Re: [PD] jack and callbacks

[Peter P.]

* pured...@11h11.com  [2014-03-04 23:05]:
> Trying to have the lowest latency with Jack / Linux / 64bit / RT
> kernel / 48000 / 3 / 64.
> So should I use this too?
Best see for yourself if it has an advantage on your system or not.
Seems hard to give a generaizable recommendation on using it or not.

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Re: [PD] jack and callbacks

[puredata]

Trying to have the lowest latency with Jack / Linux / 64bit / RT  
kernel / 48000 / 3 / 64.

So should I use this too?

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Re: [PD] jack and callbacks

[Peter P.]

Hi,

* Miller Puckette  [2014-03-04 04:16]:
> The "callback" flag instructs the Pd scheduler to run within callbacks
> from the audio system; otherwise the audio system might still be opened
> in callback mode (in portaudio or jack) or not (in alsa or mmio) but if
> yes, the scheduler and the callback routine communicate via FIFOs... I chose
> whichever seemed to allow the lowest latency, which depends on the system.

Yes, it is good to have that choice. Is there a way to enable this
worthy parameter from the command line or perhaps a way of setting it
statically, maybe in s_audio_jack.c?

all the best,
P

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Re: [PD] jack and callbacks

[Miller Puckette]

The "callback" flag instructs the Pd scheduler to run within callbacks
from the audio system; otherwise the audio system might still be opened
in callback mode (in portaudio or jack) or not (in alsa or mmio) but if
yes, the scheduler and the callback routine communicate via FIFOs... I chose
whichever seemed to allow the lowest latency, which depends on the system.

cheers
M

On Mon, Mar 03, 2014 at 08:23:07PM -0500, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> On 03/03/2014 07:44 PM, Peter P. wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >just learned that my Pd vanilla Pd-0.45.0 from Miller's Git sources
> >works "much better" (less drop outs, etc) under jack when enabling
> >"use callbacks".
> >
> >Is there a way to enable this worthy parameter from the command line?
> >Perhaps a way of setting it statically, maybe in s_audio_jack.c ?
> 
> Is there any documentation about "enable callbacks" outside of being
> littered throughout the list?
> 
> Two more questions:
> Isn't Jack's API callback-based?  What does it mean to use Jack
> without enabling callbacks?
> 
> -Jonathan
> 
> >
> >Thank you and enjoy!
> >Peter
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Re: [PD] jack and callbacks

[Jonathan Wilkes]

On 03/03/2014 07:44 PM, Peter P. wrote:

Hi,

just learned that my Pd vanilla Pd-0.45.0 from Miller's Git sources
works "much better" (less drop outs, etc) under jack when enabling
"use callbacks".

Is there a way to enable this worthy parameter from the command line?
Perhaps a way of setting it statically, maybe in s_audio_jack.c ?


Is there any documentation about "enable callbacks" outside of being 
littered throughout the list?


Two more questions:
Isn't Jack's API callback-based?  What does it mean to use Jack without 
enabling callbacks?


-Jonathan



Thank you and enjoy!
Peter

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Re: [PD] jack periods 32 = no pd

[Winfried Ritsch]

Hello,

I just got to my old computer in my atelier which such a card. Code was 
written 2003 where no HDSPe was available, mainly to use more than one RME9652 
card with low latency, nowadays this can be done also with other methods 
(jackd). 

mmap access is working ok on my computer (I don't use rt-patched kernels, 
mostly never needed), anyway it sets the buffer it get closest to fulfill the 
audiobuf settings, ..., hmm, ... but it doesn't, instead uses always the 
smallest one: the sys_blocksize=64, using 128 (minimum of card). So if your 
computer is to slow it will make bad sound:

  pdsyschedadvance=6000 us(264 Samples)so buffertime max should be this=0or 
sys_blocksize=64 (samples) to use buffersize=64

don't know why this bug never was detected, amyway with bigger -blocksize 
maybe bigger audiobufs works.

I will inspect this more next week and see if I can propse a patch.

mfg
 winfried

PS: Anyway its great it's works somehow after 10years without code change 
;-)))

Am Dienstag, 28. Januar 2014, 21:24:43 schrieb Miller Puckette:
> OK... that's really quite strange indeed.  FWIW the 'mmap' alsa code, as
> far as I know, is only selected for RME devices.  I don't have any of those
> handy so have little way to check any of this on my end.  It was written by
> Winfried Ritsch a decade or more ago :)
> 
> Miller
> 
> > Made a latency test with pd's own latency testing patch
> > /usr/local/lib/pd/doc/7.stuff/tools/latency.pd
> > 
> > -alsa -rt -audiobuf 2 -channels 18 on an HDSPe card with Multiface and
> > a loopback analogue cable gives 6.5ms, which I consider great!
> > 
> > Interestingly Pd gives this latency value regardless of setting
> > -audiobuf to values 1-6, which I suppose is because of rounding this
> > value to something usable by the dsp part. Pd also reports on startup
> > "...buffer_time 2902 us opened"
> > "using mmap audio interface"
> > 
> > Now what is weird, is that I can't get clean audio under alsa with any
> > values larger than -audiobuf 6. The sound is very distorted.
> > 
> > Using the -oss emulation and -rt, clean audio is available for values
> > larger than -audiobuf 2 such as:
> > 
> > -audiobuf 3 with measured latency of 7.9ms (Pd choses blocksze 56)
> > -audiobuf 5 with measured latency of 9.4ms (Pd choses blocksze 56)
> > -audiobuf 6 with measured latency of 10.9ms (Pd choses blocksze 56)
> > and so on.
> > 
> > Oh this is on a Debian system running kernel 3.2.0-4-rt-amd64
> > 
> > Nice that Pd can do so low latencies, but that's a strange thing about
> > alsa though...
> > 
> > > best, P
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Re: [PD] jack periods 32 = no pd

[Miller Puckette]

OK... that's really quite strange indeed.  FWIW the 'mmap' alsa code, as
far as I know, is only selected for RME devices.  I don't have any of those
handy so have little way to check any of this on my end.  It was written by
Winfried Ritsch a decade or more ago :)

Miller

> 
> Made a latency test with pd's own latency testing patch 
> /usr/local/lib/pd/doc/7.stuff/tools/latency.pd
> 
> -alsa -rt -audiobuf 2 -channels 18 on an HDSPe card with Multiface and
> a loopback analogue cable gives 6.5ms, which I consider great!
> 
> Interestingly Pd gives this latency value regardless of setting
> -audiobuf to values 1-6, which I suppose is because of rounding this
> value to something usable by the dsp part. Pd also reports on startup
> "...buffer_time 2902 us opened"
> "using mmap audio interface"
> 
> Now what is weird, is that I can't get clean audio under alsa with any
> values larger than -audiobuf 6. The sound is very distorted.
> 
> Using the -oss emulation and -rt, clean audio is available for values larger
> than -audiobuf 2 such as:
> 
> -audiobuf 3 with measured latency of 7.9ms (Pd choses blocksze 56)
> -audiobuf 5 with measured latency of 9.4ms (Pd choses blocksze 56)
> -audiobuf 6 with measured latency of 10.9ms (Pd choses blocksze 56)
> and so on.
> 
> Oh this is on a Debian system running kernel 3.2.0-4-rt-amd64
> 
> Nice that Pd can do so low latencies, but that's a strange thing about alsa 
> though...
> > 
> > best, P
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Re: [PD] jack periods 32 = no pd

[Peter P.]

* Peter P.  [2014-01-28 00:35]:
> * Miller Puckette  [2014-01-28 00:02]:
> > Probably that's so - but Pd should still be able to deal with the mismatch.
> > OTOH, since Pd is built-in 64 blocksize, you wouldn't be able to reduce Pd's
> > latency by reducing jack's blocksize below 64.
> Allright, then I can live without going lower.
>  
> > I'm not sure about this, but I believe that Pd running standalone (using 
> > ALSA
> > driver) can achieve as low or perhaps slightly lower latency than Pd running
> > under jack.  This is only of interest if Pd's the only audio application
> > you're running on that particular audio interface, however.
> I can currently start pd using
> -alsa -rt -audiobuf 2
> and get click-free performance, as long as I don't the classic "Select
> all.." and move things around in Tcl/Tk, which of course causes
> drop-outs. Haven't measured latency with that setup yet, but it sure
> sounds promising. Using the oss emulation of alsa works too, but
> slightly more clicks when moving objects on the canvas.

Made a latency test with pd's own latency testing patch 
/usr/local/lib/pd/doc/7.stuff/tools/latency.pd

-alsa -rt -audiobuf 2 -channels 18 on an HDSPe card with Multiface and
a loopback analogue cable gives 6.5ms, which I consider great!

Interestingly Pd gives this latency value regardless of setting
-audiobuf to values 1-6, which I suppose is because of rounding this
value to something usable by the dsp part. Pd also reports on startup
"...buffer_time 2902 us opened"
"using mmap audio interface"

Now what is weird, is that I can't get clean audio under alsa with any
values larger than -audiobuf 6. The sound is very distorted.

Using the -oss emulation and -rt, clean audio is available for values larger
than -audiobuf 2 such as:

-audiobuf 3 with measured latency of 7.9ms (Pd choses blocksze 56)
-audiobuf 5 with measured latency of 9.4ms (Pd choses blocksze 56)
-audiobuf 6 with measured latency of 10.9ms (Pd choses blocksze 56)
and so on.

Oh this is on a Debian system running kernel 3.2.0-4-rt-amd64

Nice that Pd can do so low latencies, but that's a strange thing about alsa 
though...
> 
> best, P
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Re: [PD] jack periods 32 = no pd

[Peter P.]

* Miller Puckette  [2014-01-28 00:02]:
> Probably that's so - but Pd should still be able to deal with the mismatch.
> OTOH, since Pd is built-in 64 blocksize, you wouldn't be able to reduce Pd's
> latency by reducing jack's blocksize below 64.
Allright, then I can live without going lower.
 
> I'm not sure about this, but I believe that Pd running standalone (using ALSA
> driver) can achieve as low or perhaps slightly lower latency than Pd running
> under jack.  This is only of interest if Pd's the only audio application
> you're running on that particular audio interface, however.
I can currently start pd using
-alsa -rt -audiobuf 2
and get click-free performance, as long as I don't the classic "Select
all.." and move things around in Tcl/Tk, which of course causes
drop-outs. Haven't measured latency with that setup yet, but it sure
sounds promising. Using the oss emulation of alsa works too, but
slightly more clicks when moving objects on the canvas.

best, P

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Re: [PD] jack periods 32 = no pd

[Miller Puckette]

Probably that's so - but Pd should still be able to deal with the mismatch.
OTOH, since Pd is built-in 64 blocksize, you wouldn't be able to reduce Pd's
latency by reducing jack's blocksize below 64.

I'm not sure about this, but I believe that Pd running standalone (using ALSA
driver) can achieve as low or perhaps slightly lower latency than Pd running
under jack.  This is only of interest if Pd's the only audio application
you're running on that particular audio interface, however.

cheers
Miller

On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 12:33:43AM -0500, pured...@11h11.com wrote:
> hum i might have an idea why: is it because pd works in 64 blocks?
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Re: [PD] jack periods 32 = no pd

[puredata]

hum i might have an idea why: is it because pd works in 64 blocks?

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Re: [PD] jack periods 32 = no pd

[Peter P.]

* pured...@11h11.com  [2014-01-27 21:24]:
> pd -rt -jack -channels 2
> priority 6 scheduling enabled.
> priority 8 scheduling enabled.
> Partial read
> Partial read
> ...
> pd: malloc.c:3822: _int_malloc: Assertion `(unsigned long)(size) >=
> (unsigned long)(nb)' failed.
> Pd: signal 6
> psc@pscbox:~$ pdsend errorname: >>error writing "sock8": broken pipe<<
> pdsend errorname: >>error writing "sock8": broken pipe<<
> 

Jep, I do get lines of 

Partial read
[...]

followed by a

Segmentation fault
and
pdsend errorname: >>error writing "sock7": broken pipe<<

Here's a backtrace from within gdb:

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[Switching to Thread 0x77f9b700 (LWP 22956)]
0x76afc790 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6

(gdb) bt
#0  0x76afc790 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#1  0x004f1428 in pollprocess ()
#2  0x775d1dbf in ?? () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libjack.so.0
#3  0x77184e0e in start_thread () from
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0
#4  0x76aae0fd in clone () from
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6

I hope this is useful to anyone.

best, P

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Re: [PD] jack periods 32 = no pd

[puredata]

pd -rt -jack -channels 2
priority 6 scheduling enabled.
priority 8 scheduling enabled.
Partial read
Partial read
...
pd: malloc.c:3822: _int_malloc: Assertion `(unsigned long)(size) >=  
(unsigned long)(nb)' failed.

Pd: signal 6
psc@pscbox:~$ pdsend errorname: >>error writing "sock8": broken pipe<<
pdsend errorname: >>error writing "sock8": broken pipe<<


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Re: [PD] jack periods 32 = no pd

[Peter P.]

* pured...@11h11.com  [2014-01-27 19:54]:
> hi,
> 
> in my quest of lowering my round-trip latency, I am configuring Jack with:
> periods (buffer size): 32; nperiods: 2 / 3 (doesn't matter); rate 48000
> 
> when starting pd -rt -jack -channels 2 (-nosleep) = doesn't start.
> other applications like amsynth, JAMin doesn't have this behaviour
> (they works).
> 
> when using periods 64 then pd works.
i think I had the same problem recently, is there an error message
output, possibly to the console when you start pd with 23 periods?
Probably to the terminal upon starting pd from therein?

I didn't find a solution yet, I must say.

best, P
> 
> ?
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Esteban Viveros]

People I made a very stupid mistake..! :/ hehehehehe

Jack don't need a new pd-extended compilation to work together.
Jack run over asio driver in windows. All software with asio support
can see jackrouter in asio on driver settings.

I have tested it with pd-extended 0.43.4 windows version downloaded
today 14/03/2013 and Live 8 and Live 9.

The unique specificity is that in Live 8, we need to run all in
administrator
mode, jack and pd-extended.

ps.: in last pd-extended 0.43.4 version at this moment I can't see any
problem has as happening in wild compilation.


2013/2/11 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> The 0.44.0 nightly builds include Jack for Windows support, if you want to
> try.
>
> .hc
>
> On Feb 3, 2013, at 8:12 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>
> The 0.44 are working with jack? I can test it..(?)
>
>
> 2013/2/3 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>
>>
>> That's a bummer, but I don't think this story is over, so leave the wiki.
>>  I
>> think that Jack on Windows is relatively new, so its going to have little
>> problems.  And through contributions like yours, it will get better.
>>
>> For example, I included the jack for windows stuff in pd-extended 0.44,
>> so the
>> nightly builds should include it starting tomorrow:
>> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2013-02-04/
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On 02/03/2013 07:20 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>> > ok... I yeld...  That solution don't work well yet..
>> >
>> > When I disable UAC settings in Windows the only thing happend is the app
>> > can start itself in administrator mode...
>> >
>> > The problem is when I run pd in administrator mode, it are bugged... It
>> > can't load objects correctly like a video I send previously.
>> >
>> > Is the best thing delete the wiki??
>> >
>> >
>> > 2013/1/28 Esteban Viveros 
>> >
>> >> Ok.. Now we have some information on wiki page..
>> >>
>> >> http://puredata.info/docs/PdExtended0434JackAbletonLive8
>> >>
>> >> Ready to changes..! ;)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2013/1/28 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> This is great!  Could you create a wiki page here and put the info
>> there?
>> >>> That's an easy place for people to find it when they are trying to
>> set it
>> >>> up
>> >>> themselves.
>> >>>
>> >>> http://puredata.info/docs/
>> >>>
>> >>> .hc
>> >>>
>> >>> On 01/28/2013 12:56 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>>  At this moment I can use ableton live and pd with jack with a custom
>>  compiled version of pd-extended.. You can try in your setup and
>> relate
>> >>> if
>>  that work or you too..
>> 
>>  You need:
>> 
>>  pd-extended jack built:
>>  https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6TScIMkPOGJSHdwZzJVM19CQ00/edit
>>  Jack Audio: *Mixed 64/32 bit JACK 1.9.9* in
>> >>> http://jackaudio.org/download
>> 
>>  Read this:
>>  To install Jack: http://jackaudio.org/jack_on_windows
>>  Probably you need Asio4All, at now the website of asio4all is out,
>> but
>> >>> you
>>  can download it here for example: http://asio4all.softonic.com.br/
>> 
>>  After uncompress pd-extended, install correctly jack, you need to
>> change
>>  UAC settings in your windows. In my case I'm using Windows 7 x64,
>> and it
>>  solve all the problems with Ableton Live, Jack and pd sync.
>>  To change UAC settings (disabling):
>>  http://www.petri.co.il/disable-uac-in-windows-7.htm
>> 
>>  Hope it's works!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  2013/1/28 batinste 
>> 
>> >  pd in Live... I'm drooling. Keep us posted about how well you make
>> it
>> > work with a recent pd version, i'm very interested.
>> >
>> >
>> > On 28/01/2013 12:45, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>> >
>> > That's sound very nice!
>> >
>> >  I will try to install on Ableton pdvst again in the coming days. It
>> >>> will
>> > be very good to get everything running cool place .. ;)
>> >
>> >  I will also open a new topic to better organize the topic for
>> future
>> > google research .. Ok?
>> >
>> >
>> > 2013/1/27 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>> >
>> >>  On 01/27/2013 01:49 PM, Patrice Colet wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>>  De: "Esteban Viveros" 
>> >>>
>>  Some time ago I tried to run pdvst without sucess.
>> >>>
>> >>> ah if you put the vststuff.dll into vstplugin directory, and the
>> >>> pdvst
>> >> folder that contains vststuff.pd patches vststuff.pdv files along
>> >>> with the
>> >> vst host executable (it should be 'Program' folder for Ableton
>> Live)
>> >>> it
>> >> should be ok.
>> >>>
>> >>> I've started some time ago to give a try into recompiling pdvst
>> with
>> >>> a
>> >> recent pd version, but no success yet.
>> >>> It would be nice to have some patches to apply into pd-extended
>> >>> sources
>> >> for having an actual pdvst version, but if I'm the only one
>> >>> interested into
>> >> using this, it might not be worth the effort.
>> >>
>> >>  I've never looked at those pat

Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

The 0.44.0 nightly builds include Jack for Windows support, if you want to try.

.hc

On Feb 3, 2013, at 8:12 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:

> The 0.44 are working with jack? I can test it..(?)
> 
> 
> 2013/2/3 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> 
> That's a bummer, but I don't think this story is over, so leave the wiki.  I
> think that Jack on Windows is relatively new, so its going to have little
> problems.  And through contributions like yours, it will get better.
> 
> For example, I included the jack for windows stuff in pd-extended 0.44, so the
> nightly builds should include it starting tomorrow:
> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2013-02-04/
> 
> .hc
> 
> On 02/03/2013 07:20 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> > ok... I yeld...  That solution don't work well yet..
> >
> > When I disable UAC settings in Windows the only thing happend is the app
> > can start itself in administrator mode...
> >
> > The problem is when I run pd in administrator mode, it are bugged... It
> > can't load objects correctly like a video I send previously.
> >
> > Is the best thing delete the wiki??
> >
> >
> > 2013/1/28 Esteban Viveros 
> >
> >> Ok.. Now we have some information on wiki page..
> >>
> >> http://puredata.info/docs/PdExtended0434JackAbletonLive8
> >>
> >> Ready to changes..! ;)
> >>
> >>
> >> 2013/1/28 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >>
> >>>
> >>> This is great!  Could you create a wiki page here and put the info there?
> >>> That's an easy place for people to find it when they are trying to set it
> >>> up
> >>> themselves.
> >>>
> >>> http://puredata.info/docs/
> >>>
> >>> .hc
> >>>
> >>> On 01/28/2013 12:56 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>  At this moment I can use ableton live and pd with jack with a custom
>  compiled version of pd-extended.. You can try in your setup and relate
> >>> if
>  that work or you too..
> 
>  You need:
> 
>  pd-extended jack built:
>  https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6TScIMkPOGJSHdwZzJVM19CQ00/edit
>  Jack Audio: *Mixed 64/32 bit JACK 1.9.9* in
> >>> http://jackaudio.org/download
> 
>  Read this:
>  To install Jack: http://jackaudio.org/jack_on_windows
>  Probably you need Asio4All, at now the website of asio4all is out, but
> >>> you
>  can download it here for example: http://asio4all.softonic.com.br/
> 
>  After uncompress pd-extended, install correctly jack, you need to change
>  UAC settings in your windows. In my case I'm using Windows 7 x64, and it
>  solve all the problems with Ableton Live, Jack and pd sync.
>  To change UAC settings (disabling):
>  http://www.petri.co.il/disable-uac-in-windows-7.htm
> 
>  Hope it's works!
> 
> 
> 
>  2013/1/28 batinste 
> 
> >  pd in Live... I'm drooling. Keep us posted about how well you make it
> > work with a recent pd version, i'm very interested.
> >
> >
> > On 28/01/2013 12:45, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> >
> > That's sound very nice!
> >
> >  I will try to install on Ableton pdvst again in the coming days. It
> >>> will
> > be very good to get everything running cool place .. ;)
> >
> >  I will also open a new topic to better organize the topic for future
> > google research .. Ok?
> >
> >
> > 2013/1/27 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >
> >>  On 01/27/2013 01:49 PM, Patrice Colet wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
>  De: "Esteban Viveros" 
> >>>
>  Some time ago I tried to run pdvst without sucess.
> >>>
> >>> ah if you put the vststuff.dll into vstplugin directory, and the
> >>> pdvst
> >> folder that contains vststuff.pd patches vststuff.pdv files along
> >>> with the
> >> vst host executable (it should be 'Program' folder for Ableton Live)
> >>> it
> >> should be ok.
> >>>
> >>> I've started some time ago to give a try into recompiling pdvst with
> >>> a
> >> recent pd version, but no success yet.
> >>> It would be nice to have some patches to apply into pd-extended
> >>> sources
> >> for having an actual pdvst version, but if I'm the only one
> >>> interested into
> >> using this, it might not be worth the effort.
> >>
> >>  I've never looked at those patches because I've never really used
> >>> VSTs.
> >>  But
> >> post them here and I'll look at them.  If its possible to include
> >>> them,
> >> I'm up
> >> for it.  I think I remember that pdvst has a custom scheduler.  The
> >>> best
> >> thing
> >> then would be to port it to the new pluggable scheduler stuff used by
> >>> pd~
> >>
> >> .hc
> >>
> >> ___
> >> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
> >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >  --
> >
> > Esteban Viveros
> >
> > (27) 8815 7170
> > (27) 3066 0359
> > (11) 95761 4125
> > (11) 2738 7868
> >
> >

Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Esteban Viveros]

The 0.44 are working with jack? I can test it..(?)


2013/2/3 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> That's a bummer, but I don't think this story is over, so leave the wiki.
>  I
> think that Jack on Windows is relatively new, so its going to have little
> problems.  And through contributions like yours, it will get better.
>
> For example, I included the jack for windows stuff in pd-extended 0.44, so
> the
> nightly builds should include it starting tomorrow:
> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2013-02-04/
>
> .hc
>
> On 02/03/2013 07:20 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> > ok... I yeld...  That solution don't work well yet..
> >
> > When I disable UAC settings in Windows the only thing happend is the app
> > can start itself in administrator mode...
> >
> > The problem is when I run pd in administrator mode, it are bugged... It
> > can't load objects correctly like a video I send previously.
> >
> > Is the best thing delete the wiki??
> >
> >
> > 2013/1/28 Esteban Viveros 
> >
> >> Ok.. Now we have some information on wiki page..
> >>
> >> http://puredata.info/docs/PdExtended0434JackAbletonLive8
> >>
> >> Ready to changes..! ;)
> >>
> >>
> >> 2013/1/28 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >>
> >>>
> >>> This is great!  Could you create a wiki page here and put the info
> there?
> >>> That's an easy place for people to find it when they are trying to set
> it
> >>> up
> >>> themselves.
> >>>
> >>> http://puredata.info/docs/
> >>>
> >>> .hc
> >>>
> >>> On 01/28/2013 12:56 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>  At this moment I can use ableton live and pd with jack with a custom
>  compiled version of pd-extended.. You can try in your setup and relate
> >>> if
>  that work or you too..
> 
>  You need:
> 
>  pd-extended jack built:
>  https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6TScIMkPOGJSHdwZzJVM19CQ00/edit
>  Jack Audio: *Mixed 64/32 bit JACK 1.9.9* in
> >>> http://jackaudio.org/download
> 
>  Read this:
>  To install Jack: http://jackaudio.org/jack_on_windows
>  Probably you need Asio4All, at now the website of asio4all is out, but
> >>> you
>  can download it here for example: http://asio4all.softonic.com.br/
> 
>  After uncompress pd-extended, install correctly jack, you need to
> change
>  UAC settings in your windows. In my case I'm using Windows 7 x64, and
> it
>  solve all the problems with Ableton Live, Jack and pd sync.
>  To change UAC settings (disabling):
>  http://www.petri.co.il/disable-uac-in-windows-7.htm
> 
>  Hope it's works!
> 
> 
> 
>  2013/1/28 batinste 
> 
> >  pd in Live... I'm drooling. Keep us posted about how well you make
> it
> > work with a recent pd version, i'm very interested.
> >
> >
> > On 28/01/2013 12:45, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> >
> > That's sound very nice!
> >
> >  I will try to install on Ableton pdvst again in the coming days. It
> >>> will
> > be very good to get everything running cool place .. ;)
> >
> >  I will also open a new topic to better organize the topic for future
> > google research .. Ok?
> >
> >
> > 2013/1/27 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >
> >>  On 01/27/2013 01:49 PM, Patrice Colet wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
>  De: "Esteban Viveros" 
> >>>
>  Some time ago I tried to run pdvst without sucess.
> >>>
> >>> ah if you put the vststuff.dll into vstplugin directory, and the
> >>> pdvst
> >> folder that contains vststuff.pd patches vststuff.pdv files along
> >>> with the
> >> vst host executable (it should be 'Program' folder for Ableton Live)
> >>> it
> >> should be ok.
> >>>
> >>> I've started some time ago to give a try into recompiling pdvst
> with
> >>> a
> >> recent pd version, but no success yet.
> >>> It would be nice to have some patches to apply into pd-extended
> >>> sources
> >> for having an actual pdvst version, but if I'm the only one
> >>> interested into
> >> using this, it might not be worth the effort.
> >>
> >>  I've never looked at those patches because I've never really used
> >>> VSTs.
> >>  But
> >> post them here and I'll look at them.  If its possible to include
> >>> them,
> >> I'm up
> >> for it.  I think I remember that pdvst has a custom scheduler.  The
> >>> best
> >> thing
> >> then would be to port it to the new pluggable scheduler stuff used
> by
> >>> pd~
> >>
> >> .hc
> >>
> >> ___
> >> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
> >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >  --
> >
> > Esteban Viveros
> >
> > (27) 8815 7170
> > (27) 3066 0359
> > (11) 95761 4125
> > (11) 2738 7868
> >
> > www.bandpage.com/estebanviveros <
> http://soundcloud.com/estebanviveros>
> >
> > https://www.facebook.com/estebanviver

Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

That's a bummer, but I don't think this story is over, so leave the wiki.  I
think that Jack on Windows is relatively new, so its going to have little
problems.  And through contributions like yours, it will get better.

