Re: Winamp playlist editor question

[Gary G Schindler]

John, I guess your telling me to close the main window? I shall try that.

- Original Message - 
From: "DJ DOCTOR P" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: Winamp playlist editor question



High Garry,
If you're using the classic skins, you shouldn't have any problem changing 
tracks around.
But also, make sure that the play list editor window is the only window 
that's open.
If there are other windows open, you will run in to some Winamp control 
problems using JFW.

My best regards.
 John.
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From: "Gary Schindler" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: Winamp playlist editor question



I thought I was using the classic skin. I shall have to check that.
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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: Winamp playlist editor question



Hello Garry,
What type of skins are you using?
 John.
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From: "Gary Schindler" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 10:55 AM
Subject: Winamp playlist editor question


How do I select entries in the winamp playlist editor and manipulate 
them I am using jaws for windows version 1.0.1430. and wimamp 5.58.


the keyboard shortcuts ALT+down arrow and ALT+up arrow combos don't work 
any more in fact none of the keystrokes don't seem to work any more. I 
tried using the jaws pass key (insert +3) and that doesn't seem to work 
either. I am stumped.



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Re: Best portable mike mixer out there?

[Gary G Schindler]

I was going to tell you the same thing, portable yesterday and today are two 
different things. I used to have some Bogan and Duquesne mixers that were the size 
of portable televisions, and they were mono. they were 90 watts. I don't think the 
young lady wants to tote anything like that.



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From: "DJ DOCTOR P" 

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Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: Best portable mike mixer out there?



High Garry,
That is not really true.
In the 1950's and 60's, some of them had to be portable.
Sometimes, a PA system had to be sat up to address a small gathering of people.
Like for instants, in schools sometimes in the class rooms.
And also, some radio stations had to use them for remote broadcasting.
But the amplifiers in them, put out no more then 20 to 70 watts of power.
But that was just the mono mottles.
The stereo mottles, had jacks on them that allowed you to hook up turntables and 
open real tape recorders.

They put out a minimum of 70 to a maximum of 100 watts per channel.
So you see, they had to be portable so that they could be carried from one place 
to another.

However, the higher powered ones, weren't light wait.
And the kinds of tubes that they used were either 7581's or 6550's.
Some of them, used either 6P35's or 6CA7's.
These were the kinds of power tubes they used.
They all used either ECC83's or 12AX7's for preamp tubes.
Some of them, used tubes like the 6DJ8 which is being called, the 6922 tube 
today.

They also used the ECC99 which is being called, the 12BF7 tube today.
There were some which are now being dubbed as odd tubes today being used in the 
preamps of those mixers.

Tubes like the 6AU6 which is not being made anymore, and the EF86 tube.
Personally, I don't see how could some of those PA systems could be called 
portable.

I say this because, some of them are as big as 19 to 25 inch TV sets.
My best regards.
 John.
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From: "Gary Schindler" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 3:29 AM
Subject: Re: Best portable mike mixer out there?


I agree with you. usually solid state mixers sound cold compared to the tube 
predecessors. if you had a vacuum tube mixer it wouldn't be portable anyway.
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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: Best portable mike mixer out there?



High Garry,
I've been fooling around with audio equipment since I was 5 years old.
I've seen and heard it all.
Nothing sounds like a vacuum tube except a real live vacuum tube.
The simulators don't come close to it.
My best regards.
 John.
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From: "Gary Schindler" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: Best portable mike mixer out there?


not for that price, they just simulate the British EQ effects. I personally 
would opt for the optional battery powered one.


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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: Best portable mike mixer out there?



High Tom,
Are you saying, some of these mixers have vacuum tubes in them?
 John.
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From: "Tom" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: Best portable mike mixer out there?


Kathy,

Here's a few mixers that might meet your needs.

Behringer XENYX-502
5 Input 2 Bus Mixer w/EQ
Behringer XENYX-502 5 Input 2 Bus Mixer w/EQ
Small, Affordable and Great Sounding! The new 2-Bus XENYX 502
has 5 inputs and main mix, stereo CD/tape plus separate
headphone outputs, and boasts the new XENYX Mic Preamp, which
matches the sound quality, transparency, headroom and dynamic
range of a boutique-styled, standalone mic preamp. Featuring
a neo-classic "British-Style" 2- band EQ, which gives the
warmth and musicality of those '60s and '70s mega-console
desks, the XENYX 502 offers assignable CD/tape inputs for
routing flexibility, and comes in an ultra low-noise, high
headroom design.
Main Features:
. Premium ultra low-noise, high headroom analog mixer
. State-of-the-art XENYX Mic Preamp comparable to stand-alone
boutique preamps (no 48V phantom power on the XENYX 502)
. Neo-classic "British" 2-band EQ for warm and musical sound
. Main mix, stereo CD/tape plus separate headphone outputs
. CD/tape inputs assignable to headphone output or main mix
outputs
. High-quality components and exceptionally rugged
construction ensure long life
$44.99

Behringer XENYX-802
8 Input 2 Bus Mixer w/EQ
Behringer XENYX-802 8 Input 2 Bus Mixer w/EQ
Small, Affordable and Great Sounding! The new 2-Bus XENYX 802
has 8 inputs and an FX Send control for each channel, and
boasts 2 XENYX Mic Preamps, which match the sound quality,
transparency, headroom and dynamic range of boutique-styled,
standalone mic preamps. Featuring a neo-classic
"British-Style" 3- band EQ, which gives the warmth and
musicality of tho

Re: shortwave radio

[Gary G Schindler]

thanks for the clarification Adrian.

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From: "Adrian Spratt" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 10:56 PM
Subject: Re: shortwave radio


Hi, Gary. I believe Bob Crane is the company's owner. He's certainly the 
spokesperson. The guy who produces the cassettes is named Tim and, last I 
heard, he lived in Alabama, though his accent was hardly from there. His 
last name still escapes me.


Tom, list owner, I'm surely testing your patience, so I'll stop here!
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From: "Gary Schindler" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 10:35 PM
Subject: Re: shortwave radio

I seem to think the guy who does the cassettes for C Crane is Bob.

I live in a valley here, and it doesn't matter what radio you have, 
reception stinks, whether it be the Sangean ATS909, 918 or the Sony ICF-236, 
whatever.


for the most part, C Crane sells the best of the best, so whom ever can't go 
wrong whith whatever radio they buy.


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From: "Adrian Spratt" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: shortwave radio

A nice consideration about Pam's C Crane/Sangean 909 suggestion is that C 
Crane provides cassette directions for many of its products, probably 
including the 909. You must request it, but the cassette is free. I know C 
Crane sells Sangean products. I don't believe they offer the other brands 
you mention here, and they certainly don't promote them the way they do 
Sangean. The man who does these cassettes does an excellent job, and I'm 
sorry that his name escapes me as I write.


Since you rightly bring up price, it is worth subscribing to C Crane's email 
notifications because they have periodic sales and also sell what they call 
"orphans" at a discount.


No, I'm not an employee. I'm just a very satisfied customer. Sadly for me, 
no shortwave radio works well here in my section of Brooklyn. I've tried a 
couple of C Crane's shortwave radios, but have had to return them for the 
full refund they promise within thirty days.

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From: "Gary Schindler" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: shortwave radio

the ATS909 radio is made by Sangean actually, and I don't know for sure if 
they make that model any more.


you can look at Sony and Kaido models too, which are more affordable and 
work just as well.


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From: "Pam Walters" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: shortwave radio

Hi, I would recommend the ats909 from ccrane. Pam
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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:02 PM
Subject: shortwave radio

Could someone please recommend a good shortwave radio that I can purchase? 
Thanks. 



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Re: Sound Forge Versions/names; what they should cost approximately; and which version should I get that is the most accessible(version8,9, or 10)

[Gary G Schindler]

I thought depoper was much to slow. I didn't care for it at all.

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From: "Matthew Bullis" 

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Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: Sound Forge Versions/names; what they should cost approximately;and 
which version should I get that is the most accessible(version8,9, or 10)



Perhaps you could get the $35 version of Sound Forge to put the records onto the 
hard disc in .wav file format, and then try out Depopper from

www.depopper.com
for 30 days. If you like the results of Depopper as I do, you could buy that for 
just under $20. I've enjoyed Depopper for eight years now.

Thanks a lot.
Matthew

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Re: Sound Forge Versions/names; what they should cost approximately; and which version should I get that is the most accessible(version8,9, or 10)

[Gary G Schindler]

I used to use it on an older computer.

it is pretty strait forward. as an editor it has lots to be desired, but it cleans 
up vinyl quite well.


- Original Message - 
From: "Victoria Vaughan" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: Sound Forge Versions/names; what they should cost approximately;and 
which version should I get that is the most accessible(version8,9, or 10)



Wow! Thanks a lot.  I'll check it out.  Do you use it?  Do you have any tips on 
using it?


Many thanks again! Vicky
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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: Sound Forge Versions/names; what they should cost approximately; 
and which version should I get that is the most accessible (version8,9, or 10)




Vicki, if you just want to restore records, go to
http://www.tracertek.com/
where you will find DC-7 which will allow you to get rid of clicks, pops and 
other noises. the full sound forge with the noise reduction bundle is quite 
expensive.


I used to take a noise sample with goldewave and clean it up with diamond cut. 
it is betterr to be set bak $100.00 instead of the $300.00 for the sound forge.




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Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: Sound Forge Versions/names; what they should cost 
approximately;and which version should I get that is the most accessible 
(version8,9, or 10)




Ah, well, too bad.  Would have been nice.

Vicky
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From: "Gary G Schindler" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: Sound Forge Versions/names; what they should cost approximately; 
and which version should I get that is the most accessible (version8, 9, or 
10)




hno it won't.

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From: "Victoria Vaughan" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: Sound Forge Versions/names; what they should cost 
approximately;and which version should I get that is the most accessible 
(version8, 9, or 10)



Does anyone know if Sound Forge Studio version, now on Amazon, for $35, will 
take out hissing and clicks or pops?  I want to digitalize my LPs and 
cassettes.


Many thanks,, Vicky
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From: "Tim Noonan" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 6:33 PM
Subject: RE: Sound Forge Versions/names; what they should cost 
approximately; and which version should I get that is the most accessible 
(version 8, 9, or 10)



Jim S's website says he has support (perhaps limited) for Sound Forge 
Studio

9, as well as the full Sound Forge.

The development of his scripts for Sound Forge 10 is coming along well, and
I find that it is a more responsive application than Sound Forge 9.

In the old days, the Sound Forge Studio version didn't provide the
(incredibly useful) presets for effects etc, which would severely diminish
the ease and efficiency of its use.

HTH
Tim

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On Behalf Of Ray
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 11:35 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Sound Forge Versions/names; what they should cost
approximately;and which version should I get that is the most accessible
(version 8, 9, or 10)

I would have thought you'd only be offered Sound Forge 10, and maybe 9 for 
a

time now.

The cheaper package is Sony Sound Studio, or some such name like that, and
sells for the price you mention.  It's a cut down version of Sound Forge of
course, but does much of what S F does only limited to stereo recording.

Far as I know there aren't scripts for Sound Studio like there are for 
Sound

Forge.

Ray

JardataMailServices wrote:
Hello List!

When looking to purchase Sound Forge, I looked on Amazon and saw a product
called "Sound Forge Audio Studio 9" for a price of $69.99.  What is the
actual
Sound Forge Version names (version 8 and 9 and now 10 seem to be 
available).

I was thinking that Sound Forge (the full regular version) cost around $300
or
so.  What should I look for when trying to get a full version.  Also, 
should

I
be purchasing versions 8, 9, or 10?

James Robinson
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Re: Sound Forge Versions/names; what they should cost approximately; and which version should I get that is the most accessible (version8, 9, or 10)

[Gary G Schindler]

hno it won't.

- Original Message - 
From: "Victoria Vaughan" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: Sound Forge Versions/names; what they should cost approximately;and 
which version should I get that is the most accessible (version8, 9, or 10)



Does anyone know if Sound Forge Studio version, now on Amazon, for $35, will 
take out hissing and clicks or pops?  I want to digitalize my LPs and cassettes.


Many thanks,, Vicky
- Original Message - 
From: "Tim Noonan" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 6:33 PM
Subject: RE: Sound Forge Versions/names; what they should cost approximately; 
and which version should I get that is the most accessible (version 8, 9, or 10)




Jim S's website says he has support (perhaps limited) for Sound Forge Studio
9, as well as the full Sound Forge.

The development of his scripts for Sound Forge 10 is coming along well, and
I find that it is a more responsive application than Sound Forge 9.

In the old days, the Sound Forge Studio version didn't provide the
(incredibly useful) presets for effects etc, which would severely diminish
the ease and efficiency of its use.

HTH
Tim

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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Ray
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 11:35 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Sound Forge Versions/names; what they should cost
approximately;and which version should I get that is the most accessible
(version 8, 9, or 10)

I would have thought you'd only be offered Sound Forge 10, and maybe 9 for a
time now.

The cheaper package is Sony Sound Studio, or some such name like that, and
sells for the price you mention.  It's a cut down version of Sound Forge of
course, but does much of what S F does only limited to stereo recording.

Far as I know there aren't scripts for Sound Studio like there are for Sound
Forge.

Ray

JardataMailServices wrote:
Hello List!

When looking to purchase Sound Forge, I looked on Amazon and saw a product
called "Sound Forge Audio Studio 9" for a price of $69.99.  What is the
actual
Sound Forge Version names (version 8 and 9 and now 10 seem to be available).
I was thinking that Sound Forge (the full regular version) cost around $300
or
so.  What should I look for when trying to get a full version.  Also, should
I
be purchasing versions 8, 9, or 10?

James Robinson
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Re: Digital recorders again.

[Gary G Schindler]

How do you do line in recordingd with the DS-71 since it is a voice recorder. you 
can't compare the Olympus recorders in the same class as the Edirol or Plextalk 
pocket.


- Original Message - 
From: "G-Dog" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again.



Agreed!

accessability is a very important factor but it doesn't equate to
performance.
I use the olympus DS-71 which does an excellent job for both mike and line
in recordings.
Yes, you can monitor through headphones.
I also like the fact that it uses AAA batteries that makes it easy to swap
them out if needed.

I hear the Edital R9 is also a nifty unit

G-Doggy-dog!
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From: "Bruce Toews" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again.


That statement should probably be qualified: It may well be the most
excellent recording device in its class on the market, I couldn't say
but have no reason to believe otherwise, but there are better recording
devices on the market. Sweeping statements are dangerous.

Bruce


On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:56:11 -0500, "Sunshine" 
said:

I totally agree with you Dean, the plextalk pocket is the most exclent
recording device on the market these days.

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From: "dean martineau" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:36 PM
Subject: RE: Digital recorders again.


What I know is that the PlexTalk Pocket is totally accessible, nicely
packaged, has both manual and automatic level control, and does a very
nice
job of recording from the line injack.  I doubt any other digital
recorder
provides as much feedback, as this one is made for the blind.  Of course,
it
may (or may not, I don't know) cost more than others of similar quality,
but
there's no guesswork involved.  It's nice to be able to monitor through
the
speaker when making a line-in recording.

Dean


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On Behalf Of Tim Crawford
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 9:27 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Digital recorders again.

Hi all,

Just wondering, which one of the flash memory based recorders recently
discussed here, would be most suitable for making high quality recordings
from an external source via line-in?  e.g. a satellite receiver.

I don't intend recording via microphone, so that particular aspect of
performance is of limited interest.

Any views much appreciated.

Cheers,

Tim.
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Re: High fidelty and turntables today

[Gary G Schindler]

it has to do with the quality of sound card and the quality of cartridge in the 
turntable. Stanton would be a good quality cartridge, and some type of delta sound 
card with balanced ins and outs would be a good quality setup.


- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 

To: "PC audio discussion list." 
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 3:09 PM
Subject: High fidelty and turntables today


I'm not exactly sure how to ask this, but I'm hoping to get some pointers to 
more information and some advice. My son is asking for a turntable for his 
birthday. I assumed it was to access music he can only find on vinyl, but he 
says it's for higher sound quality than he can get off of CD's or MP3's.


I still have the component based stereo system I built when I was younger, which 
currently includes a receiver, DVD player and DVR. I retired my turntable and 
VCR a while ago. I would not be surprised if such a system, with high quality 
components, could produce better sound than you'd get off of a PC or portable 
media player.


I guess I'm wondering a couple of things. Is this true that you can get better 
sound quality out of a high fidelity system than you can from a PC or portable 
media player? If so, how would you go about building such a system today? Would 
you do what I did years ago and start assembling your components? Could I get 
him a nice turntable that he could hook up to his PC for now and then include in 
a component based stereo system down the road?


Thanks for any advice or pointers people could provide me. I haven't started 
looking around on the web, but I'm assuming I'd be overwhelmed with the amount 
of  information out there on such a topic.


--
Christopher

cchalt...@austin.rr.com


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Re: Questions About Ripping CDs with Goldwave

[Gary G Schindler]

the tracks are given a prefix and go in a destination folder you select. you will 
have to create and place the tracks in there respective folders.
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To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 5:31 PM
Subject: Questions About Ripping CDs with Goldwave



I have goldwave configured the way I want it for CD ripping, except for one
thing.  Is there a way to get each CD to go into a separate folder as it
would with CDex?



Dan



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Re: Updating the VictorStream.

[Gary G Schindler]

Debbie, the update only needs to be put on one card. once the update is finished, 
the stream will reboot and I think might erase the update on the Sd card once the 
stream has been updated. this is not like audible, which has to have the 
authorization on every card you want to put audible books on.
- Original Message - 
From: "Debbie Bugella" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 12:24 PM
Subject: Updating the VictorStream.



Hi:

I have a really stupid question! I no that I must copy the update file onto the 
SD card and put it in and let the stream do its thing, but do I need to put the 
update file on a new card when I switch SD cards? Can I delete the update file 
off the card after the update installs? Because I know with the NLS 
authorization, that needs to be put on each card, right? Thanks, Deb.

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Re: eliminating hum?

[Gary G Schindler]

Buy better shielded cable.
- Original Message - 
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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 10:50 PM
Subject: eliminating hum?



Hello all.

I am running a simple patch cord from a y-cord plugged in to the output of 
my sound card over to a cord which splits to two male r c a plugs which are 
in turn connected to my stereo amplifier. For some reason this is 
introducing a low level hum both in the stereo speakers and the speakers 
connected to the other half of the y-cord from the sound card. Does anyone 
know of any way to eliminate the hum?


Thanks.



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Re: Is there an accessible MP3 player that works with Rhapsody?

[Gary G Schindler]

I think Rhapsody is basically for real audio files!

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Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: Is there an accessible MP3 player that works with Rhapsody?



I had a problem getting jaws to interact with rhapsody.

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Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 12:54 PM
Subject: Is there an accessible MP3 player that works with Rhapsody?


Greetings list:

I teach a music appreciation class at a local community college. In the fall
of this year, I am switching to a new textbook, The Musical Experience by
John Chiego. Every instructor of the class receives a year of Rhapsody to Go
which allows one to transfer songs from Rhapsody to a supported MP3 player.
Each chapter of the text has an accompanying playlist. I am familiar with
using Rhapsody and have no trouble there. I have also been playing with
Applian Technology's Replay Media Catcher program to grab the playlists and
convert them to MP3 files. Applian says this is legal, but I have to wonder
if Rhapsody would be thrilled. I will use Media Catcher if I have no other
option, but an MP3 player with attached speakers would be preferable to CDs
and a boom box anyway. Does anyone have any experience with any of the MP3
players supported by Rhapsody? Any help would be appreciated.

Jamie Pauls, MT-BC
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Re: net books with jaws.

[Gary G Schindler]

I believe the internal card reader is on the lower left edge more toward the front 
of the computer.
- Original Message - 
From: "Jim" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 5:59 AM
Subject: Re: net books with jaws.


I just bought one of the new Acer 1 computers.
Pretty cool so far.  I'm having no trouble using the keyboard and once I got
around the whole loading of JAWS, things went great.
The only thing is that I can't seem to find the internal card reader.
Uh, oh.

Anyway, so far...so good.

Jim

- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Alan Smith: psmit...@post.harvard.edu"


To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: net books with jaws.


Can one just plug the netbook into a  usb port replicator and then
just use  regular keyboard; saving the mini-functions for when
traveling?  I use a laptop right now and it's just as if I am using a
desktop pc.  Whenever I travel, I just unplug and go.  If one can do
the same with a netbook and it's lighter and smaller, then all the
better.
Peter

On 2/28/09, Gary Wood  wrote:

If I were to get one of these, I don't think I'd want to get the Dell Mini
9, because the keyboard keys are so small, and since I used to be a typist,
I'm used to average size keys.
- Original Message -
From: "David Tanner" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 1:05 AM
Subject: Re: net books with jaws.


