Re: book tapes

2012-03-18 Thread Robert Nelson

Holger,

What you want to do is straightforward enough.  

You will need-
  a.. A sound card with a stereo line input.  A second sound card would make 
life simpler, by allowing you to route the screen reader speech to the sound 
card that is NOT handling the recording input (thereby making sure that you 
don't get screen reader speech in your recording);
  b.. A stereo cassette deck and a patch cord to connect the deck to the input 
of the sound card (I know that some people on the list will argue with this, 
but 4 track books are just stereo recordings with the tracks assigned 
differently);
  c.. An audio editing program, such as Sound Forge, Goldwave or audacity.  A 
very useful feature you should look for in the audio editor is the function to 
reverse the playback of sound.  That is to say, if a track is playing 
backwards, the function will reverse it so that it plays forwards in the normal 
intelligible way;
  d.. And the most important thing you will need is time and patience because, 
even if you record 4 track books in stereo at  one and seven-eighths inches per 
second (twice the 4 track book speed), it will still be a time consuming 
process.

Over the last 15 years I have converted hundreds of 4 track recordings of 
lectures and seminars.  The process is a little complicated so I won't waste 
space describing it here.

If you would like to know how to edit 4 track books then please e-mail me 
directly at-
rsnel...@optusnet.com.au

Robert Nelson

- Original Message - 
From: Holger Fiallo holgerfia...@comcast.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 2:27 PM
Subject: book tapes


 Hello.
 I have many audio books and music on tapes (cassettes) Would like to put them 
 in my PC. Which program will help me do so and work with jaws 13. Using 
 window seven home 64 and jaws 13.
 
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Re: book tapes

2012-03-18 Thread Dane Trethowan
Okay first thing which may save you a whole heap of time, have you had a look 
around to see if the books you have are available in other formats such as on 
CD, Daisy and so forth? I know that a lot of the old RNIB books for example 
have been taken from their master tapes and made available in Daisy format.


On 18/03/2012, at 3:27 PM, Holger Fiallo wrote:

 Hello.
 I have many audio books and music on tapes (cassettes) Would like to put them 
 in my PC. Which program will help me do so and work with jaws 13. Using 
 window seven home 64 and jaws 13.
 
 Holger Fiallo
 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
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RE: Message From The PC Audio E-mail List owner

2012-03-18 Thread Adrian Spratt
Dane,

That's a low blow at the Christophers. Two come to mind right away whose
contributions are among the most innovative and reliable on this list. Hi
there, in San Antonio and Derbyshire!

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 12:30 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Message From The PC Audio E-mail List owner

The best statement I've heard yet so thanks Steve for posting.

As far as I'm concerned Mr Moderator, you're doing a damn good job at
moderation and thank you for posting to the list, I'd rather hear from the
moderators themselves than pretend list cops, why is it that all the
Christopher's I know are an absolute pain in the behind to deal with
smile.

Anyway back to the subject in hand, this list has a wide scope of messages
on it at anyone time and some of these threads do start off on the right
subject but can lead to others which aren't appropriate for the list
perhaps? Well in such cases I reckon that good moderation dictates that at
least a list member or 2 can point a person to another list or group which
can deal with a subject more efficiently, an example of this sort of thing
might be playing music on a mobile phone, its easy to start talking then
about accessibility with speech which can probably be handled better on a
list which is dedicated to mobile phone accessibility so the least that can
be done to try and be helpful to all concern is for someone to post details
of that list.


