Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!
In fact I'm working on a very similar project (called 'abunch') since a year, I hope to release it in one of the following weeks. Everything is in pd vanilla. I tried to make it as user friendly as possible, I've been testing and using it a lot in my lessons. It contains a lot of the units that you mentioned... Hans R At 16:53 12/03/2009, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: How about this project: Beginners Building Blocks. Right now, If I want to even make a simple sine oscillator synth with an ADSR envelope on it, it's not very easy to do out of the box. What if there were some entry-level abstractions in a very OBVIOUS location that people could instantly piece together some classic Unit Generators. Important for these would be the ability to copy/paste items from a main page of abstractions. Also, they should have a simple GUI interface, and possibly be set up automatically to use SSAD. I'm thinking stuff like: -basic envelope generators -basic oscillators (bandlimited ones would be nice): sine, square, triangle, sawtooth -basic i/o that is more intuitive to newbies -basic sample players (one shot, looping, pitch shifting, multi-sample a la fluidsynth) -basic MIDI controller mapping tools (so people could just twist a knob to assign a parameter) -basic step, piano roll, c sequencers -basic pitch/rhythm analysis (wrappers for sigmund~, fiddle~, and bonk~) -basic modular counters -an extensive collection of examples using these objects, documenting parameters, as well as ways to connect and/or modify and save new versions of objects using SSAD -video stuff would also be great, something akin to a freshened up PixelTango. Anyway, I just thought these things would be really nice to have in an accessible place in Pd-extended. Because right now whenever I just want to make something very simple, i end up having to click a mouse about 200 times which is annoying and makes me worried about RTS! Pd and Pd-extended are so difficult to navigate for newbies. There need to be more pick up and go audio tools. I'm thinking of how Reaktor and Max/MSP are so easy to dive into. Pd is a lot like a cold cold ocean whereas the other two are nice warm swimming pools. Pd is deeper and more exciting by far, but you can get swept away in an undertow never to return! This project could be accomplished by merging elements from NetPd, Pdmtl, and various slick patches made by the resident list geniuses. (Another thing about NetPd if Roman and Eni are listening: can you make a tar.gz or zip download of ALL current NetPd patches? I hate having to download 30+ items one at a time. RTS fears again!) So there's my way more than 2 cents. Take what you will from it. ~Kyle On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner mailto:h...@eds.orgh...@eds.org wrote: On Mar 7, 2009, at 9:51 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Sat, 2009-03-07 at 11:26 +0100, Enrique Erne wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: The Google Summer of Code ((http://code.google.com/soc/http://code.google.com/soc/) application is due very soon, March 9th, and we need mentors! At this point, you just need to put down your name. Then once the projects are in, we'll choose projects and who will mentor them. Every pd developer who wants to support the project but is not student anymore is invited to join as mentor, since the number of sponsored projects by google depends on the number of mentors and students. Andy, Claude, Frank, Marius, Mathieu, Roman where are you guys? add your names, hurry! :) yo, i am happy to add my name, but i guess it only makes sense for me to take a mentorship of a project, that is about patching and not c coding. from what i have seen, there is only one project - undead - which seems to be about patching. derek holzer is already proposed as a mentor. does it make sense to propose more then one mentor for a project? You could also create a new project based on something like creating libraries out of all that useful code in netpd. Basically, think of something that you would like implemented in Pd that you could mentor. .hc roman ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http:// http://messenger.yahoo.demessenger.yahoo.de If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it.- Thomas Jefferson ___ mailto:Pd-list@iem.atPd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-listhttp://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- -
Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!
hi Kyle i love the idea of a Classic Unit Library (CUL?) BBB - Beginners Building Blocks WSP - (Where to Start with Pd) WSP - warm swimming pool :) for me the first step would be to write some specs: - coding style guide (who did it? luke?), license, naming convention, howto contribute and also analyze existing libs: pdmtl, rjlib maybe you could even just build on them? i'd like to see the WSP Lib: - bsd - flat - super simple blackwhite interfaces - as pure as possible - a minimum of possible dependencies - not gopish ? - howto contribute? - with self explaining naming? i'm just about to upload my zipped netpd directory. http://netpd.org/eni/downloads/?C=M;O=D (8.9MB because there are some samples) eni Kyle Klipowicz wrote: How about this project: Beginners Building Blocks. Right now, If I want to even make a simple sine oscillator synth with an ADSR envelope on it, it's not very easy to do out of the box. What if there were some entry-level abstractions in a very OBVIOUS location that people could instantly piece together some classic Unit Generators. Important for these would be the ability to copy/paste items from a main page of abstractions. Also, they should have a simple GUI interface, and possibly be set up automatically to use SSAD. I'm thinking stuff like: -basic envelope generators -basic oscillators (bandlimited ones would be nice): sine, square, triangle, sawtooth -basic i/o that is more intuitive to newbies -basic sample players (one shot, looping, pitch shifting, multi-sample a la fluidsynth) -basic MIDI controller mapping tools (so people could just twist a knob to assign a parameter) -basic step, piano roll, c sequencers -basic pitch/rhythm analysis (wrappers for sigmund~, fiddle~, and bonk~) -basic modular counters -an extensive collection of examples using these objects, documenting parameters, as well as ways to connect and/or modify and save new versions of objects using SSAD -video stuff would also be great, something akin to a freshened up PixelTango. Anyway, I just thought these things would be really nice to have in an accessible place in Pd-extended. Because right now whenever I just want