Re: plugins for gold wave
They wouldn't. What I'm saying is that, for someone who hasn't already purchased Gold Wave and wishes to, they should do so now because the cost will go up for version 5.5. However, the GWVoice plugin will be integrated into Gold Wave. Bruce On Mon, 30 Mar 2009, Sunshine wrote: why would a person have to pay for the upgrade if they already have a life time licenses? - Original Message - From: "Bruce Toews" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:04 PM Subject: Re: plugins for gold wave Which will be integrated into the next version. Buy now and save yourself the increase in price that will come with version 5.5. Bruce On Mon, 30 Mar 2009, Chris Hallsworth wrote: Try GWVoice from GoldWave themselves. -- Chris Hallsworth e-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 - Original Message - From: "Brett Boyer" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 6:35 PM Subject: plugins for gold wave Hey listers! Just wondering what some of you are using for effects in goldwave. I'm looking for more dx plugins to play with audio. Any suggestions of free or low cost plugins that have lots of effects or presets? thanks for your help bb To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.33/2031 - Release Date: 03/30/09 17:56:00 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: plugins for gold wave
why would a person have to pay for the upgrade if they already have a life time licenses? - Original Message - From: "Bruce Toews" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:04 PM Subject: Re: plugins for gold wave Which will be integrated into the next version. Buy now and save yourself the increase in price that will come with version 5.5. Bruce On Mon, 30 Mar 2009, Chris Hallsworth wrote: > Try GWVoice from GoldWave themselves. > > -- > Chris Hallsworth > e-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com > MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com > Skype: chrishallsworth7266 > - Original Message - > From: "Brett Boyer" > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 6:35 PM > Subject: plugins for gold wave > > > Hey listers! Just wondering what some of you are using for effects in > goldwave. I'm looking for more dx plugins to play with audio. Any > suggestions of free or low cost plugins that have lots of effects or > presets? > thanks for your help > bb > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.33/2031 - Release Date: 03/30/09 17:56:00 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Is there an accessible MP3 player that works with Rhapsody?
I'm not sure what format the playlist of files from the textbook are in. Not sure how to get at that info since I can't actually download the files. Thanks. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Vic Beckley Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 9:09 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Is there an accessible MP3 player that works with Rhapsody? I use Rhapsody WMA files all the time with Winamp and WMP. As long as you keep your licenses up to date by running the Rhapsody software every so often, they play just fine with any media player that is aware of Windows media DRM. Vic -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 10:02 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Is there an accessible MP3 player that works with Rhapsody? From the review at http://mp3.about.com/od/digitalmusicdelivery/fr/Rhapsodyreview.htm, it says: File Formats: Rhapsody has its own DRM system just like the iTunes Store does to protect its music files. The DRM system that is used is known as Helix. The file format that is used with this encryption technology is RAX (AAC encapsulated in Helix). You can alternatively download WMA files if you prefer; these are protected with Microsoft's WMDRM system. I don't use Rhapsody myself, but the implication that you could only get Real audio files from Rhapsody didn't sound right to me, so a quick trip to Google gave me the above information. Gary G Schindler wrote: > I think Rhapsody is basically for real audio files! > > - Original Message - From: "Robert doc Wright" > > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 4:21 PM > Subject: Re: Is there an accessible MP3 player that works with Rhapsody? > > >> I had a problem getting jaws to interact with rhapsody. >> >> ** >> Let a smile be your lantern of joy >> >> >> robert Doc Wright >> http://www.wrightplaceinc.net >> msn >> godfeare...@hotmail.com >> >> >> - Original Message - From: Jamie Pauls >> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org >> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 12:54 PM >> Subject: Is there an accessible MP3 player that works with Rhapsody? >> >> >> Greetings list: >> >> I teach a music appreciation class at a local community college. In >> the fall of this year, I am switching to a new textbook, The Musical >> Experience by John Chiego. Every instructor of the class receives a >> year of Rhapsody to Go which allows one to transfer songs from >> Rhapsody to a supported MP3 player. >> Each chapter of the text has an accompanying playlist. I am familiar >> with using Rhapsody and have no trouble there. I have also been >> playing with Applian Technology's Replay Media Catcher program to >> grab the playlists and convert them to MP3 files. Applian says this >> is legal, but I have to wonder if Rhapsody would be thrilled. I will >> use Media Catcher if I have no other option, but an MP3 player with >> attached speakers would be preferable to CDs and a boom box anyway. >> Does anyone have any experience with any of the MP3 players supported >> by Rhapsody? Any help would be appreciated. >> >> Jamie Pauls, MT-BC >> E-mail: jamiepa...@sbcglobal.net >> Web site: http://www.accesswatch.info >> Blog: http://accesswatch.blogspot.com >> RSS: http://feeds.feedburner.com/accesswatch >> Skype: jamie.pauls >> Windows Live Messenger: jamiepa...@hotmail.com >> >> >> __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature >> database 3972 (20090328) __ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org >> >> __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 3972 (20090328) __ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org >> > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > -- Christopher cchalt...@austin.rr.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ NOD32 3973 (20090329) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 a
RE: Affordable cell phone and talking software
Sorry, I didn't know it was off topic since it pertained to talking devices. I will follow your suggestion. Vic -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 12:44 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Affordable cell phone and talking software Did you mean to send this request to this list? Not only is it off topic, but you won't get as many good responses as you would by sending it to a list like the Accessible Phones Discussion List. You can get more information on that list, view the archives and subscribe by going to the URL http://mosenexplosion.com/mailman/listinfo/blindphones_mosenexplosion.com. When you post your question there, I'd suggest adding some information to your question, such as what you mean by " basic cell phone that will speak to me." I'm guessing you want to make and receive phone calls, want to know phone status (such as battery levels, connection strength and so on) and move through some of the phone's menus. what about text messaging, contact list and other PIM applications? Also, do you know what network you'll be on? You have a different set of choices if you're going with CDMA versus GSM, for example. Also, where you live will make a difference. Good luck! Vic Beckley wrote: > Hi all, > > > > I know I am going to get as many responses on this as there are people, but > I need help. I have not kept up with the progress in cell phone access. > All I need is a basic cell phone that will speak to me. What is the best > service provider to go with, the best cell phone to go with, and the best > speech package to go with? Do you buy all 3 from the same place or separate > places? Thanks in advance. > > > > Vic > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > > -- Christopher cchalt...@austin.rr.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ NOD32 3973 (20090329) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Affordable cell phone and talking software
