Re: List Rules Regarding Music Posts

2007-11-27 Thread Brett Boyer
So the guy needs some help with titles of songs. How is that against the 
rules? I think you're going a little overboard.
The Leslie Gore was a direct request but not this thread about CCR.
Please let me know if this still falls under those rules.
bb

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Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 4:59 AM
Subject: List Rules Regarding Music Posts


> The quote below is taken from the rules for posting to the pc
> audio list.  By the way, I did not write them, I just try to
> continue to maintain the intent for the purpose of the list
> as specified by the list originator.
>
> Tom
>
> Begin Quote.
> There are also some PC audio related topics which are
> specifically excluded from the allowable topics. The
> explicitly prohibited topics include:
> * requests for songs or other audio files.
> * promotion of audio streams except for occasional
> announcements of special events.
> * advertising audio products and service.
> End Quote.
>
> ** Message From: albert griffith **
>>I see nothing in the guidelines branding this as off-topic.
>>Please enlighten me?
>
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Re: List Rules Regarding Music Posts

2007-11-27 Thread Mike Pietruk
David

As I understand the guideline of not discussing streams, this refers to 
streams one has a personal interest in -- not streams in general.
Otherwise, what you see happen on some lists is that each time someone 
does their homebrew internet show, they post a note about it.
And reading that same stuff over and over from the same folks is a turn 
off for a lot of people and can, given the list, become the dominant 
posting on a list drriving folks away.




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Re: List Rules Regarding Music Posts

2007-11-27 Thread David Tanner
Wellk, I understand but, but I don't understand the part about not talking 
about streams.  Was there some thought that there would be bitter 
disagreement over them or what?  Guess I don't understand where the problem 
is with that.

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Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: List Rules Regarding Music Posts


> This list, along with Blindtech, started out in the stable of Jonathan
> Mosen.
> And up until the last year or so, the lists went in tandem through a
> number of managers, including Jonathan for a 2nd time.
> Last year, Tom took this list and BlindTech went its separate way.
> As for the rule, Jonathan wanted to steer clear of possible conpyright
> infringements occurring via the list; hence, the rule on music.
> I doubt that he had ever envisioned the particular direction this
> particular thread has tkaen.
> I personally don't have a feeling on this; but perhaps Tom needs to think
> this one over and decide whether where one can legally find particular
> music (or lyrics) is on or off topic.
> Finding hard to get songs from 3rd party sources could help a lot of folks
> out particularly in gift giving season.
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RE: List Rules Regarding Music Posts

2007-11-26 Thread albert griffith
If everyone knew how to use google at its most effective level, we wouldn't
need lists.  Another way to learn about which songs to with the tracks you
have is to find the same album on amazon and compare their written track
listings with your numbers.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 8:02 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: List Rules Regarding Music Posts

Hi.  One really easy way around this is to google some of the lyrics.
Google really can be your friend if you know how to use it effectively.
so I would do that.

