RE: lowering bit rate in some mp3 files
Hi Joe Yes it is dreadful audio, it could be better. A great track all the same. Adrien -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Joe Paton Sent: 08 March 2013 00:41 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: lowering bit rate in some mp3 files Hello Adrien, I've heard it tonight. Dreadful audio though, but a good guitar solo, reckon he liked the original. Brian may would have been pleased to hear his work so expertly executed. Drums are high in the mix as well, huge conpression all over the place, I'd look for a better version if I liked the track. Reckon the quality is the answer to your distortion. particularly if other music is clean and good sounding. Thanks. Joe At 20:19 07/03/2013, you wrote: >Hi Joe > >I have a feeling it is youtube, the audio possibly isn't too >clear, if you want to hear them, search for guns and roses >and Elton john bohemian rhapsody, not a great recording. > >Adrien > > >-Original Message- >From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On >Behalf Of Joe Paton >Sent: 07 March 2013 17:50 >To: PC Audio Discussion List >Subject: RE: lowering bit rate in some mp3 files > >Hi, > >I've just seen your answer to ray Adrien. > >If you play these files on-line from Youtube, how is the >sound thenm? > >Do you think that the distortion is being introduced when >the files >are converted? > >I haven't had any excperience with these youtube stream >rippers or >whatever they are. > >Thanks. > >Joe > > >To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > > >To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: lowering bit rate in some mp3 files
Hello Adrien, I've heard it tonight. Dreadful audio though, but a good guitar solo, reckon he liked the original. Brian may would have been pleased to hear his work so expertly executed. Drums are high in the mix as well, huge conpression all over the place, I'd look for a better version if I liked the track. Reckon the quality is the answer to your distortion. particularly if other music is clean and good sounding. Thanks. Joe At 20:19 07/03/2013, you wrote: Hi Joe I have a feeling it is youtube, the audio possibly isn't too clear, if you want to hear them, search for guns and roses and Elton john bohemian rhapsody, not a great recording. Adrien -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Joe Paton Sent: 07 March 2013 17:50 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: lowering bit rate in some mp3 files Hi, I've just seen your answer to ray Adrien. If you play these files on-line from Youtube, how is the sound thenm? Do you think that the distortion is being introduced when the files are converted? I haven't had any excperience with these youtube stream rippers or whatever they are. Thanks. Joe To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: lowering bit rate in some mp3 files
unfortunately if you get a video from Joe six-pack the quality is going to vary best suggestion look for multiple versions and try to convert the audio with the best quality. Ray T. Mahorney WA4WGA -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Adrien Collins Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 20:20 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: lowering bit rate in some mp3 files Hi It was ok, not great, but ok, not as clear if you were converting from cd. I would hope they would be better quality. Don't know much about this at all. Adrien -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Ray T. Mahorney Sent: 07 March 2013 17:29 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: lowering bit rate in some mp3 files you converted them from you tube assuming you were using you tube to MP3 converter how was the audio on the source files? Ray T. Mahorney WA4WGA -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Adrien Collins Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 16:22 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: lowering bit rate in some mp3 files Hi Joe When I listen to them, I hear a lot of distortion or crackling when I have the audio up full. It is difficult to get it at a comfortable level Adrien -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Joe Paton Sent: 07 March 2013 12:03 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: lowering bit rate in some mp3 files Adrian, Lowering the bit-rate wil not improve the situation. There may be a number of reasons why you are hearing distortion, and changint the bit-rate will not fix this. When you say distortion, do you mean over mudulation, or are you hearing artifacts in the audio? Joe At 20:29 06/03/2013, you wrote: >Hi > >I have just got my new victor reader stream, when I play one >or two live tracks on the stream, they sound really >distorted because the are in a higher bit rate, would >lowering the bit rate solve this and in what program should >I lower the bit rate? I have easy cd converter as well as >the latest version and sound taxi to name but a few. > >Adrien > > > > >To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: lowering bit rate in some mp3 files
Hi It was ok, not great, but ok, not as clear if you were converting from cd. I would hope they would be better quality. Don't know much about this at all. Adrien -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Ray T. Mahorney Sent: 07 March 2013 17:29 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: lowering bit rate in some mp3 files you converted them from you tube assuming you were using you tube to MP3 converter how was the audio on the source files? Ray T. Mahorney WA4WGA -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Adrien Collins Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 16:22 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: lowering bit rate in some mp3 files Hi Joe When I listen to them, I hear a lot of distortion or crackling when I have the audio up full. It is difficult to get it at a comfortable level Adrien -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Joe Paton Sent: 07 March 2013 12:03 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: lowering bit rate in some mp3 files Adrian, Lowering the bit-rate wil not improve the situation. There may be a number of reasons why you are hearing distortion, and changint the bit-rate will not fix this. When you say distortion, do you mean over mudulation, or are you hearing artifacts in the audio? Joe At 20:29 06/03/2013, you wrote: >Hi > >I have just got my new victor reader stream, when I play one >or two live tracks on the stream, they sound really >distorted because the are in a higher bit rate, would >lowering the bit rate solve this and in what program should >I lower the bit rate? I have easy cd converter as well as >the latest version and sound taxi to name but a few. > >Adrien > > > > >To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: lowering bit rate in some mp3 files