I have used the MSI Wind for 3 months with Jaws 10 and it works great.  I
have also used Jaws 10 with the Samsung NC-10 very successfully.  I would
say that you would be happy using Jaws on either one.  However, after 4
months using a Dell Mini 9 with Jaws 10 I can honestly say that it is very
frustrating because there are a number of keys that you would ordinarilly
use with Jaws that are missing or not where you would expect them to be on
that tiny keyboard.


This message was composed on a MSI Wind netbook.

- Original Message -
From: "Julio" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 6:34 PM
Subject: net books with jaws.


What net book works great with jaws with no problems

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On Behalf Of Ken Buxton
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 2:58 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: The New Netbooks

Hello Larry and anyone who owns an Acer Aspire1 *xp* Does any one know
wether or not I'm running just the *8 gig* sd card?  or do I also have a
hard drive on this baby help would bemuch needed here; Ken B in Toronto
- Original Message -
From: "Larry" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Cc: "GW Micro" 
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: The New Netbooks


Hi Mano. I would echo your thoughts completely. I've had no problems with
our Aser when using it with a screen reader. I too use a full size keyboard
when I can, but that's just personal preference. The Aser keyboard works
fine as well. We use the Netbook for Internet, email and streeaming audio.
No complaints.

Larry


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can listen to for a lifetime. Visit us at www.vinylguycafe.com. We welcome
all of your enquiries by Skype or email. Before sending us your media,
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From: "vemak" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: The New Netbooks



I am using aser netbook, it is very suitable for the blind. I have no
problem with the keyboard,nevertheless i use an external keyboard when at
home.  regards mano
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From: "Gary Wood" 
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:20 AM
Subject: The New Netbooks



Hi All!  I'm wondering if anyone has yet tried using the new netbook
computers.   I hear that they're quite handy to take from room to room,
but again, the keys seem to be a bit smaller, and take a bit of getting
used to.  Has anyone ever tried using one of these animals?

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Re: Seeking information on USB turntables

[Gary G Schindler]

you could certainly do this.

- Original Message - 
From: "Gary Wood" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 2:42 AM
Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables


I could use Soundforge's noise reduction for those!
- Original Message - 
From: "Gary Schindler" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables


I thought the rotary head machines like the dat recorders were better for
recording too, but like so many formats, they came and went. another example
was the digital cassette machines that could play analog tapes also. by the
time I decided to buy one they didn't make them any more. many noise
reduction systems came and went too, like DBX which was one of my favorites,
far superior to Dolby. you could do some real nice mastering, but it never
caught on with the general public for home recording.   companies like Sony
and Philips float things out their but if the equipment isn't marketed
properly or is to complex for the average consumer it won't fly.


- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Seed" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables


Does it really make a difference? After all the CD that you buy is a copy of
the master, and that so called master might yet be a second or third
generation of that same master. When CD's were introduced record companies
simply made copies of inferior quality recordings with out remastering them
with the latest technology in order to make a quick buck.  A good ear should
be able to detect poor audio on CD'S especially those oldies that were never
cleaned up. Mis aligned recording and playback heads really stand out when
playing an inferior CD. I would suggest that when copping vinyl to CD that
you tweek the recording to the best of your ability and go from there. It is
highly unlikely that you will get two people that will agree when it comes
to audio quality. What may sound good to me might sound inferior to you. I
still think that the DAT tape would have been the way to go, but
unfortunately the DAT technology was not accepted by the public, although it
was used quite extensively in the recording and broadcast industry. .
.  .   .
- Original Message - 
From: "Gary Wood" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:11 AM
Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables


Well maybe I'LL have to settle for getting a cassette deck that plugs into
my computer and putting the cassette copy I have on the harddrive, and then
transfer to CD, but a problem with this is that then, it's a second
generation copy, and I hear those aren't as good as a first one!
- Original Message - 
From: "Ray" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:11 PM
Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables


Must say Dave, simply from my impressions of the ION USB turntable I saw,
the build quality didn't seem impressive so I'm inclined to think these
turntables are very basic performers technically.

I'd much sooner go for a Hi Fi turntable with magnetic cartridge and a good
pre-amp.  These cost!

Either that or consider using a company doing vinyl transfer as a paid-for
service.

After all is said though, depends entirely on how critical you are about
sound quality.  I've yet to start transfering my treasured vinyls but I know
it is going to be time-consuming.

Hope these thoughts are of some help.

Ray.
Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote:
In a word, awful.  


-Original Message-
On Behalf Of André van Deventer
Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables

I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be.



-Original Message-
On Behalf Of Ray
Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables

Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in
Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs.  Still we're
talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the
two.

I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff.  I
know here a brand called ION  has seemingly cornered the market in three
seperate units  that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos.  So
I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this
via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go.

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Re: Seeking information on USB turntables

[Gary G Schindler]

do you have an old turntable you could plug in to your sound car with a Preamp? 
this would be better than nothing.


- Original Message - 
From: "Gary Wood" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 2:41 AM
Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables


Thanks, Bob!  Well if I don't get a turntable, maybe I'll just hunt around
for that tape, and get some kind of cassette to PC type of thing.  My
brother was asking because he had the vinyl records.  I want to copy them
for him on CD if I can, but when I do it for myself, I'll put the albums on
MP3 CD's.
- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Seed" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables


Does it really make a difference? After all the CD that you buy is a copy of
the master, and that so called master might yet be a second or third
generation of that same master. When CD's were introduced record companies
simply made copies of inferior quality recordings with out remastering them
with the latest technology in order to make a quick buck.  A good ear should
be able to detect poor audio on CD'S especially those oldies that were never
cleaned up. Mis aligned recording and playback heads really stand out when
playing an inferior CD. I would suggest that when copping vinyl to CD that
you tweek the recording to the best of your ability and go from there. It is
highly unlikely that you will get two people that will agree when it comes
to audio quality. What may sound good to me might sound inferior to you. I
still think that the DAT tape would have been the way to go, but
unfortunately the DAT technology was not accepted by the public, although it
was used quite extensively in the recording and broadcast industry. .
.  .   .
- Original Message - 
From: "Gary Wood" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:11 AM
Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables


Well maybe I'LL have to settle for getting a cassette deck that plugs into
my computer and putting the cassette copy I have on the harddrive, and then
transfer to CD, but a problem with this is that then, it's a second
generation copy, and I hear those aren't as good as a first one!
- Original Message - 
From: "Ray" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:11 PM
Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables


Must say Dave, simply from my impressions of the ION USB turntable I saw,
the build quality didn't seem impressive so I'm inclined to think these
turntables are very basic performers technically.

I'd much sooner go for a Hi Fi turntable with magnetic cartridge and a good
pre-amp.  These cost!

Either that or consider using a company doing vinyl transfer as a paid-for
service.

After all is said though, depends entirely on how critical you are about
sound quality.  I've yet to start transfering my treasured vinyls but I know
it is going to be time-consuming.

Hope these thoughts are of some help.

Ray.
Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote:
In a word, awful.  


-Original Message-
On Behalf Of André van Deventer
Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables

I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be.



-Original Message-
On Behalf Of Ray
Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables

Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in
Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs.  Still we're
talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the
two.

I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff.  I
know here a brand called ION  has seemingly cornered the market in three
seperate units  that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos.  So
I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this
via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go.

Ray.




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Re: Seeking information on USB turntables

[Gary G Schindler]

at is right. you did get a lot of pumping.

- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Toews" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables


Part of the problem with DBX was that if you listened to a DBX-recorded
tape on a non-DBX system, it sounded absolutely horrible.

bruce

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On Sat, 14 Feb 2009, Gary Schindler wrote:


I thought the rotary head machines like the dat recorders were better for
recording too, but like so many formats, they came and went. another example
was the digital cassette machines that could play analog tapes also. by the
time I decided to buy one they didn't make them any more. many noise
reduction systems came and went too, like DBX which was one of my favorites,
far superior to Dolby. you could do some real nice mastering, but it never
caught on with the general public for home recording.   companies like Sony
and Philips float things out their but if the equipment isn't marketed
properly or is to complex for the average consumer it won't fly.


- Original Message - From: "Bob Seed" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables


Does it really make a difference? After all the CD that you buy is a copy of
the master, and that so called master might yet be a second or third
generation of that same master. When CD's were introduced record companies
simply made copies of inferior quality recordings with out remastering them
with the latest technology in order to make a quick buck.  A good ear should
be able to detect poor audio on CD'S especially those oldies that were never
cleaned up. Mis aligned recording and playback heads really stand out when
playing an inferior CD. I would suggest that when copping vinyl to CD that
you tweek the recording to the best of your ability and go from there. It is
highly unlikely that you will get two people that will agree when it comes
to audio quality. What may sound good to me might sound inferior to you. I
still think that the DAT tape would have been the way to go, but
unfortunately the DAT technology was not accepted by the public, although it
was used quite extensively in the recording and broadcast industry. .
.  .   .
- Original Message - From: "Gary Wood" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:11 AM
Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables


Well maybe I'LL have to settle for getting a cassette deck that plugs into
my computer and putting the cassette copy I have on the harddrive, and then
transfer to CD, but a problem with this is that then, it's a second
generation copy, and I hear those aren't as good as a first one!
- Original Message - From: "Ray" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:11 PM
Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables


Must say Dave, simply from my impressions of the ION USB turntable I saw,
the build quality didn't seem impressive so I'm inclined to think these
turntables are very basic performers technically.

I'd much sooner go for a Hi Fi turntable with magnetic cartridge and a good
pre-amp.  These cost!

Either that or consider using a company doing vinyl transfer as a paid-for
service.

After all is said though, depends entirely on how critical you are about
sound quality.  I've yet to start transfering my treasured vinyls but I know
it is going to be time-consuming.

Hope these thoughts are of some help.

Ray.
Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote:
In a word, awful.  


-Original Message-
On Behalf Of André van Deventer
Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables

I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be.



-Original Message-
On Behalf Of Ray
Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables

Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in
Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs.  Still we're
talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the
two.

I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff.  I
know here a brand called ION  has seemingly cornered the market in three
seperate units  that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos.  So
I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this
via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go.

Ray.




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Re: troubleshooting jaws

[Gary G Schindler]

I want to know if he copied anything to the clipboard, for I notice that jaws 
won't always read everything in outlook express when I have done a lot of copying, 
cutting and pasting. I have to unload jaws and reload it again.
- Original Message - 
From: "Timothy" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: troubleshooting jaws



Also, how much ram do you have? and has this problem been occurring for a
while? Or was it a recent development?

- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Alan Smith" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 5:23 PM
Subject: RE: troubleshooting jaws


Hi there,  I'm no expert, but I think you need to provide more details.
Does it quit speaking completely or just stop until you hit say all again?
What are you running and on what system?  Etd.

P

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Bob Seed
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 1:41 PM
To: PC audio discussion list.
Subject: troubleshooting jaws

Hello everyone:
When I am working with jaws it has a tendency to quit speaking even after I
have closed all windows. It will read one or two lines of an email message
then quit. Once I reboot it seems to work fine. I am beginning to think that
perhaps I need more ram. Any solution to this dilemma?

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Re: getting my i so file to burn to an audio cd

[Gary G Schindler]

Casey, bring up Nero Express by choosing it in the applications list. you may have 
to go to where it says hide or show applications! you have to mouse around and 
find where it says something like create a CD from image. once you find this, 
press your left mouse button. once you do this, your customary dialog should come 
up as if you were making a standard cd. you will add the ISO file from where you 
saved it. you will possibly have to brows for it. tab to the next button  then 
burn it like you normally would do a regular disc.


- Original Message - 
From: "Casey" 

To: "PC Audio" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 7:59 PM
Subject: getting my i so file to burn to an audio cd



Hi okay I made the image file.
And I saved it as image.nrg
Now it is in my down loads folder and I open nero express like I was told to do.
And go to my down loads folder and look for it I don/to see it there is only for 
items there and the imate.nrg isn't one of them.
So now then what I am doing incorrectly and what do I have to do to correct so I 
can turn the image.nrg in to an audio cd?


Casey


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Re: creating in i so file with nero express

[Gary G. Schindler]

 you do this by selecting the image recorder. it should be recorder number 
1. this will make an Iso file.




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Re: Printing on CD label

[Gary G Schindler]

You are right!HI walter, 
- Original Message - 
From: "Walter Ramage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 5:31 PM
Subject: RE: Printing on CD label 




Hi Gary.  Clive seems to have said all there was to say about it.  Walter.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: 08 December 2008 01:48
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Printing on CD label


HI Walter, I would like information on the lightscribe program too. thanks.
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From: "Walter Ramage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 11:28 AM
Subject: RE: Printing on CD label



Hi Peter.  On one of my other lists there was a thread about lightscribe
discs.  There is an accessible programme that allows you to use this
facility but I can't remember where it was.  If you are really interested
then I can trawl my deleted items folder and try and find it for you.  I
know though you were asking about printing lables but lightscribe might do
you also.  Walter.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Peter Scanlon
Sent: 07 December 2008 16:02
To: PC audio discussion list.
Subject: Printing on CD label


Some time ago on this or some other list I am on I saw info about a Jaws
script or possibly a MS Word macro to help produce labels on the actual
CD.

Anyone know about this.

Or is there an accessble program for this.

My Cannon printer allows this, but the program is not really accessible.


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Re: information on the plextalk pocket

[Gary G Schindler]

I would like the manual also. If you can, tell me when the recorder will become 
available.
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jim could you send it privately to me please
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Hi:

I can send the manual for the device if that is acceptible to the list.

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Re: DVD plus or minus, MP3 question

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you are safer to get the plus DVD's.  
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Subject: DVD plus or minus, MP3 question



This is not about movies, just MP3s.
My DVD drive is compatible for both plus and minus formats. I want to make a 
surprise gift for a friend of MP3 files on a DVD disc.

When purchasing, I have to choose between the plus or minus format.
My question, do I need to know if the person has plus or minus on there PC, 
or does it matter with mp3s. I am trying to resolve any compatibility 
issues, thank you.




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Re: Burning audio discs

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try to maximize the window and see if you can find the burn button.

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I tried your suggestion, it will not burn.  I do not get the: start burn, in 
the Windows media tabs.  Anything else?? thanks, Don
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Hi Cornell

where exactly on WMP does burning option reside? I cant quite locate it.
Thanks

On 9/30/08, Cornell Ligon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi don,
Open the player, tab over to burn optins and hit audio even if it's 
already

checked. Then try to burn your music disc.

I had this happen a few weeks ago and corrected by doing what I listed
above.
HTH!



Best Regards,
Cornell


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When I try to burn an audio disc, after pasting the files in the 
temporary

folder and opening the wizard, pressing the NEXT space bar, the burn
begins immediately in a beta format. I previously burned 6 audio discs
with the audio-beta selection. I found nothing on the drive properties to
restore the audio-beta selection. I am using Windows Media 11 and Jaws 8.
Help anyone?? Thank you, Don

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Re: Portable audio mixers

[Gary G Schindler]

you need adapters, and you won't pan cheap. you will have to probably spend around 
$200.00 or so for a mixer that pans .


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Hi,

I'm looking to purchase a portable, relatively cheap but good audio mixer.

I have 4 or 5 mics (2 mono and 2 sets of stereo) that all have 1/8 inch (8th 
inch) connectors on them.  I want to mix them all together so I can make audio 
drama and give everybody a mic.  I want to be able to control left and right 
channels and to be able to pan audio.  I'm looking at either connecting the 
mixer to my Zoom H2 recorder, or my computer.


Do I need cables to convert from 1/8 inch to another type of cable, or are there 
mixers with multiple 1/8 inputs?  Which should I go with?


Also, if I am trying to get a live concert with my ZoomH2, should I use 
soundboard or just record?  How would I use the soundboard without the volume 
level on the board being to high and distorting the recording?  Would I just put 
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Re: Recording audio from a VCR

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it sounds to me like you plugged into the video jack of your VCR. you shouldn't 
get a hum like that.

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> Greetings,
>
> How does one record onto a PC from a VCR without hum? I have tried both
> patching the two together directly and by using a mixer. I don't get
> this hum from any other source, and I have recorded onto a cassette deck
> in the past from the same machine. Do I need special cables? If so,
> where does one get them? I have already tried my neighborhood Radio
> Shack store. Thank you for any help you can give.
>
> Blessings,
>
> Mari
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Re: PC not recognizing Muvo T-100

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Norma, do you have an older Dell computer? I have one where the USB port is 
surrounded by plastic, and when you plug in a device it goes in vertically 
instead 
of my new computer that allows you to plug in devices from the front. the case 
on 
the Dell prohibits the muvo players from being able to completely slide into 
the 
port. you have to use an extension cable to get it to  work!
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> Ah OK. Well, it sounds like a unit issue, you may have to contact them and 
> ask 
> them about it. Or, you could try running a USB extention cable from the unit 
> to 
> the PC instead of connecting it directly.
> On Thursday, August 28, 2008 at 12:17 AM (GMT), Norma A. Boge wrote:
> Hi James, it doesn't use a cable, it plugs directly into a USB port.  Norma
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Re: "Switch" & "Tunebite"

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I don't believe the switch program will convert things to obb files with the 
free 
version either.
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> Yeh, Switch is very accessible, and the free version will convert almost
> anything! I don't think it'll handle DRM protected files though. The URL
> is http://www.nch.com.au/switch/index.html.
>
> Walter Ramage wrote:
>> Hi Folks.  Some of you may have noticed a topic lately about Sound Taxi.  I
>> have purchased this programme but I'm having accessibility problems and the
>> scripts won't install as I need JAWS 8 or above and I only have version 7.
>> Anyhow, After purchasing Sound Taxi I played around on the net to see if
>> there was a programme that would be easier to use.  Unknown to me I seemed
>> to have downloaded a programme called "switch."  I only discovered I had
>> installed it when I went to play a music file and found on the file menu an
>> option to "convert this music file."  I noticed also another new entry on
>> the file menu, "edit this file."  & also "recorder.  I have no idea how I
>> managed to do this but when I activated each of these I had to download
>> another component to activate them which I have done.  I haven't had time to
>> have a play with them yet, except the converting option.  I tried to convert
>> a protected file but it said it couldn't convert as it was protected but it
>> was simple to go through the procedure including selecting the bit rate,
>> right up to the convert button.  On the face of it, they look easy to use
>> with Jaws.  You have all the normal options in the convert option as you do
>> with Gold wave and in the edit option theirs all the normal stuff such as
>> mix etc.  This programme is free and I haven't paid a penny for it and there
>> is no indication that I will have to in future.  AS I said, I don't know
>> where I got this.  The program is called "Switch plus" and  I suspect I got
>> it when I downloaded a trial version of "Tunebite."  "Tunebite" is another
>> programme like Sound Taxi for decoding DRM encoded music files.  If I have
>> time in the next day or so then I'll have another search to see where I got
>> it and let you know or you can do a google search for "switch" music
>> converter.  If anyone finds it before I do, I would appreciate their posting
>> what they find.  That other programme I mentioned is "Tunebite" and the link
>> is:  http://tunebite.com/en/remove_drm/index.html.  Walter.
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Re: MP3 question

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it writes a new file every time, so there is going to be degradation.

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> If I take an MP3 recording, put it in Sound Forge, then save it again at the 
> same bit rate, will it degrade in quality each time I save it ?
>
> I was told this, and thought that if it was saved at the same rate, it would 
> stay the same quality?
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Re: Fwd: Accessible Devices Opportunity To Have Input OnTheDesignofNewRadio

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All of those devices you mentioned need a work over for accesssibility.!