to make something very simple, i end up having to click a mouse about 200 times which is annoying and makes me worried about RTS! Pd and Pd-extended are so difficult to navigate for newbies. There need to be more pick up and go audio tools. I'm thinking of how Reaktor and Max/MSP are so easy to dive into. Pd is a lot like a cold cold ocean whereas the other two are nice warm swimming pools. Pd is deeper and more exciting by far, but you can get swept away in an undertow never to return! This project could be accomplished by merging elements from NetPd, Pdmtl, and various slick patches made by the resident list geniuses. (Another thing about NetPd if Roman and Eni are listening: can you make a tar.gz or zip download of ALL current NetPd patches? I hate having to download 30+ items one at a time. RTS fears again!) So there's my way more than 2 cents. Take what you will from it. ~Kyle On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.org wrote: On Mar 7, 2009, at 9:51 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Sat, 2009-03-07 at 11:26 +0100, Enrique Erne wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: The Google Summer of Code ((http://code.google.com/soc/) application is due very soon, March 9th, and we need mentors! At this point, you just need to put down your name. Then once the projects are in, we'll choose projects and who will mentor them. Every pd developer who wants to support the project but is not student anymore is invited to join as mentor, since the number of sponsored projects by google depends on the number of mentors and students. Andy, Claude, Frank, Marius, Mathieu, Roman where are you guys? add your names, hurry! :) yo, i am happy to add my name, but i guess it only makes sense for me to take a mentorship of a project, that is about patching and not c coding. from what i have seen, there is only one project - undead - which seems to be about patching. derek holzer is already proposed as a mentor. does it make sense to propose more then one mentor for a project? You could also create a new project based on something like creating libraries out of all that useful code in netpd. Basically, think of something that you would like implemented in Pd that you could mentor. .hc roman ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http:// messenger.yahoo.de If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it.-
Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!
On Fri, 13 Mar 2009, Enrique Erne wrote: - with self explaining naming? The problem with that is that long names still don't say how it works, and as people learn how it works, they don't need long names anymore, and it gets in the way a bit. What you need is not long names, it's a system so that mouseover would show the descriptions that you'd otherwise look up in help-intro.pd, and that are often missing for externals. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801, Montréal, Québec___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!
i think this idea of making a unified library of patches is fantastic. but i don't think it should be a project given to a student with little experience in pd. i'd be more than happy to help out. what would be the best way to set up communications between us, if we take this on? that would be the first step i guess. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!
Hallo, Kyle Klipowicz hat gesagt: // Kyle Klipowicz wrote: How about this project: Beginners Building Blocks. A lot of the goals you describe overlap with goals of the RjDj library, that the RjDj team (like Gunter Geiger, Amaury Hazan, Paul Brossier, myself and others) is working on. It's generally sssad-enabled and pure vanilla (even omitting expr). Some parts are specific to the targetted platform (mobile devices like iPod Touch and iPhone), so e.g. the touch screen interfacing is useless outside of that. Ciao -- Frank BarknechtDo You RjDj.me? _ __footils.org__ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!
Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Fri, 13 Mar 2009, Enrique Erne wrote: - with self explaining naming? The problem with that is that long names still don't say how it works, and as people learn how it works, they don't need long names anymore, and it gets in the way a bit. What you need is not long names, it's a system so that mouseover would show the descriptions that you'd otherwise look up in help-intro.pd, and that are often missing for externals. wasn't that tooltip feature implement in desiredata? maybe one could port this as a own GSoC project to puredata. i don't think names have to be fully self explaining, but at least that you get the clue of what the abstraction might do. rjlib and pdmtl seems pretty nice. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!
How about this project:
Beginners Building Blocks.
Right now, If I want to even make a simple sine oscillator synth with an
ADSR envelope on it, it's not very easy to do out of the box. What if there
were some entry-level abstractions in a very OBVIOUS location that people
could instantly piece together some classic Unit Generators. Important for
these would be the ability to copy/paste items from a main page of
abstractions. Also, they should have a simple GUI interface, and possibly be
set up automatically to use SSAD.
I'm thinking stuff like:
-basic envelope generators
-basic oscillators (bandlimited ones would be nice): sine, square, triangle,
sawtooth
-basic i/o that is more intuitive to newbies
-basic sample players (one shot, looping, pitch shifting, multi-sample a la
fluidsynth)
-basic MIDI controller mapping tools (so people could just twist a knob to
assign a parameter)
-basic step, piano roll, c sequencers
-basic pitch/rhythm analysis (wrappers for sigmund~, fiddle~, and bonk~)
-basic modular counters
-an extensive collection of examples using these objects, documenting
parameters, as well as ways to connect and/or modify and save new versions
of objects using SSAD
-video stuff would also be great, something akin to a freshened up
PixelTango.
Anyway, I just thought these things would be really nice to have in an
accessible place in Pd-extended. Because right now whenever I just want to
make something very simple, i end up having to click a mouse about 200 times
which is annoying and makes me worried about RTS!
Pd and Pd-extended are so difficult to navigate for newbies. There need to
be more pick up and go audio tools. I'm thinking of how Reaktor and
Max/MSP are so easy to dive into. Pd is a lot like a cold cold ocean whereas
the other two are nice warm swimming pools. Pd is deeper and more exciting
by far, but you can get swept away in an undertow never to return!
