Re: [PD] Microsound
I've found it hard to find audio example of the music? Have you any good examples? Best of luck! Dom On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 3:54 AM, Nic Freed beatthefinalb...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, my name is Nic, and I am 15 years old. I am getting into pure data, and am now into a state of familiarity with the PD interface and common synthesis methods, along with most of the basic ideas and knowledge needed to begin patching. I have received quite a bit of help from the #dataflow irc channel, so everyone from the chat also on this list, I would like to say thank you! :) Anyway, the reason I am posting to this list is to ask about the techniques used in the genre known as microsound, which is explained in brief detail at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsound I would like to learn the sort of techniques I can use in PD in application for the genre, since it seems ideal for such music, since you can work directly on a sample-by-sample basis. Also, if anyone here has firsthand experience in the genre, suggestions on books, media, and examples would be greatly appreciated! I apologize if this email is a bit forward, or is not correctly formatted for use in mailing list. This is my first time posting to a mailing list, so let me know if I did something incorrectly and I would be very thankful. Thank you for taking the time to respond! --a new student in the school of PD :) Nic AKA nekk ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Music made with Pd
Thanks for listening! I didn't know these bands. Pierre 2010/10/18 Kyle Klipowicz kylek...@gmail.com Yeah sounds good. Kind of a Field Music or Ghosts and Vodka sound to it. Good work on making some nice tunes. ~Kyle On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.comwrote: Hi Pierre, nice music! Yes, it's interesting to listen to Pd played in a rock band. M From: Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com Subject: [PD] Music made with Pd To: pd-list pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: aanlktin3+e=m6r4y0m1rwa9y72lj0l1ftr01grcqy...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi everyone, I just wanted to share some music i've made with my band, because i've used Pd with my guitar and a rt setup and i'm very happy with the results. I remember when i started experimenting with this a year ago, i had hope but i did not expect it to work so well. So here it is : http://pierreetleloup.bandcamp.com/ There's some Pd-processed guitar on the following songs: Not too sad, Nyctalope, Canop?e and We own the sky. The rest is just plain rock trio stuff (irrelevant here). There's no keyboard and i didn't need any hardware effetcs. So this gives me an opportunity to thank everybody on the list, it's really neat to always have someone who can help you and provide a bit of code! cheers! Pierre -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher Ongoing MSc by Research, University of Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Microsound
Hi Nic, for what I read about it, I think microsound, isn't really a Genre, but more a technique. There are diferent ways to go using microsounds, for instance one of the most used/known is the granular synthesis. You can search some stuff from Curtis Roads, he made a lot of digital granular synthesis, and he also has some books about it. I am sure more people in here will have more insight than me to explain how to use microsounds on your music. Best of luck in your journey RRL 2010/10/18 Dominic Pflaum dompfl...@gmail.com I've found it hard to find audio example of the music? Have you any good examples? Best of luck! Dom On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 3:54 AM, Nic Freed beatthefinalb...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, my name is Nic, and I am 15 years old. I am getting into pure data, and am now into a state of familiarity with the PD interface and common synthesis methods, along with most of the basic ideas and knowledge needed to begin patching. I have received quite a bit of help from the #dataflow irc channel, so everyone from the chat also on this list, I would like to say thank you! :) Anyway, the reason I am posting to this list is to ask about the techniques used in the genre known as microsound, which is explained in brief detail at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsound I would like to learn the sort of techniques I can use in PD in application for the genre, since it seems ideal for such music, since you can work directly on a sample-by-sample basis. Also, if anyone here has firsthand experience in the genre, suggestions on books, media, and examples would be greatly appreciated! I apologize if this email is a bit forward, or is not correctly formatted for use in mailing list. This is my first time posting to a mailing list, so let me know if I did something incorrectly and I would be very thankful. Thank you for taking the time to respond! --a new student in the school of PD :) Nic AKA nekk ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Microsound
