Re: Off topic posts [was "RE: internet 8"]

2010-06-20 Thread DJ DOCTOR P

Hello,
I am gonna way in on this subject for what it's worth.
When you shut down blind people in this manner, you are in a way insulting 
them.
Just as what was said in an earlier post, sighted people assess information 
on their computers by what they see.
Us blind people, don't have a choice but to assess information by reading 
brail or by listening to it.

In the latter case, our ears are our eyes.
If you take away a blind person's ability to hear, you take away his/her 
ability to see.

That's what screen readers do for us.
This is my opinion for what it's worth, but in order for this list to be a 
true PC AUDIO list, you need to broaden your view of things because your 
views are a little too narrow.

 John.
- Original Message - 
From: "Adrian Spratt" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 11:13 PM
Subject: RE: Off topic posts [was "RE: internet 8"]



This is good advice; Tom would make his life easier by identifying himself
as the moderator when making these decisions. Because he hasn't checked in
since this post, I'll confirm that he is the moderator. There isn't a 
better

one out there. For what it's worth, I agree that a question about how JAWS
works with IE8 isn't right for this list. The answer, as implied by 
another

lister and that would be given more appropriately on a JAWS list, is that
this particular error message in IE8 indicates that the user needs to
upgrade JAWS.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 9:00 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: Off topic posts [was "RE: internet 8"]

Are you the moderator of the list Tom, and if so, were you speaking as the
moderator? If that's the case, then I'd suggest you identify yourself as
such when making such a statement. Otherwise, you might just be taken as a
moderator want to be and either ignored or criticized. That's just my
advice.

BTW, I agree that the post in question was off topic, and I don't have any
problem with you pointing that out. As you know though, PC audio is a 
pretty
pervasive topic, so I think a lot of leniency is called for on such a 
list,
and in general, I think it's been a pretty lenient list. I don't have a 
lot

of patience though for people who think absolutely everything is fair game
for this list just because I use a screen reader which happens to use my
sound card. Ditto for people who won't submit to moderation.

--
Christopher chalt...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 5:42 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: internet 8

The subject is related to Internet Explorer and a screen reader. Internet
Explorer is an Internet browser and not a piece of audio software.

Tom

** Message From: Johnny Angel! ** Dear Tom,

I respectfully disagree with you. If Sam is hearing something and talks
about what he is hearing, is it then not related to something audio?

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RE: Off topic posts [was "RE: internet 8"]

2010-06-20 Thread Adrian Spratt
This is good advice; Tom would make his life easier by identifying himself
as the moderator when making these decisions. Because he hasn't checked in
since this post, I'll confirm that he is the moderator. There isn't a better
one out there. For what it's worth, I agree that a question about how JAWS
works with IE8 isn't right for this list. The answer, as implied by another
lister and that would be given more appropriately on a JAWS list, is that
this particular error message in IE8 indicates that the user needs to
upgrade JAWS.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 9:00 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: Off topic posts [was "RE: internet 8"]

Are you the moderator of the list Tom, and if so, were you speaking as the
moderator? If that's the case, then I'd suggest you identify yourself as
such when making such a statement. Otherwise, you might just be taken as a
moderator want to be and either ignored or criticized. That's just my
advice.

BTW, I agree that the post in question was off topic, and I don't have any
problem with you pointing that out. As you know though, PC audio is a pretty
pervasive topic, so I think a lot of leniency is called for on such a list,
and in general, I think it's been a pretty lenient list. I don't have a lot
of patience though for people who think absolutely everything is fair game
for this list just because I use a screen reader which happens to use my
sound card. Ditto for people who won't submit to moderation.

--
Christopher chalt...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 5:42 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: internet 8

The subject is related to Internet Explorer and a screen reader. Internet
Explorer is an Internet browser and not a piece of audio software.

Tom

** Message From: Johnny Angel! ** Dear Tom,

I respectfully disagree with you. If Sam is hearing something and talks
about what he is hearing, is it then not related to something audio?

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Re: Off topic posts [was "RE: internet 8"]

2010-06-20 Thread Sunshine
Ok, tom, and others the usage of a screen reader, which gives out audio 
output to let a blind person  hear what is being read is most certainly 
audio related, how do you expect a person to use the audio products/ other 
things that work with audio products such as winamp and the web with out 
using a product that has audio output?
not trying to start a fight or argument session here but am trying to 
enlighten everyone on the possibility that  screen readers use audio to 
comunicate the information on screen to blind people.
Sighted people use their eyes to astablish the usage of products and 
services which blind people use a screen reader to enjoy their internet 
experiences/ other hobbies they partake in.

- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 7:59 PM
Subject: Off topic posts [was "RE: internet 8"]


Are you the moderator of the list Tom, and if so, were you speaking as the
moderator? If that's the case, then I'd suggest you identify yourself as
such when making such a statement. Otherwise, you might just be taken as a
moderator want to be and either ignored or criticized. That's just my
advice.