At 09:26 AM 11/26/2007, you wrote:
>  Hi DJ DOCTOR P,
>
>Your exactly correct the cd I ripped did not properly give the names of
>the tracks so I am looking for the proper names of the tracks.
>
>Scott
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "albert griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
>Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 7:59 AM
>Subject: RE: List Rules Regarding Music Posts
>
>
> >I understand the need to stay out of trouble with copyright laws but
> >learning the name of a song one is licensed to have doesn't seem illegal.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P
> > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 5:52 AM
> > To: PC Audio Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: List Rules Regarding Music Posts
> >
> > High Mike,
> > I agree with you 150%.
> > I believe what the message poster was asking was how to find the
> > titles to untitled tracks on his hard drive.
> > Some store bought CD's especially older CD's from the mid to late
> > 1980's don't rip properly.
> > You get the songs, but you don't get the info that goes with them.
> > All you get is unknown artist and unknown alvem.
> > And even after you open that folder, all you see is 01 track 1.wma
> > or whatever format it was ripped in.
> > CD's that were made after 1992 don't have this problem.
> > There were some 100 disc changers that would display all of the text
> > on the CD's in their LCD display windows.
> > I should add, there are still some CD players out there that will
> > still display the text on any CD you play in them.
> > I hope this helps us all to better understand what's going on here.
> > By the way Mike, thanks for the info.
> >  John.
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Mike Pietruk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 8:30 AM
> > Subject: Re: List Rules Regarding Music Posts
> >
> >
> >> This list, along with Blindtech, started out in the stable of
> >> Jonathan Mosen.
> >> And up until the last year or so, the lists went in tandem through
> >> a number of managers, including Jonathan for a 2nd time.
> >> Last year, Tom took this list and BlindTech went its separate way.
> >> As for the rule, Jonathan wanted to steer clear of possible
> >> copyright infringements occurring via the list; hence, the rule on
music.
> >> I doubt that he had ever envisioned the particular direction this
> >> particular thread has taken.
> >> I personally don't have a feeling on this; but perhaps Tom needs to
> >> think this one over and decide whether where one can legally find
> >> particular music (or lyrics) is on or off topic.
> >> Finding hard to get songs from 3rd party sources could help a lot
> >> of folks out particularly in gift giving season.
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Re: List Rules Regarding Music Posts

2007-11-26 Thread Chris Skarstad
Hi.  One really easy way around this is to google some of the 
lyrics.  Google really can be your friend if you know how to use it 
effectively.
so I would do that.

At 09:26 AM 11/26/2007, you wrote:
>  Hi DJ DOCTOR P,
>
>Your exactly correct the cd I ripped did not properly give the names of the
>tracks so I am looking for the proper names of the tracks.
>
>Scott
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "albert griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
>Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 7:59 AM
>Subject: RE: List Rules Regarding Music Posts
>
>
> >I understand the need to stay out of trouble with copyright laws but
> > learning the name of a song one is licensed to have doesn't seem illegal.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P
> > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 5:52 AM
> > To: PC Audio Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: List Rules Regarding Music Posts
> >
> > High Mike,
> > I agree with you 150%.
> > I believe what the message poster was asking was how to find the titles to
> > untitled tracks on his hard drive.
> > Some store bought CD's especially older CD's from the mid to late 1980's
> > don't rip properly.
> > You get the songs, but you don't get the info that goes with them.
> > All you get is unknown artist and unknown alvem.
> > And even after you open that folder, all you see is 01 track 1.wma or
> > whatever format it was ripped in.
> > CD's that were made after 1992 don't have this problem.
> > There were some 100 disc changers that would display all of the text on
> > the
> > CD's in their LCD display windows.
> > I should add, there are still some CD players out there that will still
> > display the text on any CD you play in them.
> > I hope this helps us all to better understand what's going on here.
> > By the way Mike, thanks for the info.
> >  John.
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Mike Pietruk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 8:30 AM
> > Subject: Re: List Rules Regarding Music Posts
> >
> >
> >> This list, along with Blindtech, started out in the stable of Jonathan
> >> Mosen.
> >> And up until the last year or so, the lists went in tandem through a
> >> number of managers, including Jonathan for a 2nd time.
> >> Last year, Tom took this list and BlindTech went its separate way.
> >> As for the rule, Jonathan wanted to steer clear of possible copyright
> >> infringements occurring via the list; hence, the rule on music.
> >> I doubt that he had ever envisioned the particular direction this
> >> particular thread has taken.
> >> I personally don't have a feeling on this; but perhaps Tom needs to
> >> think this one over and decide whether where one can legally find
> >> particular music (or lyrics) is on or off topic.
> >> Finding hard to get songs from 3rd party sources could help a lot of
> >> folks out particularly in gift giving season.
> >>
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Re: List Rules Regarding Music Posts

2007-11-26 Thread Scott Berry
 Hi DJ DOCTOR P,

Your exactly correct the cd I ripped did not properly give the names of the 
tracks so I am looking for the proper names of the tracks.

