RE: SV: lossless music streaming by wifi
Another angle on this. If you can stream music to your computer from your iphone through the airport express, can you do it the other way round, i.e. stream music from your to your iphone? Just curious. André -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 22 April 2015 12:53 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: SV: lossless music streaming by wifi Nice, I'll have to see where I can find one, as far as I know Amazon don't ship electronic goods to Australia. On 22/04/2015 8:23 AM, Tim Grady wrote: Sure does. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 6:16 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: SV: lossless music streaming by wifi Now that's nice! a cheap DAC for an iPhone and its about time there was one. So I take it this device supports AirPlay and does it support DLNA as well? On 22/04/2015 8:01 AM, Tim Grady wrote: I have something called a veetop sold by amazon that will do what you want for $36 American and even sports an optical output. The manual isn't great and therefor it only got a 3.7 ranking on Amazon. Asside from the audio, you can transmit to your wi-fi or if you are traveling in a car directly to it from a smart phone or Idevice. It originally sold for something like $89 but is now $36. Because of the louxy manual, Amazon does have an instruction page you can get to by clicking on the veetop link in the description. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 10:51 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: SV: lossless music streaming by wifi Thanks for that, I'll follow this one up as I'm looking for something that supports DLNA, my Denon AVR2113 and other devices support DLNA but I'm looking for a Stand-Alone device similar to the Airport Express so I can hook that up to other devices with a line-in. I did know of other solutions but wanted to keep the thing simple and cost affective as the person who started the discussion was on a budget. Arcam for example have a complete AirPlay DAC solution which replaces the Airport Express, its $800 though - I'm sure its worth every penny knowing the quality of Arcam gear -. Only my musings of course but - when it comes to audio quality - I think I'd rather put my faith in company's with a reputation for audio quality such as Arcam rather than those that don't have a reputation for audio quality such as Dlink but - having said all that - I appreciate that we're all on a limited budget and have to do the best we can do with what we can afford. On 21/04/2015 12:37 AM, brianolesen wrote: Hi, Actually there are other great solutions as well. DLink has a very cool one. DCH-M225 It supports a wider span of protocols. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane Trethowan Sendt: 19. april 2015 20:07 Til: PC Audio Discussion List Emne: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi the output jack of the Airport Express is a line-out jack, the jack is a 3.5MM jack which can either be used for analogue or digital line-out. On 20/04/2015 4:01 AM, André van Deventer wrote: Dane Can you please explain. If I want to invest in this I would like to know as much as possible. Also, do you know whether the 3.5 mm jack is a high impedence output as for connection to stereo systems or a low impedence output as for use with headphones? My system does not have digital inputs and I do not have the funds to invest in this at this stage. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 19 April 2015 07:45 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi Come again? Who said anything about using iTunesw, there are other options that can be used. On 20/04/2015 3:22 AM, Fanus wrote: Hello I think Andre's problem is that he does not want to use iTunes to stream. I too have the Express and unlike many folks I like iTunes. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 7:08 PM Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi This can be made so very simple, buy an Apple Airport Express plug it into the Line-in of your Hi-Fi in the other room and stream to your hearts content. If your Hi-Fi has a digital input then you can make full use of this by using the digital output of the Airport Express. You can also put the Airport Express to good use as an extra Wireless Access Point, Wireless Extender etc. I think the Airport Express is only $50 now, about the same cost as a good RCA lead and yep, I
Re: SV: lossless music streaming by wifi
This arrived about 10 minutes ago, took me all of 2 minutes to get the device connected to my Home Network but I knew that would be the case. Small ain't it, its far smaller than the Airport Express and plugs directly into a wall outlet like an AC Plugpack so I'm going to have to find a slightly longer Patch Cord than I had prepared for the arrival of the D-Link. Audio is about what I'd expect from a $50 device and I'm not complaining, thanks for sharing this with the list as its a cheap and clever way to convert your spare sterio or whatever into a DLNA/AirPlay compatible receiver. On 21/04/2015 12:37 AM, brianolesen wrote: Hi, Actually there are other great solutions as well. DLink has a very cool one. DCH-M225 It supports a wider span of protocols. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane Trethowan Sendt: 19. april 2015 20:07 Til: PC Audio Discussion List Emne: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi the output jack of the Airport Express is a line-out jack, the jack is a 3.5MM jack which can either be used for analogue or digital line-out. On 20/04/2015 4:01 AM, André van Deventer wrote: Dane Can you please explain. If I want to invest in this I would like to know as much as possible. Also, do you know whether the 3.5 mm jack is a high impedence output as for connection to stereo systems or a low impedence output as for use with headphones? My system does not have digital inputs and I do not have the funds to invest in this at this stage. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 19 April 2015 07:45 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi Come again? Who said anything about using iTunesw, there are other options that can be used. On 20/04/2015 3:22 AM, Fanus wrote: Hello I think Andre's problem is that he does not want to use iTunes to stream. I too have the Express and unlike many folks I like iTunes. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 7:08 PM Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi This can be made so very simple, buy an Apple Airport Express plug it into the Line-in of your Hi-Fi in the other room and stream to your hearts content. If your Hi-Fi has a digital input then you can make full use of this by using the digital output of the Airport Express. You can also put the Airport Express to good use as an extra Wireless Access Point, Wireless Extender etc. I think the Airport Express is only $50 now, about the same cost as a good RCA lead and yep, I wouldn't like to risk running a long RCA lead, the possability of more interference and loss of quality is certainly there. I don't want to brag but streaming around my house is my passion so yeah, I like to think I know one or two things about streaming or getting audio/video from one location to another smile. On 20/04/2015 2:46 AM, André van Deventer wrote: Hi all Am moving to a new flat and have to sort out my sound stuff now. I play all my music through the computer now. My hifi system will be standing in one room and my computer in another one. So I need to get the sound from one to the other. I have the following options: 1.Using the output of a digital to audio converter and lay down an RCA to RCA cable of quite a few meters from one room to the other. This might be the cheapest way. But with such a long cable you will start to find interference as these cables are not supposed to be so long. And you do also get some sound reduction. 2.Using some kind of LAN device. I do not know if such a thing exist at all – a device with which you can stream music ythrough LAN that has an analog output. It would also necessitate the laying of long cables which could also be a problem. 3.Then there is the option I may want to examine. My question is whether with the technology available today it is possible to stream music in lossless format through a WIFI connection. I would like to do this using my media player of choice which is Foobar 2000 at present. I don’t want to use Itunes as I find it cumbersome and limited. Any suggestions about which way to go? -- ** Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves -- ** Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves
Re: SV: lossless music streaming by wifi
Replying to my own email smile I forgot to mention that Airfoil Speakers is also available for Android though I think the name is different, if you looking for the App on iTunes and in the Google Play Store respectively look for Airfoil Speakers Touch. On 22/04/2015 6:11 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Yep, use an App called Airfoil Speakers. On 22/04/2015 4:02 PM, André van Deventer wrote: Another angle on this. If you can stream music to your computer from your iphone through the airport express, can you do it the other way round, i.e. stream music from your to your iphone? Just curious. André -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 22 April 2015 12:53 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: SV: lossless music streaming by wifi Nice, I'll have to see where I can find one, as far as I know Amazon don't ship electronic goods to Australia. On 22/04/2015 8:23 AM, Tim Grady wrote: Sure does. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 6:16 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: SV: lossless music streaming by wifi Now that's nice! a cheap DAC for an iPhone and its about time there was one. So I take it this device supports AirPlay and does it support DLNA as well? On 22/04/2015 8:01 AM, Tim Grady wrote: I have something called a veetop sold by amazon that will do what you want for $36 American and even sports an optical output. The manual isn't great and therefor it only got a 3.7 ranking on Amazon. Asside from the audio, you can transmit to your wi-fi or if you are traveling in a car directly to it from a smart phone or Idevice. It originally sold for something like $89 but is now $36. Because of the louxy manual, Amazon does have an instruction page you can get to by clicking on the veetop link in the description. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 10:51 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: SV: lossless music streaming by wifi Thanks for that, I'll follow this one up as I'm looking for something that supports DLNA, my Denon AVR2113 and other devices support DLNA but I'm looking for a Stand-Alone device similar to the Airport Express so I can hook that up to other devices with a line-in. I did know of other solutions but wanted to keep the thing simple and cost affective as the person who started the discussion was on a budget. Arcam for example have a complete AirPlay DAC solution which replaces the Airport Express, its $800 though - I'm sure its worth every penny knowing the quality of Arcam gear -. Only my musings of course but - when it comes to audio quality - I think I'd rather put my faith in company's with a reputation for audio quality such as Arcam rather than those that don't have a reputation for audio quality such as Dlink but - having said all that - I appreciate that we're all on a limited budget and have to do the best we can do with what we can afford. On 21/04/2015 12:37 AM, brianolesen wrote: Hi, Actually there are other great solutions as well. DLink has a very cool one. DCH-M225 It supports a wider span of protocols. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane Trethowan Sendt: 19. april 2015 20:07 Til: PC Audio Discussion List Emne: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi the output jack of the Airport Express is a line-out jack, the jack is a 3.5MM jack which can either be used for analogue or digital line-out. On 20/04/2015 4:01 AM, André van Deventer wrote: Dane Can you please explain. If I want to invest in this I would like to know as much as possible. Also, do you know whether the 3.5 mm jack is a high impedence output as for connection to stereo systems or a low impedence output as for use with headphones? My system does not have digital inputs and I do not have the funds to invest in this at this stage. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 19 April 2015 07:45 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi Come again? Who said anything about using iTunesw, there are other options that can be used. On 20/04/2015 3:22 AM, Fanus wrote: Hello I think Andre's problem is that he does not want to use iTunes to stream. I too have the Express and unlike many folks I like iTunes. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 7:08 PM Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi This can be made so very simple, buy an Apple Airport Express plug it into the Line-in of your Hi-Fi in the other room and stream
