[Pce] WGLC for draft-ietf-pce-pceps-tls13-01

2023-09-05 Thread julien . meuric

Dear PCE WG,

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Re: [Pce] WGLC for draft-ietf-pce-pceps-tls13-01

2023-09-13 Thread Cheng Li
Hi PCE,

I support the WGLC. The draft is simple but useful, we should move it to RFC 
very fast.

Some editorial comments:

0. Title of this draft is unclear, what is update of PCEPS. Good to explain 
more clear.

1. Abstract:
This document updates RFC 8253 to address support requirements for TLS 1.2 and 
TLS 1.3 and the use of TLS 1.3's early data.

Address? To many meanings for this word, we may change it by another? Describe? 
Same for the one in introduction.

2. Section 4.
I think the name of this section is not clear. This section describes the 
requirements in implementation. Should change to Requirements?
However, section use Early Data as a title, then we should add a section called 
requirements and move section 3 and 4 into this section?

3.Section 4
Implementations MUST support TLS 1.2 [RFC5246] and are REQUIRED to support the 
TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 cipher suite [RFC9325].

__NEW__
Implementations MUST support TLS 1.2 [RFC5246] and the 
TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 cipher suite [RFC9325].

4. 
Implementations SHOULD support TLS 1.3 [I-D.ietf-tls-rfc8446bis] and, if 
implemented, MUST prefer to negotiate TLS 1.3 over earlier versions of TLS.

If a SHOULD is used here, then I do not see the value of this draft. I suggest 
to use MUST here. Unless some features in the draft is not in the scope of 
TLS1.3.
So we don’t need to assume the case of supporting TLS1.3.

5. Section 5

The Security Considerations of PCEP [RFC5440], [RFC8231], [RFC8281], and 
[RFC8283]; TLS 1.2 [RFC5246]; TLS 1.3 [I-D.ietf-tls-rfc8446bis], and; [RFC9325] 
apply here as well.

__NEW__
The Security Considerations of PCEP [RFC5440], [RFC8231], [RFC8281], and 
[RFC8283]; TLS 1.2 [RFC5246]; TLS 1.3 [I-D.ietf-tls-rfc8446bis], and; [RFC9325] 
apply to this document as well.

I am not sure that the second paragraph should be added or it will be better to 
add into the introduction?

The rest looks good to me. 

Many thanks,
Cheng




-Original Message-
From: Pce  On Behalf Of julien.meu...@orange.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2023 11:10 AM
To: pce@ietf.org
Subject: [Pce] WGLC for draft-ietf-pce-pceps-tls13-01

Dear PCE WG,

This message starts a 2-week WG last call on
draft-ietf-pce-pceps-tls13-01 [1]. Please, be express any comments you have 
about this document using the PCE mailing list.

This WGLC will end on Wednesday 20th September 2023.

Thanks,

Julien

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[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pceps-tls13/

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Re: [Pce] WGLC for draft-ietf-pce-pceps-tls13-01

2023-10-17 Thread Sean Turner
Hi Cheng,

Sorry it’s taken me so long to get back to this. Stephane’s comment resulted in 
a fair number of changes. It short I recast the draft to focus much more on 
your 0 comment. Now it’s a little more clear about what’s being added. Just two 
things that I highlighted in my message to the list:
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/pce/5EBnkSeD5q7c55V9e2PfnIY88-0/

Cheers,
spt


> On Sep 13, 2023, at 09:06, Cheng Li  wrote:
> 
> Hi PCE,
> 
> I support the WGLC. The draft is simple but useful, we should move it to RFC 
> very fast.
> 
> Some editorial comments:
> 
> 0. Title of this draft is unclear, what is update of PCEPS. Good to explain 
> more clear.
> 
> 1. Abstract:
> This document updates RFC 8253 to address support requirements for TLS 1.2 
> and TLS 1.3 and the use of TLS 1.3's early data.
> 
> Address? To many meanings for this word, we may change it by another? 
> Describe? Same for the one in introduction.
> 
> 2. Section 4.
> I think the name of this section is not clear. This section describes the 
> requirements in implementation. Should change to Requirements?
> However, section use Early Data as a title, then we should add a section 
> called requirements and move section 3 and 4 into this section?
> 
> 3.Section 4
> Implementations MUST support TLS 1.2 [RFC5246] and are REQUIRED to support 
> the TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 cipher suite [RFC9325].
> 
> __NEW__
> Implementations MUST support TLS 1.2 [RFC5246] and the 
> TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 cipher suite [RFC9325].
> 
> 4. 
> Implementations SHOULD support TLS 1.3 [I-D.ietf-tls-rfc8446bis] and, if 
> implemented, MUST prefer to negotiate TLS 1.3 over earlier versions of TLS.
> 
> If a SHOULD is used here, then I do not see the value of this draft. I 
> suggest to use MUST here. Unless some features in the draft is not in the 
> scope of TLS1.3.
> So we don’t need to assume the case of supporting TLS1.3.
> 
> 5. Section 5
> 
> The Security Considerations of PCEP [RFC5440], [RFC8231], [RFC8281], and 
> [RFC8283]; TLS 1.2 [RFC5246]; TLS 1.3 [I-D.ietf-tls-rfc8446bis], and; 
> [RFC9325] apply here as well.
> 
> __NEW__
> The Security Considerations of PCEP [RFC5440], [RFC8231], [RFC8281], and 
> [RFC8283]; TLS 1.2 [RFC5246]; TLS 1.3 [I-D.ietf-tls-rfc8446bis], and; 
> [RFC9325] apply to this document as well.
> 
> I am not sure that the second paragraph should be added or it will be better 
> to add into the introduction?
> 
> The rest looks good to me. 
> 
> Many thanks,
> Cheng
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pce  On Behalf Of julien.meu...@orange.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2023 11:10 AM
> To: pce@ietf.org
> Subject: [Pce] WGLC for draft-ietf-pce-pceps-tls13-01
> 
> Dear PCE WG,
> 
> This message starts a 2-week WG last call on
> draft-ietf-pce-pceps-tls13-01 [1]. Please, be express any comments you have 
> about this document using the PCE mailing list.
> 
> This WGLC will end on Wednesday 20th September 2023.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Julien
> 
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> [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pceps-tls13/
> 

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