Re: [PD] [PD-dev] What goes on during dsp ticks?
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Thomas Grill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Am 14.06.2008 um 18:37 schrieb PSPunch:
> That's definitely bad practice.
> Instead of that you can do the allocation in the "dsp" callback, that's
> where you add your dsp processing to the signal chain. This callback will be
> called anytime when either the block size or sample rate changes or when the
> signal graph is rebuilt.
What is the dsp callback? This is new to me, too.
I had a different approach when it comes to building static arrays
that depend on block size. I used three variables in the struct,
x->n, x->array_pointer, and x->is_new_or_resized
Then, example use in perform routine:
if (x->n != n)
x->is_new_or_resized=1;
if (x->is_new_or_resized)
{
x->is_new_or_resized=0;
if (x->array_pointer != NULL)
free(x->array_pointer);
malloc(x->array_pointer, n);
x->n=n;
}
So, you can see the problem. It would be useful to know another way.
Chuck
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Re: [PD] [PD-dev] What goes on during dsp ticks?
Am 14.06.2008 um 18:37 schrieb PSPunch: So, I've made a cache to copy the original signal to before processing. Because the block size may change anytime, I am malloc & freeing a cache the size of the block on each DSP cycle. I hear that malloc is a "relatively" expensive task. Is it bad practice to run this each cycle, or is a kilobyte or two not a bid deal? That's definitely bad practice. Instead of that you can do the allocation in the "dsp" callback, that's where you add your dsp processing to the signal chain. This callback will be called anytime when either the block size or sample rate changes or when the signal graph is rebuilt. gr~~~ smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Teaching Pd to Children
Kyle Klipowicz wrote: > Hello Listers~ > > I'm teaching a 1 month Summer school session for K-8 grade students and > would like to include Pd for a mathematics learning tool. I am wondering if > anyone else has done something similar, or has any links to DSP/math related > materials that would be suitable for this age group. Also, if anyone is > sharing their lesson plans for Pd beginners, I would love to see something > that I might be able to adapt for my students. > > Any ideas would be greatly appreciated, as kids often hate Summer school and > I want to make this a fun activity for them. Make sure to tackle number ranges (mapping), like: Moving one slider up will make another one go down, but only half as far, etc... > > ~Kyle > > > > > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
I noticed that in the latest pd-extended on ubuntu, the arrow doesn't change direction when you mouse over a GUI object that is editable. Why so? I found it useful.. -rich On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:59 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and > user experience much more fluid and easy. There is a new visual look > that was designed to make patches more readable. Additionally, lots > of things have been tweaked to make Pd behave more like a normal app. > There has already been a lot of testing on these builds, so it is > getting quite close to a final version. (Debian/PowerPC is missing > now but will come later) > > http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html > > Here is a partial changelog: > > - next visual appearance designed for readability (it can run slower > on machines < 1 GHz) > > - default locations for user-installed externals, helpfiles, etc. > GNU/Linux: /usr/share/pd and ~/pd > Mac OS X: /Library/Pd and ~/Library/Pd > Windows: %ProgramFiles%/Common Files/Pd and %UserProfile%/ > Application Data/Pd > > - lots of standard key bindings added: >Enter/Return for OK >Escape for Cancel >Ctrl/Cmd-W closes all windows >on Mac OS X, Cmd-` cycles thru open windows >on Mac OS X, Cmd-m minimizes windows >Ctrl/Cmd-R raises/lowers Pd window >Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-R shrinks/grows Pd window >Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-L clears Pd window's text console >Ctrl/Cmd-B opens the Help Browser > > - you can now use "~" in all paths to mean home folder, and on > Windows you can use environment variables, lie %UserProfile% in paths > > - cut/copy/paste now work directly into text boxes on all platforms > > - [declare] and [import] now sorted out for loading, much work needs > to be done before there namespace support is complete > > - "File -> Save As" defaults to the Home folder (~/) > > - fixed Cut/Copy/Paste for the Pd window's console > > - included pgp_opengl aka 3dp on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X > > KNOWN BUGS > > - check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs > > - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup > preferences > > - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd > > - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying > to load it > > > .hc > > > > > I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and > during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man > for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General > Smedley Butler > > > > ___ > Pd-announce mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Place pdp render windows in concrete positions
