
>these two happen to be my personal favorites because I own and use 
>both of them regularly.
>
>
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>: Yes,
>:
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>:
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>:
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Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today

2006-09-06 Thread Chris Skarstad
this sounds fantastic and all around
  supurb. Now, if one of you nice people has $299 or $349 to buy one, 
you got more money than me.
I just don't have the necessary cash at the moment, and by the time I 
do, a better model will probably be out.



At 08:27 PM 9/5/2006, you wrote:
>I, personally, would by the IAUdio X5 from www.cowonamerica.com.  It has a
>hard drive, is made out of nice metal, and cah use rock box, which makes the
>mp3 player talk.  It, even out of the box, can play ogg Vorbis, which is
>something I look for always.
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>Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:57 PM
>Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>
>
> > What features do you want it to have?  Ultimately, I think one of the best
> > is Book Port, but then you may not be looking for a multi purpose device
> > such as Book Port.  The great thing about it is that it is totally
> > accessible, and since it uses flash memory cards up to 4 gigabytes you can
> > have a lot of music with you, and have more than one card so it is easier
> > to have a large library of music, books, etc. and play them all on one
> > unit.
> >
> > At half the price of the Book Port is the Olympus WS320M digital recorder
> > and MP3 player.  It plays both MP3 and WMA, records only in WMA.  It is
> > very small, runs on 1 tripple A battery, and can store 1 gigabyte of
> > files.  It has a USB interface that makes copying files to it a very easy
> > thing to do.
> >
> > There are lots of others that one could consider, and I'll just say these
> > two happen to be my personal favorites because I own and use both of them
> > regularly.
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Tate Luck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
> > Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 3:36 PM
> > Subject: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
> >
> >
> > : Yes,
> > :
> > :
> > :
> > : I wood like to buy a mp3 player. What should I buy?
> > :
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RE: If you had to buy a mp3 player today

2006-09-06 Thread André van Deventer
Hi all

Have just been wondering.  If vorbis  is such a popular format and so much
better, why is it not more widely used than mp3 in e.g. music services?  Is
there a lossless format for ogg vorbis?

Andre
 

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Sent: 06 September 2006 03:52 AM
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Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today

Ogg Vorbis is a format that has twice the sound quality of mp3 at equivalent
bitrates.
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Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:39 PM
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> Hi,
>
> What is ogg Vorbis?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Nick G
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:27 PM
> To: PC audio discussion list.
> Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>
> I, personally, would by the IAUdio X5 from www.cowonamerica.com.  It 
> has a hard drive, is made out of nice metal, and cah use rock box, 
> which makes the
>
> mp3 player talk.  It, even out of the box, can play ogg Vorbis, which 
> is something I look for always.
> - Original Message -
> From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:57 PM
> Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>
>
>> What features do you want it to have?  Ultimately, I think one of the 
>> best
>
>> is Book Port, but then you may not be looking for a multi purpose 
>> device such as Book Port.  The great thing about it is that it is 
>> totally accessible, and since it uses flash memory cards up to 4 
>> gigabytes you can
>
>> have a lot of music with you, and have more than one card so it is 
>> easier to have a large library of music, books, etc. and play them 
>> all on one unit.
>>
>> At half the price of the Book Port is the Olympus WS320M digital 
>> recorder and MP3 player.  It plays both MP3 and WMA, records only in 
>> WMA.  It is very small, runs on 1 tripple A battery, and can store 1 
>> gigabyte of files.  It has a USB interface that makes copying files 
>> to it a very easy thing to do.
>>
>> There are lots of others that one could consider, and I'll just say 
>> these two happen to be my personal favorites because I own and use 
>> both of them regularly.
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Tate Luck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
>> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 3:36 PM
>> Subject: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
>>
>>
>> : Yes,
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> : I wood like to buy a mp3 player. What should I buy?
>> :
>> : The best bang for the buck, and easy to use
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> : thanks.
>> :
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Re: us open

2006-09-06 Thread Anders Holmberg
HellO!
TIm!
I really want your help with the us open link.
Thanks in advance.
/anders.
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> Sometimes I see it and sometimes it doesn't show up, but someone just 
> listed
> a direct link to the url which gets you to the tv page where you find 
> radio
> and then listen.  If you missed it I can send it.  It really is a nice
> sounding audio feed.
>
>
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> Hello!
> I found something but i never went in there.
> So i really dont know how it works?
> /Anders.
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>> Well, I don't see it at www.usopen.org but maybe you can find it.
>>
>>
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