Re: ZenStone Question

2010-02-18 Thread Tim Grady
Well, the only other two things I would are first, try using another USB cable 
and if that doesn't try updating the firmware.  If neither one of those things 
work then you might want to find out whether you could reformat it.  If nothing 
works it's two cheap to think of repairing, you might want to replace it with 
something else.
On Feb 17, 2010, at 9:54 AM, Vicki wrote:

> I always use the safely remove hardware feature. I've had it for almost two 
> years, and this just started in the last couple of months.
> My heart is in his hands. His heart is in my soul.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Tim Grady" 
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 8:59 AM
> Subject: Re: ZenStone Question
> 
> 
> If you are using a windows computer are you using the safely remove hardware 
> option before disconnecting the Zenstone?  If you are using a mac are you 
> ejecting the Zenstone before disconnecting it?  In either case that's one 
> reason that could be happening.
> On Feb 17, 2010, at 4:43 AM, Vicki wrote:
> 
>> I've been having an unusual problem with my Zenstone the last couple of
>> months, and I'm hoping someone has a solution for me.
>> 
>> Sometimes when I delete files from the ZenStone, they show up as deleted,
>> however, when I unplug it from the computer and listen, they are still
>> there. They show up nowhere, so it's impossible to get them off without
>> reformatting the Zenstone. That means reinstalling everything I want on
>> there again just to remove things that are taking up space and not showing
>> up.
>> 
>> Does anyone know what causes this and what I can do to either prevent it
>> from happening or get rid of those invisible files without reformatting 
>> the
>> entire Zenstone?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Vicki
>> 
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Re: ZenStone Question

2010-02-18 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I haven't seen these issues either, but I'd suggest trying the same 
things, i.e. a hard reset of the player and if that doesn't resolve the 
problem then reformat the player and then a FW update if the problem 
still persists. Good luck!





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On 2/17/2010 9:08 PM, Don Lorah wrote:

Another problem with Zenstone
  My Zenstone, 1 gb, goes back about 1/2 hours after recharging; and goes to
the beginning of the book after about 7-8 hours of play.  Any solution??
thanks, Don- Original Message -
From: "Christopher Chaltain"
To: "PC Audio Discussion List"
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: ZenStone Question


This is not my understanding of how USB drives work. I tried to find a
good reference to point to but I couldn't find one because I got so many
hits for utilities to create the equivalent of a recycle bin on a USB
drive. I'm pretty confident that Windows doesn't place a recycle bin on
your USB drive or your Zen Stone. I know I've never seen one on any of
my USB drives, and I've never mysteriously lost space on a USB drive to
a hidden recycle bin. I've also never had the problem where the Zen
Stone would play files that I had deleted.

Have you tried a hard reset on your Zen Stone, i.e. using a pin to press
the pin hole reset button? There may be a problem with your running
firmware. It looks like someone deleted the beginning of the thread
below, but I think I heard you say that reformatting the Zen Stone
temporarily fixes the problem. If resetting the Zen Stone doesn't take
care of it, you might try updating the FW on the Zen Stone. I haven't
done this in a while, but I think there are several ways to do this,
i.e. use Creative Media Lite or download a FW updating executable.

I'm also no filesystems expert, but I would think removing you're Zen
Stone without using the safely remove option could result in the
corruption of your Zen Stone's filesystem. I would think that once your
filesystem was corrupted, "results would be unpredictable" as they say,
and you could definitely be seeing the symptoms of such a corruption.

Good luck!






Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com<mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>




On 2/17/2010 1:22 PM, Laz Mesa wrote:
   

Hi Vicki,

When you delete files from the player, use the shift plus delete key
combination instead of just pressing the delete key.  If you just use
the delete key, it sends it to a recycle bin on your player, which
can't be seen when you look for it, and you'll have all those deleted
files taking up storage space.  Thank you Bill Gates!

Whether you safely remove the player or not has nothing to do with
this problem.  Not safely removing your player causes some other more
serious problems though.

You may have to reformat your player to get rid of the current
*deleted* files, but it shouldn't be a problem anymore if you delete
them as described above.

Regards,

Laz


 

I always use the safely remove hardware feature. I've had it for almost
two
years, and this just started in the last couple of months.
My heart is in his hands. His heart is in my soul.
----- Original Message -
From: "Tim Grady"
To: "PC Audio Discussion List"
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: ZenStone Question


If you are using a windows computer are you using the safely remove
hardware
option before disconnecting the Zenstone?  If you are using a mac are you
ejecting the Zenstone before disconnecting it?  In either case that's one
reason that could be happening.

   

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Re: ZenStone Question

2010-02-17 Thread Don Lorah
Another problem with Zenstone
 My Zenstone, 1 gb, goes back about 1/2 hours after recharging; and goes to 
the beginning of the book after about 7-8 hours of play.  Any solution?? 
thanks, Don- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: ZenStone Question


This is not my understanding of how USB drives work. I tried to find a
good reference to point to but I couldn't find one because I got so many
hits for utilities to create the equivalent of a recycle bin on a USB
drive. I'm pretty confident that Windows doesn't place a recycle bin on
your USB drive or your Zen Stone. I know I've never seen one on any of
my USB drives, and I've never mysteriously lost space on a USB drive to
a hidden recycle bin. I've also never had the problem where the Zen
Stone would play files that I had deleted.

Have you tried a hard reset on your Zen Stone, i.e. using a pin to press
the pin hole reset button? There may be a problem with your running
firmware. It looks like someone deleted the beginning of the thread
below, but I think I heard you say that reformatting the Zen Stone
temporarily fixes the problem. If resetting the Zen Stone doesn't take
care of it, you might try updating the FW on the Zen Stone. I haven't
done this in a while, but I think there are several ways to do this,
i.e. use Creative Media Lite or download a FW updating executable.

I'm also no filesystems expert, but I would think removing you're Zen
Stone without using the safely remove option could result in the
corruption of your Zen Stone's filesystem. I would think that once your
filesystem was corrupted, "results would be unpredictable" as they say,
and you could definitely be seeing the symptoms of such a corruption.

Good luck!






Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>




On 2/17/2010 1:22 PM, Laz Mesa wrote:
> Hi Vicki,
>
> When you delete files from the player, use the shift plus delete key
> combination instead of just pressing the delete key.  If you just use
> the delete key, it sends it to a recycle bin on your player, which
> can't be seen when you look for it, and you'll have all those deleted
> files taking up storage space.  Thank you Bill Gates!
>
> Whether you safely remove the player or not has nothing to do with
> this problem.  Not safely removing your player causes some other more
> serious problems though.
>
> You may have to reformat your player to get rid of the current
> *deleted* files, but it shouldn't be a problem anymore if you delete
> them as described above.
>
> Regards,
>
> Laz
>
>
>> I always use the safely remove hardware feature. I've had it for almost 
>> two
>> years, and this just started in the last couple of months.
>> My heart is in his hands. His heart is in my soul.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Tim Grady"
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List"
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 8:59 AM
>> Subject: Re: ZenStone Question
>>
>>
>> If you are using a windows computer are you using the safely remove 
>> hardware
>> option before disconnecting the Zenstone?  If you are using a mac are you
>> ejecting the Zenstone before disconnecting it?  In either case that's one
>> reason that could be happening.
>>
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Re: ZenStone Question

2010-02-17 Thread Christopher Chaltain
This is not my understanding of how USB drives work. I tried to find a 
good reference to point to but I couldn't find one because I got so many 
hits for utilities to create the equivalent of a recycle bin on a USB 
drive. I'm pretty confident that Windows doesn't place a recycle bin on 
your USB drive or your Zen Stone. I know I've never seen one on any of 
my USB drives, and I've never mysteriously lost space on a USB drive to 
a hidden recycle bin. I've also never had the problem where the Zen 
Stone would play files that I had deleted.