On 18/03/2012, at 2:53 PM, Steve Matzura wrote:

 What Jonathan or Jeff did is ancient history, relatively speaking of 
 course. I don't believe in legacy management. That means I don't 
 believe list moderators need to carry torches. It's your list now. You 
 do with it as you like. You were not necessarily entrusted with the 
 ownership of this list because either Jonathan or Jeff expected you to 
 drive it in any particular direction, and there is certainly no 
 provision for either of them taking the list away from you if they 
 don't like how you're running it. At least, I don't think there is 
 (LOL). Bottom line, it's your toy and you're letting us play with it.
 Make whatever rule you like with the full confidence that you should 
 definitely have in doing such. If we don't like it, we don't have to 
 stay. I run a few lists of my own, small ones, just a few hundred 
 subscribers each, which have spawned, or spun off if you prefer, other 
 lists on side issues and threads of which I don't tolerate discussion 
 on my list, and that's both my and my subscribers' prerogative. As you 
 pointed out, the list of devices for recording and playing audio 
 whilst connected to a PC is now far longer in lo these dozen short 
 years, and you've also no doubt noticed there are lots of lists for 
 the discussion of those devices. Bottom line, like I said before, it's 
 up to you how you want to drive your own list, and it's up to us 
 whether we want to stay with it or move on. No harm, no foul, as they 
 say. And, as I say, that's why there's Coke and Pepsi--always choices.
 
 On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 17:31:53 -0500, you wrote:
 
 I appreciate the comments some subscribers to this e-mail list have 
 made regarding what is and what is not on topic for this list, and I 
 thank you for your input.
 
 You may or may not know that Jonathan Mosen started this list many 
 years ago.  I'm not sure when, but it was around 1999.
 After a few years Jonathan no longer wanted to be moderator so he 
 turned it over to Jeff Harris.  I'm pretty sure that Jeff is the one 
 who obtained the domain name and took care of the web hosting site, 
 at ultrahost.us.  After another few years Jeff no longer wanted the 
 list so Jonathan again became the list owner and moderator.
 
 Again, my memory is a bit fuzzy on the time interval, but it was 
 perhaps five or six years ago when Jonathan asked for volunteers to 
 take ownership and moderating the list and, I'm not sure why, but he 
 chose me from those who responded.  I did not write the guidelines 
 for what is appropriate to be posted to the list.  It was either 
 Jonathan or Jeff.
 
 It's a difficult decision to make as to what is appropriate for the 
 list and what is not.  When the guidelines were written, there 
 weren't devices such as iPods, iPhones, Humanware or Victor Streams.  
 Discussing cell phones has been off topic on this list for a long 
 time.  Jonathan even has, or had, a list for these discussions.
 
 Since the traffic on the list is still rather small, I think we'll 
 just see how subjects and issues play out.  Any comments regarding 
 the content of the list will be appreciated.
 
 I do pay a fee every year for the domain name and web hosting space 
 so I take the list seriously and I want it to be whatever the 
 majority of list members prefer.
 
 My e-mail address is:
 
 t...@pc-audio.org
 
 Thanks for reading, if you did!
 
 Tom
 
 
 

Re: Message From The PC Audio E-mail List owner

2012-03-18 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Well, I'm sure I'm not one of the Christopher's Adrian is referring to,
but I'm sure I'm in that illustrious class of Christopher's Dane is
talking about. Hopefully, he's not really discriminating against
everyone named Christopher just because of his feelings towards me.

I don't feel myself to be a pretend list cop. I've merely pointed out
what is clearly stated in the info for this list and provided my
opinions, with explanations, on where I think this list should go. I've
provided links to other sources of information and other lists, when
I've known about them, and when I thought someone could get more
accurate and timely information elsewhere. I worked hard to make my
statements tactful and polite and free from rudeness or criticism. I've
tried to be nothing but supportive of the moderator and even help out
where I could. In fact, I think both Tom's and Steve's messages were in
support of my statements and efforts, although maybe I misread those
messages, but I suspect it's rather a case of we're all in more
agreement with one another than maybe we realize.

I also think Dane is being a bit hypocritical in this situation. Several
times he's made bold and unequivocal statements on what is and isn't on
topic for this list, which smacks of wanting to be a moderator to me.
He's complained that others are rude and making the INTERNET a less
friendly place, and yet he posts a message like the one below.

IMHO, I think we should move on and let Tom's statement speak for
itself. We all seem to be in agreement that it's Tom's list to moderate
as he sees fit.