Lluis Gomez i Bigorda, Sergi Lario Loyo, and I have been working on bits of PDP. Yves Degoyon is working sometimes on PiDiP. Feel free to add feature requests and bug reports to the SourceForge trackers. .hc On Jun 11, 2008, at 11:14 PM, Javier Garcia wrote: I wrote: > One more question: who is administrating now pdp to send/ask for modifications of pdp?, pdp seems stopped here: http://zwizwa.be/pd/ pdp/ Anyone knows this? Bye www.myspace.com/vjgarff From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; pd-list@iem.at Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:29:58 +0200 Subject: Re: [PD] Place pdp render windows in concrete positions acracia wrote: > in the pdp_xv or pdp_glx windows you can use the postdim message > > > example patch attached Thanks!, i didn't know those options for pdp_xv. Anyway, It doesn't have the option of removing the frame of the pdp windows. One more question: who is administrating now pdp to send/ask for modifications of pdp?, pdp seems stopped here: http://zwizwa.be/pd/ pdp/ Bye www.myspace.com/vjgarff > Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 16:42:13 +0200 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: pd-list@iem.at > Subject: Re: [PD] Place pdp render windows in concrete positions > > > I wrote: > > > >> I have a patch that opens 3 pdp render windows. Is it possible to open > > this windows in concrete positions of my screen when i open the patch? > > > > in the pdp_xv or pdp_glx windows you can use the postdim message > > > example patch attached > Sigue de cerca las últimas tendencias y lo que más rompe MSN Vídeo Sigue de cerca las últimas tendencias y lo que más rompe MSN Vídeo ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it.- Thomas Jefferson ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] vst~ in mac?
vst~ is only Windows, AFAIK. .hc On Jun 12, 2008, at 3:48 AM, Ricardo Dueñas Parada wrote: > Hi everyone, it's just a simple question. > > Anybody knows if there's some external-patch-anything to import > vst's in mac and/or linux? > > I know vst~, but it seems to work just in MSW. > > Thanks in advance. > > _Ricardo. > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended PPC autobuild & Jack OSX
That's up to IOhannes, I know little about it. .hc On Jun 11, 2008, at 3:42 PM, Si Mills wrote: > Hi Hans et al. > > I tried the RC1 test build of the latest Pd-extended. Will the Jack > problem be resolved in this version of do you know? > > many thanks for all the hard work everyone! > > > On 25 May 2008, at 21:24, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > >> >> Yeah, there are some jack issues under investigation, so please >> test things once there is something new to test. :) >> >> .hc >> >> On May 22, 2008, at 11:23 AM, Si Mills wrote: >> >>> I noticed the other day that when selecting to run in Jack mode >>> (with >>> Jack booted) the system becomes unusably sluggish. >>> >>> This happens in the PPC version of 0.40.3 -extended that I >>> downloaded >>> the other day from Autobuild and Jack osx 0.77. I haven't tried >>> one of >>> the latest builds. >>> >>> I'm adding this to the bug tracker >>> >>> thanks >>> >>> ___ >>> PD-list@iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ >>> listinfo/pd-list >> >> >> >> - >> --- >> >> Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a >> more direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in >> practice, it can change entire economies. - Amy Smith >> Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a more direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in practice, it can change entire economies. - Amy Smith ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
Check out externals/pdvjtools, I am here in Barcelona working with Sergi and Lluis on getting that library working smoothly. It should be included in the 0.42 builds. .hc On Jun 9, 2008, at 4:13 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When you do address PDP can you include pdp_freeframe and > pdp_frei0r into that? > I am not sure if i asked you before but these two would be awesome. > currently on Linux ppc ubuntu i get a greenish color over all of > the pixelizi0r plugin, but not on intel, and of course nothing on > osx since they no worky. > > i know this is a specific request but i just wanted to ask :-) > > pp > > > Hans-Christoph Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Thanks for the merging howto, looks useful. At this point, only bug >> fixes should be added to the release branch. Adding new code could >> likely further the delay the release while we wait for the bugs to >> settle. Right now PDP is sensitive to changes, so it would be best >> to leave it like it is for this release. >> >> The reason for the branch is to make it easier to make a stable >> release. It is only used during the final release cycle. Then it is >> back to "trunk" once the release is done. >> >> .hc >> >> On Jun 4, 2008, at 10:30 PM, Luke Iannini wrote: >> >>> Yo yves, >>> There is branches/pd-extended/v0-40 that produces the release, >>> you'll >>> have to merge over