For example, I included the jack for windows stuff in pd-extended 0.44, so the
nightly builds should include it starting tomorrow:
http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2013-02-04/

.hc

On 02/03/2013 07:20 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> ok... I yeld...  That solution don't work well yet..
> 
> When I disable UAC settings in Windows the only thing happend is the app
> can start itself in administrator mode...
> 
> The problem is when I run pd in administrator mode, it are bugged... It
> can't load objects correctly like a video I send previously.
> 
> Is the best thing delete the wiki??
> 
> 
> 2013/1/28 Esteban Viveros 
> 
>> Ok.. Now we have some information on wiki page..
>>
>> http://puredata.info/docs/PdExtended0434JackAbletonLive8
>>
>> Ready to changes..! ;)
>>
>>
>> 2013/1/28 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>>
>>>
>>> This is great!  Could you create a wiki page here and put the info there?
>>> That's an easy place for people to find it when they are trying to set it
>>> up
>>> themselves.
>>>
>>> http://puredata.info/docs/
>>>
>>> .hc
>>>
>>> On 01/28/2013 12:56 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
 At this moment I can use ableton live and pd with jack with a custom
 compiled version of pd-extended.. You can try in your setup and relate
>>> if
 that work or you too..

 You need:

 pd-extended jack built:
 https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6TScIMkPOGJSHdwZzJVM19CQ00/edit
 Jack Audio: *Mixed 64/32 bit JACK 1.9.9* in
>>> http://jackaudio.org/download

 Read this:
 To install Jack: http://jackaudio.org/jack_on_windows
 Probably you need Asio4All, at now the website of asio4all is out, but
>>> you
 can download it here for example: http://asio4all.softonic.com.br/

 After uncompress pd-extended, install correctly jack, you need to change
 UAC settings in your windows. In my case I'm using Windows 7 x64, and it
 solve all the problems with Ableton Live, Jack and pd sync.
 To change UAC settings (disabling):
 http://www.petri.co.il/disable-uac-in-windows-7.htm

 Hope it's works!



 2013/1/28 batinste 

>  pd in Live... I'm drooling. Keep us posted about how well you make it
> work with a recent pd version, i'm very interested.
>
>
> On 28/01/2013 12:45, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>
> That's sound very nice!
>
>  I will try to install on Ableton pdvst again in the coming days. It
>>> will
> be very good to get everything running cool place .. ;)
>
>  I will also open a new topic to better organize the topic for future
> google research .. Ok?
>
>
> 2013/1/27 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>
>>  On 01/27/2013 01:49 PM, Patrice Colet wrote:
>>>
>>>
 De: "Esteban Viveros" 
>>>
 Some time ago I tried to run pdvst without sucess.
>>>
>>> ah if you put the vststuff.dll into vstplugin directory, and the
>>> pdvst
>> folder that contains vststuff.pd patches vststuff.pdv files along
>>> with the
>> vst host executable (it should be 'Program' folder for Ableton Live)
>>> it
>> should be ok.
>>>
>>> I've started some time ago to give a try into recompiling pdvst with
>>> a
>> recent pd version, but no success yet.
>>> It would be nice to have some patches to apply into pd-extended
>>> sources
>> for having an actual pdvst version, but if I'm the only one
>>> interested into
>> using this, it might not be worth the effort.
>>
>>  I've never looked at those patches because I've never really used
>>> VSTs.
>>  But
>> post them here and I'll look at them.  If its possible to include
>>> them,
>> I'm up
>> for it.  I think I remember that pdvst has a custom scheduler.  The
>>> best
>> thing
>> then would be to port it to the new pluggable scheduler stuff used by
>>> pd~
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> ___
>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
>>
>
>
>
>  --
>
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>
> (27) 8815 7170
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>
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>
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>
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>
> http://expurgacao.art.br/
>
>
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>>> list
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>


>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Esteban Viveros
>>
>> (27) 8815 7170
>> (27) 3066 035

Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Esteban Viveros]

ok... I yeld...  That solution don't work well yet..

When I disable UAC settings in Windows the only thing happend is the app
can start itself in administrator mode...

The problem is when I run pd in administrator mode, it are bugged... It
can't load objects correctly like a video I send previously.

Is the best thing delete the wiki??


2013/1/28 Esteban Viveros 

> Ok.. Now we have some information on wiki page..
>
> http://puredata.info/docs/PdExtended0434JackAbletonLive8
>
> Ready to changes..! ;)
>
>
> 2013/1/28 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>
>>
>> This is great!  Could you create a wiki page here and put the info there?
>> That's an easy place for people to find it when they are trying to set it
>> up
>> themselves.
>>
>> http://puredata.info/docs/
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On 01/28/2013 12:56 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>> > At this moment I can use ableton live and pd with jack with a custom
>> > compiled version of pd-extended.. You can try in your setup and relate
>> if
>> > that work or you too..
>> >
>> > You need:
>> >
>> > pd-extended jack built:
>> > https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6TScIMkPOGJSHdwZzJVM19CQ00/edit
>> > Jack Audio: *Mixed 64/32 bit JACK 1.9.9* in
>> http://jackaudio.org/download
>> >
>> > Read this:
>> > To install Jack: http://jackaudio.org/jack_on_windows
>> > Probably you need Asio4All, at now the website of asio4all is out, but
>> you
>> > can download it here for example: http://asio4all.softonic.com.br/
>> >
>> > After uncompress pd-extended, install correctly jack, you need to change
>> > UAC settings in your windows. In my case I'm using Windows 7 x64, and it
>> > solve all the problems with Ableton Live, Jack and pd sync.
>> > To change UAC settings (disabling):
>> > http://www.petri.co.il/disable-uac-in-windows-7.htm
>> >
>> > Hope it's works!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 2013/1/28 batinste 
>> >
>> >>  pd in Live... I'm drooling. Keep us posted about how well you make it
>> >> work with a recent pd version, i'm very interested.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 28/01/2013 12:45, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>> >>
>> >> That's sound very nice!
>> >>
>> >>  I will try to install on Ableton pdvst again in the coming days. It
>> will
>> >> be very good to get everything running cool place .. ;)
>> >>
>> >>  I will also open a new topic to better organize the topic for future
>> >> google research .. Ok?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2013/1/27 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>> >>
>> >>>  On 01/27/2013 01:49 PM, Patrice Colet wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> > De: "Esteban Viveros" 
>> 
>> > Some time ago I tried to run pdvst without sucess.
>> 
>>  ah if you put the vststuff.dll into vstplugin directory, and the
>> pdvst
>> >>> folder that contains vststuff.pd patches vststuff.pdv files along
>> with the
>> >>> vst host executable (it should be 'Program' folder for Ableton Live)
>> it
>> >>> should be ok.
>> 
>>  I've started some time ago to give a try into recompiling pdvst with
>> a
>> >>> recent pd version, but no success yet.
>>  It would be nice to have some patches to apply into pd-extended
>> sources
>> >>> for having an actual pdvst version, but if I'm the only one
>> interested into
>> >>> using this, it might not be worth the effort.
>> >>>
>> >>>  I've never looked at those patches because I've never really used
>> VSTs.
>> >>>  But
>> >>> post them here and I'll look at them.  If its possible to include
>> them,
>> >>> I'm up
>> >>> for it.  I think I remember that pdvst has a custom scheduler.  The
>> best
>> >>> thing
>> >>> then would be to port it to the new pluggable scheduler stuff used by
>> pd~
>> >>>
>> >>> .hc
>> >>>
>> >>> ___
>> >>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
>> >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
>> >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  --
>> >>
>> >> Esteban Viveros
>> >>
>> >> (27) 8815 7170
>> >> (27) 3066 0359
>> >> (11) 95761 4125
>> >> (11) 2738 7868
>> >>
>> >> www.bandpage.com/estebanviveros 
>> >>
>> >> https://www.facebook.com/estebanviveros.art
>> >>
>> >> http://www.papodecompositor-es.blogspot.com.br/
>> >>
>> >> http://expurgacao.art.br/
>> >>
>> >>
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>> list
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>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
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>
> Esteban Viveros
>
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Esteban Viveros]

Ok.. Now we have some information on wiki page..

http://puredata.info/docs/PdExtended0434JackAbletonLive8

Ready to changes..! ;)


2013/1/28 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> This is great!  Could you create a wiki page here and put the info there?
> That's an easy place for people to find it when they are trying to set it
> up
> themselves.
>
> http://puredata.info/docs/
>
> .hc
>
> On 01/28/2013 12:56 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> > At this moment I can use ableton live and pd with jack with a custom
> > compiled version of pd-extended.. You can try in your setup and relate if
> > that work or you too..
> >
> > You need:
> >
> > pd-extended jack built:
> > https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6TScIMkPOGJSHdwZzJVM19CQ00/edit
> > Jack Audio: *Mixed 64/32 bit JACK 1.9.9* in
> http://jackaudio.org/download
> >
> > Read this:
> > To install Jack: http://jackaudio.org/jack_on_windows
> > Probably you need Asio4All, at now the website of asio4all is out, but
> you
> > can download it here for example: http://asio4all.softonic.com.br/
> >
> > After uncompress pd-extended, install correctly jack, you need to change
> > UAC settings in your windows. In my case I'm using Windows 7 x64, and it
> > solve all the problems with Ableton Live, Jack and pd sync.
> > To change UAC settings (disabling):
> > http://www.petri.co.il/disable-uac-in-windows-7.htm
> >
> > Hope it's works!
> >
> >
> >
> > 2013/1/28 batinste 
> >
> >>  pd in Live... I'm drooling. Keep us posted about how well you make it
> >> work with a recent pd version, i'm very interested.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 28/01/2013 12:45, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> >>
> >> That's sound very nice!
> >>
> >>  I will try to install on Ableton pdvst again in the coming days. It
> will
> >> be very good to get everything running cool place .. ;)
> >>
> >>  I will also open a new topic to better organize the topic for future
> >> google research .. Ok?
> >>
> >>
> >> 2013/1/27 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >>
> >>>  On 01/27/2013 01:49 PM, Patrice Colet wrote:
> 
> 
> > De: "Esteban Viveros" 
> 
> > Some time ago I tried to run pdvst without sucess.
> 
>  ah if you put the vststuff.dll into vstplugin directory, and the pdvst
> >>> folder that contains vststuff.pd patches vststuff.pdv files along with
> the
> >>> vst host executable (it should be 'Program' folder for Ableton Live) it
> >>> should be ok.
> 
>  I've started some time ago to give a try into recompiling pdvst with a
> >>> recent pd version, but no success yet.
>  It would be nice to have some patches to apply into pd-extended
> sources
> >>> for having an actual pdvst version, but if I'm the only one interested
> into
> >>> using this, it might not be worth the effort.
> >>>
> >>>  I've never looked at those patches because I've never really used
> VSTs.
> >>>  But
> >>> post them here and I'll look at them.  If its possible to include them,
> >>> I'm up
> >>> for it.  I think I remember that pdvst has a custom scheduler.  The
> best
> >>> thing
> >>> then would be to port it to the new pluggable scheduler stuff used by
> pd~
> >>>
> >>> .hc
> >>>
> >>> ___
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> >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
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> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  --
> >>
> >> Esteban Viveros
> >>
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> >> (27) 3066 0359
> >> (11) 95761 4125
> >> (11) 2738 7868
> >>
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> >>
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> >>
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Esteban Viveros]

Ohh!! Bitwig!! About 2 years I dream with this software!!


2013/1/28 Max 

> idea: lobby bitwig to put Pd inside. it already supports jack
> http://www.bitwig.com/faqs.html
>
> Am 28.01.2013 um 19:50 schrieb batinste :
>
> > Oh, i've been using Pd AND Live together for some time now, it works
> quite ok with the 42.5 (AFAIR). I understand that i shouldn't update Pd to
> the most recent one if i want my setup to keep on working :/
> >
> > I meant Pd IN Live, aka pdvst, would be cool if it were effortless (no
> wild build for starters, recent version)
> >
> > On 28/01/2013 18:56, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> >> At this moment I can use ableton live and pd with jack with a custom
> compiled version of pd-extended.. You can try in your setup and
> relate if that work or you too..
> >>
> >> You need:
> >>
> >> pd-extended jack built:
> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6TScIMkPOGJSHdwZzJVM19CQ00/edit
> >> Jack Audio: Mixed 64/32 bit JACK 1.9.9 in http://jackaudio.org/download
> >>
> >> Read this:
> >> To install Jack: http://jackaudio.org/jack_on_windows
> >> Probably you need Asio4All, at now the website of asio4all is out, but
> you can download it here for example: http://asio4all.softonic.com.br/
> >>
> >> After uncompress pd-extended, install correctly jack, you need to
> change UAC settings in your windows. In my case I'm using Windows 7 x64,
> and it solve all the problems with Ableton Live, Jack and pd sync.
> >> To change UAC settings (disabling):
> http://www.petri.co.il/disable-uac-in-windows-7.htm
> >>
> >> Hope it's works!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2013/1/28 batinste 
> >> pd in Live... I'm drooling. Keep us posted about how well you make it
> work with a recent pd version, i'm very interested.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 28/01/2013 12:45, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> >>> That's sound very nice!
> >>>
> >>> I will try to install on Ableton pdvst again in the coming days. It
> will be very good to get everything running cool place .. ;)
> >>>
> >>> I will also open a new topic to better organize the topic for future
> google research .. Ok?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2013/1/27 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >>> On 01/27/2013 01:49 PM, Patrice Colet wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >> De: "Esteban Viveros" 
> >>> >
> >>> >> Some time ago I tried to run pdvst without sucess.
> >>> >
> >>> > ah if you put the vststuff.dll into vstplugin directory, and the
> pdvst folder that contains vststuff.pd patches vststuff.pdv files along
> with the vst host executable (it should be 'Program' folder for Ableton
> Live) it should be ok.
> >>> >
> >>> > I've started some time ago to give a try into recompiling pdvst with
> a recent pd version, but no success yet.
> >>> > It would be nice to have some patches to apply into pd-extended
> sources for having an actual pdvst version, but if I'm the only one
> interested into using this, it might not be worth the effort.
> >>>
> >>> I've never looked at those patches because I've never really used
> VSTs.  But
> >>> post them here and I'll look at them.  If its possible to include
> them, I'm up
> >>> for it.  I think I remember that pdvst has a custom scheduler.  The
> best thing
> >>> then would be to port it to the new pluggable scheduler stuff used by
> pd~
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Max]

idea: lobby bitwig to put Pd inside. it already supports jack
http://www.bitwig.com/faqs.html

Am 28.01.2013 um 19:50 schrieb batinste :

> Oh, i've been using Pd AND Live together for some time now, it works quite ok 
> with the 42.5 (AFAIR). I understand that i shouldn't update Pd to the most 
> recent one if i want my setup to keep on working :/
> 
> I meant Pd IN Live, aka pdvst, would be cool if it were effortless (no wild 
> build for starters, recent version)
> 
> On 28/01/2013 18:56, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>> At this moment I can use ableton live and pd with jack with a custom 
>> compiled version of pd-extended.. You can try in your setup and 
>> relate if that work or you too..
>> 
>> You need:
>> 
>> pd-extended jack built: 
>> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6TScIMkPOGJSHdwZzJVM19CQ00/edit
>> Jack Audio: Mixed 64/32 bit JACK 1.9.9 in http://jackaudio.org/download
>> 
>> Read this:
>> To install Jack: http://jackaudio.org/jack_on_windows
>> Probably you need Asio4All, at now the website of asio4all is out, but you 
>> can download it here for example: http://asio4all.softonic.com.br/
>> 
>> After uncompress pd-extended, install correctly jack, you need to change UAC 
>> settings in your windows. In my case I'm using Windows 7 x64, and it solve 
>> all the problems with Ableton Live, Jack and pd sync.
>> To change UAC settings (disabling): 
>> http://www.petri.co.il/disable-uac-in-windows-7.htm
>> 
>> Hope it's works!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 2013/1/28 batinste 
>> pd in Live... I'm drooling. Keep us posted about how well you make it work 
>> with a recent pd version, i'm very interested.
>> 
>> 
>> On 28/01/2013 12:45, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>>> That's sound very nice!
>>> 
>>> I will try to install on Ableton pdvst again in the coming days. It will be 
>>> very good to get everything running cool place .. ;)
>>> 
>>> I will also open a new topic to better organize the topic for future google 
>>> research .. Ok?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2013/1/27 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>>> On 01/27/2013 01:49 PM, Patrice Colet wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> De: "Esteban Viveros" 
>>> >
>>> >> Some time ago I tried to run pdvst without sucess.
>>> >
>>> > ah if you put the vststuff.dll into vstplugin directory, and the pdvst 
>>> > folder that contains vststuff.pd patches vststuff.pdv files along with 
>>> > the vst host executable (it should be 'Program' folder for Ableton Live) 
>>> > it should be ok.
>>> >
>>> > I've started some time ago to give a try into recompiling pdvst with a 
>>> > recent pd version, but no success yet.
>>> > It would be nice to have some patches to apply into pd-extended sources 
>>> > for having an actual pdvst version, but if I'm the only one interested 
>>> > into using this, it might not be worth the effort.
>>> 
>>> I've never looked at those patches because I've never really used VSTs.  But
>>> post them here and I'll look at them.  If its possible to include them, I'm 
>>> up
>>> for it.  I think I remember that pdvst has a custom scheduler.  The best 
>>> thing
>>> then would be to port it to the new pluggable scheduler stuff used by pd~
>>> 
>>> .hc
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Esteban Viveros]

Yeah.. I understand now.. And I  agree.

This happend because pd-extended 0.43.4 version don't have jack support
included. But it can change in 0.44 version. But at this moment, that's
working for me.

For starters a stable version working with jack I think we only have 0.42.5
version. But for adventurers.. ;)


2013/1/28 batinste 

>  Oh, i've been using Pd AND Live together for some time now, it works
> quite ok with the 42.5 (AFAIR). I understand that i shouldn't update Pd to
> the most recent one if i want my setup to keep on working :/
>
> I meant Pd IN Live, aka pdvst, would be cool if it were effortless (no
> wild build for starters, recent version)
>
>
> On 28/01/2013 18:56, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>
> At this moment I can use ableton live and pd with jack with a custom
> compiled version of pd-extended.. You can try in your setup and relate if
> that work or you too..
>
>  You need:
>
>  pd-extended jack built:
> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6TScIMkPOGJSHdwZzJVM19CQ00/edit
> Jack Audio: *Mixed 64/32 bit JACK 1.9.9* in http://jackaudio.org/download
>
>  Read this:
> To install Jack: http://jackaudio.org/jack_on_windows
> Probably you need Asio4All, at now the website of asio4all is out, but you
> can download it here for example: http://asio4all.softonic.com.br/
>
>  After uncompress pd-extended, install correctly jack, you need to change
> UAC settings in your windows. In my case I'm using Windows 7 x64, and it
> solve all the problems with Ableton Live, Jack and pd sync.
> To change UAC settings (disabling):
> http://www.petri.co.il/disable-uac-in-windows-7.htm
>
>  Hope it's works!
>
>
>
> 2013/1/28 batinste 
>
>>  pd in Live... I'm drooling. Keep us posted about how well you make it
>> work with a recent pd version, i'm very interested.
>>
>>
>> On 28/01/2013 12:45, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>>
>> That's sound very nice!
>>
>>  I will try to install on Ableton pdvst again in the coming days. It
>> will be very good to get everything running cool place .. ;)
>>
>>  I will also open a new topic to better organize the topic for future
>> google research .. Ok?
>>
>>
>> 2013/1/27 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>>
>>>  On 01/27/2013 01:49 PM, Patrice Colet wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> De: "Esteban Viveros" 
>>> >
>>> >> Some time ago I tried to run pdvst without sucess.
>>> >
>>> > ah if you put the vststuff.dll into vstplugin directory, and the pdvst
>>> folder that contains vststuff.pd patches vststuff.pdv files along with the
>>> vst host executable (it should be 'Program' folder for Ableton Live) it
>>> should be ok.
>>> >
>>> > I've started some time ago to give a try into recompiling pdvst with a
>>> recent pd version, but no success yet.
>>> > It would be nice to have some patches to apply into pd-extended
>>> sources for having an actual pdvst version, but if I'm the only one
>>> interested into using this, it might not be worth the effort.
>>>
>>>  I've never looked at those patches because I've never really used
>>> VSTs.  But
>>> post them here and I'll look at them.  If its possible to include them,
>>> I'm up
>>> for it.  I think I remember that pdvst has a custom scheduler.  The best
>>> thing
>>> then would be to port it to the new pluggable scheduler stuff used by pd~
>>>
>>> .hc
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[batinste]

Oh, i've been using Pd AND Live together for some time now, it works 
quite ok with the 42.5 (AFAIR). I understand that i shouldn't update Pd 
to the most recent one if i want my setup to keep on working :/


I meant Pd IN Live, aka pdvst, would be cool if it were effortless (no 
wild build for starters, recent version)


On 28/01/2013 18:56, Esteban Viveros wrote:
At this moment I can use ableton live and pd with jack with a custom 
compiled version of pd-extended.. You can try in your setup and relate 
if that work or you too..


You need:

pd-extended jack built: 
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6TScIMkPOGJSHdwZzJVM19CQ00/edit

Jack Audio: _Mixed 64/32 bit JACK 1.9.9_ in http://jackaudio.org/download

Read this:
To install Jack: http://jackaudio.org/jack_on_windows
Probably you need Asio4All, at now the website of asio4all is out, but 
you can download it here for example: http://asio4all.softonic.com.br/


After uncompress pd-extended, install correctly jack, you need to 
change UAC settings in your windows. In my case I'm using Windows 7 
x64, and it solve all the problems with Ableton Live, Jack and pd sync.
To change UAC settings (disabling): 
http://www.petri.co.il/disable-uac-in-windows-7.htm


Hope it's works!



2013/1/28 batinste mailto:dwanaf...@yahoo.fr>>

pd in Live... I'm drooling. Keep us posted about how well you make
it work with a recent pd version, i'm very interested.


On 28/01/2013 12:45, Esteban Viveros wrote:

That's sound very nice!

I will try to install on Ableton pdvst again in the coming days.
It will be very good to get everything running cool place .. ;)

I will also open a new topic to better organize the topic for
future google research .. Ok?


2013/1/27 Hans-Christoph Steiner mailto:h...@at.or.at>>

On 01/27/2013 01:49 PM, Patrice Colet wrote:
>
>
>> De: "Esteban Viveros" mailto:emvive...@gmail.com>>
>
>> Some time ago I tried to run pdvst without sucess.
>
> ah if you put the vststuff.dll into vstplugin directory,
and the pdvst folder that contains vststuff.pd patches
vststuff.pdv files along with the vst host executable (it
should be 'Program' folder for Ableton Live) it should be ok.
>
> I've started some time ago to give a try into recompiling
pdvst with a recent pd version, but no success yet.
> It would be nice to have some patches to apply into
pd-extended sources for having an actual pdvst version, but
if I'm the only one interested into using this, it might not
be worth the effort.

I've never looked at those patches because I've never really
used VSTs.  But
post them here and I'll look at them.  If its possible to
include them, I'm up
for it.  I think I remember that pdvst has a custom
scheduler.  The best thing
then would be to port it to the new pluggable scheduler stuff
used by pd~

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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Esteban Viveros]

Of course! I try to do that now..