I think this is totaly microsound: http://lab.8rnl.be/Migrateur/ Music from Bjarni Gunnarsson http://bjarni-gunnarsson.net/ ** Laurent On 10/18/2010 12:59 PM, Ricardo Lameiro wrote: Hi Nic, for what I read about it, I think microsound, isn't really a Genre, but more a technique. There are diferent ways to go using microsounds, for instance one of the most used/known is the granular synthesis. You can search some stuff from Curtis Roads, he made a lot of digital granular synthesis, and he also has some books about it. I am sure more people in here will have more insight than me to explain how to use microsounds on your music. Best of luck in your journey RRL 2010/10/18 Dominic Pflaum dompfl...@gmail.com mailto:dompfl...@gmail.com I've found it hard to find audio example of the music? Have you any good examples? Best of luck! Dom On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 3:54 AM, Nic Freed beatthefinalb...@gmail.com mailto:beatthefinalb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, my name is Nic, and I am 15 years old. I am getting into pure data, and am now into a state of familiarity with the PD interface and common synthesis methods, along with most of the basic ideas and knowledge needed to begin patching. I have received quite a bit of help from the #dataflow irc channel, so everyone from the chat also on this list, I would like to say thank you! :) Anyway, the reason I am posting to this list is to ask about the techniques used in the genre known as microsound, which is explained in brief detail at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsound I would like to learn the sort of techniques I can use in PD in application for the genre, since it seems ideal for such music, since you can work directly on a sample-by-sample basis. Also, if anyone here has firsthand experience in the genre, suggestions on books, media, and examples would be greatly appreciated! I apologize if this email is a bit forward, or is not correctly formatted for use in mailing list. This is my first time posting to a mailing list, so let me know if I did something incorrectly and I would be very thankful. Thank you for taking the time to respond! --a new student in the school of PD :) Nic AKA nekk ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Microsound
One of the more common techniques associated to microsound is granular synthesis, book microsound by curtis road pd tutorial http://www.pd-tutorial.com by Johannes Kreidler 3.7 granular synthesis PD granulators: particlechamber by Derek Holzer http://puredata.info/community/patches pulsegrain by nullpointer http://www.nullpointer.co.uk/-/pd.htm nm-grainer by Nick Mariete http://puredata.info/Members/nmariette/granular-implementations granulator by ch in the externat lib nusmuk included at pd-extended also try to check at pd-list archives salut! -- http://noconventions.mobi/noish ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Microsound
The classic reference is Microsound by Curtis Roads (one of the references in the Wikipedia article), although some of the math is pretty advanced. http://mitpress.mit.edu/catalog/item/default.asp?ttype=2tid=10389 There's also a mailing list dedicated to Microsound that you might want to subscribe to, although it doesn't seem very active these days: http://www.microsound.org Good luck with PD and Microsound! On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 3:54 AM, Nic Freed beatthefinalb...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, my name is Nic, and I am 15 years old. I am getting into pure data, and am now into a state of familiarity with the PD interface and common synthesis methods, along with most of the basic ideas and knowledge needed to begin patching. I have received quite a bit of help from the #dataflow irc channel, so everyone from the chat also on this list, I would like to say thank you! :) Anyway, the reason I am posting to this list is to ask about the techniques used in the genre known as microsound, which is explained in brief detail at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsound I would like to learn the sort of techniques I can use in PD in application for the genre, since it seems ideal for such music, since you can work directly on a sample-by-sample basis. Also, if anyone here has firsthand experience in the genre, suggestions on books, media, and examples would be greatly appreciated! I apologize if this email is a bit forward, or is not correctly formatted for use in mailing list. This is my first time posting to a mailing list, so let me know if I did something incorrectly and I would be very thankful. Thank you for taking the time to respond! --a new student in the school of PD :) Nic AKA nekk ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Microsound
Am 18.10.2010 um 13:40 schrieb oskoff lovich: One of the more common techniques associated to microsound is granular synthesis, book microsound by curtis road pd tutorial http://www.pd-tutorial.com by Johannes Kreidler 3.7 granular synthesis PD granulators: i like this one by tim vets: http://www.timvets.net/video/grains.php?page=software particlechamber by Derek Holzer http://puredata.info/community/patches pulsegrain by nullpointer http://www.nullpointer.co.uk/-/pd.htm nm-grainer by Nick Mariete http://puredata.info/Members/nmariette/granular-implementations granulator by ch in the externat lib nusmuk included at pd-extended also try to check at pd-list archives PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Microsound
One of the more common techniques associated to microsound is granular synthesis, book microsound by curtis road pd tutorial http://www.pd-tutorial.com by Johannes Kreidler 3.7 granular synthesis PD granulators: particlechamber by Derek Holzer http://puredata.info/community/patches pulsegrain by nullpointer http://www.nullpointer.co.uk/-/pd.htm nm-grainer by Nick Mariete http://puredata.info/Members/nmariette/granular-implementations granulator by ch in the externat lib nusmuk included at pd-extended You can also check out disis_munger~ which is an updated/enhanced version of munger~ from the PeRcolate library and which apparently never worked quite right on PD/Linux. HTH Ico ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Microsound
