Re: Future Of The PC Audio List
Hi all, I did receive one bounce message last night, but after replying to the confirmation I was able to receive messages again. Can't really tell you where to move to. I tried Freelists but what put me off was the admin interface. I was fiddling about with members and ended up unsubscribing myself. After that I no longer had access to the admin interface. This isn't the case with Mailman. So I prefer Mailman over Freelists. But it's your list so do what's right for you. On 02/12/2014 22:27, Tom wrote: Ladies and gentlemen, The hosting for the pc audio list and the domain name will expire at the end of December. The list software has been problematic for over a year. Not sending messages to some people, not allowing some people to send messages to the list, bouncing messages to valid e-mail addresses, a lot of trash etc. I'm considering taking the list to free lists. I don't mind paying for the domain name and hosting of the list but the support just has not been very good. I'm open to thoughts and opinions. t...@pc-audio.org Thank you. Tom Dimeo
RE: Future Of The PC Audio List
I agree. No Google, please! As long as Google only claims to be accessible, which I haven't tried, with Google Chrome, I'm using it as little as possible. Take care, Alexandra -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of goshawk on horseback Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 3:29 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Future Of The PC Audio List yes, googlegroups has become more or less completely inaccessible for screenreader users, and it is extremely annoying. I run a group there, and doing any moderating has become just about impossible, but at the same time, for the same reasons, I can't get to anything which would give me any of the info I need to look at moving that group to a more accessible platform either. Simon - Original Message - From: Charles Krugman ckrug...@sbcglobal.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 12:18 AM Subject: Re: Future Of The PC Audio List Did Google groups get their accessibility issues resolved? I thought that at one point there were challenges for screen reader users who were moderatinhg or establishing groups using Googlegroups. Chuck -Original Message- From: Nick Giannak Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 2:55 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Future Of The PC Audio List Honestly, Tom? I actually think it has something to do with your reliance on Ultrahost more than anything else. I'd be more apt to have you host your list's email somewhere else, before resorting to Freelists. The domain is too good to waste as such. I can host pC-Audio on my DreamHost hosting plan, as i have unlimited domains and unlimited...well, everything. I won't charge you, and we can see how you like it that way. Alternatively, subscribe to Google Apps pro, host your domain there and use Google Groups on said domain, and have rock solid lists for as long as you like. But please...no freelists. On 12/2/2014 5:27 PM, Tom wrote: Ladies and gentlemen, The hosting for the pc audio list and the domain name will expire at the end of December. The list software has been problematic for over a year. Not sending messages to some people, not allowing some people to send messages to the list, bouncing messages to valid e-mail addresses, a lot of trash etc. I'm considering taking the list to free lists. I don't mind paying for the domain name and hosting of the list but the support just has not been very good. I'm open to thoughts and opinions. t...@pc-audio.org Thank you. Tom Dimeo
Re: Future Of The PC Audio List
Hi ton, I have little or no experience of list management software, but what I do have experience of, is the value of this list to me, and other members I am sure. So whatever you do, wherever you take the list, thanks for what you do. Joe On Tue, 2 Dec 2014 17:27:23 -0500 Tom t...@pc-audio.org wrote: Ladies and gentlemen, The hosting for the pc audio list and the domain name will expire at the end of December. The list software has been problematic for over a year. Not sending messages to some people, not allowing some people to send messages to the list, bouncing messages to valid e-mail addresses, a lot of trash etc. I'm considering taking the list to free lists. I don't mind paying for the domain name and hosting of the list but the support just has not been very good. I'm open to thoughts and opinions. t...@pc-audio.org Thank you. Tom Dimeo -- Joe Paton j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk
Re: Future Of The PC Audio List
Mailman is much better, let us know if you can't find a hosting provider, I know of some private ones. Alexandra Grünauer al.gruena...@gmx.de wrote: I agree. No Google, please! As long as Google only claims to be accessible, which I haven't tried, with Google Chrome, I'm using it as little as possible. Take care, Alexandra -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of goshawk on horseback Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 3:29 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Future Of The PC Audio List yes, googlegroups has become more or less completely inaccessible for screenreader users, and it is extremely annoying. I run a group there, and doing any moderating has become just about impossible, but at the same time, for the same reasons, I can't get to anything which would give me any of the info I need to look at moving that group to a more accessible platform either. Simon - Original Message - From: Charles Krugman ckrug...@sbcglobal.