On 18/03/12 06:42, Adrian Spratt wrote:
 Dane,
 
 That's a low blow at the Christophers. Two come to mind right away whose
 contributions are among the most innovative and reliable on this list. Hi
 there, in San Antonio and Derbyshire!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
 Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 12:30 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Message From The PC Audio E-mail List owner
 
 The best statement I've heard yet so thanks Steve for posting.
 
 As far as I'm concerned Mr Moderator, you're doing a damn good job at
 moderation and thank you for posting to the list, I'd rather hear from the
 moderators themselves than pretend list cops, why is it that all the
 Christopher's I know are an absolute pain in the behind to deal with
 smile.
 
 Anyway back to the subject in hand, this list has a wide scope of messages
 on it at anyone time and some of these threads do start off on the right
 subject but can lead to others which aren't appropriate for the list
 perhaps? Well in such cases I reckon that good moderation dictates that at
 least a list member or 2 can point a person to another list or group which
 can deal with a subject more efficiently, an example of this sort of thing
 might be playing music on a mobile phone, its easy to start talking then
 about accessibility with speech which can probably be handled better on a
 list which is dedicated to mobile phone accessibility so the least that can
 be done to try and be helpful to all concern is for someone to post details
 of that list.
 
 
 On 18/03/2012, at 2:53 PM, Steve Matzura wrote:
 
 What Jonathan or Jeff did is ancient history, relatively speaking of 
 course. I don't believe in legacy management. That means I don't 
 believe list moderators need to carry torches. It's your list now. You 
 do with it as you like. You were not necessarily entrusted with the 
 ownership of this list because either Jonathan or Jeff expected you to 
 drive it in any particular direction, and there is certainly no 
 provision for either of them taking the list away from you if they 
 don't like how you're running it. At least, I don't think there is 
 (LOL). Bottom line, it's your toy and you're letting us play with it.
 Make whatever rule you like with the full confidence that you should 
 definitely have in doing such. If we don't like it, we don't have to 
 stay. I run a few lists of my own, small ones, just a few hundred 
 subscribers each, which have spawned, or spun off if you prefer, other 
 lists on side issues and threads of which I don't tolerate discussion 
 on my list, and that's both my and my subscribers' prerogative. As you 
 pointed out, the list of devices for recording and playing audio 
 whilst connected to a PC is now far longer in lo these dozen short 
 years, and you've also no doubt noticed there are lots of lists for 
 the discussion of those devices. Bottom line, like I said before, it's 
 up to you how you want to drive your own list, and it's up to us 
 whether we want to stay with it or move on. No harm, no foul, as they 
 say. And, as I say, that's why there's Coke and Pepsi--always choices.

 On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 17:31:53 -0500, you wrote:

 I appreciate the comments some subscribers to this e-mail list have 
 made regarding what is and what is not on topic for this list, 

Re: Message From The PC Audio E-mail List owner

2012-03-18 Thread Charlie
   Hello --- having read what has been said on this thread, it brings me to 
ask this question.  Could someone point me in the direction of links to 
other sources of information and other lists that deal with the IPod Touch. 
I went to the Applevis webpage and found the related mailing lists.


So, if anyone has any other resource, please let me know.

Charlie


- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: Message From The PC Audio E-mail List owner



Well, I'm sure I'm not one of the Christopher's Adrian is referring to,
but I'm sure I'm in that illustrious class of Christopher's Dane is
talking about. Hopefully, he's not really discriminating against
everyone named Christopher just because of his feelings towards me.

I don't feel myself to be a pretend list cop. I've merely pointed out
what is clearly stated in the info for this list and provided my
opinions, with explanations, on where I think this list should go. I've
provided links to other sources of information and other lists, when
I've known about them, and when I thought someone could get more
accurate and timely information elsewhere. I worked hard to make my
statements tactful and polite and free from rudeness or criticism. I've
tried to be nothing but supportive of the moderator and even help out
where I could. In fact, I think both Tom's and Steve's messages were in
support of my statements and efforts, although maybe I misread those
messages, but I suspect it's rather a case of we're all in more
agreement with one another than maybe we realize.