2013/1/28 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> This is great!  Could you create a wiki page here and put the info there?
> That's an easy place for people to find it when they are trying to set it
> up
> themselves.
>
> http://puredata.info/docs/
>
> .hc
>
> On 01/28/2013 12:56 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> > At this moment I can use ableton live and pd with jack with a custom
> > compiled version of pd-extended.. You can try in your setup and relate if
> > that work or you too..
> >
> > You need:
> >
> > pd-extended jack built:
> > https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6TScIMkPOGJSHdwZzJVM19CQ00/edit
> > Jack Audio: *Mixed 64/32 bit JACK 1.9.9* in
> http://jackaudio.org/download
> >
> > Read this:
> > To install Jack: http://jackaudio.org/jack_on_windows
> > Probably you need Asio4All, at now the website of asio4all is out, but
> you
> > can download it here for example: http://asio4all.softonic.com.br/
> >
> > After uncompress pd-extended, install correctly jack, you need to change
> > UAC settings in your windows. In my case I'm using Windows 7 x64, and it
> > solve all the problems with Ableton Live, Jack and pd sync.
> > To change UAC settings (disabling):
> > http://www.petri.co.il/disable-uac-in-windows-7.htm
> >
> > Hope it's works!
> >
> >
> >
> > 2013/1/28 batinste 
> >
> >>  pd in Live... I'm drooling. Keep us posted about how well you make it
> >> work with a recent pd version, i'm very interested.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 28/01/2013 12:45, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> >>
> >> That's sound very nice!
> >>
> >>  I will try to install on Ableton pdvst again in the coming days. It
> will
> >> be very good to get everything running cool place .. ;)
> >>
> >>  I will also open a new topic to better organize the topic for future
> >> google research .. Ok?
> >>
> >>
> >> 2013/1/27 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >>
> >>>  On 01/27/2013 01:49 PM, Patrice Colet wrote:
> 
> 
> > De: "Esteban Viveros" 
> 
> > Some time ago I tried to run pdvst without sucess.
> 
>  ah if you put the vststuff.dll into vstplugin directory, and the pdvst
> >>> folder that contains vststuff.pd patches vststuff.pdv files along with
> the
> >>> vst host executable (it should be 'Program' folder for Ableton Live) it
> >>> should be ok.
> 
>  I've started some time ago to give a try into recompiling pdvst with a
> >>> recent pd version, but no success yet.
>  It would be nice to have some patches to apply into pd-extended
> sources
> >>> for having an actual pdvst version, but if I'm the only one interested
> into
> >>> using this, it might not be worth the effort.
> >>>
> >>>  I've never looked at those patches because I've never really used
> VSTs.
> >>>  But
> >>> post them here and I'll look at them.  If its possible to include them,
> >>> I'm up
> >>> for it.  I think I remember that pdvst has a custom scheduler.  The
> best
> >>> thing
> >>> then would be to port it to the new pluggable scheduler stuff used by
> pd~
> >>>
> >>> .hc
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

This is great!  Could you create a wiki page here and put the info there?
That's an easy place for people to find it when they are trying to set it up
themselves.

http://puredata.info/docs/

.hc

On 01/28/2013 12:56 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> At this moment I can use ableton live and pd with jack with a custom
> compiled version of pd-extended.. You can try in your setup and relate if
> that work or you too..
> 
> You need:
> 
> pd-extended jack built:
> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6TScIMkPOGJSHdwZzJVM19CQ00/edit
> Jack Audio: *Mixed 64/32 bit JACK 1.9.9* in http://jackaudio.org/download
> 
> Read this:
> To install Jack: http://jackaudio.org/jack_on_windows
> Probably you need Asio4All, at now the website of asio4all is out, but you
> can download it here for example: http://asio4all.softonic.com.br/
> 
> After uncompress pd-extended, install correctly jack, you need to change
> UAC settings in your windows. In my case I'm using Windows 7 x64, and it
> solve all the problems with Ableton Live, Jack and pd sync.
> To change UAC settings (disabling):
> http://www.petri.co.il/disable-uac-in-windows-7.htm
> 
> Hope it's works!
> 
> 
> 
> 2013/1/28 batinste 
> 
>>  pd in Live... I'm drooling. Keep us posted about how well you make it
>> work with a recent pd version, i'm very interested.
>>
>>
>> On 28/01/2013 12:45, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>>
>> That's sound very nice!
>>
>>  I will try to install on Ableton pdvst again in the coming days. It will
>> be very good to get everything running cool place .. ;)
>>
>>  I will also open a new topic to better organize the topic for future
>> google research .. Ok?
>>
>>
>> 2013/1/27 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>>
>>>  On 01/27/2013 01:49 PM, Patrice Colet wrote:


> De: "Esteban Viveros" 

> Some time ago I tried to run pdvst without sucess.

 ah if you put the vststuff.dll into vstplugin directory, and the pdvst
>>> folder that contains vststuff.pd patches vststuff.pdv files along with the
>>> vst host executable (it should be 'Program' folder for Ableton Live) it
>>> should be ok.

 I've started some time ago to give a try into recompiling pdvst with a
>>> recent pd version, but no success yet.
 It would be nice to have some patches to apply into pd-extended sources
>>> for having an actual pdvst version, but if I'm the only one interested into
>>> using this, it might not be worth the effort.
>>>
>>>  I've never looked at those patches because I've never really used VSTs.
>>>  But
>>> post them here and I'll look at them.  If its possible to include them,
>>> I'm up
>>> for it.  I think I remember that pdvst has a custom scheduler.  The best
>>> thing
>>> then would be to port it to the new pluggable scheduler stuff used by pd~
>>>
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Esteban Viveros]

At this moment I can use ableton live and pd with jack with a custom
compiled version of pd-extended.. You can try in your setup and relate if
that work or you too..

You need:

pd-extended jack built:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6TScIMkPOGJSHdwZzJVM19CQ00/edit
Jack Audio: *Mixed 64/32 bit JACK 1.9.9* in http://jackaudio.org/download

Read this:
To install Jack: http://jackaudio.org/jack_on_windows
Probably you need Asio4All, at now the website of asio4all is out, but you
can download it here for example: http://asio4all.softonic.com.br/

After uncompress pd-extended, install correctly jack, you need to change
UAC settings in your windows. In my case I'm using Windows 7 x64, and it
solve all the problems with Ableton Live, Jack and pd sync.
To change UAC settings (disabling):
http://www.petri.co.il/disable-uac-in-windows-7.htm

Hope it's works!



2013/1/28 batinste 

>  pd in Live... I'm drooling. Keep us posted about how well you make it
> work with a recent pd version, i'm very interested.
>
>
> On 28/01/2013 12:45, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>
> That's sound very nice!
>
>  I will try to install on Ableton pdvst again in the coming days. It will
> be very good to get everything running cool place .. ;)
>
>  I will also open a new topic to better organize the topic for future
> google research .. Ok?
>
>
> 2013/1/27 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>
>>  On 01/27/2013 01:49 PM, Patrice Colet wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> De: "Esteban Viveros" 
>> >
>> >> Some time ago I tried to run pdvst without sucess.
>> >
>> > ah if you put the vststuff.dll into vstplugin directory, and the pdvst
>> folder that contains vststuff.pd patches vststuff.pdv files along with the
>> vst host executable (it should be 'Program' folder for Ableton Live) it
>> should be ok.
>> >
>> > I've started some time ago to give a try into recompiling pdvst with a
>> recent pd version, but no success yet.
>> > It would be nice to have some patches to apply into pd-extended sources
>> for having an actual pdvst version, but if I'm the only one interested into
>> using this, it might not be worth the effort.
>>
>>  I've never looked at those patches because I've never really used VSTs.
>>  But
>> post them here and I'll look at them.  If its possible to include them,
>> I'm up
>> for it.  I think I remember that pdvst has a custom scheduler.  The best
>> thing
>> then would be to port it to the new pluggable scheduler stuff used by pd~
>>
>> .hc
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[batinste]

pd in Live... I'm drooling. Keep us posted about how well you make it 
work with a recent pd version, i'm very interested.


On 28/01/2013 12:45, Esteban Viveros wrote:

That's sound very nice!

I will try to install on Ableton pdvst again in the coming days. It 
will be very good to get everything running cool place .. ;)


I will also open a new topic to better organize the topic for future 
google research .. Ok?



2013/1/27 Hans-Christoph Steiner mailto:h...@at.or.at>>

On 01/27/2013 01:49 PM, Patrice Colet wrote:
>
>
>> De: "Esteban Viveros" mailto:emvive...@gmail.com>>
>
>> Some time ago I tried to run pdvst without sucess.
>
> ah if you put the vststuff.dll into vstplugin directory, and the
pdvst folder that contains vststuff.pd patches vststuff.pdv files
along with the vst host executable (it should be 'Program' folder
for Ableton Live) it should be ok.
>
> I've started some time ago to give a try into recompiling pdvst
with a recent pd version, but no success yet.
> It would be nice to have some patches to apply into pd-extended
sources for having an actual pdvst version, but if I'm the only
one interested into using this, it might not be worth the effort.

I've never looked at those patches because I've never really used
VSTs.  But
post them here and I'll look at them.  If its possible to include
them, I'm up
for it.  I think I remember that pdvst has a custom scheduler.
 The best thing
then would be to port it to the new pluggable scheduler stuff used
by pd~

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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Esteban Viveros]

That's sound very nice!

I will try to install on Ableton pdvst again in the coming days. It will be
very good to get everything running cool place .. ;)

I will also open a new topic to better organize the topic for future google
research .. Ok?


2013/1/27 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

> On 01/27/2013 01:49 PM, Patrice Colet wrote:
> >
> >
> >> De: "Esteban Viveros" 
> >
> >> Some time ago I tried to run pdvst without sucess.
> >
> > ah if you put the vststuff.dll into vstplugin directory, and the pdvst
> folder that contains vststuff.pd patches vststuff.pdv files along with the
> vst host executable (it should be 'Program' folder for Ableton Live) it
> should be ok.
> >
> > I've started some time ago to give a try into recompiling pdvst with a
> recent pd version, but no success yet.
> > It would be nice to have some patches to apply into pd-extended sources
> for having an actual pdvst version, but if I'm the only one interested into
> using this, it might not be worth the effort.
>
> I've never looked at those patches because I've never really used VSTs.
>  But
> post them here and I'll look at them.  If its possible to include them,
> I'm up
> for it.  I think I remember that pdvst has a custom scheduler.  The best
> thing
> then would be to port it to the new pluggable scheduler stuff used by pd~
>
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

On 01/27/2013 01:49 PM, Patrice Colet wrote:
> 
> 
>> De: "Esteban Viveros" 
> 
>> Some time ago I tried to run pdvst without sucess.
> 
> ah if you put the vststuff.dll into vstplugin directory, and the pdvst folder 
> that contains vststuff.pd patches vststuff.pdv files along with the vst host 
> executable (it should be 'Program' folder for Ableton Live) it should be ok.
> 
> I've started some time ago to give a try into recompiling pdvst with a recent 
> pd version, but no success yet.
> It would be nice to have some patches to apply into pd-extended sources for 
> having an actual pdvst version, but if I'm the only one interested into using 
> this, it might not be worth the effort.

I've never looked at those patches because I've never really used VSTs.  But
post them here and I'll look at them.  If its possible to include them, I'm up
for it.  I think I remember that pdvst has a custom scheduler.  The best thing
then would be to port it to the new pluggable scheduler stuff used by pd~

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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

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> De: "Esteban Viveros" 

> Some time ago I tried to run pdvst without sucess.

ah if you put the vststuff.dll into vstplugin directory, and the pdvst folder 
that contains vststuff.pd patches vststuff.pdv files along with the vst host 
executable (it should be 'Program' folder for Ableton Live) it should be ok.

I've started some time ago to give a try into recompiling pdvst with a recent 
pd version, but no success yet.
It would be nice to have some patches to apply into pd-extended sources for 
having an actual pdvst version, but if I'm the only one interested into using 
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Esteban Viveros]

Perhaps... I have a FTP and in linux I only can have 2 outputs with them.
With the m-audio drivers I have 4 outputs..

Some time ago I tried to run pdvst without sucess. The matter is only put
to run pd-extended 0.43.4 with jackd in windows.. Even as I have MaxForLive
working in my windows software set... But years ago I didn't have these
softwares... And it would be great pepople with the same problems I was
have can be run pd with jackd in windows with some facilities... That can
do the people to dispend energy in learn pd and not to try put it to work...


2013/1/27 Patrice Colet 

> jackdmp has always worked with pd on windows because it has been using
> ASIO drivers, but with two channels only...
>
> also I'm still using pdvst for playing with Ableton Live on windows, if
> not in debug mode, it's rather stable, and even if it's a 0.37 pd version,
> we can do a lot of thing with, like opening sockets and send MIDI or VST
> parameters, even running vocoder patches, etc ... In other words, no need
> for jackd, no need for maxmsp in Ableton Live...
>
> Would jackd work with more than two in/out channels on windows?
>
> Colet Patrice
>
> - Mail original -
> > De: "Thomas Mayer" 
> > À: pd-list@iem.at
> > Envoyé: Dimanche 27 Janvier 2013 16:59:55
> > Objet: Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > on Windows only Jackdmp (Jackd2) is available, but the latest version
> > of
> > Pd-extended (0.43.4-extended) does not work with Jackd2, at least on
> > Debian Wheezy.
> >
> > It may be fixed, when this patch is applied
> > (
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478072&aid=3582739&group_id=55736
> ),
> > because Jackd2 has removed jack_client_new () from their interface.
> >
> > I have found another issue with jackd2, because hardware ports are
> > not
> > reported with the register_port callback, at least not with the way I
> > am
> > using it in my own software (a C#/Mono replacement for QJackCTL
> > https://github.com/residuum/MonoMultiJack), but it probably is an
> > issue
> > in my code.
> >
> > Hth,
> > Thomas
> >
> > On 16.01.2013 18:58, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> > > Hello list,
> > >
> > > Excuse the hassle... But I think this very important ..
> > >
> > > The windows version of pd-extended 0.43 don't have support to
> > > Jack..
> > >
> > > It would be great can connect my new pd extended release to ableton
> > > live to
> > > play a little..
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Patrice Colet]

jackdmp has always worked with pd on windows because it has been using ASIO 
drivers, but with two channels only...

also I'm still using pdvst for playing with Ableton Live on windows, if not in 
debug mode, it's rather stable, and even if it's a 0.37 pd version, we can do a 
lot of thing with, like opening sockets and send MIDI or VST parameters, even 
running vocoder patches, etc ... In other words, no need for jackd, no need for 
maxmsp in Ableton Live...

Would jackd work with more than two in/out channels on windows?

Colet Patrice

- Mail original -
> De: "Thomas Mayer" 
> À: pd-list@iem.at
> Envoyé: Dimanche 27 Janvier 2013 16:59:55
> Objet: Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows
> 
> Hello,
> 
> on Windows only Jackdmp (Jackd2) is available, but the latest version
> of
> Pd-extended (0.43.4-extended) does not work with Jackd2, at least on
> Debian Wheezy.
> 
> It may be fixed, when this patch is applied
> (http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478072&aid=3582739&group_id=55736),
> because Jackd2 has removed jack_client_new () from their interface.
> 
> I have found another issue with jackd2, because hardware ports are
> not
> reported with the register_port callback, at least not with the way I
> am
> using it in my own software (a C#/Mono replacement for QJackCTL
> https://github.com/residuum/MonoMultiJack), but it probably is an
> issue
> in my code.
> 
> Hth,
> Thomas
> 
> On 16.01.2013 18:58, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> > Hello list,
> > 
> > Excuse the hassle... But I think this very important ..
> > 
> > The windows version of pd-extended 0.43 don't have support to
> > Jack..
> > 
> > It would be great can connect my new pd extended release to ableton
> > live to
> > play a little..
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Thomas Mayer]

On 27.01.2013 18:09, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> On 01/27/2013 10:59 AM, Thomas Mayer wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> on Windows only Jackdmp (Jackd2) is available, but the latest version of
>> Pd-extended (0.43.4-extended) does not work with Jackd2, at least on
>> Debian Wheezy.
> 
> Does Pd-vanilla 0.43 or 0.44?  Or does Pd+jackd2 not work anywhere yet?

I have not tried Pd vanilla yet, but will try so in the next days and
then report back.

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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

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On 01/27/2013 10:59 AM, Thomas Mayer wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> on Windows only Jackdmp (Jackd2) is available, but the latest version of
> Pd-extended (0.43.4-extended) does not work with Jackd2, at least on
> Debian Wheezy.

Does Pd-vanilla 0.43 or 0.44?  Or does Pd+jackd2 not work anywhere yet?

> It may be fixed, when this patch is applied
> (http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478072&aid=3582739&group_id=55736),
> because Jackd2 has removed jack_client_new () from their interface.

That patch is already included Pd-extended 0.43.4, so it won't change
Esteban's situation.

.hc

> I have found another issue with jackd2, because hardware ports are not
> reported with the register_port callback, at least not with the way I am
> using it in my own software (a C#/Mono replacement for QJackCTL
> https://github.com/residuum/MonoMultiJack), but it probably is an issue
> in my code.



> 
> Hth,
> Thomas
> 
> On 16.01.2013 18:58, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>> Hello list,
>>
>> Excuse the hassle... But I think this very important ..
>>
>> The windows version of pd-extended 0.43 don't have support to Jack..
>>
>> It would be great can connect my new pd extended release to ableton live to
>> play a little..
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Thomas Mayer]

Hello,

on Windows only Jackdmp (Jackd2) is available, but the latest version of
Pd-extended (0.43.4-extended) does not work with Jackd2, at least on
Debian Wheezy.

It may be fixed, when this patch is applied
(http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478072&aid=3582739&group_id=55736),
because Jackd2 has removed jack_client_new () from their interface.

I have found another issue with jackd2, because hardware ports are not
reported with the register_port callback, at least not with the way I am
using it in my own software (a C#/Mono replacement for QJackCTL
https://github.com/residuum/MonoMultiJack), but it probably is an issue
in my code.

Hth,
Thomas

On 16.01.2013 18:58, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> Hello list,
> 
> Excuse the hassle... But I think this very important ..
> 
> The windows version of pd-extended 0.43 don't have support to Jack..
> 
> It would be great can connect my new pd extended release to ableton live to
> play a little..
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Its great that you got this working!  Once I get the 0.44 builds going, 
hopefully soon, I'll include this there so that the nightly builds will include 
Jack support on Windows.

Sorry I can't help out with the current issues, I just really don't know enough 
about Jack or Windows.

.hc

On Jan 25, 2013, at 10:04 AM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:

> This one missed the list.
> well deserved gratefulness inside ;)
> 
> On 25/01/2013 15:43, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>> HAhahahaha... Windows unsafe..  Yeah! You're right again! 
>> 
>> Many many thanks to HC!! Turning off my humbleness I can say.. I'm your Top 
>> fan! :)
>> 
>> Best Regards!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 2013/1/25 Pierre-Olivier Boulant 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I wouldn't be too worried about turning off UAC and being admin on a Windows 
>> machine. Mine are setup like this and nothing has ever happened because of 
>> that.
>> Most linux users would say Windows is unsafe anyway. ;)
>> 
>> I'm testing your build. This is excellent! Thank you for taking the time to 
>> make this happen.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> pob
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 25/01/2013 14:35, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>>> Yep! Pierre you're right! 
>>> 
>>> I change UAC settings and now I can use all set.. Jack (without 
>>> administrator privileges), Pd (without administrator) and Ableton Live 
>>> (administrator mode). I don't do a hard test but sound is working like a 
>>> video test...
>>> 
>>> The unique problem is my computer with windows 7 are completly unsafe with 
>>> that UAC settings, but that put to work this 3 apps together.
>>> 
>>> The build are in 
>>> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6TScIMkPOGJSHdwZzJVM19CQ00/edit
>>> 
>>> I think that can work in windows 7 x64, I use to built that Mixed 64/32 bit 
>>> Jack 1.9.9 disponible here: http://jackaudio.org/download
>>> 
>>> I don't have certainty if that build can be shared in that way, but we can 
>>> try! ;)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2013/1/25 Pierre-Olivier Boulant 
>>> Hola Esteban,
>>> 
>>> That's very good progress.
>>> I have my account set up as administrator and I have disabled UAC too. Have 
>>> you tried this?
>>> I can try out your built if you want.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Pierre-Olivier
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 25/01/2013 09:47, Esteban Viveros wrote:
 Sorry for delay... 
 
 I do a video to exemplify the procedure I doing... In this try 
 particulary, pd starts in the first try... On others tries I was needed to 
 try twice to open pd...  
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ldcUNoTtoY
 
 More information just ask! ;)
 
 
 2013/1/24 Julian Brooks 
 HI all, hope I'm not barging in...
 
 I've had troubles recently with qjackctl on debian wheezy.  The simplest 
 solution was, as IOhannes   said, have 
 jack running beforehand.  I found just running jackd (the server element) 
 was most reliable.
 
 Mine looks like this for example (from command line):
 jackd -T -ndefault -p 128 -v -R -P 90 -v -T -d alsa -n 2 -r 44100 -p 128  
 -d hw:1,0 -M -H
 
 Trial and error is your friend here.
 
 Best wishes,
 
 Julian
 
 
 
 
 On 24 January 2013 07:11, IOhannes zmölnig  wrote:
 On 01/24/2013 02:09 AM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
 
 But..   I have new problems now.. hhehehehe
 
 When I start pd, I have:
 JACK: unable to connect to JACK server
 JACK: server returned status 17
 
 
 
 try starting the JACK-server before running Pd.
 (Pd is supposed to automatically start jack if it is not runing, but 
 people are reporting problems with that)
 
 fgmadr
 IOhannes
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Pierre-Olivier Boulant]

This one missed the list.
well deserved gratefulness inside ;)

On 25/01/2013 15:43, Esteban Viveros wrote:

HAhahahaha... Windows unsafe..  Yeah! You're right again!

Many many thanks to HC!! Turning off my humbleness I can say.. I'm 
your Top fan! :)


Best Regards!





2013/1/25 Pierre-Olivier Boulant >


Hi,

I wouldn't be too worried about turning off UAC and being admin on
a Windows machine. Mine are setup like this and nothing has ever
happened because of that.
Most linux users would say Windows is unsafe anyway. ;)

I'm testing your build. This is excellent! Thank you for taking
the time to make this happen.

Cheers
pob




On 25/01/2013 14:35, Esteban Viveros wrote:

Yep! Pierre you're right!

I change UAC settings and now I can use all set.. Jack (without
administrator privileges), Pd (without administrator) and Ableton
Live (administrator mode). I don't do a hard test but sound is
working like a video test...

The unique problem is my computer with windows 7 are completly
unsafe with that UAC settings, but that put to work this 3 apps
together.

The build are in
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6TScIMkPOGJSHdwZzJVM19CQ00/edit

I think that can work in windows 7 x64, I use to built that Mixed
64/32 bit Jack 1.9.9 disponible here: http://jackaudio.org/download

I don't have certainty if that build can be shared in that way,
but we can try! ;)


2013/1/25 Pierre-Olivier Boulant mailto:po.boul...@free.fr>>

Hola Esteban,

That's very good progress.
I have my account set up as administrator and I have disabled
UAC too. Have you tried this?
I can try out your built if you want.

Cheers
Pierre-Olivier



On 25/01/2013 09:47, Esteban Viveros wrote:

Sorry for delay...

I do a video to exemplify the procedure I doing... In this
try particulary, pd starts in the first try... On others
tries I was needed to try twice to open pd...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ldcUNoTtoY

More information just ask! ;)


2013/1/24 Julian Brooks mailto:jbee...@gmail.com>>

HI all, hope I'm not barging in...

I've had troubles recently with qjackctl on debian
wheezy.  The simplest solution was, as IOhannes said,
have jack running beforehand.  I found just running
jackd (the server element) was most reliable.

Mine looks like this for example (from command line):
jackd -T -ndefault -p 128 -v -R -P 90 -v -T -d alsa -n 2
-r 44100 -p 128  -d hw:1,0 -M -H

Trial and error is your friend here.

Best wishes,

Julian




On 24 January 2013 07:11, IOhannes zmölnig
mailto:zmoel...@iem.at>> wrote:

On 01/24/2013 02:09 AM, Esteban Viveros wrote:


But..   I have new problems now.. hhehehehe

When I start pd, I have:
JACK: unable to connect to JACK server
JACK: server returned status 17



try starting the JACK-server before running Pd.
(Pd is supposed to automatically start jack if it is
not runing, but people are reporting problems with that)

fgmadr
IOhannes



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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Pierre-Olivier Boulant]

Hi,

I wouldn't be too worried about turning off UAC and being admin on a 
Windows machine. Mine are setup like this and nothing has ever happened 
because of that.

Most linux users would say Windows is unsafe anyway. ;)

I'm testing your build. This is excellent! Thank you for taking the time 
to make this happen.


Cheers
pob



On 25/01/2013 14:35, Esteban Viveros wrote:

Yep! Pierre you're right!

I change UAC settings and now I can use all set.. Jack (without 
administrator privileges), Pd (without administrator) and Ableton Live 
(administrator mode). I don't do a hard test but sound is working like 
a video test...


The unique problem is my computer with windows 7 are completly unsafe 
with that UAC settings, but that put to work this 3 apps together.


The build are in 
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6TScIMkPOGJSHdwZzJVM19CQ00/edit


I think that can work in windows 7 x64, I use to built that Mixed 
64/32 bit Jack 1.9.9 disponible here: http://jackaudio.org/download


I don't have certainty if that build can be shared in that way, but we 
can try! ;)



2013/1/25 Pierre-Olivier Boulant >


Hola Esteban,

That's very good progress.
I have my account set up as administrator and I have disabled UAC
too. Have you tried this?
I can try out your built if you want.

Cheers
Pierre-Olivier



On 25/01/2013 09:47, Esteban Viveros wrote:

Sorry for delay...

I do a video to exemplify the procedure I doing... In this try
particulary, pd starts in the first try... On others tries I was
needed to try twice to open pd...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ldcUNoTtoY

More information just ask! ;)


2013/1/24 Julian Brooks mailto:jbee...@gmail.com>>

HI all, hope I'm not barging in...

