RE: Sirius XM Prepares for Possible Bankruptcy
Interesting clip but it's not as if the satellites will be falling from orbit just yet. Echostar will eventually absorb them. If they are a monopoly, they will try and raise rates, but it's not like there aren't any alternatives are there? Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:22 PM To: djbigred2...@hotmail.com; pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: Sirius XM Prepares for Possible Bankruptcy The New York Times February 11, 2009 Wednesday Late Edition - Final Section B; Column 0; Business/Financial Desk; Pg. 1 780 words Satellite Radio Company Sirius XM Prepares for Possible Bankruptcy By ANDREW ROSS SORKIN and ZACHERY KOUWE Last summer, Mel Karmazin was rattling off his trademark one-liners to talk up the future of SiriusXM Radio, the combined company he ran that had just been blessed by regulators. He was planning to cut costs and expand a business that was already a fixture in the lives of millions of Americans. ''Forty-three cents a day -- it's not even vending machine coffee,'' he said at the time, parrying a question about whether the softening economy might hurt subscriptions. But now Sirius XM, the satellite radio company, has problems with much bigger price tags. It has hired advisers to prepare for a possible bankruptcy filing, people involved in the process said. That would, of course, be a grim turn of events for the normally upbeat Mr. Karmazin, Sirius XM's chief executive, who had hoped to create a mobile entertainment juggernaut with stars like Howard Stern. It is unclear how a bankruptcy would affect customers. Service is unlikely to be interrupted, but the company might have to terminate contracts with high-priced talent like Mr. Stern or Martha Stewart. A bankruptcy would make Sirius XM one of the largest casualties of the credit squeeze. With over $5 billion in assets, it would be the second-largest Chapter 11 filing so far this year, according to Capital IQ. The filing by Smurfit-Stone, with assets of $7 billion, has been the year's biggest to date. Sirius XM, which never turned a profit when both companies were independent, is laden with $3.25 billion in debt. Its business model has been dependent, in part, on the ability to roll over its enormous debts -- used to finance sending satellites into space and attract talent like Mr. Stern (who was paid $100 million a year) -- at low rates for the foreseeable future until it could turn a profit. The company's success and failure are also tied to the faltering fortunes of the automobile industry, which sells vehicles with its radio technology installed and represented the largest customer base among Sirius XM's 20 million subscribers. Sirius XM owes about $175 million in debt payments at the end of February that it is unlikely to be able to pay. Sirius XM's problems could pave the way for a takeover by EchoStar, the TV satellite company, which has bought up Sirius XM's debt. Mr. Karmazin has been locked in talks with EchoStar's chief executive, Charles W. Ergen, over Sirius XM's options, people involved in the talks said. The men are said not to get along, these people said, and Mr. Karmazin had rebuffed Mr. Ergen's takeover advances before. Sirius XM hired Joseph A. Bondi of Alvarez Marsal and Mark J. Thompson, a bankruptcy lawyer with Simpson, Thacher Bartlett, to help prepare a Chapter 11 filing, these people said. Documents and analysis are close to completion and a filing could come in days, according to a person familiar with the matter. The threat of bankruptcy could also be part of a negotiating dance with Mr. Ergen, who could decide to convert his debt into equity instead of demanding payment. In addition to the $175 million due in February, EchoStar also owns $400 million of Sirius XM's debt due in December. If Sirius XM files for bankruptcy, EchoStar could seek in court to take over the company. Mr. Ergen, however, may be able to negotiate to convert his shares before bankruptcy at an attractive rate and gain control of the company, these people said. For Mr. Karmazin, the sale or bankruptcy of Sirius XM would be one of his first failures. He founded Infinity Broadcasting, sold it to CBS and later merged the combined companies into Viacom, where he had a notoriously difficult relationship with Sumner M. Redstone, the chairman, before being ousted. Mr. Karmazin bought two million shares of Sirius XM at $1.37 a share in August. Before that, he had bought 20 million shares at an average price of $5 each. On Tuesday, Sirius closed at 11.4 cents a share. Since the summer, the company's prospects have dimmed. ''I'm not trying to paint the rosy picture, because we have challenges connected to our liquidity and certainly our stock price is dreadful,'' Mr. Karmazin said in December. ''But, you know, our revenues are growing
Re: Sirius XM Prepares for Possible Bankruptcy