You can also check out disis_munger~ which is an updated/enhanced version of munger~ from the PeRcolate library and which apparently never worked quite right on PD/Linux. munger~ and disis_munger~ working very well on PD/Linux 2010/10/18, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu: One of the more common techniques associated to microsound is granular synthesis, book microsound by curtis road pd tutorial http://www.pd-tutorial.com by Johannes Kreidler 3.7 granular synthesis PD granulators: particlechamber by Derek Holzer http://puredata.info/community/patches pulsegrain by nullpointer http://www.nullpointer.co.uk/-/pd.htm nm-grainer by Nick Mariete http://puredata.info/Members/nmariette/granular-implementations granulator by ch in the externat lib nusmuk included at pd-extended You can also check out disis_munger~ which is an updated/enhanced version of munger~ from the PeRcolate library and which apparently never worked quite right on PD/Linux. HTH Ico -- http://noconventions.mobi/noish ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] vbap/define_loudspeakers mach-o error
On Sun, 17 Oct 2010, Pagano, Patrick wrote: Thanks Mathieu, i figured with the mach-o error which i recall from SGI days as well that it had to do with the CPU Mach-o is only the name of the file format for files that are to be run by the CPU (apps, dylibs, etc). It depends on which OS you run. For a Linux OS, the same error is possible but would be considered an error about ELF because the file format is ELF, and on Windows, it's EXE-PE instead. There's more than one possible error that can happen with handling those file formats : it's not just about which kind of CPU. When you get Symbol not found it's also a Mach-o error as long as the file format is Mach-o. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard -- Villeray, Montréal, QC___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] overdriven speaker
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010, Martin Schied wrote: field) and also time variant (temperature) and modulation (doppler effect / amplitude modulation) effects. I don't know which effects have a stronger or weaker influence, for a sinewave, a peak of ±1 millimètre at 1 kiloHertz travels like y = 0.001*sin(2000πt) mètres so dy/dt = 2π*cos(2000πt) mètres/seconde so, the peak speed is ±2π m/s while the speed of sound is roughly 343 m/s, thus the doppler effect would be ±1.83 %, creating a vibrato of ±32 cents, but this vibrato is so fast, that it actually sounds like something else, because it runs at the same frequency as the input signal. I tried it, and it sounds like related to waveshaping (although it's not). So maybe that's closer to what fallen_devil wants, because it has a quite richer sound than the usual [expr~ tanh($v1)]. I did it using [vd~]. (I imagine that I will soon retry with a natural spline version of it...) ___ | Mathieu Bouchard -- Villeray, Montréal, QC___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] overdriven speaker
This is getting interesting. I'm sorry, how did you do this with vd~? 2010/10/18 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca On Sat, 16 Oct 2010, Martin Schied wrote: field) and also time variant (temperature) and modulation (doppler effect / amplitude modulation) effects. I don't know which effects have a stronger or weaker influence, for a sinewave, a peak of ±1 millimètre at 1 kiloHertz travels like y = 0.001*sin(2000πt) mètres so dy/dt = 2π*cos(2000πt) mètres/seconde so, the peak speed is ±2π m/s while the speed of sound is roughly 343 m/s, thus the doppler effect would be ±1.83 %, creating a vibrato of ±32 cents, but this vibrato is so fast, that it actually sounds like something else, because it runs at the same frequency as the input signal. I tried it, and it sounds like related to waveshaping (although it's not). So maybe that's closer to what fallen_devil wants, because it has a quite richer sound than the usual [expr~ tanh($v1)]. I did it using [vd~]. (I imagine that I will soon retry with a natural spline version of it...) ___ | Mathieu Bouchard -- Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Microsound
It seems I worded my original email clumsily. AFAIK munger~ never worked for me which is why in part we built DISIS_munger~ (which does work). oskoff lovich noi...@gmail.com wrote: You can also check out disis_munger~ which is an updated/enhanced version of munger~ from the PeRcolate library and which apparently never worked quite right on PD/Linux. munger~ and disis_munger~ working very well on PD/Linux 2010/10/18, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu: One of the more common techniques associated to microsound is granular synthesis, book microsound by curtis road pd tutorial http://www.pd-tutorial.com by Johannes Kreidler 3.7 granular synthesis PD granulators: particlechamber by Derek Holzer http://puredata.info/community/patches pulsegrain by nullpointer http://www.nullpointer.co.uk/-/pd.htm nm-grainer by Nick Mariete http://puredata.info/Members/nmariette/granular-implementations granulator by ch in the externat lib nusmuk included at pd-extended You can also check out disis_munger~ which is an updated/enhanced version of munger~ from the PeRcolate library and which apparently never worked quite right on PD/Linux. HTH Ico -- http://noconventions.mobi/noish ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] bpm counter
before building something that's already there, has anyone done a working bpm counter in pd? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] bpm counter
On Mon, 18 Oct 2010, L.J. wrote: before building something that's already there, has anyone done a working bpm counter in pd? use GridFlow's [fps]. It will give you Hz (bangs per second). After that you can use [* 60] to convert it to bangs per minute. There's an option in [fps] to choose how often you want it reported. See this help file : http://gridflow.ca/help/fps-help.html Note that the default mode is real, so it uses [realtime]. If you want it to use logical time, you can write in the box : [fps, mode logical] ___ | Mathieu Bouchard -- Villeray, Montréal, QC___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Latency under Linux/Jack (again...)