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>I don't know if this would be possible, but it might be good if they look at
> developing the technology with a view to easily transporting it to other
> electronic devices.
> I would rather someone work on a accessible DVD player, or TV set top box,
> or audio apmplifier/tuner.
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 7:04 AM
> Subject: Re: Fwd: Accessible Devices Opportunity To Have Input On
> TheDesignofNewRadio
>
>
>>I agree this would be a good idea, for you don't want sighted people
>>thinking this
>> is a radio for mostly blind people . if that happens, it doesn't sell and
>> the
>> merchandise disappears from store shelves pretty quickly.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 1:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: Fwd: Accessible Devices Opportunity To Have Input On
>> TheDesign
>> ofNewRadio
>>
>>
>>> That sounds like that would be a great idea!
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>>> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 4:32 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Fwd: Accessible Devices Opportunity To Have Input On
>>> TheDesign
>>> of NewRadio
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi.  I think what would be really cool is to have them build
>>>> a  radio, but instead of it being a specialized radio designed
>>>> specifically for the blind, which is how this sounds, what they might
>>>> be able to do is build it exactly like a regular radio ,but find some
>>>> kind of a way to enable the accessibility features. These could be
>>>> enabled and disabled at will, most likely through a button that is
>>>> clearly marked on the radio itself or the remote, if it has
>>>> one.  This way, we wouldn't have to have sighted help, just to get to
>>>> the features we need.
>>>>  so a blind person could use the unit just as readily as a sighted
>>>> person could.  If menus are involved, I would hope that some kind of
>>>> audible clicks, or beeps, or even better, some kind of audible voice
>>>> prompts could be used, making it easier to set the time on the clock,
>>>> set up presets, tell what preset we're on, etc.  I know a lot of
>>>> radios and CD players are menu based nowadays.  So if the
>>>> accessibility features could be enabled and disabled, that would be a
>>>> good way to do it.
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Re: Fwd: Accessible Devices Opportunity To Have Input On TheDesign ofNewRadio

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I agree this would be a good idea, for you don't want sighted people thinking 
this 
is a radio for mostly blind people . if that happens, it doesn't sell and the 
merchandise disappears from store shelves pretty quickly.

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> That sounds like that would be a great idea!
> - Original Message - 
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> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 4:32 AM
> Subject: Re: Fwd: Accessible Devices Opportunity To Have Input On TheDesign
> of NewRadio
>
>
>> Hi.  I think what would be really cool is to have them build
>> a  radio, but instead of it being a specialized radio designed
>> specifically for the blind, which is how this sounds, what they might
>> be able to do is build it exactly like a regular radio ,but find some
>> kind of a way to enable the accessibility features. These could be
>> enabled and disabled at will, most likely through a button that is
>> clearly marked on the radio itself or the remote, if it has
>> one.  This way, we wouldn't have to have sighted help, just to get to
>> the features we need.
>>  so a blind person could use the unit just as readily as a sighted
>> person could.  If menus are involved, I would hope that some kind of
>> audible clicks, or beeps, or even better, some kind of audible voice
>> prompts could be used, making it easier to set the time on the clock,
>> set up presets, tell what preset we're on, etc.  I know a lot of
>> radios and CD players are menu based nowadays.  So if the
>> accessibility features could be enabled and disabled, that would be a
>> good way to do it.
>>
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Re: zen 2gig stone

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Rusty that is good to know. thanks a bunch.

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Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 10:52 AM
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> Hi,
> 
> I'm quite sure they do not wrap, but not yet 
> positive.  Playing around right now, but I did get a radio station, 
> my own fm transmitter!
> 
> Making progress.
> Rusty
> > At 03:43 PM 4/1/2008, Gary G Schindler spake thusly:-
>>Lest hope the menus in the Stone plus don't change randomly like 
>>other creative
>>players. do the menus in the stone plus wrap or not?
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "russell Bourgoin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 2:14 PM
>>Subject: RE: zen 2gig stone
>>
>>
>> > Hi John,
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks for taking the time to respond.  I'll check it out
>> > with the direction from your nice response.  Again, thanks.
>> >
>> > Rusty
>> > > At 10:31 AM 4/1/2008, John Sanfilippo spake thusly:-
>> >>Hi,
>> >>
>> >>I think this one is called zenstone plus.
>> >>
>> >>I have partial vision and found that the stone works sort of like this. I
>> >>say sort of, to cover my uncertainty, but this has been my experience:
>> >>
>> >>Hold zen plus so the flat screen faces you and is on the left side.
>> >>
>> >>On top left is an audio out jack. Bottom left is the USB connector.
>> >>
>> >>Top right has a rocker switch. Press this on its right side and hold it to
>> >>turn it on. I'm not quite certain what pressing it on the left side does.
>> >>
>> >>I often found that, after not pressing buttons for a while, the first key
>> >>press is merely a wake up call and does nothing, so keep that in mind.
>> >>
>> >>Now, facing you on the right is the more or less standard joy control, a
>> >>circle with a button in its center.
>> >>
>> >>The center button brings up a menu. When this menu is active the right and
>> >>left edges of the circle move thru things like file play, radio, recorder,
>> >>and who knows what else. But the files play mode I believe is 
>> furthest left.
>> >>When you think you have the mode you want, press the center button to
>> >>confirm your choice.
>> >>
>> >>So, assuming you start playing files, press the center button, then press
>> >>the right edge of the ring to move to radio, then press center 
>> again and the
>> >>radio should be playing. Now use the left and right buttons, you 
>> know what I
>> >>mean, to tune to the station you want. Experiment with this, 
>> because tapping
>> >>gets different results from pressing and holding, I think.
>> >>
>> >>Now, to get back to playing files, press that center button. Remember, you
>> >>might have to tap it twice because the first tap just says hello to the
>> >>unit. Once it wakes up, press the left button and confirm with center.
>> >>
>> >>As for the other modes, I'm not going there. I only know that I've
>> >>accidentally recorded my voice but cannot pin down how. I gave that unit to
>> >>a sighted friend.
>> >>
>> >>I have the 2 gig model with a tiny speaker and 2 of the 1 gig zens, none of
>> >>which have screens and are all friendlier to people not looking at a
>> >>display.
>> >>
>> >>Hth,
>> >>Js
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>-Original Message-
>> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>On Behalf Of russell Bourgoin
>> >>Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 08:47
>> >>To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
>> >>Subject: zen 2gig stone
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Hi Folks,
>> >>
>> >>  I'm wondering if anyone has figured out a good way for
>> >>navigating the zen stone two gig device.  I was given one, and have
>> >>put files on it and, actually played them once.  I don't know how I
>> >>did it and would like to be able to do it consistently.  Any help
>> >>appreciated!  I'd also like to know if the radio built into it is
>> >>worth using, or should I tote a separate 

Re: zen 2gig stone

[Gary G Schindler]

Lest hope the menus in the Stone plus don't change randomly like other creative 
players. do the menus in the stone plus wrap or not?

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Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 2:14 PM
Subject: RE: zen 2gig stone


> Hi John,
>
>
> Thanks for taking the time to respond.  I'll check it out
> with the direction from your nice response.  Again, thanks.
>
> Rusty
> > At 10:31 AM 4/1/2008, John Sanfilippo spake thusly:-
>>Hi,
>>
>>I think this one is called zenstone plus.
>>
>>I have partial vision and found that the stone works sort of like this. I
>>say sort of, to cover my uncertainty, but this has been my experience:
>>
>>Hold zen plus so the flat screen faces you and is on the left side.
>>
>>On top left is an audio out jack. Bottom left is the USB connector.
>>
>>Top right has a rocker switch. Press this on its right side and hold it to
>>turn it on. I'm not quite certain what pressing it on the left side does.
>>
>>I often found that, after not pressing buttons for a while, the first key
>>press is merely a wake up call and does nothing, so keep that in mind.
>>
>>Now, facing you on the right is the more or less standard joy control, a
>>circle with a button in its center.
>>
>>The center button brings up a menu. When this menu is active the right and
>>left edges of the circle move thru things like file play, radio, recorder,
>>and who knows what else. But the files play mode I believe is furthest left.
>>When you think you have the mode you want, press the center button to
>>confirm your choice.
>>
>>So, assuming you start playing files, press the center button, then press
>>the right edge of the ring to move to radio, then press center again and the
>>radio should be playing. Now use the left and right buttons, you know what I
>>mean, to tune to the station you want. Experiment with this, because tapping
>>gets different results from pressing and holding, I think.
>>
>>Now, to get back to playing files, press that center button. Remember, you
>>might have to tap it twice because the first tap just says hello to the
>>unit. Once it wakes up, press the left button and confirm with center.
>>
>>As for the other modes, I'm not going there. I only know that I've
>>accidentally recorded my voice but cannot pin down how. I gave that unit to
>>a sighted friend.
>>
>>I have the 2 gig model with a tiny speaker and 2 of the 1 gig zens, none of
>>which have screens and are all friendlier to people not looking at a
>>display.
>>
>>Hth,
>>Js
>>
>>
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>>On Behalf Of russell Bourgoin
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>>Subject: zen 2gig stone
>>
>>
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>>
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>>navigating the zen stone two gig device.  I was given one, and have
>>put files on it and, actually played them once.  I don't know how I
>>did it and would like to be able to do it consistently.  Any help
>>appreciated!  I'd also like to know if the radio built into it is
>>worth using, or should I tote a separate radio along with me?
>>
>>Rusty
>>
>>
>>The statistics on sanity are that one out of every four persons is
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Re: MLB game day audio help needed

[Gary G Schindler]

John it just worked for me, scroll down the page and you will find the games. 
you 
will se the time, TV feed and the radio feeds to listen to the games.

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Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 1:27 PM
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> Mike, I accessed your link from your post and didn't bookmark anything.
>
> earlier, Mike Pietruk, wrote:
>
>>John
>>
>>Here is the link I always use:
>>
>>mlb baseball Multimedia Guide
>>http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mediacenter/index.jsp
>>
>>When I click on that right now, I am shown today's games.
>>
>>What I bet you did is access that page on March 23, used ctrl-d, and
>>bookmarked that way.  What you did, if that's what you did, was bookmark a
>>specific date and not the general link.
>>You must bookmark
>>
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Re: MLB game day audio help needed

[Gary G Schindler]

Thanks Mike, you helped me out because i followed the instructions from the MLB 
site to access the games and got that calendar stuff.
.
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Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: MLB game day audio help needed


> John
>
> Here is the link I always use:
>
> mlb baseball Multimedia Guide
> http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mediacenter/index.jsp
>
> When I click on that right now, I am shown today's games.
>
> What I bet you did is access that page on March 23, used ctrl-d, and
> bookmarked that way.  What you did, if that's what you did, was bookmark a
> specific date and not the general link.
> You must bookmark
>
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Re: MLB game day audio help needed

[Gary G Schindler]

you have to go to today's games on game day audio or you will get archived 
games.
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Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 7:20 AM
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> Mike, I don't understand how your link works.  I saved one that you
> posted earlier.  When I go to that link in Fire Fox, I get the games
> for March 23.
>
> earlier, Mike Pietruk, wrote:
>
>>Patrick
>>
>>One suggestion which I have used for as long as I can remember.
>>Bookmark the multimedia page and go to it directly.
>>The link doesn't change from day to day so you can by-pass those previous
>>steps and be directly on the page for selecting a game.
>>I've even made this simpler for myself by creating a hotkey for the
>>purpose.
>>
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Re: Zoom H2 Accessibility

[Gary G Schindler]

see if you can use the Olympus LS-10 instead of the Zoom H2 for better mic 
quality. I don't know any blind person taking the chance with one. but I would 
consider the Olympus or the Sony that Neal Ewers demonstrated.


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> Hey all. Does anyone use the Zoom H2 recorder? If so, is it useable by
> a totally blind person, or should I just go for the Olympus DS50
> again? The thing that's attracting me to the H2 is the mike quality,
> and I'd rather not get one until I know if it's useable. Thanks for
> the help.--
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Re: making a podcast

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RSS isn't difficult at all. set yourself up a blog with wordpress or 
livejournal 
and get a feed from feedburner or some RSS generator.
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Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: making a podcast


> Hi,
>Thanks a lot for this information. THe mp3 conversion or posting is not
> a problem. Rss however is something i don't know. Is this difficult?
> Thanks.
> Dave.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Darrell Shandrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 4:38 PM
> Subject: Re: making a podcast
>
>
>> Gary and Dave,
>>
>> Converting the file is a very good idea, however, as the "standard" for
>> podcasts specifies an MP3 enclosure delivered by way of an RSS feed.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 12:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: making a podcast
>>
>>
>> the Olympus DS-50 cost about $249.00. the DS-40 costs $199.00. all you
>> need
>> do is
>> to convert the WMA file you record to an MP3 file if you want to. you
>> don't
>> need
>> to however since people that will be listening to your podcast might use
>> Windows
>> Media Player.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 1:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: making a podcast
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>Thanks for your reply. How much do those digital recorders go for and
>>> what's the difference between the two you referenced?
>>>I am learning goldwave.
>>> Thanks.
>>> Dave.
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 12:54 PM
>>> Subject: Re: making a podcast
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi, making the pod cast is simple, depends on your skill and the quality
>>>> you want to create. If your on the road, use a digital battery run
>>>> recorder, the best I know of is an Olympis 40 or 50. You just press a
>>>> button, speak and it is saved as a wma file. You must then download this
>>>> to your com, send it out.
>>>> But there are others out there that can ttell you of a less expensive
>>>> way
>>>> of doing this, but after all my personal research, I find that the
>>>> Olympis 40 does the job for me. I only wished I could have bought the 50
>>>> instead.
>>>> If you know how to work with sound editors, then you can really have
>>>> some
>>>> fun. But just for simple recording and posting it on your own site, for
>>>> your own use, keep it simple.
>>>> MMM
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 11:49:11 -0400 "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> Not sure if this is on topic, but i'm going to want to make a
>>>>> recurring
>>>>> podcast. I might be going away and i'm going to want to provide
>>>>> those here
>>>>> an account of my experiences. I'd like it in mp3 format and i'll
>>>>> store it on
>>>>> my web site, but i don't know what equipment i'll need. This is
>>>>> definitely
>>>>> on the budget plan.
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>>>>> Dave.
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Re: making a podcast

[Gary G Schindler]

Darrell, you're right about that, I wasn't thinking!
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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: making a podcast


> Gary and Dave,
> 
> Converting the file is a very good idea, however, as the "standard" for 
> podcasts specifies an MP3 enclosure delivered by way of an RSS feed.
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 12:50 PM
> Subject: Re: making a podcast
> 
> 
> the Olympus DS-50 cost about $249.00. the DS-40 costs $199.00. all you need 
> do is
> to convert the WMA file you record to an MP3 file if you want to. you don't 
> need
> to however since people that will be listening to your podcast might use 
> Windows
> Media Player.
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 1:48 PM
> Subject: Re: making a podcast
> 
> 
>> Hi,
>>Thanks for your reply. How much do those digital recorders go for and
>> what's the difference between the two you referenced?
>>I am learning goldwave.
>> Thanks.
>> Dave.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 12:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: making a podcast
>>
>>
>>> Hi, making the pod cast is simple, depends on your skill and the quality
>>> you want to create. If your on the road, use a digital battery run
>>> recorder, the best I know of is an Olympis 40 or 50. You just press a
>>> button, speak and it is saved as a wma file. You must then download this
>>> to your com, send it out.
>>> But there are others out there that can ttell you of a less expensive way
>>> of doing this, but after all my personal research, I find that the
>>> Olympis 40 does the job for me. I only wished I could have bought the 50
>>> instead.
>>> If you know how to work with sound editors, then you can really have some
>>> fun. But just for simple recording and posting it on your own site, for
>>> your own use, keep it simple.
>>> MMM
>>>
>>> On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 11:49:11 -0400 "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Not sure if this is on topic, but i'm going to want to make a
>>>> recurring
>>>> podcast. I might be going away and i'm going to want to provide
>>>> those here
>>>> an account of my experiences. I'd like it in mp3 format and i'll
>>>> store it on
>>>> my web site, but i don't know what equipment i'll need. This is
>>>> definitely
>>>> on the budget plan.
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> Dave.
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: making a podcast

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the Olympus DS-50 cost about $249.00. the DS-40 costs $199.00. all you need do 
is 
to convert the WMA file you record to an MP3 file if you want to. you don't 
need 
to however since people that will be listening to your podcast might use 
Windows 
Media Player.

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Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: making a podcast


> Hi,
>Thanks for your reply. How much do those digital recorders go for and
> what's the difference between the two you referenced?
>I am learning goldwave.
> Thanks.
> Dave.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 12:54 PM
> Subject: Re: making a podcast
>
>
>> Hi, making the pod cast is simple, depends on your skill and the quality
>> you want to create. If your on the road, use a digital battery run
>> recorder, the best I know of is an Olympis 40 or 50. You just press a
>> button, speak and it is saved as a wma file. You must then download this
>> to your com, send it out.
>> But there are others out there that can ttell you of a less expensive way
>> of doing this, but after all my personal research, I find that the
>> Olympis 40 does the job for me. I only wished I could have bought the 50
>> instead.
>> If you know how to work with sound editors, then you can really have some
>> fun. But just for simple recording and posting it on your own site, for
>> your own use, keep it simple.
>> MMM
>>
>> On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 11:49:11 -0400 "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> Hi,
>>> Not sure if this is on topic, but i'm going to want to make a
>>> recurring
>>> podcast. I might be going away and i'm going to want to provide
>>> those here
>>> an account of my experiences. I'd like it in mp3 format and i'll
>>> store it on
>>> my web site, but i don't know what equipment i'll need. This is
>>> definitely
>>> on the budget plan.
>>> Thanks.
>>> Dave.
>>>
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Re: Samson H2 digital recorders

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The only thing I didn't catch about the new Sony recorder that Neal reviewed is 
if 
you need some kind of proprietary software to transfer recordings from it to 
the 
computer. the audio of the Sony puts the Samsung to shame.

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Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 9:17 PM
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Forget it! the new Sony leaves it for dead, listen to full reviews of
each at http://www.blindcooltech.com

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> computer radio show called Samson H2. retail price is $199 and
> is a professional digital recorder. Very powerful built in
> microphone. Can one of you forward this to Neil in Wisconsin who
> does those podcasts on digital recorders.
>
> It uses 2 AA batteries. Uses standard SD cards. From the show no
> software is required to use this digital recorder. You pull out
> the SD card and insert into card reader and move the files over.
> I didn't hear anything about this device being a player though.
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Re: Radio Streams

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you have to uninstal the flash player you have with the Adobe flash player 
uninstaller and install the latest version of flash player.

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>I am prompted to install flash player on my pc when wanting to play a live
> radio stream, can anyone advise how to resolve this?
> I have flash player installed but think something is wrong in the Advance
> internet settings
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Re: or not? Concerning Michael Lang

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I for one am shocked. we turned to him for valued opinions and insite, so he 
will 
be missed.
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Good heavens! He's done a lot of stuff for us! Tragic indeed, and absolutely
terribly sad!
Curtis Delzer
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Hi everyone,

I haven't sent an email to this list for ages, but I really feel I have to
tell you all:

Michael Lang, a really friendly guy who helped many of us with many pc-audio
concerned problems, died recently.

Unfortunately I didn't know im personally.

But I had to learn from from reliable sources that  apparently he hanged
himself a couple of days ago.

I am so very sorry, and I sencerely regret not having thanked him more for
all his help and support and I am very, very  sad that he passed away!

May he rest in peace.

Please appologise my clumsy language! I really think that we've lost a very
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Re: sound editing?

[Gary G Schindler]

this is done with the what you hear or stereo mix options through your sound 
card.

- Original Message - 
From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 6:43 AM
Subject: Re: sound editing?


> Bruce, I'm sure this is correct, but i don't understand how you can play the
> backing track in winamp, & record in goldwave. are you saying: you are in
> goldwave, you start recording in new sound file, then alt tab into winamp,
> and start the backing track, then alt tab back into goldwave and start
> singing, sorry but i cannot imagine how that would work,
> Sorry about this,
> Billy
>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:42 PM
> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>
>
>> Okay, let me see if I can do a bit of a better job here. I start Gold
>> Wave recording. Then I switch into Winamp, start my file, and sing my
>> vocal.. Then I go in and trim the beginning and end off the vocal, since
>> it's just typing sounds. Then I load the music track into Gold Wave. I
>> copy the trimmed vocal track into the clipboard, and use control+m to
>> mix it in with the music track. Preview really helps here because you
>> can edit the precision of where you want it to start to within a
>> thousandth of a second. When it's mixed, including volumes and so on,
>> you save the track. This has the added benefit that you can add any
>> effects to your voice (reverb, for example, I use the Freeverb plugin as
>> it provides better reverb than Gold Wave's) before mixing the voice with
>> the music, so you don't have to apply the effect to the background music
>> as well.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:52:30 -, "TrueBlue & Proud"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>> Bruce,
>>> can you please explain how you achieved this?.
>>> Do you go into Winamp, and play the backing track, and then go into
>>> goldwave
>>> and put down the vocal in the new sound file function.
>>> If they are playing separately, then how can you record the finished
>>> project?.
>>> Aren't they in different programs, or am I missing something here, which
>>> is
>>> possible,
>>> Billy,
>>> Dinky Doo
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:38 PM
>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>
>>>
>>> >I recorded the vocal track separately with Winamp playing the music
>>> >track
>>> > in the background, then I mixed the two togetehr using Gold Wave. There
>>> > are other ways to do it, this is my prefered way.
>>> >
>>> > Bruce
>>> >
>>> > -- 
>>> > Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave
>>> > the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>>> >
>>> > Bruce Toews
>>> > Skype ID: o.canada
>>> > E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> > LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
>>> > Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
>>> > http://www.ogts.net
>>> > Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, 2 Mar 2008, TrueBlue & Proud wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Bruce,good to know. This is what I want to do.
>>> >> I want to be able to record my vocal track over the backing track, but
>>> >> I
>>> >> just can't get it to work.
>>> >> I'm just wondering if it because my sound card is built in sound on
>>> >> the
>>> >> mother board.
>>> >>
>>> >> Any help/tips to achieve this would be very helpful,
>>> >> Billy
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> - Original Message -
>>> >> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> >> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 1:33 PM
>>> >> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>> I use GW for everything from one-track production to mixing my radio
>>> >>> shows
>>> >>> together to recording my voice over a karaoke track.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Bruce
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --
>>> >>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>>> >>> gave
>>> >>> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Bruce Toews
>>> >>> Skype ID: o.canada
>>> >>> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> >>> LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
>>> >>> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
>>> >>> http://www.ogts.net
>>> >>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Sat, 1 Mar 2008, Sarah wrote:
>>> >>>
>>>  I produce my one track podcasts with gw and love it! I just started
>>>  donig
>>>  this sometime last year.
>>> 
>>>  Sarah Alawami
>>>  MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>  skype: marrie1
>>>  Website;
>>>  www.marrie.org
>>>  To check out my podcast go to
>>>  http://feeds.feedburner.com/funfilled
>>>  For information on the list where you can discuss the podcast check
>>>  out
>>>  http://tffp.m

Re: Exact Audio Copy Class

[Gary G Schindler]

say no more, you have explained enough. I certainly didn't mean to imply that 
you 
hadn't. I was curious about the program.

- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: Exact Audio Copy Class


Well yes, it can be made to do some file conversions, you can for
example convert from wave to MP3 and this feature is even further
enhanced if you know the command line structure of the 32-bit console
versions of say Flac or LAME, you can them set these command lines up
in EAC and load them on a "profile" basis, one for Flac, one for
different presets of LAME and so forth.
I probably haven't explained myself properly here so please (if you
need to) ask questions.

On 06/03/2008, at 2:52 PM, Gary G Schindler wrote:

> I have heard nothing but good things to say about exact audio copy.
> I guess
> ripping is the only thing it does? it doesn't do file conversions?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 9:47 PM
> Subject: Re: Exact Audio Copy Class
>
>
> I must say that I'm very proud to see Exact Audio Copy at last!
> getting some well overdue recognition and not being laughed at for a
> change by the few idiots around the traps who ought to know better
> .
> yes, the software is even better than it was before with the
> introduction of several improvements including the "accurate rip"
> feature which compares other rips (done by EAC) of the same CD over
> the Internet, from that information EAC can automatically configure
> your CD drive for optimum performance when ripping rather than you
> having to specify the ofset speeds manually etc.
>
> On 06/03/2008, at 1:25 PM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote:
>
>> High Steve,
>> Where can I get this software, and how much will it cost me?
>> I have been trying to make my home made CD's look like store bought
>> CD's
>> sense the late 1990's.
>> This software sounds like it will do what I need it to do for me as
>> far as
>> ripping and burning CD's goes.
>> Sorry I'm not a VIP, other words, I'd attend the class.
>> My best regards.
>> John.
>
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Re: looking for a stand-alone soft e q.

[Gary G Schindler]

Okay, bob, I am not a ham either, but heard of Echolink for hams and wondered 
if 
this equalizer would work with it. thanks anyway.
- Original Message - 
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Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 10:26 PM
Subject: Re: looking for a stand-alone soft e q.


> Hi Gary.  I don't know anything about HAM.  I only noticed they said the EQ
> package was designed for the ameture radio comunity.
>
> Bob
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 11:14 PM
> Subject: Re: looking for a stand-alone soft e q.
>
>
>> Bobcat, that is an interesting read. could you use this equalizer with
>> Echolink?
>> things are getting quite sophisticated for ham radio these days.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Bobcat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 5:03 PM
>> Subject: Re: looking for a stand-alone soft e q.
>>
>>
>>> Here is another equalizer to try.
>>> RoMac 10 Band Equalizer
>>> http://www.romacsoftware.com/EQdefault.asp
>>>
>>> Don't let the name fool you.  It is Windows not Mac software.
>>> This page is worth looking at just for the technical information alone.
>>> The
>>> product appears to be developed for the Amateur Radio Community
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>>
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Re: Multiquence Question

[Gary G Schindler]

I have heard that it is not accessible, and I have determined from listening to 
most of your podcasts,you usually get things to work if it's doable.
- Original Message - 
From: "Sarah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 1:35 AM
Subject: Re: Multiquence Question


>I was never able to get it to work, but maybe I was not patient enough. lol! 
>Hopfully someone else has a different answer.
> Sarah Alawami
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> http://tffp.marrie.org/mailman/listinfo/tffpdiscussionlist_tffp.marrie.org
> Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 3:14 AM
> Subject: Multiquence Question
>
>
> High List members,
> I was on the Gold Wave website yesterday evening, I saw a peace of multitrack 
> mixing software that's called Multiquence.
> How user friendly is this software with Jaws and other screen readers?
>  John.
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Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

[Gary G Schindler]

I suspect that if you had already purchased soundforge or something from 
Tracertech, you wouldn't necessarily even know anything about Goldwave. this is 
one of those programs the blind people brought to the forefront because of it's 
accessibility, and the developer's willingness to make it so. it would be like 
driving around in a Lamberdini and one day finding yourself having to get to 
and 
from with a Hugo. it gets most jobs done if you are willing to tweak it. if you 
are fortunate enough to have available plug-ins, they will most certainly work 
with goldwave.

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Eickmeier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 7:11 AM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


> Hi Caroline,
> if you have other plugins, like ones from  SoundForge for example, you
> could use them, instead of using one that has come  with GW.  For
> example, if you wanted an effect that you could get using SoundForge,
> I'm pretty sure that you could use that same effects plugin with
> GoldWave.  Personally I've used SoundForge for all my major editing
> for any production work I've done for various internet stations.
> Hope that helps you.
> On 4-Mar-08, at 6:08 PM, Caroline wrote:
>
>> Maybe I'm missing something really obvious here, but I've got a
>> question.  I
>> also have the Winamp plug-in thing for Goldwave and it works fine
>> for me.
>> So, please tell me if you would, what's the big deal, and what's the
>> difference, between going to the effects menu and picking a plug-in
>> or going
>> to the effects menu and choosing a built-in effect.  I guess I'm
>> just not
>> seeing what the big deal is, and from the tone of the message below
>> it seems
>> as though you just don't like the program and no matter what was
>> done it
>> wouldn't make a difference.  This is just my opinion of course, but
>> I just
>> found the below message to be rather rude.
>>
>> Caroline
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>
>>
>>> I agree with yu on this one, leave the noise in the file if you have
>>> nothing but
>>> the goldwave filter. let's get the developer to work on his noise
>>> filter
>>> so we
>>> don't have to use other third party plug-ins that do a superior job
>>> in
>>> comparison.I want you Bruce to quit saying how well the damn thing
>>> works
>>> and
>>> provide me with an example and we shall let it go at that. don't
>>> continue
>>> to tell
>>> people in so many words they don't know what they are doing give
>>> demonstrations,
>>> because you are not going to convince me the filter works
>>> otherwise. don't
>>> brag,
>>> just produce fact.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 9:32 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>>
>>>
>>>> I've had very good success using the noiseprint filter to remove air
>>>> conditioning noises and so on using Gold Wave. It has been my
>>>> experience
>>>> that if someone who knows what they are doing cannot remove the
>>>> noise
>>>> artificat-free in Gold Wave, none of the other non-professional
>>>> methods,
>>>> and few if any of the professional ones, will do any better. Most
>>>> efforts leave you either with a lot of artifacts or a very
>>>> tinny-sounding audio. My personal belief is that if it sounds
>>>> filtered,
>>>> you're better off with the noise.
>>>>
>>>> Bruce
>>>> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 18:22:54 +1100, "Dane Trethowan"
>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>>>> With air conditioner noises and such, it would seem (to me at
>>>>> least)
>>>>> to capture a noise print and work on that rather than set up manual
>>>>> filters.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 04/03/2008, at 4:27 AM, Doc wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Have you tried using the low band pass for those air conditioner
>>>>>> noises?
>>>>>>
>>>>>&

Re: Exact Audio Copy Class

[Gary G Schindler]

I have heard nothing but good things to say about exact audio copy. I guess 
ripping is the only thing it does? it doesn't do file conversions?

- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: Exact Audio Copy Class


I must say that I'm very proud to see Exact Audio Copy at last!
getting some well overdue recognition and not being laughed at for a
change by the few idiots around the traps who ought to know better
.
yes, the software is even better than it was before with the
introduction of several improvements including the "accurate rip"
feature which compares other rips (done by EAC) of the same CD over
the Internet, from that information EAC can automatically configure
your CD drive for optimum performance when ripping rather than you
having to specify the ofset speeds manually etc.

On 06/03/2008, at 1:25 PM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote:

> High Steve,
> Where can I get this software, and how much will it cost me?
> I have been trying to make my home made CD's look like store bought
> CD's
> sense the late 1990's.
> This software sounds like it will do what I need it to do for me as
> far as
> ripping and burning CD's goes.
> Sorry I'm not a VIP, other words, I'd attend the class.
> My best regards.
>  John.

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Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

[Gary G Schindler]

the message may seem rude, but as far as I am concerned it is put to bed. there 
is 
n issue here. I have no quarrel with Bruce, so that is that.
we can go back and forth about the noise reduction plugin, he likes it I don't. 
that is it. lets end this thread.

- Original Message - 
From: "Caroline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


> Maybe I'm missing something really obvious here, but I've got a question.  I
> also have the Winamp plug-in thing for Goldwave and it works fine for me.
> So, please tell me if you would, what's the big deal, and what's the
> difference, between going to the effects menu and picking a plug-in or going
> to the effects menu and choosing a built-in effect.  I guess I'm just not
> seeing what the big deal is, and from the tone of the message below it seems
> as though you just don't like the program and no matter what was done it
> wouldn't make a difference.  This is just my opinion of course, but I just
> found the below message to be rather rude.
>
> Caroline
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>
>
>>I agree with yu on this one, leave the noise in the file if you have
>>nothing but
>> the goldwave filter. let's get the developer to work on his noise filter
>> so we
>> don't have to use other third party plug-ins that do a superior job in
>> comparison.I want you Bruce to quit saying how well the damn thing works
>> and
>> provide me with an example and we shall let it go at that. don't continue
>> to tell
>> people in so many words they don't know what they are doing give
>> demonstrations,
>> because you are not going to convince me the filter works otherwise. don't
>> brag,
>> just produce fact.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 9:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>
>>
>>> I've had very good success using the noiseprint filter to remove air
>>> conditioning noises and so on using Gold Wave. It has been my experience
>>> that if someone who knows what they are doing cannot remove the noise
>>> artificat-free in Gold Wave, none of the other non-professional methods,
>>> and few if any of the professional ones, will do any better. Most
>>> efforts leave you either with a lot of artifacts or a very
>>> tinny-sounding audio. My personal belief is that if it sounds filtered,
>>> you're better off with the noise.
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 18:22:54 +1100, "Dane Trethowan"
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>>> With air conditioner noises and such, it would seem (to me at least)
>>>> to capture a noise print and work on that rather than set up manual
>>>> filters.
>>>>
>>>> On 04/03/2008, at 4:27 AM, Doc wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Have you tried using the low band pass for those air conditioner
>>>> > noises?
>>>> >
>>>> > **
>>>> > Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > robert Doc Wright
>>>> > http://www.wrightplaceinc.net
>>>> > msn
>>>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> > Click to call me
>>>> > http://me.vonage.com/robwright
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > - Original Message -
>>>> > From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>>> > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 8:26 AM
>>>> > Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > you can buy the separate plug-in, but like you say, it costs 5 times
>>>> > as much
>>>> > as
>>>> > the goldwave program. the pop and click filter in goldwave works
>>>> > pretty
>>>> > good, but
>>>> > when it comes to removing things like air conditioner noise, or
>>>> > buzzes, it
>>>> > could
>>>> > be improved upon.
>>>> > goldwave's best asset 

Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

[Gary G Schindler]

now Bruce, that wasn't bad, do you have a copy without the noise reduction?we 
need 
some before and after samples. describe what you did if anything to change the 
settings. I'll possibly if I can find it, give you a troublesome noise print 
sample to show you what I was trying to work with. my sister was in a nursing 
home, and my Dad used a camcorder one day so I got the audio from it. the heat 
pump in the background was noisy as all heck!

- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 2:58 AM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


> You don't have to, you just need to know what you are doing. Take the
> following example:
>
> http://bt.shellworld.net/promo.mp3
>
> When I recorded this a couple of years ago, I had computer noises and our
> air conditioning system behind it, and I eliminated them using nothing but
> the default noiseprint settings with Gold Wave. The only thing I did with
> the file now as convert the wave file to MP3.
>
> Bruce
>
> -- 
> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave
> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>
> Bruce Toews
> Skype ID: o.canada
> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
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>
> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008, Gary G Schindler wrote:
>
>> I have stated in a previous message the pop and click filter in goldwafe work
>> quite well. the hiss filter works too, but to me, taking a noise print with
>> goldwave doesn't work the way I like it to. you shouldn't have to fiddle 
>> with 
>> the
>> settings to much to get good results from a noise print.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 11:11 AM
>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>
>>
>> Hi Gary. Well of course I'm limited with wave forms. I think that's a
>> problem with all such software. However, you do have built-in choices for
>> the kind of noise that you want to reduce, and presets which allow you to
>> work with the sound with what is quite honestly trial and error. However,
>> the original sound is always saved, so you can mess around a bit without
>> worrying. The kind of noise that I work with is surface noise from 78s,
>> often with homemade recordings from back when people owned machines that
>> recorded on 78s. I know the presets that I need for such recordings and
>> apply them. When it comes to reducing cassette hiss, there are 4 different
>> presets ranging from light to heavy handed and including everything in
>> between which are clearly spoken and work extremely well with speech. You
>> can also adjust those settings with your own variations and save them, much
>> as you can in GoldWave.
>>
>> I also use Dc6 a lot for recording. It's quick and simple to set up. And if
>> you screw up the recoring somehow and want to start over, you just hit altF4
>> and the program prompts you with speech, asking if you want to delete the
>> current recording. As I said, fast, easy and painless. For recording ease
>> alone the app is worth it to me.
>>
>> Now, as a Sound Forge user, can you tell me how to go about reducing vinyl
>> pops clicks and other anomalies using Sound Forge? It's probably me, but I'm
>> not getting it. All i see is a choice that calls itself audio restoration
>> and offers 2 different choices for restoring.
>>
>> By the way, I have Window-eyes 6.1 and Jaws 8. Would scripts help? If so,
>> where do I get them and what in the world do I do with them once I have
>> them?
>>
>> Larry
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 12:51 PM
>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>
>>
>> usually you have to buy the soundforge noise reduction plugin separately, I
>> think
>> it may be bundled with version 9. How do you use the editor in DC 6?
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:29 AM
>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>
>>
>> My biggest knock on Sound Forge is that it is, as others have pointe

Re: MLB game day audio and BrailleSense

[Gary G Schindler]

Thanks for the info, I guess that puts a damper on that idea! what player comes 
installed on the Braille note or Voice note?
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Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 9:46 PM
Subject: RE: MLB game day audio and BrailleSense


> Hi Gary.
>
> Don't hold your breath if you want to use the PAC Mate Omni to hear MLB 
> Baseball.  I've tried to get it to work, and so far I've had no luck.  In 
> fact 
> I've tried to hear NFL and NHL audio with the same poor results.  If anyone 
> knows some sport that I can hear with the PAC Mate Omni I'd appreciate the 
> info. 
> I'd even be willing to install another audio player.
>
> Kevin Minor
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Re: Converting Itunes files

[Gary G Schindler]

Are the M4A files mostly for audio books? I have limited experience with ITune 
stuff.
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To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 7:44 PM
Subject: RE: Converting Itunes files


> They can't be any better than they are and Itunes has converted them
> considerably.  Also, wave files are huge.
>
> -Original Message-
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> On Behalf Of G. McFarlane
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 7:27 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Converting Itunes files
>
> Hi Gary
> itunes files are m4a files - not sure what is at the root of that. I'm sure
> you're right - to convert them to mp3 must involve some loss. I really was
> asking if the highest setting 320 is 'perfect' as Sound Taxi says, or if I
> could maintain the original quality by converting the itunes file to wav.
> Regards.
> gordon
> - Original Message -
> From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:56 PM
> Subject: Re: Converting Itunes files
>
>
>> Aren't the ITunes files AAC files? it seems to me that you would have
>> some loss converting to MP3 no matter what the bitrate is.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "G. McFarlane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC-Audio" 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 6:34 PM
>> Subject: Converting Itunes files
>>
>>
>>> Hi
>>> Using Sound Taxi am I right in saying that converting Itunes files, I
>>> would be better to use the MP3 320 bit rate setting rather then
>>> anything lower, for example 192 which some of the files are
>>> downloaded at. I don't suppose it will improve the quality but will
>>> it maintain it? (I'm kind of assuming that as Sound Taxi re-records
>>> the file that it re-compresses it.) When 320 is claimed by Sound Taxi
>>> to be 'Perfect' would it be as good as using the wav conversion?
>>> Finally
>>> would I just be best to use the wav conversion of the files to
>>> maintain the original standard?
>>> The answer's probably obvious but I just wanted clarification in
>>> order to keep the files at the best possible quality.
>>> Thanks.
>>> Gordon McFarlane
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Re: looking for a stand-alone soft e q.

[Gary G Schindler]

Bobcat, that is an interesting read. could you use this equalizer with 
Echolink? 
things are getting quite sophisticated for ham radio these days.
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> Here is another equalizer to try.
> RoMac 10 Band Equalizer
> http://www.romacsoftware.com/EQdefault.asp
>
> Don't let the name fool you.  It is Windows not Mac software.
> This page is worth looking at just for the technical information alone.  The
> product appears to be developed for the Amateur Radio Community
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Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

[Gary G Schindler]

Bruce, ease of use with respect to manipulating markers how one moves around 
within the audio file, the speed with which deletions, cuts and pastes take 
place, 
good quality noise reduction, non destructive editing and so on. goldwave is 
pretty darn good for most things for the average guy except for the noise 
reduction. I think it's best feature is the cross fading. goldwave will 
certainly 
get the job done most of the time. I believe a good program should stand on 
it's 
own merit, less dependent on third party applications to make it work better. 
you 
shouldn't have to spend more money on a piece of software like goldwave to 
bolster 
it. that to me is what I like in a professional audio production software we'll 
make a soundforge lover out of you yet.
- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


>I know I'm going to regret this, but what makes an editor a professional
> one in your personal opinion?
>
> Bruce
> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 04:19:01 -0500, "Gary G Schindler"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> I wouldn't push goldwave as a professional audio editor, powerful yes,
>> professional no. your example of Amadeus Pro is an excellent example of
>> what can
>> be done at an affordable price.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 2:30 AM
>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>
>>
>> That's been my point all along, you get what you pay for. Yes ok,
>> Amadeus Pro at $40.00 has some really excellent noise reduction stuff
>> which is comparible to the competition but even supposing Amadeus Pro
>> didn't have these excellent noise removal tools? Well in my view, the
>> software would still be an absolute bargain, GoldWave and Amadeus Pro
>> are advertised as "audio editors" and where does it say anywhere that
>> Noise reduction has to be part of an audio editor?
>> As I and others have said before, the great thing about Goldwave,
>> Amadeus Pro, Sound Forge, Total Recorder, Sonar and others is that you
>> can use other plug-ins with the product so if you don't like what
>> Goldwave has to offer in the form of Noise Reduction, Graphic EQ or
>> whatever then by all means! by a third party plug-in to solve the
>> problem and (strange as it may seem) if you buy Goldwave then you
>> certainly are given a lot of change to purchase other plug-ins .
>> I myself use a lot of Third Party plug-ins, I used them with Sound
>> Gorge but now I'll most likely be using them with Goldwave as I found
>> them to be far more accessible with a screen reader, I detailed them
>> before some time ago on this list, a whole heap of equalisers,
>> filters, flangers, echo units, compressors and the like which (once
>> again) are absolutely compatible with anything which will handle direx
>> plug-ins.
>>
>> On 03/03/2008, at 12:35 PM, constantine (on laptop) wrote:
>>
>> > So seriously, I'm finding this a bit insulting. You expect gold
>> > wave, priced
>> > at 29 bucks, to do what sound forge does huh? Well, sound forge is
>> > about 400
>> > plus, and honestly, only a millionare could afford it. Not to
>> > mention, if
>> > you don't like gw's noise reduction features, use audacity, as
>> > someone on
>> > here already stated, its features in terms of noise reduction are
>> > better
>> > than gw.
>> >
>> >
>> > Have a good day from Tyler C. Wood!
>> >
>> > contact details:
>> >
>> > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > skype: the_conman283
>> >
>> > system details:
>> > Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc
>> > AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 2512 mb DDR ram(
>> > hopefully!), Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 1:10 PM
>> > Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>> >
>> >
>> > Yeah ok but Sound Forge (unless I'm wrong these days) is ten times the
>> > price is it not? Let's face it, you "get what you pay for" in some
>> > cases and if you really wanted a better Noise Reduction Plug-in
>> >

Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

[Gary G Schindler]

I have stated in a previous message the pop and click filter in goldwafe work 
quite well. the hiss filter works too, but to me, taking a noise print with 
goldwave doesn't work the way I like it to. you shouldn't have to fiddle with 
the 
settings to much to get good results from a noise print.
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From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


Hi Gary. Well of course I'm limited with wave forms. I think that's a
problem with all such software. However, you do have built-in choices for
the kind of noise that you want to reduce, and presets which allow you to
work with the sound with what is quite honestly trial and error. However,
the original sound is always saved, so you can mess around a bit without
worrying. The kind of noise that I work with is surface noise from 78s,
often with homemade recordings from back when people owned machines that
recorded on 78s. I know the presets that I need for such recordings and
apply them. When it comes to reducing cassette hiss, there are 4 different
presets ranging from light to heavy handed and including everything in
between which are clearly spoken and work extremely well with speech. You
can also adjust those settings with your own variations and save them, much
as you can in GoldWave.

