[PD] SONIC ART ON PMS - BBC Radio Merseyside 95.8 - Part II
hello everbody, i am inviting you to share a sonic experience with me. Last sunday i repeated succesfully a radio experiment in collabouration with the PMS Radio Show on BBC Radio Merseyside, one of Radio Merseyside's most popular radio shows. It consisted of sampling and remixing a radio program and then broadcasting this remix on this very radio program.. so its creating a sound piece from broadcast pieces and make this piece same of the source of the piece.. unique in the english broadcast history. you can listen to the show on http://www.bbc.co.uk/liverpool/local_radio/index.shtml. there you go to listen again and then chose to listen to PMS.. it might be of interest as well, that this was done mainly using Free open source software, namely Pure Data and Jack OSX... enjoy and thanks for your time : ) see you, hear you, read you.. alexandre -- alexandre r. decoupigny -- alexandre r. decoupigny ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Gem: can't load library
marius schebella wrote: yup, still no luck with Gem here... when compiling cvs Gem on the machine with the Radeon X300 card, I got rid of the glDeleteProgramsNV error. but I can not play any movies. Pd either crashed or showed only one color. I downgraded ubuntu to libgl1-mesa 6.4 (before it was 6.5). also no glDeleteProgramsNV problem, but no movies ( I test with the examples patch from the help.) at least Pd does not crash... So I am back to the debian package of Gem (v 0.90) which does not make problems. iohannes, what do you want to know from me to locate that problem? with ...Gem/04.pix/05.film.pd I get the following console output: pix_film:: quicktime support pix_film:: libmpeg3 support pix_film:: libaviplay support pix_film:: libmpeg support GEM: Start rendering GL: invalid value [pix_filmNEW]: opening /usr/local/lib/pd//doc/examples/Gem/04.pix/../data/anim-1.mov with format 1908 [pix_filmNEW]: ... [pix_filmNEW]: ... [pix_filmNEW]: loaded file: /usr/local/lib/pd//doc/examples/Gem/04.pix/../data/anim-1.mov with 90 frames (256x256) at 30.00 fps but the texture is not rendered correctly. The whole cube is brownish. marius. you could try to change whether rectangle-texturing is used by sending a [mode 0/1( message to [pix_texture] (or [pix_movie]). tell us whether it works. and which drivers you are using (i guess you yould run the X300 with fglrx and radeon and ati and vesa) and please send the output of glxinfo (_without_ the long list of visual modes) mfg.asdr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] nightly builds on intel mac
hi list i have an intel mac and tried to install the nightly build (Pd-0-1.39.2-extended-2006-12-05-macosx104-i386.dmg) whenever i start the app it doesn't run. I only see its icon jumping once or twice in the dock has it occurred to anyone? how can I solve it? thks___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] nightly builds on intel mac
hi list i have an intel mac and tried to install the nightly build (Pd-0-1.39.2-extended-2006-12-05-macosx104-i386.dmg) whenever i start the app it doesn't run. I only see its icon jumping once or twice in the dock has it occurred to anyone? how can I solve it? thks___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Gem: can't load library
On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 19:48 -0500, marius schebella wrote: yup, still no luck with Gem here... when compiling cvs Gem on the machine with the Radeon X300 card, I got rid of the glDeleteProgramsNV error. but I can not play any movies. Pd either crashed or showed only one color. do you have any other libs loaded besides Gem? i'd like to know, which. i had a handfull of problems with gem before and it turned out that these problems were conflicts between gem and other libs (pidip, gridflow, 3dp and maybe some others). when testing gem, try first to load it alone, with no other libs loaded. it also seemed to me, that the order of how the libs are loaded has some effect, whether gem works correctly or not. I downgraded ubuntu to libgl1-mesa 6.4 (before it was 6.5). also no glDeleteProgramsNV problem, but no movies ( I test with the examples patch from the help.) at least Pd does not crash... So I am back to the debian package of Gem (v 0.90) which does not make problems. iohannes, what do you want to know from me to locate that problem? with ...Gem/04.pix/05.film.pd I get the following console output: pix_film:: quicktime support pix_film:: libmpeg3 support pix_film:: libaviplay support pix_film:: libmpeg support GEM: Start rendering GL: invalid value [pix_filmNEW]: opening /usr/local/lib/pd//doc/examples/Gem/04.pix/../data/anim-1.mov with format 1908 [pix_filmNEW]: ... [pix_filmNEW]: ... [pix_filmNEW]: loaded file: /usr/local/lib/pd//doc/examples/Gem/04.pix/../data/anim-1.mov with 90 frames (256x256) at 30.00 fps but the texture is not rendered correctly. The whole cube is brownish. marius. this might be not a problem of [pix_film] or [pix_image], but of [pix_texture]. send a message [mode 0( to it, then the texture should be applied as expected. roman 2006/12/5, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Dec 5, 2006, at 4:01 PM, chris