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Hello Andre Not with the Express because it does not have an input port. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 8:02 AM Subject: RE: SV: lossless music streaming by wifi Another angle on this. If you can stream music to your computer from your iphone through the airport express, can you do it the other way round, i.e. stream music from your to your iphone? Just curious. André -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 22 April 2015 12:53 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: SV: lossless music streaming by wifi Nice, I'll have to see where I can find one, as far as I know Amazon don't ship electronic goods to Australia. On 22/04/2015 8:23 AM, Tim Grady wrote: Sure does. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 6:16 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: SV: lossless music streaming by wifi Now that's nice! a cheap DAC for an iPhone and its about time there was one. So I take it this device supports AirPlay and does it support DLNA as well? On 22/04/2015 8:01 AM, Tim Grady wrote: I have something called a veetop sold by amazon that will do what you want for $36 American and even sports an optical output. The manual isn't great and therefor it only got a 3.7 ranking on Amazon. Asside from the audio, you can transmit to your wi-fi or if you are traveling in a car directly to it from a smart phone or Idevice. It originally sold for something like $89 but is now $36. Because of the louxy manual, Amazon does have an instruction page you can get to by clicking on the veetop link in the description. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 10:51 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: SV: lossless music streaming by wifi Thanks for that, I'll follow this one up as I'm looking for something that supports DLNA, my Denon AVR2113 and other devices support DLNA but I'm looking for a Stand-Alone device similar to the Airport Express so I can hook that up to other devices with a line-in. I did know of other solutions but wanted to keep the thing simple and cost affective as the person who started the discussion was on a budget. Arcam for example have a complete AirPlay DAC solution which replaces the Airport Express, its $800 though - I'm sure its worth every penny knowing the quality of Arcam gear -. Only my musings of course but - when it comes to audio quality - I think I'd rather put my faith in company's with a reputation for audio quality such as Arcam rather than those that don't have a reputation for audio quality such as Dlink but - having said all that - I appreciate that we're all on a limited budget and have to do the best we can do with what we can afford. On 21/04/2015 12:37 AM, brianolesen wrote: Hi, Actually there are other great solutions as well. DLink has a very cool one. DCH-M225 It supports a wider span of protocols. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane Trethowan Sendt: 19. april 2015 20:07 Til: PC Audio Discussion List Emne: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi the output jack of the Airport Express is a line-out jack, the jack is a 3.5MM jack which can either be used for analogue or digital line-out. On 20/04/2015 4:01 AM, André van Deventer wrote: Dane Can you please explain. If I want to invest in this I would like to know as much as possible. Also, do you know whether the 3.5 mm jack is a high impedence output as for connection to stereo systems or a low impedence output as for use with headphones? My system does not have digital inputs and I do not have the funds to invest in this at this stage. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 19 April 2015 07:45 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi Come again? Who said anything about using iTunesw, there are other options that can be used. On 20/04/2015 3:22 AM, Fanus wrote: Hello I think Andre's problem is that he does not want to use iTunes to stream. I too have the Express and unlike many folks I like iTunes. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 7:08 PM Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi This can be made so very simple, buy an Apple Airport Express plug it into the Line-in of your Hi-Fi in the other room and stream to your hearts content. If your Hi-Fi has a digital input then you can make full use of this by using
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Yep, use an App called Airfoil Speakers. On 22/04/2015 4:02 PM, André van Deventer wrote: Another angle on this. If you can stream music to your computer from your iphone through the airport express, can you do it the other way round, i.e. stream music from your to your iphone? Just curious. André -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 22 April 2015 12:53 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: SV: lossless music streaming by wifi Nice, I'll have to see where I can find one, as far as I know Amazon don't ship electronic goods to Australia. On 22/04/2015 8:23 AM, Tim Grady wrote: Sure does. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 6:16 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: SV: lossless music streaming by wifi Now that's nice! a cheap DAC for an iPhone and its about time there was one. So I take it this device supports AirPlay and does it support DLNA as well? On 22/04/2015 8:01 AM, Tim Grady wrote: I have something called a veetop sold by amazon that will do what you want for $36 American and even sports an optical output. The manual isn't great and therefor it only got a 3.7 ranking on Amazon. Asside from the audio, you can transmit to your wi-fi or if you are traveling in a car directly to it from a smart phone or Idevice. It originally sold for something like $89 but is now $36. Because of the louxy manual, Amazon does have an instruction page you can get to by clicking on the veetop link in the description. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 10:51 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: SV: lossless music streaming by wifi Thanks for that, I'll follow this one up as I'm looking for something that supports DLNA, my Denon AVR2113 and other devices support DLNA but I'm looking for a Stand-Alone device similar to the Airport Express so I can hook that up to other devices with a line-in. I did know of other solutions but wanted to keep the thing simple and cost affective as the person who started the discussion was on a budget. Arcam for example have a complete AirPlay DAC solution which replaces the Airport Express, its $800 though - I'm sure its worth every penny knowing the quality of Arcam gear -. Only my musings of course but - when it comes to audio quality - I think I'd rather put my faith in company's with a reputation for audio quality such as Arcam rather than those that don't have a reputation for audio quality such as Dlink but - having said all that - I appreciate that we're all on a limited budget and have to do the best we can do with what we can afford. On 21/04/2015 12:37 AM, brianolesen wrote: Hi, Actually there are other great solutions as well. DLink has a very cool one. DCH-M225 It supports a wider span of protocols. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane Trethowan Sendt: 19. april 2015 20:07 Til: PC Audio Discussion List Emne: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi the output jack of the Airport Express is a line-out jack, the jack is a 3.5MM jack which can either be used for analogue or digital line-out. On 20/04/2015 4:01 AM, André van Deventer wrote: Dane Can you please explain. If I want to invest in this I would like to know as much as possible. Also, do you know whether the 3.5 mm jack is a high impedence output as for connection to stereo systems or a low impedence output as for use with headphones? My system does not have digital inputs and I do not have the funds to invest in this at this stage. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 19 April 2015 07:45 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi Come again? Who said anything about using iTunesw, there are other options that can be used. On 20/04/2015 3:22 AM, Fanus wrote: Hello I think Andre's problem is that he does not want to use iTunes to stream. I too have the Express and unlike many folks I like iTunes. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 7:08 PM Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi This can be made so very simple, buy an Apple Airport Express plug it into the Line-in of your Hi-Fi in the other room and stream to your hearts content. If your Hi-Fi has a digital input then you can make full use of this by using the digital output of the Airport Express. You can also put the Airport Express to good use as an extra Wireless Access Point, Wireless Extender etc. I think the Airport Express is only $50 now, about the same cost as a good
RE: SV: lossless music streaming by wifi
I have something called a veetop sold by amazon that will do what you want for $36 American and even sports an optical output. The manual isn't great and therefor it only got a 3.7 ranking on Amazon. Asside from the audio, you can transmit to your wi-fi or if you are traveling in a car directly to it from a smart phone or Idevice. It originally sold for something like $89 but is now $36. Because of the louxy manual, Amazon does have an instruction page you can get to by clicking on the veetop link in the description. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 10:51 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: SV: lossless music streaming by wifi Thanks for that, I'll follow this one up as I'm looking for something that supports DLNA, my Denon AVR2113 and other devices support DLNA but I'm looking for a Stand-Alone device similar to the Airport Express so I can hook that up to other devices with a line-in. I did know of other solutions but wanted to keep the thing simple and cost affective as the person who started the discussion was on a budget. Arcam for example have a complete AirPlay DAC solution which replaces the Airport Express, its $800 though - I'm sure its worth every penny knowing the quality of Arcam gear -. Only my musings of course but - when it comes to audio quality - I think I'd rather put my faith in company's with a reputation for audio quality such as Arcam rather than those that don't have a reputation for audio quality such as Dlink but - having said all that - I appreciate that we're all on a limited budget and have to do the best we can do with what we can afford. On 21/04/2015 12:37 AM, brianolesen wrote: Hi, Actually there are other great solutions as well. DLink has a very cool one. DCH-M225 It supports a wider span of protocols. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane Trethowan Sendt: 19. april 2015 20:07 Til: PC Audio Discussion List Emne: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi the output jack of the Airport Express is a line-out jack, the jack is a 3.5MM jack which can either be used for analogue or digital line-out. On 20/04/2015 4:01 AM, André van Deventer wrote: Dane Can you please explain. If I want to invest in this I would like to know as much as possible. Also, do you know whether the 3.5 mm jack is a high impedence output as for connection to stereo systems or a low impedence output as for use with headphones? My system does not have digital inputs and I do not have the funds to invest in this at this stage. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 19 April 2015 07:45 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi Come again? Who said anything about using iTunesw, there are other options that can be used. On 20/04/2015 3:22 AM, Fanus wrote: Hello I think Andre's problem is that he does not want to use iTunes to stream. I too have the Express and unlike many folks I like iTunes. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 7:08 PM Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi This can be made so very simple, buy an Apple Airport Express plug it into the Line-in of your Hi-Fi in the other room and stream to your hearts content. If your Hi-Fi has a digital input then you can make full use of this by using the digital output of the Airport Express. You can also put the Airport Express to good use as an extra Wireless Access Point, Wireless Extender etc. I think the Airport Express is only $50 now, about the same cost as a good RCA lead and yep, I wouldn't like to risk running a long RCA lead, the possability of more interference and loss of quality is certainly there. I don't want to brag but streaming around my house is my passion so yeah, I like to think I know one or two things about streaming or getting audio/video from one location to another smile. On 20/04/2015 2:46 AM, André van Deventer wrote: Hi all Am moving to a new flat and have to sort out my sound stuff now. I play all my music through the computer now. My hifi system will be standing in one room and my computer in another one. So I need to get the sound from one to the other. I have the following options: 1.Using the output of a digital to audio converter and lay down an RCA to RCA cable of quite a few meters from one room to the other. This might be the cheapest way. But with such a long cable you will start to find interference as these cables are not supposed to be so long. And you do also get some sound reduction. 2.Using some kind of LAN device. I do not know