This project could be accomplished by merging elements from NetPd, Pdmtl,
and various slick patches made by the resident list geniuses. (Another thing
about NetPd if Roman and Eni are listening: can you make a tar.gz or zip
download of ALL current NetPd patches? I hate having to download 30+ items
one at a time. RTS fears again!)
So there's my way more than 2 cents. Take what you will from it.
~Kyle
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.org wrote:
On Mar 7, 2009, at 9:51 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote:
On Sat, 2009-03-07 at 11:26 +0100, Enrique Erne wrote:
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
The Google Summer of Code ((http://code.google.com/soc/) application
is due very soon, March 9th, and we need mentors! At this point,
you
just need to put down your name. Then once the projects are in,
we'll
choose projects and who will mentor them.
Every pd developer who wants to support the project but is not
student
anymore is invited to join as mentor, since the number of sponsored
projects by google depends on the number of mentors and students.
Andy, Claude, Frank, Marius, Mathieu, Roman where are you guys?
add your names, hurry! :)
yo, i am happy to add my name, but i guess it only makes sense for
me to
take a mentorship of a project, that is about patching and not c
coding.
from what i have seen, there is only one project - undead - which
seems
to be about patching. derek holzer is already proposed as a mentor.
does
it make sense to propose more then one mentor for a project?
You could also create a new project based on something like creating
libraries out of all that useful code in netpd. Basically, think of
something that you would like implemented in Pd that you could mentor.
.hc
roman
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Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!
On Mar 7, 2009, at 9:51 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Sat, 2009-03-07 at 11:26 +0100, Enrique Erne wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: The Google Summer of Code ((http://code.google.com/soc/) application is due very soon, March 9th, and we need mentors! At this point, you just need to put down your name. Then once the projects are in, we'll choose projects and who will mentor them. Every pd developer who wants to support the project but is not student anymore is invited to join as mentor, since the number of sponsored projects by google depends on the number of mentors and students. Andy, Claude, Frank, Marius, Mathieu, Roman where are you guys? add your names, hurry! :) yo, i am happy to add my name, but i guess it only makes sense for me to take a mentorship of a project, that is about patching and not c coding. from what i have seen, there is only one project - undead - which seems to be about patching. derek holzer is already proposed as a mentor. does it make sense to propose more then one mentor for a project? You could also create a new project based on something like creating libraries out of all that useful code in netpd. Basically, think of something that you would like implemented in Pd that you could mentor. .hc roman ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http:// messenger.yahoo.de If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it.- Thomas Jefferson ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!
i just added a pd patching idea, to build a library of filters. i think this idea would also work really well if merged with the 'blosc' one, because frankly $4500 for a student to make some bandlimited oscillators is pretty expensive! http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/PurePDFilters ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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Yes, sounds like a good project, add it to the wiki. Do you want to mentor it? Or if you are a student, then you could find another mentor and do it yourself. .hc On Mar 6, 2009, at 7:33 AM, bra...@subnet.at wrote: The same with me. interested in coding but just very rare skills.but patching. maybe the graphical userinterface which i started for gem could be interesting.As i am in the job now, i cannot send screenshots nor patches. if there is interest I put some things together tjis weekend. markus Hallo Derek ! Nice projects - I also think that we need more patcher-only projects ! LG Georg Derek Holzer schrieb: Since I'm completely uninterested in touching anything C, C++, TclTk or otherwise related, I submitted two Pd patching projects which should be general enough to attract students, yet quite intensive to work on. Feedback welcome. http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/Undead http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GEMVeeJay Anyone want to take up 2007's PluggoPd idea? best, D. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Access to computers should be unlimited and total. - the hacker ethic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!