any changes. >>> I wrote a guide here if you need it >>> http://puredata.info/docs/developer/MergingHowto >>> >>> Cheers >>> Luke >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 8:36 AM, ydegoyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ola, sorry, why PiDiP version is 0.12.22 when i committed a 0.12.23 in the trunk? >>> isn't it produced from the trunk ? this is somewhat important for us to have the new pdp_v4l2 and pdp_ieee1394 for cameras thx, sevy Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the > GUI and > user experience much more fluid and easy. > > ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list >>> >>> ___ >>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ >>> listinfo/pd-list >> >> >> >> - >> --- >> >> >>http://at.or.at/hans/ >> >> >> >> ___ >> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ >> listinfo/pd-list > > -- > Patrick Pagano > Sound and Light Technologist > School of Theatre and Dance > University of Florida > http://at.or.at/hans/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pdp_ieee1394 ... couldn't create
On Jun 13, 2008, at 12:36 AM, ydegoyon wrote: ola, only result i found to this was your answer : http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2005-06/029137.html which - despite being a bit cryptic sounded negatively. Still, it is from 2005, so i was hoping that something happenned with firewire since then. there are two new pdp modules for cameras that have been committed 5 days ago or so : pdp_v4l2 and pdp_ieee1394 ( in pidip ), and you've been waiting 3 years and just look for them now! in fact, i believe in the surnatural! but just ask hans the right version, i can't tell. The 0.42 builds should have it included. Those are the builds from trunk of SVN. You could take the pidip.pd_linux and use it with another Pd-extended version if you want. .hc "It is convenient to imagine a power beyond us because that means we don't have to examine our own lives.", from "The Idols of Environmentalism", by Curtis White ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pduino-arduino trouble
he max we had a similar error here at the school in zürich http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-06/062973.html might be the bug in your pd-extended - a recent nightly builds might cure salutis olsen On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 5:49 AM, Max Neupert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > that could be it. but why is it doing that? > the comport object in the arduino abstraction says > > [comport $1 57600] so shouldn't the rate be fixed to 57600? why does > it sometimes connect with 115200? > > max > > Am 2008-06-13 um 18:54 schrieb Claude Heiland-Allen: > >> Max Neupert wrote: >>> this is the output when it does work: >> >>> set_baudrate baudbits: 57600 >> >>> this is the output when it doesn't: >> >>> set_baudrate baudbits: 115200 >> >>> anyone has a clue what's going on? >> >> I'm guessing the baudbits has something to do with it. Maybe >> something along the connection between pd and arduino doesn't >> support the higher speed. >> >> Never used arduino or any other serial devices though. >> >> >> Claude >> -- >> http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org > > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > -- Planet Pluto bleibt! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Delete scalars
I'm thinking about making a message to "pointer" that deletes the object after the pointed-to one (thus leaving the pointer itself unchanged) -- the gotch is that it would "stalify" all other pointers to the list, at least as things are currently implemented. As far as I know, there's no way at present to do it, short of copying the entire list out to another window and selectively copying back to the original one. cheers Miller On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 03:07:07PM +0200, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > Try searching the mailing list archives on this one. I don't think > it is possible, except for doing it by simlulating mouse motions with > messages. > > .hc > > On Jun 13, 2008, at 1:36 AM, Lau Llobet wrote: > > > > >I'm building some grafics in my pd project. > > > >I add some objects with the [append] but i need to erase them, i > >have found no way to delete them except by using " ; pd patch-data > >clear " message or array resizing , non of them is usefull to me > >because i need to erase some of them with no order. > >I've read that "Pointers are "safe": if you delete a scalar > >pointers to it are marked invalid." so i think there'll be a way to > >delete scalars , in fact i can do it manually with a Ctrl-X. > >Is there any way to do it ? > > > > thank you very much !. > > > >___ > >Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > >UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > >listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > > > > 'You people have such restrictive dress for women,? she said, > hobbling away in three inch heels and panty hose to finish out > another pink-collar temp pool day. - ?Hijab Scene #2", by Mohja Kahf > > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-dev] What goes on during dsp ticks?