I also use Dc6 a lot for recording. It's quick and simple to set up. And if
you screw up the recoring somehow and want to start over, you just hit altF4
and the program prompts you with speech, asking if you want to delete the
current recording. As I said, fast, easy and painless. For recording ease
alone the app is worth it to me.

Now, as a Sound Forge user, can you tell me how to go about reducing vinyl
pops clicks and other anomalies using Sound Forge? It's probably me, but I'm
not getting it. All i see is a choice that calls itself audio restoration
and offers 2 different choices for restoring.

By the way, I have Window-eyes 6.1 and Jaws 8. Would scripts help? If so,
where do I get them and what in the world do I do with them once I have
them?

Larry
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From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


usually you have to buy the soundforge noise reduction plugin separately, I
think
it may be bundled with version 9. How do you use the editor in DC 6?
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From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


My biggest knock on Sound Forge is that it is, as others have pointed out,
so overloaded with features that try to be everybody's everything.
Still, I purchased version 8.0 sometime back and would like to get all I can
from it. Can you tell me where to find its noise reduction features and how
to work with them?

As for DC 6, my only criticism would be the manual's inaccessibility.I
Haven't had a lot of trouble in getting around the program.

Larry
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From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 4:37 AM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


the biggest complaint I have about Goldwave is that the noise reduction
isn't very
good at all. Soundforge is much better in this respect. I used to like the
Diamond
Cut programs for noise reduction too, but for editing files for a blind
person was
and probably still is difficult. if studio recorder from APH had some kind
of
noise reduction, I might have sprung for it, but it is pricy, so if I am
going to
shell out money, I'll buy soundforge again. wavepad does some nice things
too, but
seemed rather limited in what it does do so I quit using it. I thought it
could be
a little easier to do basic editing functions with it.



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From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:08 PM
Subject: Goldwave Audio Editor


Ok, well I'm very impressed with this editing package and in a lot of
ways I believe Goldwave to be more functional and practical than Sound
Forge ever was or probably is ever likely to be, the layout of the
manual is very well done and easy to get around.
I went to the site at http://www.goldwave.com but I couldn't find a
purchase price anywhere and (to my slight annoyance) it seems that
Goldwave INC won't take paypal  but if its a fair price then
I'll save to purchase this.

**
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Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

[Gary G Schindler]

I have never used sonar since I don't create music. I would like to know how it 
works too. I had figured that there wouldn't be much need to play with Sonar or 
Cakewalk. I am mostly into restoration like some others on this list.

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From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 4:58 AM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


> Garry, what about Sonar. how did you find that particular software to use?,
> Billy
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 3:43 PM
> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>
>
>> frankly you couldn't get a program to be any easier than soundforge.
>> godwave to me
>> is cumbersome to work with even though you get the job done, but like you
>> say, it
>> is a matter of preference.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 3:05 PM
>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>
>>
>>> I've tried Sound Forge's editing, and I'm sure it's wonderful, but I
>>> personally, and this is strictly personal preference, prefer Gold Wave's
>>> method of editing.
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave
>>> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>>>
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>>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>>>
>>> On Sun, 2 Mar 2008, Gary G Schindler wrote:
>>>
>>>> I expect a noise reduction package to work better than it does, and a
>>>> soundforge
>>>> like editing capability.
>>>>
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:02 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've not played with that part yet but really, for $40.00? What do you
>>>> expect, its a steal.
>>>>
>>>> On 02/03/2008, at 8:37 PM, Gary G Schindler wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> the biggest complaint I have about Goldwave is that the noise
>>>>> reduction isn't very
>>>>> good at all. Soundforge is much better in this respect. I used to
>>>>> like the Diamond
>>>>> Cut programs for noise reduction too, but for editing files for a
>>>>> blind person was
>>>>> and probably still is difficult. if studio recorder from APH had
>>>>> some kind of
>>>>> noise reduction, I might have sprung for it, but it is pricy, so if
>>>>> I am going to
>>>>> shell out money, I'll buy soundforge again. wavepad does some nice
>>>>> things too, but
>>>>> seemed rather limited in what it does do so I quit using it. I
>>>>> thought it could be
>>>>> a little easier to do basic editing functions with it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:08 PM
>>>>> Subject: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok, well I'm very impressed with this editing package and in a lot of
>>>>> ways I believe Goldwave to be more functional and practical than Sound
>>>>> Forge ever was or probably is ever likely to be, the layout of the
>>>>> manual is very well done and easy to get around.
>>>>> I went to the site at http://www.goldwave.com but I couldn't find a
>>>>> purchase price anywhere and (to my slight annoyance) it seems that
>>>>> Goldwave INC won't take paypal  but if its a fair price then
>>>>> I'll save to purchase this.
>>>>>
>>>>> 

Re: MLB game day audio and BrailleSense

[Gary G Schindler]

I don't have a Braille sense either. if I get back to work, I'll save my 
shekels 
for a Packmate which has a pocket version of windows media player.

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From: "Kane Brolin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: MLB game day audio and BrailleSense


> On 3/4/08, Gary G Schindler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I was able to listen to the Phillies and Pirates successfully yesterday.
>
> Gary, did you try this on your Braille Sense?  I'm curious to see
> whether this will work on a Braille Sense, BrailleNote, PAC Mate, or
> (alternatively) an Icon.  I haven't yet obtained one of these devices,
> but plan to do so rather soon.  It would be fun to have portable
> access to MLB's media player through a wifi connection in the house.
>>
>> everything is back to normal now. the only thing worth mentioning is I lost
>> my feed when browsing to another site on the internet. I was looking at some
>> podcasts and my window disappeared, thus my audio was gone.
>
> This does happen sometimes.  But I've not found that the MLB player
> window is highly unstable.  It usually stays with me as long as I want
> it.
>>
>> When the ball clubs do webcasts, I wish the audio wouldn't sound so damn
>> cheap.
>
> I guess that's why we pay around $15 for the entire season of just
> audio feeds, while those who want the television feed pay nearly $15
> each month.  There is a bandwidth difference.  To be fair, the reason
> why some of these audio feeds sound as though they were filtered or as
> though they went through a bad phone line, is because that is
> reflective of how the signal is fed into the radio stations carrying
> the games.  Even on HD radio, I doubt that you're getting CD-quality
> sound from the ballparks.  Most stations probably believe this is
> unnecessary, since MLB over-the-air broadcasts usually are aired on
> low-wattage talk or sports talk AM stations any more, not on great
> clear channel stations and certainly not on FM stereo stations.  I
> think this year's audio feeds from MLB.com are better than last
> year's.
>>
>> You gave a nice description of the various broadcast links.
>
> Thanks.  I did this in case someone else on the list has an issue with
> GameDay Audio in the future.
>
> One other thing to keep in mind:  MLB.com does not use the exact same
> media playing protocols for all feeds.  For example, there's no way to
> play archived daily fast casts or videos (as of interviews that were
> done for MLB Radio) if you're using JAWS.  You can get to these
> interview or headline feeds, but because they're all offered only
> using the SilverLight flash player, we as blind users have no way to
> activate those feeds' PLAY mechanism.  Fortunately, it is possible for
> us to receive live or archived audio feeds of games, because even
> though these are offered to us in SilverLight to start with, you can
> "switch to original media player."  It also is possible always to
> listen to the audio feed of Baseball Channel.TV, which airs programs
> such as "Staying Hot" and "Fantasy 411."  This apparently doesn't
> stream by default in SilverLight.
>
> One more final, final note:  If you delete your cookies in Internet
> Explorer, as I had to do yesterday for an unrelated reason, you'll
> have to opt for the original media player again next time you turn on
> a game feed.  As long as you don't delete cookies, you'll not have to
> make that selection each time; GameDay Audio will default to the
> original media player setting
> -Kane
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Kane Brolin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 5:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: MLB game day audio and BrailleSense
>>
>>
>> > On 3/2/08, Gary G Schindler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> I am glad you brought up the silver lite thing. somehow I was able to go
>> >> back and choose the classic media player.
>> >
>> > I heard from a tech support rep at Freedom Scientific today. He
>> > affirms that, as far as he knows, SilverLight is not accessible to
>> > JAWS. In fact, the program might have been developed specifically so
>> > that only a mouse could invoke the SilverLight player. (Thanks again
>> > for your "sensitivity" to access issues, Microsoft!)
>> >>
>> >> When I tried the silverlight thing, I was
>> >> told something about doing maintenan

Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

[Gary G Schindler]

Bruce, that does work well. 
- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


>I agree with you that Gold Wave's native normalization leaves something
> to be desired (or I need to learn more about it, one or the other). What
> I prefer to do is to use the free GWAMP plugin that allows you to use
> DSP effect plugins for Winamp. Then I use Audio Stocker.
> 
> Bruce
> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 03:38:35 -0500, "Gary G Schindler"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> Frankly I like wave pad. to me it does a better job  of normalizing than
>> goldwave. 
>> the only thing I would like is for the equalizer to be more acdessible in
>> wave 
>> pad. I dont recall any noise reduction in Audacity, so it must be an
>> addition to 
>> it since I checked it out.
>> 
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Chris Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 5:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Gary,
>> Try Wave Pad.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 1:05 PM
>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>> 
>> 
>> I expect a noise reduction package to work better than it does, and a
>> soundforge
>> like editing capability.
>> 
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:02 AM
>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>> 
>> 
>> I've not played with that part yet but really, for $40.00? What do you
>> expect, its a steal.
>> 
>> On 02/03/2008, at 8:37 PM, Gary G Schindler wrote:
>> 
>> > the biggest complaint I have about Goldwave is that the noise
>> > reduction isn't very
>> > good at all. Soundforge is much better in this respect. I used to
>> > like the Diamond
>> > Cut programs for noise reduction too, but for editing files for a
>> > blind person was
>> > and probably still is difficult. if studio recorder from APH had
>> > some kind of
>> > noise reduction, I might have sprung for it, but it is pricy, so if
>> > I am going to
>> > shell out money, I'll buy soundforge again. wavepad does some nice
>> > things too, but
>> > seemed rather limited in what it does do so I quit using it. I
>> > thought it could be
>> > a little easier to do basic editing functions with it.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:08 PM
>> > Subject: Goldwave Audio Editor
>> >
>> >
>> > Ok, well I'm very impressed with this editing package and in a lot of
>> > ways I believe Goldwave to be more functional and practical than Sound
>> > Forge ever was or probably is ever likely to be, the layout of the
>> > manual is very well done and easy to get around.
>> > I went to the site at http://www.goldwave.com but I couldn't find a
>> > purchase price anywhere and (to my slight annoyance) it seems that
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Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

[Gary G Schindler]

I agree with yu on this one, leave the noise in the file if you have nothing 
but 
the goldwave filter. let's get the developer to work on his noise filter so we 
don't have to use other third party plug-ins that do a superior job in 
comparison.I want you Bruce to quit saying how well the damn thing works and 
provide me with an example and we shall let it go at that. don't continue to 
tell 
people in so many words they don't know what they are doing give 
demonstrations, 
because you are not going to convince me the filter works otherwise. don't 
brag, 
just produce fact.
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From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


> I've had very good success using the noiseprint filter to remove air
> conditioning noises and so on using Gold Wave. It has been my experience
> that if someone who knows what they are doing cannot remove the noise
> artificat-free in Gold Wave, none of the other non-professional methods,
> and few if any of the professional ones, will do any better. Most
> efforts leave you either with a lot of artifacts or a very
> tinny-sounding audio. My personal belief is that if it sounds filtered,
> you're better off with the noise.
>
> Bruce
> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 18:22:54 +1100, "Dane Trethowan"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> With air conditioner noises and such, it would seem (to me at least)
>> to capture a noise print and work on that rather than set up manual
>> filters.
>>
>> On 04/03/2008, at 4:27 AM, Doc wrote:
>>
>> > Have you tried using the low band pass for those air conditioner
>> > noises?
>> >
>> > **
>> > Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !
>> >
>> >
>> > robert Doc Wright
>> > http://www.wrightplaceinc.net
>> > msn
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>> > Click to call me
>> > http://me.vonage.com/robwright
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>> >
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 8:26 AM
>> > Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>> >
>> >
>> > you can buy the separate plug-in, but like you say, it costs 5 times
>> > as much
>> > as
>> > the goldwave program. the pop and click filter in goldwave works
>> > pretty
>> > good, but
>> > when it comes to removing things like air conditioner noise, or
>> > buzzes, it
>> > could
>> > be improved upon.
>> > goldwave's best asset  is that it is (cheap) you get what you pay for.
>> >
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 2:10 PM
>> > Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>> >
>> >
>> > Yeah ok but Sound Forge (unless I'm wrong these days) is ten times the
>> > price is it not? Let's face it, you "get what you pay for" in some
>> > cases and if you really wanted a better Noise Reduction Plug-in
>> > (assuming that the one from Goldwave is as bad as you say it is) then
>> > it was my understanding that you could buy the Sound Forge Noise
>> > Reduction system as a separate plug-in?
>> >
>> > On 03/03/2008, at 5:05 AM, Gary G Schindler wrote:
>> >
>> >> I expect a noise reduction package to work better than it does, and
>> >> a soundforge
>> >> like editing capability.
>> >>
>> >> - Original Message -
>> >> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> >> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:02 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I've not played with that part yet but really, for $40.00? What do
>> >> you
>> >> expect, its a steal.
>> >>
>> >> On 02/03/2008, at 8:37 PM, Gary G Schindler wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> the biggest complaint I have about Goldwave is that the noise
>> >>> reduction isn't very
>> >>> good at all. Soundforge is much better in this respect. I used to
>> >>> like the Diamond
>> >>> Cut programs for noise reduction too, but for editing fil

Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

[Gary G Schindler]

Dc 6 is a program sold by a company by the name of Tracertek. they sell all 
kinds 
of audio restoration products. the actual name of the program is Diamond Cut 6. 
they have a newer version out now. they also have a new program out now which I 
don't recall the name of, but for $59.00 US dollars you can do vinyl or 
cassette 
tape to compact disc projects. you can clean up files and work on them at any 
time 
or there is a wizard that walks you through the steps from hooking up the 
turntable to turning out the finished disc. I'll bet the noise reduction works 
much better with this program than does goldwaves noise reduction. I have 
always 
liked Tracertek products since the Dart pro 32 days. go to 
http://www.tracertek.com and you will find a plethora of stuff to read about 
and 
buy if you like.
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Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 12:06 AM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


Pardon me but how do you use the editor in what?

On 03/03/2008, at 4:51 AM, Gary G Schindler wrote:

> usually you have to buy the soundforge noise reduction plugin
> separately, I think
> it may be bundled with version 9. How do you use the editor in DC 6?
> - Original Message -
> From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:29 AM
> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>
>
> My biggest knock on Sound Forge is that it is, as others have
> pointed out,
> so overloaded with features that try to be everybody's everything.
> Still, I purchased version 8.0 sometime back and would like to get
> all I can
> from it. Can you tell me where to find its noise reduction features
> and how
> to work with them?
>
> As for DC 6, my only criticism would be the manual's inaccessibility.I
> Haven't had a lot of trouble in getting around the program.
>
> Larry
> - Original Message -
> From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 4:37 AM
> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>
>
> the biggest complaint I have about Goldwave is that the noise
> reduction
> isn't very
> good at all. Soundforge is much better in this respect. I used to
> like the
> Diamond
> Cut programs for noise reduction too, but for editing files for a
> blind
> person was
> and probably still is difficult. if studio recorder from APH had
> some kind
> of
> noise reduction, I might have sprung for it, but it is pricy, so if
> I am
> going to
> shell out money, I'll buy soundforge again. wavepad does some nice
> things
> too, but
> seemed rather limited in what it does do so I quit using it. I
> thought it
> could be
> a little easier to do basic editing functions with it.
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:08 PM
> Subject: Goldwave Audio Editor
>
>
> Ok, well I'm very impressed with this editing package and in a lot of
> ways I believe Goldwave to be more functional and practical than Sound
> Forge ever was or probably is ever likely to be, the layout of the
> manual is very well done and easy to get around.
> I went to the site at http://www.goldwave.com but I couldn't find a
> purchase price anywhere and (to my slight annoyance) it seems that
> Goldwave INC won't take paypal  but if its a fair price then
> I'll save to purchase this.
>
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Re: Converting Itunes files

[Gary G Schindler]

Aren't the ITunes files AAC files? it seems to me that you would have some loss 
converting to MP3 no matter what the bitrate is.

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Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 6:34 PM
Subject: Converting Itunes files


> Hi
> Using Sound Taxi am I right in saying that converting Itunes files, I would 
> be 
> better to use the MP3 320 bit rate setting rather then anything lower, for 
> example 192 which some of the files are downloaded at. I don't suppose it 
> will 
> improve the quality but will it maintain it? (I'm kind of assuming that as 
> Sound 
> Taxi re-records the file that it re-compresses it.) When 320 is claimed by 
> Sound 
> Taxi to be 'Perfect' would it be as good as using the wav conversion? Finally 
> would I just be best to use the wav conversion of the files to maintain the 
> original standard?
> The answer's probably obvious but I just wanted clarification in order to 
> keep 
> the files at the best possible quality.
> Thanks.
> Gordon McFarlane
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Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

[Gary G Schindler]

I have heard some other person on this list have the same problem. It was a 
young 
lady. I remember her stating she had to go back to an earlier version of jaws, 
so 
I figure it is jaws related and not a goldwave problem.
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Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


> you might have to do some more investigating.  I'm using jaws 9 and I'm not
> having any problems with the markers. then again I'm also still using
> goldwave v5.06.  I found I didn't like many of the changes in the later
> versions.
>
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> - Original Message - 
> From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 8:31 AM
> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>
>
>> do the scripts fix a problem with goldwave crashing when using JFW 9? when
>> trying
>> to edit start and finish markers, jaws goes nuts and locks up. in jaws 8
>> everything is fine!
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 2:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>
>>
>>> The scripts aren't necessary, but they do add a great deal of
>>> convenience.
>>>
>>> bruce
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave
>>> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>>>
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>>>
>>> On Mon, 3 Mar 2008, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>>
>>>> Right, well I have to say that I'm surprised you need JAWS scripts
>>>> with the software at all! but I won't comment further because I took
>>>> it off my system in favour of a freely available Screen Reader which
>>>> works remarkably well with every application I've run it past thus far
>>>> but that's not all that much these days as Windows isn't my main
>>>> operating system.
>>>>
>>>> On 03/03/2008, at 12:54 AM, TrueBlue & Proud wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dane,
>>>>> and the jaws scripts work wonderfully well,
>>>>> Billy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 3:08 AM
>>>>> Subject: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok, well I'm very impressed with this editing package and in a lot of
>>>>> ways I believe Goldwave to be more functional and practical than Sound
>>>>> Forge ever was or probably is ever likely to be, the layout of the
>>>>> manual is very well done and easy to get around.
>>>>> I went to the site at http://www.goldwave.com but I couldn't find a
>>>>> purchase price anywhere and (to my slight annoyance) it seems that
>>>>> Goldwave INC won't take paypal  but if its a fair price then
>>>>> I'll save to purchase this.
>>>>>
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Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

[Gary G Schindler]

Chris, I like wave pad, the noise reduction works quite well in wave pad. much 
better than in Goldwave. I thought that it normalized files better also.