On Mar 7, 2009, at 11:30 AM, marius schebella wrote: chris clepper wrote: My own suggestion for a GEM project would be to create a tutorial and accompanying manual that covers the basic operation. I was planning to do this for years now, adding to dereks FLOSS Documentation or just as a separate project. there are a lot of unsorted patches on my drive, but as someone mentioned in a response to this email, documentation is not part of GSoC... I think that we could also have books on specific topics. For example, it would be very nice to have a GLSL+Gem manual. .hc The other idea involves making the more advanced features like GLSL and framebuffer rendering easier to use. I started to port vade's old v001 last year, including abstractions to easily chain several shaders together. not finished yet because with relation to GLSL stuff, I think I am just too stupid to get it... marius. These are mainly documentation projects, but also have some Pd, and possible C++ coding as well. On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl mailto:de...@umatic.nl wrote: That's great, let's see what happens ;-) d. chris clepper wrote: I added my name to the VeeJay project to advise on how the low level stuff affects performance and stability. I don't know if a project can have more than one mentor though. On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl mailto:de...@umatic.nl mailto:de...@umatic.nl mailto:de...@umatic.nl wrote: Since I'm completely uninterested in touching anything C, C++, TclTk or otherwise related, I submitted two Pd patching projects which should be general enough to attract students, yet quite intensive to work on. Feedback welcome. http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/Undead http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GEMVeeJay Anyone want to take up 2007's PluggoPd idea? best, D. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ---Oblique Strategy # 194: Steal a solution. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ---Oblique Strategy # 83: How would someone else do it? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list The arc of history bends towards justice. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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I think we need to have a range of projects, from simple to complicated, so that we get a range of students. I would really like to have a solid, clean, easy to use blosc lib, so I think it would be worth it. Plus the devil is in the details on this one. Its not too hard to put together a demo of this library, but I think to really get it right and done is non-trivial. .hc On Mar 8, 2009, at 10:13 AM, hard off wrote: i just added a pd patching idea, to build a library of filters. i think this idea would also work really well if merged with the 'blosc' one, because frankly $4500 for a student to make some bandlimited oscillators is pretty expensive! http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/PurePDFilters ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list News is what people want to keep hidden and everything else is publicity. - Bill Moyers ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Mar 7, 2009, at 11:30 AM, marius schebella wrote: chris clepper wrote: My own suggestion for a GEM project would be to create a tutorial and accompanying manual that covers the basic operation. I was planning to do this for years now, adding to dereks FLOSS Documentation or just as a separate project. there are a lot of unsorted patches on my drive, but as someone mentioned in a response to this email, documentation is not part of GSoC... I think that we could also have books on specific topics. For example, it would be very nice to have a GLSL+Gem manual. oh, that reminds me that the gl_MultiTexCoord1-8 stuff is still broken. fixing that bug would be worth a GSoC project. marius. The other idea involves making the more advanced features like GLSL and framebuffer rendering easier to use. I started to port vade's old v001 last year, including abstractions to easily chain several shaders together. not finished yet because with relation to GLSL stuff, I think I am just too stupid to get it... marius. These are mainly documentation projects, but also have some Pd, and possible C++ coding as well. On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl mailto:de...@umatic.nl wrote: That's great, let's see what happens ;-) d. chris clepper wrote: I added my name to the VeeJay project to advise on how the low level stuff affects performance and stability. I don't know if a project can have more than one mentor though. On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl mailto:de...@umatic.nl mailto:de...@umatic.nl mailto:de...@umatic.nl wrote: Since I'm completely uninterested in touching anything C, C++, TclTk or otherwise related, I submitted two Pd patching projects which should be general enough to attract students, yet quite intensive to work on. Feedback welcome. http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/Undead http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GEMVeeJay Anyone want to take up 2007's PluggoPd idea? best, D. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ---Oblique Strategy # 194: Steal a solution. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ---Oblique Strategy # 83: How would someone else do it? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list The arc of history bends towards justice. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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Hallo! i added my name to two existing projects matching my competences. Just in case Georg is too busy with all the other ones he is part of. Yes of course, feel free to add you to the projects ! I think we should have at least two mentors for each project, at least for the application now. LG Georg ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: The Google Summer of Code ((http://code.google.com/soc/) application is due very soon, March 9th, and we need mentors! At this point, you just need to put down your name. Then once the projects are in, we'll choose projects and who will mentor them. Every pd developer who wants to support the project but is not student anymore is invited to join as mentor, since the number of sponsored projects by google depends on the number of mentors and students. Andy, Claude, Frank, Marius, Mathieu, Roman where are you guys? add your names, hurry! :) http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GSoCOrganizationApp2009 @both Chris's and Derek your names and gmail account are missing!! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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On Sat, 2009-03-07 at 11:26 +0100, Enrique Erne wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: The Google Summer of Code ((http://code.google.com/soc/) application is due very soon, March 9th, and we need mentors! At this point, you just need to put down your name. Then once the projects are in, we'll choose projects and who will mentor them. Every pd developer who wants to support the project but is not student anymore is invited to join as mentor, since the number of sponsored projects by google depends on the number of mentors and students. Andy, Claude, Frank, Marius, Mathieu, Roman where are you guys? add your names, hurry! :) yo, i am happy to add my name, but i guess it only makes sense for me to take a mentorship of a project, that is about patching and not c coding. from what i have seen, there is only one project - undead - which seems to be about patching. derek holzer is already proposed as a mentor. does it make sense to propose more then one mentor for a project? roman ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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Hi Roman, actually GEMVeeJay is also a patching project. But yes, either propose a new project (the more the better!!!) or sign up as proposed mentor for Undead or GEMVeeJay. Having spare mentor shouldn't be a problem, I think the idea was to have two possible mentors for each one... best, D. Roman Haefeli wrote: On Sat, 2009-03-07 at 11:26 +0100, Enrique Erne wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: The Google Summer of Code ((http://code.google.com/soc/) application