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 12:18 AM Subject: Re: Future Of The PC Audio List Did Google groups get their accessibility issues resolved? I thought that at one point there were challenges for screen reader users who were moderatinhg or establishing groups using Googlegroups. Chuck -Original Message- From: Nick Giannak Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 2:55 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Future Of The PC Audio List Honestly, Tom? I actually think it has something to do with your reliance on Ultrahost more than anything else. I'd be more apt to have you host your list's email somewhere else, before resorting to Freelists. The domain is too good to waste as such. I can host pC-Audio on my DreamHost hosting plan, as i have unlimited domains and unlimited...well, everything. I won't charge you, and we can see how you like it that way. Alternatively, subscribe to Google Apps pro, host your domain there and use Google Groups on said domain, and have rock solid lists for as long as you like. But please...no freelists. On 12/2/2014 5:27 PM, Tom wrote: Ladies and gentlemen, The hosting for the pc audio list and the domain name will expire at the end of December. The list software has been problematic for over a year. Not sending messages to some people, not allowing some people to send messages to the list, bouncing messages to valid e-mail addresses, a lot of trash etc. I'm considering taking the list to free lists. I don't mind paying for the domain name and hosting of the list but the support just has not been very good. I'm open to thoughts and opinions. t...@pc-audio.org Thank you. Tom Dimeo -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
SV: Future Of The PC Audio List
Hi Tom, This list really is of great value, so just do, what you think will be the best for this list to stay online. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Tom Sendt: 2. december 2014 23:27 Til: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Emne: Future Of The PC Audio List Ladies and gentlemen, The hosting for the pc audio list and the domain name will expire at the end of December. The list software has been problematic for over a year. Not sending messages to some people, not allowing some people to send messages to the list, bouncing messages to valid e-mail addresses, a lot of trash etc. I'm considering taking the list to free lists. I don't mind paying for the domain name and hosting of the list but the support just has not been very good. I'm open to thoughts and opinions. t...@pc-audio.org Thank you. Tom Dimeo
RE: Need to makeup some cds.
Brilliant instructions. Thank you so much. Really useful Johny Cassidy Producer BBC Business Economics New Broadcasting House London W1A 1AA TEL: 0203 6142555 TWITTER: https://twitter.com/johnycassidy -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mike Bernard Sent: 02 December 2014 17:24 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Need to makeup some cds. Good morning Carlis, Its quite simple actually. All you have to do is the following: 1. Insert a blank cdr disk into the cd/dvd drive of your computer. If you get a message that asks you what you want the computer to do, just press alt f 4 to close this window. 2. Now start up windows explorer by pressing windows key and the letter E. Once open, arrow up and down through the list of drives and folders until you find the folder where your mp3 files are located and press tab to open it. 3. select everything in that folder by pressing control A then press control c to copy them to the clipboard. 4. Press shift-tab to close this window and arrow down to the burner drive, and press tab to open that drive. 5. Now, press control V to paste everything in. 6. Press the applications key to bring up the context menu and press T. This will bring up the burn wizard. You'll be asked to name the cd. The default name will be the current date unless you decide to give the cd a different name. 7. Then tab to the next button and press it. 8. A new window will come up asking you if you want to make an audio cd, or a data cd. Windows Media Player is normally set to audio cd by default. If it isn't, then use your arrow keys to navigate to the audio cd option. Then press tab until you get to next and press enter or press spacebar. 9. At this point, Windows media player itself will open. 10. The easiest way to get to the start burn button, is to shift tab 9 times. Once you find the burn button, press spacebar and wait. Do not do anything until you hear the cd drive's moter stop and the cd ejects. Once the cd is done burning, you can press alt f 4 to close Windows Media Player. You should then see an icon on your screen called audio cd E or something similar. Once you find this icon, press the applications key again and press F. You will then see a message that asks you to confirm that you want to remove the files from the temporary area where they had been placed prior to burning the cd. Either tab to the yes button or press alt Y. This will clear the burn list. Now your cd is ready for your friend to play in his cd player, just like a store-bought cd. Hope this helps. Hope you have a nice Christmas and Happy New Year. Mike Rochester, NY. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Carliss Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 7:45 AM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: Need to makeup some cds. Listers, Please help me burn some cds. there a brother in the churdch that I atend he's on a walker and he heard some of my christian music and would like to have some, which I don't mind doing. however, all my music is in MP3 format and its been a very long time since I burned cds with windows media player or the other tools in windows7, so, please if you will, give me a quicky lesson? If I remember right, windows media player would change the format to where it may be played on any michine? Thanks to all! Carlisss