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Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


Hi Gary,
Try Wave Pad.
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Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 1:05 PM
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I expect a noise reduction package to work better than it does, and a
soundforge
like editing capability.

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From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


I've not played with that part yet but really, for $40.00? What do you
expect, its a steal.

On 02/03/2008, at 8:37 PM, Gary G Schindler wrote:

> the biggest complaint I have about Goldwave is that the noise
> reduction isn't very
> good at all. Soundforge is much better in this respect. I used to
> like the Diamond
> Cut programs for noise reduction too, but for editing files for a
> blind person was
> and probably still is difficult. if studio recorder from APH had
> some kind of
> noise reduction, I might have sprung for it, but it is pricy, so if
> I am going to
> shell out money, I'll buy soundforge again. wavepad does some nice
> things too, but
> seemed rather limited in what it does do so I quit using it. I
> thought it could be
> a little easier to do basic editing functions with it.
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:08 PM
> Subject: Goldwave Audio Editor
>
>
> Ok, well I'm very impressed with this editing package and in a lot of
> ways I believe Goldwave to be more functional and practical than Sound
> Forge ever was or probably is ever likely to be, the layout of the
> manual is very well done and easy to get around.
> I went to the site at http://www.goldwave.com but I couldn't find a
> purchase price anywhere and (to my slight annoyance) it seems that
> Goldwave INC won't take paypal  but if its a fair price then
> I'll save to purchase this.
>
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Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

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Frankly I like wave pad. to me it does a better job  of normalizing than 
goldwave. 
the only thing I would like is for the equalizer to be more acdessible in wave 
pad. I dont recall any noise reduction in Audacity, so it must be an addition 
to 
it since I checked it out.

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Hi Gary,
Try Wave Pad.
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I expect a noise reduction package to work better than it does, and a
soundforge
like editing capability.

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From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


I've not played with that part yet but really, for $40.00? What do you
expect, its a steal.

On 02/03/2008, at 8:37 PM, Gary G Schindler wrote:

> the biggest complaint I have about Goldwave is that the noise
> reduction isn't very
> good at all. Soundforge is much better in this respect. I used to
> like the Diamond
> Cut programs for noise reduction too, but for editing files for a
> blind person was
> and probably still is difficult. if studio recorder from APH had
> some kind of
> noise reduction, I might have sprung for it, but it is pricy, so if
> I am going to
> shell out money, I'll buy soundforge again. wavepad does some nice
> things too, but
> seemed rather limited in what it does do so I quit using it. I
> thought it could be
> a little easier to do basic editing functions with it.
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
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> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:08 PM
> Subject: Goldwave Audio Editor
>
>
> Ok, well I'm very impressed with this editing package and in a lot of
> ways I believe Goldwave to be more functional and practical than Sound
> Forge ever was or probably is ever likely to be, the layout of the
> manual is very well done and easy to get around.
> I went to the site at http://www.goldwave.com but I couldn't find a
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Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

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the streamline of soundforge without the noise reduction costs the same as 
goldwave. to me it is  much easier to work with than goldwafe. by the way, I 
had 
to pay $55.00 for my goldwave license, and the streamline version of soundforge 
is 
roughly $5.00 more.

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Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:50 PM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


I don't really see the issue here to be honest. People have stated on
this list that they do various editing tasks with Goldwave and as far
as I can see from reading the manual and from the brief play I've had
with the software, there is no reason whatever why you shouldn't get a
professional sounding edit out of Goldwave.
As to how well the Noise Reduction stuff works? Well I don't know as I
haven't tried bit but even suppose it didn't work as well as I'd
hoped, you do get what you pay for so given that Goldwave is as cheap
as chips then I personally wouldn't have any trouble paying for a
better noise reduction plug-in or whatever.

On 03/03/2008, at 8:17 AM, Gary G Schindler wrote:

> you can use other programs, but that isn't the point. if you are to
> do a
> professional recording, you want a good all around program that does
> everything
> well instead of several programs taking up unnecessary hard drive
> space. frankly I
> guess it is a matter of preference. If I were a professional I
> wouldn't use
> goldwave anyway!

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Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

[Gary G Schindler]

I wouldn't push goldwave as a professional audio editor, powerful yes, 
professional no. your example of Amadeus Pro is an excellent example of what 
can 
be done at an affordable price.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 2:30 AM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


That's been my point all along, you get what you pay for. Yes ok,
Amadeus Pro at $40.00 has some really excellent noise reduction stuff
which is comparible to the competition but even supposing Amadeus Pro
didn't have these excellent noise removal tools? Well in my view, the
software would still be an absolute bargain, GoldWave and Amadeus Pro
are advertised as "audio editors" and where does it say anywhere that
Noise reduction has to be part of an audio editor?
As I and others have said before, the great thing about Goldwave,
Amadeus Pro, Sound Forge, Total Recorder, Sonar and others is that you
can use other plug-ins with the product so if you don't like what
Goldwave has to offer in the form of Noise Reduction, Graphic EQ or
whatever then by all means! by a third party plug-in to solve the
problem and (strange as it may seem) if you buy Goldwave then you
certainly are given a lot of change to purchase other plug-ins .
I myself use a lot of Third Party plug-ins, I used them with Sound
Gorge but now I'll most likely be using them with Goldwave as I found
them to be far more accessible with a screen reader, I detailed them
before some time ago on this list, a whole heap of equalisers,
filters, flangers, echo units, compressors and the like which (once
again) are absolutely compatible with anything which will handle direx
plug-ins.

On 03/03/2008, at 12:35 PM, constantine (on laptop) wrote:

> So seriously, I'm finding this a bit insulting. You expect gold
> wave, priced
> at 29 bucks, to do what sound forge does huh? Well, sound forge is
> about 400
> plus, and honestly, only a millionare could afford it. Not to
> mention, if
> you don't like gw's noise reduction features, use audacity, as
> someone on
> here already stated, its features in terms of noise reduction are
> better
> than gw.
>
>
> Have a good day from Tyler C. Wood!
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> - Original Message -
> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 1:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>
>
> Yeah ok but Sound Forge (unless I'm wrong these days) is ten times the
> price is it not? Let's face it, you "get what you pay for" in some
> cases and if you really wanted a better Noise Reduction Plug-in
> (assuming that the one from Goldwave is as bad as you say it is) then
> it was my understanding that you could buy the Sound Forge Noise
> Reduction system as a separate plug-in?
>
> On 03/03/2008, at 5:05 AM, Gary G Schindler wrote:
>
>> I expect a noise reduction package to work better than it does, and
>> a soundforge
>> like editing capability.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:02 AM
>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>
>>
>> I've not played with that part yet but really, for $40.00? What do
>> you
>> expect, its a steal.
>>
>> On 02/03/2008, at 8:37 PM, Gary G Schindler wrote:
>>
>>> the biggest complaint I have about Goldwave is that the noise
>>> reduction isn't very
>>> good at all. Soundforge is much better in this respect. I used to
>>> like the Diamond
>>> Cut programs for noise reduction too, but for editing files for a
>>> blind person was
>>> and probably still is difficult. if studio recorder from APH had
>>> some kind of
>>> noise reduction, I might have sprung for it, but it is pricy, so if
>>> I am going to
>>> shell out money, I'll buy soundforge again. wavepad does some nice
>>> things too, but
>>> seemed rather limited in what it does do so I quit using it. I
>>> thought it could be
>>> a little easier to do basic editing functions with it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To:

Re: MLB game day audio and BrailleSense

[Gary G Schindler]

I was able to listen to the Phillies and Pirates successfully yesterday. 
everything is back to normal now. the only thing worth mentioning is I lost my 
feed when browsing to another site on the internet. I was looking at some 
podcasts 
and my window disappeared thus my audio was gone. I do wish when the ball clubs 
do 
webcasts, I wish the audio wouldn't sound so damn cheap. you gave a nice 
description of the various broadcast links.

- Original Message - 
From: "Kane Brolin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: MLB game day audio and BrailleSense


> On 3/2/08, Gary G Schindler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I am glad you brought up the silver lite thing. somehow I was able to go
>> back and choose the classic media player.
>
> I heard from a tech support rep at Freedom Scientific today.  He
> affirms that, as far as he knows, SilverLight is not accessible to
> JAWS.  In fact, the program might have been developed specifically so
> that only a mouse could invoke the SilverLight player.  (Thanks again
> for your "sensitivity" to access issues, Microsoft!)
>>
>> When I tried the silverlight thing, I was
>> told something about doing maintenance and to try later which didn't make 
>> sense
>> at the time when I wanted to listen to a live ball game.
>
> Gary, I got that same message after switching from the SilverLight
> player to the classic media player and trying to listen to a game this
> past Friday.  However, today I received some positive results: I
> loaded the GameDay Audio page, chose a feed I wanted to hear, logged
> in with my password, and realized that Internet Explorer had
> remembered my preference for the classic media player.  I didn't have
> to select it again.  And after getting past the security prompts, the
> game played just fine and with much better and more consistent audio
> quality than I had remembered from 2007.
>>
>> somehow I thought that I may have clicked on the TV feed by accident.
>
> During spring training, interestingly enough, some of those TV feeds
> actually are viewable by those who haven't paid the $14.99/month--or
> whatever it is--to watch the live TV games.  MLB.com makes those
> available to us as a promotional thing, of course, so that people who
> benefit from the visuals will buy the MLB video package.  You probably
> know that you can opt for a certain home team or road team audio feed
> just by clicking on the name of the flagship station where the program
> airs in the radio world.  For instance, I caught part of the St.
> Louis-Washington game earlier today and was able to go straight to it
> by clicking on the link labeled WWWT, which is the name of the
> Washington Nationals' flagship station this season.  Usually the video
> feeds, while not named after a station, are named by the type or speed
> of the Web stream: such as 750K or 400K.
> Happy listening.  Play ball!
>
> -Kane
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "KANE BROLIN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 5:51 PM
>> Subject: Re: MLB game day audio and BrailleSense
>>
>>
>> > HHi, Gary and others.
>> >
>> > I've run MLB's GameDay Audio on a PC for ten years now. Just this year,
>> > I've discovered that MLB tends now to play most of its multimedia content
>> > inside a Microsoft SilverLight frame--somewhat somilar to an Adobe Flash
>> > Player frame, except it's Microsoft's proprietary flash player. Even on a
>> > PC, this causes lots of problems if one is totally without eyesight and
>> > running a screen reader, because JAWS does not seem to recognize or allow
>> me
>> > to invoke any of the buttons inside of the SilverLight frame with the
>> > keyboard. I've brought up this issue on the PC Audio Discussion List
>> > previously, and I've presented it to JAWS Tech Support too. No answer as
>> > yet.
>> >
>> > You do have the option sometimes to make MLB's site honor your preference
>> of
>> > going back to their "classic" media player, which seems to be just Windows
>> > Media Player running inside a separate IE window. This works as long as
>> > MLB's multimedia sites are up and runnning.
>> >
>> > All this might cause a problem with Braille Sense. But since I've not
>> used
>> > a Braille Sense before, I regr3ettably can't help you there.
>> >
>> > -Kane
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> 

Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

[Gary G Schindler]

Doc,that works sometimes, but I just don't like the noise reduction filter in 
goldwave. you should be able to take a noise print and it should take care of 
the 
offending noise problem without having to finagle with low pass filters or 
parametric equalizers.
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Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


Have you tried using the low band pass for those air conditioner noises?

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From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 8:26 AM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


you can buy the separate plug-in, but like you say, it costs 5 times as much
as
the goldwave program. the pop and click filter in goldwave works pretty
good, but
when it comes to removing things like air conditioner noise, or buzzes, it
could
be improved upon.
goldwave's best asset  is that it is (cheap) you get what you pay for.

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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


Yeah ok but Sound Forge (unless I'm wrong these days) is ten times the
price is it not? Let's face it, you "get what you pay for" in some
cases and if you really wanted a better Noise Reduction Plug-in
(assuming that the one from Goldwave is as bad as you say it is) then
it was my understanding that you could buy the Sound Forge Noise
Reduction system as a separate plug-in?

On 03/03/2008, at 5:05 AM, Gary G Schindler wrote:

> I expect a noise reduction package to work better than it does, and
> a soundforge
> like editing capability.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:02 AM
> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>
>
> I've not played with that part yet but really, for $40.00? What do you
> expect, its a steal.
>
> On 02/03/2008, at 8:37 PM, Gary G Schindler wrote:
>
>> the biggest complaint I have about Goldwave is that the noise
>> reduction isn't very
>> good at all. Soundforge is much better in this respect. I used to
>> like the Diamond
>> Cut programs for noise reduction too, but for editing files for a
>> blind person was
>> and probably still is difficult. if studio recorder from APH had
>> some kind of
>> noise reduction, I might have sprung for it, but it is pricy, so if
>> I am going to
>> shell out money, I'll buy soundforge again. wavepad does some nice
>> things too, but
>> seemed rather limited in what it does do so I quit using it. I
>> thought it could be
>> a little easier to do basic editing functions with it.
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:08 PM
>> Subject: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>
>>
>> Ok, well I'm very impressed with this editing package and in a lot of
>> ways I believe Goldwave to be more functional and practical than
>> Sound
>> Forge ever was or probably is ever likely to be, the layout of the
>> manual is very well done and easy to get around.
>> I went to the site at http://www.goldwave.com but I couldn't find a
>> purchase price anywhere and (to my slight annoyance) it seems that
>> Goldwave INC won't take paypal  but if its a fair price then
>> I'll save to purchase this.
>>
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Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

[Gary G Schindler]

do the scripts fix a problem with goldwave crashing when using JFW 9? when 
trying 
to edit start and finish markers, jaws goes nuts and locks up. in jaws 8 
everything is fine!

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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


> The scripts aren't necessary, but they do add a great deal of convenience.
>
> bruce
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> On Mon, 3 Mar 2008, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>
>> Right, well I have to say that I'm surprised you need JAWS scripts
>> with the software at all! but I won't comment further because I took
>> it off my system in favour of a freely available Screen Reader which
>> works remarkably well with every application I've run it past thus far
>> but that's not all that much these days as Windows isn't my main
>> operating system.
>>
>> On 03/03/2008, at 12:54 AM, TrueBlue & Proud wrote:
>>
>>> Dane,
>>> and the jaws scripts work wonderfully well,
>>> Billy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
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>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 3:08 AM
>>> Subject: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>>
>>>
>>> Ok, well I'm very impressed with this editing package and in a lot of
>>> ways I believe Goldwave to be more functional and practical than Sound
>>> Forge ever was or probably is ever likely to be, the layout of the
>>> manual is very well done and easy to get around.
>>> I went to the site at http://www.goldwave.com but I couldn't find a
>>> purchase price anywhere and (to my slight annoyance) it seems that
>>> Goldwave INC won't take paypal  but if its a fair price then
>>> I'll save to purchase this.
>>>
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Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

[Gary G Schindler]

you can buy the separate plug-in, but like you say, it costs 5 times as much as 
the goldwave program. the pop and click filter in goldwave works pretty good, 
but 
when it comes to removing things like air conditioner noise, or buzzes, it 
could 
be improved upon.
goldwave's best asset  is that it is (cheap) you get what you pay for.

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From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


Yeah ok but Sound Forge (unless I'm wrong these days) is ten times the
price is it not? Let's face it, you "get what you pay for" in some
cases and if you really wanted a better Noise Reduction Plug-in
(assuming that the one from Goldwave is as bad as you say it is) then
it was my understanding that you could buy the Sound Forge Noise
Reduction system as a separate plug-in?

On 03/03/2008, at 5:05 AM, Gary G Schindler wrote:

> I expect a noise reduction package to work better than it does, and
> a soundforge
> like editing capability.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:02 AM
> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>
>
> I've not played with that part yet but really, for $40.00? What do you
> expect, its a steal.
>
> On 02/03/2008, at 8:37 PM, Gary G Schindler wrote:
>
>> the biggest complaint I have about Goldwave is that the noise
>> reduction isn't very
>> good at all. Soundforge is much better in this respect. I used to
>> like the Diamond
>> Cut programs for noise reduction too, but for editing files for a
>> blind person was
>> and probably still is difficult. if studio recorder from APH had
>> some kind of
>> noise reduction, I might have sprung for it, but it is pricy, so if
>> I am going to
>> shell out money, I'll buy soundforge again. wavepad does some nice
>> things too, but
>> seemed rather limited in what it does do so I quit using it. I
>> thought it could be
>> a little easier to do basic editing functions with it.
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:08 PM
>> Subject: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>
>>
>> Ok, well I'm very impressed with this editing package and in a lot of
>> ways I believe Goldwave to be more functional and practical than
>> Sound
>> Forge ever was or probably is ever likely to be, the layout of the
>> manual is very well done and easy to get around.
>> I went to the site at http://www.goldwave.com but I couldn't find a
>> purchase price anywhere and (to my slight annoyance) it seems that
>> Goldwave INC won't take paypal  but if its a fair price then
>> I'll save to purchase this.
>>
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Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

[Gary G Schindler]

frankly you couldn't get a program to be any easier than soundforge. godwave to 
me 
is cumbersome to work with even though you get the job done, but like you say, 
it 
is a matter of preference.
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Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


> I've tried Sound Forge's editing, and I'm sure it's wonderful, but I
> personally, and this is strictly personal preference, prefer Gold Wave's
> method of editing.
>
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> On Sun, 2 Mar 2008, Gary G Schindler wrote:
>
>> I expect a noise reduction package to work better than it does, and a 
>> soundforge
>> like editing capability.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:02 AM
>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>
>>
>> I've not played with that part yet but really, for $40.00? What do you
>> expect, its a steal.
>>
>> On 02/03/2008, at 8:37 PM, Gary G Schindler wrote:
>>
>>> the biggest complaint I have about Goldwave is that the noise
>>> reduction isn't very
>>> good at all. Soundforge is much better in this respect. I used to
>>> like the Diamond
>>> Cut programs for noise reduction too, but for editing files for a
>>> blind person was
>>> and probably still is difficult. if studio recorder from APH had
>>> some kind of
>>> noise reduction, I might have sprung for it, but it is pricy, so if
>>> I am going to
>>> shell out money, I'll buy soundforge again. wavepad does some nice
>>> things too, but
>>> seemed rather limited in what it does do so I quit using it. I
>>> thought it could be
>>> a little easier to do basic editing functions with it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:08 PM
>>> Subject: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>>
>>>
>>> Ok, well I'm very impressed with this editing package and in a lot of
>>> ways I believe Goldwave to be more functional and practical than Sound
>>> Forge ever was or probably is ever likely to be, the layout of the
>>> manual is very well done and easy to get around.
>>> I went to the site at http://www.goldwave.com but I couldn't find a
>>> purchase price anywhere and (to my slight annoyance) it seems that
>>> Goldwave INC won't take paypal  but if its a fair price then
>>> I'll save to purchase this.
>>>
>>> **
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Re: looking for a stand-alone soft e q.

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I think he means a piece of software specifically for equalization.

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> Software equalizer probably.
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>> High Albert,
>> The letters E-Q means equalizer.
>> I just don't know what he means by using the word soft.
>>  John.
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>>> Here's the deal:  I have my cable box  sending audio to my delta 
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>>> which works fine.  The problem is, that I have a Q-Bass USB audio headset
>>> and I would like to bridge the Delta soundcard to the Q-Bass headset 
>>> while
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 Please clearify what you mean when you say stand alone soft E-Q.
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Re: more GW?

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you have to create a whole new sound window to paste the vocal track in to it. 
then find the proper place you want to place the music to coincide with the 
vocal, 
save it with whatever file name you like.

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> hi guys,
> I'm very new to goldwave. I'm trying to record a vocal over a piece of music
> using goldwave.
> I realise this is not the best, but I have only at the moment an on-board
> sound card.
>
> What is happening. I import the piece of music into goldwave, and then start
> to play the music track, then press the control + f9 key for record, but
> nothing records.
> Even when i try to just record my own voice in goldwave. My speech reader
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Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

[Gary G Schindler]

you are right, but I would rather by the right program in the first place and 
use 
plug-ing that are written for it. that is my preference.
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Yes I understand that. But with plugins you can add functuionality to
programs that you already like. As blind people we have to sometimes  try
other things as work arounds and plugins are a good way to do that without
scrapping your favorite program for a feature or two. Am I right on this
point? What do you think.
bb

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Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 2:17 PM
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you can use other programs, but that isn't the point. if you are to do a
professional recording, you want a good all around program that does
everything
well instead of several programs taking up unnecessary hard drive space.
frankly I
guess it is a matter of preference. If I were a professional I wouldn't use
goldwave anyway!