Hi Joe I have a feeling it is youtube, the audio possibly isn't too clear, if you want to hear them, search for guns and roses and Elton john bohemian rhapsody, not a great recording. Adrien -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Joe Paton Sent: 07 March 2013 17:50 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: lowering bit rate in some mp3 files Hi, I've just seen your answer to ray Adrien. If you play these files on-line from Youtube, how is the sound thenm? Do you think that the distortion is being introduced when the files are converted? I haven't had any excperience with these youtube stream rippers or whatever they are. Thanks. Joe To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: lowering bit rate in some mp3 files
Hi, I've just seen your answer to ray Adrien. If you play these files on-line from Youtube, how is the sound thenm? Do you think that the distortion is being introduced when the files are converted? I haven't had any excperience with these youtube stream rippers or whatever they are. Thanks. Joe To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: lowering bit rate in some mp3 files
Hello Ray and adrien, Good point ray. Adrien, what is the origin of the source files? I asume that when you turn the levels up on other files they are all clean as whistles? Thanks. Joe Was it as cd you ripped, or a downloaded audio? t 16:28 07/03/2013, you wrote: you converted them from you tube assuming you were using you tube to MP3 converter how was the audio on the source files? Ray T. Mahorney WA4WGA -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Adrien Collins Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 16:22 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: lowering bit rate in some mp3 files Hi Joe When I listen to them, I hear a lot of distortion or crackling when I have the audio up full. It is difficult to get it at a comfortable level Adrien -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Joe Paton Sent: 07 March 2013 12:03 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: lowering bit rate in some mp3 files Adrian, Lowering the bit-rate wil not improve the situation. There may be a number of reasons why you are hearing distortion, and changint the bit-rate will not fix this. When you say distortion, do you mean over mudulation, or are you hearing artifacts in the audio? Joe At 20:29 06/03/2013, you wrote: >Hi > >I have just got my new victor reader stream, when I play one >or two live tracks on the stream, they sound really >distorted because the are in a higher bit rate, would >lowering the bit rate solve this and in what program should >I lower the bit rate? I have easy cd converter as well as >the latest version and sound taxi to name but a few. > >Adrien > > > > >To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: lowering bit rate in some mp3 files
you converted them from you tube assuming you were using you tube to MP3 converter how was the audio on the source files? Ray T. Mahorney WA4WGA -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Adrien Collins Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 16:22 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: lowering bit rate in some mp3 files Hi Joe When I listen to them, I hear a lot of distortion or crackling when I have the audio up full. It is difficult to get it at a comfortable level Adrien -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Joe Paton Sent: 07 March 2013 12:03 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: lowering bit rate in some mp3 files Adrian, Lowering the bit-rate wil not improve the situation. There may be a number of reasons why you are hearing distortion, and changint the bit-rate will not fix this. When you say distortion, do you mean over mudulation, or are you hearing artifacts in the audio? Joe At 20:29 06/03/2013, you wrote: >Hi > >I have just got my new victor reader stream, when I play one >or two live tracks on the stream, they sound really >distorted because the are in a higher bit rate, would >lowering the bit rate solve this and in what program should >I lower the bit rate? I have easy cd converter as well as >the latest version and sound taxi to name but a few. > >Adrien > > > > >To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: lowering bit rate in some mp3 files
Hi Ray In this case, I converted them from youtube, they are in 320 bit. Adrien -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Ray T. Mahorney Sent: 07 March 2013 14:38 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: lowering bit rate in some mp3 files lets go back to something else here Live Who encoded them and what were the input levels? Lowering either the bit rate or sampling frequency would only further degrade the file or files. Ray T. Mahorney WA4WGA -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Joe Paton Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 11:03 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: lowering bit rate in some mp3 files Adrian, Lowering the bit-rate wil not improve the situation. There may be a number of reasons why you are hearing distortion, and changint the bit-rate will not fix this. When you say distortion, do you mean over mudulation, or are you hearing artifacts in the audio? Joe At 20:29 06/03/2013, you wrote: >Hi > >I have just got my new victor reader stream, when I play one >or two live tracks on the stream, they sound really >distorted because the are in a higher bit rate, would >lowering the bit rate solve this and in what program should >I lower the bit rate? I have easy cd converter as well as >the latest version and sound taxi to name but a few. > >Adrien > > > > >To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: lowering bit rate in some mp3 files