I still have a lot of DIO errors... no idea how to manage that? I also do get some xruns now and then when moving around gui object I have a lot (1 every 30 sec when I don't touch nothing, more if I play with a patch), and they are really audibles... r Raphael Raccuia a écrit : tried with just one security config, no changes... Lorenzo a écrit : -RME Multiface I /HDSP expresscard So this (not the pcmcia) works on linux? That's interesting news. OT: it should... I asked on many forums to be sure it does, and people said me it's basically the same as pcmcia... but I have a lot of trouble: freeze on boot 9/10... but 1/10, when it works it works pretty good! It could be a hardware issue (my computer). I'm talking with a RME technician to fix it, or almost know where the problem comes from... I also do get some xruns now and then when moving around gui object (like selecting a whole lot of objects and moving them around) even with rt kernel, pd run with -rt etc etc... Otherwise it is usually *quite* stable. Lorenzo Of course jack run with -R. I repeat I don't have any problem to run application with really good latency: yesterday, I forgot to increase buffer as I worked on a 96000Hz Ardour session... I noticed I was working at 5ms I/O after one hour recording and playing a lot of tracks, and no xrun, no problems... I also think it's not a good Idea to run pd as root... and I suppose other application won't connect to jack if I run it as root also. I noticed I had two times the @audio config (limits.conf, audio.conf). You'll say: better twice than nothing... But maybe it generates a conflict... I try Le mardi 12 octobre 2010 à 11:50 -0300, Bernardo Barros a écrit : Don't run programs as root, your system will be as insecure as a windows box... Just allow rt privileges to the audio group, and add yourself to this group. Then start jack with rt privileges. All software linked to Jack will run with -rt. from http://jackaudio.org/faq JACK requires real-time scheduling privileges for reliable, dropout-free operation. The server requests these privileges when running with the -R option. Most recent distributions use PAM to manage the permissions of users on a relatively granular level. If the file /etc/security/limits.conf exists on your system, it is using PAM. In order to configure PAM such that normal users can run jackd with realtime privileges make sure the following lines exist: @audio - rtprio 99 @audio - memlockunlimited 2010/10/12 Pedro Lopespedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt: If you start pd in sudo, you have to connect to jack in sudo mode. Thus start jack in sudo (or gksudo for qjackctl). I advise to use an rt kernel too. See documentation of Ubuntu Studio. On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Raphael Raccuia rafael.racc...@blindekinder.com wrote: Hi list, I tested Pd rt as I need low latency for a performance next week... It seems -rt flag doesn't have any effect. I measured Pd latency with jdelay, and always get 640 (@48000), so about 13ms (pd only)... lower I set buffer in jack (no less than 256), more DIO errors I get... and there are a lot! This setting works great with many application (Ardour...), with about 10ms (~15 really). So I would have ~25ms, which is acceptable, but too many DIO errors! -what is -defeatrt setting? (I tried 0 and 1, no change) -why is -rt flag without effect? -tried nosleep, no change... I also tried to start pd in root (sudo)... It says: priority 8 scheduling enabled. priority 6 scheduling enabled. (which I normally don't have) but unfortunately can't connect to jack (state 17) thank's for your help ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (ongoing MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Latency under Linux/Jack (again...)
I had problems with xruns using the nouveau driver, the nvidia driver improved performance here. Hope that this helps. 2010/10/18 Raphael Raccuia rafael.racc...@blindekinder.com: I still have a lot of DIO errors... no idea how to manage that? I also do get some xruns now and then when moving around gui object I have a lot (1 every 30 sec when I don't touch nothing, more if I play with a patch), and they are really audibles... r Raphael Raccuia a écrit : tried with just one security config, no changes... Lorenzo a écrit : -RME Multiface I /HDSP expresscard So this (not the pcmcia) works on linux? That's interesting news. OT: it should... I asked on many forums to be sure it does, and people said me it's basically the same as pcmcia... but I have a lot of trouble: freeze on boot 9/10... but 1/10, when it works it works pretty good! It could be a hardware issue (my computer). I'm talking with a RME technician to fix it, or almost know where the problem comes from... I also do get some xruns now and then when moving around gui object (like selecting a whole lot of objects and moving them around) even with rt kernel, pd run with -rt etc etc... Otherwise it is usually *quite* stable. Lorenzo Of course jack run with -R. I repeat I don't have any problem to run application with really good latency: yesterday, I forgot to increase buffer as I worked on a 96000Hz Ardour session... I noticed I was working at 5ms I/O