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Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 2:20 PM
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Can't you use better plugins? For noise reduction or do you have to use the
built-in stuff.
bb
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Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 2:37 AM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


the biggest complaint I have about Goldwave is that the noise reduction
isn't very
good at all. Soundforge is much better in this respect. I used to like the
Diamond
Cut programs for noise reduction too, but for editing files for a blind
person was
and probably still is difficult. if studio recorder from APH had some kind
of
noise reduction, I might have sprung for it, but it is pricy, so if I am
going to
shell out money, I'll buy soundforge again. wavepad does some nice things
too, but
seemed rather limited in what it does do so I quit using it. I thought it
could be
a little easier to do basic editing functions with it.



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Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:08 PM
Subject: Goldwave Audio Editor


Ok, well I'm very impressed with this editing package and in a lot of
ways I believe Goldwave to be more functional and practical than Sound
Forge ever was or probably is ever likely to be, the layout of the
manual is very well done and easy to get around.
I went to the site at http://www.goldwave.com but I couldn't find a
purchase price anywhere and (to my slight annoyance) it seems that
Goldwave INC won't take paypal  but if its a fair price then
I'll save to purchase this.

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Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

[Gary G Schindler]

usually you have to buy the soundforge noise reduction plugin separately, I 
think 
it may be bundled with version 9. How do you use the editor in DC 6?
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Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


My biggest knock on Sound Forge is that it is, as others have pointed out,
so overloaded with features that try to be everybody's everything.
Still, I purchased version 8.0 sometime back and would like to get all I can
from it. Can you tell me where to find its noise reduction features and how
to work with them?

As for DC 6, my only criticism would be the manual's inaccessibility.I
Haven't had a lot of trouble in getting around the program.

Larry
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Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 4:37 AM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


the biggest complaint I have about Goldwave is that the noise reduction
isn't very
good at all. Soundforge is much better in this respect. I used to like the
Diamond
Cut programs for noise reduction too, but for editing files for a blind
person was
and probably still is difficult. if studio recorder from APH had some kind
of
noise reduction, I might have sprung for it, but it is pricy, so if I am
going to
shell out money, I'll buy soundforge again. wavepad does some nice things
too, but
seemed rather limited in what it does do so I quit using it. I thought it
could be
a little easier to do basic editing functions with it.



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Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:08 PM
Subject: Goldwave Audio Editor


Ok, well I'm very impressed with this editing package and in a lot of
ways I believe Goldwave to be more functional and practical than Sound
Forge ever was or probably is ever likely to be, the layout of the
manual is very well done and easy to get around.
I went to the site at http://www.goldwave.com but I couldn't find a
purchase price anywhere and (to my slight annoyance) it seems that
Goldwave INC won't take paypal  but if its a fair price then
I'll save to purchase this.

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Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

[Gary G Schindler]

simply take the time to put your thoughts together, explain what you did to 
achieve good results, make an MP3 of it with examples. as for the use of the 
word 
amateur, let us say the English language tends to have to many definitions for 
the same word.

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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


> An amateur is someone who does not make a living doing something. I
> believe it's a very safe assumption that most people on this list, though
> they may be very good at audio editing, do not get paid professionally to
> do it, hence my use of the word amateur.
>
> I would do a tutorial, but I am not a tutorial person, nor have I ever
> claimed to be.
> Bruce
>
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> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>
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>
> On Sun, 2 Mar 2008, Gary G Schindler wrote:
>
>> Goldwave is good for what it is and what is does. for most things it gets 
>> the 
>> job
>> done. what I would like is for someone who has successfully tweaked goldwaves
>> noise reduction could do a tutorial and provide some samples, put your best 
>> effort
>> forward and demonstrate how good the goldwave noise reduction could be 
>> instad 
>> of
>> assuming people are ameturs when you don't know for sure. in short, everyone 
>> has
>> there own likes and dislikes  of various programs. some people have a fancy 
>> for
>> appole pie, while others like chocolate cake. then again, if people really 
>> cared
>> about good quality broadcasts, they wouldn't use cell phones or cheap phone 
>> lines
>> to do sportscasting or mobile news reporting from the field with all the 
>> great
>> technology we have today.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 1:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>
>>
>> You won't get me saying anything apart from what I've already said,
>> with a product so reasonably priced is it such an issue anyway?
>>
>> On 03/03/2008, at 4:46 AM, Gary G Schindler wrote:
>>
>>> Frankly I have never herard anyone say anything good about the noise
>>> reduction in
>>> goldwave.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 8:42 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>>
>>>
>>>> I've found, and this is only my personal experience, that if one
>>>> knows
>>>> what one is doing, the noise reduction on Gold Wave can be every
>>>> bit as
>>>> good as that with Sound Forge ... or bad, depending on how you look
>>>> at it.
>>>> I'm not a believer in noise reduction by amateurs with any program,
>>>> and
>>>> that includes me.
>>>>
>>>> Bruce
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>>>> gave
>>>> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>>>>
>>>> Bruce Toews
>>>> Skype ID: o.canada
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>>>> LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
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>>>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 2 Mar 2008, Gary G Schindler wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> the biggest complaint I have about Goldwave is that the noise
>>>>> reduction isn't
>>>>> very
>>>>> good at all. Soundforge is much better in this respect. I used to
>>>>> like the
>>>>> Diamond
>>>>> Cut programs for noise reduction too, but for editing files for a
>>>>> blind person
>>>>> was
>>>>> and probably still is difficult. if studio recorder from APH had
>>

Re: MLB game day audio and BrailleSense

[Gary G Schindler]

I am glad you brought up the silver lite thing. somehow I was able to go back 
and 
choose the classic media player. when I tried the silverlight thing, I was told 
something about doing maintenance and to try later which didn't make sense at 
the 
time when I wanted to listen to a live ball game. somehow I thought that I may 
have clicked on the TV feed by accident.

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Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: MLB game day audio and BrailleSense


> HHi, Gary and others.
>
> I've run MLB's GameDay Audio on a PC for ten years now.  Just this year,
> I've discovered that MLB tends now to play most of its multimedia content
> inside a Microsoft SilverLight frame--somewhat somilar to an Adobe Flash
> Player frame, except it's Microsoft's proprietary flash player.  Even on a
> PC, this causes lots of problems if one is totally without eyesight and
> running a screen reader, because JAWS does not seem to recognize or allow me
> to invoke any of the buttons inside of the SilverLight frame with the
> keyboard.  I've brought up this issue on the PC Audio Discussion List
> previously, and I've presented it to JAWS Tech Support too.  No answer as
> yet.
>
> You do have the option sometimes to make MLB's site honor your preference of
> going back to their "classic" media player, which seems to be just Windows
> Media Player running inside a separate IE window.  This works as long as
> MLB's multimedia sites are up and runnning.
>
> All this might cause a problem with Braille Sense.  But since I've not used
> a Braille Sense before, I regr3ettably can't help you there.
>
> -Kane
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Re: The removal of beautiful noise

[Gary G Schindler]

this is why I am going to consider buy a mac if possible in a few months.

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Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 2:03 PM
Subject: The removal of beautiful noise


Now I'm glad we're talking about noise reduction and noise removal as
I've found a most useful tool in this game in amadeus Pro which makes
the penciling of crackles just about accessible to the blind user so I
don't need sighted assistance when doing this any longer, here's how
it works.
You're playing or skimming through a track and you hear a pop, crackle
or such like? Stop the playback immediately after you hear the noise
and press "p", this makes a selection round the noise and you can
press "shift-P" to play back the noise as though it were pencilled
out, if you don't like it then press "command-z" to undo what you've
done, adjust further settings in preferences so how neat is that? The
selection around the sound for pencilling is about a quarter of a
second but this can be changed in preferences.

On 03/03/2008, at 5:10 AM, Gary G Schindler wrote:

> I agree with you. it is best to have a sighted person redraw the
> wave form. most
> of the younger people probably don't do vinyl restoration like I do
> so they don't
> care about noise reduction.

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Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

[Gary G Schindler]

Goldwave is good for what it is and what is does. for most things it gets the 
job 
done. what I would like is for someone who has successfully tweaked goldwaves 
noise reduction could do a tutorial and provide some samples, put your best 
effort 
forward and demonstrate how good the goldwave noise reduction could be instad 
of 
assuming people are ameturs when you don't know for sure. in short, everyone 
has 
there own likes and dislikes  of various programs. some people have a fancy for 
appole pie, while others like chocolate cake. then again, if people really 
cared 
about good quality broadcasts, they wouldn't use cell phones or cheap phone 
lines 
to do sportscasting or mobile news reporting from the field with all the great 
technology we have today.

- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


You won't get me saying anything apart from what I've already said,
with a product so reasonably priced is it such an issue anyway?

On 03/03/2008, at 4:46 AM, Gary G Schindler wrote:

> Frankly I have never herard anyone say anything good about the noise
> reduction in
> goldwave.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 8:42 AM
> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>
>
>> I've found, and this is only my personal experience, that if one
>> knows
>> what one is doing, the noise reduction on Gold Wave can be every
>> bit as
>> good as that with Sound Forge ... or bad, depending on how you look
>> at it.
>> I'm not a believer in noise reduction by amateurs with any program,
>> and
>> that includes me.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>> -- 
>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>> gave
>> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>>
>> Bruce Toews
>> Skype ID: o.canada
>> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
>> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>>
>> On Sun, 2 Mar 2008, Gary G Schindler wrote:
>>
>>> the biggest complaint I have about Goldwave is that the noise
>>> reduction isn't
>>> very
>>> good at all. Soundforge is much better in this respect. I used to
>>> like the
>>> Diamond
>>> Cut programs for noise reduction too, but for editing files for a
>>> blind person
>>> was
>>> and probably still is difficult. if studio recorder from APH had
>>> some kind of
>>> noise reduction, I might have sprung for it, but it is pricy, so
>>> if I am going
>>> to
>>> shell out money, I'll buy soundforge again. wavepad does some nice
>>> things too,
>>> but
>>> seemed rather limited in what it does do so I quit using it. I
>>> thought it could
>>> be
>>> a little easier to do basic editing functions with it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:08 PM
>>> Subject: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>>
>>>
>>> Ok, well I'm very impressed with this editing package and in a lot
>>> of
>>> ways I believe Goldwave to be more functional and practical than
>>> Sound
>>> Forge ever was or probably is ever likely to be, the layout of the
>>> manual is very well done and easy to get around.
>>> I went to the site at http://www.goldwave.com but I couldn't find a
>>> purchase price anywhere and (to my slight annoyance) it seems that
>>> Goldwave INC won't take paypal  but if its a fair price then
>>> I'll save to purchase this.
>>>
>>> **
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>>> From Melton Victoria Australia
>>> Phone +613 9747 3975
>>> Voiceover Tech Support +613 8732 9237
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Re: Goldwave Tutorial

[Gary G Schindler]

Rick's tutorials are excellent. I listen to everyone's tutorials even though I 
may 
think I am proficient with a program, for I might learn a new technique or a 
better way of doing things that I might not know about.

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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Tutorial


> I've heard nothing but good things about Rick Harmon's tutorial from
> www.blind-geek-zone.net. I haven't heard the tutorial myself, as I was
> already a proficient GW user by the time it came out, but as I say, I've
> heard nothing but good things about this tutorial.
>
> Bruce
>
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>
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>>
>> I recently purchased Goldwave.  I have also downloaded and installed the 
>> manual; however, I would like to get my hands on a tutorial or book for 
>> Goldwave similar to what Jonathan Mosen did on Soundforge years ago.  I 
>> definitely learned from this type of tutorial, as it contains a live do it 
>> and 
>> show format for Soundforge.  Such a tutorial on Goldwave would get me 
>> started 
>> on using the program.  I'm looking for a step-by-step approach (start to 
>> finish).  Any info on podcasts on the topic would also be useful.
>>
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Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

[Gary G Schindler]

you can use other programs, but that isn't the point. if you are to do a 
professional recording, you want a good all around program that does everything 
well instead of several programs taking up unnecessary hard drive space. 
frankly I 
guess it is a matter of preference. If I were a professional I wouldn't use 
goldwave anyway!

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


Can't you use better plugins? For noise reduction or do you have to use the
built-in stuff.
bb
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From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 2:37 AM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


the biggest complaint I have about Goldwave is that the noise reduction
isn't very
good at all. Soundforge is much better in this respect. I used to like the
Diamond
Cut programs for noise reduction too, but for editing files for a blind
person was
and probably still is difficult. if studio recorder from APH had some kind
of
noise reduction, I might have sprung for it, but it is pricy, so if I am
going to
shell out money, I'll buy soundforge again. wavepad does some nice things
too, but
seemed rather limited in what it does do so I quit using it. I thought it
could be
a little easier to do basic editing functions with it.



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Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:08 PM
Subject: Goldwave Audio Editor


Ok, well I'm very impressed with this editing package and in a lot of
ways I believe Goldwave to be more functional and practical than Sound
Forge ever was or probably is ever likely to be, the layout of the
manual is very well done and easy to get around.
I went to the site at http://www.goldwave.com but I couldn't find a
purchase price anywhere and (to my slight annoyance) it seems that
Goldwave INC won't take paypal  but if its a fair price then
I'll save to purchase this.

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Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

[Gary G Schindler]

I expect a noise reduction package to work better than it does, and a 
soundforge 
like editing capability.

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Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


I've not played with that part yet but really, for $40.00? What do you
expect, its a steal.

On 02/03/2008, at 8:37 PM, Gary G Schindler wrote:

> the biggest complaint I have about Goldwave is that the noise
> reduction isn't very
> good at all. Soundforge is much better in this respect. I used to
> like the Diamond
> Cut programs for noise reduction too, but for editing files for a
> blind person was
> and probably still is difficult. if studio recorder from APH had
> some kind of
> noise reduction, I might have sprung for it, but it is pricy, so if
> I am going to
> shell out money, I'll buy soundforge again. wavepad does some nice
> things too, but
> seemed rather limited in what it does do so I quit using it. I
> thought it could be
> a little easier to do basic editing functions with it.
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:08 PM
> Subject: Goldwave Audio Editor
>
>
> Ok, well I'm very impressed with this editing package and in a lot of
> ways I believe Goldwave to be more functional and practical than Sound
> Forge ever was or probably is ever likely to be, the layout of the
> manual is very well done and easy to get around.
> I went to the site at http://www.goldwave.com but I couldn't find a
> purchase price anywhere and (to my slight annoyance) it seems that
> Goldwave INC won't take paypal  but if its a fair price then
> I'll save to purchase this.
>
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Re: Noise Reduction plug-ins

[Gary G Schindler]

I agree with you. it is best to have a sighted person redraw the wave form. 
most 
of the younger people probably don't do vinyl restoration like I do so they 
don't 
care about noise reduction.

- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:17 AM
Subject: Noise Reduction plug-ins


I've only ever really seriously used noise reduction plug-ins to
remove hiss or constant noise through capturing a noise print, all
I've tried thus far (and these include the offerings from Sound Forge,
Total Recorder and Amadeus Pro) have done an excellent job at this task.
When it comes to more difficult noise removal? Well (and again this is
my experience) I've found I get better results when I got a sighted
friend to "pencil" in the various noises and remove them manually.

On 03/03/2008, at 12:42 AM, Bruce Toews wrote:

> I've found, and this is only my personal experience, that if one knows
> what one is doing, the noise reduction on Gold Wave can be every bit
> as
> good as that with Sound Forge ... or bad, depending on how you look
> at it.
> I'm not a believer in noise reduction by amateurs with any program,
> and
> that includes me.
>
> Bruce
>
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> On Sun, 2 Mar 2008, Gary G Schindler wrote:
>
>> the biggest complaint I have about Goldwave is that the noise
>> reduction isn't very
>> good at all. Soundforge is much better in this respect. I used to
>> like the Diamond
>> Cut programs for noise reduction too, but for editing files for a
>> blind person was
>> and probably still is difficult. if studio recorder from APH had
>> some kind of
>> noise reduction, I might have sprung for it, but it is pricy, so if
>> I am going to
>> shell out money, I'll buy soundforge again. wavepad does some nice
>> things too, but
>> seemed rather limited in what it does do so I quit using it. I
>> thought it could be
>> a little easier to do basic editing functions with it.
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:08 PM
>> Subject: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>
>>
>> Ok, well I'm very impressed with this editing package and in a lot of
>> ways I believe Goldwave to be more functional and practical than
>> Sound
>> Forge ever was or probably is ever likely to be, the layout of the
>> manual is very well done and easy to get around.
>> I went to the site at http://www.goldwave.com but I couldn't find a
>> purchase price anywhere and (to my slight annoyance) it seems that
>> Goldwave INC won't take paypal  but if its a fair price then
>> I'll save to purchase this.
>>
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Re: Braille Sense and game day audio?

[Gary G Schindler]

give it a try, you just need to have a paid subscription, an email address 
which 
you have.

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Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: Braille Sense and game day audio?


> Gary, it has a media player but since it operates running Windows CE,
> I don't know what version it is.  I run game day audio on my pc, regularly.
>
> earlier, Gary G Schindler, wrote:
>
>>does the Braile sense have windows media player? you have to log in
>>with an email
>>address before you get the stream.
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "John Schwery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: 
>>Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 9:53 AM
>>Subject: Braille Sense and game day audio?
>>
>>
>> > Does anyone know if the Braille Sense will work with the MLB package,
>> > game day audio?
>> >
>> >
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Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

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Frankly I have never herard anyone say anything good about the noise reduction 
in 
goldwave.
- Original Message - 
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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


> I've found, and this is only my personal experience, that if one knows
> what one is doing, the noise reduction on Gold Wave can be every bit as
> good as that with Sound Forge ... or bad, depending on how you look at it.
> I'm not a believer in noise reduction by amateurs with any program, and
> that includes me.
>
> Bruce
>
> -- 
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> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>
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>
> On Sun, 2 Mar 2008, Gary G Schindler wrote:
>
>> the biggest complaint I have about Goldwave is that the noise reduction 
>> isn't 
>> very
>> good at all. Soundforge is much better in this respect. I used to like the 
>> Diamond
>> Cut programs for noise reduction too, but for editing files for a blind 
>> person 
>> was
>> and probably still is difficult. if studio recorder from APH had some kind of
>> noise reduction, I might have sprung for it, but it is pricy, so if I am 
>> going 
>> to
>> shell out money, I'll buy soundforge again. wavepad does some nice things 
>> too, 
>> but
>> seemed rather limited in what it does do so I quit using it. I thought it 
>> could 
>> be
>> a little easier to do basic editing functions with it.
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:08 PM
>> Subject: Goldwave Audio Editor
>>
>>
>> Ok, well I'm very impressed with this editing package and in a lot of
>> ways I believe Goldwave to be more functional and practical than Sound
>> Forge ever was or probably is ever likely to be, the layout of the
>> manual is very well done and easy to get around.
>> I went to the site at http://www.goldwave.com but I couldn't find a
>> purchase price anywhere and (to my slight annoyance) it seems that
>> Goldwave INC won't take paypal  but if its a fair price then
>> I'll save to purchase this.
>>
>> **
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>> From Melton Victoria Australia
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Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

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the biggest complaint I have about Goldwave is that the noise reduction isn't 
very 
good at all. Soundforge is much better in this respect. I used to like the 
Diamond 
Cut programs for noise reduction too, but for editing files for a blind person 
was 
and probably still is difficult. if studio recorder from APH had some kind of 
noise reduction, I might have sprung for it, but it is pricy, so if I am going 
to 
shell out money, I'll buy soundforge again. wavepad does some nice things too, 
but 
seemed rather limited in what it does do so I quit using it. I thought it could 
be 
a little easier to do basic editing functions with it.



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From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:08 PM
Subject: Goldwave Audio Editor


Ok, well I'm very impressed with this editing package and in a lot of
ways I believe Goldwave to be more functional and practical than Sound
Forge ever was or probably is ever likely to be, the layout of the
manual is very well done and easy to get around.
I went to the site at http://www.goldwave.com but I couldn't find a
purchase price anywhere and (to my slight annoyance) it seems that
Goldwave INC won't take paypal  but if its a fair price then
I'll save to purchase this.

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Re: Braille Sense and game day audio?

[Gary G Schindler]

does the Braile sense have windows media player? you have to log in with an 
email 
address before you get the stream.

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Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 9:53 AM
Subject: Braille Sense and game day audio?