is due very soon, March 9th, and we need mentors! At this point, you just need to put down your name. Then once the projects are in, we'll choose projects and who will mentor them. Every pd developer who wants to support the project but is not student anymore is invited to join as mentor, since the number of sponsored projects by google depends on the number of mentors and students. Andy, Claude, Frank, Marius, Mathieu, Roman where are you guys? add your names, hurry! :) yo, i am happy to add my name, but i guess it only makes sense for me to take a mentorship of a project, that is about patching and not c coding. from what i have seen, there is only one project - undead - which seems to be about patching. derek holzer is already proposed as a mentor. does it make sense to propose more then one mentor for a project? roman ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ---Oblique Strategy # 109: Lost in useless territory ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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On Sat, 7 Mar 2009, Enrique Erne wrote: Andy, Claude, Frank, Marius, Mathieu, Roman where are you guys? Where should I be? add your names, hurry! :) Why should I add my name? _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801, Montréal, Québec___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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Enrique Erne wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: The Google Summer of Code ((http://code.google.com/soc/) application is due very soon, March 9th, and we need mentors! At this point, you just need to put down your name. Then once the projects are in, we'll choose projects and who will mentor them. Every pd developer who wants to support the project but is not student anymore is invited to join as mentor, since the number of sponsored projects by google depends on the number of mentors and students. Andy, Claude, Frank, Marius, Mathieu, Roman where are you guys? I am over here, banging my head against the wall, because I am working on too many things at the same time... marius. add your names, hurry! :) http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GSoCOrganizationApp2009 @both Chris's and Derek your names and gmail account are missing!! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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Sorry for the silence, I am quite busy at the moment, but to explain the situation viz GSoC mentoring, Google unilaterally and without warning disabled my account. Attempts to contact Google to remedy this result in a cul-de-sac web form that refuses to accept the email I registered with. I would very much like to offer my help to mentor students on Pd projects, but I don't have time to bang my head against a wall of listless corporate ambivalence. If any students want help on Pd audio related matters, as per normal please don't hesitate to contact me at the usual address. On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 10:27:39 -0500 (EST) Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: On Sat, 7 Mar 2009, Enrique Erne wrote: Andy, Claude, Frank, Marius, Mathieu, Roman where are you guys? Where should I be? add your names, hurry! :) Why should I add my name? _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801, Montréal, Québec -- Use the source ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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chris clepper wrote: My own suggestion for a GEM project would be to create a tutorial and accompanying manual that covers the basic operation. I was planning to do this for years now, adding to dereks FLOSS Documentation or just as a separate project. there are a lot of unsorted patches on my drive, but as someone mentioned in a response to this email, documentation is not part of GSoC... The other idea involves making the more advanced features like GLSL and framebuffer rendering easier to use. I started to port vade's old v001 last year, including abstractions to easily chain several shaders together. not finished yet because with relation to GLSL stuff, I think I am just too stupid to get it... marius. These are mainly documentation projects, but also have some Pd, and possible C++ coding as well. On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl mailto:de...@umatic.nl wrote: That's great, let's see what happens ;-) d. chris clepper wrote: I added my name to the VeeJay project to advise on how the low level stuff affects performance and stability. I don't know if a project can have more than one mentor though. On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl mailto:de...@umatic.nl mailto:de...@umatic.nl mailto:de...@umatic.nl wrote: Since I'm completely uninterested in touching anything C, C++, TclTk or otherwise related, I submitted two Pd patching projects which should be general enough to attract students, yet quite intensive to work on. Feedback welcome. http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/Undead http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GEMVeeJay Anyone want to take up 2007's PluggoPd idea? best, D. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ---Oblique Strategy # 194: Steal a solution. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ---Oblique Strategy # 83: How would someone else do it? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Sat, 7 Mar 2009, Enrique Erne wrote: Andy, Claude, Frank, Marius, Mathieu, Roman where are you guys? Where should I be? add your names, hurry! :) Why should I add my name? you could be mentor for a project. how about LibPDEngine? :) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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On Sat, 7 Mar 2009, Enrique Erne wrote: Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Why should I add my name? you could be mentor for a project. I mean, why should I be mentor for a project? how about LibPDEngine? :) That's not really related to anything I do. Well, I did a quick test of making and using libpd.so in DD, but I didn't have any real use for this in mind. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801, Montréal, Québec___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Sat, 7 Mar 2009, Enrique Erne wrote: how about LibPDEngine? :) That's not really related to anything I do. Well, I did a quick test of making and using libpd.so in DD, but I didn't have any real use for this in mind. is there any reason why you shouldn't be a mentor for a project? it's easy to setup a gmail account :) what about MoreGUIs since that is kind of related to DD, isn't it? even though it has already 2 mentors... the more the better right? i just picked randomly a few names of people, who are pretty active on this list and have great knowledge. it seems a pretty opportunity to add a project of your choice and add yourself as a mentor. you can only win or not? eni ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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On Sat, 7 Mar 2009, Enrique Erne wrote: what about MoreGUIs since that is kind of related to DD, isn't it? Due to the GUI API being used by that project proposal, no, it's probably less related to DD than most any other GSoC submission. I mean, it's negatively related, whereas other proposals are just neutral towards it. even though it has already 2 mentors... the more the better right? Well, after 2 applicants, it doesn't really matter. It's not like both are going to desist. Only one gets to be the mentor, in the end. it seems a pretty opportunity to add a project of your choice and add yourself as a mentor. you can only win or not? I have no idea what I could submit, that could be reasonably accepted and that could be reasonably completed by an unspecified student. So, what was the outcome of the previously accepted projects? Were the goals completed? How did it happen? I don't really recall reading about this. How do students get chosen? _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801, Montréal, Québec___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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ola, Well, after 2 applicants, it doesn't really matter. It's not like both are going to desist. Only one gets to be the mentor, in the end. hey you're almost as a bad as as me. i would say 'fuck off corporate google collaborating on censorship in china', and 'you're still in a mentor/students relationship model, wow, 18th century' oops, can i ask to noone to make pdp run on windows ? and to windows to run a bulldozer, thanks sevy ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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oh sorry, have to add we had a good laugh with alexei shulguin once saying 'Google is GOD' i find it more accurate now xiaoo, sevy ydego...