I've had troubles recently with qjackctl on debian wheezy. 
The simplest solution was, as IOhannes said, have jack

running beforehand.  I found just running jackd (the server
element) was most reliable.

Mine looks like this for example (from command line):
jackd -T -ndefault -p 128 -v -R -P 90 -v -T -d alsa -n 2 -r
44100 -p 128  -d hw:1,0 -M -H

Trial and error is your friend here.

Best wishes,

Julian




On 24 January 2013 07:11, IOhannes zmölnig mailto:zmoel...@iem.at>> wrote:

On 01/24/2013 02:09 AM, Esteban Viveros wrote:


But..   I have new problems now.. hhehehehe

When I start pd, I have:
JACK: unable to connect to JACK server
JACK: server returned status 17



try starting the JACK-server before running Pd.
(Pd is supposed to automatically start jack if it is not
runing, but people are reporting problems with that)

fgmadr
IOhannes





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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Esteban Viveros]

Yep! Pierre you're right!

I change UAC settings and now I can use all set.. Jack (without
administrator privileges), Pd (without administrator) and Ableton Live
(administrator mode). I don't do a hard test but sound is working like a
video test...

The unique problem is my computer with windows 7 are completly unsafe with
that UAC settings, but that put to work this 3 apps together.

The build are in
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6TScIMkPOGJSHdwZzJVM19CQ00/edit

I think that can work in windows 7 x64, I use to built that Mixed 64/32 bit
Jack 1.9.9 disponible here: http://jackaudio.org/download

I don't have certainty if that build can be shared in that way, but we can
try! ;)


2013/1/25 Pierre-Olivier Boulant 

>  Hola Esteban,
>
> That's very good progress.
> I have my account set up as administrator and I have disabled UAC too.
> Have you tried this?
> I can try out your built if you want.
>
> Cheers
> Pierre-Olivier
>
>
>
> On 25/01/2013 09:47, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>
> Sorry for delay...
>
>  I do a video to exemplify the procedure I doing... In this try
> particulary, pd starts in the first try... On others tries I was needed to
> try twice to open pd...
>
>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ldcUNoTtoY
>
>  More information just ask! ;)
>
>
> 2013/1/24 Julian Brooks 
>
>> HI all, hope I'm not barging in...
>>
>> I've had troubles recently with qjackctl on debian wheezy.  The simplest
>> solution was, as IOhannes said, have jack running beforehand.  I found just
>> running jackd (the server element) was most reliable.
>>
>> Mine looks like this for example (from command line):
>> jackd -T -ndefault -p 128 -v -R -P 90 -v -T -d alsa -n 2 -r 44100 -p 128
>> -d hw:1,0 -M -H
>>
>> Trial and error is your friend here.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Julian
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 24 January 2013 07:11, IOhannes zmölnig  wrote:
>>
>>> On 01/24/2013 02:09 AM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>>>

 But..   I have new problems now.. hhehehehe

 When I start pd, I have:
 JACK: unable to connect to JACK server
 JACK: server returned status 17


>>>
>>>  try starting the JACK-server before running Pd.
>>> (Pd is supposed to automatically start jack if it is not runing, but
>>> people are reporting problems with that)
>>>
>>> fgmadr
>>> IOhannes
>>
>>
>


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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Pierre-Olivier Boulant]

Hola Esteban,

That's very good progress.
I have my account set up as administrator and I have disabled UAC too. 
Have you tried this?

I can try out your built if you want.

Cheers
Pierre-Olivier


On 25/01/2013 09:47, Esteban Viveros wrote:

Sorry for delay...

I do a video to exemplify the procedure I doing... In this try 
particulary, pd starts in the first try... On others tries I was 
needed to try twice to open pd...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ldcUNoTtoY

More information just ask! ;)


2013/1/24 Julian Brooks mailto:jbee...@gmail.com>>

HI all, hope I'm not barging in...

I've had troubles recently with qjackctl on debian wheezy. The
simplest solution was, as IOhannes said, have jack running
beforehand.  I found just running jackd (the server element) was
most reliable.

Mine looks like this for example (from command line):
jackd -T -ndefault -p 128 -v -R -P 90 -v -T -d alsa -n 2 -r 44100
-p 128  -d hw:1,0 -M -H

Trial and error is your friend here.

Best wishes,

Julian




On 24 January 2013 07:11, IOhannes zmölnig mailto:zmoel...@iem.at>> wrote:

On 01/24/2013 02:09 AM, Esteban Viveros wrote:


But..   I have new problems now.. hhehehehe

When I start pd, I have:
JACK: unable to connect to JACK server
JACK: server returned status 17



try starting the JACK-server before running Pd.
(Pd is supposed to automatically start jack if it is not
runing, but people are reporting problems with that)

fgmadr
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Esteban Viveros]

Sorry for delay...

I do a video to exemplify the procedure I doing... In this try particulary,
pd starts in the first try... On others tries I was needed to try twice to
open pd...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ldcUNoTtoY

More information just ask! ;)


2013/1/24 Julian Brooks 

> HI all, hope I'm not barging in...
>
> I've had troubles recently with qjackctl on debian wheezy.  The simplest
> solution was, as IOhannes said, have jack running beforehand.  I found just
> running jackd (the server element) was most reliable.
>
> Mine looks like this for example (from command line):
> jackd -T -ndefault -p 128 -v -R -P 90 -v -T -d alsa -n 2 -r 44100 -p 128
> -d hw:1,0 -M -H
>
> Trial and error is your friend here.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Julian
>
>
>
>
> On 24 January 2013 07:11, IOhannes zmölnig  wrote:
>
>> On 01/24/2013 02:09 AM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> But..   I have new problems now.. hhehehehe
>>>
>>> When I start pd, I have:
>>> JACK: unable to connect to JACK server
>>> JACK: server returned status 17
>>>
>>>
>>
>> try starting the JACK-server before running Pd.
>> (Pd is supposed to automatically start jack if it is not runing, but
>> people are reporting problems with that)
>>
>> fgmadr
>> IOhannes
>>
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Julian Brooks]

HI all, hope I'm not barging in...

I've had troubles recently with qjackctl on debian wheezy.  The simplest
solution was, as IOhannes said, have jack running beforehand.  I found just
running jackd (the server element) was most reliable.

Mine looks like this for example (from command line):
jackd -T -ndefault -p 128 -v -R -P 90 -v -T -d alsa -n 2 -r 44100 -p 128
-d hw:1,0 -M -H

Trial and error is your friend here.

Best wishes,

Julian



On 24 January 2013 07:11, IOhannes zmölnig  wrote:

> On 01/24/2013 02:09 AM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>
>>
>> But..   I have new problems now.. hhehehehe
>>
>> When I start pd, I have:
>> JACK: unable to connect to JACK server
>> JACK: server returned status 17
>>
>>
>
> try starting the JACK-server before running Pd.
> (Pd is supposed to automatically start jack if it is not runing, but
> people are reporting problems with that)
>
> fgmadr
> IOhannes
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

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On 01/24/2013 02:09 AM, Esteban Viveros wrote:


But..   I have new problems now.. hhehehehe

When I start pd, I have:
JACK: unable to connect to JACK server
JACK: server returned status 17




try starting the JACK-server before running Pd.
(Pd is supposed to automatically start jack if it is not runing, but 
people are reporting problems with that)


fgmadr
IOhannes

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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Congratulations!  You're the first to run Pd with Jack on Windows.  Now the
tricky parts of actually getting it working.  I barely use Jack, so I don't
really know what the issue here is.

I don't know exactly what "administrator mode" is, can you explain more or
give an example?  As far as I know, Pd does not need special permissions to
use Jack, but I could be wrong.

.hc


On 01/23/2013 08:33 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> Ok... Windows things...  I restarted twice and pd can work with jack
> without administrator mode...
> 
>  The problem is... Ableton Live ever start in administrator mode... And I
> can't connect it in jack without administrator mode..
> 
> For this thinks I need to connect pd to jack in administrator mode...
> 
> Pd in administrator mode are very bugged, sometimes it open the patch
> without some libraries ( envgen object don't working) sometimes when I try
> to open some patch it closes..
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 2013/1/23 Esteban Viveros 
> 
>> Thanks hc!! Now I have the jack option on pd..
>>
>> But..   I have new problems now.. hhehehehe
>>
>> When I start pd, I have:
>> JACK: unable to connect to JACK server
>> JACK: server returned status 17
>>
>> If I try to edit audio settings, pd have a half freeze.. I can change some
>> options but nothing happend and I can't close pd windows..
>>
>> I tried to pd in administrator mode I can see pd_extended_0 in jack, but
>> pd are "half freezed" too.. I tried to load a patch, but it still loading
>> ad infinitum...
>>
>>
>> 2013/1/23 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>>
>>>
>>> Ok, this built for me, I hope it works for you too.  There is attached a
>>> new
>>> makefile.mingw and another file, s_audio_jack.c.  Copy that to
>>> ~/pure-data/pd/src/ on top of the file that is already there.
>>>
>>> .hc
>>>
>>> On 01/22/2013 05:58 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
 Hum.. Not yet.. I copied the last makefile.mingw, did the clean, try
>>> make
 and I have error 1.. See attached file


 2013/1/22 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

> On 01/22/2013 06:24 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
>> On 2013-01-22 12:21, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>>> Ok.. I will do that... But why until te make clean, yesterday, ir
>>> run the compilation?
>>
>> good point.
>> my hint was merely an assumption what might be causing troubles.
>>
>> in this case: are you sure you are using the correct makefile.mingw
> again?
>
> I added -I"$(PROGRAMFILES)/Jack/include" and removed
> -I/c/Progra~1/Jack/include", that's probably the issue.  Attached is a
> messy
> one again that hopefully works easily.
>
> .hc
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Esteban Viveros]

Thanks hc!! Now I have the jack option on pd..

But..   I have new problems now.. hhehehehe

When I start pd, I have:
JACK: unable to connect to JACK server
JACK: server returned status 17

If I try to edit audio settings, pd have a half freeze.. I can change some
options but nothing happend and I can't close pd windows..

I tried to pd in administrator mode I can see pd_extended_0 in jack, but pd
are "half freezed" too.. I tried to load a patch, but it still loading ad
infinitum...


2013/1/23 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> Ok, this built for me, I hope it works for you too.  There is attached a
> new
> makefile.mingw and another file, s_audio_jack.c.  Copy that to
> ~/pure-data/pd/src/ on top of the file that is already there.
>
> .hc
>
> On 01/22/2013 05:58 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> > Hum.. Not yet.. I copied the last makefile.mingw, did the clean, try make
> > and I have error 1.. See attached file
> >
> >
> > 2013/1/22 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >
> >> On 01/22/2013 06:24 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
> >>> On 2013-01-22 12:21, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>  Ok.. I will do that... But why until te make clean, yesterday, ir
>  run the compilation?
> >>>
> >>> good point.
> >>> my hint was merely an assumption what might be causing troubles.
> >>>
> >>> in this case: are you sure you are using the correct makefile.mingw
> >> again?
> >>
> >> I added -I"$(PROGRAMFILES)/Jack/include" and removed
> >> -I/c/Progra~1/Jack/include", that's probably the issue.  Attached is a
> >> messy
> >> one again that hopefully works easily.
> >>
> >> .hc
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

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Ok, this built for me, I hope it works for you too.  There is attached a new
makefile.mingw and another file, s_audio_jack.c.  Copy that to
~/pure-data/pd/src/ on top of the file that is already there.

.hc

On 01/22/2013 05:58 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> Hum.. Not yet.. I copied the last makefile.mingw, did the clean, try make
> and I have error 1.. See attached file
> 
> 
> 2013/1/22 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> 
>> On 01/22/2013 06:24 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
>>> On 2013-01-22 12:21, Esteban Viveros wrote:
 Ok.. I will do that... But why until te make clean, yesterday, ir
 run the compilation?
>>>
>>> good point.
>>> my hint was merely an assumption what might be causing troubles.
>>>
>>> in this case: are you sure you are using the correct makefile.mingw
>> again?
>>
>> I added -I"$(PROGRAMFILES)/Jack/include" and removed
>> -I/c/Progra~1/Jack/include", that's probably the issue.  Attached is a
>> messy
>> one again that hopefully works easily.
>>
>> .hc
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# how Miller builds Pd on Windows:
# http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2004-10/002981.html

CC = gcc
CXX = g++

cvs_root_dir = ../..
pd_src = $(cvs_root_dir)/pd
DLL_DIR = $(pd_src)/src

BIN_DIR = ../bin

VPATH = $(pd_src)/src

prefix = /usr/local/pd
exec_prefix = $(prefix)
includedir = $(prefix)/include
libdir = $(exec_prefix)/lib
mandir = $(prefix)/man
bindir = $(exec_prefix)/bin

GFLAGS = -DINSTALL_PREFIX=\"$(prefix)\"

# varibles to match packages/Makefile.buildlayout so that they can be easily
# overridden when building Pd-extended builds. 
libpddir = $(prefix)
pddocdir = $(libpddir)/doc
libpdbindir = $(libpddir)/bin

PDEXEC = pd.exe
PDDLL = pd.dll
DLLWRAP= dllwrap

MORECFLAGS = -O3 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer 

PADIR = $(pd_src)/portaudio
ASIODIR = $(pd_src)/asio/ASIOSDK2
ASIOINC = -I$(ASIODIR)/common -I$(ASIODIR)/host -I$(ASIODIR)/host/pc
INCPA = -I$(PADIR) -I$(PADIR)/include -I$(PADIR)/src/common 
-I$(PADIR)/src/os/win $(ASIOINC) -I"$(PROGRAMFILES)/Jack/includes"
INCLUDE = -I$(pd_src)/src
GINCLUDE = -I/usr/local/include $(INCLUDE)

LDFLAGS =
LIBS = -lm -lwsock32 -lwinmm -lole32 -lpthreadGC2 -lregex 
"$(PROGRAMFILES)/Jack/lib/libjack.lib"

OPT_CFLAGS = 

WARN_CFLAGS = -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-unused \
-Wno-unused-parameter -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch
# Some old code in asio/ASIOSDK2/common/combase.h needs to be ignored,
# we do this by setting the WINVER macro to min Windows XP aka 5.1.
# Also, for SetDllDirectory() s_loader.c, we need a minium of Windows
# XP SP1.  WINVER isnt' fine-grained enough for that, so we use the
# next minor version of Windows, 5.2.
ARCH_CFLAGS = -DPD -DPD_INTERNAL -DPA_USE_ASIO -DPA_USE_WMME -DWINVER=0x0502 \
-DUSEAPI_MMIO -DUSEAPI_PORTAUDIO -DUSEAPI_JACK -DJACK_XRUN \
-mms-bitfields -DWISHAPP='"wish85.exe"'

CFLAGS += $(ARCH_CFLAGS) $(WARN_CFLAGS) $(OPT_CFLAGS) $(MORECFLAGS)

STRIP = strip --strip-unneeded -R .note -R .comment

# the sources

PASRC = s_audio_pa.c s_audio_paring.c s_audio_jack.c \
s_audio_mmio.c s_midi_mmio.c \
$(PADIR)/src/common/pa_stream.c \
$(PADIR)/src/common/pa_trace.c \
$(PADIR)/src/common/pa_process.c \
$(PADIR)/src/common/pa_front.c \
$(PADIR)/src/common/pa_dither.c \
$(PADIR)/src/common/pa_cpuload.c \
$(PADIR)/src/common/pa_converters.c \
$(PADIR)/src/common/pa_allocation.c \
$(PADIR)/src/common/pa_ringbuffer.c \
$(PADIR)/src/os/win/pa_win_hostapis.c \
$(PADIR)/src/os/win/pa_win_util.c \
$(PADIR)/src/os/win/pa_win_waveformat.c \
$(PADIR)/src/os/win/pa_win_coinitialize.c \
$(PADIR)/src/hostapi/wmme/pa_win_wmme.c

ASIOSRC =   $(PADIR)/src/hostapi/asio/iasiothiscallresolver.cpp \
$(PADIR)/src/hostapi/asio/pa_asio.cpp \
$(ASIODIR)/common/asio.cpp \
$(ASIODIR)/host/asiodrivers.cpp \
$(ASIODIR)/host/pc/asiolist.cpp

#VSRC =  s_audio_vst.c

PMDIR = ../portmidi
PMINCLUDE = -I$(PMDIR)/pm_common -I$(PMDIR)/pm_win -I$(PMDIR)/porttime 
-DNEWBUFFER
PMSRC = $(PMDIR)/pm_common/portmidi.c \
$(PMDIR)/pm_common/pmutil.c \
$(PMDIR)/porttime/porttime.c \
$(PMDIR)/porttime/ptwinmm.c \
$(PMDIR)/pm_win/pmwin.c \
$(PMDIR)/pm_win/pmwinmm.c

PMOBJ =  $(PMSRC:.c=.o)

HEADERS = g_all_guis.h m_imp.h g_canvas.h m_pd.h s_stuff.h g_magicglass.h \
$(wildcard ../portaudio/common/*.h) s_audio_paring.h scandir.h \
../portaudio/src/os/win/pa_win_coinitialize.h

SRC = g_canvas.c g_graph.c g_text.c g_rtext.c g_array.c g_template.c \
g_io.c g_scalar.c g_traversal.c g_guiconnect.c g_readwrite.c g_editor.c 
\
g_all_guis.c \
m_pd.c m_class.c m_obj.c m_atom.c m_memory.c m_binbuf.c \
m_conf_pdextended.c m

Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Esteban Viveros]

Hum.. Not yet.. I copied the last makefile.mingw, did the clean, try make
and I have error 1.. See attached file


2013/1/22 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

> On 01/22/2013 06:24 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
> > On 2013-01-22 12:21, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> >> Ok.. I will do that... But why until te make clean, yesterday, ir
> >> run the compilation?
> >
> > good point.
> > my hint was merely an assumption what might be causing troubles.
> >
> > in this case: are you sure you are using the correct makefile.mingw
> again?
>
> I added -I"$(PROGRAMFILES)/Jack/include" and removed
> -I/c/Progra~1/Jack/include", that's probably the issue.  Attached is a
> messy
> one again that hopefully works easily.
>
> .hc
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

On 01/22/2013 06:24 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
> On 2013-01-22 12:21, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>> Ok.. I will do that... But why until te make clean, yesterday, ir
>> run the compilation?
> 
> good point.
> my hint was merely an assumption what might be causing troubles.
> 
> in this case: are you sure you are using the correct makefile.mingw again?

I added -I"$(PROGRAMFILES)/Jack/include" and removed
-I/c/Progra~1/Jack/include", that's probably the issue.  Attached is a messy
one again that hopefully works easily.

.hc
# how Miller builds Pd on Windows:
# http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2004-10/002981.html

CC = gcc
CXX = g++

cvs_root_dir = ../..
pd_src = $(cvs_root_dir)/pd
DLL_DIR = $(pd_src)/src

BIN_DIR = ../bin

VPATH = $(pd_src)/src

prefix = /usr/local/pd
exec_prefix = $(prefix)
includedir = $(prefix)/include
libdir = $(exec_prefix)/lib
mandir = $(prefix)/man
bindir = $(exec_prefix)/bin

GFLAGS = -DINSTALL_PREFIX=\"$(prefix)\"

# varibles to match packages/Makefile.buildlayout so that they can be easily
# overridden when building Pd-extended builds. 
libpddir = $(prefix)
pddocdir = $(libpddir)/doc
libpdbindir = $(libpddir)/bin

PDEXEC = pd.exe
PDDLL = pd.dll
DLLWRAP= dllwrap

MORECFLAGS = -O3 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer 

PADIR = $(pd_src)/portaudio
ASIODIR = $(pd_src)/asio/ASIOSDK2
ASIOINC = -I$(ASIODIR)/common -I$(ASIODIR)/host -I$(ASIODIR)/host/pc
INCPA = -I$(PADIR) -I$(PADIR)/include -I$(PADIR)/src/common 
-I$(PADIR)/src/os/win $(ASIOINC)
INCLUDE = -I$(pd_src)/src -I/c/Progra~1/Jack/includes 
-I/c/Progra~2/Jack/includes -I/c/Progra~3/Jack/includes
GINCLUDE = -I/usr/local/include $(INCLUDE)

LDFLAGS = 
LIBS = -lm -lwsock32 -lwinmm -lole32 -lpthreadGC2 
"$(PROGRAMFILES)/Jack/lib/libjack.lib"

OPT_CFLAGS = 

WARN_CFLAGS = -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-unused \
-Wno-unused-parameter -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch
# Some old code in asio/ASIOSDK2/common/combase.h needs to be ignored,
# we do this by setting the WINVER macro to min Windows XP aka 5.1.
# Also, for SetDllDirectory() s_loader.c, we need a minium of Windows
# XP SP1.  WINVER isnt' fine-grained enough for that, so we use the
# next minor version of Windows, 5.2.
ARCH_CFLAGS = -DPD -DPD_INTERNAL -DPA_USE_ASIO -DPA_USE_WMME -DWINVER=0x0502 \
-DUSEAPI_MMIO -DUSEAPI_PORTAUDIO -DUSEAPI_JACK -DJACK_XRUN \
-mms-bitfields -DWISHAPP='"wish85.exe"'

CFLAGS += $(ARCH_CFLAGS) $(WARN_CFLAGS) $(OPT_CFLAGS) $(MORECFLAGS)

STRIP = strip --strip-unneeded -R .note -R .comment

# the sources

PASRC = s_audio_pa.c s_audio_paring.c s_audio_jack.c \
s_audio_mmio.c s_midi_mmio.c \
$(PADIR)/src/common/pa_stream.c \
$(PADIR)/src/common/pa_trace.c \
$(PADIR)/src/common/pa_process.c \
$(PADIR)/src/common/pa_front.c \
$(PADIR)/src/common/pa_dither.c \
$(PADIR)/src/common/pa_cpuload.c \
$(PADIR)/src/common/pa_converters.c \
$(PADIR)/src/common/pa_allocation.c \
$(PADIR)/src/common/pa_ringbuffer.c \
$(PADIR)/src/os/win/pa_win_hostapis.c \
$(PADIR)/src/os/win/pa_win_util.c \
$(PADIR)/src/os/win/pa_win_waveformat.c \
$(PADIR)/src/os/win/pa_win_coinitialize.c \
$(PADIR)/src/hostapi/wmme/pa_win_wmme.c

ASIOSRC =   $(PADIR)/src/hostapi/asio/iasiothiscallresolver.cpp \
$(PADIR)/src/hostapi/asio/pa_asio.cpp \
$(ASIODIR)/common/asio.cpp \
$(ASIODIR)/host/asiodrivers.cpp \
$(ASIODIR)/host/pc/asiolist.cpp

#VSRC =  s_audio_vst.c

PMDIR = ../portmidi
PMINCLUDE = -I$(PMDIR)/pm_common -I$(PMDIR)/pm_win -I$(PMDIR)/porttime 
-DNEWBUFFER
PMSRC = $(PMDIR)/pm_common/portmidi.c \
$(PMDIR)/pm_common/pmutil.c \
$(PMDIR)/porttime/porttime.c \
$(PMDIR)/porttime/ptwinmm.c \
$(PMDIR)/pm_win/pmwin.c \
$(PMDIR)/pm_win/pmwinmm.c

PMOBJ =  $(PMSRC:.c=.o)

HEADERS = g_all_guis.h m_imp.h g_canvas.h m_pd.h s_stuff.h g_magicglass.h \
$(wildcard ../portaudio/common/*.h) s_audio_paring.h scandir.h \
../portaudio/src/os/win/pa_win_coinitialize.h

SRC = g_canvas.c g_graph.c g_text.c g_rtext.c g_array.c g_template.c \
g_io.c g_scalar.c g_traversal.c g_guiconnect.c g_readwrite.c g_editor.c 
\
g_all_guis.c \
m_pd.c m_class.c m_obj.c m_atom.c m_memory.c m_binbuf.c \
m_conf_pdextended.c m_glob.c m_sched.c \
s_main.c s_inter.c s_file.c s_print.c \
s_loader.c s_path.c s_entry.c s_audio.c s_midi.c \
s_utf8.c \
d_ugen.c d_ctl.c d_arithmetic.c d_osc.c d_filter.c \
d_math.c d_array.c d_global.c \
d_delay.c d_resample.c \
x_arithmetic.c x_connective.c \
x_acoustics.c d_soundfile.c \
e_fft.c e_gfxstub.c e_dac.c e_midi.c \
g_magicglass.c \
scandir.c \
import.c path.c print.c closebang.c initbang.c loadbang.c

# FFTW
#SRC +=  d_fft_fftw.c d_fftroutine.c
# Mayer FFT
SRC +=  d_fft_mayer.c d_fftroutine.c

SRSRC = u_pdsend.c u_pdreceive.c

O

Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

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On 01/22/2013 07:10 AM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> Now I can do the compilation, but I have the same results of
> yesterday...
> 
> Issues:
> 
> - Running make -f makefile.mingw clean  I can't complete the
> compilation, se attached log file. - To do the compilation I needed to do
> make -f makefile.mingw with the 3 last versions of makefile.mingw, first
> 17 jan version, after 20 jan version and at last the 21jan version. All
> without make clean..
> 
> Remembering after make -f makefile.mingw I ran: make -f makefile.mingw
> DESTDIR=~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117 prefix= I have the
> message: make: Nothing to be done for `all'. Trying to open pd.exe in
> ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin I don't have jackrouter
> option like in ableton live for example...
> 
> Then I see I'm forgot one "install" command and I ran that and I have: 
> install: missing file operand Try `install --help' for more information.