Thomas,
Thanks a lot!
Wow, yes that seems to be the case.
Now having some mysteries solved, I can go get some sleep in comfort.
Seriously, you might have just saved my life :)
While you are there, can you please tell me just a bit more?
So, I've made a cache to copy the original signal to before processing.
Because the block size may change anytime, I am malloc & freeing a cache
the size of the block on each DSP cycle.
I hear that malloc is a "relatively" expensive task.
Is it bad practice to run this each cycle, or is a kilobyte or two not a
bid deal?
--
David Shimamoto
> Hi David,
>
> Am 14.06.2008 um 03:08 schrieb PSPunch:
>>
>>
>> =
>> == PROCESS BLOCK.2 ==
>> =
>>
>> while (n--) {
>> //*out++ = *in++;
>> }
>>
>>
>> Remarks: Action is commented out but signal goes through.. Why?
>>
>
> that's because in and out can point to the same memory... signal vectors
> are reused in PD for cache-friendlyness.
>
>>
>> =
>> == PROCESS BLOCK.4 ==
>> =
>>
>> n--;
>> *out++ = 0;
>> while (n--) {
>> *out++ = *in++;
>> }
>>
>>
>> Remarks: Expecting first sample of the block to be zero and others
>> delayed by 1 sample. Instead, I get an constant output of zero.
>
> As above... you have to be aware that when you are writing to the
> output, you change the input.
> Either cache the input or use a different algorithm (in this case start
> from the end)
>
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> That one is stymying IOhannes, if anyone has any suggestions. > > i think i might have fixed this in the Pd-extended/v0-40 branch (by > applying patch-#1990599 to pd/) > > tell me if it starts working tomorrow... > with Pd-0.40.3-extended-20080614-macosx105-i386 libdir loader $Revision: 1.8 $ written by Hans-Christoph Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> compiled on Jun 14 2008 at 03:36:53 compiled against Pd version 0.40.3.extended-20080614 hex loader $Revision: 1.5 $ written by IOhannes m zmölnig, IEM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> compiled on Jun 14 2008 at 03:36:53 compiled against Pd version 0.40.3.extended-20080614 ..snip.. load_object: Symbol "0x3c0x7e_setup" not found error: BUG: no pd_objectmaker found <~ ... couldn't create eni ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Teaching Pd to Children
why don't you take a look at Squeak? ypatios <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Any ideas would be greatly appreciated, as kids often hate Summer school > > and I want to make this a fun activity for them. > > > Make sure you use coloured GUIs! :-) > > > > -- > ypatios -- Patrick Pagano Sound and Light Technologist School of Theatre and Dance University of Florida ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] extended on asus eeePC?