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Now that's nice! a cheap DAC for an iPhone and its about time there was one. So I take it this device supports AirPlay and does it support DLNA as well? On 22/04/2015 8:01 AM, Tim Grady wrote: I have something called a veetop sold by amazon that will do what you want for $36 American and even sports an optical output. The manual isn't great and therefor it only got a 3.7 ranking on Amazon. Asside from the audio, you can transmit to your wi-fi or if you are traveling in a car directly to it from a smart phone or Idevice. It originally sold for something like $89 but is now $36. Because of the louxy manual, Amazon does have an instruction page you can get to by clicking on the veetop link in the description. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 10:51 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: SV: lossless music streaming by wifi Thanks for that, I'll follow this one up as I'm looking for something that supports DLNA, my Denon AVR2113 and other devices support DLNA but I'm looking for a Stand-Alone device similar to the Airport Express so I can hook that up to other devices with a line-in. I did know of other solutions but wanted to keep the thing simple and cost affective as the person who started the discussion was on a budget. Arcam for example have a complete AirPlay DAC solution which replaces the Airport Express, its $800 though - I'm sure its worth every penny knowing the quality of Arcam gear -. Only my musings of course but - when it comes to audio quality - I think I'd rather put my faith in company's with a reputation for audio quality such as Arcam rather than those that don't have a reputation for audio quality such as Dlink but - having said all that - I appreciate that we're all on a limited budget and have to do the best we can do with what we can afford. On 21/04/2015 12:37 AM, brianolesen wrote: Hi, Actually there are other great solutions as well. DLink has a very cool one. DCH-M225 It supports a wider span of protocols. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane Trethowan Sendt: 19. april 2015 20:07 Til: PC Audio Discussion List Emne: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi the output jack of the Airport Express is a line-out jack, the jack is a 3.5MM jack which can either be used for analogue or digital line-out. On 20/04/2015 4:01 AM, André van Deventer wrote: Dane Can you please explain. If I want to invest in this I would like to know as much as possible. Also, do you know whether the 3.5 mm jack is a high impedence output as for connection to stereo systems or a low impedence output as for use with headphones? My system does not have digital inputs and I do not have the funds to invest in this at this stage. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 19 April 2015 07:45 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi Come again? Who said anything about using iTunesw, there are other options that can be used. On 20/04/2015 3:22 AM, Fanus wrote: Hello I think Andre's problem is that he does not want to use iTunes to stream. I too have the Express and unlike many folks I like iTunes. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 7:08 PM Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi This can be made so very simple, buy an Apple Airport Express plug it into the Line-in of your Hi-Fi in the other room and stream to your hearts content. If your Hi-Fi has a digital input then you can make full use of this by using the digital output of the Airport Express. You can also put the Airport Express to good use as an extra Wireless Access Point, Wireless Extender etc. I think the Airport Express is only $50 now, about the same cost as a good RCA lead and yep, I wouldn't like to risk running a long RCA lead, the possability of more interference and loss of quality is certainly there. I don't want to brag but streaming around my house is my passion so yeah, I like to think I know one or two things about streaming or getting audio/video from one location to another smile. On 20/04/2015 2:46 AM, André van Deventer wrote: Hi all Am moving to a new flat and have to sort out my sound stuff now. I play all my music through the computer now. My hifi system will be standing in one room and my computer in another one. So I need to get the sound from one to the other. I have the following options: 1.Using the output of a digital to audio converter and lay down an RCA to RCA cable of quite a few meters from one room to the other. This might be the cheapest way. But with such a long cable you will start to find interference as these cables
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While we're on the subject of streaming, has anyone managed to stream from Windows Media Player to a DLNA device? Its something I've not tried as yet. On 22/04/2015 8:53 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Nice, I'll have to see where I can find one, as far as I know Amazon don't ship electronic goods to Australia. On 22/04/2015 8:23 AM, Tim Grady wrote: Sure does. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 6:16 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: SV: lossless music streaming by wifi Now that's nice! a cheap DAC for an iPhone and its about time there was one. So I take it this device supports AirPlay and does it support DLNA as well? On 22/04/2015 8:01 AM, Tim Grady wrote: I have something called a veetop sold by amazon that will do what you want for $36 American and even sports an optical output. The manual isn't great and therefor it only got a 3.7 ranking on Amazon. Asside from the audio, you can transmit to your wi-fi or if you are traveling in a car directly to it from a smart phone or Idevice. It originally sold for something like $89 but is now $36. Because of the louxy manual, Amazon does have an instruction page you can get to by clicking on the veetop link in the description. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 10:51 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: SV: lossless music streaming by wifi Thanks for that, I'll follow this one up as I'm looking for something that supports DLNA, my Denon AVR2113 and other devices support DLNA but I'm looking for a Stand-Alone device similar to the Airport Express so I can hook that up to other devices with a line-in. I did know of other solutions but wanted to keep the thing simple and cost affective as the person who started the discussion was on a budget. Arcam for example have a complete AirPlay DAC solution which replaces the Airport Express, its $800 though - I'm sure its worth every penny knowing the quality of Arcam gear -. Only my musings of course but - when it comes to audio quality - I think I'd rather put my faith in company's with a reputation for audio quality such as Arcam rather than those that don't have a reputation for audio quality such as Dlink but - having said all that - I appreciate that we're all on a limited budget and have to do the best we can do with what we can afford. On 21/04/2015 12:37 AM, brianolesen wrote: Hi, Actually there are other great solutions as well. DLink has a very cool one. DCH-M225 It supports a wider span of protocols. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane Trethowan Sendt: 19. april 2015 20:07 Til: PC Audio Discussion List Emne: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi the output jack of the Airport Express is a line-out jack, the jack is a 3.5MM jack which can either be used for analogue or digital line-out. On 20/04/2015 4:01 AM, André van Deventer wrote: Dane Can you please explain. If I want to invest in this I would like to know as much as possible. Also, do you know whether the 3.5 mm jack is a high impedence output as for connection to stereo systems or a low impedence output as for use with headphones? My system does not have digital inputs and I do not have the funds to invest in this at this stage. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 19 April 2015 07:45 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi Come again? Who said anything about using iTunesw, there are other options that can be used. On 20/04/2015 3:22 AM, Fanus wrote: Hello I think Andre's problem is that he does not want to use iTunes to stream. I too have the Express and unlike many folks I like iTunes. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 7:08 PM Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi This can be made so very simple, buy an Apple Airport Express plug it into the Line-in of your Hi-Fi in the other room and stream to your hearts content. If your Hi-Fi has a digital input then you can make full use of this by using the digital output of the Airport Express. You can also put the Airport Express to good use as an extra Wireless Access Point, Wireless Extender etc. I think the Airport Express is only $50 now, about the same cost as a good RCA lead and yep, I wouldn't like to risk running a long RCA lead, the possability of more interference and loss of quality is certainly there. I don't want to brag but streaming around my house is my passion so yeah, I like to think I know one or two things about streaming or getting audio/video from one