Hi Joe When I listen to them, I hear a lot of distortion or crackling when I have the audio up full. It is difficult to get it at a comfortable level Adrien -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Joe Paton Sent: 07 March 2013 12:03 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: lowering bit rate in some mp3 files Adrian, Lowering the bit-rate wil not improve the situation. There may be a number of reasons why you are hearing distortion, and changint the bit-rate will not fix this. When you say distortion, do you mean over mudulation, or are you hearing artifacts in the audio? Joe At 20:29 06/03/2013, you wrote: >Hi > >I have just got my new victor reader stream, when I play one >or two live tracks on the stream, they sound really >distorted because the are in a higher bit rate, would >lowering the bit rate solve this and in what program should >I lower the bit rate? I have easy cd converter as well as >the latest version and sound taxi to name but a few. > >Adrien > > > > >To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: lowering bit rate in some mp3 files
that won't work is you are already starting with a poor recording. Ray T. Mahorney WA4WGA -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 15:05 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: lowering bit rate in some mp3 files I don't claim to know a whole lot about "bit rate" and all..but as has already been pointed out here: lowering the bit rate (from what little I've figured out) only makes the sound worse! If it's a poor recording to start with, changing the bit rate won't improve it; if anything, to improve quality of sound, it seems to me that one would want to raise the bit rate! Tom Kaufman - Original Message - From: "Ray T. Mahorney" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 8:37 AM Subject: RE: lowering bit rate in some mp3 files > lets go back to something else here Live Who encoded them and what were > the input levels? Lowering > either the bit rate or sampling frequency would only further degrade the > file or files. > > > Ray T. Mahorney > WA4WGA > > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Joe > Paton > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 11:03 > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: lowering bit rate in some mp3 files > > Adrian, > > Lowering the bit-rate wil not improve the situation. There may be a > number of reasons why you are hearing distortion, and changint the > bit-rate will not fix this. > > When you say distortion, do you mean over mudulation, or are you > hearing artifacts in the audio? > > Joe > At 20:29 06/03/2013, you wrote: >>Hi >> >>I have just got my new victor reader stream, when I play one >>or two live tracks on the stream, they sound really >>distorted because the are in a higher bit rate, would >>lowering the bit rate solve this and in what program should >>I lower the bit rate? I have easy cd converter as well as >>the latest version and sound taxi to name but a few. >> >>Adrien >> >> >> >> >>To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: lowering bit rate in some mp3 files
I don't claim to know a whole lot about "bit rate" and all..but as has already been pointed out here: lowering the bit rate (from what little I've figured out) only makes the sound worse! If it's a poor recording to start with, changing the bit rate won't improve it; if anything, to improve quality of sound, it seems to me that one would want to raise the bit rate! Tom Kaufman - Original Message - From: "Ray T. Mahorney" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 8:37 AM Subject: RE: lowering bit rate in some mp3 files lets go back to something else here Live Who encoded them and what were the input levels? Lowering either the bit rate or sampling frequency would only further degrade the file or files. Ray T. Mahorney WA4WGA -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Joe Paton Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 11:03 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: lowering bit rate in some mp3 files Adrian, Lowering the bit-rate wil not improve the situation. There may be a number of reasons why you are hearing distortion, and changint the bit-rate will not fix this. When you say distortion, do you mean over mudulation, or are you hearing artifacts in the audio? Joe At 20:29 06/03/2013, you wrote: Hi I have just got my new victor reader stream, when I play one or two live tracks on the stream, they sound really distorted because the are in a higher bit rate, would lowering the bit rate solve this and in what program should I lower the bit rate? I have easy cd converter as well as the latest version and sound taxi to name but a few. Adrien To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: lowering bit rate in some mp3 files
lets go back to something else here Live Who encoded them and what were the input levels? Lowering either the bit rate or sampling frequency would only further degrade the file or files. Ray T. Mahorney WA4WGA -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Joe Paton Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 11:03 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: lowering bit rate in some mp3 files Adrian, Lowering the bit-rate wil not improve the situation. There may be a number of reasons why you are hearing distortion, and changint the bit-rate will not fix this. When you say distortion, do you mean over mudulation, or are you hearing artifacts in the audio? Joe At 20:29 06/03/2013, you wrote: >Hi > >I have just got my new victor reader stream, when I play one >or two live tracks on the stream, they sound really >distorted because the are in a higher bit rate, would >lowering the bit rate solve this and in what program should >I lower the bit rate? I have easy cd converter as well as >the latest version and sound taxi to name but a few. > >Adrien > > > > >To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: lowering bit rate in some mp3 files
Adrian, Lowering the bit-rate wil not improve the situation. There may be a number of reasons why you are hearing distortion, and changint the bit-rate will not fix this. When you say distortion, do you mean over mudulation, or are you hearing artifacts in the audio? Joe At 20:29 06/03/2013, you wrote: Hi I have just got my new victor reader stream, when I play one or two live tracks on the stream, they sound really distorted because the are in a higher bit rate, would lowering the bit rate solve this and in what program should I lower the bit rate? I have easy cd converter as well as the latest version and sound taxi to name but a few. Adrien To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