clepper wrote: On 12/5/06, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you are saying that they removed NV compatibility from in mesa when going from 6.4 to 6.5? This is just one specific extension for Nvidia specific shaders. I don't know if anyone is using those shaders, but we could probably get by only with the ARB spec support. We are downgrading to mesa 6.4 because we know it works there. We also tried compiling against the 6.5 version. It loaded, but had other issues. Actually, its the same bug that was reported for the autobuilds on Mac/Intel. The video was playing but it was like it was only playing one pixel of the whole video, spread out over the whole area that was being textured. This was with the examples/Gem/4.pix/05.movie.pd .hc http://at.or.at/hans/ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] hid/linux: event permission
On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 09:22 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Basically, you can either change the perms of the devices, or add your user to the root group. do i read correctly that you are proposing to add your user to the root group? i would rather change the group of /dev/input/event* via /etc/udev/rules.d/ (and add myself to this group). hi IOhannes, hi list this sounds so easy, but it is not, at least for me. although this might be off-topic, i'd like to ask the list, how to do this step-by-step, since everyone, who uses [hid] on a linux-box, is confronted with that question. the ugly solution i am using for now, is to change the permissions manually each time i boot the computer and want to use a joystick. thanks for any suggestions roman ___ Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] hid/linux: event permission with udev
Roman Haefeli wrote: this sounds so easy, but it is not, at least for me. although this might be off-topic, i'd like to ask the list, how to do this step-by-step, since everyone, who uses [hid] on a linux-box, is confronted with that question. the ugly solution i am using for now, is to change the permissions manually each time i boot the computer and want to use a joystick. adding this line to /etc/udev/permissions.rules (on a debian system) KERNEL==event[0-9]*, MODE=0664, GROUP=games should give you rw-rw-r permissions (and the group will be set to games) choose your own group and mode. this is something you i have guessed by just looking at the /etc/udev/ directory and the contents of some files therein. i do not doubt that there is lot of information available in the net. mfgadr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] hid/linux: event permission
Roman Haefeli wrote: On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 09:22 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Basically, you can either change the perms of the devices, or add your user to the root group. do i read correctly that you are proposing to add your user to the root group? i would rather change the group of /dev/input/event* via /etc/udev/rules.d/ (and add myself to this group). hi IOhannes, hi list this sounds so easy, but it is not, at least for me. although this might be off-topic, i'd like to ask the list, how to do this step-by-step, since everyone, who uses [hid] on a linux-box, is confronted with that question. the ugly solution i am using for now, is to change the permissions manually each time i boot the computer and want to use a joystick. thanks for any suggestions roman In my opinion, this is the cleanest way to do it: - First add your account to the 'audio' group: edit /etc/group and find the line that starts with 'audio'. Add your account after the colons. For instance In my '/etc/group' have: audio::17:cesarem The group number could be different. - Then edit /etc/udev/rules.d/udev.rules: Find the line that starts with ' KERNEL=event*, '. Change the permissions as 0660 and add the 'audio' group. Here I have: KERNEL=event*,NAME=input/%k, MODE=0660, GROUP=audio Ciao, c. ___ Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://www.cesaremarilungo.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] nightly builds on intel mac
That one is broken, try 2006-12-06 .hc On Dec 6, 2006, at 6:34 AM, Miguel Cardoso wrote: hi list i have an intel mac and tried to install the nightly build (Pd-0-1.39.2-extended-2006-12-05-macosx104-i386.dmg) whenever i start the app it doesn't run. I only see its icon jumping once or twice in the dock has it occurred to anyone? how can I solve it? thks ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish.-William Carlos Williams ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pix_record mixed pixes
dear list, I recently tried out pix_record object of Gem, running pd-39.2-extended for osx. It worked pretty fine but i could not record anything else than a video connected to a unique gemhead. i tried to mix several pixes (like moving rectangles with alpha layer) with the video using pix_mix but when recording the visual output i only get the video (without the applied 'transformations'). is that an expected behaviour? best, vincent ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] hid/linux: event permission