It worked ok for me with the debian distro http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC by the way, just a little warning i first tried to install debian on a sdhc external card, ran into several pbs and finally this sd card burn out (apparently it happened to some other people). what i would avice then is to install debian on the internal card (removing xandros, which you have on the install cd anyway). i rand pd-extended and supercollider rather smoothly. best, vincent Kevin McCoy a écrit : I wouldn't recommend doing it with the default Xandros installation if you are new to Linux. It is certainly possible but you have to customize the repositories first, and then probably you'd want to permanently enable the advanced mode desktop, both of which require text editing and command line tweaking. This might sound like jargon to you but with a month or so of practice you'll have a lot better grip on it, we've all been there when we were learning Linux. There's stuff you have to understand about repositories, packages, dependencies, and all of that before you can get a good grasp on how to install pd extended in a customized Linux distribution like the one Asus provides. What would be a better choice would be to switch to something like eeexubuntu for your os and follow standard documentation for Ubuntu/Debian based operating systems - that way you get a good base of how-tos + etc floating around on the 'net in case you have any questions. So, there are a few of us using the eeepc on this list (I guess me and Georg, maybe some others too) but like I said, if you want to be able to follow the multitude of howtos and troubleshooting guides out there so you can get your problems resolved faster without having to wait for the slowbies to answer, you'll be better off getting a standard, full-functioning OS like eeexubuntu instead of the customized Asus Xandros. Check out www.eeeuser.com and read the wiki there - this is the best site for eeepc related matters and has great howto guides you can follow. Good luck!!! km On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:13 PM, potax flan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: i downloaded Hans' .deb installer but when i run it from the xandros desktop (choosing the option "install debian package" or something like that) i get an error message and it doesnt go far. both synaptic and apt-get give me a non-extended pd to install, which i tried, but i really need extended, as all my patches require it at some point. can you apt-get install extended? mayb it's just a matter of adding the right sources? ideas? On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Georg Holzmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hallo! just got a shiny new asus eeePC i am fairly new to linux, and looking for the easiest most friendly way to install pd-entended (i dont need it to be the latest version, althou that'd be great). tips for a linux newbie? It is just the same as on every other computer. I use (k)ubuntu on the eee, so all dependencies are easy to install ... However, I don't know if it is that easy on the default Xandros OS, you might not have all latest libraries, but you could try it ! LG Georg ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Delete scalars
Try searching the mailing list archives on this one. I don't think it is possible, except for doing it by simlulating mouse motions with messages. .hc On Jun 13, 2008, at 1:36 AM, Lau Llobet wrote: I'm building some grafics in my pd project. I add some objects with the [append] but i need to erase them, i have found no way to delete them except by using " ; pd patch-data clear " message or array resizing , non of them is usefull to me because i need to erase some of them with no order. I've read that "Pointers are "safe": if you delete a scalar pointers to it are marked invalid." so i think there'll be a way to delete scalars , in fact i can do it manually with a Ctrl-X. Is there any way to do it ? thank you very much !. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list 'You people have such restrictive dress for women,’ she said, hobbling away in three inch heels and panty hose to finish out another pink-collar temp pool day. - “Hijab Scene #2", by Mohja Kahf ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Question on Nightly builds...MacIntel
The Mac builds are all back, there was a compiling error with a recent checkin. .hc On Jun 13, 2008, at 1:14 PM, Luigi Rensinghoff wrote: Since there are Mac-Intel builds only once in a while... i would very much appreciate if there you be an annouce-e-mail if there is a new Mac-Intel-Build Thanks to all Luigi Am 12.06.2008 um 20:48 schrieb Mike McGonagle: Hello all, I have noticed the the last week or so that there are no Mac builds for the nightly stuff. Is there something happening with the Mac distro? Also, when there were things for the Mac, there was also something labeled with 'dyn'. Is that another separate distro? When I tried to download those things, it came up with a Pd-Extended app, named the same as the other Mac version, but when I tried to run it, it acted like it was starting, but then just quit. I checked the console, but couldn't find any error messages. Thanks, Mike -- Peace may sound simple—one beautiful word— but it requires everything we have, every quality, every strength, every dream, every high ideal. —Yehudi Menuhin (1916–1999), musician ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list >---< Luigi Rensinghoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype:gigischinke ichat:gigicarlo ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a more direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in practice, it can change entire economies. - Amy Smith ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Abstractions search path hirarchy (was: pduino-arduino trouble)