Sorry. I'm not the moderator, so I'll obviously defer to the moderator, but at the pc-audio.org web site it says: PC-audio is a list for the discussion of any PC audio related topic such as PC audio software like sound editors, audio players and audio formats; and hardware like sound cards, CD and DVD devices and so on. While the subject matter is wide ranging, this is not a forum for the discussion of non-pc-audio matters. There are many other lists for political or other discussions. My interpretation is that this does not extend to any talking or audio playing device but rather PC based software and hardware. As stated above, there are lists for accessible cell phones, accessible electronics and so on. If my interpretation is to narrow then I stand corrected! Vic Beckley wrote: Sorry, I didn't know it was off topic since it pertained to talking devices. I will follow your suggestion. Vic -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 12:44 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Affordable cell phone and talking software Did you mean to send this request to this list? Not only is it off topic, but you won't get as many good responses as you would by sending it to a list like the Accessible Phones Discussion List. You can get more information on that list, view the archives and subscribe by going to the URL http://mosenexplosion.com/mailman/listinfo/blindphones_mosenexplosion.com. When you post your question there, I'd suggest adding some information to your question, such as what you mean by " basic cell phone that will speak to me." I'm guessing you want to make and receive phone calls, want to know phone status (such as battery levels, connection strength and so on) and move through some of the phone's menus. what about text messaging, contact list and other PIM applications? Also, do you know what network you'll be on? You have a different set of choices if you're going with CDMA versus GSM, for example. Also, where you live will make a difference. Good luck! Vic Beckley wrote: Hi all, I know I am going to get as many responses on this as there are people, but I need help. I have not kept up with the progress in cell phone access. All I need is a basic cell phone that will speak to me. What is the best service provider to go with, the best cell phone to go with, and the best speech package to go with? Do you buy all 3 from the same place or separate places? Thanks in advance. Vic To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- Christopher cchalt...@austin.rr.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Is there an accessible MP3 player that works with Rhapsody?
I use Rhapsody WMA files all the time with Winamp and WMP. As long as you keep your licenses up to date by running the Rhapsody software every so often, they play just fine with any media player that is aware of Windows media DRM. Vic -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 10:02 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Is there an accessible MP3 player that works with Rhapsody? From the review at http://mp3.about.com/od/digitalmusicdelivery/fr/Rhapsodyreview.htm, it says: File Formats: Rhapsody has its own DRM system just like the iTunes Store does to protect its music files. The DRM system that is used is known as Helix. The file format that is used with this encryption technology is RAX (AAC encapsulated in Helix). You can alternatively download WMA files if you prefer; these are protected with Microsoft's WMDRM system. I don't use Rhapsody myself, but the implication that you could only get Real audio files from Rhapsody didn't sound right to me, so a quick trip to Google gave me the above information. Gary G Schindler wrote: > I think Rhapsody is basically for real audio files! > > - Original Message - From: "Robert doc Wright" > > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 4:21 PM > Subject: Re: Is there an accessible MP3 player that works with Rhapsody? > > >> I had a problem getting jaws to interact with rhapsody. >> >> ** >> Let a smile be your lantern of joy >> >> >> robert Doc Wright >> http://www.wrightplaceinc.net >> msn >> godfeare...@hotmail.com >> >> >> - Original Message - From: Jamie Pauls >> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org >> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 12:54 PM >> Subject: Is there an accessible MP3 player that works with Rhapsody? >> >> >> Greetings list: >> >> I teach a music appreciation class at a local community college. In >> the fall >> of this year, I am switching to a new textbook, The Musical >> Experience by >> John Chiego. Every instructor of the class receives a year of >> Rhapsody to Go >> which allows one to transfer songs from Rhapsody to a supported MP3 >> player. >> Each chapter of the text has an accompanying playlist. I am familiar >> with >> using Rhapsody and have no trouble there. I have also been playing with >> Applian Technology's Replay Media Catcher program to grab the >> playlists and >> convert them to MP3 files. Applian says this is legal, but I have to >> wonder >> if Rhapsody would be thrilled. I will use Media Catcher if I have no >> other >> option, but an MP3 player with attached speakers would be preferable >> to CDs >> and a boom box anyway. Does anyone have any experience with any of >> the MP3 >> players supported by Rhapsody? Any help would be appreciated. >> >> Jamie Pauls, MT-BC >> E-mail: jamiepa...@sbcglobal.net >> Web site: http://www.accesswatch.info >> Blog: http://accesswatch.blogspot.com >> RSS: http://feeds.feedburner.com/accesswatch >> Skype: jamie.pauls >> Windows Live Messenger: jamiepa...@hotmail.com >> >> >> __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature >> database 3972 (20090328) __ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org >> >> __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 3972 (20090328) __ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org >> > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > -- Christopher cchalt...@austin.rr.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ NOD32 3973 (20090329) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: converting other file types
I use Switch Audio File Conversion Software from http://www.nch.com.au/switch/index.html. You can download the trial ware for free. When the trial period runs out, you can still convert WMA to MP3 using the free version of Switch. Since you're converting from one lossless format to another, will result in a loss of sound quality. It isn't clear whether this would be noticeable or not though. That would depend in part on the type of audio and the bit rates and sampling rates used in the source and target files. Les Gordon wrote: the website for digital media pro version 2.3 is www.deskshare.com you can download the demo there and then purchase if you like it. thanks les - Original Message - From: "Donald" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: RE: converting other file types Where do you get it and what is the cost? In the conversion process do you lose any of the quality? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Les Gordon Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:18 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: converting other file types hi, i use digital media pro 2.3 that can convert most of those file types include dvd and others. - Original Message - From: "Donald" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:54 AM Subject: converting other file types On a similar subject about file conversion, is there a program that will convert wma to mp3? How much quality is lost in the process? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 8:52 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats Thanks all for the information. I personally didn't interpret "do not decompile, disassemble, or reverse engineer the Audible Content" as prohibiting me from converting the media format. Maybe if it had said electronic content instead of "audible content" I might have interpreted it differently. After all, you are allowed to download it, stream it and write it to CD for your own personal use. Granted, I might have read this with a pair of rose colored glasses on. I guess my main point was two fold. First, I saw quite a few sites which claimed that their product was a legal way to convert Audible files into other formats and other sites which talked about what was and wasn't legal given Audible's terms and conditions, the DMAC, fair use and court cases, which lead me to believe that it isn't clear what is and isn't legal in this case. Second, as others have stated on this list, I doubt any company or law enforcement agency would prosecute anyone who was making copies for their own personal use and was scrupulous about making sure those copies didn't end up in anyone else's hands. Note that I also feel it's clear that sharing these files, even with a few friends, is illegal, although maybe not unethical. Richard Claypool wrote: Hi, there is fair use, but the digital molenium copyright act prohibits breaking encryption on files. This has been one of the complaints of people for ages that they can't make a personal backup of say a dvd for thier own use because it violates the DMCA. Rick twitter http://twitter.com/elheme msn bellevue@gmail.com skype lord_of_beer - Original Message - From: "Adrian Spratt" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:46 AM Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats Bruce, This is an intelligent but very literal reading. I don't know about Canada, but in the US, copyright law has a fair use exception. There is really nothing to stop an individual from making copies or otherwise using products they own for their own purposes. I assume the manufacturer's purpose behind the provision you quote is to discourage dissemination of these materials. But if individuals don't have that intention, I doubt the manufacturer would have any reason to care. Correct me if I'm overlooking something. All that said, I share your concern that we all respect copyrighted materials and use them only for ourselves and maybe a friend or two. - Original Message - From: "Bruce Toews" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:53 AM Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats It says you shall not modify or disassemble the content. Bruce On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I'm not sure this is true. I may not be able to interpret all of the legal jargon, but I think Audible's terms and conditions plus "fair use" in the US would allow you to convert Audible books into another format for your own personal use. Audible's terms and conditions at http://www.audible.com/adbl/faqs/terms.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes say the following: 6. Grants of Licenses a. Audible Content Licens
Re: music sound editer
OK, thanks to both of you I will check into those sudjestions - Original Message - From: "Christopher Wright" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 6:55 PM Subject: Re: music sound editer If you choose to use Sonar, there's also a free set of Jaws scripts called JSonar. You can go to www.jsonar.org to read about it and download it. Since you'll be learning Sonar for the first time, I recommend the CakeTalking package from Dancing Dots. That comes with plenty of documentation. - Original Message - From: "Ray" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 6:19 PM Subject: Re: music sound editer Hello Kieth. Haven't time to give links, but there is quite a choice of sound editors that work with screen readers generally including JFW. Paid for stereo editors include: Sony: Sound Forge, Sound Studio Goldwave Studio Recorder from A P H. - this doesn't need scripts or anything as it is designed from the ground up to be accessible. Can be used for music, but is primarily meant for speech editing. Audacity, which is freeware or open source software. Believe there are JFW scripts for this one. It is a multi-track editor but can of course be used for stereo editing. In the multi-track field there is Sonar or Cakewalk which it developped from I believe. tthis is a combined audio and midi editor and very much aimed at musicians. Think the scripts here come from Dancing Dots. Finally, their is Adobe Audition, but how well this works with JFW I simply don't know. this was known as Cool Edit until Adobe acquired it, since when it has gone through a few inaccessible versions, but I hear things are beginning to be put right re. post version 3. So, hope all that helps and a bit of Googling will turn up the info you need. keith wrote: Hello to everyone my name is keith and I would like to know if there is a music sound editer that is screenreader friendly. I've just bought a Korg x50 keyboard that I want to do some sound editing on but the software that came with it is not screenreader friendly. I use Jaws for windows version 10, HELP!!! To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Ray To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: plugins for gold wave
Which will be integrated into the next version. Buy now and save yourself the increase in price that will come with version 5.5. Bruce On Mon, 30 Mar 2009, Chris Hallsworth wrote: Try GWVoice from GoldWave themselves. -- Chris Hallsworth e-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 - Original Message - From: "Brett Boyer" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 6:35 PM Subject: plugins for gold wave Hey listers! Just wondering what some of you are using for effects in goldwave. I'm looking for more dx plugins to play with audio. Any suggestions of free or low cost plugins that have lots of effects or presets? thanks for your help bb To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: music sound editer
If you choose to use Sonar, there's also a free set of Jaws scripts called JSonar. You can go to www.jsonar.org to read about it and download it. Since you'll be learning Sonar for the first time, I recommend the CakeTalking package from Dancing Dots. That comes with plenty of documentation. - Original Message - From: "Ray" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 6:19 PM Subject: Re: music sound editer > Hello Kieth. > > Haven't time to give links, but there is quite a choice of sound editors > that work with screen readers generally including JFW. > > Paid for stereo editors include: > Sony: > Sound Forge, Sound Studio > > Goldwave > > Studio Recorder from A P H. - this doesn't need scripts or anything as it > is designed from the ground up to be accessible. Can be used for music, but > is primarily meant for speech editing. > > Audacity, which is freeware or open source software. Believe there are JFW > scripts for this one. It is a multi-track editor but can of course be used > for stereo editing. > > In the multi-track field there is Sonar or Cakewalk which it developped from > I believe. tthis is a combined audio and midi editor and very much aimed at > musicians. Think the scripts here come from Dancing Dots. > > Finally, their is Adobe Audition, but how well this works with JFW I simply > don't know. this was known as Cool Edit until Adobe acquired it, since when > it has gone through a few inaccessible versions, but I hear things are > beginning to be put right re. post version 3. > > So, hope all that helps and a bit of Googling will turn up the info you need. > > keith wrote: > Hello to everyone my name is keith and I would like to know if there is a > music sound editer that is screenreader friendly. I've just bought a Korg > x50 keyboard that I want to do some sound editing on but the software that > came with it is not screenreader friendly. I use Jaws for windows version > 10, HELP!!! > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > > > > Ray > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: music sound editer