Cesare Marilungo wrote: - First add your account to the 'audio' group: edit /etc/group and find the line that starts with 'audio'. Add your account after the colons. For instance In my '/etc/group' have: better use adduser user group (e.g. adduser cesarem audio). this way you have less chance to fuck up your /etc/group file. if you really MUST edit /etc/group, /etc/passwd and their shadowy friends by hand, use specialised tools, such as vipw [-s] and vigr [-s]. mfga.dr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pix_record mixed pixes
vincent Rioux wrote: dear list, I recently tried out pix_record object of Gem, running pd-39.2-extended for osx. It worked pretty fine but i could not record anything else than a video connected to a unique gemhead. i tried to mix several pixes (like moving rectangles with alpha layer) with the video using pix_mix but when recording the visual output i only get the video (without the applied 'transformations'). is that an expected behaviour? i am not sure whether i fully understand what you mean. [pix_record] will _only_ record pixes. (e.g. you have to transform your rectangles into pix-domain; just using [rectangle] won't do) due to the signal-flow nature of pix-processing you have to add [pix_record] after all pix-processing objects you want to have an effect on the recorded video. e.g. [pix_video] | [pix_gain] | [pix_record] | [pix_invert] will record a video with [pix_gain] applied, but [pix_invert] is NOT applied. mfga-dr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] More Text Strangeness
Thanks for advice, I will dig into PyText. Have used it some before but remember getting stuck. Any newbie intro would be appreciated. Still doesnt explain how the same character can be displayed inside PD with two different results in GEM. Timon. On 5 Dec 2006, at 17:51, Georg Holzmann wrote: Hallo! So, can someone explain how I can have the same character showing in the symbol box but not rendering out the same value into the [text3d] object (å from a text file, and å typed directly into the object). If this is a little confusing Id be happy to explain more. Im very confused. You can make your text-processing e.g. in python (and open the text files there - so they can be UTF-8). Then you use the pyext external, give out the symbol with your non ASCII characters and directly set the text in [text3d] ... That's the way it worked for me, LG Georg Hi, Im doing this typographic project using Gem. I need to have a expanded number of characters - exceeding the usual ASCII. Ran into some problems, first the right encoding of text file - which had to be UTF-8 formatted and second, a properly mapped OTF font (which is not straight forward when you convert from a font suitcase). Now I can get all characters needed into pd. But here is the strangeness. I parse text using the Scaninavian characters æ ø å ü. It goes from the [textfile], via [L2S] into a symbol object. Here I can double check Im getting the right characters. So all god, and I parse it into [text3d] object. What I read in Gem window is a combination of characters; instead of character å I get À¥ . I thought this could have to do with the font not being formatted correctly, but when I type the same character into the symbol box I get å - the right scandinavian character displaying properly in the Gem window. So, can someone explain how I can have the same character showing in the symbol box but not rendering out the same value into the [text3d] object (å from a text file, and å typed directly into the object). If this is a little confusing Id be happy to explain more. Im very confused. Thanks, Timon ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] hid/linux: event permission with udev
hi IOhannes On Wed, 2006-12-06 at 15:01 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Roman Haefeli wrote: this sounds so easy, but it is not, at least for me. although this might be off-topic, i'd like to ask the list, how to do this step-by-step, since everyone, who uses [hid] on a linux-box, is confronted with that question. the ugly solution i am using for now, is to change the permissions manually each time i boot the computer and want to use a joystick. adding this line to /etc/udev/permissions.rules (on a debian system) KERNEL==event[0-9]*, MODE=0664, GROUP=games thank you very much for providing this information. should give you rw-rw-r permissions (and the group will be set to games) choose your own group and mode. this is something you i have guessed by just looking at the /etc/udev/ directory and the contents of some files therein. i do not doubt that there is lot of information available in the net. yes, there is, maybe to much and too confusing for someone like me since this wasn't asked before in the list and at the same time it concerns so many people, i still believe it was a good choice to ask the list. why should so many people find that out themselves and possibly spend hours on that ( i admit i sometimes/often spend hours on rather *stupid* things like that), when this could be stated once forever in a thread containing the keywords 'hid' 'linux' 'event' 'permission' 'udev' in its subject? roman ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pix_record mixed pixes