Scott


- Original Message - 
From: "albert griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 7:59 AM
Subject: RE: List Rules Regarding Music Posts


>I understand the need to stay out of trouble with copyright laws but
> learning the name of a song one is licensed to have doesn't seem illegal.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 5:52 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: List Rules Regarding Music Posts
>
> High Mike,
> I agree with you 150%.
> I believe what the message poster was asking was how to find the titles to
> untitled tracks on his hard drive.
> Some store bought CD's especially older CD's from the mid to late 1980's
> don't rip properly.
> You get the songs, but you don't get the info that goes with them.
> All you get is unknown artist and unknown alvem.
> And even after you open that folder, all you see is 01 track 1.wma or
> whatever format it was ripped in.
> CD's that were made after 1992 don't have this problem.
> There were some 100 disc changers that would display all of the text on 
> the
> CD's in their LCD display windows.
> I should add, there are still some CD players out there that will still
> display the text on any CD you play in them.
> I hope this helps us all to better understand what's going on here.
> By the way Mike, thanks for the info.
>  John.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mike Pietruk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 8:30 AM
> Subject: Re: List Rules Regarding Music Posts
>
>
>> This list, along with Blindtech, started out in the stable of Jonathan
>> Mosen.
>> And up until the last year or so, the lists went in tandem through a
>> number of managers, including Jonathan for a 2nd time.
>> Last year, Tom took this list and BlindTech went its separate way.
>> As for the rule, Jonathan wanted to steer clear of possible copyright
>> infringements occurring via the list; hence, the rule on music.
>> I doubt that he had ever envisioned the particular direction this
>> particular thread has taken.
>> I personally don't have a feeling on this; but perhaps Tom needs to
>> think this one over and decide whether where one can legally find
>> particular music (or lyrics) is on or off topic.
>> Finding hard to get songs from 3rd party sources could help a lot of
>> folks out particularly in gift giving season.
>>
>>
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RE: List Rules Regarding Music Posts

2007-11-26 Thread albert griffith
I understand the need to stay out of trouble with copyright laws but
learning the name of a song one is licensed to have doesn't seem illegal.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 5:52 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: List Rules Regarding Music Posts

High Mike,
I agree with you 150%.
I believe what the message poster was asking was how to find the titles to
untitled tracks on his hard drive.
Some store bought CD's especially older CD's from the mid to late 1980's
don't rip properly.
You get the songs, but you don't get the info that goes with them.
All you get is unknown artist and unknown alvem.
And even after you open that folder, all you see is 01 track 1.wma or
whatever format it was ripped in.
CD's that were made after 1992 don't have this problem.
There were some 100 disc changers that would display all of the text on the
CD's in their LCD display windows.
I should add, there are still some CD players out there that will still
display the text on any CD you play in them.
I hope this helps us all to better understand what's going on here.
By the way Mike, thanks for the info.
  John.
- Original Message -
From: "Mike Pietruk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 8:30 AM
Subject: Re: List Rules Regarding Music Posts


> This list, along with Blindtech, started out in the stable of Jonathan
> Mosen.
> And up until the last year or so, the lists went in tandem through a
> number of managers, including Jonathan for a 2nd time.
> Last year, Tom took this list and BlindTech went its separate way.
> As for the rule, Jonathan wanted to steer clear of possible conpyright
> infringements occurring via the list; hence, the rule on music.
> I doubt that he had ever envisioned the particular direction this
> particular thread has tkaen.
> I personally don't have a feeling on this; but perhaps Tom needs to
> think this one over and decide whether where one can legally find
> particular music (or lyrics) is on or off topic.
> Finding hard to get songs from 3rd party sources could help a lot of
> folks out particularly in gift giving season.
>
>
>
>
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Re: List Rules Regarding Music Posts