i would say send the articles as well, cause yu never know when the site might be down - Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 11:40 PM Subject: Re: Sirius XM Prepares for Possible Bankruptcy Norma, With genuine respect for your best intentions and all your contributions to this list, I object to the posting of a copyrighted article. Note also that it is from a newspaper that, like the subject of the article, is facing grave financial problems. A link would have been sufficient to take us to the website. Separately, as the article hints, you may well see a takeover by EchoStar. Sirius XM has too much long-term value. I don't think list members should panic. Not yet, anyway. - Original Message - From: Norma A. Boge nab...@mchsi.com To: djbigred2...@hotmail.com; pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:22 PM Subject: Sirius XM Prepares for Possible Bankruptcy The New York Times February 11, 2009 Wednesday Late Edition - Final Section B; Column 0; Business/Financial Desk; Pg. 1 780 words Satellite Radio Company Sirius XM Prepares for Possible Bankruptcy By ANDREW ROSS SORKIN and ZACHERY KOUWE Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
help please
Dear Friends I am looking for a good pda to fit into my bag when I am going away from home I hope some one can help me. all the best from sean waiting. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Sirius XM Prepares for Possible Bankruptcy
Your rudeness is exceeded only by your ignorance of the law. I'm certain that the list owner, Tom, does not condone the kind of copyright infringement you endorse. The copyright law contains a fair use provision that authorizes consumers to make copies for their own purposes, which can include sending to one or two friends. I'm confident the majority of subscribers to this list work within those parameters. - Original Message - From: Archie's Pal archies...@hotmail.com To: 'Adrian Spratt' adr...@adrianspratt.com Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 9:35 AM Subject: RE: Sirius XM Prepares for Possible Bankruptcy You're being more than a bit hypocritical to take Norma to task for sending a copyrighted article when the whole purpose of the list is to violate copyright. Since ripping music or audio books is a violation of the law; and the changes a few years ago do not alter this fundamental fact; posting of that article (especially since the copyright information was also clearly provided) hardly rates a second thought for me. If you're so sensitive about copyright, then kindly leave the list and take your high moral values with you. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 12:40 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Sirius XM Prepares for Possible Bankruptcy Norma, With genuine respect for your best intentions and all your contributions to this list, I object to the posting of a copyrighted article. Note also that it is from a newspaper that, like the subject of the article, is facing grave financial problems. A link would have been sufficient to take us to the website. Separately, as the article hints, you may well see a takeover by EchoStar. Sirius XM has too much long-term value. I don't think list members should panic. Not yet, anyway. - Original Message - From: Norma A. Boge nab...@mchsi.com To: djbigred2...@hotmail.com; pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:22 PM Subject: Sirius XM Prepares for Possible Bankruptcy The New York Times February 11, 2009 Wednesday Late Edition - Final Section B; Column 0; Business/Financial Desk; Pg. 1 780 words Satellite Radio Company Sirius XM Prepares for Possible Bankruptcy By ANDREW ROSS SORKIN and ZACHERY KOUWE Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Sirius XM Prepares for Possible Bankruptcy
??? Please remain calm. As long as she cites her references nobody, including the NYTimes cares a sausage. That's a vegetarian sausage loaded with tofu so as not to offend anyone who worries about such things. Heehee! Stay calm... Peter -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 10:18 AM To: Archie's Pal Cc: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Sirius XM Prepares for Possible Bankruptcy Your rudeness is exceeded only by your ignorance of the law. I'm certain that the list owner, Tom, does not condone the kind of copyright infringement you endorse. The copyright law contains a fair use provision that authorizes consumers to make copies for their own purposes, which can include sending to one or two friends. I'm confident the majority of subscribers to this list work within those parameters. - Original Message - From: Archie's Pal archies...@hotmail.com To: 'Adrian Spratt' adr...@adrianspratt.com Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 9:35 AM Subject: RE: Sirius XM Prepares for Possible Bankruptcy You're being more than a bit hypocritical to take Norma to task for sending a copyrighted article when the whole purpose of the list is to violate copyright. Since ripping music or audio books is a violation of the law; and the changes a few years ago do not alter this fundamental fact; posting of that article (especially since the copyright information was also clearly provided) hardly rates a second thought for me. If you're so sensitive about copyright, then kindly leave the list and take your high moral values with you. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 12:40 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Sirius XM Prepares for Possible Bankruptcy Norma, With genuine respect for your best intentions and all your contributions to this list, I object to the posting of a copyrighted article. Note also that it is from a newspaper that, like the subject of the article, is facing grave financial problems. A link would have been sufficient to take us to the website. Separately, as the article hints, you may well see a takeover by EchoStar. Sirius XM has too much long-term value. I don't think list members should panic. Not yet, anyway. - Original Message - From: Norma A. Boge nab...@mchsi.com To: djbigred2...@hotmail.com; pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:22 PM Subject: Sirius XM Prepares for Possible Bankruptcy The New York Times February 11, 2009 Wednesday Late Edition - Final Section B; Column 0; Business/Financial Desk; Pg. 1 780 words Satellite Radio Company Sirius XM Prepares for Possible Bankruptcy By ANDREW ROSS SORKIN and ZACHERY KOUWE Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: help please
Hello Sean, Please give us a bit more detail as to what features you need in such a device. - Original Message - From: sean waiting s...@waiting6415.freeserve.co.uk To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 7:47 AM Subject: help please Dear Friends I am looking for a good pda to fit into my bag when I am going away from home I hope some one can help me. all the best from sean waiting. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Sirius XM Prepares for Possible Bankruptcy
hi, whether tom does or doesn't condone such posts is entirely upto him! not other list members. if you have a gripe, take it off list, either to the original poster, or to tom himself. thank you. kevin email/messenger: kr...@eklyon.co.uk - Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com To: Archie's Pal archies...@hotmail.com Cc: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 3:18 PM Subject: Re: Sirius XM Prepares for Possible Bankruptcy Your rudeness is exceeded only by your ignorance of the law. I'm certain that the list owner, Tom, does not condone the kind of copyright infringement you endorse. The copyright law contains a fair use provision that authorizes consumers to make copies for their own purposes, which can include sending to one or two friends. I'm confident the majority of subscribers to this list work within those parameters. - Original Message - From: Archie's Pal archies...@hotmail.com To: 'Adrian Spratt' adr...@adrianspratt.com Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 9:35 AM Subject: RE: Sirius XM Prepares for Possible Bankruptcy You're being more than a bit hypocritical to take Norma to task for sending a copyrighted article when the whole purpose of the list is to violate copyright. Since ripping music or audio books is a violation of the law; and the changes a few years ago do not alter this fundamental fact; posting of that article (especially since the copyright information was also clearly provided) hardly rates a second thought for me. If you're so sensitive about copyright, then kindly leave the list and take your high moral values with you. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 12:40 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Sirius XM Prepares for Possible Bankruptcy Norma, With genuine respect for your best intentions and all your contributions to this list, I object to the posting of a copyrighted article. Note also that it is from a newspaper that, like the subject of the article, is facing grave financial problems. A link would have been sufficient to take us to the website. Separately, as the article hints, you may well see a takeover by EchoStar. Sirius XM has too much long-term value. I don't think list members should panic. Not yet, anyway. - Original Message - From: Norma A. Boge nab...@mchsi.com To: djbigred2...@hotmail.com; pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:22 PM Subject: Sirius XM Prepares for Possible Bankruptcy The New York Times February 11, 2009 Wednesday Late Edition - Final Section B; Column 0; Business/Financial Desk; Pg. 1 780 words Satellite Radio Company Sirius XM Prepares for Possible Bankruptcy By ANDREW ROSS SORKIN and ZACHERY KOUWE Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
.WMA Files and the Mac
Does the Mac have the facilities to play .wma files? Bruce -- Bruce Toews dogri...@ogts.net Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Sirius XM Prepares for Possible Bankruptcy