On 12/6/06, Kyle Klipowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've never explored this object, but it sounds great! There's a way to capture openGL to pix objects right? So pix_record could be used to record an entire GEM session to a video file? Put pix_snap in front of pix_record. Don't expect a high framerate capture for large gemwins though. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] hid/linux: event permission
IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Cesare Marilungo wrote: - First add your account to the 'audio' group: edit /etc/group and find the line that starts with 'audio'. Add your account after the colons. For instance In my '/etc/group' have: better use adduser user group (e.g. adduser cesarem audio). this way you have less chance to fuck up your /etc/group file. Yes, you're right. But /etc/group is just a plain text without encrypted data, and editing it with vi or whatever gives the very same result. It's easier to fuck up udev.rules, though. c. if you really MUST edit /etc/group, /etc/passwd and their shadowy friends by hand, use specialised tools, such as vipw [-s] and vigr [-s]. mfga.dr IOhannes -- http://www.cesaremarilungo.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] nightly builds on intel mac
On 12/6/06, Miguel Cardoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thks I tried today's version and it starts up but it crashes the whole system... is there any final extended version that works native on intel? A kernel panic? Does the screen go grey and tell you to restart? The crash logs for pd are in your home Library folder. Look in ~/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] GEM : pix_image / GL: insufficient memory
Hi list, I have some trouble with objects pix_image and pix_multiimage in GEM. I want to load image(s), pix_image then pix_texture then rectangle... No problem to load images but when i turn rendering ON, images are NOT displayed and i have the error message : GL : insufficient memory which is printed for each frame. I think it's not a problem with my patch since the same patch is running well on an other machine. Machine that does NOT SUPPORT my patch : Windows XP PRO SP2 / pd 0.39 extended test4 / NVIDIA driver updated yesterday The other machine that SUPPORT my pach : Windows XP PRO SP1 / pd 0.39 extended test4 / NVIDIA driver updated yesterday Thanks for helping /romain V ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] how do I build plugin~ from the CVS repo?
On Dec 6, 2006, at 9:15 AM, Jamie Bullock wrote: Hi Hans, On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 11:14 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: FYI, I just enabled the building of [plugin~] on Mac OS X. So it should be included in nightly builds and upcoming test and final releases. Any chance of getting [dssi~] included in this? It has an additional dependency on the liblo library, but it builds and works fine on both linux and Mac OS (powerpc and intel). The advantages of [dssi~] over [plugin~] are 1. It supports DSSI plugins as well as LADSPA 2. It can host multiple plugin instances within a single [dssi~] instance e.g. [dssi~ sine_faaa 20] for 20 sine oscillators. It doesn't do VST but other than that the functionality of plugin~ is a subset of the functionality of dssi~. Sure, if you do the work. I think the issue was that the DSSI code would have to be maintained in the pure-data CVS, which some people strongly protested. DSSI isn't in Fink. In order for it to be supported in the auto-builds and Pd-extended packages on Mac OS X, the code either needs to be in CVS or Fink, or included in the OS. You could just make a libdir package, then people could use DSSI with plain pd too (with the libdir external). .hc Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a more direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in practice, it can change entire economies. - Amy Smith ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Gem: can't load library
On Dec 6, 2006, at 4:44 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: So you are saying that they removed NV compatibility from in mesa when going from 6.4 to 6.5? no. i am saying that it is not my business to keep track of what mesa (or any other library used) changes between their upgrades. it is my business to detect what the currently installed library is capable of. when mesa-6.4 supports glProgramDeleteNV() and mesa-6.5 does not, feel free to submit a bug-report to mesa. i do not care! The optimization stuff you guys have done is definitely very important. It would also be excellent if you would help produce a binary distro that worked on as many machines as possible, so that we have more people using Gem, and have to spend less time answering annoying questions like these. .hc As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously. - Benjamin Franklin ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] sndfiler on MACOSx and Ubuntu