I also think Dane is being a bit hypocritical in this situation. Several
times he's made bold and unequivocal statements on what is and isn't on
topic for this list, which smacks of wanting to be a moderator to me.
He's complained that others are rude and making the INTERNET a less
friendly place, and yet he posts a message like the one below.

IMHO, I think we should move on and let Tom's statement speak for
itself. We all seem to be in agreement that it's Tom's list to moderate
as he sees fit.

On 18/03/12 06:42, Adrian Spratt wrote:

Dane,

That's a low blow at the Christophers. Two come to mind right away whose
contributions are among the most innovative and reliable on this list. Hi
there, in San Antonio and Derbyshire!

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 12:30 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Message From The PC Audio E-mail List owner

The best statement I've heard yet so thanks Steve for posting.

As far as I'm concerned Mr Moderator, you're doing a damn good job at
moderation and thank you for posting to the list, I'd rather hear from 
the

moderators themselves than pretend list cops, why is it that all the
Christopher's I know are an absolute pain in the behind to deal with
smile.

Anyway back to the subject in hand, this list has a wide scope of 
messages

on it at anyone time and some of these threads do start off on the right
subject but can lead to others which aren't appropriate for the list
perhaps? Well in such cases I reckon that good moderation dictates that 
at
least a list member or 2 can point a person to another list or group 
which
can deal with a subject more efficiently, an example of this sort of 
thing

might be playing music on a mobile phone, its easy to start talking then
about accessibility with speech which can probably be handled better on a
list which is dedicated to mobile phone accessibility so the least that 
can
be done to try and be helpful to all concern is for someone to post 
details

of that list.


On 18/03/2012, at 2:53 PM, Steve Matzura wrote:


What Jonathan or Jeff did is ancient history, relatively speaking of
course. I don't believe in legacy management. That means I don't
believe list moderators need to carry torches. It's your list now. You
do with it as you like. You were not necessarily entrusted with the
ownership of this list because either Jonathan or Jeff expected you to
drive it in any particular direction, and there is certainly no
provision for either of them taking the list away from you if they
don't like how you're running it. At least, I don't think there is
(LOL). Bottom line, it's your toy and you're letting us play with it.
Make whatever rule you like with the full confidence that you should
definitely have in doing such. If we don't like it, we don't have to
stay. I run a few lists of my own, small ones, just a few hundred
subscribers each, which have spawned, or spun off if you prefer, other
lists on side issues and threads of which I don't tolerate discussion
on my list, and that's both my and my subscribers' prerogative. As you
pointed out, the list of devices for recording and playing audio
whilst connected to a PC is now far longer in lo these dozen short

Re: Message From The PC Audio E-mail List owner

2012-03-18 Thread Dane Trethowan
There's a list that deals with iPod touch and other Apple related product at 
http://www.mac-access.net
On 19/03/2012, at 2:59 AM, Charlie wrote:

   Hello --- having read what has been said on this thread, it brings me to 
 ask this question.  Could someone point me in the direction of links to other 
 sources of information and other lists that deal with the IPod Touch. I went 
 to the Applevis webpage and found the related mailing lists.
 
 So, if anyone has any other resource, please let me know.
 
 Charlie
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 10:30 AM
 Subject: Re: Message From The PC Audio E-mail List owner
 
 
 Well, I'm sure I'm not one of the Christopher's Adrian is referring to,
 but I'm sure I'm in that illustrious class of Christopher's Dane is
 talking about. Hopefully, he's not really discriminating against
 everyone named Christopher just because of his feelings towards me.
 
 I don't feel myself to be a pretend list cop. I've merely pointed out
 what is clearly stated in the info for this list and provided my
 opinions, with explanations, on where I think this list should go. I've
 provided links to other sources of information and other lists, when
 I've known about them, and when I thought someone could get more
 accurate and timely information elsewhere. I worked hard to make my
 statements tactful and polite and free from rudeness or criticism. I've
 tried to be nothing but supportive of the moderator and even help out
 where I could. In fact, I think both Tom's and Steve's messages were in
 support of my statements and efforts, although maybe I misread those
 messages, but I suspect it's rather a case of we're all in more
 agreement with one another than maybe we realize.
 