2007-11-26 Thread DJ DOCTOR P
High Mike,
I agree with you 150%.
I believe what the message poster was asking was how to find the titles to 
untitled tracks on his hard drive.
Some store bought CD's especially older CD's from the mid to late 1980's 
don't rip properly.
You get the songs, but you don't get the info that goes with them.
All you get is unknown artist and unknown alvem.
And even after you open that folder, all you see is 01 track 1.wma or 
whatever format it was ripped in.
CD's that were made after 1992 don't have this problem.
There were some 100 disc changers that would display all of the text on the 
CD's in their LCD display windows.
I should add, there are still some CD players out there that will still 
display the text on any CD you play in them.
I hope this helps us all to better understand what's going on here.
By the way Mike, thanks for the info.
  John.
- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Pietruk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 8:30 AM
Subject: Re: List Rules Regarding Music Posts


> This list, along with Blindtech, started out in the stable of Jonathan
> Mosen.
> And up until the last year or so, the lists went in tandem through a
> number of managers, including Jonathan for a 2nd time.
> Last year, Tom took this list and BlindTech went its separate way.
> As for the rule, Jonathan wanted to steer clear of possible conpyright
> infringements occurring via the list; hence, the rule on music.
> I doubt that he had ever envisioned the particular direction this
> particular thread has tkaen.
> I personally don't have a feeling on this; but perhaps Tom needs to think
> this one over and decide whether where one can legally find particular
> music (or lyrics) is on or off topic.
> Finding hard to get songs from 3rd party sources could help a lot of folks
> out particularly in gift giving season.
>
>
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Re: List Rules Regarding Music Posts

2007-11-26 Thread Mike Pietruk
This list, along with Blindtech, started out in the stable of Jonathan 
Mosen.
And up until the last year or so, the lists went in tandem through a 
number of managers, including Jonathan for a 2nd time.
Last year, Tom took this list and BlindTech went its separate way.
As for the rule, Jonathan wanted to steer clear of possible conpyright 
infringements occurring via the list; hence, the rule on music.
I doubt that he had ever envisioned the particular direction this 
particular thread has tkaen.
I personally don't have a feeling on this; but perhaps Tom needs to think 
this one over and decide whether where one can legally find particular 
music (or lyrics) is on or off topic.
Finding hard to get songs from 3rd party sources could help a lot of folks 
out particularly in gift giving season.




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Re: List Rules Regarding Music Posts

2007-11-26 Thread DJ DOCTOR P
High Tom,
I hope you don't mind me asking, but who was the list originator?
I thought that was you.
  John.
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Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 6:59 AM
Subject: List Rules Regarding Music Posts


> The quote below is taken from the rules for posting to the pc
> audio list.  By the way, I did not write them, I just try to
> continue to maintain the intent for the purpose of the list
> as specified by the list originator.
>
> Tom
>
> Begin Quote.
> There are also some PC audio related topics which are
> specifically excluded from the allowable topics. The
> explicitly prohibited topics include:
> * requests for songs or other audio files.
> * promotion of audio streams except for occasional
> announcements of special events.
> * advertising audio products and service.
> End Quote.
>
> ** Message From: albert griffith **
>>I see nothing in the guidelines branding this as off-topic.
>>Please enlighten me?
>
>
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List Rules Regarding Music Posts

2007-11-26 Thread Tom
The quote below is taken from the rules for posting to the pc 
audio list.  By the way, I did not write them, I just try to 
continue to maintain the intent for the purpose of the list 
as specified by the list originator.

Tom

Begin Quote.
There are also some PC audio related topics which are 
specifically excluded from the allowable topics. The 
explicitly prohibited topics include:
* requests for songs or other audio files.
* promotion of audio streams except for occasional 
announcements of special events.
* advertising audio products and service.
End Quote.

** Message From: albert griffith **
>I see nothing in the guidelines branding this as off-topic.  
>Please enlighten me?




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