Have you tried a hard reset on your Zen Stone, i.e. using a pin to press 
the pin hole reset button? There may be a problem with your running 
firmware. It looks like someone deleted the beginning of the thread 
below, but I think I heard you say that reformatting the Zen Stone 
temporarily fixes the problem. If resetting the Zen Stone doesn't take 
care of it, you might try updating the FW on the Zen Stone. I haven't 
done this in a while, but I think there are several ways to do this, 
i.e. use Creative Media Lite or download a FW updating executable.


I'm also no filesystems expert, but I would think removing you're Zen 
Stone without using the safely remove option could result in the 
corruption of your Zen Stone's filesystem. I would think that once your 
filesystem was corrupted, "results would be unpredictable" as they say, 
and you could definitely be seeing the symptoms of such a corruption.


Good luck!






Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>




On 2/17/2010 1:22 PM, Laz Mesa wrote:

Hi Vicki,

When you delete files from the player, use the shift plus delete key
combination instead of just pressing the delete key.  If you just use
the delete key, it sends it to a recycle bin on your player, which
can't be seen when you look for it, and you'll have all those deleted
files taking up storage space.  Thank you Bill Gates!

Whether you safely remove the player or not has nothing to do with
this problem.  Not safely removing your player causes some other more
serious problems though.

You may have to reformat your player to get rid of the current
*deleted* files, but it shouldn't be a problem anymore if you delete
them as described above.

Regards,

Laz

   

I always use the safely remove hardware feature. I've had it for almost two
years, and this just started in the last couple of months.
My heart is in his hands. His heart is in my soul.
- Original Message -
From: "Tim Grady"
To: "PC Audio Discussion List"
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: ZenStone Question


If you are using a windows computer are you using the safely remove hardware
option before disconnecting the Zenstone?  If you are using a mac are you
ejecting the Zenstone before disconnecting it?  In either case that's one
reason that could be happening.
 

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Re: ZenStone Question

2010-02-17 Thread Laz Mesa
Hi Vicki,

When you delete files from the player, use the shift plus delete key
combination instead of just pressing the delete key.  If you just use
the delete key, it sends it to a recycle bin on your player, which
can't be seen when you look for it, and you'll have all those deleted
files taking up storage space.  Thank you Bill Gates!

Whether you safely remove the player or not has nothing to do with
this problem.  Not safely removing your player causes some other more
serious problems though.

You may have to reformat your player to get rid of the current
*deleted* files, but it shouldn't be a problem anymore if you delete
them as described above.

Regards,

Laz

> I always use the safely remove hardware feature. I've had it for almost two
> years, and this just started in the last couple of months.
> My heart is in his hands. His heart is in my soul.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tim Grady" 
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 8:59 AM
> Subject: Re: ZenStone Question
>
>
> If you are using a windows computer are you using the safely remove hardware
> option before disconnecting the Zenstone?  If you are using a mac are you
> ejecting the Zenstone before disconnecting it?  In either case that's one
> reason that could be happening.
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Re: ZenStone Question

2010-02-17 Thread Vicki
I always use the safely remove hardware feature. I've had it for almost two 
years, and this just started in the last couple of months.
My heart is in his hands. His heart is in my soul.
- Original Message - 
From: "Tim Grady" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: ZenStone Question


If you are using a windows computer are you using the safely remove hardware 
option before disconnecting the Zenstone?  If you are using a mac are you 
ejecting the Zenstone before disconnecting it?  In either case that's one 
reason that could be happening.
On Feb 17, 2010, at 4:43 AM, Vicki wrote:

> I've been having an unusual problem with my Zenstone the last couple of
> months, and I'm hoping someone has a solution for me.
>
> Sometimes when I delete files from the ZenStone, they show up as deleted,
> however, when I unplug it from the computer and listen, they are still
> there. They show up nowhere, so it's impossible to get them off without
> reformatting the Zenstone. That means reinstalling everything I want on
> there again just to remove things that are taking up space and not showing
> up.
>
> Does anyone know what causes this and what I can do to either prevent it
> from happening or get rid of those invisible files without reformatting 
> the
> entire Zenstone?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Vicki
>
> My heart is in his hands. His heart is in my soul.
>
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Re: ZenStone Question

2010-02-17 Thread Tim Grady
If you are using a windows computer are you using the safely remove hardware 
option before disconnecting the Zenstone?  If you are using a mac are you 
ejecting the Zenstone before disconnecting it?  In either case that's one 
reason that could be happening.
On Feb 17, 2010, at 4:43 AM, Vicki wrote:

> I've been having an unusual problem with my Zenstone the last couple of 
> months, and I'm hoping someone has a solution for me.
> 
> Sometimes when I delete files from the ZenStone, they show up as deleted, 
> however, when I unplug it from the computer and listen, they are still 
> there. They show up nowhere, so it's impossible to get them off without 
> reformatting the Zenstone. That means reinstalling everything I want on 
> there again just to remove things that are taking up space and not showing 
> up.
> 
> Does anyone know what causes this and what I can do to either prevent it 
> from happening or get rid of those invisible files without reformatting the 
> entire Zenstone?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Vicki
> 
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ZenStone Question

2010-02-17 Thread Vicki
I've been having an unusual problem with my Zenstone the last couple of 
months, and I'm hoping someone has a solution for me.

Sometimes when I delete files from the ZenStone, they show up as deleted, 
however, when I unplug it from the computer and listen, they are still 
there. They show up nowhere, so it's impossible to get them off without 
reformatting the Zenstone. That means reinstalling everything I want on 
there again just to remove things that are taking up space and not showing 
up.

Does anyone know what causes this and what I can do to either prevent it 
from happening or get rid of those invisible files without reformatting the 
entire Zenstone?

Thanks.

Vicki

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Re: zenstone question

2008-03-06 Thread tickpub
No, dont use the menue, just sort of learned the moves with the smaller
zenstone and it works ok. I do have some frustration but that is nothing
new to me.
I'm still lerning, and it would be nice if someone made a Pod cast for
the zenstone plus!
MMM
 
On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 20:37:45 -0700 "Bobcat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> Michael.  Are you able to reliably navigate the menus on the Zen 
> Stone Plus? 
> Can you get to the voice recorder and FM tuner?
> 
> I read the manual but it wasn't clear how the menu structure works, 
> if it 
> wraps, or remembers weather you left off, etcetera.
> 
> Bob
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
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> Subject: zenstone question
> 
> 
> > Hi all, I own both the zenstone and the zenstone plus which is the 
> 1gig
> > unit. I love them both, but the smaller zenstone which has the 
> switch on
> > top instead of the push bar is much better to work with. You do 
> not need
> > any software but as one other person mentioned, you only need to 
> plug it
> > into the usb port, charge it and that is it.
> > You really dont need a manual but go to the blind geek web site 
> and there
> > you can listen to an audio file on the zenstone.
> > I like the larger unit for space, but rather would own the less 
> expensive
> > and more useable one instead.
> > Take care and that is what I know
> > MMM
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Re: zenstone question

2008-03-06 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I've never used Creative Media Lite without the scripts, so I don't know 
how usable it is without them, but it doesn't seem like a very 
complicated application. BTW, according to the web page, here are the 
features of the scripts:
• Most of the buttons speak their names as you use Tab, Shift+Tab or 
Insert+Tab. There is still a bit of work to be done in the Settings 
Dialog of the CD ripper as the fields do not speak correctly but this 
will come in time.
• When you Tab into the main drive list or the Zen player contents list, 
the individual list is identified.
• F12 activates the Audio CD rip Button.
• Usefully, you can now check or uncheck the songs to be extracted from 
a CD from the list by pressing Space Bar.
JAWS will announce if the song is checked or unchecked.
• ALT+Control+V will allow you to set the maximum volume of the player 
and access the parental controls.
• ALT+Control+U enables updates to be accessed via the Internet.
• F11 tells you the charge of the player and the amount of free space.
• A small amount of Hotkey Help is available.