 I also think Dane is being a bit hypocritical in this situation. Several
 times he's made bold and unequivocal statements on what is and isn't on
 topic for this list, which smacks of wanting to be a moderator to me.
 He's complained that others are rude and making the INTERNET a less
 friendly place, and yet he posts a message like the one below.
 
 IMHO, I think we should move on and let Tom's statement speak for
 itself. We all seem to be in agreement that it's Tom's list to moderate
 as he sees fit.
 
 On 18/03/12 06:42, Adrian Spratt wrote:
 Dane,
 
 That's a low blow at the Christophers. Two come to mind right away whose
 contributions are among the most innovative and reliable on this list. Hi
 there, in San Antonio and Derbyshire!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
 Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 12:30 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Message From The PC Audio E-mail List owner
 
 The best statement I've heard yet so thanks Steve for posting.
 
 As far as I'm concerned Mr Moderator, you're doing a damn good job at
 moderation and thank you for posting to the list, I'd rather hear from the
 moderators themselves than pretend list cops, why is it that all the
 Christopher's I know are an absolute pain in the behind to deal with
 smile.
 
 Anyway back to the subject in hand, this list has a wide scope of messages
 on it at anyone time and some of these threads do start off on the right
 subject but can lead to others which aren't appropriate for the list
 perhaps? Well in such cases I reckon that good moderation dictates that at
 least a list member or 2 can point a person to another list or group which
 can deal with a subject more efficiently, an example of this sort of thing
 might be playing music on a mobile phone, its easy to start talking then
 about accessibility with speech which can probably be handled better on a
 list which is dedicated to mobile phone accessibility so the least that can
 be done to try and be helpful to all concern is for someone to post details
 of that list.
 
 
 On 18/03/2012, at 2:53 PM, Steve Matzura wrote:
 
 What Jonathan or Jeff did is ancient history, relatively speaking of
 course. I don't believe in legacy management. That means I don't
 believe list moderators need to carry torches. It's your list now. You
 do with it as you like. You were not necessarily entrusted with the
 ownership of this list because either Jonathan or Jeff expected you to
 drive it in any particular direction, and there is certainly no
 provision for either of them taking the list away from you if they
 don't like how you're running it. At least, I don't think there is
 (LOL). Bottom line, it's your toy and you're letting us play with it.
 Make whatever rule you like with the full confidence that you should
 definitely have in doing such. If we don't like it, we don't have to
 stay. I run a few lists of my own, small ones, just a few hundred
 subscribers each, which have spawned, or spun off if you prefer, other
 lists on side issues and threads of which I don't 

Apple iPod Touch (4th generation) Review - iPod MP3 players

2012-03-18 Thread Dane Trethowan
Hi!

Since there's been a little talk on this list about the iPod Touch 4th 
Generation, I thought I'd post this review, its a damn good read in my opinion.

http://www.cnet.com.au/apple-ipod-touch-4th-generation-339305724.htm

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Re: Apple iPod Touch (4th generation) Review - iPod MP3 players

2012-03-18 Thread Charlie
Thanks, Dane -- The more I research that little device, the sooner I will 
purchase it.  :)


Charlie

- Original Message - 
From: Dane Trethowan d.tretho...@me.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 12:03 PM
Subject: Apple iPod Touch (4th generation) Review - iPod  MP3 players



Hi!

Since there's been a little talk on this list about the iPod Touch 4th 
Generation, I thought I'd post this review, its a damn good read in my 
opinion.


http://www.cnet.com.au/apple-ipod-touch-4th-generation-339305724.htm

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Re: book tapes

2012-03-18 Thread Holger Fiallo

I do not want to spent money. I have a big collection.