On Wed, 2006-12-06 at 14:53 -0300, glerm soares wrote: I also tried to compile sndfiler again, from CVS...I got the threadlib but for sndfiler i miss a header called m_fifo.h that I couldn'n locate in my machine. where do I find it? m_fifo.h is a file, needed for the lockfree communication with the sndfiler helper thread, which is part of the lockfree threadsafe idle-callback feature of devel. tim -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 96771783 http://www.mokabar.tk Cheat your landlord if you can and must, but do not try to shortchange the Muse. It cannot be done. You can't fake quality any more than you can fake a good meal. William S. Burroughs signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] USING PICTURES FROM THE INTERNET
In Gem, try [pix_image]. .hc On Dec 6, 2006, at 11:31 AM, aurélien Bourdier wrote: Hello, I would like to make a diaporama using pictures from internet, for example directly from google images... The best thing would be the ability to define the research of pictures... I really don't know which objects i can use on the internet point of the pd patch (connection to the site, reaserach on the site, download of pictures ) Thanks to help me on this point... _ Découvrez le blog Eragon sur Windows Live Spaces! http://eragon- heroic-fantasy.spaces.live.com/ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.- Eldridge Cleaver ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Gem: can't load library
On 12/6/06, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc. OpenGL renderer string: RADEON X300/X550 Series Generic OpenGL version string: 2.0.5814 (8.25.18) OpenGL extensions: GL_EXT_texture_rectangle, This driver supports both 2D and rectangle textures. The hardware does as well. If mode 1 does not work in GEM then that looks like a driver bug to me. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] sndfiler on MACOSx and Ubuntu
2006/12/6, Georg Holzmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hallo! in both cases the object seems to load in pd but when i try to load an ogg file i got the message: error: /samples/sample.ogg: no such array ...you might be able to track this down from the Find menu (and click in Find menu got blank results hm - I think you exchanged the arguments (table and sample), because it tries to find an array which is called like your sample ... no. I'm using the help example that came with the binaries [bang] | [openpanel] | [read -resize $1 array1] | [sndfiler] I also tried to compile sndfiler again, from CVS...I got the threadlib but for sndfiler i miss a header called m_fifo.h that I couldn'n locate in my machine. where do I find it? yes, it's in the source of threadlib, so you have to adjust the path in the makefile of sndfile to point to this position ... no. this header isn't there. Not in the site neither in CVS. check this. thanx glerm LG Georg -- _gLeRM SoAreS...: baixem o album do matema 17mp3 num pacote-- http://www.organismo.art.br/matema ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] sndfiler on MACOSx and Ubuntu
Hallo! no. I'm using the help example that came with the binaries [bang] | [openpanel] | [read -resize $1 array1] | [sndfiler] Ah - I think I know whats the problem: in an earlier version of [sndfiler] the arguments were in a different order - so I guess you still have the old binary ! So you should delete all the old help-files and binaries and then install those from http://grh.mur.at/software/sndfiler.html ... LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] nightly builds on intel mac
hello Hans Im currently using your extended test4, but Id like to use an intel version. I ran pd throught the terminal and got this error: machine:~ machine$ /Applications/Pd-0.39.2-extended-2006-12-06.app/ Contents/Resources/bin/pd -stderr sh: line 1: /Applications/Wish.app/Contents/MacOS/Wish: No such file or directory Went looking for with, but can only find early versions of it (none for intel) tcl/tk 8.4.11 for jaguar at http://simulistics.com/tcltk/ should i install it? thanks On Dec 6, 2006, at 8:03 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Try opening up the /Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app and running this in the Terminal window. Then copy and paste the text from that Window and respond to this thread with it /Applications/Pd-0.39.2-extended-2006-12-06.app/Contents/Resources/ bin/pd -stderr Some people have had good luck with test4: http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers-0.39.2-extended-test4.html .hc On Dec 6, 2006, at 11:03 AM, Miguel Cardoso wrote: Thks I tried today's version and it starts up but it crashes the whole system... is there any final extended version that works native on intel? On Dec 6, 2006, at 1:22 PM, Ilja Dmitricenko wrote: On Wed, 2006-12-06 at 11:34 +, Miguel Cardoso wrote: hi list i have an intel mac and tried to install the nightly build (Pd-0-1.39.2-extended-2006-12-05-macosx104-i386.dmg) whenever i start the app it doesn't run. I only see its icon jumping once or twice in the dock has it occurred to anyone? how can I solve it? you need to see the output in the terminal in osx it's easy - just open the terminal and drop the icon on it , probably press ^J or 'return' on the keyboard :~ that will tell you why the app doesnt start maybe you'r missin' some libs or something else, or may be there is a sort of segfault. try next day's build if you brave, but those are for bug hunters, while you don't appeare to b 1 of 'em. just the package which is marked stable. good luk! thks ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list -- my paper tape signature: ]I[ -y | o oo.o o| | o o. o| | o oo. oo| | o . | | o o.o o| | . o| |o. o | my keyserver and PGP fingerprint: http://keyserver.noreply.org:11371/ A598 6F85 1631 33A4 1BC0 F600 3758 4CA5 3A6A 4FAA ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list -- -- If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it.- Thomas Jefferson ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] nightly builds on intel mac