after one hour recording and playing a lot of tracks, and no xrun, no problems... I also think it's not a good Idea to run pd as root... and I suppose other application won't connect to jack if I run it as root also. I noticed I had two times the @audio config (limits.conf, audio.conf). You'll say: better twice than nothing... But maybe it generates a conflict... I try Le mardi 12 octobre 2010 à 11:50 -0300, Bernardo Barros a écrit : Don't run programs as root, your system will be as insecure as a windows box... Just allow rt privileges to the audio group, and add yourself to this group. Then start jack with rt privileges. All software linked to Jack will run with -rt. from http://jackaudio.org/faq JACK requires real-time scheduling privileges for reliable, dropout-free operation. The server requests these privileges when running with the -R option. Most recent distributions use PAM to manage the permissions of users on a relatively granular level. If the file /etc/security/limits.conf exists on your system, it is using PAM. In order to configure PAM such that normal users can run jackd with realtime privileges make sure the following lines exist: @audio - rtprio 99 @audio - memlock unlimited 2010/10/12 Pedro Lopespedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt: If you start pd in sudo, you have to connect to jack in sudo mode. Thus start jack in sudo (or gksudo for qjackctl). I advise to use an rt kernel too. See documentation of Ubuntu Studio. On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Raphael Raccuia rafael.racc...@blindekinder.com wrote: Hi list, I tested Pd rt as I need low latency for a performance next week... It seems -rt flag doesn't have any effect. I measured Pd latency with jdelay, and always get 640 (@48000), so about 13ms (pd only)... lower I set buffer in jack (no less than 256), more DIO errors I get... and there are a lot! This setting works great with many application (Ardour...), with about 10ms (~15 really). So I would have ~25ms, which is acceptable, but too many DIO errors! -what is -defeatrt setting? (I tried 0 and 1, no change) -why is -rt flag without effect? -tried nosleep, no change... I also tried to start pd in root (sudo)... It says: priority 8 scheduling enabled. priority 6 scheduling enabled. (which I normally don't have) but unfortunately can't connect to jack (state 17) thank's for your help ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (ongoing MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] overdriven speaker
On Mon, 18 Oct 2010, Pierre Massat wrote: This is getting interesting. I'm sorry, how did you do this with vd~? C'est juste ça (en attachement). En fait, ma vraie patch est plus complexe, mais j'essaye pas vraiment de reproduire le phénomène physique de toute façon. Mes formules de vitesse sont même pas bonnes : il faudrait que j'utilise la loi de Maxwell et la loi de Hooke pour obtenir queqchose dans le domaine du réaliste, parce que y a rien qui dise comment les signaux audio de Pd peuvent correspondre à des millimètres dans cette patch ; J'imagine que ça me prendrait des [rpole~], [cpole~] et/ou [biquad~] quelque part là-dedans. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard -- Villeray, Montréal, QC#N canvas 0 0 395 185 10; #X obj 19 26 adc~; #X obj 18 144 dac~; #X obj 26 47 delwrite~ a 500; #X floatatom 48 87 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 18 125 vd~ a; #X obj 18 68 +~ 1; #X obj 18 106 +~ 2; #X obj 18 87 *~ 5; #X connect 0 0 2 0; #X connect 0 0 5 0; #X connect 3 0 7 1; #X connect 4 0 1 0; #X connect 5 0 7 0; #X connect 6 0 4 0; #X connect 7 0 6 0; ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pduino + arduino UNO
hey there, i'm teaching in an intensive course about Arduino in an italian design school. some of the students are using Pduino for their final projects. the point is i have a student who bought the new Arduino UNO board, we tried to use it with Firmata 2.2 and Pduino, but it doesn't work. when loading the arduino-test it loads only a part of the patch in the console view. it recognizes the board as an Arduino UNO, but then it says can't create i tried to search for the problem with google, but we haven't found anything useful. maybe someone encountered a similar problem? :) alessandro contini + www.cntlsn.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] overdriven speaker
Sounds really cool with a guitar and with high gain (around 50). What's nice is the change in the spectrum depending on the volume of the input. Le 18 octobre 2010 20:13, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca a écrit : On Mon, 18 Oct 2010, Pierre Massat wrote: This is getting interesting. I'm sorry, how did you do this with vd~? C'est juste ça (en attachement). En fait, ma vraie patch est plus complexe, mais j'essaye pas vraiment de reproduire le phénomène physique de toute façon. Mes formules de vitesse sont même pas bonnes : il faudrait que j'utilise la loi de Maxwell et la loi de Hooke pour obtenir queqchose dans le domaine du réaliste, parce que y a rien qui dise comment les signaux audio de Pd peuvent correspondre à des millimètres dans cette patch ; J'imagine que ça me prendrait des [rpole~], [cpole~] et/ou [biquad~] quelque part là-dedans. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard -- Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pduino + arduino UNO