-Original Message- 
From: Dane Trethowan

Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 4:29 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: book tapes

Okay first thing which may save you a whole heap of time, have you had a 
look around to see if the books you have are available in other formats such 
as on CD, Daisy and so forth? I know that a lot of the old RNIB books for 
example have been taken from their master tapes and made available in Daisy 
format.



On 18/03/2012, at 3:27 PM, Holger Fiallo wrote:


Hello.
I have many audio books and music on tapes (cassettes) Would like to put 
them in my PC. Which program will help me do so and work with jaws 13. 
Using window seven home 64 and jaws 13.


Holger Fiallo
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Re: book tapes

2012-03-18 Thread Holger Fiallo

which sound program works well with jaws?

-Original Message- 
From: Robert Nelson

Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 4:26 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: book tapes


Holger,

What you want to do is straightforward enough.

You will need-
 a.. A sound card with a stereo line input.  A second sound card would make 
life simpler, by allowing you to route the screen reader speech to the sound 
card that is NOT handling the recording input (thereby making sure that you 
don't get screen reader speech in your recording);
 b.. A stereo cassette deck and a patch cord to connect the deck to the 
input of the sound card (I know that some people on the list will argue with 
this, but 4 track books are just stereo recordings with the tracks assigned 
differently);
 c.. An audio editing program, such as Sound Forge, Goldwave or audacity. 
A very useful feature you should look for in the audio editor is the 
function to reverse the playback of sound.  That is to say, if a track is 
playing backwards, the function will reverse it so that it plays forwards in 
the normal intelligible way;
 d.. And the most important thing you will need is time and patience 
because, even if you record 4 track books in stereo at  one and 
seven-eighths inches per second (twice the 4 track book speed), it will 
still be a time consuming process.


Over the last 15 years I have converted hundreds of 4 track recordings of 
lectures and seminars.  The process is a little complicated so I won't waste 
space describing it here.


If you would like to know how to edit 4 track books then please e-mail me 
directly at-

rsnel...@optusnet.com.au

Robert Nelson

- Original Message - 
From: Holger Fiallo holgerfia...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 2:27 PM
Subject: book tapes



Hello.
I have many audio books and music on tapes (cassettes) Would like to put 
them in my PC. Which program will help me do so and work with jaws 13. 
Using window seven home 64 and jaws 13.


Holger Fiallo
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Re: book tapes

2012-03-18 Thread Holger Fiallo

I do have 2 sound card in my PC

-Original Message- 
From: Robert Nelson

Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 4:26 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: book tapes


Holger,

What you want to do is straightforward enough.

You will need-
 a.. A sound card with a stereo line input.  A second sound card would make 
life simpler, by allowing you to route the screen reader speech to the sound 
card that is NOT handling the recording input (thereby making sure that you 
don't get screen reader speech in your recording);
 b.. A stereo cassette deck and a patch cord to connect the deck to the 
input of the sound card (I know that some people on the list will argue with 
this, but 4 track books are just stereo recordings with the tracks assigned 
differently);
 c.. An audio editing program, such as Sound Forge, Goldwave or audacity. 
A very useful feature you should look for in the audio editor is the 
function to reverse the playback of sound.  That is to say, if a track is 
playing backwards, the function will reverse it so that it plays forwards in 
the normal intelligible way;
 d.. And the most important thing you will need is time and patience 
because, even if you record 4 track books in stereo at  one and 
seven-eighths inches per second (twice the 4 track book speed), it will 
still be a time consuming process.


Over the last 15 years I have converted hundreds of 4 track recordings of 
lectures and seminars.  The process is a little complicated so I won't waste 
space describing it here.


If you would like to know how to edit 4 track books then please e-mail me 
directly at-

rsnel...@optusnet.com.au

Robert Nelson

- Original Message - 
From: Holger Fiallo holgerfia...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 2:27 PM
Subject: book tapes



Hello.
I have many audio books and music on tapes (cassettes) Would like to put 
them in my PC. Which program will help me do so and work with jaws 13. 
Using window seven home 64 and jaws 13.