Hello Kieth. Haven't time to give links, but there is quite a choice of sound editors that work with screen readers generally including JFW. Paid for stereo editors include: Sony: Sound Forge, Sound Studio Goldwave Studio Recorder from A P H. - this doesn't need scripts or anything as it is designed from the ground up to be accessible. Can be used for music, but is primarily meant for speech editing. Audacity, which is freeware or open source software. Believe there are JFW scripts for this one. It is a multi-track editor but can of course be used for stereo editing. In the multi-track field there is Sonar or Cakewalk which it developped from I believe. tthis is a combined audio and midi editor and very much aimed at musicians. Think the scripts here come from Dancing Dots. Finally, their is Adobe Audition, but how well this works with JFW I simply don't know. this was known as Cool Edit until Adobe acquired it, since when it has gone through a few inaccessible versions, but I hear things are beginning to be put right re. post version 3. So, hope all that helps and a bit of Googling will turn up the info you need. keith wrote: Hello to everyone my name is keith and I would like to know if there is a music sound editer that is screenreader friendly. I've just bought a Korg x50 keyboard that I want to do some sound editing on but the software that came with it is not screenreader friendly. I use Jaws for windows version 10, HELP!!! To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Ray To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: plugins for gold wave
Try GWVoice from GoldWave themselves. -- Chris Hallsworth e-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 - Original Message - From: "Brett Boyer" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 6:35 PM Subject: plugins for gold wave Hey listers! Just wondering what some of you are using for effects in goldwave. I'm looking for more dx plugins to play with audio. Any suggestions of free or low cost plugins that have lots of effects or presets? thanks for your help bb To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Juice Receiver 2.2 with Vista OS
I had to set Juice to run in XP compatibility mode under Vista before it would work properly. I found the following instructions on how to do it on the internet: 1. Download, install, then browse to the installation folder (program files\juice) 2. Change the EXE compatibility mode to Windows XP SP2 [right-click the executable, flip to the Compatibility tab, place a checkmark in the 'Run this program in compatibility mode', then press the OK button] 3. Open Ipodder.cfg with Notepad and change the output directory from "My Documents" to "Documents" - which is found under C:\Users\username\appdata\Roaming\iPodder [by default] 4. Launch Juice Caroline. - Original Message - From: "dean martineau" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 5:59 AM Subject: RE: Juice Receiver 2.2 with Vista OS It did not work on my Vista system. Dean -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Petro T. Giannakopoulos Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 9:13 AM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: Juice Receiver 2.2 with Vista OS Does Juice Receiver 2.2 the podcatcher application work with Vista operating system? To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3973 (20090329) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3975 (20090330) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: music sound editer
Keith, This is not the right list for this; you want midi-mag, but, for the life of me, I cannot remember their E mail address or URL! Anyway, google it or I will try to find it and write you off list! Regards, Mac Norins - Original Message - From: "keith" To: "pc audio list" Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 12:21 PM Subject: music sound editer Hello to everyone my name is keith and I would like to know if there is a music sound editer that is screenreader friendly. I've just bought a Korg x50 keyboard that I want to do some sound editing on but the software that came with it is not screenreader friendly. I use Jaws for windows version 10, HELP!!! To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.12070 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.12070 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
selecting with audacity
I need to snag 3 minutes from an audio file but I haven't worked out an easy way to get to the part of the file I need to start from or selecting the audio I need. How is this done with the latest version of audacity? Ray T. Mahorney WA4WGA To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
music sound editer
Hello to everyone my name is keith and I would like to know if there is a music sound editer that is screenreader friendly. I've just bought a Korg x50 keyboard that I want to do some sound editing on but the software that came with it is not screenreader friendly. I use Jaws for windows version 10, HELP!!! To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
plugins for gold wave
Hey listers! Just wondering what some of you are using for effects in goldwave. I'm looking for more dx plugins to play with audio. Any suggestions of free or low cost plugins that have lots of effects or presets? thanks for your help bb To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Replay Converter 3.32 audio alerts settings & response from developer to me
Petro saids Wait for the new Replay AV 8 whenever it comes out and you will get the latest version of Replay Converter included and installed at the same time. The developer said You are very welcome. When I added the audio alerts I had you and the blind community in mind. There will actually be another update to Replay Converter coming soon. In the next version, I decided to add different audio alerts depending if a conversion was successful or not. The version that is out now just alerts when a conversion process finished no matter if it was successful or not. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Skype 4.0 and talking to two Skype users at the same time
How do I talk to two Skype users at the same time using Skype 4.0 with JAWS 10? I need to do an interview here. Thank you. Please help. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: IE8 and access issue re. streaming audio site
To whom it may concern: I could hear the Gutenberg audio books with the real player they offered. ButI had to unistalled it because it broke my Real Player version 10 and I can't hear the books... How can I get my Real v.10 again? Jose Ortega From Mexico...thank you... - Original Message - From: "Ray" To: Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 6:49 AM Subject: IE8 and access issue re. streaming audio site This may be primarily of interest to UK subscribers, but I think the service being discussed here can be accessed outside the UK. Posted originally on Blind Audio, I'm forwarding this to a few lists as, though not effecting me personally, I nonetheless feel Microsoft should be made to listen and act positively in this matter. (Direct email contact at end of message) Ray Forwarded message. Please do pass this around any lists you can, I need as much feedback as possible. Dear all, Many thanks to those of you who have contacted me recently regarding Internet Explorer 8, and the compatibility issues that Microsoft have with embedded real audio. I have two separate and long conversations with Microsoft IE8 technical support over the last couple of days, and they have confirmed that there is a serious compatibility issue. To cut a long story short, I believe that those of you who received the update for Internet Explorer 8 in the last few days (roll out began March 18) will only hear silence when accessing http://www.pressakey.net and any other page on the Audio Network. As yet, there are no plans for a patch to fix this problem. I'm asking for your help in confirming this issue, which I am going to take to Bill Gates if I have to. Please would you let me know if you can hear any audio on the following web page, and what browser you are using. It means a lot to be able to show Microsoft that is is a real issue with more than one person. Please try to listen to http://www.pressakey.net/ Just for yours and everybody else's information, I did a quick count up of the total page views and visitors for the Audio Network over the last 12 months. On average there are over 400 visits per day, and over the last 12 months visitors have opened up almost half a million pages - I know that is small compared to the "big guns" I am talking with, but I hope that those kind of numbers might just show them that people are finding the site useful, informative, fun, and a part of their lives on a regular basis! Please pass this on to as many people as you possibly can, asking them to do the same, and let me know the results by return of e-mail. Thank you for your help and support, Thanks! Bill Tiel. mailto:b...@pressakey.net To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Replay Converter & Replay Music products updates news