The 'install' needs to be at the end of the line.  All of this stuff below
needs to be on one single line so its one command, with 'install' being the
last thing on the line

make -f makefile.mingw DESTDIR=~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117
prefix= install




.hc


> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 2013/1/22 IOhannes m zmoelnig 
> 
> On 2013-01-22 12:21, Esteban Viveros wrote:
 Ok.. I will do that... But why until te make clean, yesterday, ir 
 run the compilation?
> 
> good point. my hint was merely an assumption what might be causing
> troubles.
> 
> in this case: are you sure you are using the correct makefile.mingw
> again?
> 
> 
> fgmadr IOhannes
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Esteban Viveros]

Now I can do the compilation, but I have the same results of yesterday...

Issues:

- Running make -f makefile.mingw clean  I can't complete the compilation,
se attached log file.
- To do the compilation I needed to do make -f makefile.mingw with the 3
last versions of makefile.mingw, first 17 jan version, after 20 jan version
and at last the 21jan version.
All without make clean..

Remembering after make -f makefile.mingw I ran:
make -f makefile.mingw DESTDIR=~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117
prefix=
I have the message:
make: Nothing to be done for `all'.
Trying to open pd.exe in ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin I
don't have jackrouter option like in ableton live for example...

Then I see I'm forgot one "install" command and I ran that and I have:
install: missing file operand
Try `install --help' for more information.







2013/1/22 IOhannes m zmoelnig 

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> On 2013-01-22 12:21, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> > Ok.. I will do that... But why until te make clean, yesterday, ir
> > run the compilation?
>
> good point.
> my hint was merely an assumption what might be causing troubles.
>
> in this case: are you sure you are using the correct makefile.mingw again?
>
>
> fgmadr
> IOhannes
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

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On 2013-01-22 12:21, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> Ok.. I will do that... But why until te make clean, yesterday, ir
> run the compilation?

good point.
my hint was merely an assumption what might be causing troubles.

in this case: are you sure you are using the correct makefile.mingw again?


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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[IOhannes m zmoelnig]

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On 2013-01-22 12:04, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
> On 2013-01-22 11:57, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>> Now I can't conclude the compilation...
> 
>> I did: cd ~/pure-data/pd/src make -f makefile.mingw clean make
>> -f makefile.mingw
> 
>> Something in jack.h ... I have this file in C:/Program Files 
>> (x86)/Jack/includes/jack
> 
>> What can I do?
> 
> install it to a location

"it" being the jack library and headers.

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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

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> Now I can't conclude the compilation...
> 
> I did: cd ~/pure-data/pd/src make -f makefile.mingw clean make -f
> makefile.mingw
> 
> Something in jack.h ... I have this file in C:/Program Files 
> (x86)/Jack/includes/jack
> 
> What can I do?

install it to a location that does not have spaces in it. (but then
you would need to adjust the makefile.mingw to reflext those new paths)
make is well-known for having problems with spaces in paths.

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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Esteban Viveros]

Now I can't conclude the compilation...

I did:
cd ~/pure-data/pd/src
make -f makefile.mingw clean
make -f makefile.mingw

Something in jack.h ... I have this file in C:/Program Files
(x86)/Jack/includes/jack

What can I do?


2013/1/22 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> Ah, I think I know the issue, try rebulding it, there were a couple of
> changes
> in the latest makefile.mingw that didn't take effect:
>
> cd ~/pure-data/src
> make -f makefile.mingw clean
> make -f makefile.mingw
> make -f makefile.mingw DESTDIR=~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117
> prefix=
> install
>
>
> Then the one you want is in:
> ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin
>
> You can't run it directly in ~/pure-data/pd/src because it is missing all
> of
> the Tcl files that are in ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin
>
> .hc
>
> On 01/21/2013 09:19 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> > Yes... Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117 ..  Nut I need to run the pd.exe in
> > ~/pure-data/pd/src or ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin ??
> >
> > ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin/pd.exe are running.. But I
> > don't have jackrouter option...
> >
> > ~/pure-data/pd/src/pd.exe nothing happens
> >
> >
> > 2013/1/22 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >
> >>
> >> You can look at the date on the pd.exe in
> >> ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin and see if its your new one.
> >>  And
> >> make sure this is all on the same line:
> >>
> >>  make -f makefile.mingw DESTDIR=~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117
> >> prefix= install
> >>
> >> .hc
> >>
> >> On 01/21/2013 09:11 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> >>> Yeah.. I'm trying that but nothind happend..  Maybe the pd-extended
> >>> installed in system...??
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2013/1/22 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >>>
> 
>  * download the zip version:
> 
> 
> >>
> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2013-01-17/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117-windowsxp-i386.zip
> 
>  * unzip it into ~/pure-data
> 
>  * in ~/pure-data/pd/src, run:
>  make -f makefile.mingw DESTDIR=~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117
>  prefix=
>  install
> 
>  (make sure the last line is all on one line)
> 
>  Now you should be able to go to
> >> ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin
>  and run pd.exe and have a working Pd with jack (fingers crossed)
> 
>  .hc
> 
>  On 01/21/2013 09:05 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> > Ok.. It's done!
> >
> > How to play?
> >
> >
> > 2013/1/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >
> >>
> >> Getting closer... try the newly attached makefile.
> >>
> >> .hc
> >>
> >> On 01/21/2013 07:25 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> >>> 2013/1/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >>>
>  once you get the asiosdk2.2.zip, then unzip it into
>  ~/pure-data/pd/asio
> >> so
>  that there is a folder called ASIOSDK2 like this:
>  ~/pure-data/pd/asio/ASIOSDK2
> 
> >>>
> >>> Ok! It's done.
> >>>
> >>> New log file
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>



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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Ah, I think I know the issue, try rebulding it, there were a couple of changes
in the latest makefile.mingw that didn't take effect:

cd ~/pure-data/src
make -f makefile.mingw clean
make -f makefile.mingw
make -f makefile.mingw DESTDIR=~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117 prefix=
install


Then the one you want is in:
~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin

You can't run it directly in ~/pure-data/pd/src because it is missing all of
the Tcl files that are in ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin

.hc

On 01/21/2013 09:19 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> Yes... Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117 ..  Nut I need to run the pd.exe in
> ~/pure-data/pd/src or ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin ??
> 
> ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin/pd.exe are running.. But I
> don't have jackrouter option...
> 
> ~/pure-data/pd/src/pd.exe nothing happens
> 
> 
> 2013/1/22 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> 
>>
>> You can look at the date on the pd.exe in
>> ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin and see if its your new one.
>>  And
>> make sure this is all on the same line:
>>
>>  make -f makefile.mingw DESTDIR=~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117
>> prefix= install
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On 01/21/2013 09:11 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>>> Yeah.. I'm trying that but nothind happend..  Maybe the pd-extended
>>> installed in system...??
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/1/22 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>>>

 * download the zip version:


>> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2013-01-17/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117-windowsxp-i386.zip

 * unzip it into ~/pure-data

 * in ~/pure-data/pd/src, run:
 make -f makefile.mingw DESTDIR=~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117
 prefix=
 install

 (make sure the last line is all on one line)

 Now you should be able to go to
>> ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin
 and run pd.exe and have a working Pd with jack (fingers crossed)

 .hc

 On 01/21/2013 09:05 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> Ok.. It's done!
>
> How to play?
>
>
> 2013/1/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>
>>
>> Getting closer... try the newly attached makefile.
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On 01/21/2013 07:25 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>>> 2013/1/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>>>
 once you get the asiosdk2.2.zip, then unzip it into
 ~/pure-data/pd/asio
>> so
 that there is a folder called ASIOSDK2 like this:
 ~/pure-data/pd/asio/ASIOSDK2

>>>
>>> Ok! It's done.
>>>
>>> New log file
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Esteban Viveros]

I tried to run in ~/pure-data/pd/src/pd in cms and I have:

C:\MinGW\msys\1.0\home\Esteban\pure-data\pd\src>pd
spawnl: No such file or directory
C:\MinGW\msys\1.0\home\Esteban\pure-data\pd\bin\wish85.exe: couldn't load
TCL


2013/1/22 Esteban Viveros 

> Yes... Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117 ..  Nut I need to run the pd.exe in
> ~/pure-data/pd/src or ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin ??
>
> ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin/pd.exe are running.. But I
> don't have jackrouter option...
>
> ~/pure-data/pd/src/pd.exe nothing happens
>
>
> 2013/1/22 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>
>>
>> You can look at the date on the pd.exe in
>> ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin and see if its your new one.
>>  And
>> make sure this is all on the same line:
>>
>>  make -f makefile.mingw DESTDIR=~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117
>> prefix= install
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On 01/21/2013 09:11 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>> > Yeah.. I'm trying that but nothind happend..  Maybe the pd-extended
>> > installed in system...??
>> >
>> >
>> > 2013/1/22 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>> >
>> >>
>> >> * download the zip version:
>> >>
>> >>
>> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2013-01-17/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117-windowsxp-i386.zip
>> >>
>> >> * unzip it into ~/pure-data
>> >>
>> >> * in ~/pure-data/pd/src, run:
>> >> make -f makefile.mingw DESTDIR=~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117
>> >> prefix=
>> >> install
>> >>
>> >> (make sure the last line is all on one line)
>> >>
>> >> Now you should be able to go to
>> ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin
>> >> and run pd.exe and have a working Pd with jack (fingers crossed)
>> >>
>> >> .hc
>> >>
>> >> On 01/21/2013 09:05 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>> >>> Ok.. It's done!
>> >>>
>> >>> How to play?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> 2013/1/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>> >>>
>> 
>>  Getting closer... try the newly attached makefile.
>> 
>>  .hc
>> 
>>  On 01/21/2013 07:25 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>> > 2013/1/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>> >
>> >> once you get the asiosdk2.2.zip, then unzip it into
>> >> ~/pure-data/pd/asio
>>  so
>> >> that there is a folder called ASIOSDK2 like this:
>> >> ~/pure-data/pd/asio/ASIOSDK2
>> >>
>> >
>> > Ok! It's done.
>> >
>> > New log file
>> >
>> >
>> 
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Esteban Viveros]

Yes... Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117 ..  Nut I need to run the pd.exe in
~/pure-data/pd/src or ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin ??

~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin/pd.exe are running.. But I
don't have jackrouter option...

~/pure-data/pd/src/pd.exe nothing happens


2013/1/22 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> You can look at the date on the pd.exe in
> ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin and see if its your new one.
>  And
> make sure this is all on the same line:
>
>  make -f makefile.mingw DESTDIR=~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117
> prefix= install
>
> .hc
>
> On 01/21/2013 09:11 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> > Yeah.. I'm trying that but nothind happend..  Maybe the pd-extended
> > installed in system...??
> >
> >
> > 2013/1/22 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >
> >>
> >> * download the zip version:
> >>
> >>
> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2013-01-17/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117-windowsxp-i386.zip
> >>
> >> * unzip it into ~/pure-data
> >>
> >> * in ~/pure-data/pd/src, run:
> >> make -f makefile.mingw DESTDIR=~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117
> >> prefix=
> >> install
> >>
> >> (make sure the last line is all on one line)
> >>
> >> Now you should be able to go to
> ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin
> >> and run pd.exe and have a working Pd with jack (fingers crossed)
> >>
> >> .hc
> >>
> >> On 01/21/2013 09:05 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> >>> Ok.. It's done!
> >>>
> >>> How to play?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2013/1/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >>>
> 
>  Getting closer... try the newly attached makefile.
> 
>  .hc
> 
>  On 01/21/2013 07:25 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> > 2013/1/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >
> >> once you get the asiosdk2.2.zip, then unzip it into
> >> ~/pure-data/pd/asio
>  so
> >> that there is a folder called ASIOSDK2 like this:
> >> ~/pure-data/pd/asio/ASIOSDK2
> >>
> >
> > Ok! It's done.
> >
> > New log file
> >
> >
> 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>



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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

You can look at the date on the pd.exe in
~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin and see if its your new one.  And
make sure this is all on the same line:

 make -f makefile.mingw DESTDIR=~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117
prefix= install

.hc

On 01/21/2013 09:11 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> Yeah.. I'm trying that but nothind happend..  Maybe the pd-extended
> installed in system...??
> 
> 
> 2013/1/22 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> 
>>
>> * download the zip version:
>>
>> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2013-01-17/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117-windowsxp-i386.zip
>>
>> * unzip it into ~/pure-data
>>
>> * in ~/pure-data/pd/src, run:
>> make -f makefile.mingw DESTDIR=~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117
>> prefix=
>> install
>>
>> (make sure the last line is all on one line)
>>
>> Now you should be able to go to ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin
>> and run pd.exe and have a working Pd with jack (fingers crossed)
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On 01/21/2013 09:05 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>>> Ok.. It's done!
>>>
>>> How to play?
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/1/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>>>

 Getting closer... try the newly attached makefile.

 .hc

 On 01/21/2013 07:25 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> 2013/1/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>
>> once you get the asiosdk2.2.zip, then unzip it into
>> ~/pure-data/pd/asio
 so
>> that there is a folder called ASIOSDK2 like this:
>> ~/pure-data/pd/asio/ASIOSDK2
>>
>
> Ok! It's done.
>
> New log file
>
>

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Esteban Viveros]

Yeah.. I'm trying that but nothind happend..  Maybe the pd-extended
installed in system...??


2013/1/22 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> * download the zip version:
>
> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2013-01-17/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117-windowsxp-i386.zip
>
> * unzip it into ~/pure-data
>
> * in ~/pure-data/pd/src, run:
> make -f makefile.mingw DESTDIR=~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117
> prefix=
> install
>
> (make sure the last line is all on one line)
>
> Now you should be able to go to ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin
> and run pd.exe and have a working Pd with jack (fingers crossed)
>
> .hc
>
> On 01/21/2013 09:05 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> > Ok.. It's done!
> >
> > How to play?
> >
> >
> > 2013/1/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >
> >>
> >> Getting closer... try the newly attached makefile.
> >>
> >> .hc
> >>
> >> On 01/21/2013 07:25 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> >>> 2013/1/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >>>
>  once you get the asiosdk2.2.zip, then unzip it into
> ~/pure-data/pd/asio
> >> so
>  that there is a folder called ASIOSDK2 like this:
>  ~/pure-data/pd/asio/ASIOSDK2
> 
> >>>
> >>> Ok! It's done.
> >>>
> >>> New log file
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>



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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

* download the zip version:
http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2013-01-17/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117-windowsxp-i386.zip

* unzip it into ~/pure-data

* in ~/pure-data/pd/src, run:
make -f makefile.mingw DESTDIR=~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117 prefix=
install

(make sure the last line is all on one line)

Now you should be able to go to ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin
and run pd.exe and have a working Pd with jack (fingers crossed)

.hc

On 01/21/2013 09:05 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> Ok.. It's done!
> 
> How to play?
> 
> 
> 2013/1/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> 
>>
>> Getting closer... try the newly attached makefile.
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On 01/21/2013 07:25 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>>> 2013/1/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>>>
 once you get the asiosdk2.2.zip, then unzip it into ~/pure-data/pd/asio
>> so
 that there is a folder called ASIOSDK2 like this:
 ~/pure-data/pd/asio/ASIOSDK2

>>>
>>> Ok! It's done.
>>>
>>> New log file
>>>
>>>
>>
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Esteban Viveros]

Ok.. It's done!

How to play?


2013/1/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> Getting closer... try the newly attached makefile.
>
> .hc
>
> On 01/21/2013 07:25 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> > 2013/1/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >
> >> once you get the asiosdk2.2.zip, then unzip it into ~/pure-data/pd/asio
> so
> >> that there is a folder called ASIOSDK2 like this:
> >> ~/pure-data/pd/asio/ASIOSDK2
> >>
> >
> > Ok! It's done.
> >
> > New log file
> >
> >
>



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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Getting closer... try the newly attached makefile.

.hc

On 01/21/2013 07:25 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> 2013/1/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> 
>> once you get the asiosdk2.2.zip, then unzip it into ~/pure-data/pd/asio so
>> that there is a folder called ASIOSDK2 like this:
>> ~/pure-data/pd/asio/ASIOSDK2
>>
> 
> Ok! It's done.
> 
> New log file
> 
> 
# how Miller builds Pd on Windows:
# http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2004-10/002981.html

CC = gcc
CXX = g++

cvs_root_dir = ../..
pd_src = $(cvs_root_dir)/pd
DLL_DIR = $(pd_src)/src

BIN_DIR = ../bin

VPATH = $(pd_src)/src

prefix = /usr/local/pd
exec_prefix = $(prefix)
includedir = $(prefix)/include
libdir = $(exec_prefix)/lib
mandir = $(prefix)/man
bindir = $(exec_prefix)/bin

GFLAGS = -DINSTALL_PREFIX=\"$(prefix)\"

# varibles to match packages/Makefile.buildlayout so that they can be easily
# overridden when building Pd-extended builds. 
libpddir = $(prefix)
pddocdir = $(libpddir)/doc
libpdbindir = $(libpddir)/bin

PDEXEC = pd.exe
PDDLL = pd.dll
DLLWRAP= dllwrap

MORECFLAGS = -O3 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer 

PADIR = $(pd_src)/portaudio
ASIODIR = $(pd_src)/asio/ASIOSDK2
ASIOINC = -I$(ASIODIR)/common -I$(ASIODIR)/host -I$(ASIODIR)/host/pc
INCPA = -I$(PADIR) -I$(PADIR)/include -I$(PADIR)/src/common 
-I$(PADIR)/src/os/win $(ASIOINC)
INCLUDE = -I$(pd_src)/src -I"$(PROGRAMFILES)/Jack/includes"
GINCLUDE = -I/usr/local/include $(INCLUDE)

LDFLAGS = -L"$(PROGRAMFILES)/Jack/lib"
LIBS = -lm -lwsock32 -lwinmm -lole32 -lpthreadGC2 
"$(PROGRAMFILES)/Jack/lib/libjack.lib"

OPT_CFLAGS = 

WARN_CFLAGS = -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-unused \
-Wno-unused-parameter -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch
# Some old code in asio/ASIOSDK2/common/combase.h needs to be ignored,
# we do this by setting the WINVER macro to min Windows XP aka 5.1.
# Also, for SetDllDirectory() s_loader.c, we need a minium of Windows
# XP SP1.  WINVER isnt' fine-grained enough for that, so we use the
# next minor version of Windows, 5.2.
ARCH_CFLAGS = -DPD -DPD_INTERNAL -DPA_USE_ASIO -DPA_USE_WMME -DWINVER=0x0502 \
-DUSEAPI_MMIO -DUSEAPI_PORTAUDIO -DUSEAPI_JACK -DJACK_XRUN \
-mms-bitfields -DWISHAPP='"wish85.exe"'

CFLAGS += $(ARCH_CFLAGS) $(WARN_CFLAGS) $(OPT_CFLAGS) $(MORECFLAGS)

STRIP = strip --strip-unneeded -R .note -R .comment

# the sources

PASRC = s_audio_pa.c s_audio_paring.c s_audio_jack.c \
s_audio_mmio.c s_midi_mmio.c \
$(PADIR)/src/common/pa_stream.c \
$(PADIR)/src/common/pa_trace.c \
$(PADIR)/src/common/pa_process.c \
$(PADIR)/src/common/pa_front.c \
$(PADIR)/src/common/pa_dither.c \
$(PADIR)/src/common/pa_cpuload.c \
$(PADIR)/src/common/pa_converters.c \
$(PADIR)/src/common/pa_allocation.c \
$(PADIR)/src/common/pa_ringbuffer.c \
$(PADIR)/src/os/win/pa_win_hostapis.c \
$(PADIR)/src/os/win/pa_win_util.c \
$(PADIR)/src/os/win/pa_win_waveformat.c \
$(PADIR)/src/os/win/pa_win_coinitialize.c \
$(PADIR)/src/hostapi/wmme/pa_win_wmme.c

ASIOSRC =   $(PADIR)/src/hostapi/asio/iasiothiscallresolver.cpp \
$(PADIR)/src/hostapi/asio/pa_asio.cpp \
$(ASIODIR)/common/asio.cpp \
$(ASIODIR)/host/asiodrivers.cpp \
$(ASIODIR)/host/pc/asiolist.cpp

#VSRC =  s_audio_vst.c

PMDIR = ../portmidi
PMINCLUDE = -I$(PMDIR)/pm_common -I$(PMDIR)/pm_win -I$(PMDIR)/porttime 
-DNEWBUFFER
PMSRC = $(PMDIR)/pm_common/portmidi.c \
$(PMDIR)/pm_common/pmutil.c \
$(PMDIR)/porttime/porttime.c \
$(PMDIR)/porttime/ptwinmm.c \
$(PMDIR)/pm_win/pmwin.c \
$(PMDIR)/pm_win/pmwinmm.c

PMOBJ =  $(PMSRC:.c=.o)

HEADERS = g_all_guis.h m_imp.h g_canvas.h m_pd.h s_stuff.h g_magicglass.h \
$(wildcard ../portaudio/common/*.h) s_audio_paring.h scandir.h \
../portaudio/src/os/win/pa_win_coinitialize.h

SRC = g_canvas.c g_graph.c g_text.c g_rtext.c g_array.c g_template.c \
g_io.c g_scalar.c g_traversal.c g_guiconnect.c g_readwrite.c g_editor.c 
\
g_all_guis.c \
m_pd.c m_class.c m_obj.c m_atom.c m_memory.c m_binbuf.c \
m_conf_pdextended.c m_glob.c m_sched.c \
s_main.c s_inter.c s_file.c s_print.c \
s_loader.c s_path.c s_entry.c s_audio.c s_midi.c \
s_utf8.c \
d_ugen.c d_ctl.c d_arithmetic.c d_osc.c d_filter.c \
d_math.c d_array.c d_global.c \
d_delay.c d_resample.c \
x_arithmetic.c x_connective.c \
x_acoustics.c d_soundfile.c \
e_fft.c e_gfxstub.c e_dac.c e_midi.c \
g_magicglass.c \
scandir.c \
import.c path.c print.c closebang.c initbang.c loadbang.c

# FFTW
#SRC +=  d_fft_fftw.c d_fftroutine.c
# Mayer FFT
SRC +=  d_fft_mayer.c d_fftroutine.c

SRSRC = u_pdsend.c u_pdreceive.c

OBJ = $(SRC:.c=.o) 
SROBJ = $(SRSRC:.c=.o) 
PAOBJ = $(PASRC:.c=.o)
ASIOOBJ = $(ASIOSRC:.cpp=.o)
#VOBJ = $(VSRC:.c=.o)
OBJC = $(OBJ) $(PAOBJ) $(ASIOOBJ) $(PMOBJ)


# get version from m_pd.h to use in 

Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Esteban Viveros]

2013/1/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

> once you get the asiosdk2.2.zip, then unzip it into ~/pure-data/pd/asio so
> that there is a folder called ASIOSDK2 like this:
> ~/pure-data/pd/asio/ASIOSDK2
>

Ok! It's done.

New log file


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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

You need to get the ASIO files:

http://puredata.info/docs/developer/WindowsMinGW

once you get the asiosdk2.2.zip, then unzip it into ~/pure-data/pd/asio so
that there is a folder called ASIOSDK2 like this: ~/pure-data/pd/asio/ASIOSDK2

.hc

On 01/21/2013 07:15 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> 2013/1/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> 
>> Did you replace the makefile.mingw?
> 
> 
> Ops... My fault... I'm was tried the worng makefile.mingw ..  :/
> Excuses...
> 
> Now I have new troubles.. :)
> 
> See make.log attached... (Thanks IOhannes!!)
> 
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

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2013/1/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

> Did you replace the makefile.mingw?


Ops... My fault... I'm was tried the worng makefile.mingw ..  :/
Excuses...

Now I have new troubles.. :)

See make.log attached... (Thanks IOhannes!!)


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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

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On 01/21/2013 06:44 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> 2013/1/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> 
>> MinGW Shell is what you want.  They used to call that the MSYS shell.
> 
> 
> Ok.. I tryed it... Same output...

Did you replace the makefile.mingw?

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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

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2013/1/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

> MinGW Shell is what you want.  They used to call that the MSYS shell.


Ok.. I tryed it... Same output...


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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

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2013/1/21 Esteban Viveros 

> Well.. I have here only MinGW shell and Uninstall mingw-get on MinGW
> menu..


I don't know... But using MinGW shell I have the same output... This shell
is not the same msys shell?

I tried in mingw shell the command (http://www.mingw.org/wiki/MSYS):
mount c:/mingw /mingw

 and I have:
/bin/mount: mount point '/mingw' is already in use

This may mean that everything is ok with msys?

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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Esteban Viveros]

Yeah.. I can gender a log file now.. The next log I will use that! Thanks!


2013/1/20 IOhannes zmölnig 

> On 01/20/2013 01:50 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>
>> HC, can the compilation process gender a log file?
>>
>>
>>
> i'm not HC, but hopefully i can give some hints.
>
> $ make > make.log
>
> will redirect all stdout to make.log
> since most errors got to stderr, you probably want to do:
>
> $ make > make.log 2>&1
>
> which will first redirect stderr to stdout, and then capture stdout to
> make.log.
>
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

MinGW Shell is what you want.  They used to call that the MSYS shell.