Holger Fiallo
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transferring audio tapes to cd

2012-03-18 Thread Bud Schwab

Hi Gang,

I see a similar subject going on here but I seem to be having a 
problem trying to do it.  I have done it in the past with no problem 
but it has been quite a while and I'm a little hazy about it all.  I 
do have CDEX and total recorder and a couple other programs.  My 
problem is however when I feed audio into the audio input jack I get 
no sound from the speakers.  I used to do it with this particular 
setup.  I'm running windows 7 64 bit and windoweyes.  I tried to do a 
diagnosis and got this message.


Both windows audio and windows audio end. builder services must be 
running for audio to work correctly. At least one of these services 
isnl't running.  This is kind of above my head.  Anybody have any 
ideas as to my problem and any easy way to fix it?


Thanks in advance so much.


Bud Schwab
W 6 Z Y P
Malibu, California
 



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Re: Apple iPod Touch (4th generation) Review - iPod MP3 players

2012-03-18 Thread Dane Trethowan
A lot to be said for an iPod, was thinking about purchasing a Plextalk Pocket 
and now I'm no longer interested smile.


On 19/03/2012, at 3:14 AM, Charlie wrote:

 Thanks, Dane -- The more I research that little device, the sooner I will 
 purchase it.  :)
 
 Charlie
 
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 Subject: Apple iPod Touch (4th generation) Review - iPod  MP3 players
 
 
 Hi!
 
 Since there's been a little talk on this list about the iPod Touch 4th 
 Generation, I thought I'd post this review, its a damn good read in my 
 opinion.
 
 http://www.cnet.com.au/apple-ipod-touch-4th-generation-339305724.htm
 
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Re: book tapes

2012-03-18 Thread Dane Trethowan
I don't recall saying anything about spending money smile however I will say 
that I live by a wonderful word in my life, that word is Convenience!, why 
put yourself out to put all this stuff onto your computer when its already been 
done and possibly at a higher quality and with better facilities that you could 
ever obtain? Certainly a fact if you're not willing to spend any money smile.


On 19/03/2012, at 3:15 AM, Holger Fiallo wrote:

 I do not want to spent money. I have a big collection.
 
 -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
 Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 4:29 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: book tapes
 
 Okay first thing which may save you a whole heap of time, have you had a look 
 around to see if the books you have are available in other formats such as on 
 CD, Daisy and so forth? I know that a lot of the old RNIB books for example 
 have been taken from their master tapes and made available in Daisy format.
 
 
 On 18/03/2012, at 3:27 PM, Holger Fiallo wrote:
 
 Hello.
 I have many audio books and music on tapes (cassettes) Would like to put 
 them in my PC. Which program will help me do so and work with jaws 13. Using 
 window seven home 64 and jaws 13.
 
 Holger Fiallo
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Re: book tapes

2012-03-18 Thread Holger Fiallo
what about which program? Do not want to get into discussion about money for 
CDs or MP3.


-Original Message- 
From: Dane Trethowan

Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 12:01 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: book tapes

I don't recall saying anything about spending money smile however I will 
say that I live by a wonderful word in my life, that word is Convenience!, 
why put yourself out to put all this stuff onto your computer when its 
already been done and possibly at a higher quality and with better 
facilities that you could ever obtain? Certainly a fact if you're not 
willing to spend any money smile.



On 19/03/2012, at 3:15 AM, Holger Fiallo wrote:


I do not want to spent money. I have a big collection.

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 4:29 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: book tapes

Okay first thing which may save you a whole heap of time, have you had a 
look around to see if the books you have are available in other formats 
such as on CD, Daisy and so forth? I know that a lot of the old RNIB books 
for example have been taken from their master tapes and made available in 
Daisy format.



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Hello.
I have many audio books and music on tapes (cassettes) Would like to put 
them in my PC. Which program will help me do so and work with jaws 13. 
Using window seven home 64 and jaws 13.


Holger Fiallo
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Re: book tapes

2012-03-18 Thread Sunshine
you could use mp3 direct cut, goldwave to place the tapes on the computer.