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Nice, I'll have to see where I can find one, as far as I know Amazon don't ship electronic goods to Australia. On 22/04/2015 8:23 AM, Tim Grady wrote: Sure does. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 6:16 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: SV: lossless music streaming by wifi Now that's nice! a cheap DAC for an iPhone and its about time there was one. So I take it this device supports AirPlay and does it support DLNA as well? On 22/04/2015 8:01 AM, Tim Grady wrote: I have something called a veetop sold by amazon that will do what you want for $36 American and even sports an optical output. The manual isn't great and therefor it only got a 3.7 ranking on Amazon. Asside from the audio, you can transmit to your wi-fi or if you are traveling in a car directly to it from a smart phone or Idevice. It originally sold for something like $89 but is now $36. Because of the louxy manual, Amazon does have an instruction page you can get to by clicking on the veetop link in the description. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 10:51 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: SV: lossless music streaming by wifi Thanks for that, I'll follow this one up as I'm looking for something that supports DLNA, my Denon AVR2113 and other devices support DLNA but I'm looking for a Stand-Alone device similar to the Airport Express so I can hook that up to other devices with a line-in. I did know of other solutions but wanted to keep the thing simple and cost affective as the person who started the discussion was on a budget. Arcam for example have a complete AirPlay DAC solution which replaces the Airport Express, its $800 though - I'm sure its worth every penny knowing the quality of Arcam gear -. Only my musings of course but - when it comes to audio quality - I think I'd rather put my faith in company's with a reputation for audio quality such as Arcam rather than those that don't have a reputation for audio quality such as Dlink but - having said all that - I appreciate that we're all on a limited budget and have to do the best we can do with what we can afford. On 21/04/2015 12:37 AM, brianolesen wrote: Hi, Actually there are other great solutions as well. DLink has a very cool one. DCH-M225 It supports a wider span of protocols. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane Trethowan Sendt: 19. april 2015 20:07 Til: PC Audio Discussion List Emne: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi the output jack of the Airport Express is a line-out jack, the jack is a 3.5MM jack which can either be used for analogue or digital line-out. On 20/04/2015 4:01 AM, André van Deventer wrote: Dane Can you please explain. If I want to invest in this I would like to know as much as possible. Also, do you know whether the 3.5 mm jack is a high impedence output as for connection to stereo systems or a low impedence output as for use with headphones? My system does not have digital inputs and I do not have the funds to invest in this at this stage. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 19 April 2015 07:45 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi Come again? Who said anything about using iTunesw, there are other options that can be used. On 20/04/2015 3:22 AM, Fanus wrote: Hello I think Andre's problem is that he does not want to use iTunes to stream. I too have the Express and unlike many folks I like iTunes. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 7:08 PM Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi This can be made so very simple, buy an Apple Airport Express plug it into the Line-in of your Hi-Fi in the other room and stream to your hearts content. If your Hi-Fi has a digital input then you can make full use of this by using the digital output of the Airport Express. You can also put the Airport Express to good use as an extra Wireless Access Point, Wireless Extender etc. I think the Airport Express is only $50 now, about the same cost as a good RCA lead and yep, I wouldn't like to risk running a long RCA lead, the possability of more interference and loss of quality is certainly there. I don't want to brag but streaming around my house is my passion so yeah, I like to think I know one or two things about streaming or getting audio/video from one location to another smile. On 20/04/2015 2:46 AM, André van Deventer wrote: Hi all Am moving to a new flat and have to sort out my sound stuff now. I play all my music through the computer now. My hifi system
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Sure does. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 6:16 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: SV: lossless music streaming by wifi Now that's nice! a cheap DAC for an iPhone and its about time there was one. So I take it this device supports AirPlay and does it support DLNA as well? On 22/04/2015 8:01 AM, Tim Grady wrote: I have something called a veetop sold by amazon that will do what you want for $36 American and even sports an optical output. The manual isn't great and therefor it only got a 3.7 ranking on Amazon. Asside from the audio, you can transmit to your wi-fi or if you are traveling in a car directly to it from a smart phone or Idevice. It originally sold for something like $89 but is now $36. Because of the louxy manual, Amazon does have an instruction page you can get to by clicking on the veetop link in the description. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 10:51 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: SV: lossless music streaming by wifi Thanks for that, I'll follow this one up as I'm looking for something that supports DLNA, my Denon AVR2113 and other devices support DLNA but I'm looking for a Stand-Alone device similar to the Airport Express so I can hook that up to other devices with a line-in. I did know of other solutions but wanted to keep the thing simple and cost affective as the person who started the discussion was on a budget. Arcam for example have a complete AirPlay DAC solution which replaces the Airport Express, its $800 though - I'm sure its worth every penny knowing the quality of Arcam gear -. Only my musings of course but - when it comes to audio quality - I think I'd rather put my faith in company's with a reputation for audio quality such as Arcam rather than those that don't have a reputation for audio quality such as Dlink but - having said all that - I appreciate that we're all on a limited budget and have to do the best we can do with what we can afford. On 21/04/2015 12:37 AM, brianolesen wrote: Hi, Actually there are other great solutions as well. DLink has a very cool one. DCH-M225 It supports a wider span of protocols. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane Trethowan Sendt: 19. april 2015 20:07 Til: PC Audio Discussion List Emne: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi the output jack of the Airport Express is a line-out jack, the jack is a 3.5MM jack which can either be used for analogue or digital line-out. On 20/04/2015 4:01 AM, André van Deventer wrote: Dane Can you please explain. If I want to invest in this I would like to know as much as possible. Also, do you know whether the 3.5 mm jack is a high impedence output as for connection to stereo systems or a low impedence output as for use with headphones? My system does not have digital inputs and I do not have the funds to invest in this at this stage. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 19 April 2015 07:45 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi Come again? Who said anything about using iTunesw, there are other options that can be used. On 20/04/2015 3:22 AM, Fanus wrote: Hello I think Andre's problem is that he does not want to use iTunes to stream. I too have the Express and unlike many folks I like iTunes. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 7:08 PM Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi This can be made so very simple, buy an Apple Airport Express plug it into the Line-in of your Hi-Fi in the other room and stream to your hearts content. If your Hi-Fi has a digital input then you can make full use of this by using the digital output of the Airport Express. You can also put the Airport Express to good use as an extra Wireless Access Point, Wireless Extender etc. I think the Airport Express is only $50 now, about the same cost as a good RCA lead and yep, I wouldn't like to risk running a long RCA lead, the possability of more interference and loss of quality is certainly there. I don't want to brag but streaming around my house is my passion so yeah, I like to think I know one or two things about streaming or getting audio/video from one location to another smile. On 20/04/2015 2:46 AM, André van Deventer wrote: Hi all Am moving to a new flat and have to sort out my sound stuff now. I play all my music through the computer now. My hifi system will be standing in one room and my computer in another one. So I need to get the sound
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Thanks for that, I'll follow this one up as I'm looking for something that supports DLNA, my Denon AVR2113 and other devices support DLNA but I'm looking for a Stand-Alone device similar to the Airport Express so I can hook that up to other devices with a line-in. I did know of other solutions but wanted to keep the thing simple and cost affective as the person who started the discussion was on a budget. Arcam for example have a complete AirPlay DAC solution which replaces the Airport Express, its $800 though - I'm sure its worth every penny knowing the quality of Arcam gear -. Only my musings of course but - when it comes to audio quality - I think I'd rather put my faith in company's with a reputation for audio quality such as Arcam rather than those that don't have a reputation for audio quality such as Dlink but - having said all that - I appreciate that we're all on a limited budget and have to do the best we can do with what we can afford. On 21/04/2015 12:37 AM, brianolesen wrote: Hi, Actually there are other great solutions as well. DLink has a very cool one. DCH-M225 It supports a wider span of protocols. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane Trethowan Sendt: 19. april 2015 20:07 Til: PC Audio Discussion List Emne: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi the output jack of the Airport Express is a line-out jack, the jack is a 3.5MM jack which can either be used for analogue or digital line-out. On 20/04/2015 4:01 AM, André van Deventer wrote: Dane Can you please explain. If I want to invest in this I would like to know as much as possible. Also, do you know whether the 3.5 mm jack is a high impedence output as for connection to stereo systems or a low impedence output as for use with headphones? My system does not have digital inputs and I do not have the funds to invest in this at this stage. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 19 April 2015 07:45 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi Come again? Who said anything about using iTunesw, there are other options that can be used. On 20/04/2015 3:22 AM, Fanus wrote: Hello I think Andre's problem is that he does not want to use iTunes to stream. I too have the Express and unlike many folks I like iTunes. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 7:08 PM Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi This can be made so very simple, buy an Apple Airport Express plug it into the Line-in of your Hi-Fi in the other room and stream to your hearts content. If your Hi-Fi has a digital input then you can make full use of this by using the digital output of the Airport Express. You can also put the Airport Express to good use as an extra Wireless Access Point, Wireless Extender etc. I think the Airport Express is only $50 now, about the same cost as a good RCA lead and yep, I wouldn't like to risk running a long RCA lead, the possability of more interference and loss of quality is certainly there. I don't want to brag but streaming around my house is my passion so yeah, I like to think I know one or two things about streaming or getting audio/video from one location to another smile. On 20/04/2015 2:46 AM, André van Deventer wrote: Hi all Am moving to a new flat and have to sort out my sound stuff now. I play all my music through the computer now. My hifi system will be standing in one room and my computer in another one. So I need to get the sound from one to the other. I have the following options: 1.Using the output of a digital to audio converter and lay down an RCA to RCA cable of quite a few meters from one room to the other. This might be the cheapest way. But with such a long cable you will start to find interference as these cables are not supposed to be so long. And you do also get some sound reduction. 2.Using some kind of LAN device. I do not know if such a thing exist at all – a device with which you can stream music ythrough LAN that has an analog output. It would also necessitate the laying of long cables which could also be a problem. 3.Then there is the option I may want to examine. My question is whether with the technology available today it is possible to stream music in lossless format through a WIFI connection. I would like to do this using my media player of choice which is Foobar 2000 at present. I don’t want to use Itunes as I find it cumbersome and limited. Any suggestions about which way to go? -- ** Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves -- ** Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves
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Hi, Actually there are other great solutions as well. DLink has a very cool one. DCH-M225 It supports a wider span of protocols. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane Trethowan Sendt: 19. april 2015 20:07 Til: PC Audio Discussion List Emne: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi the output jack of the Airport Express is a line-out jack, the jack is a 3.5MM jack which can either be used for analogue or digital line-out. On 20/04/2015 4:01 AM, André van Deventer wrote: Dane Can you please explain. If I want to invest in this I would like to know as much as possible. Also, do you know whether the 3.5 mm jack is a high impedence output as for connection to stereo systems or a low impedence output as for use with headphones? My system does not have digital inputs and I do not have the funds to invest in this at this stage. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 19 April 2015 07:45 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi Come again? Who said anything about using iTunesw, there are other options that can be used. On 20/04/2015 3:22 AM, Fanus wrote: Hello I think Andre's problem is that he does not want to use iTunes to stream. I too have the Express and unlike many folks I like iTunes. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 7:08 PM Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi This can be made so very simple, buy an Apple Airport Express plug it into the Line-in of your Hi-Fi in the other room and stream to your hearts content. If your Hi-Fi has a digital input then you can make full use of this by using the digital output of the Airport Express. You can also put the Airport Express to good use as an extra Wireless Access Point, Wireless Extender etc. I think the Airport Express is only $50 now, about the same cost as a good RCA lead and yep, I wouldn't like to risk running a long RCA lead, the possability of more interference and loss of quality is certainly there. I don't want to brag but streaming around my house is my passion so yeah, I like to think I know one or two things about streaming or getting audio/video from one location to another smile. On 20/04/2015 2:46 AM, André van Deventer wrote: Hi all Am moving to a new flat and have to sort out my sound stuff now. I play all my music through the computer now. My hifi system will be standing in one room and my computer in another one. So I need to get the sound from one to the other. I have the following options: 1.Using the output of a digital to audio converter and lay down an RCA to RCA cable of quite a few meters from one room to the other. This might be the cheapest way. But with such a long cable you will start to find interference as these cables are not supposed to be so long. And you do also get some sound reduction. 2.Using some kind of LAN device. I do not know if such a thing exist at all a device with which you can stream music ythrough LAN that has an analog output. It would also necessitate the laying of long cables which could also be a problem. 3.Then there is the option I may want to examine. My question is whether with the technology available today it is possible to stream music in lossless format through a WIFI connection. I would like to do this using my media player of choice which is Foobar 2000 at present. I dont want to use Itunes as I find it cumbersome and limited. Any suggestions about which way to go? -- ** Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves -- ** Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves
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Indeed, people can dispute what they like and if they want to act as clowns then that's their problem. On 21/04/2015 2:38 AM, André van Deventer wrote: Dane thanx You may find some people who may dispute your claim that the audio quality of digital equipment is necessarily better than analog. Be that as it may though. Thanx for this information. I'll look into all of these things. Will also depend on what is available over here. Andre -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 20 April 2015 05:59 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: SV: lossless music streaming by wifi Hi! I just bought one of these, hard to knock it at $59 which is what I paid but there are some issues to consider and many of these are mentioned in the review I link to below. Firstly, this device doesn't have a digital audio output, just analogue so if you're looking for top notch audio quality out of the cube then just forget it because you're totally reliant on what the device gives you through its DAC'S which is probably okay for most people who will be streaming some sort of compressed data to the device anywah. Second, the device only supports 1 Wi-Fi band, 2.4GHZ and that's really not good enough these days when just about everything else supports both 2.4 and5.0 GHZ bands, the Airport Express supports both similtaniously meaning that if there's interference on one then the Airport Express and your streaming device will negotiate a channel on another band. The D-Link device has a Auto Setup button - WPS - on it which is fine for those who have WPS compatible rooter hardware - most do - so read up on this before you buy so you know how the procedure works, setup should then be a breeze and take around 2 minutes. If your rooter doesn't have WPS then you're going to have to go through the manual setup, this involves joining the Wi-Fi network of the D-Link as I understand it and having the D-Link recognise your rooters Wi-Fi details. Its a shame the D-Link doesn't have a LAN port so other devices can connect to it thus utilise the full benefit of the Wi-Fi extension, the Airport Express has a LAN port so you can connect another computer for example to it via a LAN cable but then again the D-Link is cheap. Apart from all that, the device looks a good bargain to be had at $59, audio quality wasn't particularly what I was after so this doesn't bother me, I'm going to be using the device to stream from my cable box in the lounge to an older music system by my bedside, will be absolutely perfect for that. Anyway to the review. http://www.digitaltrends.com/connected-home-reviews/dlink-wi-fi-audio-extend er-review/ On 21/04/2015 12:37 AM, brianolesen wrote: Hi, Actually there are other great solutions as well. DLink has a very cool one. DCH-M225 It supports a wider span of protocols. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane Trethowan Sendt: 19. april 2015 20:07 Til: PC Audio Discussion List Emne: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi the output jack of the Airport Express is a line-out jack, the jack is a 3.5MM jack which can either be used for analogue or digital line-out. On 20/04/2015 4:01 AM, André van Deventer wrote: Dane Can you please explain. If I want to invest in this I would like to know as much as possible. Also, do you know whether the 3.5 mm jack is a high impedence output as for connection to stereo systems or a low impedence output as for use with headphones? My system does not have digital inputs and I do not have the funds to invest in this at this stage. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 19 April 2015 07:45 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi Come again? Who said anything about using iTunesw, there are other options that can be used. On 20/04/2015 3:22 AM, Fanus wrote: Hello I think Andre's problem is that he does not want to use iTunes to stream. I too have the Express and unlike many folks I like iTunes. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 7:08 PM Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi This can be made so very simple, buy an Apple Airport Express plug it into the Line-in of your Hi-Fi in the other room and stream to your hearts content. If your Hi-Fi has a digital input then you can make full use of this by using the digital output of the Airport Express. You can also put the Airport Express to good use as an extra Wireless Access Point, Wireless Extender etc. I think the Airport Express is only $50 now, about the same cost as a good RCA lead and yep, I wouldn't like to risk running a long RCA lead, the possability of more interference and loss of quality
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Dane thanx You may find some people who may dispute your claim that the audio quality of digital equipment is necessarily better than analog. Be that as it may though. Thanx for this information. I'll look into all of these things. Will also depend on what is available over here. Andre -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 20 April 2015 05:59 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: SV: lossless music streaming by wifi Hi! I just bought one of these, hard to knock it at $59 which is what I paid but there are some issues to consider and many of these are mentioned in the review I link to below. Firstly, this device doesn't have a digital audio output, just analogue so if you're looking for top notch audio quality out of the cube then just forget it because you're totally reliant on what the device gives you through its DAC'S which is probably okay for most people who will be streaming some sort of compressed data to the device anywah. Second, the device only supports 1 Wi-Fi band, 2.4GHZ and that's really not good enough these days when just about everything else supports both 2.4 and5.0 GHZ bands, the Airport Express supports both similtaniously meaning that if there's interference on one then the Airport Express and your streaming device will negotiate a channel on another band. The D-Link device has a Auto Setup button - WPS - on it which is fine for those who have WPS compatible rooter hardware - most do - so read up on this before you buy so you know how the procedure works, setup should then be a breeze and take around 2 minutes. If your rooter doesn't have WPS then you're going to have to go through the manual setup, this involves joining the Wi-Fi network of the D-Link as I understand it and having the D-Link recognise your rooters Wi-Fi details. Its a shame the D-Link doesn't have a LAN port so other devices can connect to it thus utilise the full benefit of the Wi-Fi extension, the Airport Express has a LAN port so you can connect another computer for example to it via a LAN cable but then again the D-Link is cheap. Apart from all that, the device looks a good bargain to be had at $59, audio quality wasn't particularly what I was after so this doesn't bother me, I'm going to be using the device to stream from my cable box in the lounge to an older music system by my bedside, will be absolutely perfect for that. Anyway to the review. http://www.digitaltrends.com/connected-home-reviews/dlink-wi-fi-audio-extend er-review/ On 21/04/2015 12:37 AM, brianolesen wrote: Hi, Actually there are other great solutions as well. DLink has a very cool one. DCH-M225 It supports a wider span of protocols. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane Trethowan Sendt: 19. april 2015 20:07 Til: PC Audio Discussion List Emne: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi the output jack of the Airport Express is a line-out jack, the jack is a 3.5MM jack which can either be used for analogue or digital line-out. On 20/04/2015 4:01 AM, André van Deventer wrote: Dane Can you please explain. If I want to invest in this I would like to know as much as possible. Also, do you know whether the 3.5 mm jack is a high impedence output as for connection to stereo systems or a low impedence output as for use with headphones? My system does not have digital inputs and I do not have the funds to invest in this at this stage. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 19 April 2015 07:45 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi Come again? Who said anything about using iTunesw, there are other options that can be used. On 20/04/2015 3:22 AM, Fanus wrote: Hello I think Andre's problem is that he does not want to use iTunes to stream. I too have the Express and unlike many folks I like iTunes. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 7:08 PM Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi This can be made so very simple, buy an Apple Airport Express plug it into the Line-in of your Hi-Fi in the other room and stream to your hearts content. If your Hi-Fi has a digital input then you can make full use of this by using the digital output of the Airport Express. You can also put the Airport Express to good use as an extra Wireless Access Point, Wireless Extender etc. I think the Airport Express is only $50 now, about the same cost as a good RCA lead and yep, I wouldn't like to risk running a long RCA lead, the possability of more interference and loss of quality is certainly there. I don't want to brag but streaming around my house is my passion so yeah, I