Latest update news for Replay Converter and Replay Music are below. When the new update for Replay AV 8 is released you will get the latest version of replay converter included so for now do nothing and continue to use what you have there. That's all I know. The developer added audio alerts to Replay Converter's settings. I do communicate with him from time to time. The below info is also on my blog at http://blindreplay.blogspot.com Replay Converter 3.32 Yesterday, March 29, 2009, 2:21:22 PM - Added new audio alert option in settings. Replay Music 3.56 Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 5:00:30 PM - Fixed a registration code problem where a false "expired code" error was appearing for some users. Replay Converter 3.31 Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 4:48:52 PM - Fixed a frame size bug where if two or more videos of different frame sizes were converted, the orignal frame size setting would not work properly. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: converting other file types
Talking of the website, anyone tried Text Speaker? It seems similar to TextAloud or DSpeech, but has more features, including adding background music to the document, as well as creating and editing documents, even in Microsoft Word format! -- Chris Hallsworth e-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 - Original Message - From: "Les Gordon" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 1:32 PM Subject: Re: converting other file types the website for digital media pro version 2.3 is www.deskshare.com you can download the demo there and then purchase if you like it. thanks les - Original Message - From: "Donald" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: RE: converting other file types > Where do you get it and what is the cost? In the conversion process do you > lose any of the quality? > > -Original Message- > From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] > On Behalf Of Les Gordon > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:18 AM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: converting other file types > > hi, i use digital media pro 2.3 that can convert most of those file types > include dvd and others. > > - Original Message - > From: "Donald" > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:54 AM > Subject: converting other file types > > >> On a similar subject about file conversion, is there a program that will >> convert wma to mp3? How much quality is lost in the process? >> >> -Original Message- >> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org >> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] >> On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain >> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 8:52 PM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats >> >> Thanks all for the information. I personally didn't interpret "do not >> decompile, disassemble, or reverse engineer the Audible Content" as >> prohibiting me from converting the media format. Maybe if it had said >> electronic content instead of "audible content" I might have interpreted >> it differently. After all, you are allowed to download it, stream it and >> write it to CD for your own personal use. Granted, I might have read >> this with a pair of rose colored glasses on. >> >> I guess my main point was two fold. First, I saw quite a few sites which >> claimed that their product was a legal way to convert Audible files into >> other formats and other sites which talked about what was and wasn't >> legal given Audible's terms and conditions, the DMAC, fair use and court >> cases, which lead me to believe that it isn't clear what is and isn't >> legal in this case. >> >> Second, as others have stated on this list, I doubt any company or law >> enforcement agency would prosecute anyone who was making copies for >> their own personal use and was scrupulous about making sure those copies >> didn't end up in anyone else's hands. Note that I also feel it's clear >> that sharing these files, even with a few friends, is illegal, although >> maybe not unethical. >> >> Richard Claypool wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> there is fair use, but the digital molenium copyright act prohibits >>> breaking encryption on files. This has been one of the complaints of >>> people for ages that they can't make a personal backup of say a dvd >>> for thier own use because it violates the DMCA. >>> Rick >>> twitter >>> http://twitter.com/elheme >>> >>> msn >>> bellevue@gmail.com >>> skype >>> lord_of_beer >>> - Original Message - From: "Adrian Spratt" >>> >>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:46 AM >>> Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats >>> >>> Bruce, This is an intelligent but very literal reading. I don't know about Canada, but in the US, copyright law has a fair use exception. There is really nothing to stop an individual from making copies or otherwise using products they own for their own purposes. I assume the manufacturer's purpose behind the provision you quote is to discourage dissemination of these materials. But if individuals don't have that intention, I doubt the manufacturer would have any reason to care. Correct me if I'm overlooking something. All that said, I share your concern that we all respect copyrighted materials and use them only for ourselves and maybe a friend or two. - Original Message - From: "Bruce Toews" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:53 AM Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats It says you shall not modify or disassemble the content. Bruce On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I'm not sure this is true. I may not be able to interpret all of the legal jargon, but I think Audible's terms and condit
Re: converting other file types