.hc

On 01/21/2013 06:14 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> Well.. I have here only MinGW shell and Uninstall mingw-get on MinGW menu..
> 
> 
> 
> 2013/1/20 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> 
>>
>> Ok, that's much better! Try the attached makefile.mingw.  The problem is
>> actually here:
>>
>>> /bin/sh: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `('
>>> /bin/sh: -c: line 0: `gcc -I../../pd/src -IC:\Program Files
>>> (x86)/Jack/includes
>>> -I/c/Progra~1/jack/includes -I/c/Progra~2/jack/includes
>>> -I/c/Progra~3/jack/includes
>>
>> Also, it looks like you're using cmd.exe, like I think patco said.  You
>> should
>> use the MinGW Shell, it is sometimes called MSYS.  You can find it in your
>> Program Files menu under MinGW.  Building Pd-extended might work under
>> cmd.exe, but I've never tried.  I always use the MinGW MSYS shell.
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On 01/20/2013 07:56 AM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>>> Finally! That's the result of my attempting compilation
>>>
>>> C:\MinGW\msys\1.0\home\Esteban\pure-data\pd\src>make -f makefile.mingw
>>> makefile.mingw:300: makefile.dependencies: No such file or directory
>>> gcc -I../../pd/src -IC:\Program Files (x86)/Jack/includes
>>> -I/c/Progra~1/jack/inc
>>> ludes -I/c/Progra~2/jack/includes -I/c/Progra~3/jack/includes
>>> -I../../pd/portaud
>>> io -I../../pd/portaudio/include -I../../pd/portaudio/src/common
>>> -I../../pd/porta
>>> udio/src/os/win -I../../pd/asio/ASIOSDK2/common
>>> -I../../pd/asio/ASIOSDK2/host -I
>>> ../../pd/asio/ASIOSDK2/host/pc -DPD -DPD_INTERNAL -DPA_USE_ASIO
>>> -DPA_USE_WMME -D
>>> WINVER=0x0502  -DUSEAPI_MMIO -DUSEAPI_PORTAUDIO -mms-bitfields
>>> -DWISHAPP='"wish8
>>> 5.exe"' -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-unused  -Wno-unused-parameter
>>> -Wno-par
>>> entheses -Wno-switch  -O3 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer  -M
>>> g_canvas.c g_g
>>> raph.c g_text.c g_rtext.c g_array.c g_template.c  g_io.c g_scalar.c
>>> g_traversal.
>>> c g_guiconnect.c g_readwrite.c g_editor.c  g_all_guis.c  m_pd.c m_class.c
>>> m_obj.
>>> c m_atom.c m_memory.c m_binbuf.c  m_conf_pdextended.c m_glob.c m_sched.c
>>>  s_main
>>> .c s_inter.c s_file.c s_print.c  s_loader.c s_path.c s_entry.c s_audio.c
>>> s_midi.
>>> c  s_utf8.c  d_ugen.c d_ctl.c d_arithmetic.c d_osc.c d_filter.c  d_math.c
>>> d_arra
>>> y.c d_global.c  d_delay.c d_resample.c  x_arithmetic.c x_connective.c
>>>  x_acousti
>>> cs.c d_soundfile.c  e_fft.c e_gfxstub.c e_dac.c e_midi.c  g_magicglass.c
>>>  scandi
>>> r.c  import.c path.c print.c closebang.c initbang.c loadbang.c
>>> d_fft_mayer.c d_f
>>> ftroutine.c s_audio_pa.c s_audio_paring.c s_audio_jack.c  s_audio_mmio.c
>>> s_midi_
>>> mmio.c  ../../pd/portaudio/src/common/pa_stream.c
>>>  ../../pd/portaudio/src/common
>>> /pa_trace.c  ../../pd/portaudio/src/common/pa_process.c
>>>  ../../pd/portaudio/src/
>>> common/pa_front.c  ../../pd/portaudio/src/common/pa_dither.c
>>>  ../../pd/portaudio
>>> /src/common/pa_cpuload.c  ../../pd/portaudio/src/common/pa_converters.c
>>>  ../../p
>>> d/portaudio/src/common/pa_allocation.c
>>>  ../../pd/portaudio/src/common/pa_ringbuf
>>> fer.c  ../../pd/portaudio/src/os/win/pa_win_hostapis.c
>>>  ../../pd/portaudio/src/o
>>> s/win/pa_win_util.c  ../../pd/portaudio/src/os/win/pa_win_waveformat.c
>>>  ../../pd
>>> /portaudio/src/os/win/pa_win_coinitialize.c
>>>  ../../pd/portaudio/src/hostapi/wmme
>>> /pa_win_wmme.c g_all_guis.h m_imp.h g_canvas.h m_pd.h s_stuff.h
>>> g_magicglass.h
>>>  s_audio_paring.h scandir.h
>>  ../portaudio/src/os/win/pa_win_coinitialize.h \
>>> > makefile.dependencies
>>> /bin/sh: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `('
>>> /bin/sh: -c: line 0: `gcc -I../../pd/src -IC:\Program Files
>>> (x86)/Jack/includes
>>> -I/c/Progra~1/jack/includes -I/c/Progra~2/jack/includes
>>> -I/c/Progra~3/jack/inclu
>>> des -I../../pd/portaudio -I../../pd/portaudio/include
>>> -I../../pd/portaudio/src/c
>>> ommon -I../../pd/portaudio/src/os/win -I../../pd/asio/ASIOSDK2/common
>>> -I../../pd
>>> /asio/ASIOSDK2/host -I../../pd/asio/ASIOSDK2/host/pc -DPD -DPD_INTERNAL
>>> -DPA_USE
>>> _ASIO -DPA_USE_WMME -DWINVER=0x0502  -DUSEAPI_MMIO -DUSEAPI_PORTAUDIO
>>> -mms-bitfi
>>> elds -DWISHAPP='"wish85.exe"' -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-unused
>>>  -Wno-unu
>>> sed-parameter -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch  -O3 -funroll-loops
>>> -fomit-frame-poin
>>> ter  -M g_canvas.c g_graph.c g_text.c g_rtext.c g_array.c g_template.c
>>>  g_io.c g
>>> _scalar.c g_traversal.c g_guiconnect.c g_readwrite.c g_editor.c
>>>  g_all_guis.c  m
>>> _pd.c m_class.c m_obj.c m_atom.c m_memory.c m_binbuf.c
>>  m_conf_pdextended.c
>>> m_gl
>>> ob.c m_sched.c  s_main.c s_inter.c s_file.c s_print.c  s_loader.c
>> s_path.c
>>> s_ent
>>> ry.c s_audio.c s_midi.c  s_utf8.c  d_ugen.c d_ctl.c d_arithmetic.c
>> d_osc.c
>>> d_fil
>>> ter.c  d_math.c d_array.c d_global.c  d_delay.c d_resample.c
>>>  x_arithmetic.c x_c
>>> onnective.c  x_acoustics.c d_soundfile.c  e_fft.c e_gfxstub.c e_da

Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Esteban Viveros]

Well.. I have here only MinGW shell and Uninstall mingw-get on MinGW menu..



2013/1/20 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> Ok, that's much better! Try the attached makefile.mingw.  The problem is
> actually here:
>
> > /bin/sh: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `('
> > /bin/sh: -c: line 0: `gcc -I../../pd/src -IC:\Program Files
> > (x86)/Jack/includes
> > -I/c/Progra~1/jack/includes -I/c/Progra~2/jack/includes
> > -I/c/Progra~3/jack/includes
>
> Also, it looks like you're using cmd.exe, like I think patco said.  You
> should
> use the MinGW Shell, it is sometimes called MSYS.  You can find it in your
> Program Files menu under MinGW.  Building Pd-extended might work under
> cmd.exe, but I've never tried.  I always use the MinGW MSYS shell.
>
> .hc
>
> On 01/20/2013 07:56 AM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> > Finally! That's the result of my attempting compilation
> >
> > C:\MinGW\msys\1.0\home\Esteban\pure-data\pd\src>make -f makefile.mingw
> > makefile.mingw:300: makefile.dependencies: No such file or directory
> > gcc -I../../pd/src -IC:\Program Files (x86)/Jack/includes
> > -I/c/Progra~1/jack/inc
> > ludes -I/c/Progra~2/jack/includes -I/c/Progra~3/jack/includes
> > -I../../pd/portaud
> > io -I../../pd/portaudio/include -I../../pd/portaudio/src/common
> > -I../../pd/porta
> > udio/src/os/win -I../../pd/asio/ASIOSDK2/common
> > -I../../pd/asio/ASIOSDK2/host -I
> > ../../pd/asio/ASIOSDK2/host/pc -DPD -DPD_INTERNAL -DPA_USE_ASIO
> > -DPA_USE_WMME -D
> > WINVER=0x0502  -DUSEAPI_MMIO -DUSEAPI_PORTAUDIO -mms-bitfields
> > -DWISHAPP='"wish8
> > 5.exe"' -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-unused  -Wno-unused-parameter
> > -Wno-par
> > entheses -Wno-switch  -O3 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer  -M
> > g_canvas.c g_g
> > raph.c g_text.c g_rtext.c g_array.c g_template.c  g_io.c g_scalar.c
> > g_traversal.
> > c g_guiconnect.c g_readwrite.c g_editor.c  g_all_guis.c  m_pd.c m_class.c
> > m_obj.
> > c m_atom.c m_memory.c m_binbuf.c  m_conf_pdextended.c m_glob.c m_sched.c
> >  s_main
> > .c s_inter.c s_file.c s_print.c  s_loader.c s_path.c s_entry.c s_audio.c
> > s_midi.
> > c  s_utf8.c  d_ugen.c d_ctl.c d_arithmetic.c d_osc.c d_filter.c  d_math.c
> > d_arra
> > y.c d_global.c  d_delay.c d_resample.c  x_arithmetic.c x_connective.c
> >  x_acousti
> > cs.c d_soundfile.c  e_fft.c e_gfxstub.c e_dac.c e_midi.c  g_magicglass.c
> >  scandi
> > r.c  import.c path.c print.c closebang.c initbang.c loadbang.c
> > d_fft_mayer.c d_f
> > ftroutine.c s_audio_pa.c s_audio_paring.c s_audio_jack.c  s_audio_mmio.c
> > s_midi_
> > mmio.c  ../../pd/portaudio/src/common/pa_stream.c
> >  ../../pd/portaudio/src/common
> > /pa_trace.c  ../../pd/portaudio/src/common/pa_process.c
> >  ../../pd/portaudio/src/
> > common/pa_front.c  ../../pd/portaudio/src/common/pa_dither.c
> >  ../../pd/portaudio
> > /src/common/pa_cpuload.c  ../../pd/portaudio/src/common/pa_converters.c
> >  ../../p
> > d/portaudio/src/common/pa_allocation.c
> >  ../../pd/portaudio/src/common/pa_ringbuf
> > fer.c  ../../pd/portaudio/src/os/win/pa_win_hostapis.c
> >  ../../pd/portaudio/src/o
> > s/win/pa_win_util.c  ../../pd/portaudio/src/os/win/pa_win_waveformat.c
> >  ../../pd
> > /portaudio/src/os/win/pa_win_coinitialize.c
> >  ../../pd/portaudio/src/hostapi/wmme
> > /pa_win_wmme.c g_all_guis.h m_imp.h g_canvas.h m_pd.h s_stuff.h
> > g_magicglass.h
> >  s_audio_paring.h scandir.h
>  ../portaudio/src/os/win/pa_win_coinitialize.h \
> > > makefile.dependencies
> > /bin/sh: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `('
> > /bin/sh: -c: line 0: `gcc -I../../pd/src -IC:\Program Files
> > (x86)/Jack/includes
> > -I/c/Progra~1/jack/includes -I/c/Progra~2/jack/includes
> > -I/c/Progra~3/jack/inclu
> > des -I../../pd/portaudio -I../../pd/portaudio/include
> > -I../../pd/portaudio/src/c
> > ommon -I../../pd/portaudio/src/os/win -I../../pd/asio/ASIOSDK2/common
> > -I../../pd
> > /asio/ASIOSDK2/host -I../../pd/asio/ASIOSDK2/host/pc -DPD -DPD_INTERNAL
> > -DPA_USE
> > _ASIO -DPA_USE_WMME -DWINVER=0x0502  -DUSEAPI_MMIO -DUSEAPI_PORTAUDIO
> > -mms-bitfi
> > elds -DWISHAPP='"wish85.exe"' -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-unused
> >  -Wno-unu
> > sed-parameter -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch  -O3 -funroll-loops
> > -fomit-frame-poin
> > ter  -M g_canvas.c g_graph.c g_text.c g_rtext.c g_array.c g_template.c
> >  g_io.c g
> > _scalar.c g_traversal.c g_guiconnect.c g_readwrite.c g_editor.c
> >  g_all_guis.c  m
> > _pd.c m_class.c m_obj.c m_atom.c m_memory.c m_binbuf.c
>  m_conf_pdextended.c
> > m_gl
> > ob.c m_sched.c  s_main.c s_inter.c s_file.c s_print.c  s_loader.c
> s_path.c
> > s_ent
> > ry.c s_audio.c s_midi.c  s_utf8.c  d_ugen.c d_ctl.c d_arithmetic.c
> d_osc.c
> > d_fil
> > ter.c  d_math.c d_array.c d_global.c  d_delay.c d_resample.c
> >  x_arithmetic.c x_c
> > onnective.c  x_acoustics.c d_soundfile.c  e_fft.c e_gfxstub.c e_dac.c
> > e_midi.c
> > g_magicglass.c  scandir.c  import.c path.c print.c closebang.c initbang.c
> > loadba
> > ng.c d_fft_mayer.c d_fftroutine.c s_audio_pa

Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Ok, that's much better! Try the attached makefile.mingw.  The problem is
actually here:

> /bin/sh: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `('
> /bin/sh: -c: line 0: `gcc -I../../pd/src -IC:\Program Files
> (x86)/Jack/includes
> -I/c/Progra~1/jack/includes -I/c/Progra~2/jack/includes
> -I/c/Progra~3/jack/includes

Also, it looks like you're using cmd.exe, like I think patco said.  You should
use the MinGW Shell, it is sometimes called MSYS.  You can find it in your
Program Files menu under MinGW.  Building Pd-extended might work under
cmd.exe, but I've never tried.  I always use the MinGW MSYS shell.

.hc

On 01/20/2013 07:56 AM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> Finally! That's the result of my attempting compilation
> 
> C:\MinGW\msys\1.0\home\Esteban\pure-data\pd\src>make -f makefile.mingw
> makefile.mingw:300: makefile.dependencies: No such file or directory
> gcc -I../../pd/src -IC:\Program Files (x86)/Jack/includes
> -I/c/Progra~1/jack/inc
> ludes -I/c/Progra~2/jack/includes -I/c/Progra~3/jack/includes
> -I../../pd/portaud
> io -I../../pd/portaudio/include -I../../pd/portaudio/src/common
> -I../../pd/porta
> udio/src/os/win -I../../pd/asio/ASIOSDK2/common
> -I../../pd/asio/ASIOSDK2/host -I
> ../../pd/asio/ASIOSDK2/host/pc -DPD -DPD_INTERNAL -DPA_USE_ASIO
> -DPA_USE_WMME -D
> WINVER=0x0502  -DUSEAPI_MMIO -DUSEAPI_PORTAUDIO -mms-bitfields
> -DWISHAPP='"wish8
> 5.exe"' -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-unused  -Wno-unused-parameter
> -Wno-par
> entheses -Wno-switch  -O3 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer  -M
> g_canvas.c g_g
> raph.c g_text.c g_rtext.c g_array.c g_template.c  g_io.c g_scalar.c
> g_traversal.
> c g_guiconnect.c g_readwrite.c g_editor.c  g_all_guis.c  m_pd.c m_class.c
> m_obj.
> c m_atom.c m_memory.c m_binbuf.c  m_conf_pdextended.c m_glob.c m_sched.c
>  s_main
> .c s_inter.c s_file.c s_print.c  s_loader.c s_path.c s_entry.c s_audio.c
> s_midi.
> c  s_utf8.c  d_ugen.c d_ctl.c d_arithmetic.c d_osc.c d_filter.c  d_math.c
> d_arra
> y.c d_global.c  d_delay.c d_resample.c  x_arithmetic.c x_connective.c
>  x_acousti
> cs.c d_soundfile.c  e_fft.c e_gfxstub.c e_dac.c e_midi.c  g_magicglass.c
>  scandi
> r.c  import.c path.c print.c closebang.c initbang.c loadbang.c
> d_fft_mayer.c d_f
> ftroutine.c s_audio_pa.c s_audio_paring.c s_audio_jack.c  s_audio_mmio.c
> s_midi_
> mmio.c  ../../pd/portaudio/src/common/pa_stream.c
>  ../../pd/portaudio/src/common
> /pa_trace.c  ../../pd/portaudio/src/common/pa_process.c
>  ../../pd/portaudio/src/
> common/pa_front.c  ../../pd/portaudio/src/common/pa_dither.c
>  ../../pd/portaudio
> /src/common/pa_cpuload.c  ../../pd/portaudio/src/common/pa_converters.c
>  ../../p
> d/portaudio/src/common/pa_allocation.c
>  ../../pd/portaudio/src/common/pa_ringbuf
> fer.c  ../../pd/portaudio/src/os/win/pa_win_hostapis.c
>  ../../pd/portaudio/src/o
> s/win/pa_win_util.c  ../../pd/portaudio/src/os/win/pa_win_waveformat.c
>  ../../pd
> /portaudio/src/os/win/pa_win_coinitialize.c
>  ../../pd/portaudio/src/hostapi/wmme
> /pa_win_wmme.c g_all_guis.h m_imp.h g_canvas.h m_pd.h s_stuff.h
> g_magicglass.h
>  s_audio_paring.h scandir.h  ../portaudio/src/os/win/pa_win_coinitialize.h \
> > makefile.dependencies
> /bin/sh: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `('
> /bin/sh: -c: line 0: `gcc -I../../pd/src -IC:\Program Files
> (x86)/Jack/includes
> -I/c/Progra~1/jack/includes -I/c/Progra~2/jack/includes
> -I/c/Progra~3/jack/inclu
> des -I../../pd/portaudio -I../../pd/portaudio/include
> -I../../pd/portaudio/src/c
> ommon -I../../pd/portaudio/src/os/win -I../../pd/asio/ASIOSDK2/common
> -I../../pd
> /asio/ASIOSDK2/host -I../../pd/asio/ASIOSDK2/host/pc -DPD -DPD_INTERNAL
> -DPA_USE
> _ASIO -DPA_USE_WMME -DWINVER=0x0502  -DUSEAPI_MMIO -DUSEAPI_PORTAUDIO
> -mms-bitfi
> elds -DWISHAPP='"wish85.exe"' -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-unused
>  -Wno-unu
> sed-parameter -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch  -O3 -funroll-loops
> -fomit-frame-poin
> ter  -M g_canvas.c g_graph.c g_text.c g_rtext.c g_array.c g_template.c
>  g_io.c g
> _scalar.c g_traversal.c g_guiconnect.c g_readwrite.c g_editor.c
>  g_all_guis.c  m
> _pd.c m_class.c m_obj.c m_atom.c m_memory.c m_binbuf.c  m_conf_pdextended.c
> m_gl
> ob.c m_sched.c  s_main.c s_inter.c s_file.c s_print.c  s_loader.c s_path.c
> s_ent
> ry.c s_audio.c s_midi.c  s_utf8.c  d_ugen.c d_ctl.c d_arithmetic.c d_osc.c
> d_fil
> ter.c  d_math.c d_array.c d_global.c  d_delay.c d_resample.c
>  x_arithmetic.c x_c
> onnective.c  x_acoustics.c d_soundfile.c  e_fft.c e_gfxstub.c e_dac.c
> e_midi.c
> g_magicglass.c  scandir.c  import.c path.c print.c closebang.c initbang.c
> loadba
> ng.c d_fft_mayer.c d_fftroutine.c s_audio_pa.c s_audio_paring.c
> s_audio_jack.c
> s_audio_mmio.c s_midi_mmio.c  ../../pd/portaudio/src/common/pa_stream.c
>  ../../p
> d/portaudio/src/common/pa_trace.c
>  ../../pd/portaudio/src/common/pa_process.c  .
> ./../pd/portaudio/src/common/pa_front.c
>  ../../pd/portaudio/src/common/pa_dither
> .c  ../../pd/portaudio/src/common/pa_cpuload

Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[IOhannes zmölnig]

On 01/20/2013 01:50 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:

HC, can the compilation process gender a log file?




i'm not HC, but hopefully i can give some hints.

$ make > make.log

will redirect all stdout to make.log
since most errors got to stderr, you probably want to do:

$ make > make.log 2>&1

which will first redirect stderr to stdout, and then capture stdout to 
make.log.


gfamsdr
IOhannes

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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Esteban Viveros]

Ops...  I tryied the option select all and the select with mouse feature
are working now in cmd...


2013/1/20 Esteban Viveros 

> Really Patrice...  But How can I select the text?? I'm trying with the
> mouse but that's don't working here...
>
>
> 2013/1/19 Patrice Colet 
>
>>
>>
>> > > Excuse the "(... lot of letters..)" but my cmd don't have ctrl+c
>> > > option.. :/
>>
>>
>> hello,
>>
>> Are you really using cmd for compiling, or msys console?
>>
>> On cmd you can select and copy with menu actions, cygwin uses cmd...
>> In msys console it's truly like a unix terminal, Ctrl+Insert and
>> Shift+Insert for copying and pasting
>>
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Esteban Viveros]

HC, can the compilation process gender a log file?


2013/1/18 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> Please Reply All so that your emails go to the list also.
>
> Can you post the whole build log? those "lot of letters" hold the key to
> the
> problem :)
>
> .hc
>
> On 01/18/2013 11:54 AM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> > Now I can see some letters on cmd... hehehehe  But not yet..
> >
> > I have Error 1
> >
> > The compilation start with
> >
> > makefile.mingw:300: makefile.dependencies: No such file or directory
> > (... lot of letters ...)
> >
> > makefile.mingw:273: recipe for targets 'makefile.dependencies' failed
> > make: *** [makefile.dependencies] Error 1
> >
> > Excuse the "(... lot of letters..)" but my cmd don't have ctrl+c
> option.. :/
> >
> >
> > 2013/1/18 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >
> >>
> >> Oops sorry, it should be:
> >>
> >> cd ~/pure-data/pd/src
> >> make -f makefile.mingw
> >>
> >> Basically run the make command in the same folder as the file
> >> makefile.mingw.
> >>
> >> .hc
> >>
> >> On 01/18/2013 09:34 AM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> >>> :/   I have the same output..
> >>>
> >>> remembering in ~/pure-data I have now 3 folders:
> >>> Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117
> >>> pd
> >>> sources
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2013/1/18 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >>>
> 
>  Oops, yeah, I forgot there is one ugly little detail.  Run this in the
>  Terminal:
> 
>  cd ~/pure-data
>  mv pd-extended pd
>  cd pd
>  make -f makefile.mingw
> 
>  Now you can do the rest of the stuff from the previous email.
> 
>  .hc
> 
>  On 01/18/2013 08:10 AM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> > when I ran the command:
> > make -f makefile.mingw
> >
> > I have the response:
> >
> > (in ~/puredata)
> > make: makefile.mingw: No such file or directory
> > make: *** No rule to make target 'makefile.mingw'. Stop.
> >
> > (in ~/puredata/pd-extended)
> > make: makefile.mingw: No such file or directory
> > make: *** No rule to make target 'makefile.mingw'. Stop.
> >
> > (in ~/puredata/pd-extended/src)
> > makefile.mingw:300: makefile.dependencies: No such file or directory
> > make: *** No rule to make target
> > '../../pd/portaudio/src/common/pa_stream.c' , needed by
> > 'makefile.dependencies'. Stop.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2013/1/17 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >
> >>
> >> You don't want the auto-build script for this.  Its more trouble
> than
>  its
> >> worth. Do this instead:
> >>
> >> * download the zip version:
> >>
> >>
> 
> >>
> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2013-01-17/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117-windowsxp-i386.zip
> >>
> >> * unzip it into ~/pure-data
> >>
> >> * run these commands:
> >> cd ~/pure-data
> >> git clone git://
> >> pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pd-extended.git
> >> cd ~/pure-data/pd-extended
> >>
> >> * now copy attached file into ~/pure-data/pd-extended/src/
> >>
> >> * now run these commands:
> >> make -f makefile.mingw
> >> make -f makefile.mingw
> DESTDIR=~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117
> >> prefix=
> >> install
> >>
> >> (make sure the last line is all on one line)
> >>
> >> Now you should be able to go to
>  ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin
> >> and run pd.exe and have a working Pd with jack (fingers crossed)
> >>
> >> .hc
> >>
> >> On 01/17/2013 05:40 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> >>> I need to run git clone git://
> >>> pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pd-extended.git in
> >> the
> >> same
> >>> folder of the libraries built? (~/pure-data/sources)
> >>>
> >>> In my case I need to do this with your script: (?)
> >>>
> >>> mkdir ~/auto-build
> >>> cd ~/auto-buildhttps://
> >>
> 
> >>
> pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-extended/0.43
> >>> pd-extended
> >>>
> >> ~/auto-build/pd-extended/scripts/auto-build/pd-extended-auto-builder.sh
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2013/1/17 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >>>
> 
>  Yeah, it looks like the binary installer for jack is all you need.
> 
>  No problem if you just built all the libraries in Building Library
>  Dependencies For Windows From SVN '/Sources'.  I was just trying
> to
>  save
>  you
>  that effort, since its not needed for what you want to do.  But
> now
>  you
> >> are
>  setup to build all of Pd-extended and perhaps even readanysf~ too
> >> :-D
> 
>  You will definitely need to download the Pd-extended source.
> 
>  .hc
> 
>  On 01/17/2013 03:37 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> > I have one more question... When you say to install Jack, you say
> >> the
> > binary software or I need to find a source cod

Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Esteban Viveros]

Really Patrice...  But How can I select the text?? I'm trying with the
mouse but that's don't working here...