Yeah, that was my mistake, I removed hardware/arduino.pd from the nightly builds since it shouldn't be there. Sorry about that... .hc On Jun 14, 2008, at 11:59 AM, Max Neupert wrote: > hi list, > > i found the source of my problem here. > the patch was using the [arduino] abstraction. > i had it located in the same path than my patch (version 0.3), but > another one (version 0.4) is located in > /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/hardware/ > > i've always assumed that pd searches for abstractions first in the > same directory than the patch is found. that doesn't seem to be the > case. > > for some reason pd sometimes choose to prefer the 0.4 version which > has a different, non working bitrate set. > i've deleted the abstraction and use it now in a subpatch instead, so > i am sure no other version is loaded instead. > > max > > > Am 2008-06-13 um 18:54 schrieb Claude Heiland-Allen: > >> Max Neupert wrote: >>> this is the output when it does work: >> >>> set_baudrate baudbits: 57600 >> >>> this is the output when it doesn't: >> >>> set_baudrate baudbits: 115200 >> >>> anyone has a clue what's going on? >> >> I'm guessing the baudbits has something to do with it. Maybe >> something along the connection between pd and arduino doesn't >> support the higher speed. >> >> Never used arduino or any other serial devices though. >> >> >> Claude >> -- >> http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org > > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list The arc of history bends towards justice. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-0.40.3-extended select-help patch
Could you file a bug report? Use the "report bug" menu item on the Help meun. .hc On Jun 11, 2008, at 11:03 AM, nick burge wrote: > Trying to open the select-help patch crashes Pd-0.40.3 rc1 on my > Windows > Vista system. > I can't seem to replicate the crash with other help patches. > How strange is that? > Nick. > > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Abstractions search path hirarchy (was: pduino-arduino trouble)
hi list, i found the source of my problem here. the patch was using the [arduino] abstraction. i had it located in the same path than my patch (version 0.3), but another one (version 0.4) is located in /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/hardware/ i've always assumed that pd searches for abstractions first in the same directory than the patch is found. that doesn't seem to be the case. for some reason pd sometimes choose to prefer the 0.4 version which has a different, non working bitrate set. i've deleted the abstraction and use it now in a subpatch instead, so i am sure no other version is loaded instead. max Am 2008-06-13 um 18:54 schrieb Claude Heiland-Allen: > Max Neupert wrote: >> this is the output when it does work: > >> set_baudrate baudbits: 57600 > >> this is the output when it doesn't: > >> set_baudrate baudbits: 115200 > >> anyone has a clue what's going on? > > I'm guessing the baudbits has something to do with it. Maybe > something along the connection between pd and arduino doesn't > support the higher speed. > > Never used arduino or any other serial devices though. > > > Claude > -- > http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Size of a table
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 6:04 AM, marius schebella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hi, > that's cool. did not know that expr can do that! are there more features > of expr that are hidden or unknown?? > marius. > Hi Marius Check it out: http://www.crca.ucsd.edu/~yadegari/expr.html#funcs Cheers Luke > >> >> At 09:38 11/06/2008, you wrote: >>> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:03:28AM +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: raul diaz wrote: > I have a dumb question. What's the best way to get the size of a table? > Sometimes I load a lot of samples on tables with soundfiler and I would > like to take the size of each sample as a variable in order to use it > with phasor + tabread4~. > Is there any object which gets the size of a table? well i have a dumb answer: why not use the "length" output of [soundfiler]? i think that in this case the philosophy of Pd his, that there are 2 ways to change the length of a table: do it interactively (e.g. create a [table bla 1024] or do it programmatically (e.g. via [; bla resize 216() in the first case the author of the software is responsible for using (e.g. "hardcoding") the right table-size throughout there patch, in the latter case you could just listen to these programmatical changes). tables suddenly changing there size are beyond Pd :-) >>> There is one situation I have encountered where it would be useful to >>> have a built in [arraysize]. In some of the s-abstractions such as >>> [s-samplepiece~] you have to pass in the table name that you'd like the >>> abstraction to use. This means that at some point the user loads some >>> audio data into the named table (for example using [s-loader~]) and they >>> then know the sample table size. When they create the [s-samplepiece~] >>> playback abstraction they must manually enter the array size as one of >>> the arguments to the abstraction, along with the table name. >>> Inefficient. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Chris. >>> >>> --- >>> http://mccormick.cx >>> >>> ___ >>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >> >> ___ >> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