@gmail.com wrote: ola, Well, after 2 applicants, it doesn't really matter. It's not like both are going to desist. Only one gets to be the mentor, in the end. hey you're almost as a bad as as me. i would say 'fuck off corporate google collaborating on censorship in china', and 'you're still in a mentor/students relationship model, wow, 18th century' oops, can i ask to noone to make pdp run on windows ? and to windows to run a bulldozer, thanks sevy ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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On Sun, 8 Mar 2009, ydego...@gmail.com wrote: hey you're almost as a bad as as me. I didn't want any of your mail, I don't want any of your mail, and I won't want any of your mail. that's all. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801, Montréal, Québec___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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sorry, the subject of the mail was : 'why should i collaborate with google?' not : 'why should i speak to señor bouchard?' right? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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Since I'm completely uninterested in touching anything C, C++, TclTk or otherwise related, I submitted two Pd patching projects which should be general enough to attract students, yet quite intensive to work on. Feedback welcome. http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/Undead http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GEMVeeJay Anyone want to take up 2007's PluggoPd idea? best, D. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ---Oblique Strategy # 194: Steal a solution. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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Hallo Derek ! Nice projects - I also think that we need more patcher-only projects ! LG Georg Derek Holzer schrieb: Since I'm completely uninterested in touching anything C, C++, TclTk or otherwise related, I submitted two Pd patching projects which should be general enough to attract students, yet quite intensive to work on. Feedback welcome. http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/Undead http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GEMVeeJay Anyone want to take up 2007's PluggoPd idea? best, D. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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The same with me. interested in coding but just very rare skills.but patching. maybe the graphical userinterface which i started for gem could be interesting.As i am in the job now, i cannot send screenshots nor patches. if there is interest I put some things together tjis weekend. markus Hallo Derek ! Nice projects - I also think that we need more patcher-only projects ! LG Georg Derek Holzer schrieb: Since I'm completely uninterested in touching anything C, C++, TclTk or otherwise related, I submitted two Pd patching projects which should be general enough to attract students, yet quite intensive to work on. Feedback welcome. http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/Undead http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GEMVeeJay Anyone want to take up 2007's PluggoPd idea? best, D. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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Hallo Markus ! The same with me. interested in coding but just very rare skills.but patching. maybe the graphical userinterface which i started for gem could be interesting.As i am in the job now, i cannot send screenshots nor patches. if there is interest I put some things together tjis weekend. Yes of course - just put it on the wiki ! LG Georg ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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Hi all, i added my name to two existing projects matching my competences. Just in case Georg is too busy with all the other ones he is part of. gr~~~ Am 03.03.2009 um 21:23 schrieb Georg Holzmann: Hallo again ! I added now quite some projects from last year to the WIKI page: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GoogleSummerOfCodeIdeas2009 Please look through them and correct my bad english and/or add additional resources and ideas ! @Hans: I added you to some projects as mentor, I hope you don't mind ;) @IOhannes: same for you ;) - but you can of course join more projects (now I added you only to the gem multiwindow project, because here you are the only possible author) To all other mentors: please add you to the wiki and also add projects ! Thanks, LG Georg Georg Holzmann schrieb: Hallo! I started to put ideas together at the following WIKI page: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GoogleSummerOfCodeIdeas2009 If you are interested joining one project as a mentor, please just add your name in the list of possible mentors ... Please also add your projects using the following template: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/ProjectTemplate (and look at the description of my already added projects) It should be as clear as possible for students how to start, where are the resources and etc. There are also still a lot of old projects from last year here: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GoogleSummerOfCodeIdeas which should be copied (and polished) to the new WIKI page - so some help is really needed ! Thanks for any contribution, LG Georg Hans-Christoph Steiner schrieb: Hey all, The Google Summer of Code ((http://code.google.com/soc/) application is due very soon, March 9th, and we need mentors! At this point, you just need to put down your name. Then once the projects are in, we'll choose projects and who will mentor them. You will then work with a student, either locally or remotely. Every pd developer who wants to support the project but is not student anymore is invited to join as mentor, since the number of sponsored projects by google depends on the number of mentors and students. If you are a student, then you should apply as a student to get funded. Mentors get $500 and students get $4500 for working on something Pd related. .hc It is convenient to imagine a power beyond us because that means we don't have to examine our own lives., from The Idols of Environmentalism, by Curtis White ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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I added my name to the VeeJay project to advise on how the low level stuff affects performance and stability. I don't know if a project can have more than one mentor though. On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl wrote: Since I'm completely uninterested in touching anything C, C++, TclTk or otherwise related, I submitted two Pd patching projects which should be general enough to attract students, yet quite intensive to work on. Feedback welcome. http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/Undead http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GEMVeeJay Anyone want to take up 2007's PluggoPd idea? best, D. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ---Oblique Strategy # 194: Steal a solution. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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That's great, let's see what happens ;-) d. chris clepper wrote: I added my name to the VeeJay project to advise on how the low level stuff affects performance and stability. I don't know if a project can have more than one mentor though. On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl mailto:de...@umatic.nl wrote: Since I'm completely uninterested in touching anything C, C++, TclTk or otherwise related, I submitted two Pd patching projects which should be general enough to attract students, yet quite intensive to work on. Feedback welcome. http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/Undead http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GEMVeeJay Anyone want to take up 2007's PluggoPd idea? best, D. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ---Oblique Strategy # 194: Steal a solution. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ---Oblique Strategy # 83: How would someone else do it? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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My own suggestion for a GEM project would be to create a tutorial and accompanying manual that covers the basic operation. The other idea involves making the more advanced features like GLSL and framebuffer rendering easier to use. These are mainly documentation projects, but also have some Pd, and possible C++ coding as well. On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl wrote: That's great, let's see what happens ;-) d. chris clepper wrote: I added my name to the VeeJay project to advise on how the low level stuff affects performance and stability. I don't know if a project can have more than one mentor though. On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl mailto: de...@umatic.nl wrote: Since I'm completely uninterested in touching anything C, C++, TclTk or otherwise related, I submitted two Pd patching projects which should be general enough to attract students, yet quite intensive to work on. Feedback welcome. http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/Undead http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GEMVeeJay Anyone want to take up 2007's PluggoPd idea? best, D. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ---Oblique Strategy # 194: Steal a solution. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ---Oblique Strategy # 83: How would someone else do it? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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I already asked, and GSoC doesn't cover documentation, or else I would have pitched the Pd FLOSS Manual in there as well. But go for it with the GLSL/framebuffer coding stuff! d. chris clepper wrote: My own suggestion for a GEM project would be to create a tutorial and accompanying manual that covers the basic operation. The other idea involves making the more advanced features like GLSL and framebuffer rendering easier to use. These are mainly documentation projects, but also have some Pd, and possible C++ coding as well. On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl mailto:de...@umatic.nl wrote: That's great, let's see what happens ;-) d. chris clepper wrote: I added my name to the VeeJay project to advise on how the low level stuff affects performance and stability. I don't know if a project can have more than one mentor though. On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl mailto:de...@umatic.nl mailto:de...@umatic.nl mailto:de...@umatic.nl wrote: Since I'm completely uninterested in touching anything C, C++, TclTk or otherwise related, I submitted two Pd patching projects which should be general enough to attract students, yet quite intensive to work on. Feedback welcome. http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/Undead http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GEMVeeJay Anyone want to take up 2007's PluggoPd idea? best, D. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ---Oblique Strategy # 194: Steal a solution. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ---Oblique Strategy # 83: How would someone else do it? -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ---Oblique Strategy # 64: Don't stress one thing more than another ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl wrote: I already asked, and GSoC doesn't cover documentation, or else I would have pitched the Pd FLOSS Manual in there as well. But go for it with the GLSL/framebuffer coding stuff! That is really a shame since most open source projects need way more documentation done than coding. Maybe they will have a Winter of Docs? chris clepper wrote: My own suggestion for a GEM project would be to create a tutorial and accompanying manual that covers the basic operation. The other idea involves making the more advanced features like GLSL and framebuffer rendering easier to use. These are mainly documentation projects, but also have some Pd, and possible C++ coding as well. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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Agreed in full, my wish too d. chris clepper wrote: On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl mailto:de...@umatic.nl wrote: I already asked, and GSoC doesn't cover documentation, or else I would have pitched the Pd FLOSS Manual in there as well. But go for it with the GLSL/framebuffer coding stuff! That is really a shame since most open source projects need way more documentation done than coding. Maybe they will have a Winter of Docs? chris clepper wrote: My own suggestion for a GEM project would be to create a tutorial and accompanying manual that covers the basic operation. The other idea involves making the more advanced features like GLSL and framebuffer rendering easier to use. These are mainly documentation projects, but also have some Pd, and possible C++ coding as well. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ---Oblique Strategy # 88: Imagine the music as a set of disconnected events ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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True that! I would be way more useful writing documentation than code. If
there was an opportunity like GSoC for that, I'd jump on it.
~Kyle
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:04 AM, chris clepper cgclep...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl wrote:
I already asked, and GSoC doesn't cover documentation, or else I would
have pitched the Pd FLOSS Manual in there as well. But go for it with the
GLSL/framebuffer coding stuff!
That is really a shame since most open source projects need way more
documentation done than coding. Maybe they will have a Winter of Docs?
chris clepper wrote:
My own suggestion for a GEM project would be to create a tutorial and
accompanying manual that covers the basic operation. The other idea
involves making the more advanced features like GLSL and framebuffer
rendering easier to use. These are mainly documentation projects, but also
have some Pd, and possible C++ coding as well.
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Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!
Yes, that's a great project. Add it to the wiki! .hc On Mar 4, 2009, at 7:52 PM, danomatika wrote: Do you think a valid project would be to debug pd / pd-extended 64 bit builds? After losing a few days trying to get a solid 64 build of pd+externals, I'm a bit disappointed at the current state. It's something rather boring, but would be quite useful for the future ... the next OSX (Snow Leaopard), for instance will be natively 64bit. (I assume for asking the question, I would need to be the mentor?) --- Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list [W]e have invented the technology to eliminate scarcity, but we are deliberately throwing it away to benefit those who profit from scarcity.-John Gilmore ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!
Ok, I added it to the project wiki: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/Debug64Bit On Thu, 2009-03-05 at 15:38 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Yes, that's a great project. Add it to the wiki! .hc On Mar 4, 2009, at 7:52 PM, danomatika wrote: Do you think a valid project would be to debug pd / pd-extended 64 bit builds? After losing a few days trying to get a solid 64 build of pd+externals, I'm a bit disappointed at the current state. It's something rather boring, but would be quite useful for the future ... the next OSX (Snow Leaopard), for instance will be natively 64bit. (I assume for asking the question, I would need to be the mentor?) --- Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list [W]e have invented the technology to eliminate scarcity, but we are deliberately throwing it away to benefit those who profit from scarcity.-John Gilmore --- Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!