Chris Skarstad wrote:
> Yep, and let's take this a step further, I actually did give the 
> creative media lite software a look, i wanted to know what it was all 
> about.  I was able to use it just fine, I was surprised to hear 
> someone had created scripts for it.  That's one of those situations 
> where I think scripts are kind of unnecessary, but at the same time, 
> i'm glad they're out there for folks who want them. I like being able 
> to hook up the zen stone, copy files to it, unplug it and take it 
> with me.  no muss, no fuss, just straight file transfering.  That's 
> how it should be, least to me.
>
> At 01:26 AM 3/5/2008, you wrote:
>   
>> Right On, that is what I wanted to say but you beat me to it, great an
>> good for this group!
>> MMM
>> On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:07:39 -0600 Chris Skarstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> writes:
>> 
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> and just to clarify once more.  The Creative Media Lite software is
>>>
>>> not needed to transfer files to the Zen Stone.  Sure, you can use
>>> it,
>>> but the regular copy and paste way, for me at least, works a whole
>>> lot faster and easier.  In fact that's why I got the Zen Stone,
>>> because it doesn't require any kind of special software to transfer
>>>
>>> files.  I don't even know why the Media Lite software exists because
>>>
>>> you really don't need it.  I guess people like to use those software
>>>
>>> interfaces for transfering files.
>>>
>>> At 08:21 AM 3/4/2008, you wrote:
>>>   
>>>> You aren't missing anything.  What you say is correct.
>>>> On Mar 4, 2008, at 1:55 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>> I apologize if I'm missing something, but the Zen Stone does
>>>>>   
>>> have a
>>>   
>>>>> fast
>>>>> forwarder feature. If you hold the right edge of the navigation
>>>>>   
>>> circle
>>>   
>>>>> down, and keep it pressed down, it'll fast forward through the
>>>>>   
>>> current
>>>   
>>>>> file. It is true that it won't retain your place in a file if
>>>>>   
>>> you jump
>>>   
>>>>> to another file. I don't understand the statement about being
>>>>> connected
>>>>> to the computer.
>>>>>
>>>>> albert griffith wrote:
>>>>>   
>>>>>> I have the latest firmware and this has nothing to do with its
>>>>>> ability to
>>>>>> forward within files since it's not connected to the computer
>>>>>> 
>>> when
>>>   
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> function is called for.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>> 
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>   
>>>>>> ]
>>>>>> On Behalf Of Tim Grady
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 5:16 PM
>>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: zenstone question
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Deppends on what you are doing with it and whether or not you
>>>>>> 
>>> have
>>>   

Re: zenstone question

2008-03-05 Thread Bobcat
Michael.  Are you able to reliably navigate the menus on the Zen Stone Plus? 
Can you get to the voice recorder and FM tuner?

I read the manual but it wasn't clear how the menu structure works, if it 
wraps, or remembers weather you left off, etcetera.

Bob

- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 12:08 AM
Subject: zenstone question


> Hi all, I own both the zenstone and the zenstone plus which is the 1gig
> unit. I love them both, but the smaller zenstone which has the switch on
> top instead of the push bar is much better to work with. You do not need
> any software but as one other person mentioned, you only need to plug it
> into the usb port, charge it and that is it.
> You really dont need a manual but go to the blind geek web site and there
> you can listen to an audio file on the zenstone.
> I like the larger unit for space, but rather would own the less expensive
> and more useable one instead.
> Take care and that is what I know
> MMM
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Re: zenstone question

2008-03-05 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Yes, if, while listening to a file,  you just press the wheel once, 
it'll skip to the next file. If you hold the edge of the wheel down, and 
keep holding it down, you'll hear the player fast forward through the 
current file. I don't think the repeat key will change this behavior. I 
think it just determines which file you'll jump to.

albert griffith wrote:
> I'm going to try to update the firmware but are you saying that pressing the
> wheel for a short time skips to another file while holding it longer moves
> through the present one?  Also does the position of the repeat switch effect
> this feature?  thanks 
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Rick Harmon
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 12:11 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: zenstone question
>
> no that's not true.  It works as I said here on my zen stone.  either you
> are doing something wrong or maybe you have an older firmware?
>
> Rick
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "albert griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 10:52 PM
> Subject: RE: zenstone question
>
>
> Rick, when I do that it moves to the next file.  Possibly if I only put one
> file on it that might work.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Rick Harmon
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 8:44 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: zenstone question
>
> incorrect it does have forwarding and reversing.  hold down on the right or
> left buttons and you will seek forward and backwards through the current
> playing file.
>
> Rick
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "albert griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 11:00 AM
> Subject: RE: zenstone question
>
>
> While the zen stone can be stopped resuming at the same place in a file, it
> won't hold if you switch to another file and come back to the original.  It
> also has no forwarding abilities, you can only jump from file to file.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 2:09 AM
> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
> Subject: zenstone question
>
> Hi all, I own both the zenstone and the zenstone plus which is the 1gig
> unit. I love them both, but the smaller zenstone which has the switch on top
> instead of the push bar is much better to work with. You do not need any
> software but as one other person mentioned, you only need to plug it into
> the usb port, charge it and that is it.
> You really dont need a manual but go to the blind geek web site and there
> you can listen to an audio file on the zenstone.
> I like the larger unit for space, but rather would own the less expensive
> and more useable one instead.
> Take care and that is what I know
> MMM
> Michael Thanks You...
> TickTalk Publishing Invites You...
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Re: zenstone question

2008-03-05 Thread tickpub
Right On, that is what I wanted to say but you beat me to it, great an
good for this group!
MMM 
On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:07:39 -0600 Chris Skarstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> Hi
> 
> and just to clarify once more.  The Creative Media Lite software is 
> 
> not needed to transfer files to the Zen Stone.  Sure, you can use 
> it, 
> but the regular copy and paste way, for me at least, works a whole 
> lot faster and easier.  In fact that's why I got the Zen Stone, 
> because it doesn't require any kind of special software to transfer 
> 
> files.  I don't even know why the Media Lite software exists because 
> 
> you really don't need it.  I guess people like to use those software 
> 
> interfaces for transfering files.
> 
> At 08:21 AM 3/4/2008, you wrote:
> >You aren't missing anything.  What you say is correct.
> >On Mar 4, 2008, at 1:55 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> >
> > > I apologize if I'm missing something, but the Zen Stone does 
> have a
> > > fast
> > > forwarder feature. If you hold the right edge of the navigation 
> circle
> > > down, and keep it pressed down, it'll fast forward through the 
> current
> > > file. It is true that it won't retain your place in a file if 
> you jump
> > > to another file. I don't understand the statement about being
> > > connected
> > > to the computer.
> > >
> > > albert griffith wrote:
> > >> I have the latest firmware and this has nothing to do with its
> > >> ability to
> > >> forward within files since it's not connected to the computer 
> when
> > >> this
> > >> function is called for.
> > >>
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> ]
> > >> On Behalf Of Tim Grady
> > >> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 5:16 PM
> > >> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> > >> Subject: Re: zenstone question
> > >>
> > >> Deppends on what you are doing with it and whether or not you 
> have
> > >> the
> > >> latest firmware.
> > >> On Mar 3, 2008, at 11:00 AM, albert griffith wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> While the zen stone can be stopped resuming at the same place 
> in a
> > >>> file, it won't hold if you switch to another file and come 
> back to
> > >>> the
> > >>> original.  It also has no forwarding abilities, you can only 
> jump
> > >>> from
> > >>> file to file.
> > >>>
> > >>> -Original Message-
> > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>> ]
> > >>> On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 2:09 AM
> > >>> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
> > >>> Subject: zenstone question
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi all, I own both the zenstone and the zenstone plus which is 
> the
> > >>> 1gig unit. I love them both, but the smaller zenstone which 
> has the
> > >>> switch on top instead of the push bar is much better to work 
> with.
> > >>> You
> > >>> do not need any software but as one other person mentioned, 
> you only
> > >>> need to plug it into the usb port, charge it and that is it.
> > >>> You really dont need a manual but go to the blind geek web 
> site and
> > >>> there you can listen to an audio file on the zenstone.
> > >>> I like the larger unit for space, but rather would own the 
> less
> > >>> expensive and more useable one instead.
> > >>> Take care and that is what I know
> > >>> MMM
> > >>> Michael Thanks You...
> > >>> TickTalk Publishing Invites You...
> > >>> And www.ticktalk.net Welcomes You...
> > >>> Read Our Stories And Have A Better Life!
> > >>>
> > >>>
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RE: zenstone question