i will grab the site and email it to you. i think it costs $29.95 its very easy to use. thanks les. oh the quality for the most part stays the same. unless you really compress the files. - Original Message - From: "Donald" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: RE: converting other file types Where do you get it and what is the cost? In the conversion process do you lose any of the quality? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Les Gordon Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:18 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: converting other file types hi, i use digital media pro 2.3 that can convert most of those file types include dvd and others. - Original Message - From: "Donald" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:54 AM Subject: converting other file types On a similar subject about file conversion, is there a program that will convert wma to mp3? How much quality is lost in the process? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 8:52 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats Thanks all for the information. I personally didn't interpret "do not decompile, disassemble, or reverse engineer the Audible Content" as prohibiting me from converting the media format. Maybe if it had said electronic content instead of "audible content" I might have interpreted it differently. After all, you are allowed to download it, stream it and write it to CD for your own personal use. Granted, I might have read this with a pair of rose colored glasses on. I guess my main point was two fold. First, I saw quite a few sites which claimed that their product was a legal way to convert Audible files into other formats and other sites which talked about what was and wasn't legal given Audible's terms and conditions, the DMAC, fair use and court cases, which lead me to believe that it isn't clear what is and isn't legal in this case. Second, as others have stated on this list, I doubt any company or law enforcement agency would prosecute anyone who was making copies for their own personal use and was scrupulous about making sure those copies didn't end up in anyone else's hands. Note that I also feel it's clear that sharing these files, even with a few friends, is illegal, although maybe not unethical. Richard Claypool wrote: Hi, there is fair use, but the digital molenium copyright act prohibits breaking encryption on files. This has been one of the complaints of people for ages that they can't make a personal backup of say a dvd for thier own use because it violates the DMCA. Rick twitter http://twitter.com/elheme msn bellevue@gmail.com skype lord_of_beer - Original Message - From: "Adrian Spratt" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:46 AM Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats Bruce, This is an intelligent but very literal reading. I don't know about Canada, but in the US, copyright law has a fair use exception. There is really nothing to stop an individual from making copies or otherwise using products they own for their own purposes. I assume the manufacturer's purpose behind the provision you quote is to discourage dissemination of these materials. But if individuals don't have that intention, I doubt the manufacturer would have any reason to care. Correct me if I'm overlooking something. All that said, I share your concern that we all respect copyrighted materials and use them only for ourselves and maybe a friend or two. - Original Message - From: "Bruce Toews" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:53 AM Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats It says you shall not modify or disassemble the content. Bruce On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I'm not sure this is true. I may not be able to interpret all of the legal jargon, but I think Audible's terms and conditions plus "fair use" in the US would allow you to convert Audible books into another format for your own personal use. Audible's terms and conditions at http://www.audible.com/adbl/faqs/terms.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes say the following: 6. Grants of Licenses a. Audible Content License. When you "clickout" or otherwise "purchase" (referred to herein, collectively as "Purchase") Audible Content from the Audible Service, Audible grants you a limited, revocable, non-exclusive, non-transferable license to download or stream such Audible Content to your computer and/or your Device(s) solely for your personal non-commercial use. You shall not copy, reproduce, distribute or use the Audible Content in any other manner. You shall not sell, transfer, lease, modify, distribute or publicly perform the A
RE: converting other file types
Where do you get it and what is the cost? In the conversion process do you lose any of the quality? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Les Gordon Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:18 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: converting other file types hi, i use digital media pro 2.3 that can convert most of those file types include dvd and others. - Original Message - From: "Donald" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:54 AM Subject: converting other file types > On a similar subject about file conversion, is there a program that will > convert wma to mp3? How much quality is lost in the process? > > -Original Message- > From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] > On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 8:52 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats > > Thanks all for the information. I personally didn't interpret "do not > decompile, disassemble, or reverse engineer the Audible Content" as > prohibiting me from converting the media format. Maybe if it had said > electronic content instead of "audible content" I might have interpreted > it differently. After all, you are allowed to download it, stream it and > write it to CD for your own personal use. Granted, I might have read > this with a pair of rose colored glasses on. > > I guess my main point was two fold. First, I saw quite a few sites which > claimed that their product was a legal way to convert Audible files into > other formats and other sites which talked about what was and wasn't > legal given Audible's terms and conditions, the DMAC, fair use and court > cases, which lead me to believe that it isn't clear what is and isn't > legal in this case. > > Second, as others have stated on this list, I doubt any company or law > enforcement agency would prosecute anyone who was making copies for > their own personal use and was scrupulous about making sure those copies > didn't end up in anyone else's hands. Note that I also feel it's clear > that sharing these files, even with a few friends, is illegal, although > maybe not unethical. > > Richard Claypool wrote: >> Hi, >> >> there is fair use, but the digital molenium copyright act prohibits >> breaking encryption on files. This has been one of the complaints of >> people for ages that they can't make a personal backup of say a dvd >> for thier own use because it violates the DMCA. >> Rick >> twitter >> http://twitter.com/elheme >> >> msn >> bellevue@gmail.com >> skype >> lord_of_beer >> - Original Message - From: "Adrian Spratt" >> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:46 AM >> Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats >> >> >>> Bruce, >>> >>> This is an intelligent but very literal reading. I don't know about >>> Canada, but in the US, copyright law has a fair use exception. There >>> is really nothing to stop an individual from making copies or >>> otherwise using products they own for their own purposes. I assume >>> the manufacturer's purpose behind the provision you quote is to >>> discourage dissemination of these materials. But if individuals don't >>> have that intention, I doubt the manufacturer would have any reason >>> to care. Correct me if I'm overlooking something. All that said, I >>> share your concern that we all respect copyrighted materials and use >>> them only for ourselves and maybe a friend or two. >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Bruce Toews" >>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:53 AM >>> Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats >>> >>> It says you shall not modify or disassemble the content. >>> >>> Bruce >>> >>> On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Christopher Chaltain wrote: >>> >>> I'm not sure this is true. I may not be able to interpret all of the >>> legal jargon, but I think Audible's terms and conditions plus "fair >>> use" in the US would allow you to convert Audible books into another >>> format for your own personal use. >>> >>> Audible's terms and conditions at >>> http://www.audible.com/adbl/faqs/terms.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes say the >>> following: >>> >>> 6. Grants of Licenses >>> >>> a. Audible Content License. When you "clickout" or otherwise >>> "purchase" (referred to herein, collectively as "Purchase") Audible >>> Content from the Audible Service, Audible grants you a limited, >>> revocable, non-exclusive, non-transferable license to download or >>> stream such Audible Content to your computer and/or your Device(s) >>> solely for your personal non-commercial use. You shall not copy, >>> reproduce, distribute or use the Audible Content in any other manner. >>> You shall not sell, transfer, lease, modify, distribute or publicly >>> perform the Audible Content in any manner and you shall not exploit >>> it commercia