BTW, I agree that the post in question was off topic, and I don't have any
problem with you pointing that out. As you know though, PC audio is a pretty
pervasive topic, so I think a lot of leniency is called for on such a list,
and in general, I think it's been a pretty lenient list. I don't have a lot
of patience though for people who think absolutely everything is fair game
for this list just because I use a screen reader which happens to use my
sound card. Ditto for people who won't submit to moderation.

--
Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 5:42 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: internet 8

The subject is related to Internet Explorer and a screen
reader.  Internet Explorer is an Internet browser and not a
piece of audio software.

Tom

** Message From: Johnny Angel! **
>Dear Tom,
>
>I respectfully disagree with you.  If Sam is hearing
>something and talks about what he is hearing, is it then not
>related to something audio?



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Off topic posts [was "RE: internet 8"]

2010-06-20 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Are you the moderator of the list Tom, and if so, were you speaking as the
moderator? If that's the case, then I'd suggest you identify yourself as
such when making such a statement. Otherwise, you might just be taken as a
moderator want to be and either ignored or criticized. That's just my
advice.

BTW, I agree that the post in question was off topic, and I don't have any
problem with you pointing that out. As you know though, PC audio is a pretty
pervasive topic, so I think a lot of leniency is called for on such a list,
and in general, I think it's been a pretty lenient list. I don't have a lot
of patience though for people who think absolutely everything is fair game
for this list just because I use a screen reader which happens to use my
sound card. Ditto for people who won't submit to moderation.

--
Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 5:42 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: internet 8

The subject is related to Internet Explorer and a screen 
reader.  Internet Explorer is an Internet browser and not a 
piece of audio software.

Tom

** Message From: Johnny Angel! **
>Dear Tom,
>
>I respectfully disagree with you.  If Sam is hearing 
>something and talks about what he is hearing, is it then not 
>related to something audio?



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Re: internet 8

2010-06-20 Thread sam jackson
shove your list up your asss 
- Original Message - 
From: "Tom" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: internet 8



This message is not audio related so is off topic for this list.

Please keep messages audio related.

Thanks,

Tom

** Message From: sam jackson **
Greetings all! 

Can someone tell me how to stop the annoying message in 
internet explorer 8 that says - "open parent document button". 

This happens after I have typed in the address I want to go 
to. Maybe there is something I need to turn off in settings? 
any help on this would be greatly appreciated, please.




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Re: internet 8

2010-06-20 Thread Tom
The subject is related to Internet Explorer and a screen 
reader.  Internet Explorer is an Internet browser and not a 
piece of audio software.

Tom

** Message From: Johnny Angel! **
>Dear Tom,
>
>I respectfully disagree with you.  If Sam is hearing 
>something and talks about what he is hearing, is it then not 
>related to something audio?



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Re: internet 8

2010-06-20 Thread sam jackson

sorry I broke the law
- Original Message - 
From: "Tom" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: internet 8



This message is not audio related so is off topic for this list.

Please keep messages audio related.

Thanks,

Tom

** Message From: sam jackson **
Greetings all! 

Can someone tell me how to stop the annoying message in 
internet explorer 8 that says - "open parent document button". 

This happens after I have typed in the address I want to go 
to. Maybe there is something I need to turn off in settings? 
any help on this would be greatly appreciated, please.




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Winamp questions

2010-06-20 Thread Donald L. Roberts
I would like to know if there is some means of copying all mp3 tag 
info for each track in a playlist to a text file.  Although my primary 
screen reader is Window-Eyes 7.2, I also have a JFW demo on my system. 
So if there is a way to do this without manually copying the info for 
each track, please tell me the procedure.

The next question is a long shot but worth a try.  Although a lot of 
people want gapless track playing, I want the opposite because I copy 
some play lists to mini disc, and a 2 to 3 second pause between tracks 
is necessary to place the mark for a new track.  So, I want to know if 
it is possible to cause Winamp to delay the playing of each track for 
two seconds or so.

Lastly, someone else asked a question recently as to how to auto tag 
multiple files.  I too want to know how to do this.  I know how to 
auto tag individual files but not multiple files.

Thanks in advance for ideas.

Don Roberts


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Re: internet 8

2010-06-20 Thread Johnny Angel!

Dear Tom,

I respectfully disagree with you.  If Sam is hearing something and 
talks about what he is hearing, is it then not related to something audio?


At 05:33 PM 6/20/2010, you wrote:

This message is not audio related so is off topic for this list.

Please keep messages audio related.

Thanks,

Tom

** Message From: sam jackson **
>Greetings all!
>
>Can someone tell me how to stop the annoying message in
>internet explorer 8 that says - "open parent document button".
>
>This happens after I have typed in the address I want to go
>to. Maybe there is something I need to turn off in settings?
>any help on this would be greatly appreciated, please.



