Re: Recording While Moving Around
Hi again. I disagree! I've a Zoom H6. Despite being perhaps the best portable, hand-held, 6 track didgital recorder in the world, it's still nevertheless, noisy, in terms of handling. You simply cannot afford to record anything of quality whilst holding the recorder! This is why we are talking about external microphones after all, isn't it? Very best wishes. Andy. - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtd...@internode.on.net> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 9:34 PM Subject: Re: Recording While Moving Around While I agree with you its better to use external microphones where you can I don't agree that good quality recordings can't be made with a recorders' built-in microphone facilities and it very much depends on the recording application or scenario involved. I made an extremely good recording using the built-in microphones on my Olympus DM4 recorder wrapped in a windsock and placed in my shirt pocket whilst walking about the local supermarket making my purchases and I made another whilst sitting in a nice cosyeatery. If you're doing a Podcast from your desktop then built-in microphones may well do the trick and I'mve used them in the past on my Zoom H1 which I prefer to use for that kind of work unless I'm sitting in front of the computer with the Blue Yeti, a Pop Filter and a Shockmount. On 7/07/2016 11:17 PM, Andy wrote: Hi Kelbie. I have an Olympus DS 50 and have made rather nice recordings from my farm, with all the animal sounds etc. #It's pointless trying to record a good quality recording, using only an in-built microphone on a hand held recorder! I purchased a pair of BSM 90 Binaural microphones, which clip onto my clothing. I think they were about £60, but the quality is fantastic, and I've actually done a couple of out and about podcasts using this set-up and I've been delighted with the quality. So my advice is to look at a paire of binaural clip-on microphones. Very best wishes. Andy. - Original Message - From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarl...@gmail.com> To: <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 1:16 PM Subject: Recording While Moving Around All, This is a rather basic question, but I haven't been able to find a good solution. When using a digital recorder to record an environment, sometimes I need to move around while doing so. Holding the recorder in one hand is not always the best way to do it. Furthermore, sometimes I need to move the recorder just slightly for various reasons. When doing so with an internal microphone, the recorder will catch the touch of my hand on the device; the pickup of the sound is quite noticeable. Unfortunately the recorder i am using (Olympus DM-4) has a tiny carrying case, but it can't readily be attached to anything and it obscures all of the buttons. Any suggestions anyone has would be much appreciated. -- ** Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves
Re: Recording While Moving Around
Hi again. The two microphones combine, like a Y cable into one single cable leading to the jack. These are absolutely beutiful microphones and the quality is superb. Andy. - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtd...@internode.on.net> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 9:39 PM Subject: Re: Recording While Moving Around Okay I found a description for these microphones and I'll quote it below. I suppose you use some sort of adapter plug to allow you to connect both microphones to the 3.5MM stereo external microphone socket? Product Description Our (MM-BSM-9) is hand-made with high quality products to ensure long life and excellent recordings! These omni- directional microphones are smaller than an eraser head of a pencil. Miniature in size each microphone element is mounted into there own durable brass capsules ( approx. 1/4" in diameter x 3/4" long). Six feet of high quality shielded microphone cable exits the rear of each capsule and are terminated into a gold plated 1/8" ( 3.5 mm) stereo plug.Each microphone capsule comes with a "Shure" premium holding clip which is removable and 360 degree rotational that can be used to attach the microphones to any convenient mounting surface. These microphones have a very naturally crisp sound, providing deep bass, smooth mid-range and clean high-range with a frequency response of typically +/-2dB. They can be easily plugged into any Minidisc, Dat or analog recorder that supplies a bias voltage of between 1.5 to 10 volts D.C. (also known as plug in power) at the microphone input jack. Excellent for the following recorders but not limited to: Edirol R9, Kodak Zi8 HD pocket video camera, Olympus DS-40, Olympus LS-10, Tascam DR-01, Tascam DR-03, Tascam DR-05, Tascam DR-07, Yamaha CX, Zoom H1, Zoom H2 and Zoom H4N. On 7/07/2016 11:17 PM, Andy wrote: Hi Kelbie. I have an Olympus DS 50 and have made rather nice recordings from my farm, with all the animal sounds etc. #It's pointless trying to record a good quality recording, using only an in-built microphone on a hand held recorder! I purchased a pair of BSM 90 Binaural microphones, which clip onto my clothing. I think they were about £60, but the quality is fantastic, and I've actually done a couple of out and about podcasts using this set-up and I've been delighted with the quality. So my advice is to look at a paire of binaural clip-on microphones. Very best wishes. Andy. - Original Message - From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarl...@gmail.com> To: <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 1:16 PM Subject: Recording While Moving Around All, This is a rather basic question, but I haven't been able to find a good solution. When using a digital recorder to record an environment, sometimes I need to move around while doing so. Holding the recorder in one hand is not always the best way to do it. Furthermore, sometimes I need to move the recorder just slightly for various reasons. When doing so with an internal microphone, the recorder will catch the touch of my hand on the device; the pickup of the sound is quite noticeable. Unfortunately the recorder i am using (Olympus DM-4) has a tiny carrying case, but it can't readily be attached to anything and it obscures all of the buttons. Any suggestions anyone has would be much appreciated. -- ** Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves
Re: Recording While Moving Around
Okay I found a description for these microphones and I'll quote it below. I suppose you use some sort of adapter plug to allow you to connect both microphones to the 3.5MM stereo external microphone socket? Product Description Our (MM-BSM-9) is hand-made with high quality products to ensure long life and excellent recordings! These omni- directional microphones are smaller than an eraser head of a pencil. Miniature in size each microphone element is mounted into there own durable brass capsules ( approx. 1/4" in diameter x 3/4" long). Six feet of high quality shielded microphone cable exits the rear of each capsule and are terminated into a gold plated 1/8" ( 3.5 mm) stereo plug.Each microphone capsule comes with a "Shure" premium holding clip which is removable and 360 degree rotational that can be used to attach the microphones to any convenient mounting surface. These microphones have a very naturally crisp sound, providing deep bass, smooth mid-range and clean high-range with a frequency response of typically +/-2dB. They can be easily plugged into any Minidisc, Dat or analog recorder that supplies a bias voltage of between 1.5 to 10 volts D.C. (also known as plug in power) at the microphone input jack. Excellent for the following recorders but not limited to: Edirol R9, Kodak Zi8 HD pocket video camera, Olympus DS-40, Olympus LS-10, Tascam DR-01, Tascam DR-03, Tascam DR-05, Tascam DR-07, Yamaha CX, Zoom H1, Zoom H2 and Zoom H4N. On 7/07/2016 11:17 PM, Andy wrote: Hi Kelbie. I have an Olympus DS 50 and have made rather nice recordings from my farm, with all the animal sounds etc. #It's pointless trying to record a good quality recording, using only an in-built microphone on a hand held recorder! I purchased a pair of BSM 90 Binaural microphones, which clip onto my clothing. I think they were about £60, but the quality is fantastic, and I've actually done a couple of out and about podcasts using this set-up and I've been delighted with the quality. So my advice is to look at a paire of binaural clip-on microphones. Very best wishes. Andy. - Original Message - From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarl...@gmail.com> To: <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 1:16 PM Subject: Recording While Moving Around All, This is a rather basic question, but I haven't been able to find a good solution. When using a digital recorder to record an environment, sometimes I need to move around while doing so. Holding the recorder in one hand is not always the best way to do it. Furthermore, sometimes I need to move the recorder just slightly for various reasons. When doing so with an internal microphone, the recorder will catch the touch of my hand on the device; the pickup of the sound is quite noticeable. Unfortunately the recorder i am using (Olympus DM-4) has a tiny carrying case, but it can't readily be attached to anything and it obscures all of the buttons. Any suggestions anyone has would be much appreciated. -- ** Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves
Re: Recording While Moving Around
While I agree with you its better to use external microphones where you can I don't agree that good quality recordings can't be made with a recorders' built-in microphone facilities and it very much depends on the recording application or scenario involved. I made an extremely good recording using the built-in microphones on my Olympus DM4 recorder wrapped in a windsock and placed in my shirt pocket whilst walking about the local supermarket making my purchases and I made another whilst sitting in a nice cosyeatery. If you're doing a Podcast from your desktop then built-in microphones may well do the trick and I'mve used them in the past on my Zoom H1 which I prefer to use for that kind of work unless I'm sitting in front of the computer with the Blue Yeti, a Pop Filter and a Shockmount. On 7/07/2016 11:17 PM, Andy wrote: Hi Kelbie. I have an Olympus DS 50 and have made rather nice recordings from my farm, with all the animal sounds etc. #It's pointless trying to record a good quality recording, using only an in-built microphone on a hand held recorder! I purchased a pair of BSM 90 Binaural microphones, which clip onto my clothing. I think they were about £60, but the quality is fantastic, and I've actually done a couple of out and about podcasts using this set-up and I've been delighted with the quality. So my advice is to look at a paire of binaural clip-on microphones. Very best wishes. Andy. - Original Message - From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarl...@gmail.com> To: <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 1:16 PM Subject: Recording While Moving Around All, This is a rather basic question, but I haven't been able to find a good solution. When using a digital recorder to record an environment, sometimes I need to move around while doing so. Holding the recorder in one hand is not always the best way to do it. Furthermore, sometimes I need to move the recorder just slightly for various reasons. When doing so with an internal microphone, the recorder will catch the touch of my hand on the device; the pickup of the sound is quite noticeable. Unfortunately the recorder i am using (Olympus DM-4) has a tiny carrying case, but it can't readily be attached to anything and it obscures all of the buttons. Any suggestions anyone has would be much appreciated. -- ** Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves
Re: Recording While Moving Around
Put the info into Google Maboy and see what you get. On 7/07/2016 11:31 PM, kelby carlson wrote: THanks. Is there a good way to get a sense of which microphones are worth purchasing? i will probably have to do it online, so if there are any review sites that would be nice. On 7/7/16, Andy <meikle.ai...@btinternet.com> wrote: Hi Kelbie. I have an Olympus DS 50 and have made rather nice recordings from my farm, with all the animal sounds etc. #It's pointless trying to record a good quality recording, using only an in-built microphone on a hand held recorder! I purchased a pair of BSM 90 Binaural microphones, which clip onto my clothing. I think they were about £60, but the quality is fantastic, and I've actually done a couple of out and about podcasts using this set-up and I've been delighted with the quality. So my advice is to look at a paire of binaural clip-on microphones. Very best wishes. Andy. - Original Message - From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarl...@gmail.com> To: <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 1:16 PM Subject: Recording While Moving Around All, This is a rather basic question, but I haven't been able to find a good solution. When using a digital recorder to record an environment, sometimes I need to move around while doing so. Holding the recorder in one hand is not always the best way to do it. Furthermore, sometimes I need to move the recorder just slightly for various reasons. When doing so with an internal microphone, the recorder will catch the touch of my hand on the device; the pickup of the sound is quite noticeable. Unfortunately the recorder i am using (Olympus DM-4) has a tiny carrying case, but it can't readily be attached to anything and it obscures all of the buttons. Any suggestions anyone has would be much appreciated. -- ** Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves
Re: Recording While Moving Around
Thanks for the recommendation , the microphone I described - similar to yours in the way it attaches to clothing - is a one unit small stereo microphone so having a pair would be most practical so I'll have a look with Google in a few moments to see where I may purchase a pair. I On 7/07/2016 11:17 PM, Andy wrote: Hi Kelbie. I have an Olympus DS 50 and have made rather nice recordings from my farm, with all the animal sounds etc. #It's pointless trying to record a good quality recording, using only an in-built microphone on a hand held recorder! I purchased a pair of BSM 90 Binaural microphones, which clip onto my clothing. I think they were about £60, but the quality is fantastic, and I've actually done a couple of out and about podcasts using this set-up and I've been delighted with the quality. So my advice is to look at a paire of binaural clip-on microphones. Very best wishes. Andy. - Original Message - From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarl...@gmail.com> To: <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 1:16 PM Subject: Recording While Moving Around All, This is a rather basic question, but I haven't been able to find a good solution. When using a digital recorder to record an environment, sometimes I need to move around while doing so. Holding the recorder in one hand is not always the best way to do it. Furthermore, sometimes I need to move the recorder just slightly for various reasons. When doing so with an internal microphone, the recorder will catch the touch of my hand on the device; the pickup of the sound is quite noticeable. Unfortunately the recorder i am using (Olympus DM-4) has a tiny carrying case, but it can't readily be attached to anything and it obscures all of the buttons. Any suggestions anyone has would be much appreciated. -- ** Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves
Re: Recording While Moving Around
Yep a very basic question with a very basic answer , use an external microphone with your Dm4 which can be attached to something perminantly as you move. I use several different external microphones for different applications and one of my favourites is one which can clip onto my shirt pocket, collar or lapel. So once the microphone is affixed I have access to the Olympus recorder in my trouser pocket if so desired. Another way to go is to get the DM7 and use the Audio Controller App - naturally this will depend on whether you have an IOS or Android device at your disposal. - Anyway the whole idea of this App is that you control the Olympus recorder from the mobile device using Wi-Fi, that's just part of what the App has to offer and I won't go into the rest of it here as it really won't help the discussion at hand. On 7/07/2016 10:16 PM, kelby carlson wrote: All, This is a rather basic question, but I haven't been able to find a good solution. When using a digital recorder to record an environment, sometimes I need to move around while doing so. Holding the recorder in one hand is not always the best way to do it. Furthermore, sometimes I need to move the recorder just slightly for various reasons. When doing so with an internal microphone, the recorder will catch the touch of my hand on the device; the pickup of the sound is quite noticeable. Unfortunately the recorder i am using (Olympus DM-4) has a tiny carrying case, but it can't readily be attached to anything and it obscures all of the buttons. Any suggestions anyone has would be much appreciated. -- ** Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves
Re: Recording While Moving Around
hi can you please share if you can. Where you can purchase these microphones that are beiaunoral that you talked about in this message. -- Casey
Re: Recording While Moving Around
Hello Kelby, I use a Roland R05 with a pair of Roland CS10EM binaural microphones, which are in-ear microphones. In fact, they are both earphones and microphones combined, so you can listen while recording with just one pair. Hope this helps. On 07/07/2016 13:16, kelby carlson wrote: All, This is a rather basic question, but I haven't been able to find a good solution. When using a digital recorder to record an environment, sometimes I need to move around while doing so. Holding the recorder in one hand is not always the best way to do it. Furthermore, sometimes I need to move the recorder just slightly for various reasons. When doing so with an internal microphone, the recorder will catch the touch of my hand on the device; the pickup of the sound is quite noticeable. Unfortunately the recorder i am using (Olympus DM-4) has a tiny carrying case, but it can't readily be attached to anything and it obscures all of the buttons. Any suggestions anyone has would be much appreciated. -- Regards, Samuel Wilkins
Re: Recording While Moving Around
THanks. Is there a good way to get a sense of which microphones are worth purchasing? i will probably have to do it online, so if there are any review sites that would be nice. On 7/7/16, Andy <meikle.ai...@btinternet.com> wrote: > Hi Kelbie. > > I have an Olympus DS 50 and have made rather nice recordings from my farm, > with all the animal sounds etc. > > #It's pointless trying to record a good quality recording, using only an > in-built microphone on a hand held recorder! > > I purchased a pair of BSM 90 Binaural microphones, which clip onto my > clothing. I think they were about £60, but the quality is fantastic, and > I've actually done a couple of out and about podcasts using this set-up and > > I've been delighted with the quality. > > So my advice is to look at a paire of binaural clip-on microphones. > > Very best wishes. > Andy. > > - Original Message - > From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarl...@gmail.com> > To: <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 1:16 PM > Subject: Recording While Moving Around > > >> All, >> >> This is a rather basic question, but I haven't been able to find a >> good solution. When using a digital recorder to record an environment, >> sometimes I need to move around while doing so. Holding the recorder >> in one hand is not always the best way to do it. Furthermore, >> sometimes I need to move the recorder just slightly for various >> reasons. When doing so with an internal microphone, the recorder will >> catch the touch of my hand on the device; the pickup of the sound is >> quite noticeable. Unfortunately the recorder i am using (Olympus DM-4) >> has a tiny carrying case, but it can't readily be attached to anything >> and it obscures all of the buttons. >> >> Any suggestions anyone has would be much appreciated. >> > > >
Re: Recording While Moving Around
Hi Kelbie. I have an Olympus DS 50 and have made rather nice recordings from my farm, with all the animal sounds etc. #It's pointless trying to record a good quality recording, using only an in-built microphone on a hand held recorder! I purchased a pair of BSM 90 Binaural microphones, which clip onto my clothing. I think they were about £60, but the quality is fantastic, and I've actually done a couple of out and about podcasts using this set-up and I've been delighted with the quality. So my advice is to look at a paire of binaural clip-on microphones. Very best wishes. Andy. - Original Message - From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarl...@gmail.com> To: <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 1:16 PM Subject: Recording While Moving Around All, This is a rather basic question, but I haven't been able to find a good solution. When using a digital recorder to record an environment, sometimes I need to move around while doing so. Holding the recorder in one hand is not always the best way to do it. Furthermore, sometimes I need to move the recorder just slightly for various reasons. When doing so with an internal microphone, the recorder will catch the touch of my hand on the device; the pickup of the sound is quite noticeable. Unfortunately the recorder i am using (Olympus DM-4) has a tiny carrying case, but it can't readily be attached to anything and it obscures all of the buttons. Any suggestions anyone has would be much appreciated.
Recording While Moving Around
All, This is a rather basic question, but I haven't been able to find a good solution. When using a digital recorder to record an environment, sometimes I need to move around while doing so. Holding the recorder in one hand is not always the best way to do it. Furthermore, sometimes I need to move the recorder just slightly for various reasons. When doing so with an internal microphone, the recorder will catch the touch of my hand on the device; the pickup of the sound is quite noticeable. Unfortunately the recorder i am using (Olympus DM-4) has a tiny carrying case, but it can't readily be attached to anything and it obscures all of the buttons. Any suggestions anyone has would be much appreciated.