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Hi! I just bought one of these, hard to knock it at $59 which is what I paid but there are some issues to consider and many of these are mentioned in the review I link to below. Firstly, this device doesn't have a digital audio output, just analogue so if you're looking for top notch audio quality out of the cube then just forget it because you're totally reliant on what the device gives you through its DAC'S which is probably okay for most people who will be streaming some sort of compressed data to the device anywah. Second, the device only supports 1 Wi-Fi band, 2.4GHZ and that's really not good enough these days when just about everything else supports both 2.4 and5.0 GHZ bands, the Airport Express supports both similtaniously meaning that if there's interference on one then the Airport Express and your streaming device will negotiate a channel on another band. The D-Link device has a Auto Setup button - WPS - on it which is fine for those who have WPS compatible rooter hardware - most do - so read up on this before you buy so you know how the procedure works, setup should then be a breeze and take around 2 minutes. If your rooter doesn't have WPS then you're going to have to go through the manual setup, this involves joining the Wi-Fi network of the D-Link as I understand it and having the D-Link recognise your rooters Wi-Fi details. Its a shame the D-Link doesn't have a LAN port so other devices can connect to it thus utilise the full benefit of the Wi-Fi extension, the Airport Express has a LAN port so you can connect another computer for example to it via a LAN cable but then again the D-Link is cheap. Apart from all that, the device looks a good bargain to be had at $59, audio quality wasn't particularly what I was after so this doesn't bother me, I'm going to be using the device to stream from my cable box in the lounge to an older music system by my bedside, will be absolutely perfect for that. Anyway to the review. http://www.digitaltrends.com/connected-home-reviews/dlink-wi-fi-audio-extender-review/ On 21/04/2015 12:37 AM, brianolesen wrote: Hi, Actually there are other great solutions as well. DLink has a very cool one. DCH-M225 It supports a wider span of protocols. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane Trethowan Sendt: 19. april 2015 20:07 Til: PC Audio Discussion List Emne: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi the output jack of the Airport Express is a line-out jack, the jack is a 3.5MM jack which can either be used for analogue or digital line-out. On 20/04/2015 4:01 AM, André van Deventer wrote: Dane Can you please explain. If I want to invest in this I would like to know as much as possible. Also, do you know whether the 3.5 mm jack is a high impedence output as for connection to stereo systems or a low impedence output as for use with headphones? My system does not have digital inputs and I do not have the funds to invest in this at this stage. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 19 April 2015 07:45 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi Come again? Who said anything about using iTunesw, there are other options that can be used. On 20/04/2015 3:22 AM, Fanus wrote: Hello I think Andre's problem is that he does not want to use iTunes to stream. I too have the Express and unlike many folks I like iTunes. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 7:08 PM Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi This can be made so very simple, buy an Apple Airport Express plug it into the Line-in of your Hi-Fi in the other room and stream to your hearts content. If your Hi-Fi has a digital input then you can make full use of this by using the digital output of the Airport Express. You can also put the Airport Express to good use as an extra Wireless Access Point, Wireless Extender etc. I think the Airport Express is only $50 now, about the same cost as a good RCA lead and yep, I wouldn't like to risk running a long RCA lead, the possability of more interference and loss of quality is certainly there. I don't want to brag but streaming around my house is my passion so yeah, I like to think I know one or two things about streaming or getting audio/video from one location to another smile. On 20/04/2015 2:46 AM, André van Deventer wrote: Hi all Am moving to a new flat and have to sort out my sound stuff now. I play all my music through the computer now. My hifi system will be standing in one room and my computer in another one. So I need to get the sound from one to the other. I have the following options: 1.Using the output of a digital to audio converter and lay down an RCA to RCA cable of quite
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Hello Dane Ok, thanks for that one. Just as a matter of interest: have you ever tried to streem to the Express from another portable device which is not Apple related but which can connect to wifi? I thought that it is the airplay function which causes the streaming and which keeps voiceOver voice on the iDevice. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 7:46 PM Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi Yes is the answer to both points. You use a utility to stream the music from your computer called Airfoil, you select what you want streamed, you can stream Applications, a line-in source, from your CD-ROM drive etc. On 20/04/2015 3:33 AM, André van Deventer wrote: Dane Is the streaming lossless? And can you use the media player of your choice? I would not like to be stuck with itunes. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 19 April 2015 07:09 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi This can be made so very simple, buy an Apple Airport Express plug it into the Line-in of your Hi-Fi in the other room and stream to your hearts content. If your Hi-Fi has a digital input then you can make full use of this by using the digital output of the Airport Express. You can also put the Airport Express to good use as an extra Wireless Access Point, Wireless Extender etc. I think the Airport Express is only $50 now, about the same cost as a good RCA lead and yep, I wouldn't like to risk running a long RCA lead, the possability of more interference and loss of quality is certainly there. I don't want to brag but streaming around my house is my passion so yeah, I like to think I know one or two things about streaming or getting audio/video from one location to another smile. On 20/04/2015 2:46 AM, André van Deventer wrote: Hi all Am moving to a new flat and have to sort out my sound stuff now. I play all my music through the computer now. My hifi system will be standing in one room and my computer in another one. So I need to get the sound from one to the other. I have the following options: 1.Using the output of a digital to audio converter and lay down an RCA to RCA cable of quite a few meters from one room to the other. This might be the cheapest way. But with such a long cable you will start to find interference as these cables are not supposed to be so long. And you do also get some sound reduction. 2.Using some kind of LAN device. I do not know if such a thing exist at all – a device with which you can stream music ythrough LAN that has an analog output. It would also necessitate the laying of long cables which could also be a problem. 3.Then there is the option I may want to examine. My question is whether with the technology available today it is possible to stream music in lossless format through a WIFI connection. I would like to do this using my media player of choice which is Foobar 2000 at present. I don’t want to use Itunes as I find it cumbersome and limited. Any suggestions about which way to go? -- ** Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves
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Hi! Then one can buy airfoil for windows. /A 19 apr 2015 kl. 19:22 skrev Fanus buys.fa...@gmail.com: Hello I think Andre's problem is that he does not want to use iTunes to stream. I too have the Express and unlike many folks I like iTunes. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 7:08 PM Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi This can be made so very simple, buy an Apple Airport Express plug it into the Line-in of your Hi-Fi in the other room and stream to your hearts content. If your Hi-Fi has a digital input then you can make full use of this by using the digital output of the Airport Express. You can also put the Airport Express to good use as an extra Wireless Access Point, Wireless Extender etc. I think the Airport Express is only $50 now, about the same cost as a good RCA lead and yep, I wouldn't like to risk running a long RCA lead, the possability of more interference and loss of quality is certainly there. I don't want to brag but streaming around my house is my passion so yeah, I like to think I know one or two things about streaming or getting audio/video from one location to another smile. On 20/04/2015 2:46 AM, André van Deventer wrote: Hi all Am moving to a new flat and have to sort out my sound stuff now. I play all my music through the computer now. My hifi system will be standing in one room and my computer in another one. So I need to get the sound from one to the other. I have the following options: 1.Using the output of a digital to audio converter and lay down an RCA to RCA cable of quite a few meters from one room to the other. This might be the cheapest way. But with such a long cable you will start to find interference as these cables are not supposed to be so long. And you do also get some sound reduction. 2.Using some kind of LAN device. I do not know if such a thing exist at all – a device with which you can stream music ythrough LAN that has an analog output. It would also necessitate the laying of long cables which could also be a problem. 3.Then there is the option I may want to examine. My question is whether with the technology available today it is possible to stream music in lossless format through a WIFI connection. I would like to do this using my media player of choice which is Foobar 2000 at present. I don’t want to use Itunes as I find it cumbersome and limited. Any suggestions about which way to go? -- ** Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves
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Hi! Deppends on your preference. I have an eirport express and i think its lossless audio streaming. Or maybe dlna but dane might know this things better. Haven’t used dlna so can’t say anything about it. /A 19 apr 2015 kl. 18:46 skrev André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za: Hi all Am moving to a new flat and have to sort out my sound stuff now. I play all my music through the computer now. My hifi system will be standing in one room and my computer in another one. So I need to get the sound from one to the other. I have the following options: 1.Using the output of a digital to audio converter and lay down an RCA to RCA cable of quite a few meters from one room to the other. This might be the cheapest way. But with such a long cable you will start to find interference as these cables are not supposed to be so long. And you do also get some sound reduction. 2.Using some kind of LAN device. I do not know if such a thing exist at all – a device with which you can stream music ythrough LAN that has an analog output. It would also necessitate the laying of long cables which could also be a problem. 3.Then there is the option I may want to examine. My question is whether with the technology available today it is possible to stream music in lossless format through a WIFI connection. I would like to do this using my media player of choice which is Foobar 2000 at present. I don’t want to use Itunes as I find it cumbersome and limited. Any suggestions about which way to go?