2013/1/19 Patrice Colet 

>
>
> > > Excuse the "(... lot of letters..)" but my cmd don't have ctrl+c
> > > option.. :/
>
>
> hello,
>
> Are you really using cmd for compiling, or msys console?
>
> On cmd you can select and copy with menu actions, cygwin uses cmd...
> In msys console it's truly like a unix terminal, Ctrl+Insert and
> Shift+Insert for copying and pasting
>
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Patrice Colet]

> > Excuse the "(... lot of letters..)" but my cmd don't have ctrl+c
> > option.. :/


hello,

Are you really using cmd for compiling, or msys console?

On cmd you can select and copy with menu actions, cygwin uses cmd... 
In msys console it's truly like a unix terminal, Ctrl+Insert and Shift+Insert 
for copying and pasting

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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Please Reply All so that your emails go to the list also.

Can you post the whole build log? those "lot of letters" hold the key to the
problem :)

.hc

On 01/18/2013 11:54 AM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> Now I can see some letters on cmd... hehehehe  But not yet..
> 
> I have Error 1
> 
> The compilation start with
> 
> makefile.mingw:300: makefile.dependencies: No such file or directory
> (... lot of letters ...)
> 
> makefile.mingw:273: recipe for targets 'makefile.dependencies' failed
> make: *** [makefile.dependencies] Error 1
> 
> Excuse the "(... lot of letters..)" but my cmd don't have ctrl+c option.. :/
> 
> 
> 2013/1/18 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> 
>>
>> Oops sorry, it should be:
>>
>> cd ~/pure-data/pd/src
>> make -f makefile.mingw
>>
>> Basically run the make command in the same folder as the file
>> makefile.mingw.
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On 01/18/2013 09:34 AM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>>> :/   I have the same output..
>>>
>>> remembering in ~/pure-data I have now 3 folders:
>>> Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117
>>> pd
>>> sources
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/1/18 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>>>

 Oops, yeah, I forgot there is one ugly little detail.  Run this in the
 Terminal:

 cd ~/pure-data
 mv pd-extended pd
 cd pd
 make -f makefile.mingw

 Now you can do the rest of the stuff from the previous email.

 .hc

 On 01/18/2013 08:10 AM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> when I ran the command:
> make -f makefile.mingw
>
> I have the response:
>
> (in ~/puredata)
> make: makefile.mingw: No such file or directory
> make: *** No rule to make target 'makefile.mingw'. Stop.
>
> (in ~/puredata/pd-extended)
> make: makefile.mingw: No such file or directory
> make: *** No rule to make target 'makefile.mingw'. Stop.
>
> (in ~/puredata/pd-extended/src)
> makefile.mingw:300: makefile.dependencies: No such file or directory
> make: *** No rule to make target
> '../../pd/portaudio/src/common/pa_stream.c' , needed by
> 'makefile.dependencies'. Stop.
>
>
>
>
>
> 2013/1/17 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>
>>
>> You don't want the auto-build script for this.  Its more trouble than
 its
>> worth. Do this instead:
>>
>> * download the zip version:
>>
>>

>> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2013-01-17/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117-windowsxp-i386.zip
>>
>> * unzip it into ~/pure-data
>>
>> * run these commands:
>> cd ~/pure-data
>> git clone git://
>> pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pd-extended.git
>> cd ~/pure-data/pd-extended
>>
>> * now copy attached file into ~/pure-data/pd-extended/src/
>>
>> * now run these commands:
>> make -f makefile.mingw
>> make -f makefile.mingw DESTDIR=~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117
>> prefix=
>> install
>>
>> (make sure the last line is all on one line)
>>
>> Now you should be able to go to
 ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin
>> and run pd.exe and have a working Pd with jack (fingers crossed)
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On 01/17/2013 05:40 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>>> I need to run git clone git://
>>> pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pd-extended.git in
>> the
>> same
>>> folder of the libraries built? (~/pure-data/sources)
>>>
>>> In my case I need to do this with your script: (?)
>>>
>>> mkdir ~/auto-build
>>> cd ~/auto-buildhttps://
>>

>> pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-extended/0.43
>>> pd-extended
>>>
>> ~/auto-build/pd-extended/scripts/auto-build/pd-extended-auto-builder.sh
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/1/17 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>>>

 Yeah, it looks like the binary installer for jack is all you need.

 No problem if you just built all the libraries in Building Library
 Dependencies For Windows From SVN '/Sources'.  I was just trying to
 save
 you
 that effort, since its not needed for what you want to do.  But now
 you
>> are
 setup to build all of Pd-extended and perhaps even readanysf~ too
>> :-D

 You will definitely need to download the Pd-extended source.

 .hc

 On 01/17/2013 03:37 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> I have one more question... When you say to install Jack, you say
>> the
> binary software or I need to find a source code of Jack audio?
>
>
> 2013/1/17 Esteban Viveros 
>
>> Ops... Already done... :/
>>
>> Now only remains download pd source.. Did I that too wrong?
>>
>> I'm thinking to download the pd source and then run your script...
>> Can I
>> continue?
>>
>>
>> 2013/1/17 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>>
>>>
>>

Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Oops sorry, it should be:

cd ~/pure-data/pd/src
make -f makefile.mingw

Basically run the make command in the same folder as the file makefile.mingw.

.hc

On 01/18/2013 09:34 AM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> :/   I have the same output..
> 
> remembering in ~/pure-data I have now 3 folders:
> Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117
> pd
> sources
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 2013/1/18 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> 
>>
>> Oops, yeah, I forgot there is one ugly little detail.  Run this in the
>> Terminal:
>>
>> cd ~/pure-data
>> mv pd-extended pd
>> cd pd
>> make -f makefile.mingw
>>
>> Now you can do the rest of the stuff from the previous email.
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On 01/18/2013 08:10 AM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>>> when I ran the command:
>>> make -f makefile.mingw
>>>
>>> I have the response:
>>>
>>> (in ~/puredata)
>>> make: makefile.mingw: No such file or directory
>>> make: *** No rule to make target 'makefile.mingw'. Stop.
>>>
>>> (in ~/puredata/pd-extended)
>>> make: makefile.mingw: No such file or directory
>>> make: *** No rule to make target 'makefile.mingw'. Stop.
>>>
>>> (in ~/puredata/pd-extended/src)
>>> makefile.mingw:300: makefile.dependencies: No such file or directory
>>> make: *** No rule to make target
>>> '../../pd/portaudio/src/common/pa_stream.c' , needed by
>>> 'makefile.dependencies'. Stop.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/1/17 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>>>

 You don't want the auto-build script for this.  Its more trouble than
>> its
 worth. Do this instead:

 * download the zip version:


>> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2013-01-17/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117-windowsxp-i386.zip

 * unzip it into ~/pure-data

 * run these commands:
 cd ~/pure-data
 git clone git://
 pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pd-extended.git
 cd ~/pure-data/pd-extended

 * now copy attached file into ~/pure-data/pd-extended/src/

 * now run these commands:
 make -f makefile.mingw
 make -f makefile.mingw DESTDIR=~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117
 prefix=
 install

 (make sure the last line is all on one line)

 Now you should be able to go to
>> ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin
 and run pd.exe and have a working Pd with jack (fingers crossed)

 .hc

 On 01/17/2013 05:40 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> I need to run git clone git://
> pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pd-extended.git in the
 same
> folder of the libraries built? (~/pure-data/sources)
>
> In my case I need to do this with your script: (?)
>
> mkdir ~/auto-build
> cd ~/auto-buildhttps://

>> pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-extended/0.43
> pd-extended
> ~/auto-build/pd-extended/scripts/auto-build/pd-extended-auto-builder.sh
>
>
>
> 2013/1/17 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>
>>
>> Yeah, it looks like the binary installer for jack is all you need.
>>
>> No problem if you just built all the libraries in Building Library
>> Dependencies For Windows From SVN '/Sources'.  I was just trying to
>> save
>> you
>> that effort, since its not needed for what you want to do.  But now
>> you
 are
>> setup to build all of Pd-extended and perhaps even readanysf~ too :-D
>>
>> You will definitely need to download the Pd-extended source.
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On 01/17/2013 03:37 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>>> I have one more question... When you say to install Jack, you say the
>>> binary software or I need to find a source code of Jack audio?
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/1/17 Esteban Viveros 
>>>
 Ops... Already done... :/

 Now only remains download pd source.. Did I that too wrong?

 I'm thinking to download the pd source and then run your script...
 Can I
 continue?


 2013/1/17 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> You don't need that stuff at all for what you are doing, skip that
>> step.
> That's only for building things like Gem.
>
> .hc
>
> On 01/16/2013 07:15 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>> Ok...
>>
>> Now I need to know where is pure-data directory..? It's needed to
> Building
>> Library Dependencies For Windows From SVN '/Sources'
>>
>>
>> 2013/1/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>>
>>>
>>> I updated the makefile.mingw a bit, I forgot to add something
 before.
>  Its
>>> attached.
>>>
>>> .hc
>>>
>>> On 01/16/2013 06:44 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
 gcc.exe ,GCC. 4.6.2


 2013/1/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

> On 01/16/2013 06:28 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>> HC,
>>
>> I have two question at time..
>

Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Esteban Viveros]

:/   I have the same output..

remembering in ~/pure-data I have now 3 folders:
Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117
pd
sources




2013/1/18 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> Oops, yeah, I forgot there is one ugly little detail.  Run this in the
> Terminal:
>
> cd ~/pure-data
> mv pd-extended pd
> cd pd
> make -f makefile.mingw
>
> Now you can do the rest of the stuff from the previous email.
>
> .hc
>
> On 01/18/2013 08:10 AM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> > when I ran the command:
> > make -f makefile.mingw
> >
> > I have the response:
> >
> > (in ~/puredata)
> > make: makefile.mingw: No such file or directory
> > make: *** No rule to make target 'makefile.mingw'. Stop.
> >
> > (in ~/puredata/pd-extended)
> > make: makefile.mingw: No such file or directory
> > make: *** No rule to make target 'makefile.mingw'. Stop.
> >
> > (in ~/puredata/pd-extended/src)
> > makefile.mingw:300: makefile.dependencies: No such file or directory
> > make: *** No rule to make target
> > '../../pd/portaudio/src/common/pa_stream.c' , needed by
> > 'makefile.dependencies'. Stop.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2013/1/17 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >
> >>
> >> You don't want the auto-build script for this.  Its more trouble than
> its
> >> worth. Do this instead:
> >>
> >> * download the zip version:
> >>
> >>
> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2013-01-17/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117-windowsxp-i386.zip
> >>
> >> * unzip it into ~/pure-data
> >>
> >> * run these commands:
> >> cd ~/pure-data
> >> git clone git://
> >> pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pd-extended.git
> >> cd ~/pure-data/pd-extended
> >>
> >> * now copy attached file into ~/pure-data/pd-extended/src/
> >>
> >> * now run these commands:
> >> make -f makefile.mingw
> >> make -f makefile.mingw DESTDIR=~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117
> >> prefix=
> >> install
> >>
> >> (make sure the last line is all on one line)
> >>
> >> Now you should be able to go to
> ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin
> >> and run pd.exe and have a working Pd with jack (fingers crossed)
> >>
> >> .hc
> >>
> >> On 01/17/2013 05:40 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> >>> I need to run git clone git://
> >>> pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pd-extended.git in the
> >> same
> >>> folder of the libraries built? (~/pure-data/sources)
> >>>
> >>> In my case I need to do this with your script: (?)
> >>>
> >>> mkdir ~/auto-build
> >>> cd ~/auto-buildhttps://
> >>
> pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-extended/0.43
> >>> pd-extended
> >>> ~/auto-build/pd-extended/scripts/auto-build/pd-extended-auto-builder.sh
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2013/1/17 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >>>
> 
>  Yeah, it looks like the binary installer for jack is all you need.
> 
>  No problem if you just built all the libraries in Building Library
>  Dependencies For Windows From SVN '/Sources'.  I was just trying to
> save
>  you
>  that effort, since its not needed for what you want to do.  But now
> you
> >> are
>  setup to build all of Pd-extended and perhaps even readanysf~ too :-D
> 
>  You will definitely need to download the Pd-extended source.
> 
>  .hc
> 
>  On 01/17/2013 03:37 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> > I have one more question... When you say to install Jack, you say the
> > binary software or I need to find a source code of Jack audio?
> >
> >
> > 2013/1/17 Esteban Viveros 
> >
> >> Ops... Already done... :/
> >>
> >> Now only remains download pd source.. Did I that too wrong?
> >>
> >> I'm thinking to download the pd source and then run your script...
> >> Can I
> >> continue?
> >>
> >>
> >> 2013/1/17 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >>
> >>>
> >>> You don't need that stuff at all for what you are doing, skip that
>  step.
> >>> That's only for building things like Gem.
> >>>
> >>> .hc
> >>>
> >>> On 01/16/2013 07:15 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>  Ok...
> 
>  Now I need to know where is pure-data directory..? It's needed to
> >>> Building
>  Library Dependencies For Windows From SVN '/Sources'
> 
> 
>  2013/1/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> 
> >
> > I updated the makefile.mingw a bit, I forgot to add something
> >> before.
> >>>  Its
> > attached.
> >
> > .hc
> >
> > On 01/16/2013 06:44 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> >> gcc.exe ,GCC. 4.6.2
> >>
> >>
> >> 2013/1/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >>
> >>> On 01/16/2013 06:28 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>  HC,
> 
>  I have two question at time..
> 
>  First, I need to add Cygwin to system path? If yes, I run SETX
>  path
>  c:\cygwin;c:\cygwin\bin;%path%  in Cygwin Terminal?
> >>>
> >>> This is probably optional but cygwin is useful.  Y

Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Oops, yeah, I forgot there is one ugly little detail.  Run this in the Terminal:

cd ~/pure-data
mv pd-extended pd
cd pd
make -f makefile.mingw

Now you can do the rest of the stuff from the previous email.

.hc

On 01/18/2013 08:10 AM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> when I ran the command:
> make -f makefile.mingw
> 
> I have the response:
> 
> (in ~/puredata)
> make: makefile.mingw: No such file or directory
> make: *** No rule to make target 'makefile.mingw'. Stop.
> 
> (in ~/puredata/pd-extended)
> make: makefile.mingw: No such file or directory
> make: *** No rule to make target 'makefile.mingw'. Stop.
> 
> (in ~/puredata/pd-extended/src)
> makefile.mingw:300: makefile.dependencies: No such file or directory
> make: *** No rule to make target
> '../../pd/portaudio/src/common/pa_stream.c' , needed by
> 'makefile.dependencies'. Stop.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 2013/1/17 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> 
>>
>> You don't want the auto-build script for this.  Its more trouble than its
>> worth. Do this instead:
>>
>> * download the zip version:
>>
>> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2013-01-17/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117-windowsxp-i386.zip
>>
>> * unzip it into ~/pure-data
>>
>> * run these commands:
>> cd ~/pure-data
>> git clone git://
>> pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pd-extended.git
>> cd ~/pure-data/pd-extended
>>
>> * now copy attached file into ~/pure-data/pd-extended/src/
>>
>> * now run these commands:
>> make -f makefile.mingw
>> make -f makefile.mingw DESTDIR=~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117
>> prefix=
>> install
>>
>> (make sure the last line is all on one line)
>>
>> Now you should be able to go to ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin
>> and run pd.exe and have a working Pd with jack (fingers crossed)
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On 01/17/2013 05:40 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>>> I need to run git clone git://
>>> pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pd-extended.git in the
>> same
>>> folder of the libraries built? (~/pure-data/sources)
>>>
>>> In my case I need to do this with your script: (?)
>>>
>>> mkdir ~/auto-build
>>> cd ~/auto-buildhttps://
>> pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-extended/0.43
>>> pd-extended
>>> ~/auto-build/pd-extended/scripts/auto-build/pd-extended-auto-builder.sh
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/1/17 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>>>

 Yeah, it looks like the binary installer for jack is all you need.

 No problem if you just built all the libraries in Building Library
 Dependencies For Windows From SVN '/Sources'.  I was just trying to save
 you
 that effort, since its not needed for what you want to do.  But now you
>> are
 setup to build all of Pd-extended and perhaps even readanysf~ too :-D

 You will definitely need to download the Pd-extended source.

 .hc

 On 01/17/2013 03:37 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> I have one more question... When you say to install Jack, you say the
> binary software or I need to find a source code of Jack audio?
>
>
> 2013/1/17 Esteban Viveros 
>
>> Ops... Already done... :/
>>
>> Now only remains download pd source.. Did I that too wrong?
>>
>> I'm thinking to download the pd source and then run your script...
>> Can I
>> continue?
>>
>>
>> 2013/1/17 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>>
>>>
>>> You don't need that stuff at all for what you are doing, skip that
 step.
>>> That's only for building things like Gem.
>>>
>>> .hc
>>>
>>> On 01/16/2013 07:15 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
 Ok...

 Now I need to know where is pure-data directory..? It's needed to
>>> Building
 Library Dependencies For Windows From SVN '/Sources'


 2013/1/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> I updated the makefile.mingw a bit, I forgot to add something
>> before.
>>>  Its
> attached.
>
> .hc
>
> On 01/16/2013 06:44 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>> gcc.exe ,GCC. 4.6.2
>>
>>
>> 2013/1/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>>
>>> On 01/16/2013 06:28 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
 HC,

 I have two question at time..

 First, I need to add Cygwin to system path? If yes, I run SETX
 path
 c:\cygwin;c:\cygwin\bin;%path%  in Cygwin Terminal?
>>>
>>> This is probably optional but cygwin is useful.  You do it from
>> the
> System
>>> control panel:
>>> http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000549.htm
>>>
>>> If you install TortoiseSVN, I don't think you need cygwin at all
>>> (watch
> out
>>> for download links in the big add in that page):
>>> http://tortoisesvn.net/downloads.html
>>>
 Two, In session: "Copying Libgmp-10Dll for Cc1.Exe" I don't have
 /mingw/libexec/gcc/m

Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

You don't want the auto-build script for this.  Its more trouble than its
worth. Do this instead:

* download the zip version:
http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2013-01-17/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117-windowsxp-i386.zip

* unzip it into ~/pure-data

* run these commands:
cd ~/pure-data
git clone git://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pd-extended.git
cd ~/pure-data/pd-extended

* now copy attached file into ~/pure-data/pd-extended/src/

* now run these commands:
make -f makefile.mingw
make -f makefile.mingw DESTDIR=~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117 prefix=
install

(make sure the last line is all on one line)

Now you should be able to go to ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin
and run pd.exe and have a working Pd with jack (fingers crossed)

.hc

On 01/17/2013 05:40 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> I need to run git clone git://
> pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pd-extended.git in the same
> folder of the libraries built? (~/pure-data/sources)
> 
> In my case I need to do this with your script: (?)
> 
> mkdir ~/auto-build
> cd 
> ~/auto-buildhttps://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-extended/0.43
> pd-extended
> ~/auto-build/pd-extended/scripts/auto-build/pd-extended-auto-builder.sh
> 
> 
> 
> 2013/1/17 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> 
>>
>> Yeah, it looks like the binary installer for jack is all you need.
>>
>> No problem if you just built all the libraries in Building Library
>> Dependencies For Windows From SVN '/Sources'.  I was just trying to save
>> you
>> that effort, since its not needed for what you want to do.  But now you are
>> setup to build all of Pd-extended and perhaps even readanysf~ too :-D
>>
>> You will definitely need to download the Pd-extended source.
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On 01/17/2013 03:37 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>>> I have one more question... When you say to install Jack, you say the
>>> binary software or I need to find a source code of Jack audio?
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/1/17 Esteban Viveros 
>>>
 Ops... Already done... :/

 Now only remains download pd source.. Did I that too wrong?

 I'm thinking to download the pd source and then run your script... Can I
 continue?


 2013/1/17 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> You don't need that stuff at all for what you are doing, skip that
>> step.
> That's only for building things like Gem.
>
> .hc
>
> On 01/16/2013 07:15 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>> Ok...
>>
>> Now I need to know where is pure-data directory..? It's needed to
> Building
>> Library Dependencies For Windows From SVN '/Sources'
>>
>>
>> 2013/1/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>>
>>>
>>> I updated the makefile.mingw a bit, I forgot to add something before.
>  Its
>>> attached.
>>>
>>> .hc
>>>
>>> On 01/16/2013 06:44 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
 gcc.exe ,GCC. 4.6.2


 2013/1/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

> On 01/16/2013 06:28 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>> HC,
>>
>> I have two question at time..
>>
>> First, I need to add Cygwin to system path? If yes, I run SETX
>> path
>> c:\cygwin;c:\cygwin\bin;%path%  in Cygwin Terminal?
>
> This is probably optional but cygwin is useful.  You do it from the
>>> System
> control panel:
> http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000549.htm
>
> If you install TortoiseSVN, I don't think you need cygwin at all
> (watch
>>> out
> for download links in the big add in that page):
> http://tortoisesvn.net/downloads.html
>
>> Two, In session: "Copying Libgmp-10Dll for Cc1.Exe" I don't have
>> /mingw/libexec/gcc/mingw32/4.7.2/ but I have
>> /mingw/libexec/gcc/mingw32/4.6.2  I need to create the 4.7.2
> directory
>>> or
>> copy the dll's to 4.6.2?
>
> Copy the dlls to the existing folder, don't create a new one.  You
> can
>>> tell
> which version of gcc you have by doing:
>
> gcc --version
>
> My guess is that you have 4.6.2, which should work fine.
>
> .hc
>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2013/1/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>>
>>>
>>> Start by installing Jack on your windows machine and setting up a
> Pd
> build
>>> environment:
>>> http://puredata.info/docs/developer/WindowsMinGW
>>>
>>> You can skip the "Building library dependencies for Windows from
> SVN
>>> '/sources'" section for now.
>>>
>>> Then in the MSYS MinGW shell, do this:
>>>
>>> git clone git://
>>> pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pd-extended.git
>>> cd pd-extended/src
>>> make -f makefile.mingw
>>>
>>> That should give you a r

Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

(let's keep the list CC'ed so that others can follow this)

You can run 'git clone ...' wherever you want to keep the pd-extended source,
it doesn't really matter where.  ~/pure-data is probably a good place.

.hc

On 01/17/2013 05:35 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> I need to run git clone git://
> pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pd-extended.git in the same
> folder of the libraries built? (~/pure-data/sources)
> 
> 
> 2013/1/17 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> 
>>
>> Yeah, it looks like the binary installer for jack is all you need.
>>
>> No problem if you just built all the libraries in Building Library
>> Dependencies For Windows From SVN '/Sources'.  I was just trying to save
>> you
>> that effort, since its not needed for what you want to do.  But now you are
>> setup to build all of Pd-extended and perhaps even readanysf~ too :-D
>>
>> You will definitely need to download the Pd-extended source.
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On 01/17/2013 03:37 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>>> I have one more question... When you say to install Jack, you say the
>>> binary software or I need to find a source code of Jack audio?
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/1/17 Esteban Viveros 
>>>
 Ops... Already done... :/

 Now only remains download pd source.. Did I that too wrong?

 I'm thinking to download the pd source and then run your script... Can I
 continue?