2008-03-05 Thread albert griffith
I'm going to try to update the firmware but are you saying that pressing the
wheel for a short time skips to another file while holding it longer moves
through the present one?  Also does the position of the repeat switch effect
this feature?  thanks 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Rick Harmon
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 12:11 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: zenstone question

no that's not true.  It works as I said here on my zen stone.  either you
are doing something wrong or maybe you have an older firmware?

Rick

- Original Message -
From: "albert griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 10:52 PM
Subject: RE: zenstone question


Rick, when I do that it moves to the next file.  Possibly if I only put one
file on it that might work.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Rick Harmon
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 8:44 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: zenstone question

incorrect it does have forwarding and reversing.  hold down on the right or
left buttons and you will seek forward and backwards through the current
playing file.

Rick

- Original Message -
From: "albert griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 11:00 AM
Subject: RE: zenstone question


While the zen stone can be stopped resuming at the same place in a file, it
won't hold if you switch to another file and come back to the original.  It
also has no forwarding abilities, you can only jump from file to file.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 2:09 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: zenstone question

Hi all, I own both the zenstone and the zenstone plus which is the 1gig
unit. I love them both, but the smaller zenstone which has the switch on top
instead of the push bar is much better to work with. You do not need any
software but as one other person mentioned, you only need to plug it into
the usb port, charge it and that is it.
You really dont need a manual but go to the blind geek web site and there
you can listen to an audio file on the zenstone.
I like the larger unit for space, but rather would own the less expensive
and more useable one instead.
Take care and that is what I know
MMM
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Re: zenstone question

2008-03-05 Thread Chris Skarstad
Yep, and let's take this a step further, I actually did give the 
creative media lite software a look, i wanted to know what it was all 
about.  I was able to use it just fine, I was surprised to hear 
someone had created scripts for it.  That's one of those situations 
where I think scripts are kind of unnecessary, but at the same time, 
i'm glad they're out there for folks who want them. I like being able 
to hook up the zen stone, copy files to it, unplug it and take it 
with me.  no muss, no fuss, just straight file transfering.  That's 
how it should be, least to me.

At 01:26 AM 3/5/2008, you wrote:
>Right On, that is what I wanted to say but you beat me to it, great an
>good for this group!
>MMM
>On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:07:39 -0600 Chris Skarstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>writes:
> > Hi
> >
> > and just to clarify once more.  The Creative Media Lite software is
> >
> > not needed to transfer files to the Zen Stone.  Sure, you can use
> > it,
> > but the regular copy and paste way, for me at least, works a whole
> > lot faster and easier.  In fact that's why I got the Zen Stone,
> > because it doesn't require any kind of special software to transfer
> >
> > files.  I don't even know why the Media Lite software exists because
> >
> > you really don't need it.  I guess people like to use those software
> >
> > interfaces for transfering files.
> >
> > At 08:21 AM 3/4/2008, you wrote:
> > >You aren't missing anything.  What you say is correct.
> > >On Mar 4, 2008, at 1:55 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> > >
> > > > I apologize if I'm missing something, but the Zen Stone does
> > have a
> > > > fast
> > > > forwarder feature. If you hold the right edge of the navigation
> > circle
> > > > down, and keep it pressed down, it'll fast forward through the
> > current
> > > > file. It is true that it won't retain your place in a file if
> > you jump
> > > > to another file. I don't understand the statement about being
> > > > connected
> > > > to the computer.
> > > >
> > > > albert griffith wrote:
> > > >> I have the latest firmware and this has nothing to do with its
> > > >> ability to
> > > >> forward within files since it's not connected to the computer
> > when
> > > >> this
> > > >> function is called for.
> > > >>
> > > >> -Original Message-
> > > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >> ]
> > > >> On Behalf Of Tim Grady
> > > >> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 5:16 PM
> > > >> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> > > >> Subject: Re: zenstone question
> > > >>
> > > >> Deppends on what you are doing with it and whether or not you
> > have
> > > >> the
> > > >> latest firmware.
> > > >> On Mar 3, 2008, at 11:00 AM, albert griffith wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> While the zen stone can be stopped resuming at the same place
> > in a
> > > >>> file, it won't hold if you switch to another file and come
> > back to
> > > >>> the
> > > >>> original.  It also has no forwarding abilities, you can only
> > jump
> > > >>> from
> > > >>> file to file.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -Original Message-
> > > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>> ]
> > > >>> On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 2:09 AM
> > > >>> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
> > > >>> Subject: zenstone question
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Hi all, I own both the zenstone and the zenstone plus which is
> > the
> > > >>> 1gig unit. I love them both, but the smaller zenstone which
> > has the
> > > >>> switch on top instead of the push bar is much better to work
> > with.
> > > >>> You
> > > >>> do not need any software but as one other person mentioned,
> > you only
> > > >>> need to plug it into the usb port, charge it and that is it.
> > > >>> You really dont need a manual but go to the blind geek web
> > site and
> > > >>> 

Re: zenstone question

2008-03-05 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I too just use Windows Explorer to copy files to my Zen Stone, but to 
answer your question as to why the Creative Lite Media software exists, 
here are a few features it has besides just allowing you to copy files 
to your player:
- determine the amount of charge on the Zen Stone's battery,
- rip files directly from a CD to your Zen Stone,
- determine the level of firmware on your Zen Stone,
- find and install updates to the firmware on your Zen Stone,
- format your Zen Stone and
- set a maximum volume on your Zen Stone.
I don't use these features often, and for the most part, they aren't 
necessary to use the player, but it has these features, so I'll keep 
pointing people to the URL where they can download this software and the 
corresponding JFW scripts.

Chris Skarstad wrote:
> Hi
>
> and just to clarify once more.  The Creative Media Lite software is 
> not needed to transfer files to the Zen Stone.  Sure, you can use it, 
> but the regular copy and paste way, for me at least, works a whole 
> lot faster and easier.  In fact that's why I got the Zen Stone, 
> because it doesn't require any kind of special software to transfer 
> files.  I don't even know why the Media Lite software exists because 
> you really don't need it.  I guess people like to use those software 
> interfaces for transfering files.
>
> At 08:21 AM 3/4/2008, you wrote:
>   
>> You aren't missing anything.  What you say is correct.
>> On Mar 4, 2008, at 1:55 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> I apologize if I'm missing something, but the Zen Stone does have a
>>> fast
>>> forwarder feature. If you hold the right edge of the navigation circle
>>> down, and keep it pressed down, it'll fast forward through the current
>>> file. It is true that it won't retain your place in a file if you jump
>>> to another file. I don't understand the statement about being
>>> connected
>>> to the computer.
>>>
>>> albert griffith wrote:
>>>   
>>>> I have the latest firmware and this has nothing to do with its
>>>> ability to
>>>> forward within files since it's not connected to the computer when
>>>> this
>>>> function is called for.
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> ]
>>>> On Behalf Of Tim Grady
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 5:16 PM
>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>> Subject: Re: zenstone question
>>>>
>>>> Deppends on what you are doing with it and whether or not you have
>>>> the
>>>> latest firmware.
>>>> On Mar 3, 2008, at 11:00 AM, albert griffith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>> While the zen stone can be stopped resuming at the same place in a
>>>>> file, it won't hold if you switch to another file and come back to
>>>>> the
>>>>> original.  It also has no forwarding abilities, you can only jump
>>>>> from
>>>>> file to file.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> ]
>>>>> On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 2:09 AM
>>>>> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
>>>>> Subject: zenstone question
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all, I own both the zenstone and the zenstone plus which is the
>>>>> 1gig unit. I love them both, but the smaller zenstone which has the
>>>>> switch on top instead of the push bar is much better to work with.
>>>>> You
>>>>> do not need any software but as one other person mentioned, you only
>>>>> need to plug it into the usb port, charge it and that is it.
>>>>> You really dont need a manual but go to the blind geek web site and
>>>>> there you can listen to an audio file on the zenstone.
>>>>> I like the larger unit for space, but rather would own the less
>>>>> expensive and more useable one instead.
>>>>> Take care and that is what I know
>>>>> MMM
>>>>> Michael Thanks You...
>>>>> TickTalk Publishing Invites You...
>>>>> And www.ticktalk.net Welcomes You...
>>>>> Read Our Stories And Have A Better Life!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archiv