from http://arduino.cc/en/Main/Hardware : It is similar to the Duemilanove, but has a different USB-to-serial chip the ATMega8U2 may have something to do with it...? gr, Tim 2010/10/18 alessandro contini aless.cont...@gmail.com hey there, i'm teaching in an intensive course about Arduino in an italian design school. some of the students are using Pduino for their final projects. the point is i have a student who bought the new Arduino UNO board, we tried to use it with Firmata 2.2 and Pduino, but it doesn't work. when loading the arduino-test it loads only a part of the patch in the console view. it recognizes the board as an Arduino UNO, but then it says can't create i tried to search for the problem with google, but we haven't found anything useful. maybe someone encountered a similar problem? :) alessandro contini + www.cntlsn.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Graphic Novel Opera
Hi list, Just wanted to send out a link to my group's graphic-novel (rock?) opera Le Cyc that we recently released online: http://www.polydactylhearts.ca/?page_id=397 For the project I built a projection system in PD-GEM which allows the artist to perform the visuals (including panning/zooming) in real-time with the band. It's a glorified slideshow but I'm proud of it :) We're performing that and our newer project Hello Adventure (no online samples...yet. More of a stop-motion animation piece) in Montreal this coming weekend and in other parts of Ontario through early November so if you're in the area please do come say hi. Cheers, -martin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] [arte + innovación] T aller de Algoritmia 2010
Estimados(as), El segundo año de actividades de Taller de Algoritmia contemplará nuevos módulos de conocimientos aplicados en arte y estética, además de una relación aún más directa con la innovación en relación al nuevo espacio que nos acoge este 2010. Nos es grato informar que gracias al apoyo de Corfo, a través de su nueva área de archivos y biblioteca, los módulos prácticos en innovación y estética se realizarán en sus nuevas dependencias ubicadas en calle Moneda 921, Santiago; segundo piso, sala patrimonial; a partir de la segunda semana de noviembre. Los módulos convocados para este año son: ISA:: Introducción a Sensores Análogos para Interfaces Interactivas ICG:: Introducción a Computer Graphics IPD:: Introducción a Pure Data (Pd) ISM:: Introducción a Sensores con Microcontroladores IBE:: Instrumentación Bioelectrónica ISS:: Introducción a la Síntesis de Sonidos con Pd IMMVP :: Introducción a Método en Música y Video-Performance con Pd IOSC :: Introducción a Open Sound Control (OSC) SSII :: Sensores Inalámbricos CCDD :: Controladores Digitales IMMEPD :: Introducción a Métodos en Música Electrónica con Pd IOCV :: Introducción a Open Computer Vision (OpenCV) IEM:: Instrumentos Electrónicos Musicales También quiero dar la bienvenida a Hector Capossiello y Marco Colasso, que integran este año el taller. Desde sus respectivas áreas de expertise, guiarán los nuevos módulos propuestos en Computer Graphics y Síntesis de Sonido respectivamente. Debo recordar el fiel compromiso que el taller ha tenido desde un inicio con la utilización de lógica de licencia libre para múltiples plataformas, como una vía efectiva de divulgar los detalles que hacen de los métodos algorítmicos un bien de dominio común, sin desmedro de la apropiación original, intelectual e industrial de los procesos implicados. Desde ya les envío mis saludos más cordiales a todos(as) Uds. se despide atentamente, Diego Correa T. Coordinador Taller de Algoritmia 2010 http://labormedia.cl/algoritmia Santiago, Chile. -- http://labormedia.cl/algoritmia ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Graphic Novel Opera
sounds cool lets see the patch :-) pp From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Martin Eckart [imart...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 8:24 PM To: pd-list Subject: [PD] Graphic Novel Opera Hi list, Just wanted to send out a link to my group's graphic-novel (rock?) opera Le Cyc that we recently released online: http://www.polydactylhearts.ca/?page_id=397 For the project I built a projection system in PD-GEM which allows the artist to perform the visuals (including panning/zooming) in real-time with the band. It's a glorified slideshow but I'm proud of it :) We're performing that and our newer project Hello Adventure (no online samples...yet. More of a stop-motion animation piece) in Montreal this coming weekend and in other parts of Ontario through early November so if you're in the area please do come say hi. Cheers, -martin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] overdriven speaker
really nice distortion. I just fed it a few drum loops and it sounds very similar to drunken DJs at 5am... I added a lop~ 200 before the modulation going into vd~ to reduce harsh sounds a bit, emphasizes the nice pow sound for bassdrums. using the first deviation as modulation should be more physically correct but sounded very tinny and thin. Using direct signal for modulation like Mathieu used works very well and sounds more pleasant... Interesting. I didn't expect it that way :) cheers Martin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Graphic Novel Opera