Wow, nice, very thorough. I think this wiki will end up being a good reference for people who want to take on projects no matter if we get it or now. Dan, could you add your name and gmail account to the list of mentors (yes, it has to be gmail): http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GSoCOrganizationApp2009 .hc On Mar 5, 2009, at 6:06 PM, danomatika wrote: Ok, I added it to the project wiki: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/Debug64Bit On Thu, 2009-03-05 at 15:38 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Yes, that's a great project. Add it to the wiki! .hc On Mar 4, 2009, at 7:52 PM, danomatika wrote: Do you think a valid project would be to debug pd / pd-extended 64 bit builds? After losing a few days trying to get a solid 64 build of pd+externals, I'm a bit disappointed at the current state. It's something rather boring, but would be quite useful for the future ... the next OSX (Snow Leaopard), for instance will be natively 64bit. (I assume for asking the question, I would need to be the mentor?) --- Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list [W]e have invented the technology to eliminate scarcity, but we are deliberately throwing it away to benefit those who profit from scarcity.-John Gilmore --- Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a more direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in practice, it can change entire economies. - Amy Smith ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!
Do you think a valid project would be to debug pd / pd-extended 64 bit builds? After losing a few days trying to get a solid 64 build of pd +externals, I'm a bit disappointed at the current state. It's something rather boring, but would be quite useful for the future ... the next OSX (Snow Leaopard), for instance will be natively 64bit. (I assume for asking the question, I would need to be the mentor?) --- Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!
Hey all, The Google Summer of Code ((http://code.google.com/soc/) application is due very soon, March 9th, and we need mentors! At this point, you just need to put down your name. Then once the projects are in, we'll choose projects and who will mentor them. You will then work with a student, either locally or remotely. Every pd developer who wants to support the project but is not student anymore is invited to join as mentor, since the number of sponsored projects by google depends on the number of mentors and students. If you are a student, then you should apply as a student to get funded. Mentors get $500 and students get $4500 for working on something Pd related. .hc It is convenient to imagine a power beyond us because that means we don't have to examine our own lives., from The Idols of Environmentalism, by Curtis White ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!
Hallo! I started to put ideas together at the following WIKI page: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GoogleSummerOfCodeIdeas2009 If you are interested joining one project as a mentor, please just add your name in the list of possible mentors ... Please also add your projects using the following template: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/ProjectTemplate (and look at the description of my already added projects) It should be as clear as possible for students how to start, where are the resources and etc. There are also still a lot of old projects from last year here: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GoogleSummerOfCodeIdeas which should be copied (and polished) to the new WIKI page - so some help is really needed ! Thanks for any contribution, LG Georg Hans-Christoph Steiner schrieb: Hey all, The Google Summer of Code ((http://code.google.com/soc/) application is due very soon, March 9th, and we need mentors! At this point, you just need to put down your name. Then once the projects are in, we'll choose projects and who will mentor them. You will then work with a student, either locally or remotely. Every pd developer who wants to support the project but is not student anymore is invited to join as mentor, since the number of sponsored projects by google depends on the number of mentors and students. If you are a student, then you should apply as a student to get funded. Mentors get $500 and students get $4500 for working on something Pd related. .hc It is convenient to imagine a power beyond us because that means we don't have to examine our own lives., from The Idols of Environmentalism, by Curtis White ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!
Hallo again ! I added now quite some projects from last year to the WIKI page: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GoogleSummerOfCodeIdeas2009 Please look through them and correct my bad english and/or add additional resources and ideas ! @Hans: I added you to some projects as mentor, I hope you don't mind ;) @IOhannes: same for you ;) - but you can of course join more projects (now I added you only to the gem multiwindow project, because here you are the only possible author) To all other mentors: please add you to the wiki and also add projects ! Thanks, LG Georg Georg Holzmann schrieb: Hallo! I started to put ideas together at the following WIKI page: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GoogleSummerOfCodeIdeas2009 If you are interested joining one project as a mentor, please just add your name in the list of possible mentors ... Please also add your projects using the following template: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/ProjectTemplate (and look at the description of my already added projects) It should be as clear as possible for students how to start, where are the resources and etc. There are also still a lot of old projects from last year here: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GoogleSummerOfCodeIdeas which should be copied (and polished) to the new WIKI page - so some help is really needed ! Thanks for any contribution, LG Georg Hans-Christoph Steiner schrieb: Hey all, The Google Summer of Code ((http://code.google.com/soc/) application is due very soon, March 9th, and we need mentors! At this point, you just need to put down your name. Then once the projects are in, we'll choose projects and who will mentor them. You will then work with a student, either locally or remotely. Every pd developer who wants to support the project but is not student anymore is invited to join as mentor, since the number of sponsored projects by google depends on the number of mentors and students. If you are a student, then you should apply as a student to get funded. Mentors get $500 and students get $4500 for working on something Pd related. .hc It is convenient to imagine a power beyond us because that means we don't have to examine our own lives., from The Idols of Environmentalism, by Curtis White ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