RE: zenstone question

2008-03-04 Thread albert griffith
It should be noted their automatic update software doesn't work with Vista
yet.  That surprises me since they're such a large company and all. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 7:54 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: zenstone question

I too just use Windows Explorer to copy files to my Zen Stone, but to answer
your question as to why the Creative Lite Media software exists, here are a
few features it has besides just allowing you to copy files to your player:
- determine the amount of charge on the Zen Stone's battery,
- rip files directly from a CD to your Zen Stone,
- determine the level of firmware on your Zen Stone,
- find and install updates to the firmware on your Zen Stone,
- format your Zen Stone and
- set a maximum volume on your Zen Stone.
I don't use these features often, and for the most part, they aren't
necessary to use the player, but it has these features, so I'll keep
pointing people to the URL where they can download this software and the
corresponding JFW scripts.

Chris Skarstad wrote:
> Hi
>
> and just to clarify once more.  The Creative Media Lite software is 
> not needed to transfer files to the Zen Stone.  Sure, you can use it, 
> but the regular copy and paste way, for me at least, works a whole lot 
> faster and easier.  In fact that's why I got the Zen Stone, because it 
> doesn't require any kind of special software to transfer files.  I 
> don't even know why the Media Lite software exists because you really 
> don't need it.  I guess people like to use those software interfaces 
> for transfering files.
>
> At 08:21 AM 3/4/2008, you wrote:
>   
>> You aren't missing anything.  What you say is correct.
>> On Mar 4, 2008, at 1:55 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> I apologize if I'm missing something, but the Zen Stone does have a 
>>> fast forwarder feature. If you hold the right edge of the navigation 
>>> circle down, and keep it pressed down, it'll fast forward through 
>>> the current file. It is true that it won't retain your place in a 
>>> file if you jump to another file. I don't understand the statement 
>>> about being connected to the computer.
>>>
>>> albert griffith wrote:
>>>   
>>>> I have the latest firmware and this has nothing to do with its 
>>>> ability to forward within files since it's not connected to the 
>>>> computer when this function is called for.
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> ]
>>>> On Behalf Of Tim Grady
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 5:16 PM
>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>> Subject: Re: zenstone question
>>>>
>>>> Deppends on what you are doing with it and whether or not you have 
>>>> the latest firmware.
>>>> On Mar 3, 2008, at 11:00 AM, albert griffith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>> While the zen stone can be stopped resuming at the same place in a 
>>>>> file, it won't hold if you switch to another file and come back to 
>>>>> the original.  It also has no forwarding abilities, you can only 
>>>>> jump from file to file.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> ]
>>>>> On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 2:09 AM
>>>>> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
>>>>> Subject: zenstone question
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all, I own both the zenstone and the zenstone plus which is the 
>>>>> 1gig unit. I love them both, but the smaller zenstone which has 
>>>>> the switch on top instead of the push bar is much better to work with.
>>>>> You
>>>>> do not need any software but as one other person mentioned, you 
>>>>> only need to plug it into the usb port, charge it and that is it.
>>>>> You really dont need a manual but go to the blind geek web site 
>>>>> and there you can listen to an audio file on the zenstone.
>>>>> I like the larger unit for space, but rather would own the less 
>>>>> expensive and more useable one instead.
>>>>> Take care and that is what I know
>>>>> MMM
>>>>> Michael Thanks You...
&g

Re: zenstone question

2008-03-04 Thread Chris Skarstad
Hi

and just to clarify once more.  The Creative Media Lite software is 
not needed to transfer files to the Zen Stone.  Sure, you can use it, 
but the regular copy and paste way, for me at least, works a whole 
lot faster and easier.  In fact that's why I got the Zen Stone, 
because it doesn't require any kind of special software to transfer 
files.  I don't even know why the Media Lite software exists because 
you really don't need it.  I guess people like to use those software 
interfaces for transfering files.

At 08:21 AM 3/4/2008, you wrote:
>You aren't missing anything.  What you say is correct.
>On Mar 4, 2008, at 1:55 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
>
> > I apologize if I'm missing something, but the Zen Stone does have a
> > fast
> > forwarder feature. If you hold the right edge of the navigation circle
> > down, and keep it pressed down, it'll fast forward through the current
> > file. It is true that it won't retain your place in a file if you jump
> > to another file. I don't understand the statement about being
> > connected
> > to the computer.
> >
> > albert griffith wrote:
> >> I have the latest firmware and this has nothing to do with its
> >> ability to
> >> forward within files since it's not connected to the computer when
> >> this
> >> function is called for.
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> ]
> >> On Behalf Of Tim Grady
> >> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 5:16 PM
> >> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> >> Subject: Re: zenstone question
> >>
> >> Deppends on what you are doing with it and whether or not you have
> >> the
> >> latest firmware.
> >> On Mar 3, 2008, at 11:00 AM, albert griffith wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> While the zen stone can be stopped resuming at the same place in a
> >>> file, it won't hold if you switch to another file and come back to
> >>> the
> >>> original.  It also has no forwarding abilities, you can only jump
> >>> from
> >>> file to file.
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> ]
> >>> On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 2:09 AM
> >>> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
> >>> Subject: zenstone question
> >>>
> >>> Hi all, I own both the zenstone and the zenstone plus which is the
> >>> 1gig unit. I love them both, but the smaller zenstone which has the
> >>> switch on top instead of the push bar is much better to work with.
> >>> You
> >>> do not need any software but as one other person mentioned, you only
> >>> need to plug it into the usb port, charge it and that is it.
> >>> You really dont need a manual but go to the blind geek web site and
> >>> there you can listen to an audio file on the zenstone.
> >>> I like the larger unit for space, but rather would own the less
> >>> expensive and more useable one instead.
> >>> Take care and that is what I know
> >>> MMM
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Re: zenstone question

2008-03-04 Thread Tim Grady
Get a grip.  I just meant that it deppended on whether you were  
listening to .mp3 files or Audible.
On Mar 3, 2008, at 5:31 PM, albert griffith wrote:

> I have the latest firmware and this has nothing to do with its  
> ability to
> forward within files since it's not connected to the computer when  
> this
> function is called for.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> ]
> On Behalf Of Tim Grady
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 5:16 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: zenstone question
>
> Deppends on what you are doing with it and whether or not you have the
> latest firmware.
> On Mar 3, 2008, at 11:00 AM, albert griffith wrote:
>
>> While the zen stone can be stopped resuming at the same place in a
>> file, it won't hold if you switch to another file and come back to  
>> the
>> original.  It also has no forwarding abilities, you can only jump  
>> from
>> file to file.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> ]
>> On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 2:09 AM
>> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
>> Subject: zenstone question
>>
>> Hi all, I own both the zenstone and the zenstone plus which is the
>> 1gig unit. I love them both, but the smaller zenstone which has the
>> switch on top instead of the push bar is much better to work with.  
>> You
>> do not need any software but as one other person mentioned, you only
>> need to plug it into the usb port, charge it and that is it.
>> You really dont need a manual but go to the blind geek web site and
>> there you can listen to an audio file on the zenstone.
>> I like the larger unit for space, but rather would own the less
>> expensive and more useable one instead.
>> Take care and that is what I know
>> MMM
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Re: zenstone question

2008-03-04 Thread Rick Harmon
incorrect it does have forwarding and reversing.  hold down on the right or 
left buttons and you will seek forward and backwards through the current 
playing file.