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Re: internet 8

2010-06-20 Thread Tom
This message is not audio related so is off topic for this list.

Please keep messages audio related.

Thanks,

Tom

** Message From: sam jackson **
>Greetings all! 
>
>Can someone tell me how to stop the annoying message in 
>internet explorer 8 that says - "open parent document button". 
>
>This happens after I have typed in the address I want to go 
>to. Maybe there is something I need to turn off in settings? 
>any help on this would be greatly appreciated, please.



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Re: internet 8

2010-06-20 Thread chris hallsworth

What screen reader and version are you using?


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On 20/06/2010 21:22, sam jackson wrote:

Greetings all!

Can someone tell me how to stop the annoying message in internet explorer 8 that says - 
"open parent document button".

This happens after I have typed in the address I want to go to. Maybe there is 
something I need to turn off in settings? any help on this would be greatly 
appreciated, please.
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internet 8

2010-06-20 Thread sam jackson
Greetings all! 

Can someone tell me how to stop the annoying message in internet explorer 8 
that says - "open parent document button". 

This happens after I have typed in the address I want to go to. Maybe there is 
something I need to turn off in settings? any help on this would be greatly 
appreciated, please.
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RE: audio through sound card is choppy

2010-06-20 Thread Alex Stone
Dan, where's the sound coming from? Is it over the net? Or is it on your
local hard drive or a cd?
Cheers
Alex

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On Behalf Of dan thompson
Sent: 20 June 2010 20:58
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: audio through sound card is choppy

Hi All,I am using win-xp pro with all updates.  However, when using the
onboard soundcard, both screenreaders have a kind of choppy sound.  I am
nnot sure how to explain it better.  All the sound comes through but sort of
choppy.  I went under the device manager and updated the drivers with the
same result.
Does anyone have any idas how to make the speech come through smoother?
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audio through sound card is choppy

2010-06-20 Thread dan thompson
Hi All,I am using win-xp pro with all updates.  However, when using the onboard 
soundcard, both screenreaders have a kind of choppy sound.  I am nnot sure how 
to explain it better.  All the sound comes through but sort of choppy.  I went 
under the device manager and updated the drivers with the same result.
Does anyone have any idas how to make the speech come through smoother?
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Re: text aloud

2010-06-20 Thread Sunshine
if you go on the nex up  site you can download the text aloud 3.0 
demo/trial.
- Original Message - 
From: "Kevin Cussick" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: text aloud


Hi,

Can't remember what version I'm running.

So no I have not tried the beta version,  What does it do and when did
it go up there for trial?

To convert your text to mp3 I think it's alt s but you have to go into
option's and tell it what sort of file you want it to save as.

My skype name is mm0tmg  so if you have skype add me and we can talk
more on skype.
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All The Best
Kevin Cussick

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Re: text aloud

2010-06-20 Thread Kevin Cussick

Hi,

Can't remember what version I'm running.

So no I have not tried the beta version,  What does it do and when did 
it go up there for trial?


To convert your text to mp3 I think it's alt s but you have to go into 
option's and tell it what sort of file you want it to save as.


My skype name is mm0tmg  so if you have skype add me and we can talk 
more on skype.

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All The Best
Kevin Cussick

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Re: text aloud

2010-06-20 Thread Sunshine
Ok, i don't get the pops and clicks what would be the best  way to convert 
the txt files then in text aloud?
and have you tried the version 3.0 beta yet?
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From: "Kevin Cussick" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: text aloud


Hi,

You don't get clicks and pops.

If you do it must be your sound card and I can't help you.

Ta is a very good program I have used it for years and had no problems.
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Re: text aloud

2010-06-20 Thread Kevin Cussick

Hi,

You don't get clicks and pops.

If you do it must be your sound card and I can't help you.

Ta is a very good program I have used it for years and had no problems.
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RE: Recording What you Hear in Windows 7?

2010-06-20 Thread Samuel Wilkins
What sound card do you use? 

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Matthew Bullis
Sent: 20 June 2010 05:59
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Recording What you Hear in Windows 7?

Hello, since I can't figure out the layout or configuration of the 
options in Windows 7, and since my sound card supports the what you hear 
option in XP but apparently not in Windows 7, I'm wondering if Total 
Recorder or Replay AV will take care of the what you hear option for me? 
Usually when I need to record using the what you hear or stereo master 
functions, I would just select that option and then record with Sound Forge.

However, since this isn't possible in Windows 7 that I've found, does Total 
Recorder or Replay AV let me record using this option built into either 
program? For instance, if I'm recording the output of my screen reader to a 
file, or the playing of a stream, does either program just simply record the

audio that comes out of the sound card, or does it actually record internet 
streams only? I don't need this option very often, but when I do, I'd like 
to be versed in how to use it. I'd like to learn it before I have to rush a 
project and have to learn quickly.
Thanks a lot.
Matthew 


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