Re: converting other file types
hi, i use digital media pro 2.3 that can convert most of those file types include dvd and others. - Original Message - From: "Donald" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:54 AM Subject: converting other file types On a similar subject about file conversion, is there a program that will convert wma to mp3? How much quality is lost in the process? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 8:52 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats Thanks all for the information. I personally didn't interpret "do not decompile, disassemble, or reverse engineer the Audible Content" as prohibiting me from converting the media format. Maybe if it had said electronic content instead of "audible content" I might have interpreted it differently. After all, you are allowed to download it, stream it and write it to CD for your own personal use. Granted, I might have read this with a pair of rose colored glasses on. I guess my main point was two fold. First, I saw quite a few sites which claimed that their product was a legal way to convert Audible files into other formats and other sites which talked about what was and wasn't legal given Audible's terms and conditions, the DMAC, fair use and court cases, which lead me to believe that it isn't clear what is and isn't legal in this case. Second, as others have stated on this list, I doubt any company or law enforcement agency would prosecute anyone who was making copies for their own personal use and was scrupulous about making sure those copies didn't end up in anyone else's hands. Note that I also feel it's clear that sharing these files, even with a few friends, is illegal, although maybe not unethical. Richard Claypool wrote: Hi, there is fair use, but the digital molenium copyright act prohibits breaking encryption on files. This has been one of the complaints of people for ages that they can't make a personal backup of say a dvd for thier own use because it violates the DMCA. Rick twitter http://twitter.com/elheme msn bellevue@gmail.com skype lord_of_beer - Original Message - From: "Adrian Spratt" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:46 AM Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats Bruce, This is an intelligent but very literal reading. I don't know about Canada, but in the US, copyright law has a fair use exception. There is really nothing to stop an individual from making copies or otherwise using products they own for their own purposes. I assume the manufacturer's purpose behind the provision you quote is to discourage dissemination of these materials. But if individuals don't have that intention, I doubt the manufacturer would have any reason to care. Correct me if I'm overlooking something. All that said, I share your concern that we all respect copyrighted materials and use them only for ourselves and maybe a friend or two. - Original Message - From: "Bruce Toews" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:53 AM Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats It says you shall not modify or disassemble the content. Bruce On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I'm not sure this is true. I may not be able to interpret all of the legal jargon, but I think Audible's terms and conditions plus "fair use" in the US would allow you to convert Audible books into another format for your own personal use. Audible's terms and conditions at http://www.audible.com/adbl/faqs/terms.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes say the following: 6. Grants of Licenses a. Audible Content License. When you "clickout" or otherwise "purchase" (referred to herein, collectively as "Purchase") Audible Content from the Audible Service, Audible grants you a limited, revocable, non-exclusive, non-transferable license to download or stream such Audible Content to your computer and/or your Device(s) solely for your personal non-commercial use. You shall not copy, reproduce, distribute or use the Audible Content in any other manner. You shall not sell, transfer, lease, modify, distribute or publicly perform the Audible Content in any manner and you shall not exploit it commercially. Do not (A) decompile, disassemble, or reverse engineer the Audible Content or attempt to do so; or (B) modify the Audible Content or create any derivative works therefrom. This license to the Audible Content you Purchase will continue for as long as your copy of Audible Content exists pursuant to and in accordance with the terms and conditions of this Agreement. In doing some searching on the web, there are quite a few sites that say converting Audible books to MP3 is legal in the US under "fair use" while others say that Audible's terms and conditions preclude doing this. I'm not sure that I've seen anything
Re: converting other file types
the website for digital media pro version 2.3 is www.deskshare.com you can download the demo there and then purchase if you like it. thanks les - Original Message - From: "Donald" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: RE: converting other file types Where do you get it and what is the cost? In the conversion process do you lose any of the quality? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Les Gordon Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:18 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: converting other file types hi, i use digital media pro 2.3 that can convert most of those file types include dvd and others. - Original Message - From: "Donald" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:54 AM Subject: converting other file types On a similar subject about file conversion, is there a program that will convert wma to mp3? How much quality is lost in the process? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 8:52 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats Thanks all for the information. I personally didn't interpret "do not decompile, disassemble, or reverse engineer the Audible Content" as prohibiting me from converting the media format. Maybe if it had said electronic content instead of "audible content" I might have interpreted it differently. After all, you are allowed to download it, stream it and write it to CD for your own personal use. Granted, I might have read this with a pair of rose colored glasses on. I guess my main point was two fold. First, I saw quite a few sites which claimed that their product was a legal way to convert Audible files into other formats and other sites which talked about what was and wasn't legal given Audible's terms and conditions, the DMAC, fair use and court cases, which lead me to believe that it isn't clear what is and isn't legal in this case. Second, as others have stated on this list, I doubt any company or law enforcement agency would prosecute anyone who was making copies for their own personal use and was scrupulous about making sure those copies didn't end up in anyone else's hands. Note that I also feel it's clear that sharing these files, even with a few friends, is illegal, although maybe not unethical. Richard Claypool wrote: Hi, there is fair use, but the digital molenium copyright act prohibits breaking encryption on files. This has been one of the complaints of people for ages that they can't make a personal backup of say a dvd for thier own use because it violates the DMCA. Rick twitter http://twitter.com/elheme msn bellevue@gmail.com skype lord_of_beer - Original Message - From: "Adrian Spratt" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:46 