Rick

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From: "albert griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 11:00 AM
Subject: RE: zenstone question


While the zen stone can be stopped resuming at the same place in a file, it
won't hold if you switch to another file and come back to the original.  It
also has no forwarding abilities, you can only jump from file to file.

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Subject: zenstone question

Hi all, I own both the zenstone and the zenstone plus which is the 1gig
unit. I love them both, but the smaller zenstone which has the switch on top
instead of the push bar is much better to work with. You do not need any
software but as one other person mentioned, you only need to plug it into
the usb port, charge it and that is it.
You really dont need a manual but go to the blind geek web site and there
you can listen to an audio file on the zenstone.
I like the larger unit for space, but rather would own the less expensive
and more useable one instead.
Take care and that is what I know
MMM
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RE: zenstone question

2008-03-04 Thread albert griffith
Yes, Audible's files are book marked by section so they'll jump but not so
with unmarked files. 

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Tim Grady
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 9:16 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: zenstone question

Get a grip.  I just meant that it deppended on whether you were listening to
.mp3 files or Audible.
On Mar 3, 2008, at 5:31 PM, albert griffith wrote:

> I have the latest firmware and this has nothing to do with its ability 
> to forward within files since it's not connected to the computer when 
> this function is called for.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ]
> On Behalf Of Tim Grady
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 5:16 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: zenstone question
>
> Deppends on what you are doing with it and whether or not you have the 
> latest firmware.
> On Mar 3, 2008, at 11:00 AM, albert griffith wrote:
>
>> While the zen stone can be stopped resuming at the same place in a 
>> file, it won't hold if you switch to another file and come back to 
>> the original.  It also has no forwarding abilities, you can only jump 
>> from file to file.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> ]
>> On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 2:09 AM
>> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
>> Subject: zenstone question
>>
>> Hi all, I own both the zenstone and the zenstone plus which is the 
>> 1gig unit. I love them both, but the smaller zenstone which has the 
>> switch on top instead of the push bar is much better to work with.
>> You
>> do not need any software but as one other person mentioned, you only 
>> need to plug it into the usb port, charge it and that is it.
>> You really dont need a manual but go to the blind geek web site and 
>> there you can listen to an audio file on the zenstone.
>> I like the larger unit for space, but rather would own the less 
>> expensive and more useable one instead.
>> Take care and that is what I know
>> MMM
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Re: zenstone question

2008-03-04 Thread Tim Grady
You aren't missing anything.  What you say is correct.
On Mar 4, 2008, at 1:55 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

> I apologize if I'm missing something, but the Zen Stone does have a  
> fast
> forwarder feature. If you hold the right edge of the navigation circle
> down, and keep it pressed down, it'll fast forward through the current
> file. It is true that it won't retain your place in a file if you jump
> to another file. I don't understand the statement about being  
> connected
> to the computer.
>
> albert griffith wrote:
>> I have the latest firmware and this has nothing to do with its  
>> ability to
>> forward within files since it's not connected to the computer when  
>> this
>> function is called for.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> ]
>> On Behalf Of Tim Grady
>> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 5:16 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: zenstone question
>>
>> Deppends on what you are doing with it and whether or not you have  
>> the
>> latest firmware.
>> On Mar 3, 2008, at 11:00 AM, albert griffith wrote:
>>
>>
>>> While the zen stone can be stopped resuming at the same place in a
>>> file, it won't hold if you switch to another file and come back to  
>>> the
>>> original.  It also has no forwarding abilities, you can only jump  
>>> from
>>> file to file.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> ]
>>> On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 2:09 AM
>>> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
>>> Subject: zenstone question
>>>
>>> Hi all, I own both the zenstone and the zenstone plus which is the
>>> 1gig unit. I love them both, but the smaller zenstone which has the
>>> switch on top instead of the push bar is much better to work with.  
>>> You
>>> do not need any software but as one other person mentioned, you only
>>> need to plug it into the usb port, charge it and that is it.
>>> You really dont need a manual but go to the blind geek web site and
>>> there you can listen to an audio file on the zenstone.
>>> I like the larger unit for space, but rather would own the less
>>> expensive and more useable one instead.
>>> Take care and that is what I know
>>> MMM
>>> Michael Thanks You...
>>> TickTalk Publishing Invites You...
>>> And www.ticktalk.net Welcomes You...
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Re: zenstone question

2008-03-04 Thread Jerry Richer
 I imagine that the file has to be playing while you attempt fast
forward or rewind.

   Jerry

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RE: zenstone question

2008-03-04 Thread Chris Skarstad
Hi

I think we might be getting our terms confused here.
The 1 GB model *does* have a fast forward/rewind feature.
You know that same little area on the right side of the circle that 
you press to move to the next track?  Well, simply press and hold 
down on that button and the zen stone will fast forward through the 
current track.  If its not doing it, keep trying.
Same goes for the left side. Holding down on the button to move back 
through the songs that you've played already will rewind through the 
currently playing track.
  Being connected to the computer does not even figure into this at 
all, the only time the zen stone, at least for me, is plugged in to 
the USB port is to charge it up.






At 03:14 AM 3/4/2008, you wrote:
>When I hold the wheel down it goes to the next file.  When I mentioned being
>connected to the computer to use its software, I was speaking of those
>features it provides none of which have anything to do with it when it's not
>connected.  I guess you could stretch and say updates might concern
>themselves with the player itself but so far I haven't received any or
>learned of any when I checked.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
>Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 1:56 AM
>To: PC Audio Discussion List
>Subject: Re: zenstone question
>
>I apologize if I'm missing something, but the Zen Stone does have a fast
>forwarder feature. If you hold the right edge of the navigation circle down,
>and keep it pressed down, it'll fast forward through the current file. It is
>true that it won't retain your place in a file if you jump to another file.
>I don't understand the statement about being connected to the computer.
>
>albert griffith wrote:
> > I have the latest firmware and this has nothing to do with its ability
> > to forward within files since it's not connected to the computer when
> > this function is called for.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On Behalf Of Tim Grady
> > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 5:16 PM
> > To: PC Audio Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: zenstone question
> >
> > Deppends on what you are doing with it and whether or not you have the
> > latest firmware.
> > On Mar 3, 2008, at 11:00 AM, albert griffith wrote:
> >
> >
> >> While the zen stone can be stopped resuming at the same place in a
> >> file, it won't hold if you switch to another file and come back to
> >> the original.  It also has no forwarding abilities, you can only jump
> >> from file to file.
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> ]
> >> On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 2:09 AM
> >> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
> >> Subject: zenstone question
> >>
> >> Hi all, I own both the zenstone and the zenstone plus which is the
> >> 1gig unit. I love them both, but the smaller zenstone which has the
> >> switch on top instead of the push bar is much better to work with.
> >> You do not need any software but as one other person mentioned, you
> >> only need to plug it into the usb port, charge it and that is it.
> >> You really dont need a manual but go to the blind geek web site and
> >> there you can listen to an audio file on the zenstone.
> >> I like the larger unit for space, but rather would own the less
> >> expensive and more useable one instead.
> >> Take care and that is what I know
> >> MMM
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Re: zenstone question