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From: Holger Fiallo holgerfia...@comcast.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: book tapes


what about which program? Do not want to get into discussion about money for
CDs or MP3.

-Original Message- 
From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 12:01 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: book tapes

I don't recall saying anything about spending money smile however I will
say that I live by a wonderful word in my life, that word is Convenience!,
why put yourself out to put all this stuff onto your computer when its
already been done and possibly at a higher quality and with better
facilities that you could ever obtain? Certainly a fact if you're not
willing to spend any money smile.


On 19/03/2012, at 3:15 AM, Holger Fiallo wrote:

 I do not want to spent money. I have a big collection.

 -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
 Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 4:29 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: book tapes

 Okay first thing which may save you a whole heap of time, have you had a
 look around to see if the books you have are available in other formats
 such as on CD, Daisy and so forth? I know that a lot of the old RNIB books
 for example have been taken from their master tapes and made available in
 Daisy format.


 On 18/03/2012, at 3:27 PM, Holger Fiallo wrote:

 Hello.
 I have many audio books and music on tapes (cassettes) Would like to put
 them in my PC. Which program will help me do so and work with jaws 13.
 Using window seven home 64 and jaws 13.

 Holger Fiallo
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Re: book tapes

2012-03-18 Thread Robert Nelson


Audacity works well with Jaws and is free.  However, if you are new to audio 
editing, it would be a bit difficult to learn.


Goldwave works well with Jaws and has a quite modest price tag.  Goldwave is 
also relatively easy to learn.


Sound Forge is functionally the best but is expensive to purchase.  It is 
not difficult to learn and it will work with Jaws, as long as you purchase 
Jim Snowbarger's scripts.


There is a lot more information I can give you, but rather than waste space 
on this mailing list, please e-mail me at-

rsnel...@optusnet.com.au

Robert Nelson

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From: Holger Fiallo holgerfia...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 2:16 AM
Subject: Re: book tapes



which sound program works well with jaws?

-Original Message- 
From: Robert Nelson

Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 4:26 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: book tapes


Holger,

What you want to do is straightforward enough.

You will need-
 a.. A sound card with a stereo line input.  A second sound card would 
make life simpler, by allowing you to route the screen reader speech to 
the sound card that is NOT handling the recording input (thereby making 
sure that you don't get screen reader speech in your recording);
 b.. A stereo cassette deck and a patch cord to connect the deck to the 
input of the sound card (I know that some people on the list will argue 
with this, but 4 track books are just stereo recordings with the tracks 
assigned differently);
 c.. An audio editing program, such as Sound Forge, Goldwave or audacity. 
A very useful feature you should look for in the audio editor is the 
function to reverse the playback of sound.  That is to say, if a track is 
playing backwards, the function will reverse it so that it plays forwards 
in the normal intelligible way;
 d.. And the most important thing you will need is time and patience 
because, even if you record 4 track books in stereo at  one and 
seven-eighths inches per second (twice the 4 track book speed), it will 
still be a time consuming process.


Over the last 15 years I have converted hundreds of 4 track recordings of 
lectures and seminars.  The process is a little complicated so I won't 
waste space describing it here.


If you would like to know how to edit 4 track books then please e-mail me 
directly at-

rsnel...@optusnet.com.au

Robert Nelson

- Original Message - 
From: Holger Fiallo holgerfia...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 2:27 PM
Subject: book tapes



Hello.
I have many audio books and music on tapes (cassettes) Would like to put 
them in my PC. Which program will help me do so and work with jaws 13. 
Using window seven home 64 and jaws 13.


Holger Fiallo
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shutting of the information bar in ie nine

2012-03-18 Thread dan thompson
Does anyone know how to shut off the information bar that likes to suddenly 
come up in IE nine?  I would greatly love any help in achieving this task. 
Thanks in advance!

Dan Thompson
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shutting off the information bar in internet explorer nine question

2012-03-18 Thread dan thompson
Does anyone know how to shut off the information bar that likes to suddenly 
come up in IE nine?  I would greatly love any help in achieving this task. 
Thanks in advance!


Dan Thompson
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