This one works for me: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2006-12-06/ .hc On Dec 6, 2006, at 3:42 PM, Miguel Cardoso wrote: hello Hans Im currently using your extended test4, but Id like to use an intel version. I ran pd throught the terminal and got this error: machine:~ machine$ /Applications/Pd-0.39.2-extended-2006-12-06.app/ Contents/Resources/bin/pd -stderr sh: line 1: /Applications/Wish.app/Contents/MacOS/Wish: No such file or directory Went looking for with, but can only find early versions of it (none for intel) tcl/tk 8.4.11 for jaguar at http://simulistics.com/tcltk/ should i install it? thanks On Dec 6, 2006, at 8:03 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Try opening up the /Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app and running this in the Terminal window. Then copy and paste the text from that Window and respond to this thread with it /Applications/Pd-0.39.2-extended-2006-12-06.app/Contents/Resources/ bin/pd -stderr Some people have had good luck with test4: http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers-0.39.2-extended-test4.html .hc On Dec 6, 2006, at 11:03 AM, Miguel Cardoso wrote: Thks I tried today's version and it starts up but it crashes the whole system... is there any final extended version that works native on intel? On Dec 6, 2006, at 1:22 PM, Ilja Dmitricenko wrote: On Wed, 2006-12-06 at 11:34 +, Miguel Cardoso wrote: hi list i have an intel mac and tried to install the nightly build (Pd-0-1.39.2-extended-2006-12-05-macosx104-i386.dmg) whenever i start the app it doesn't run. I only see its icon jumping once or twice in the dock has it occurred to anyone? how can I solve it? you need to see the output in the terminal in osx it's easy - just open the terminal and drop the icon on it , probably press ^J or 'return' on the keyboard :~ that will tell you why the app doesnt start maybe you'r missin' some libs or something else, or may be there is a sort of segfault. try next day's build if you brave, but those are for bug hunters, while you don't appeare to b 1 of 'em. just the package which is marked stable. good luk! thks ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http:// lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- my paper tape signature: ]I[ -y | o oo.o o| | o o. o| | o oo. oo| | o . | | o o.o o| | . o| |o. o | my keyserver and PGP fingerprint: http://keyserver.noreply.org:11371/ A598 6F85 1631 33A4 1BC0 F600 3758 4CA5 3A6A 4FAA ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list - --- If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it.- Thomas Jefferson As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously. - Benjamin Franklin ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Gem: can't load library
On Dec 6, 2006, at 3:04 PM, chris clepper wrote: On 12/6/06, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc. OpenGL renderer string: RADEON X300/X550 Series Generic OpenGL version string: 2.0.5814 (8.25.18) OpenGL extensions: GL_EXT_texture_rectangle, This driver supports both 2D and rectangle textures. The hardware does as well. If mode 1 does not work in GEM then that looks like a driver bug to me. It seems to be a bug in Gem because mode 1 works fine after entering mode 0. Its just when the patch starts up that it doesn't work. After sending a [mode 0(, then both [mode 1( and [mode 0( work. .hc Using ReBirth is like trying to play an 808 with a long stick.- David Zicarelli ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] nightly builds on intel mac
You machine already has Wish and Tcl/Tk. Look in /System/Library/Frameworks/ On 12/6/06, Miguel Cardoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello Hans Im currently using your extended test4, but Id like to use an intel version. I ran pd throught the terminal and got this error: machine:~ machine$ /Applications/Pd-0.39.2-extended-2006-12-06.app/ Contents/Resources/bin/pd -stderr sh: line 1: /Applications/Wish.app/Contents/MacOS/Wish: No such file or directory Went looking for with, but can only find early versions of it (none for intel) tcl/tk 8.4.11 for jaguar at http://simulistics.com/tcltk/ should i install it? thanks On Dec 6, 2006, at 8:03 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Try opening up the /Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app and running this in the Terminal window. Then copy and paste the text from that Window and respond to this thread with it /Applications/Pd-0.39.2-extended-2006-12-06.app/Contents/Resources/ bin/pd -stderr Some people have had good