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Yes is the answer to both points. You use a utility to stream the music from your computer called Airfoil, you select what you want streamed, you can stream Applications, a line-in source, from your CD-ROM drive etc. On 20/04/2015 3:33 AM, André van Deventer wrote: Dane Is the streaming lossless? And can you use the media player of your choice? I would not like to be stuck with itunes. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 19 April 2015 07:09 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi This can be made so very simple, buy an Apple Airport Express plug it into the Line-in of your Hi-Fi in the other room and stream to your hearts content. If your Hi-Fi has a digital input then you can make full use of this by using the digital output of the Airport Express. You can also put the Airport Express to good use as an extra Wireless Access Point, Wireless Extender etc. I think the Airport Express is only $50 now, about the same cost as a good RCA lead and yep, I wouldn't like to risk running a long RCA lead, the possability of more interference and loss of quality is certainly there. I don't want to brag but streaming around my house is my passion so yeah, I like to think I know one or two things about streaming or getting audio/video from one location to another smile. On 20/04/2015 2:46 AM, André van Deventer wrote: Hi all Am moving to a new flat and have to sort out my sound stuff now. I play all my music through the computer now. My hifi system will be standing in one room and my computer in another one. So I need to get the sound from one to the other. I have the following options: 1.Using the output of a digital to audio converter and lay down an RCA to RCA cable of quite a few meters from one room to the other. This might be the cheapest way. But with such a long cable you will start to find interference as these cables are not supposed to be so long. And you do also get some sound reduction. 2.Using some kind of LAN device. I do not know if such a thing exist at all – a device with which you can stream music ythrough LAN that has an analog output. It would also necessitate the laying of long cables which could also be a problem. 3.Then there is the option I may want to examine. My question is whether with the technology available today it is possible to stream music in lossless format through a WIFI connection. I would like to do this using my media player of choice which is Foobar 2000 at present. I don’t want to use Itunes as I find it cumbersome and limited. Any suggestions about which way to go? -- ** Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves
RE: lossless music streaming by wifi
Dane Can you please explain. If I want to invest in this I would like to know as much as possible. Also, do you know whether the 3.5 mm jack is a high impedence output as for connection to stereo systems or a low impedence output as for use with headphones? My system does not have digital inputs and I do not have the funds to invest in this at this stage. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 19 April 2015 07:45 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi Come again? Who said anything about using iTunesw, there are other options that can be used. On 20/04/2015 3:22 AM, Fanus wrote: Hello I think Andre's problem is that he does not want to use iTunes to stream. I too have the Express and unlike many folks I like iTunes. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 7:08 PM Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi This can be made so very simple, buy an Apple Airport Express plug it into the Line-in of your Hi-Fi in the other room and stream to your hearts content. If your Hi-Fi has a digital input then you can make full use of this by using the digital output of the Airport Express. You can also put the Airport Express to good use as an extra Wireless Access Point, Wireless Extender etc. I think the Airport Express is only $50 now, about the same cost as a good RCA lead and yep, I wouldn't like to risk running a long RCA lead, the possability of more interference and loss of quality is certainly there. I don't want to brag but streaming around my house is my passion so yeah, I like to think I know one or two things about streaming or getting audio/video from one location to another smile. On 20/04/2015 2:46 AM, André van Deventer wrote: Hi all Am moving to a new flat and have to sort out my sound stuff now. I play all my music through the computer now. My hifi system will be standing in one room and my computer in another one. So I need to get the sound from one to the other. I have the following options: 1.Using the output of a digital to audio converter and lay down an RCA to RCA cable of quite a few meters from one room to the other. This might be the cheapest way. But with such a long cable you will start to find interference as these cables are not supposed to be so long. And you do also get some sound reduction. 2.Using some kind of LAN device. I do not know if such a thing exist at all a device with which you can stream music ythrough LAN that has an analog output. It would also necessitate the laying of long cables which could also be a problem. 3.Then there is the option I may want to examine. My question is whether with the technology available today it is possible to stream music in lossless format through a WIFI connection. I would like to do this using my media player of choice which is Foobar 2000 at present. I dont want to use Itunes as I find it cumbersome and limited. Any suggestions about which way to go? -- ** Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves -- ** Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves
Re: lossless music streaming by wifi
It does not help you say there's other options if you don't tell what they are. Andre wants a solution and it doesn't say there are options if he does not know what they are. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 8:01 PM Subject: RE: lossless music streaming by wifi Dane Can you please explain. If I want to invest in this I would like to know as much as possible. Also, do you know whether the 3.5 mm jack is a high impedence output as for connection to stereo systems or a low impedence output as for use with headphones? My system does not have digital inputs and I do not have the funds to invest in this at this stage. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 19 April 2015 07:45 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi Come again? Who said anything about using iTunesw, there are other options that can be used. On 20/04/2015 3:22 AM, Fanus wrote: Hello I think Andre's problem is that he does not want to use iTunes to stream. I too have the Express and unlike many folks I like iTunes. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 7:08 PM Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi This can be made so very simple, buy an Apple Airport Express plug it into the Line-in of your Hi-Fi in the other room and stream to your hearts content. If your Hi-Fi has a digital input then you can make full use of this by using the digital output of the Airport Express. You can also put the Airport Express to good use as an extra Wireless Access Point, Wireless Extender etc. I think the Airport Express is only $50 now, about the same cost as a good RCA lead and yep, I wouldn't like to risk running a long RCA lead, the possability of more interference and loss of quality is certainly there. I don't want to brag but streaming around my house is my passion so yeah, I like to think I know one or two things about streaming or getting audio/video from one location to another smile. On 20/04/2015 2:46 AM, André van Deventer wrote: Hi all Am moving to a new flat and have to sort out my sound stuff now. I play all my music through the computer now. My hifi system will be standing in one room and my computer in another one. So I need to get the sound from one to the other. I have the following options: 1.Using the output of a digital to audio converter and lay down an RCA to RCA cable of quite a few meters from one room to the other. This might be the cheapest way. But with such a long cable you will start to find interference as these cables are not supposed to be so long. And you do also get some sound reduction. 2.Using some kind of LAN device. I do not know if such a thing exist at all - a device with which you can stream music ythrough LAN that has an analog output. It would also necessitate the laying of long cables which could also be a problem. 3.Then there is the option I may want to examine. My question is whether with the technology available today it is possible to stream music in lossless format through a WIFI connection. I would like to do this using my media player of choice which is Foobar 2000 at present. I don't want to use Itunes as I find it cumbersome and limited. Any suggestions about which way to go? -- ** Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves -- ** Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves
Re: lossless music streaming by wifi
Come again? Who said anything about using iTunesw, there are other options that can be used. On 20/04/2015 3:22 AM, Fanus wrote: Hello I think Andre's problem is that he does not want to use iTunes to stream. I too have the Express and unlike many folks I like iTunes. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 7:08 PM Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi This can be made so very simple, buy an Apple Airport Express plug it into the Line-in of your Hi-Fi in the other room and stream to your hearts content. If your Hi-Fi has a digital input then you can make full use of this by using the digital output of the Airport Express. You can also put the Airport Express to good use as an extra Wireless Access Point, Wireless Extender etc. I think the Airport Express is only $50 now, about the same cost as a good RCA lead and yep, I wouldn't like to risk running a long RCA lead, the possability of more interference and loss of quality is certainly there. I don't want to brag but streaming around my house is my passion so yeah, I like to think I know one or two things about streaming or getting audio/video from one location to another smile. On 20/04/2015 2:46 AM, André van Deventer wrote: Hi all Am moving to a new flat and have to sort out my sound stuff now. I play all my music through the computer now. My hifi system will be standing in one room and my computer in another one. So I need to get the sound from one to the other. I have the following options: 1.Using the output of a digital to audio converter and lay down an RCA to RCA cable of quite a few meters from one room to the other. This might be the cheapest way. But with such a long cable you will start to find interference as these cables are not supposed to be so long. And you do also get some sound reduction. 2.Using some kind of LAN device. I do not know if such a thing exist at all – a device with which you can stream music ythrough LAN that has an analog output. It would also necessitate the laying of long cables which could also be a problem. 3.Then there is the option I may want to examine. My question is whether with the technology available today it is possible to stream music in lossless format through a WIFI connection. I would like to do this using my media player of choice which is Foobar 2000 at present. I don’t want to use Itunes as I find it cumbersome and limited. Any suggestions about which way to go? -- ** Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves -- ** Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves
Re: lossless music streaming by wifi
the output jack of the Airport Express is a line-out jack, the jack is a 3.5MM jack which can either be used for analogue or digital line-out. On 20/04/2015 4:01 AM, André van Deventer wrote: Dane Can you please explain. If I want to invest in this I would like to know as much as possible. Also, do you know whether the 3.5 mm jack is a high impedence output as for connection to stereo systems or a low impedence output as for use with headphones? My system does not have digital inputs and I do not have the funds to invest in this at this stage. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 19 April 2015 07:45 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi Come again? Who said anything about using iTunesw, there are other options that can be used. On 20/04/2015 3:22 AM, Fanus wrote: Hello I think Andre's problem is that he does not want to use iTunes to stream. I too have the Express and unlike many folks I like iTunes. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 7:08 PM Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi This can be made so very simple, buy an Apple Airport Express plug it into the Line-in of your Hi-Fi in the other room and stream to your hearts content. If your Hi-Fi has a digital input then you can make full use of this by using the digital output of the Airport Express. You can also put the Airport Express to good use as an extra Wireless Access Point, Wireless Extender etc. I think the Airport Express is only $50 now, about the same cost as a good RCA lead and yep, I wouldn't like to risk running a long RCA lead, the possability of more interference and loss of quality is certainly there. I don't want to brag but streaming around my house is my passion so yeah, I like to think I know one or two things about streaming or getting audio/video from one location to another smile. On 20/04/2015 2:46 AM, André van Deventer wrote: Hi all Am moving to a new flat and have to sort out my sound stuff now. I play all my music through the computer now. My hifi system will be standing in one room and my computer in another one. So I need to get the sound from one to the other. I have the following options: 1.Using the output of a digital to audio converter and lay down an RCA to RCA cable of quite a few meters from one room to the other. This might be the cheapest way. But with such a long cable you will start to find interference as these cables are not supposed to be so long. And you do also get some sound reduction. 2.Using some kind of LAN device. I do not know if such a thing exist at all – a device with which you can stream music ythrough LAN that has an analog output. It would also necessitate the laying of long cables which could also be a problem. 3.Then there is the option I may want to examine. My question is whether with the technology available today it is possible to stream music in lossless format through a WIFI connection. I would like to do this using my media player of choice which is Foobar 2000 at present. I don’t want to use Itunes as I find it cumbersome and limited. Any suggestions about which way to go? -- ** Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves -- ** Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves
Re: lossless music streaming by wifi
If the remote speakers app works with Foobar, you can add airplay to it with that. That's what I do with Winamp. - Original Message - From: Fanus buys.fa...@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 12:22 PM Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi Hello I think Andre's problem is that he does not want to use iTunes to stream. I too have the Express and unlike many folks I like iTunes. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 7:08 PM Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi This can be made so very simple, buy an Apple Airport Express plug it into the Line-in of your Hi-Fi in the other room and stream to your hearts content. If your Hi-Fi has a digital input then you can make full use of this by using the digital output of the Airport Express. You can also put the Airport Express to good use as an extra Wireless Access Point, Wireless Extender etc. I think the Airport Express is only $50 now, about the same cost as a good RCA lead and yep, I wouldn't like to risk running a long RCA lead, the possability of more interference and loss of quality is certainly there. I don't want to brag but streaming around my house is my passion so yeah, I like to think I know one or two things about streaming or getting audio/video from one location to another smile. On 20/04/2015 2:46 AM, André van Deventer wrote: Hi all Am moving to a new flat and have to sort out my sound stuff now. I play all my music through the computer now. My hifi system will be standing in one room and my computer in another one. So I need to get the sound from one to the other. I have the following options: 1.Using the output of a digital to audio converter and lay down an RCA to RCA cable of quite a few meters from one room to the other. This might be the cheapest way. But with such a long cable you will start to find interference as these cables are not supposed to be so long. And you do also get some sound reduction. 2.Using some kind of LAN device. I do not know if such a thing exist at all – a device with which you can stream music ythrough LAN that has an analog output. It would also necessitate the laying of long cables which could also be a problem. 3.Then there is the option I may want to examine. My question is whether with the technology available today it is possible to stream music in lossless format through a WIFI connection. I would like to do this using my media player of choice which is Foobar 2000 at present. I don’t want to use Itunes as I find it cumbersome and limited. Any suggestions about which way to go? -- ** Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves
Re: lossless music streaming by wifi
Hello I think Andre's problem is that he does not want to use iTunes to stream. I too have the Express and unlike many folks I like iTunes. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 7:08 PM Subject: Re: lossless music streaming by wifi This can be made so very simple, buy an Apple Airport Express plug it into the Line-in of your Hi-Fi in the other room and stream to your hearts content. If your Hi-Fi has a digital input then you can make full use of this by using the digital output of the Airport Express. You can also put the Airport Express to good use as an extra Wireless Access Point, Wireless Extender etc. I think the Airport Express is only $50 now, about the same cost as a good RCA lead and yep, I wouldn't like to risk running a long RCA lead, the possability of more interference and loss of quality is certainly there. I don't want to brag but streaming around my house is my passion so yeah, I like to think I know one or two things about streaming or getting audio/video from one location to another smile. On 20/04/2015 2:46 AM, André van Deventer wrote: Hi all Am moving to a new flat and have to sort out my sound stuff now. I play all my music through the computer now. My hifi system will be standing in one room and my computer in another one. So I need to get the sound from one to the other. I have the following options: 1.Using the output of a digital to audio converter and lay down an RCA to RCA cable of quite a few meters from one room to the other. This might be the cheapest way. But with such a long cable you will start to find interference as these cables are not supposed to be so long. And you do also get some sound reduction. 2.Using some kind of LAN device. I do not know if such a thing exist at all – a device with which you can stream music ythrough LAN that has an analog output. It would also necessitate the laying of long cables which could also be a problem. 3.Then there is the option I may want to examine. My question is whether with the technology available today it is possible to stream music in lossless format through a WIFI connection. I would like to do this using my media player of choice which is Foobar 2000 at present. I don’t want to use Itunes as I find it cumbersome and limited. Any suggestions about which way to go? -- ** Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves
Re: lossless music streaming by wifi
This can be made so very simple, buy an Apple Airport Express plug it into the Line-in of your Hi-Fi in the other room and stream to your hearts content. If your Hi-Fi has a digital input then you can make full use of this by using the digital output of the Airport Express. You can also put the Airport Express to good use as an extra Wireless Access Point, Wireless Extender etc. I think the Airport Express is only $50 now, about the same cost as a good RCA lead and yep, I wouldn't like to risk running a long RCA lead, the possability of more interference and loss of quality is certainly there. I don't want to brag but streaming around my house is my passion so yeah, I like to think I know one or two things about streaming or getting audio/video from one location to another smile. On 20/04/2015 2:46 AM, André van Deventer wrote: Hi all Am moving to a new flat and have to sort out my sound stuff now. I play all my music through the computer now. My hifi system will be standing in one room and my computer in another one. So I need to get the sound from one to the other. I have the following options: 1.Using the output of a digital to audio converter and lay down an RCA to RCA cable of quite a few meters from one room to the other. This might be the cheapest way. But with such a long cable you will start to find interference as these cables are not supposed to be so long. And you do also get some sound reduction. 2.Using some kind of LAN device. I do not know if such a thing exist at all – a device with which you can stream music ythrough LAN that has an analog output. It would also necessitate the laying of long cables which could also be a problem. 3.Then there is the option I may want to examine. My question is whether with the technology available today it is possible to stream music in lossless format through a WIFI connection. I would like to do this using my media player of choice which is Foobar 2000 at present. I don’t want to use Itunes as I find it cumbersome and limited. Any suggestions about which way to go? -- ** Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves
lossless music streaming by wifi
Hi all Am moving to a new flat and have to sort out my sound stuff now. I play all my music through the computer now. My hifi system will be standing in one room and my computer in another one. So I need to get the sound from one to the other. I have the following options: 1.Using the output of a digital to audio converter and lay down an RCA to RCA cable of quite a few meters from one room to the other. This might be the cheapest way. But with such a long cable you will start to find interference as these cables are not supposed to be so long. And you do also get some sound reduction. 2.Using some kind of LAN device. I do not know if such a thing exist at all a device with which you can stream music ythrough LAN that has an analog output. It would also necessitate the laying of long cables which could also be a problem. 3.Then there is the option I may want to examine. My question is whether with the technology available today it is possible to stream music in lossless format through a WIFI connection. I would like to do this using my media player of choice which is Foobar 2000 at present. I dont want to use Itunes as I find it cumbersome and limited. Any suggestions about which way to go?