2008-03-04 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I apologize if I'm missing something, but the Zen Stone does have a fast 
forwarder feature. If you hold the right edge of the navigation circle 
down, and keep it pressed down, it'll fast forward through the current 
file. It is true that it won't retain your place in a file if you jump 
to another file. I don't understand the statement about being connected 
to the computer.

albert griffith wrote:
> I have the latest firmware and this has nothing to do with its ability to
> forward within files since it's not connected to the computer when this
> function is called for. 
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Tim Grady
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 5:16 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: zenstone question
>
> Deppends on what you are doing with it and whether or not you have the
> latest firmware.
> On Mar 3, 2008, at 11:00 AM, albert griffith wrote:
>
>   
>> While the zen stone can be stopped resuming at the same place in a 
>> file, it won't hold if you switch to another file and come back to the 
>> original.  It also has no forwarding abilities, you can only jump from 
>> file to file.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> ]
>> On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 2:09 AM
>> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
>> Subject: zenstone question
>>
>> Hi all, I own both the zenstone and the zenstone plus which is the 
>> 1gig unit. I love them both, but the smaller zenstone which has the 
>> switch on top instead of the push bar is much better to work with. You 
>> do not need any software but as one other person mentioned, you only 
>> need to plug it into the usb port, charge it and that is it.
>> You really dont need a manual but go to the blind geek web site and 
>> there you can listen to an audio file on the zenstone.
>> I like the larger unit for space, but rather would own the less 
>> expensive and more useable one instead.
>> Take care and that is what I know
>> MMM
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Re: zenstone question

2008-03-04 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I have multiple files on my Zen Stone and I can fast forward and rewind 
through a particular file with no problems. If you accidentally hit the 
center button while pressing down on the right or left side of the 
navigation wheel then you might jump to the next or previous file. Also, 
if you don't push on the edge of the navigation wheel and keep pressing 
down firmly, you might jump to the next song. Once in a great while, 
I'll be fast forwarding through a file and my finger will slip resulting 
in me losing my place. It may also be the case that you need the latest 
firmware, although I never experienced the problem you describe, even 
with the older firmware.

albert griffith wrote:
> Rick, when I do that it moves to the next file.  Possibly if I only put one
> file on it that might work. 
>
> -Original Message-
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> On Behalf Of Rick Harmon
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 8:44 PM
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>
> incorrect it does have forwarding and reversing.  hold down on the right or
> left buttons and you will seek forward and backwards through the current
> playing file.
>
> Rick
>
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> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 11:00 AM
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>
>
> While the zen stone can be stopped resuming at the same place in a file, it
> won't hold if you switch to another file and come back to the original.  It
> also has no forwarding abilities, you can only jump from file to file.
>
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> Hi all, I own both the zenstone and the zenstone plus which is the 1gig
> unit. I love them both, but the smaller zenstone which has the switch on top
> instead of the push bar is much better to work with. You do not need any
> software but as one other person mentioned, you only need to plug it into
> the usb port, charge it and that is it.
> You really dont need a manual but go to the blind geek web site and there
> you can listen to an audio file on the zenstone.
> I like the larger unit for space, but rather would own the less expensive
> and more useable one instead.
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RE: zenstone question

2008-03-04 Thread albert griffith
I'm glad it will forward through files not previously sectioned for you but
not for me. 

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You aren't missing anything.  What you say is correct.
On Mar 4, 2008, at 1:55 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

> I apologize if I'm missing something, but the Zen Stone does have a 
> fast forwarder feature. If you hold the right edge of the navigation 
> circle down, and keep it pressed down, it'll fast forward through the 
> current file. It is true that it won't retain your place in a file if 
> you jump to another file. I don't understand the statement about being 
> connected to the computer.
>
> albert griffith wrote:
>> I have the latest firmware and this has nothing to do with its 
>> ability to forward within files since it's not connected to the 
>> computer when this function is called for.
>>
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>> ]
>> On Behalf Of Tim Grady
>> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 5:16 PM
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>> Subject: Re: zenstone question
>>
>> Deppends on what you are doing with it and whether or not you have 
>> the latest firmware.
>> On Mar 3, 2008, at 11:00 AM, albert griffith wrote:
>>
>>
>>> While the zen stone can be stopped resuming at the same place in a 
>>> file, it won't hold if you switch to another file and come back to 
>>> the original.  It also has no forwarding abilities, you can only 
>>> jump from file to file.
>>>
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>>>
>>> Hi all, I own both the zenstone and the zenstone plus which is the 
>>> 1gig unit. I love them both, but the smaller zenstone which has the 
>>> switch on top instead of the push bar is much better to work with.
>>> You
>>> do not need any software but as one other person mentioned, you only 
>>> need to plug it into the usb port, charge it and that is it.
>>> You really dont need a manual but go to the blind geek web site and 
>>> there you can listen to an audio file on the zenstone.
>>> I like the larger unit for space, but rather would own the less 
>>> expensive and more useable one instead.
>>> Take care and that is what I know
>>> MMM
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Re: zenstone question

2008-03-04 Thread Rick Harmon
no that's not true.  It works as I said here on my zen stone.  either you 
are doing something wrong or maybe you have an older firmware?

Rick

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Rick, when I do that it moves to the next file.  Possibly if I only put one
file on it that might work.

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incorrect it does have forwarding and reversing.  hold down on the right or
left buttons and you will seek forward and backwards through the current
playing file.

Rick

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While the zen stone can be stopped resuming at the same place in a file, it
won't hold if you switch to another file and come back to the original.  It
also has no forwarding abilities, you can only jump from file to file.

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Hi all, I own both the zenstone and the zenstone plus which is the 1gig
unit. I love them both, but the smaller zenstone which has the switch on top
instead of the push bar is much better to work with. You do not need any
software but as one other person mentioned, you only need to plug it into
the usb port, charge it and that is it.
You really dont need a manual but go to the blind geek web site and there
you can listen to an audio file on the zenstone.
I like the larger unit for space, but rather would own the less expensive
and more useable one instead.
Take care and that is what I know
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RE: zenstone question

2008-03-04 Thread albert griffith
When I hold the wheel down it goes to the next file.  When I mentioned being
connected to the computer to use its software, I was speaking of those
features it provides none of which have anything to do with it when it's not
connected.  I guess you could stretch and say updates might concern
themselves with the player itself but so far I haven't received any or
learned of any when I checked. 

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I apologize if I'm missing something, but the Zen Stone does have a fast
forwarder feature. If you hold the right edge of the navigation circle down,
and keep it pressed down, it'll fast forward through the current file. It is
true that it won't retain your place in a file if you jump to another file.
I don't understand the statement about being connected to the computer.

albert griffith wrote:
> I have the latest firmware and this has nothing to do with its ability 
> to forward within files since it's not connected to the computer when 
> this function is called for.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Tim Grady
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 5:16 PM
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> Subject: Re: zenstone question
>
> Deppends on what you are doing with it and whether or not you have the 
> latest firmware.
> On Mar 3, 2008, at 11:00 AM, albert griffith wrote:
>
>   
>> While the zen stone can be stopped resuming at the same place in a 
>> file, it won't hold if you switch to another file and come back to 
>> the original.  It also has no forwarding abilities, you can only jump 
>> from file to file.
>>
>> -Original Message-
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>> ]
>> On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
>> Subject: zenstone question
>>
>> Hi all, I own both the zenstone and the zenstone plus which is the 
>> 1gig unit. I love them both, but the smaller zenstone which has the 
>> switch on top instead of the push bar is much better to work with. 
>> You do not need any software but as one other person mentioned, you 
>> only need to plug it into the usb port, charge it and that is it.
>> You really dont need a manual but go to the blind geek web site and 
>> there you can listen to an audio file on the zenstone.
>> I like the larger unit for space, but rather would own the less 
>> expensive and more useable one instead.
>> Take care and that is what I know
>> MMM
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Re: zenstone question