luck with test4: http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers-0.39.2-extended-test4.html .hc On Dec 6, 2006, at 11:03 AM, Miguel Cardoso wrote: Thks I tried today's version and it starts up but it crashes the whole system... is there any final extended version that works native on intel? On Dec 6, 2006, at 1:22 PM, Ilja Dmitricenko wrote: On Wed, 2006-12-06 at 11:34 +, Miguel Cardoso wrote: hi list i have an intel mac and tried to install the nightly build (Pd-0-1.39.2-extended-2006-12-05-macosx104-i386.dmg) whenever i start the app it doesn't run. I only see its icon jumping once or twice in the dock has it occurred to anyone? how can I solve it? you need to see the output in the terminal in osx it's easy - just open the terminal and drop the icon on it , probably press ^J or 'return' on the keyboard :~ that will tell you why the app doesnt start maybe you'r missin' some libs or something else, or may be there is a sort of segfault. try next day's build if you brave, but those are for bug hunters, while you don't appeare to b 1 of 'em. just the package which is marked stable. good luk! thks ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list -- my paper tape signature: ]I[ -y | o oo.o o| | o o. o| | o oo. oo| | o . | | o o.o o| | . o| |o. o | my keyserver and PGP fingerprint: http://keyserver.noreply.org:11371/ A598 6F85 1631 33A4 1BC0 F600 3758 4CA5 3A6A 4FAA ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list -- -- If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it.- Thomas Jefferson ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Gem: can't load library
On Dec 6, 2006, at 4:02 PM, chris clepper wrote: On 12/6/06, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to be a bug in Gem because mode 1 works fine after entering mode 0. Its just when the patch starts up that it doesn't work. After sending a [mode 0(, then both [mode 1( and [mode 0( work. Here's the problem: You build a binary where the GL driver you build against tells you that it supports rectangle textures. Then when you run the binary using that same GL driver the texturing is not right. Where is the bug? [mode 1( works fine after you send a [mode 0(. So it seems to be some kind of init thing. The first time when [pix_texture] loads, it defaults to mode 1, but doesn't work properly. Then I send a [mode 0 ( message, and it works. Now, I send a [mode 1( message, and it still works. From here on out, both [mode 0( and [mode 1( work. Or are you saying that you cannot switch back to [mode 1( once you switch to [mode 0(? The message only takes effect the first time you send it? .hc http://at.or.at/hans/ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Gem: can't load library
Hi, I believe this is a known bug, Chris Clepper had helped me fix this problem actually with GEM. I just made a some simple [pixTextureHack] that loadbangs the mode stuff so everything will work, but I put it in manually wherever I had a pix_texture. Only problem was, I forgot about it and got really confused for half an hour when I was mapping some new textures the other day and nothing worked. Now I've decided, even better would be to wrap the pix_texture so that whenever I create the object, the loadbang is sent without me having to remember. ~David On 12/6/06, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 6, 2006, at 3:04 PM, chris clepper wrote: On 12/6/06, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc. OpenGL renderer string: RADEON X300/X550 Series Generic OpenGL version string: 2.0.5814 (8.25.18) OpenGL extensions: GL_EXT_texture_rectangle, This driver supports both 2D and rectangle textures. The hardware does as well. If mode 1 does not work in GEM then that looks like a driver bug to me. It seems to be a bug in Gem because mode 1 works fine after entering mode 0. Its just when the patch starts up that it doesn't work. After sending a [mode 0(, then both [mode 1( and [mode 0( work. .hc Using ReBirth is like trying to play an 808 with a long stick.-David Zicarelli ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Soft synths using pd
And thre's 7.stuff-synth-1.poly.synth.pd, a good example of polyphony allocation along with voice parameters. On Tue, 5 Dec 2006 22:23:14 -0500 Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is some FM stuff included in Help-Browser-3.audio.examples .hc On Dec 5, 2006, at 8:33 AM, Ismael Valladolid Torres wrote: Any links to more or less simple soft synths developed using puredata by people from this list? I am interested in learning how to create my own. Thanks in advance. Cordially, Ismael -- Ismael Valladolid Torres http://lamediahostia.blogspot.com/ m. +34679156321 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ivalladt j. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it.- Thomas Jefferson ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Gem: can't load library
On 12/6/06, David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I believe this is a known bug, Chris Clepper had helped me fix this problem actually with GEM. It is sort of a known 'bug'. ATI and Nvidia hardware on OSX and Windows do not have this 'bug' and I don't think it is happening with Nvidia's Linux driver although I haven't personally tested it. So the highest performing configurations work just fine. I don't have any hardware that has this 'bug' so what can I do? ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] nightly builds on intel mac