AM Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats Bruce, This is an intelligent but very literal reading. I don't know about Canada, but in the US, copyright law has a fair use exception. There is really nothing to stop an individual from making copies or otherwise using products they own for their own purposes. I assume the manufacturer's purpose behind the provision you quote is to discourage dissemination of these materials. But if individuals don't have that intention, I doubt the manufacturer would have any reason to care. Correct me if I'm overlooking something. All that said, I share your concern that we all respect copyrighted materials and use them only for ourselves and maybe a friend or two. - Original Message - From: "Bruce Toews" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:53 AM Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats It says you shall not modify or disassemble the content. Bruce On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I'm not sure this is true. I may not be able to interpret all of the legal jargon, but I think Audible's terms and conditions plus "fair use" in the US would allow you to convert Audible books into another format for your own personal use. Audible's terms and conditions at http://www.audible.com/adbl/faqs/terms.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes say the following: 6. Grants of Licenses a. Audible Content License. When you "clickout" or otherwise "purchase" (referred to herein, collectively as "Purchase") Audible Content from the Audible Service, Audible grants you a limited, revocable, non-exclusive, non-transferable license to download or stream such Audible Content to your computer and/or your Device(s) solely for your personal non-commercial use. You shall not copy, reproduce, distribute or use the Audible Content in any other manner. You shall not sell, transfer, lease, modify, distribute or publicly perform the Audible Content in any manner and you shall
converting other file types
On a similar subject about file conversion, is there a program that will convert wma to mp3? How much quality is lost in the process? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 8:52 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats Thanks all for the information. I personally didn't interpret "do not decompile, disassemble, or reverse engineer the Audible Content" as prohibiting me from converting the media format. Maybe if it had said electronic content instead of "audible content" I might have interpreted it differently. After all, you are allowed to download it, stream it and write it to CD for your own personal use. Granted, I might have read this with a pair of rose colored glasses on. I guess my main point was two fold. First, I saw quite a few sites which claimed that their product was a legal way to convert Audible files into other formats and other sites which talked about what was and wasn't legal given Audible's terms and conditions, the DMAC, fair use and court cases, which lead me to believe that it isn't clear what is and isn't legal in this case. Second, as others have stated on this list, I doubt any company or law enforcement agency would prosecute anyone who was making copies for their own personal use and was scrupulous about making sure those copies didn't end up in anyone else's hands. Note that I also feel it's clear that sharing these files, even with a few friends, is illegal, although maybe not unethical. Richard Claypool wrote: > Hi, > > there is fair use, but the digital molenium copyright act prohibits > breaking encryption on files. This has been one of the complaints of > people for ages that they can't make a personal backup of say a dvd > for thier own use because it violates the DMCA. > Rick > twitter > http://twitter.com/elheme > > msn > bellevue@gmail.com > skype > lord_of_beer > - Original Message - From: "Adrian Spratt" > > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:46 AM > Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats > > >> Bruce, >> >> This is an intelligent but very literal reading. I don't know about >> Canada, but in the US, copyright law has a fair use exception. There >> is really nothing to stop an individual from making copies or >> otherwise using products they own for their own purposes. I assume >> the manufacturer's purpose behind the provision you quote is to >> discourage dissemination of these materials. But if individuals don't >> have that intention, I doubt the manufacturer would have any reason >> to care. Correct me if I'm overlooking something. All that said, I >> share your concern that we all respect copyrighted materials and use >> them only for ourselves and maybe a friend or two. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Bruce Toews" >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:53 AM >> Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats >> >> It says you shall not modify or disassemble the content. >> >> Bruce >> >> On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Christopher Chaltain wrote: >> >> I'm not sure this is true. I may not be able to interpret all of the >> legal jargon, but I think Audible's terms and conditions plus "fair >> use" in the US would allow you to convert Audible books into another >> format for your own personal use. >> >> Audible's terms and conditions at >> http://www.audible.com/adbl/faqs/terms.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes say the >> following: >> >> 6. Grants of Licenses >> >> a. Audible Content License. When you "clickout" or otherwise >> "purchase" (referred to herein, collectively as "Purchase") Audible >> Content from the Audible Service, Audible grants you a limited, >> revocable, non-exclusive, non-transferable license to download or >> stream such Audible Content to your computer and/or your Device(s) >> solely for your personal non-commercial use. You shall not copy, >> reproduce, distribute or use the Audible Content in any other manner. >> You shall not sell, transfer, lease, modify, distribute or publicly >> perform the Audible Content in any manner and you shall not exploit >> it commercially. Do not (A) decompile, disassemble, or reverse >> engineer the Audible Content or attempt to do so; or (B) modify the >> Audible Content or create any derivative works therefrom. This >> license to the Audible Content you Purchase will continue for as long >> as your copy of Audible Content exists pursuant to and in accordance >> with the terms and conditions of this Agreement. >> >> In doing some searching on the web, there are quite a few sites that >> say converting Audible books to MP3 is legal in the US under "fair >> use" while others say that Audible's terms and conditions preclude >> doing this. I'm not sure that I've seen anything definitive on eit
RE: downloading music files
Try MP3fiesta.com or MP3VA.com, very good and very economical. Walter. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]on Behalf Of Julio Sent: 30 March 2009 06:30 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: downloading music files Hello I would like to know what's a good sight ware I can download music -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of john schwery Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 5:43 PM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: getting a track list? I downloaded an album of mp3 files and the tracks aren't named correctly. How do I get a track list with the correct names? Thanks in advance for any help. John To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: getting a track list?
Hi Look up the album on Amazon and you will get a track list, the proper one. Walter. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]on Behalf Of john schwery Sent: 30 March 2009 01:43 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: getting a track list? I downloaded an album of mp3 files and the tracks aren't named correctly. How do I get a track list with the correct names? Thanks in advance for any help. John To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