> Does anyone know if the Braille Sense will work with the MLB package,
> game day audio?
>
>
> John
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Re: podcast question

[Gary G Schindler]

Why doesn't your friend try gasp from garage band.
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Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 11:02 AM
Subject: podcast question


> Hi guys,
>I've got a friend who wants to put up her podcasts for friends to listen 
> to. 
> Are there any places where you can put podcasts up and people won't ask many 
> questions about copywright issues?
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Re: Nero

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the price of Nero 8 is about $79.00 US the last time I checked. I doubt you can 
get the serial number anywhere except on the jacket that came with the disc. 
you 
may get an older version from www.oldversions.com and installing it to see if 
you 
can use it. the problem is that it may be in demo mode. I haven't done this.
- Original Message - 
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Subject: Re: Nero


> Well I'm interested in this too, because I use Nero.  I'm also wondering
> about the price of Nero 8 in U.S. currency.  I do have another question
> about Nero, incase anyone can help:  I was looking for an update of Nero,
> thinking that I used 6, but I was mistaken, and they told me that I needed
> to uninstall 5.5, so I did that, thinking that I was using Nero 6, but that
> not being the case, I tried to reinstall Nero 5.5, but it asked for the
> serial number that was on the disk where I originally installed the program
> from; but now, I can't seem to find the disk.  Does anyone know if there's a
> way to find the serial number for that version without having to have the
> disk in hand?  I hope this is not a stupid question.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Peter Bentley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio" 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 9:20 AM
> Subject: Nero
>
>
>>Hello all
>>
>> I am a new member to the list and a recent user of Nero and ripping
>> generally. Presently I am using Nero 8
>>
>> I am aware that when tracks are ripped and saved to the hard disk the
>> track titles can be drawn down from the net. As long as Nero is running
>> these track names are available and read when the files are viewed in
>> Windows Explorer. However, when Nero is unloaded the track names revert
>> back to "01.mp3" "02.mp3" etc. Is there a way within Nero of automatically
>> changing the actual file names to the track titles or does this have to be
>> done manually to each track using normal editing techniques.
>>
>> Any help will be much appreciated.
>>
>> Peter Bentley
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
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>> but I may be mistaken.
>>
>> Any help much appreciated.
>>
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Re: Winamp playlist to CD

[Gary G Schindler]

thanks Bruce, I should try Easy CD dA extractor, for you can do many format 
conversions with it to  I believe.

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Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: Winamp playlist to CD


> Easy CD-DA Extractor from www.poikosoft.com can also handle M3U
> playlists. Just an FYI.
>
> Bruce
>
> On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:17:44 -0500, "Gary G Schindler"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> this was one of the things I liked about roxio, you could burn a playlist
>> to CD. I
>> don't think this can be done in Winamp.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Peter Scanlon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 8:40 AM
>> Subject: Winamp playlist to CD
>>
>>
>> >I wonder if it is possible to take a playlist and brun it to CD. Either in 
>> >Winamp
>> >or in Nero. If in Nero you could create a regular audio CD if the playlist
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Re: Winamp playlist to CD

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this was one of the things I liked about roxio, you could burn a playlist to 
CD. I 
don't think this can be done in Winamp.

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>I wonder if it is possible to take a playlist and brun it to CD. Either in 
>Winamp 
>or in Nero. If in Nero you could create a regular audio CD if the playlist 
>consisted of .wav files.
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Re: REal Audio To Mp3

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I couldn't get switch tpo convert to the proper 44.1 sampling rate while making 
an 
mp3 either, and unless you use the paid version, you can't do Ogg Vorbis files 
which doesn't make sense, for ogg vorbis is open source.

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Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 6:35 AM
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> Oh, man, I downloaded the trial version of Switch only to discover it
> doesn't seem to want to convert Rax files.  Oh, well, back to All Music
> Converter which does a fair josb of converting those.  What a
> disappointment!
>
> Peace,
> Kathy
>
>
>
> Listen to Kathy and Fred on the Web at
>
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> http://www.fredkate.libsyn.com
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> | Thanks Lois,  I'll give it a try.
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Re: Mp3 player/recorder with line in?

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people used to use many of the Iriver player-recorders. I am not familiar with 
any 
of them, but the muvo recorders from creative are mostly inaccessible to blind 
people. a scroll wheel is used to access the menus. since they don't beep, you 
don't know where you are! I was quite disappointed because they are small 
enough 
to fit into a pocket. they use a sub-miniature jack for the line in jack too.

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Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 8:43 PM
Subject: Mp3 player/recorder with line in?


> Hello,
>
> A friend of mine wants to record things like the radio and tv using some
> sort of modern mp3 or similar audio player/recorder. We're looking around
> for any such unit which is inexpensive and has a line in jack. Are there any
> such things available?
>
> I know of the PlexTalk, and I think MileStone311 also can do this, but I was
> hoping to find something a bit less expensive.
>
> Perhaps the Edirol R9 may also do this, I'm not sure, but that comes with a
> price too.
>
> He has a Creative Moovo, I think he said, It does what he wants, but you
> must crawl thru a dozen menus to do it.
>
> Help appreciated.
>
> js
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Re: Sound devices for the PC

[Gary G Schindler]

the SB live has an SPDIF in and out, no toslink.

- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 3:35 AM
Subject: Re: Sound devices for the PC


Ok well I have an older SB Live here and it doesn't unless you can
possibly get some sort of digital I/O daughter board.

On 18/02/2008, at 6:41 PM, constantine (on laptop) wrote:

> The sb live does, I know that for a fact.
>
> Have a good day from Tyler C. Wood!
>
> contact details:
>
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>
> system details:
> Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc
> AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram,
> Fujitsu
> 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 1:29 AM
> Subject: Re: Sound devices for the PC
>
>
> This is all very interesting but what I'm particularly concerned about
> is whether these cards have digital i/o ports SPDIF ports if you like?
>
> On 18/02/2008, at 4:29 PM, Valiant8086 (on laptop) wrote:
>
>> Hi.
>> I have an x-fi for my laptop but I don't like that one. Creatives
>> are ok in
>> general, I have an audigy in my desktop and it rocks. The live
>> 24bits are
>> all right too. turtle beach is supposed to make good high end sound
>> cards.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "constantine (on laptop)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 10:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: Sound devices for the PC
>>
>>
>> Hi Dane,
>>
>> I'm not sure exactly, but I love the connecsant cards. I have one on
>> this hp
>> pavillion of mine (laptop), and it performs beautifully- and right
>> now there
>> are no independant volume controls on this card (but I forget what
>> its
>> called). I'll look into it and see what I can find. I also have a
>> SiS 7018
>> on this desktop sitting beside me, but its horrible. Don't go with
>> SiS.
>> Creative are really great; I have an SB live on another of my
>> desktops. I
>> love it. THe stario mix feature especially, since it keeps the base
>> and
>> doesn't distort at all, and also unlike some soundcards, when you go
>> to 0
>> percent, it means 0 percent- and when you put it at 100, most
>> soundcards
>> I've used distort but don't get any louder- this one really pumps
>> the volume
>> up and performs spectacularely!
>>
>> hope that helps;
>>
>> Have a good day from Tyler C. Wood!
>>
>> contact details:
>>
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>>
>> system details:
>> Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc
>> AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram,
>> Fujitsu
>> 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 5:55 AM
>> Subject: Sound devices for the PC
>>
>>
>> Hi everyone!
>> Ok (as surprising as this may sound to a lot of people) I'm a novice
>> with the PC technology (or trashbox as I prefer to call it > these days so I'd appreciate some input from other list members here.
>> I've spoken about my DAT and I intend to get the digital converter
>> that someone on this list kindly gave me the name of, I found it
>> still
>> in stock in some of the shops here so I've placed an order.
>> The discussion has also prompted me to look at a new sound device for
>> the Trashbox, I've used (up until now) SB Live cards, the Realtek
>> ac97
>> built-in sound device on the Mother Board of the Trashbox and the
>> Imic
>> sound devices, all have performed to my expectations but now however,
>> well I'm stepping into unfamiliar teritory as I want to purchase a
>> sound card with digital i/o capabilities but on the other hand I want
>> it to be as accessible with speech as is practical, I'm told that
>> many
>> of the new sound devices on the market have volume controls which
>> differ from the standard windows volume controls, is this correct?
>> I briefly looked at the catalogue displayed by my local computer
>> store
>> on the net http://www.istore.com.au and looked at the Creative brand,
>> there's no shortage of sound devices there it would seem but which
>> one
>> to buy? Should I in fact steer clear of Creative completely and go
>> for
>> something else?
>> Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.
>> As a footnote to this, my Trashbox is approaching its fifth birthday
>> so I'm wanting something which will be compatible with my current
>> Trashbox and will be compatible with a new Trashbox which I plan to
>> purchase in about 6 months all being well. Of course! if the device
>> should be compatible with the Mac then that's a bonus but that's
>> something that I don't class as a priority.
>> Thanks In Advance
>>
>> **
>> Dane Trethowan
>> From Melton Victoria Austra

Re: Digital Digital

[Gary G Schindler]

I still want the CO3 myself! I waited to long to buy one.


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From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: Digital Digital


Yeah, well in that case I'll look for a CO3 as I want to override any
SCMS protection stuff but on the other hand, I think there's a way of
getting the Tascam to stop sending that garbage anyway.

On 16/02/2008, at 7:44 AM, Gary G Schindler wrote:

> the co2 requires no power supply. the CO3 enabled one to override
> any serial copy
> protection which is why they don't sell the CO3 in the US any more!
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 2:44 PM
> Subject: Re: Digital Digital
>
>
> And what's the difference between them?
>
> On 16/02/2008, at 6:04 AM, Gary G Schindler wrote:
>
>> the M-audio CO3 isn't made any more, search for the CO2 which is
>> still being
>> manufactured.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 4:24 AM
>> Subject: Re: Digital Digital
>>
>>
>> I hope we have a stockest in Australia for this, I'll have to use my
>> friend "Google".
>>
>> On 15/02/2008, at 7:46 PM, Gary G Schindler wrote:
>>
>>> why don't you try the M-audio Co3 which converts fiber optics to
>>> coaxial signals
>>> and back again. I think they cost about $40.00, I guess 20 pounds or
>>> so.
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 2:35 AM
>>> Subject: Digital Digital
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi everyone!
>>> Perhaps people on this list have had to deal with this situation.
>>> I have a collection of DAT tapes here so its time to sort through
>>> them
>>> all an sample what needs to be sampled to the computer and call it
>>> quits.
>>> I sold my original Denon DAT recorder some 10 years ago and I'm
>>> glad I
>>> did because I got a great price for it then. I purchased a
>>> replacement
>>> Tascam dm-30 MKII a few days ago for a very reasonable sum and I'm
>>> impressed with what it does so here's the problem. My computers
>>> (Apple
>>> Macs) have fibre optic digital in and out (the type you'll see say
>>> on
>>> a minidisc recorder where the 3.5MM input and output audio jacks
>>> double as digital input and output audio jacks). The DAT recorder
>>> has
>>> either XLR digital in and out or RCA digital in and out, not quite
>>> appropriate for what I need. So can a conversion box be built or
>>> bought perhaps to overcome this problem? If need be then I'll look
>>> at
>>> getting another sound device and (if I have to) use the trashbox
>>> (PC)
>>>  to do the sampling if I have to use some sort of PCI card
>>> for
>>> the sound device, does anyone have any suggestions? Perhaps there's
>>> an
>>> external device of some sort which plugs into USB or firewire which
>>> will accept digital optical in and out and will work with a Mac as
>>> well as a PC.
>>> Thanks in Advance
>>>
>>> **
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>>> From Melton Victoria Australia
>>> Phone +613 9747 3975
>>> Voiceover Tech Support +613 8732 9237
>>> Fax +613 9743 7954
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Re: Digital Digital

[Gary G Schindler]

the co2 requires no power supply. the CO3 enabled one to override any serial 
copy 
protection which is why they don't sell the CO3 in the US any more!

- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: Digital Digital


And what's the difference between them?

On 16/02/2008, at 6:04 AM, Gary G Schindler wrote:

> the M-audio CO3 isn't made any more, search for the CO2 which is
> still being
> manufactured.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 4:24 AM
> Subject: Re: Digital Digital
>
>
> I hope we have a stockest in Australia for this, I'll have to use my
> friend "Google".
>
> On 15/02/2008, at 7:46 PM, Gary G Schindler wrote:
>
>> why don't you try the M-audio Co3 which converts fiber optics to
>> coaxial signals
>> and back again. I think they cost about $40.00, I guess 20 pounds or
>> so.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 2:35 AM
>> Subject: Digital Digital
>>
>>
>> Hi everyone!
>> Perhaps people on this list have had to deal with this situation.
>> I have a collection of DAT tapes here so its time to sort through
>> them
>> all an sample what needs to be sampled to the computer and call it
>> quits.
>> I sold my original Denon DAT recorder some 10 years ago and I'm
>> glad I
>> did because I got a great price for it then. I purchased a
>> replacement
>> Tascam dm-30 MKII a few days ago for a very reasonable sum and I'm
>> impressed with what it does so here's the problem. My computers
>> (Apple
>> Macs) have fibre optic digital in and out (the type you'll see say on
>> a minidisc recorder where the 3.5MM input and output audio jacks
>> double as digital input and output audio jacks). The DAT recorder has
>> either XLR digital in and out or RCA digital in and out, not quite
>> appropriate for what I need. So can a conversion box be built or
>> bought perhaps to overcome this problem? If need be then I'll look at
>> getting another sound device and (if I have to) use the trashbox (PC)
>>  to do the sampling if I have to use some sort of PCI card for
>> the sound device, does anyone have any suggestions? Perhaps there's
>> an
>> external device of some sort which plugs into USB or firewire which
>> will accept digital optical in and out and will work with a Mac as
>> well as a PC.
>> Thanks in Advance
>>
>> **
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>> From Melton Victoria Australia
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Re: Digital Digital

[Gary G Schindler]

the M-audio CO3 isn't made any more, search for the CO2 which is still being 
manufactured.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 4:24 AM
Subject: Re: Digital Digital


I hope we have a stockest in Australia for this, I'll have to use my
friend "Google".

On 15/02/2008, at 7:46 PM, Gary G Schindler wrote:

> why don't you try the M-audio Co3 which converts fiber optics to
> coaxial signals
> and back again. I think they cost about $40.00, I guess 20 pounds or
> so.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 2:35 AM
> Subject: Digital Digital
>
>
> Hi everyone!
> Perhaps people on this list have had to deal with this situation.
> I have a collection of DAT tapes here so its time to sort through them
> all an sample what needs to be sampled to the computer and call it
> quits.
> I sold my original Denon DAT recorder some 10 years ago and I'm glad I
> did because I got a great price for it then. I purchased a replacement
> Tascam dm-30 MKII a few days ago for a very reasonable sum and I'm
> impressed with what it does so here's the problem. My computers (Apple
> Macs) have fibre optic digital in and out (the type you'll see say on
> a minidisc recorder where the 3.5MM input and output audio jacks
> double as digital input and output audio jacks). The DAT recorder has
> either XLR digital in and out or RCA digital in and out, not quite
> appropriate for what I need. So can a conversion box be built or
> bought perhaps to overcome this problem? If need be then I'll look at
> getting another sound device and (if I have to) use the trashbox (PC)
>  to do the sampling if I have to use some sort of PCI card for
> the sound device, does anyone have any suggestions? Perhaps there's an
> external device of some sort which plugs into USB or firewire which
> will accept digital optical in and out and will work with a Mac as
> well as a PC.
> Thanks in Advance
>
> **
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> From Melton Victoria Australia
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Re: Digital Digital

[Gary G Schindler]

why don't you try the M-audio Co3 which converts fiber optics to coaxial 
signals 
and back again. I think they cost about $40.00, I guess 20 pounds or so.

- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 2:35 AM
Subject: Digital Digital


Hi everyone!
Perhaps people on this list have had to deal with this situation.
I have a collection of DAT tapes here so its time to sort through them
all an sample what needs to be sampled to the computer and call it
quits.
I sold my original Denon DAT recorder some 10 years ago and I'm glad I
did because I got a great price for it then. I purchased a replacement
Tascam dm-30 MKII a few days ago for a very reasonable sum and I'm
impressed with what it does so here's the problem. My computers (Apple
Macs) have fibre optic digital in and out (the type you'll see say on
a minidisc recorder where the 3.5MM input and output audio jacks
double as digital input and output audio jacks). The DAT recorder has
either XLR digital in and out or RCA digital in and out, not quite
appropriate for what I need. So can a conversion box be built or
bought perhaps to overcome this problem? If need be then I'll look at
getting another sound device and (if I have to) use the trashbox (PC)
 to do the sampling if I have to use some sort of PCI card for
the sound device, does anyone have any suggestions? Perhaps there's an
external device of some sort which plugs into USB or firewire which
will accept digital optical in and out and will work with a Mac as
well as a PC.
Thanks in Advance

**
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Re: TV tuner info needed

[Gary G Schindler]

the other is probably the analog tuner. for channels 2-69.

- Original Message - 
From: "Donald L. Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 12:03 PM
Subject: TV tuner info needed


As I got no response when I sent the below message to another
list, I hope to have better luck with pc-audio.




I just bought a bargain basement refurbished 19-inch HD TV with
specs which
sound pretty good to me.  However, I have one question.  The
below info suggests that there are two built-in tuners.  Please
take a look and tell me just what is meant by ATSC and the other
whose name I cannot remember. I think the ATSC is the digital
tuner, but what is the other one?  Below is the
link for the 19-inch Westinghouse TV.

http://www.ecost.com/detail.aspx?EDP=40437119

Here are the specs as I copied them:

19" LCD HDTV - SK-19H210
Turn your kitchen, bathroom or RV into a mini home theatre with
the new Westinghouse
19" LDC HDTV. The SK-19H210S is a versatile 19" LCD HDTV that
offers 3 HD inputs,
a built-in ATSC/NTSC/ClearQam tuner and a PC compatible 1440 x
900 wide screen resolution.
Equipped with a built-in carrying handle, this TV is easy to take
from room to room.
19" LCD HDTV - SK-19H210
Specifications
Viewable Screen Size
19" Diagonal
Aspect Ratio
16:10
Native/Optimum Resolution
1440 x 900
Color Capability
16.2 Million colors
Connectors
1 Antenna In (RF)
1 Video/S-Video In
1 YPbPr In
1 HDMI
1 D-Sub (VGA) In
1 PC Audio In (mini)
2 Audio In (dual RCA)
1 Phone Out
1 SPDIF Optical Out
1 AC Power In
Compatible Modes
NTSC/ATSC/ClearQAM 480o, 480p, 720p, 1080i
PC VGA, SVGA, XGA, WXGA+
Picture
Contrast Ratio 1000:1
Color Gamut 75% NTSC
Lamp Life 40,000 Hrs
Viewing Angle 170° Horizontal
160° Vertical
Response Time 5 ms
Video Features
Preset Video Modes - Enhanced/Movie/Game/Sport
Screen Fit Modes - Standard/Fill
Progressive Scan
2D OSD Graphics Engine
Selectable Color Temperature - 3 presets, 1 User Adjustable
Convenience Features
AutosourceT
SpineDesignT
DayBrightT - High contrast LCD for both day and night
Parental Control
Sleep Timer
Dimensions and Weight
18.6" x 16.5" x 6.6" (with Base)
9.7 lbs (with Base)
18.6" x 14.7" x 3.4" (w/o Base)
9.0 lbs (w/o Base)
21.6" x 18.5 " x 6.7 " (carton dimensions)
13.0 lbs (carton weight)
Audio
2-3.5 watt speakers - Front firing
Cabinet Color
Black
Installation Options
8 Hole Pattern
100mm x 100mm VESA® Pattern wall mounts
Manufacturer Information
Parts Warranty
90 Days


Don Roberts


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Re: cd cleaner question

[Gary G Schindler]

you can buy the non motorized version cheaper. they work well.

radio shack had some of the repair kits for about $12.00 or so.

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Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 10:36 PM
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> Michael,
> 
> Take a look on
> 
> http://www.amazon.com
> 
> for the Motorized Skip Doctor.  You spray a liquid on the CD or DVD and 
> place it in the device which buffs the plastic surface.  Then you dry it and 
> polish it with the included cloths.  I haven't used one, and so I can't 
> recommend it.  You can read the reviews and decide for yourself if its worth 
> $50.  It might be cheaper to replace the CDs.
> 
> Gary King
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> 
>> Hello listers,  I have some cd's that are scrached.  Can some one please! 
>> tell me how to clean them?  Because they won't even play on my computer. 
>> Thanks
>> Michael
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