hallo hans, this one is at the least the first i download that gets really started. however it's impossible to open a new empty patcher or to load any patcher. there aren't any error messages, the main windows is there and it says GEM has been loaded. but no reaction to most of the menu items (about works, preferences don't work, file new doesn't work, file open doesn't work, file message works, file quit doesn't work, help html + browser work). ciao, -sciss- Am 06.12.2006 um 21:58 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: This one works for me: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2006-12-06/ .hc ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] nightly builds on intel macs
And which version of tcl tk should i use? thks ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] nightly builds on intel macs
On Wed, 6 Dec 2006, Miguel Cardoso wrote: And which version of tcl tk should i use? I can't recommend anything else than a very recent 8.5a. Not to be a version snob, just that Tcl/Tk has gone a long way since the so-called stable release, and James Tittle told me, that the greatest improvements on the OSX side have happened *this* autumn. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801 - http://artengine.ca/matju | Freelance Digital Arts Engineer, Montréal QC Canada___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] USING PICTURES FROM THE INTERNET
On Thu, 2006-12-07 at 10:29 +, padawan12 wrote: Btw, is there a technique anyone knows to use an invisible canvas or something else to pick up mouse clicks within an image? create first a hslider with the same dimensions as the image and set the sendsymbol, then place [image your pix] over it, so that only the image is visible. now you can receive mouseclicks with [r sendsymbol]. is that what you are looking for? roman ___ Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Gem: can't load library
On 12/6/06, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to be a bug in Gem because mode 1 works fine after entering mode 0. Its just when the patch starts up that it doesn't work. After sending a [mode 0(, then both [mode 1( and [mode 0( work. Here's the problem: You build a binary where the GL driver you build against tells you that it supports rectangle textures. Then when you run the binary using that same GL driver the texturing is not right. Where is the bug? ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] USING PICTURES FROM THE INTERNET
In the abstract, I would think you might be able to use [shell] which would in turn run wget or curl to send the proper HTML POST data to Google images (or another site) for example, then you can just use the wget or curl program to download the images to a local folder which could be then loaded using [pix_image] to paint on a [rectangle] or some such. Just an idea. I might have a crack at this later. ./d5 On Dec 6, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: In Gem, try [pix_image]. .hc On Dec 6, 2006, at 11:31 AM, aurélien Bourdier wrote: Hello, I would like to make a diaporama using pictures from internet, for example directly from google images... The best thing would be the ability to define the research of pictures... I really don't know which objects i can use on the internet point of the pd patch (connection to the site, reaserach on the site, download of pictures ) Thanks to help me on this point... ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] nightly builds on intel macs
The built-in one. It's already there, you don't need to install it. The nightly builds will ignore anything you install anyway. .hc On Dec 6, 2006, at 5:12 PM, Miguel Cardoso wrote: And which version of tcl tk should i use? thks ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] iemlib trouble
Hi all: I just built iemlib from cvs (Ubuntu edgy, x86, Pd version 0.41.0-test03 from cvs) and it compiles without an error. But something funny happens when Pd tries to load the libs. Here's what the console is telling me: /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/iemlib1.pd_linux: /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/iemlib1.pd_linux: undefined symbol: __stack_chk_fail_local iemlib1: can't load library /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/iemlib2.pd_linux: /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/iemlib2.pd_linux: undefined symbol: __stack_chk_fail_local iemlib2: can't load library /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/iem_mp3.pd_linux: /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/iem_mp3.pd_linux: undefined symbol: __stack_chk_fail_local iem_mp3: can't load library iem_t3_lib (R-1.16) library loaded! (c) Gerhard Eckel, Thomas Musil 05.2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] iem KUG Graz Austria Any clues on how I can make this work? I need something to work with mp3s. Cheers, Patrick -- ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