2008-03-04 Thread Tim Grady
Deppends on what you are doing with it and whether or not you have the  
latest firmware.
On Mar 3, 2008, at 11:00 AM, albert griffith wrote:

> While the zen stone can be stopped resuming at the same place in a  
> file, it
> won't hold if you switch to another file and come back to the  
> original.  It
> also has no forwarding abilities, you can only jump from file to file.
>
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> Subject: zenstone question
>
> Hi all, I own both the zenstone and the zenstone plus which is the  
> 1gig
> unit. I love them both, but the smaller zenstone which has the  
> switch on top
> instead of the push bar is much better to work with. You do not need  
> any
> software but as one other person mentioned, you only need to plug it  
> into
> the usb port, charge it and that is it.
> You really dont need a manual but go to the blind geek web site and  
> there
> you can listen to an audio file on the zenstone.
> I like the larger unit for space, but rather would own the less  
> expensive
> and more useable one instead.
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RE: zenstone question

2008-03-04 Thread albert griffith
Rick, when I do that it moves to the next file.  Possibly if I only put one
file on it that might work. 

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incorrect it does have forwarding and reversing.  hold down on the right or
left buttons and you will seek forward and backwards through the current
playing file.

Rick

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While the zen stone can be stopped resuming at the same place in a file, it
won't hold if you switch to another file and come back to the original.  It
also has no forwarding abilities, you can only jump from file to file.

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Hi all, I own both the zenstone and the zenstone plus which is the 1gig
unit. I love them both, but the smaller zenstone which has the switch on top
instead of the push bar is much better to work with. You do not need any
software but as one other person mentioned, you only need to plug it into
the usb port, charge it and that is it.
You really dont need a manual but go to the blind geek web site and there
you can listen to an audio file on the zenstone.
I like the larger unit for space, but rather would own the less expensive
and more useable one instead.
Take care and that is what I know
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RE: zenstone question

2008-03-03 Thread albert griffith
I have the latest firmware and this has nothing to do with its ability to
forward within files since it's not connected to the computer when this
function is called for. 

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Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 5:16 PM
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Deppends on what you are doing with it and whether or not you have the
latest firmware.
On Mar 3, 2008, at 11:00 AM, albert griffith wrote:

> While the zen stone can be stopped resuming at the same place in a 
> file, it won't hold if you switch to another file and come back to the 
> original.  It also has no forwarding abilities, you can only jump from 
> file to file.
>
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> Subject: zenstone question
>
> Hi all, I own both the zenstone and the zenstone plus which is the 
> 1gig unit. I love them both, but the smaller zenstone which has the 
> switch on top instead of the push bar is much better to work with. You 
> do not need any software but as one other person mentioned, you only 
> need to plug it into the usb port, charge it and that is it.
> You really dont need a manual but go to the blind geek web site and 
> there you can listen to an audio file on the zenstone.
> I like the larger unit for space, but rather would own the less 
> expensive and more useable one instead.
> Take care and that is what I know
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RE: zenstone question

2008-03-03 Thread albert griffith
While the zen stone can be stopped resuming at the same place in a file, it
won't hold if you switch to another file and come back to the original.  It
also has no forwarding abilities, you can only jump from file to file. 

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Subject: zenstone question

Hi all, I own both the zenstone and the zenstone plus which is the 1gig
unit. I love them both, but the smaller zenstone which has the switch on top
instead of the push bar is much better to work with. You do not need any
software but as one other person mentioned, you only need to plug it into
the usb port, charge it and that is it.
You really dont need a manual but go to the blind geek web site and there
you can listen to an audio file on the zenstone.
I like the larger unit for space, but rather would own the less expensive
and more useable one instead.
Take care and that is what I know
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zenstone question

2008-03-02 Thread tickpub
Hi all, I own both the zenstone and the zenstone plus which is the 1gig
unit. I love them both, but the smaller zenstone which has the switch on
top instead of the push bar is much better to work with. You do not need
any software but as one other person mentioned, you only need to plug it
into the usb port, charge it and that is it.
You really dont need a manual but go to the blind geek web site and there
you can listen to an audio file on the zenstone.
I like the larger unit for space, but rather would own the less expensive
and more useable one instead.
Take care and that is what I know
MMM
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RE: zenstone question

2007-09-26 Thread Caroline Ford
Joe,

No, I'm only using the 1 GB version.  At least here in the UK, the 2 GB
version seems to be just about twice the price of the 1 GB version, so there
doesn't seem much benefit in buying the 2 GB version.  I think two of the 1
GB players might be a better bet, so at least if you lose one of them, you
still have the other to listen to.

Caroline.

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caroline, are you using the two gigabyte version?? i know with the one
gigabyte model it picks up where you left off which is really handy in an
audio book, i am seriously thinking of purchasing the two gigabyte version,
the radio side of it doesn't really  interest me, and i wonder if there is
provision for an external mike for the voice recorder? or am i expecting too
much here, thanks for all the information following my question, regards
from ireland, joe.



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RE: zenstone question

2007-09-26 Thread Mike Pietruk
Albert

When we were at Target and Best Buy yesterday, my wife's reaction to the 
Zen Stone 2gb was just that.
We, incidentally, ended up with the 2gb Sansa e250c -- a bit more 
expensive at $99 but my sighted wife thought, that of all the units we saw 
in person, this one had
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Re: zenstone question

2007-09-26 Thread Bobcat
Yes.  The plus has menus.  There is a manual that does explain how it works 
but it doesn't give exact steps or describe the menus in detail.

The 1 gig Stone does not have menus.

Bob
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> My worry about the two gig unit is that it's increased number of functions
> will make it more difficult to navigate.
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> caroline, are you using the two gigabyte version?? i know with the one
> gigabyte model it picks up where you left off which is really handy in an
> audio book, i am seriously thinking of purchasing the two gigabyte 
> version,
> the radio side of it doesn't really  interest me, and i wonder if there is
> provision for an external mike for the voice recorder? or am i expecting 
> too
> much here, thanks for all the information following my question, regards
> from ireland, joe.
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RE: zenstone question

2007-09-26 Thread albert griffith
My worry about the two gig unit is that it's increased number of functions
will make it more difficult to navigate. 

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caroline, are you using the two gigabyte version?? i know with the one
gigabyte model it picks up where you left off which is really handy in an
audio book, i am seriously thinking of purchasing the two gigabyte version,
the radio side of it doesn't really  interest me, and i wonder if there is
provision for an external mike for the voice recorder? or am i expecting too
much here, thanks for all the information following my question, regards
from ireland, joe.



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Re: zenstone question

2007-09-25 Thread Bobcat
No external mic input on the Zenstone plus that I could see when I checked 
it out.

Bob

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Subject: zenstone question


> caroline, are you using the two gigabyte version?? i know with the one
> gigabyte model it picks up where you left off which is really handy in an
> audio book, i am seriously thinking of purchasing the two gigabyte 
> version,
> the radio side of it doesn't really  interest me, and i wonder if there is
> provision for an external mike for the voice recorder? or am i expecting 
> too
> much here, thanks for all the information following my question, regards
> from ireland, joe.
>
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zenstone question

2007-09-25 Thread Joe Bollard
caroline, are you using the two gigabyte version?? i know with the one
gigabyte model it picks up where you left off which is really handy in an
audio book, i am seriously thinking of purchasing the two gigabyte version,
the radio side of it doesn't really  interest me, and i wonder if there is
provision for an external mike for the voice recorder? or am i expecting too
much here, thanks for all the information following my question, regards
from ireland, joe.



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