Aw, now you're calling out my messy ass (but working!) code. I'll try to do some cleanup tomorrow and get something up for y'all. The basic guts are (pdextended running on ubuntu): GEM (with gmerlin compiled in) -series of 300ish hand-drawn images are ffmpeged into an mjpeg .avi -pix_film to open and display the avi -2 gemheads to provide fading transitions between frames HID to get the usb gamepad to control advancing frames, zooming and panning -martin On Mon, 2010-10-18 at 21:19 -0400, Pagano, Patrick wrote: sounds cool lets see the patch :-) pp From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Martin Eckart [imart...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 8:24 PM To: pd-list Subject: [PD] Graphic Novel Opera Hi list, Just wanted to send out a link to my group's graphic-novel (rock?) opera Le Cyc that we recently released online: http://www.polydactylhearts.ca/?page_id=397 For the project I built a projection system in PD-GEM which allows the artist to perform the visuals (including panning/zooming) in real-time with the band. It's a glorified slideshow but I'm proud of it :) We're performing that and our newer project Hello Adventure (no online samples...yet. More of a stop-motion animation piece) in Montreal this coming weekend and in other parts of Ontario through early November so if you're in the area please do come say hi. Cheers, -martin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pduino + arduino UNO
HI, I have no arduino one hand, you could try installing the latest Arduino IDE, is for the UNO plate. I noticed that in 2.1 are defined Firmat chipset ATMEGA xxx in the file named firmata.h chipsets there are defined outputs and inputs, not sure, but could include a chip or model, remember that the FTDI system but not necessary with an Arduino UNO. The Uno differs from all preceding boards in that it does not use the FTDI USB-to-serial driver chip. Instead, it features the Atmega8U2 programmed as a USB-to-serial converter. (arduino.cc) Below define of plates, chips and inputs/outputs Try de solutions and keep working José == * MACROS **/ /* shortcut for setFirmwareNameAndVersion() that uses __FILE__ to set the * firmware name. It needs to be a macro so that __FILE__ is included in the * firmware source file rather than the library source file. */ #define setFirmwareVersion(x, y) setFirmwareNameAndVersion(__FILE__, x, y) // total number of pins currently supported #if defined(__AVR_ATmega168__) || defined(__AVR_ATmega328P__) // Arduino NG and Diecimila #define TOTAL_ANALOG_PINS 8 #define TOTAL_DIGITAL_PINS 22 // 14 digital + 8 analog #define TOTAL_PORTS 3 // total number of ports for the board #define ANALOG_PORT 2 // port# of analog used as digital #define FIRST_ANALOG_PIN14 // pin# corresponding to analog 0 #define VERSION_BLINK_PIN 13 // digital pin to blink version on #define FIRST_SERVO_PIN 2 // pin# of the first servo pin #elif defined(__AVR_ATmega8__) // old Arduinos #define TOTAL_ANALOG_PINS 6 #define TOTAL_DIGITAL_PINS 20 // 14 digital + 6 analog #define TOTAL_PORTS 3 // total number of ports for the board #define ANALOG_PORT 2 // port# of analog used as digital #define FIRST_ANALOG_PIN14 // pin# corresponding to analog 0 #define VERSION_BLINK_PIN 13 // digital pin to blink version on #define FIRST_SERVO_PIN 2 // pin# of the first servo pin #elif defined(__AVR_ATmega1280__)// Arduino Mega #define TOTAL_ANALOG_PINS 16 #define TOTAL_DIGITAL_PINS 70 // 54 digital + 16 analog #define TOTAL_PORTS 9 // total number of ports for the board #define ANALOG_PORT 8 // port# of analog used as digital #define FIRST_ANALOG_PIN54 // pin# corresponding to analog 0 #define VERSION_BLINK_PIN 13 // digital pin to blink version on #define FIRST_SERVO_PIN 2 // pin# of the first servo pin #elif defined(__AVR_ATmega128__)// Wiring #define TOTAL_ANALOG_PINS 8 #define TOTAL_DIGITAL_PINS 51 #define TOTAL_PORTS 7 // total number of ports for the board #define ANALOG_PORT 5 // port# of analog used as digital #define FIRST_ANALOG_PIN40 // pin# corresponding to analog 0 #define VERSION_BLINK_PIN 48 // digital pin to blink version on #define FIRST_SERVO_PIN 8 // pin# of the first servo pin #elif defined(__AVR_AT90USB162__) // Teensy #define TOTAL_ANALOG_PINS 0 #define TOTAL_DIGITAL_PINS 21 // 21 digital + no analog #define TOTAL_PORTS 4 // total number of ports for the board #define ANALOG_PORT 3 // port# of analog used as digital #define FIRST_ANALOG_PIN21 // pin# corresponding to analog 0 #define VERSION_BLINK_PIN 6 // digital pin to blink version on #elif defined(__AVR_ATmega32U4__) // Teensy #define TOTAL_ANALOG_PINS 12 #define TOTAL_DIGITAL_PINS 25 // 11 digital + 12 analog #define TOTAL_PORTS 4 // total number of ports for the board #define ANALOG_PORT 3 // port# of analog used as digital #define FIRST_ANALOG_PIN11 // pin# corresponding to analog 0 #define VERSION_BLINK_PIN 11 // digital pin to blink version on #elif defined(__AVR_AT90USB646__) || defined(__AVR_AT90USB1286__) // Teensy++ #define TOTAL_ANALOG_PINS 8 #define TOTAL_DIGITAL_PINS 46 // 38 digital + 8 analog #define TOTAL_PORTS 6 // total number of ports for the board #define ANALOG_PORT 5 // port# of analog used as digital #define FIRST_ANALOG_PIN38 // pin# corresponding to analog 0 #define VERSION_BLINK_PIN 6 // digital pin to blink version on #elif defined(__AVR_ATmega644P__) || defined(__AVR_ATmega644__) // Sanguino #define TOTAL_ANALOG_PINS 8 #define TOTAL_DIGITAL_PINS 32 // 24 digital + 8 analog #define TOTAL_PORTS 4 // total number of ports for the board #define ANALOG_PORT 3 // port# of analog used as digital #define FIRST_ANALOG_PIN24 // pin# corresponding to analog 0 #define VERSION_BLINK_PIN 0 // digital pin to blink version on #elif defined(__AVR_ATmega645__) // Illuminato #define TOTAL_ANALOG_PINS 6 #define TOTAL_DIGITAL_PINS 42 // 36 digital + 6
Re: [PD] pduino + arduino UNO
Ooops, the firmata.h is in the pduino/firmata... Best regards José 2010/10/19 Jose Luis Santorcuato santorcuat...@gmail.com HI, I have no arduino one hand, you could try installing the latest Arduino IDE, is for the UNO plate. I noticed that in 2.1 are defined Firmat chipset ATMEGA xxx in the file named firmata.h chipsets there are defined outputs and inputs, not sure, but could include a chip or model, remember that the FTDI system but not necessary with an Arduino UNO. The Uno differs from all preceding boards in that it does not use the FTDI USB-to-serial driver chip. Instead, it features the Atmega8U2 programmed as a USB-to-serial converter. (arduino.cc) Below define of plates, chips and inputs/outputs Try de solutions and keep working José == * MACROS **/ /* shortcut for setFirmwareNameAndVersion() that uses __FILE__ to set the * firmware name. It needs to be a macro so that __FILE__ is included in the * firmware source file rather than the library source file. */ #define setFirmwareVersion(x, y) setFirmwareNameAndVersion(__FILE__, x, y) // total number of pins currently supported #if defined(__AVR_ATmega168__) || defined(__AVR_ATmega328P__) // Arduino NG and Diecimila #define TOTAL_ANALOG_PINS 8 #define TOTAL_DIGITAL_PINS 22 // 14 digital + 8 analog #define TOTAL_PORTS 3 // total number of ports for the board #define ANALOG_PORT 2 // port# of analog used as digital #define FIRST_ANALOG_PIN14 // pin# corresponding to analog 0 #define VERSION_BLINK_PIN 13 // digital pin to blink version on #define FIRST_SERVO_PIN 2 // pin# of the first servo pin #elif defined(__AVR_ATmega8__) // old Arduinos #define TOTAL_ANALOG_PINS 6 #define TOTAL_DIGITAL_PINS 20 // 14 digital + 6 analog #define TOTAL_PORTS 3 // total number of ports for the board #define ANALOG_PORT 2 // port# of analog used as digital #define FIRST_ANALOG_PIN14 // pin# corresponding to analog 0 #define VERSION_BLINK_PIN 13 // digital pin to blink version on #define FIRST_SERVO_PIN 2 // pin# of the first servo pin #elif defined(__AVR_ATmega1280__)// Arduino Mega #define TOTAL_ANALOG_PINS 16 #define TOTAL_DIGITAL_PINS 70 // 54 digital + 16 analog #define TOTAL_PORTS 9 // total number of ports for the board #define ANALOG_PORT 8 // port# of analog used as digital #define FIRST_ANALOG_PIN54 // pin# corresponding to analog 0 #define VERSION_BLINK_PIN 13 // digital pin to blink version on #define FIRST_SERVO_PIN 2 // pin# of the first servo pin #elif defined(__AVR_ATmega128__)// Wiring #define TOTAL_ANALOG_PINS 8 #define TOTAL_DIGITAL_PINS 51 #define TOTAL_PORTS 7 // total number of ports for the board #define ANALOG_PORT 5 // port# of analog used as digital #define FIRST_ANALOG_PIN40 // pin# corresponding to analog 0 #define VERSION_BLINK_PIN 48 // digital pin to blink version on #define FIRST_SERVO_PIN 8 // pin# of the first servo pin #elif defined(__AVR_AT90USB162__) // Teensy #define TOTAL_ANALOG_PINS 0 #define TOTAL_DIGITAL_PINS 21 // 21 digital + no analog #define TOTAL_PORTS 4 // total number of ports for the board #define ANALOG_PORT 3 // port# of analog used as digital #define FIRST_ANALOG_PIN21 // pin# corresponding to analog 0 #define VERSION_BLINK_PIN 6 // digital pin to blink version on #elif defined(__AVR_ATmega32U4__) // Teensy #define TOTAL_ANALOG_PINS 12 #define TOTAL_DIGITAL_PINS 25 // 11 digital + 12 analog #define TOTAL_PORTS 4 // total number of ports for the board #define ANALOG_PORT 3 // port# of analog used as digital #define FIRST_ANALOG_PIN11 // pin# corresponding to analog 0 #define VERSION_BLINK_PIN 11 // digital pin to blink version on #elif defined(__AVR_AT90USB646__) || defined(__AVR_AT90USB1286__) // Teensy++ #define TOTAL_ANALOG_PINS 8 #define TOTAL_DIGITAL_PINS 46 // 38 digital + 8 analog #define TOTAL_PORTS 6 // total number of ports for the board #define ANALOG_PORT 5 // port# of analog used as digital #define FIRST_ANALOG_PIN38 // pin# corresponding to analog 0 #define VERSION_BLINK_PIN 6 // digital pin to blink version on #elif defined(__AVR_ATmega644P__) || defined(__AVR_ATmega644__) // Sanguino #define TOTAL_ANALOG_PINS 8 #define TOTAL_DIGITAL_PINS 32 // 24 digital + 8 analog #define TOTAL_PORTS 4 // total number of ports for the board #define ANALOG_PORT 3 // port# of analog used as digital #define FIRST_ANALOG_PIN24 // pin# corresponding