Re: Future Of The PC Audio List
As long as it remains an email-based system and doesn't require one to visit a web site all the time, I'll be happy where-ever it is. I'd also mention Groups.IO (www.groups.io) as an alternative provider; it's new, and run by an former Yahoo engineer (who left before the current management of Yahoo decided to break everything). -- rgds LAurence
Re: Future Of The PC Audio List
Google groups is fine for email subscribers. Their web interface is pretty ghastly though; I don't know what it's like to run a group there. As you didn't say, I take it you've alreday dismissed Yahoo groups? If you haven't, do. -- rgds LAurence
Re: Future Of The PC Audio List
Yes, I won’ continue to be a member if it goes to a place where you need to read on a web site. That makes it very difficult. From: Laurence Taylor Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 3:16 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Future Of The PC Audio List As long as it remains an email-based system and doesn't require one to visit a web site all the time, I'll be happy where-ever it is. I'd also mention Groups.IO (www.groups.io) as an alternative provider; it's new, and run by an former Yahoo engineer (who left before the current management of Yahoo decided to break everything). -- rgds LAurence
RE: Future Of The PC Audio List
Yep...that's kind of where I am; as I said last night, as long as I can get to it from Outlook 2013 and don't have to be visiting a website, I'll be there! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Laurence Taylor Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 11:17 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Future Of The PC Audio List As long as it remains an email-based system and doesn't require one to visit a web site all the time, I'll be happy where-ever it is. I'd also mention Groups.IO (www.groups.io) as an alternative provider; it's new, and run by an former Yahoo engineer (who left before the current management of Yahoo decided to break everything). -- rgds LAurence
Re: Future Of The PC Audio List
That is truly unfortunate. I am on other freelists lists which work ok, though I don't know the behind-the-scenes conditions of the running of them, etc. -- Curtis Delzer curtis1...@verizon.net On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 17:27:23 -0500 Tom t...@pc-audio.org wrote: Ladies and gentlemen, The hosting for the pc audio list and the domain name will expire at the end of December. The list software has been problematic for over a year. Not sending messages to some people, not allowing some people to send messages to the list, bouncing messages to valid e-mail addresses, a lot of trash etc. I'm considering taking the list to free lists. I don't mind paying for the domain name and hosting of the list but the support just has not been very good. I'm open to thoughts and opinions. t...@pc-audio.org Thank you. Tom Dimeo
Re: Future Of The PC Audio List
Please not google or yahoo groups. They sucks. On 03/12/2014, Curtis Delzer curtis1...@verizon.net wrote: That is truly unfortunate. I am on other freelists lists which work ok, though I don't know the behind-the-scenes conditions of the running of them, etc. -- Curtis Delzer curtis1...@verizon.net On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 17:27:23 -0500 Tom t...@pc-audio.org wrote: Ladies and gentlemen, The hosting for the pc audio list and the domain name will expire at the end of December. The list software has been problematic for over a year. Not sending messages to some people, not allowing some people to send messages to the list, bouncing messages to valid e-mail addresses, a lot of trash etc. I'm considering taking the list to free lists. I don't mind paying for the domain name and hosting of the list but the support just has not been very good. I'm open to thoughts and opinions. t...@pc-audio.org Thank you. Tom Dimeo -- Facebook: m.facebook.com/aidan.maher92 Skype: andries4451 Twitter: smarttalk7 Audioboo: www.audioboo.com/DjSpotlight
Re: Future Of The PC Audio List
I have a group on Yahoogroups as well with the same accessible but clunky interface. On 03/12/2014 18:37, Aidan wrote: Please not google or yahoo groups. They sucks. On 03/12/2014, Curtis Delzer curtis1...@verizon.net wrote: That is truly unfortunate. I am on other freelists lists which work ok, though I don't know the behind-the-scenes conditions of the running of them, etc. -- Curtis Delzer curtis1...@verizon.net On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 17:27:23 -0500 Tom t...@pc-audio.org wrote: Ladies and gentlemen, The hosting for the pc audio list and the domain name will expire at the end of December. The list software has been problematic for over a year. Not sending messages to some people, not allowing some people to send messages to the list, bouncing messages to valid e-mail addresses, a lot of trash etc. I'm considering taking the list to free lists. I don't mind paying for the domain name and hosting of the list but the support just has not been very good. I'm open to thoughts and opinions. t...@pc-audio.org Thank you. Tom Dimeo
Re: Future Of The PC Audio List
I've ran groups on Yahoogroups using the old format and I understand that the new web-based format is very confusing even for sighted people. I haven't had a group there for a while. Chuck -Original Message- From: Laurence Taylor Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2014 8:27 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Future Of The PC Audio List Google groups is fine for email subscribers. Their web interface is pretty ghastly though; I don't know what it's like to run a group there. As you didn't say, I take it you've alreday dismissed Yahoo groups? If you haven't, do. -- rgds LAurence