I do not condone posting copyrighted material to an e-mail list but what's done has been done. Let's just remember not to do it in the future. Thank you, Tom Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Seeking information on USB turntables
Actually, I would really appreciate the same information, though I may try to use what we have on hand. We got a so-called modern turntable and it has one of those silly ceramic cartridges. Maybe this doesn't make a difference if you have the right program. So information also appreciated. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Walt Smith Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 1:05 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: Seeking information on USB turntables I'm currently considering the purchase of a USB turntable to aid in converting my extensive and, in some cases, rare vinyl collection to digital and would appreciate any information, suggestions, guidance, etc., from list members regarding the subject. Suggestions of hardware and software to consider or avoid, tips on conversion, and any other input will be very sincerely appreciated. If you've had any experience with a USB turntable, I definitely would like to hear from you. You can reply on the list or, if you prefer, mail me directly at the e-mail address below. Thanks in advance. -- Walt Smith - Clearwater, FL ka3...@tampabay.rr.com Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: .WMA Files and the Mac
Hi Bruce, my son has a Mac, and I'll try to find out that information. Arthur Barney - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 9:21 AM Subject: .WMA Files and the Mac Does the Mac have the facilities to play .wma files? Bruce -- Bruce Toews dogri...@ogts.net Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3848 (20090212) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: help please
Humanware has the voice and braille note and I think GWMicro has the braille sense which is smaller. ** If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why? then where does the learning start? robert Doc Wright http://www.wrightplaceinc.net msn godfeare...@hotmail.com - Original Message - From: sean waiting To: PC Audio Discussion List Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 7:47 AM Subject: help please Dear Friends I am looking for a good pda to fit into my bag when I am going away from home I hope some one can help me. all the best from sean waiting. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3849 (20090212) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: help please
Discussing PDAs is off topic for the pc audio list. Please remember, this list is specifically for talking about audio on a computer and audio related products. Thank you, Tom Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
New to the List
Hello all I've just joined as I'm interested in audio for the PC. -- Chris Hallsworth e-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Pal Talk
Does anyone have Pal Talk/ If so can someone give me a ditorail on how to use it. I can click on a list of rooms. However, when it says something like Talk Shows open, I can't see the rooms in that treview. I also can't hit enter to see what there is. I will talk to you later. You say, Son, let's forget the past, I want another chance, gonna make it last. You're begging me for a brand new start, trying to mend a bridge that's been blown apart, but you know... you never built it dad. (Queensryche Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Pal Talk
I haven't used paltalk for a number of years;; I've been told that it is ripe with spyware and other malware programs so really haven't had the interest. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Wassmer Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 6:18 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Pal Talk Does anyone have Pal Talk/ If so can someone give me a ditorail on how to use it. I can click on a list of rooms. However, when it says something like Talk Shows open, I can't see the rooms in that treview. I also can't hit enter to see what there is. I will talk to you later. You say, Son, let's forget the past, I want another chance, gonna make it last. You're begging me for a brand new start, trying to mend a bridge that's been blown apart, but you know... you never built it dad. (Queensryche Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: help please
tom, got a question what about such devices like the pack mate and voice and braille sense these are like PDA's and they deal with audio and the like can these be discussed here? just wondering. - Original Message - From: Tom t...@pc-audio.org To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 2:14 PM Subject: Re: help please Discussing PDAs is off topic for the pc audio list. Please remember, this list is specifically for talking about audio on a computer and audio related products. Thank you, Tom Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