 2013/1/17 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> You don't need that stuff at all for what you are doing, skip that
>> step.
> That's only for building things like Gem.
>
> .hc
>
> On 01/16/2013 07:15 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>> Ok...
>>
>> Now I need to know where is pure-data directory..? It's needed to
> Building
>> Library Dependencies For Windows From SVN '/Sources'
>>
>>
>> 2013/1/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>>
>>>
>>> I updated the makefile.mingw a bit, I forgot to add something before.
>  Its
>>> attached.
>>>
>>> .hc
>>>
>>> On 01/16/2013 06:44 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
 gcc.exe ,GCC. 4.6.2


 2013/1/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

> On 01/16/2013 06:28 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>> HC,
>>
>> I have two question at time..
>>
>> First, I need to add Cygwin to system path? If yes, I run SETX
>> path
>> c:\cygwin;c:\cygwin\bin;%path%  in Cygwin Terminal?
>
> This is probably optional but cygwin is useful.  You do it from the
>>> System
> control panel:
> http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000549.htm
>
> If you install TortoiseSVN, I don't think you need cygwin at all
> (watch
>>> out
> for download links in the big add in that page):
> http://tortoisesvn.net/downloads.html
>
>> Two, In session: "Copying Libgmp-10Dll for Cc1.Exe" I don't have
>> /mingw/libexec/gcc/mingw32/4.7.2/ but I have
>> /mingw/libexec/gcc/mingw32/4.6.2  I need to create the 4.7.2
> directory
>>> or
>> copy the dll's to 4.6.2?
>
> Copy the dlls to the existing folder, don't create a new one.  You
> can
>>> tell
> which version of gcc you have by doing:
>
> gcc --version
>
> My guess is that you have 4.6.2, which should work fine.
>
> .hc
>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2013/1/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>>
>>>
>>> Start by installing Jack on your windows machine and setting up a
> Pd
> build
>>> environment:
>>> http://puredata.info/docs/developer/WindowsMinGW
>>>
>>> You can skip the "Building library dependencies for Windows from
> SVN
>>> '/sources'" section for now.
>>>
>>> Then in the MSYS MinGW shell, do this:
>>>
>>> git clone git://
>>> pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pd-extended.git
>>> cd pd-extended/src
>>> make -f makefile.mingw
>>>
>>> That should give you a regular Pd build.  Then download a
> Pd-extended
>>> 0.43.4
>>> zip version and unzip it.  I usually put it on my desktop.  Then
> you
>>> can
>>> install your new build into it:
>>>
>>> make -f makefile.mingw
>>> DESTDIR="$USERPROFILE/Desktop/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130115 prefix=
> install
>>>
>>> If that works, then you're ready to try to build against Jack.
>>>  Replace
>>> pd-extended/src/makefile.mingw with makefile.mingw that is
> attached to
> this
>>> email, and try this:
>>>
>>> cd pd-extended/src
>>> make -f makefile.mingw clean
>>> make -f makefile.mingw
>>> DESTDIR="$USERPROFILE/Desktop/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130115 prefix=
> install
>>>
>>> .hc
>>

Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Esteban Viveros]

I need to run git clone git://
pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pd-extended.git in the same
folder of the libraries built? (~/pure-data/sources)

In my case I need to do this with your script: (?)

mkdir ~/auto-build
cd 
~/auto-buildhttps://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-extended/0.43
pd-extended
~/auto-build/pd-extended/scripts/auto-build/pd-extended-auto-builder.sh



2013/1/17 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> Yeah, it looks like the binary installer for jack is all you need.
>
> No problem if you just built all the libraries in Building Library
> Dependencies For Windows From SVN '/Sources'.  I was just trying to save
> you
> that effort, since its not needed for what you want to do.  But now you are
> setup to build all of Pd-extended and perhaps even readanysf~ too :-D
>
> You will definitely need to download the Pd-extended source.
>
> .hc
>
> On 01/17/2013 03:37 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> > I have one more question... When you say to install Jack, you say the
> > binary software or I need to find a source code of Jack audio?
> >
> >
> > 2013/1/17 Esteban Viveros 
> >
> >> Ops... Already done... :/
> >>
> >> Now only remains download pd source.. Did I that too wrong?
> >>
> >> I'm thinking to download the pd source and then run your script... Can I
> >> continue?
> >>
> >>
> >> 2013/1/17 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >>
> >>>
> >>> You don't need that stuff at all for what you are doing, skip that
> step.
> >>> That's only for building things like Gem.
> >>>
> >>> .hc
> >>>
> >>> On 01/16/2013 07:15 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>  Ok...
> 
>  Now I need to know where is pure-data directory..? It's needed to
> >>> Building
>  Library Dependencies For Windows From SVN '/Sources'
> 
> 
>  2013/1/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> 
> >
> > I updated the makefile.mingw a bit, I forgot to add something before.
> >>>  Its
> > attached.
> >
> > .hc
> >
> > On 01/16/2013 06:44 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> >> gcc.exe ,GCC. 4.6.2
> >>
> >>
> >> 2013/1/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >>
> >>> On 01/16/2013 06:28 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>  HC,
> 
>  I have two question at time..
> 
>  First, I need to add Cygwin to system path? If yes, I run SETX
> path
>  c:\cygwin;c:\cygwin\bin;%path%  in Cygwin Terminal?
> >>>
> >>> This is probably optional but cygwin is useful.  You do it from the
> > System
> >>> control panel:
> >>> http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000549.htm
> >>>
> >>> If you install TortoiseSVN, I don't think you need cygwin at all
> >>> (watch
> > out
> >>> for download links in the big add in that page):
> >>> http://tortoisesvn.net/downloads.html
> >>>
>  Two, In session: "Copying Libgmp-10Dll for Cc1.Exe" I don't have
>  /mingw/libexec/gcc/mingw32/4.7.2/ but I have
>  /mingw/libexec/gcc/mingw32/4.6.2  I need to create the 4.7.2
> >>> directory
> > or
>  copy the dll's to 4.6.2?
> >>>
> >>> Copy the dlls to the existing folder, don't create a new one.  You
> >>> can
> > tell
> >>> which version of gcc you have by doing:
> >>>
> >>> gcc --version
> >>>
> >>> My guess is that you have 4.6.2, which should work fine.
> >>>
> >>> .hc
> >>>
> 
> 
> 
>  2013/1/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> 
> >
> > Start by installing Jack on your windows machine and setting up a
> >>> Pd
> >>> build
> > environment:
> > http://puredata.info/docs/developer/WindowsMinGW
> >
> > You can skip the "Building library dependencies for Windows from
> >>> SVN
> > '/sources'" section for now.
> >
> > Then in the MSYS MinGW shell, do this:
> >
> > git clone git://
> > pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pd-extended.git
> > cd pd-extended/src
> > make -f makefile.mingw
> >
> > That should give you a regular Pd build.  Then download a
> >>> Pd-extended
> > 0.43.4
> > zip version and unzip it.  I usually put it on my desktop.  Then
> >>> you
> > can
> > install your new build into it:
> >
> > make -f makefile.mingw
> > DESTDIR="$USERPROFILE/Desktop/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130115 prefix=
> >>> install
> >
> > If that works, then you're ready to try to build against Jack.
> >  Replace
> > pd-extended/src/makefile.mingw with makefile.mingw that is
> >>> attached to
> >>> this
> > email, and try this:
> >
> > cd pd-extended/src
> > make -f makefile.mingw clean
> > make -f makefile.mingw
> > DESTDIR="$USERPROFILE/Desktop/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130115 prefix=
> >>> install
> >
> > .hc
> >
> > On 01/16/2013 02:07 PM,

Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Yeah, it looks like the binary installer for jack is all you need.

No problem if you just built all the libraries in Building Library
Dependencies For Windows From SVN '/Sources'.  I was just trying to save you
that effort, since its not needed for what you want to do.  But now you are
setup to build all of Pd-extended and perhaps even readanysf~ too :-D

You will definitely need to download the Pd-extended source.

.hc

On 01/17/2013 03:37 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> I have one more question... When you say to install Jack, you say the
> binary software or I need to find a source code of Jack audio?
> 
> 
> 2013/1/17 Esteban Viveros 
> 
>> Ops... Already done... :/
>>
>> Now only remains download pd source.. Did I that too wrong?
>>
>> I'm thinking to download the pd source and then run your script... Can I
>> continue?
>>
>>
>> 2013/1/17 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>>
>>>
>>> You don't need that stuff at all for what you are doing, skip that step.
>>> That's only for building things like Gem.
>>>
>>> .hc
>>>
>>> On 01/16/2013 07:15 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
 Ok...

 Now I need to know where is pure-data directory..? It's needed to
>>> Building
 Library Dependencies For Windows From SVN '/Sources'


 2013/1/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> I updated the makefile.mingw a bit, I forgot to add something before.
>>>  Its
> attached.
>
> .hc
>
> On 01/16/2013 06:44 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>> gcc.exe ,GCC. 4.6.2
>>
>>
>> 2013/1/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>>
>>> On 01/16/2013 06:28 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
 HC,

 I have two question at time..

 First, I need to add Cygwin to system path? If yes, I run SETX path
 c:\cygwin;c:\cygwin\bin;%path%  in Cygwin Terminal?
>>>
>>> This is probably optional but cygwin is useful.  You do it from the
> System
>>> control panel:
>>> http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000549.htm
>>>
>>> If you install TortoiseSVN, I don't think you need cygwin at all
>>> (watch
> out
>>> for download links in the big add in that page):
>>> http://tortoisesvn.net/downloads.html
>>>
 Two, In session: "Copying Libgmp-10Dll for Cc1.Exe" I don't have
 /mingw/libexec/gcc/mingw32/4.7.2/ but I have
 /mingw/libexec/gcc/mingw32/4.6.2  I need to create the 4.7.2
>>> directory
> or
 copy the dll's to 4.6.2?
>>>
>>> Copy the dlls to the existing folder, don't create a new one.  You
>>> can
> tell
>>> which version of gcc you have by doing:
>>>
>>> gcc --version
>>>
>>> My guess is that you have 4.6.2, which should work fine.
>>>
>>> .hc
>>>



 2013/1/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> Start by installing Jack on your windows machine and setting up a
>>> Pd
>>> build
> environment:
> http://puredata.info/docs/developer/WindowsMinGW
>
> You can skip the "Building library dependencies for Windows from
>>> SVN
> '/sources'" section for now.
>
> Then in the MSYS MinGW shell, do this:
>
> git clone git://
> pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pd-extended.git
> cd pd-extended/src
> make -f makefile.mingw
>
> That should give you a regular Pd build.  Then download a
>>> Pd-extended
> 0.43.4
> zip version and unzip it.  I usually put it on my desktop.  Then
>>> you
> can
> install your new build into it:
>
> make -f makefile.mingw
> DESTDIR="$USERPROFILE/Desktop/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130115 prefix=
>>> install
>
> If that works, then you're ready to try to build against Jack.
>  Replace
> pd-extended/src/makefile.mingw with makefile.mingw that is
>>> attached to
>>> this
> email, and try this:
>
> cd pd-extended/src
> make -f makefile.mingw clean
> make -f makefile.mingw
> DESTDIR="$USERPROFILE/Desktop/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130115 prefix=
>>> install
>
> .hc
>
> On 01/16/2013 02:07 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>> Wow If I had the knowledge to do.. (!) *.*
>>
>> But I can try... I need documentation to learn.. Where can I
>>> begin?
>>
>>
>> 2013/1/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>>
>>>
>>> I agree, it should be included.  Why don't you try to build it?
>>>  Or
> maybe
>>> if
>>> patco has some time, he could take a look.
>>>
>>> Its much too late to include it in 0.43.4, but once its working,
>>> its
> easy
>>> to
>>> include in nightly builds of 0.44.
>>>
>>> .hc
>>>
>>> On 01/16/2013 12:58 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
 Hello list,

Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

You don't need that stuff at all for what you are doing, skip that step.
That's only for building things like Gem.

.hc

On 01/16/2013 07:15 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> Ok...
> 
> Now I need to know where is pure-data directory..? It's needed to Building
> Library Dependencies For Windows From SVN '/Sources'
> 
> 
> 2013/1/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> 
>>
>> I updated the makefile.mingw a bit, I forgot to add something before.  Its
>> attached.
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On 01/16/2013 06:44 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>>> gcc.exe ,GCC. 4.6.2
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/1/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>>>
 On 01/16/2013 06:28 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> HC,
>
> I have two question at time..
>
> First, I need to add Cygwin to system path? If yes, I run SETX path
> c:\cygwin;c:\cygwin\bin;%path%  in Cygwin Terminal?

 This is probably optional but cygwin is useful.  You do it from the
>> System
 control panel:
 http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000549.htm

 If you install TortoiseSVN, I don't think you need cygwin at all (watch
>> out
 for download links in the big add in that page):
 http://tortoisesvn.net/downloads.html

> Two, In session: "Copying Libgmp-10Dll for Cc1.Exe" I don't have
> /mingw/libexec/gcc/mingw32/4.7.2/ but I have
> /mingw/libexec/gcc/mingw32/4.6.2  I need to create the 4.7.2 directory
>> or
> copy the dll's to 4.6.2?

 Copy the dlls to the existing folder, don't create a new one.  You can
>> tell
 which version of gcc you have by doing:

 gcc --version

 My guess is that you have 4.6.2, which should work fine.

 .hc

>
>
>
> 2013/1/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>
>>
>> Start by installing Jack on your windows machine and setting up a Pd
 build
>> environment:
>> http://puredata.info/docs/developer/WindowsMinGW
>>
>> You can skip the "Building library dependencies for Windows from SVN
>> '/sources'" section for now.
>>
>> Then in the MSYS MinGW shell, do this:
>>
>> git clone git://
>> pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pd-extended.git
>> cd pd-extended/src
>> make -f makefile.mingw
>>
>> That should give you a regular Pd build.  Then download a Pd-extended
>> 0.43.4
>> zip version and unzip it.  I usually put it on my desktop.  Then you
>> can
>> install your new build into it:
>>
>> make -f makefile.mingw
>> DESTDIR="$USERPROFILE/Desktop/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130115 prefix=
 install
>>
>> If that works, then you're ready to try to build against Jack.
>>  Replace
>> pd-extended/src/makefile.mingw with makefile.mingw that is attached to
 this
>> email, and try this:
>>
>> cd pd-extended/src
>> make -f makefile.mingw clean
>> make -f makefile.mingw
>> DESTDIR="$USERPROFILE/Desktop/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130115 prefix=
 install
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On 01/16/2013 02:07 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>>> Wow If I had the knowledge to do.. (!) *.*
>>>
>>> But I can try... I need documentation to learn.. Where can I begin?
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/1/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>>>

 I agree, it should be included.  Why don't you try to build it?  Or
>> maybe
 if
 patco has some time, he could take a look.

 Its much too late to include it in 0.43.4, but once its working, its
>> easy
 to
 include in nightly builds of 0.44.

 .hc

 On 01/16/2013 12:58 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> Excuse the hassle... But I think this very important ..
>
> The windows version of pd-extended 0.43 don't have support to
>> Jack..
>
> It would be great can connect my new pd extended release to ableton
>> live
 to
> play a little..
>
>
>
>
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

I updated the makefile.mingw a bit, I forgot to add something before.  Its
attached.

.hc

On 01/16/2013 06:44 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> gcc.exe ,GCC. 4.6.2
> 
> 
> 2013/1/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> 
>> On 01/16/2013 06:28 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>>> HC,
>>>
>>> I have two question at time..
>>>
>>> First, I need to add Cygwin to system path? If yes, I run SETX path
>>> c:\cygwin;c:\cygwin\bin;%path%  in Cygwin Terminal?
>>
>> This is probably optional but cygwin is useful.  You do it from the System
>> control panel:
>> http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000549.htm
>>
>> If you install TortoiseSVN, I don't think you need cygwin at all (watch out
>> for download links in the big add in that page):
>> http://tortoisesvn.net/downloads.html
>>
>>> Two, In session: "Copying Libgmp-10Dll for Cc1.Exe" I don't have
>>> /mingw/libexec/gcc/mingw32/4.7.2/ but I have
>>> /mingw/libexec/gcc/mingw32/4.6.2  I need to create the 4.7.2 directory or
>>> copy the dll's to 4.6.2?
>>
>> Copy the dlls to the existing folder, don't create a new one.  You can tell
>> which version of gcc you have by doing:
>>
>> gcc --version
>>
>> My guess is that you have 4.6.2, which should work fine.
>>
>> .hc
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/1/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>>>

 Start by installing Jack on your windows machine and setting up a Pd
>> build
 environment:
 http://puredata.info/docs/developer/WindowsMinGW

 You can skip the "Building library dependencies for Windows from SVN
 '/sources'" section for now.

 Then in the MSYS MinGW shell, do this:

 git clone git://
 pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pd-extended.git
 cd pd-extended/src
 make -f makefile.mingw

 That should give you a regular Pd build.  Then download a Pd-extended
 0.43.4
 zip version and unzip it.  I usually put it on my desktop.  Then you can
 install your new build into it:

 make -f makefile.mingw
 DESTDIR="$USERPROFILE/Desktop/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130115 prefix=
>> install

 If that works, then you're ready to try to build against Jack.  Replace
 pd-extended/src/makefile.mingw with makefile.mingw that is attached to
>> this
 email, and try this:

 cd pd-extended/src
 make -f makefile.mingw clean
 make -f makefile.mingw
 DESTDIR="$USERPROFILE/Desktop/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130115 prefix=
>> install

 .hc

 On 01/16/2013 02:07 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> Wow If I had the knowledge to do.. (!) *.*
>
> But I can try... I need documentation to learn.. Where can I begin?
>
>
> 2013/1/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>
>>
>> I agree, it should be included.  Why don't you try to build it?  Or
 maybe
>> if
>> patco has some time, he could take a look.
>>
>> Its much too late to include it in 0.43.4, but once its working, its
 easy
>> to
>> include in nightly builds of 0.44.
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On 01/16/2013 12:58 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>>> Hello list,
>>>
>>> Excuse the hassle... But I think this very important ..
>>>
>>> The windows version of pd-extended 0.43 don't have support to Jack..
>>>
>>> It would be great can connect my new pd extended release to ableton
 live
>> to
>>> play a little..
>>>
>>>
>>>
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# how Miller builds Pd on Windows:
# http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2004-10/002981.html

CC = gcc
CXX = g++

cvs_root_dir = ../..
pd_src = $(cvs_root_dir)/pd
DLL_DIR = $(pd_src)/src

BIN_DIR = ../bin

VPATH = $(pd_src)/src

prefix = /usr/local/pd
exec_prefix = $(prefix)
includedir = $(prefix)/include
libdir = $(exec_prefix)/lib
mandir = $(prefix)/man
bindir = $(exec_prefix)/bin

GFLAGS = -DINSTALL_PREFIX=\"$(prefix)\"

# varibles to match packages/Makefile.buildlayout so that they can be easily
# overridden when building Pd-extended builds. 
libpddir = $(prefix)
pddocdir = $(libpdd

Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

That should work fine.

.hc

On 01/16/2013 06:44 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> gcc.exe ,GCC. 4.6.2
> 
> 
> 2013/1/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> 
>> On 01/16/2013 06:28 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>>> HC,
>>>
>>> I have two question at time..
>>>
>>> First, I need to add Cygwin to system path? If yes, I run SETX path
>>> c:\cygwin;c:\cygwin\bin;%path%  in Cygwin Terminal?
>>
>> This is probably optional but cygwin is useful.  You do it from the System
>> control panel:
>> http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000549.htm
>>
>> If you install TortoiseSVN, I don't think you need cygwin at all (watch out
>> for download links in the big add in that page):
>> http://tortoisesvn.net/downloads.html
>>
>>> Two, In session: "Copying Libgmp-10Dll for Cc1.Exe" I don't have
>>> /mingw/libexec/gcc/mingw32/4.7.2/ but I have
>>> /mingw/libexec/gcc/mingw32/4.6.2  I need to create the 4.7.2 directory or
>>> copy the dll's to 4.6.2?
>>
>> Copy the dlls to the existing folder, don't create a new one.  You can tell
>> which version of gcc you have by doing:
>>
>> gcc --version
>>
>> My guess is that you have 4.6.2, which should work fine.
>>
>> .hc
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/1/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>>>

 Start by installing Jack on your windows machine and setting up a Pd
>> build
 environment:
 http://puredata.info/docs/developer/WindowsMinGW

 You can skip the "Building library dependencies for Windows from SVN
 '/sources'" section for now.

 Then in the MSYS MinGW shell, do this:

 git clone git://
 pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pd-extended.git
 cd pd-extended/src
 make -f makefile.mingw

 That should give you a regular Pd build.  Then download a Pd-extended
 0.43.4
 zip version and unzip it.  I usually put it on my desktop.  Then you can
 install your new build into it:

 make -f makefile.mingw
 DESTDIR="$USERPROFILE/Desktop/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130115 prefix=
>> install

 If that works, then you're ready to try to build against Jack.  Replace
 pd-extended/src/makefile.mingw with makefile.mingw that is attached to
>> this
 email, and try this:

 cd pd-extended/src
 make -f makefile.mingw clean
 make -f makefile.mingw
 DESTDIR="$USERPROFILE/Desktop/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130115 prefix=
>> install

 .hc

 On 01/16/2013 02:07 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> Wow If I had the knowledge to do.. (!) *.*
>
> But I can try... I need documentation to learn.. Where can I begin?
>
>
> 2013/1/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>
>>
>> I agree, it should be included.  Why don't you try to build it?  Or
 maybe
>> if
>> patco has some time, he could take a look.
>>
>> Its much too late to include it in 0.43.4, but once its working, its
 easy
>> to
>> include in nightly builds of 0.44.
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On 01/16/2013 12:58 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>>> Hello list,
>>>
>>> Excuse the hassle... But I think this very important ..
>>>
>>> The windows version of pd-extended 0.43 don't have support to Jack..
>>>
>>> It would be great can connect my new pd extended release to ableton
 live
>> to
>>> play a little..
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

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On 01/16/2013 06:28 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> HC,
> 
> I have two question at time..
> 
> First, I need to add Cygwin to system path? If yes, I run SETX path
> c:\cygwin;c:\cygwin\bin;%path%  in Cygwin Terminal?

This is probably optional but cygwin is useful.  You do it from the System
control panel:
http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000549.htm

If you install TortoiseSVN, I don't think you need cygwin at all (watch out
for download links in the big add in that page):
http://tortoisesvn.net/downloads.html

> Two, In session: "Copying Libgmp-10Dll for Cc1.Exe" I don't have
> /mingw/libexec/gcc/mingw32/4.7.2/ but I have
> /mingw/libexec/gcc/mingw32/4.6.2  I need to create the 4.7.2 directory or
> copy the dll's to 4.6.2?

Copy the dlls to the existing folder, don't create a new one.  You can tell
which version of gcc you have by doing:

gcc --version

My guess is that you have 4.6.2, which should work fine.

.hc

> 
> 
> 
> 2013/1/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> 
>>
>> Start by installing Jack on your windows machine and setting up a Pd build
>> environment:
>> http://puredata.info/docs/developer/WindowsMinGW
>>
>> You can skip the "Building library dependencies for Windows from SVN
>> '/sources'" section for now.
>>
>> Then in the MSYS MinGW shell, do this:
>>
>> git clone git://
>> pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pd-extended.git
>> cd pd-extended/src
>> make -f makefile.mingw
>>
>> That should give you a regular Pd build.  Then download a Pd-extended
>> 0.43.4
>> zip version and unzip it.  I usually put it on my desktop.  Then you can
>> install your new build into it:
>>
>> make -f makefile.mingw
>> DESTDIR="$USERPROFILE/Desktop/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130115 prefix= install
>>
>> If that works, then you're ready to try to build against Jack.  Replace
>> pd-extended/src/makefile.mingw with makefile.mingw that is attached to this
>> email, and try this:
>>
>> cd pd-extended/src
>> make -f makefile.mingw clean
>> make -f makefile.mingw
>> DESTDIR="$USERPROFILE/Desktop/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130115 prefix= install
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On 01/16/2013 02:07 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>>> Wow If I had the knowledge to do.. (!) *.*
>>>
>>> But I can try... I need documentation to learn.. Where can I begin?
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/1/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>>>

 I agree, it should be included.  Why don't you try to build it?  Or
>> maybe
 if
 patco has some time, he could take a look.

 Its much too late to include it in 0.43.4, but once its working, its
>> easy
 to
 include in nightly builds of 0.44.

 .hc

 On 01/16/2013 12:58 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> Excuse the hassle... But I think this very important ..
>
> The windows version of pd-extended 0.43 don't have support to Jack..
>
> It would be great can connect my new pd extended release to ableton
>> live
 to
> play a little..
>
>
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Start by installing Jack on your windows machine and setting up a Pd build
environment:
http://puredata.info/docs/developer/WindowsMinGW

You can skip the "Building library dependencies for Windows from SVN
'/sources'" section for now.

Then in the MSYS MinGW shell, do this:

git clone git://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pd-extended.git
cd pd-extended/src
make -f makefile.mingw

That should give you a regular Pd build.  Then download a Pd-extended 0.43.4
zip version and unzip it.  I usually put it on my desktop.  Then you can
install your new build into it:

make -f makefile.mingw
DESTDIR="$USERPROFILE/Desktop/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130115 prefix= install

If that works, then you're ready to try to build against Jack.  Replace
pd-extended/src/makefile.mingw with makefile.mingw that is attached to this
email, and try this:

cd pd-extended/src
make -f makefile.mingw clean
make -f makefile.mingw
DESTDIR="$USERPROFILE/Desktop/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130115 prefix= install

.hc

On 01/16/2013 02:07 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> Wow If I had the knowledge to do.. (!) *.*
> 
> But I can try... I need documentation to learn.. Where can I begin?
> 
> 
> 2013/1/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> 
>>
>> I agree, it should be included.  Why don't you try to build it?  Or maybe
>> if
>> patco has some time, he could take a look.
>>
>> Its much too late to include it in 0.43.4, but once its working, its easy
>> to
>> include in nightly builds of 0.44.
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On 01/16/2013 12:58 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>>> Hello list,
>>>
>>> Excuse the hassle... But I think this very important ..
>>>
>>> The windows version of pd-extended 0.43 don't have support to Jack..
>>>
>>> It would be great can connect my new pd extended release to ableton live
>> to
>>> play a little..
>>>
>>>
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# how Miller builds Pd on Windows:
# http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2004-10/002981.html

CC = gcc
CXX = g++

cvs_root_dir = ../..
pd_src = $(cvs_root_dir)/pd
DLL_DIR = $(pd_src)/src

BIN_DIR = ../bin

VPATH = $(pd_src)/src

prefix = /usr/local/pd
exec_prefix = $(prefix)
includedir = $(prefix)/include
libdir = $(exec_prefix)/lib
mandir = $(prefix)/man
bindir = $(exec_prefix)/bin

GFLAGS = -DINSTALL_PREFIX=\"$(prefix)\"

# varibles to match packages/Makefile.buildlayout so that they can be easily
# overridden when building Pd-extended builds. 
libpddir = $(prefix)
pddocdir = $(libpddir)/doc
libpdbindir = $(libpddir)/bin

PDEXEC = pd.exe
PDDLL = pd.dll
DLLWRAP= dllwrap

MORECFLAGS = -O3 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer 

PADIR = $(pd_src)/portaudio
ASIODIR = $(pd_src)/asio/ASIOSDK2
ASIOINC = -I$(ASIODIR)/common -I$(ASIODIR)/host -I$(ASIODIR)/host/pc
INCPA = -I$(PADIR) -I$(PADIR)/include -I$(PADIR)/src/common 
-I$(PADIR)/src/os/win $(ASIOINC)
INCLUDE = -I$(pd_src)/src -I/c/Progra~1/jack/includes 
-I/c/Progra~2/jack/includes -I/c/Progra~3/jack/includes
GINCLUDE = -I/usr/local/include $(INCLUDE)

LDFLAGS = -L/c/Progra~1/jack/lib -L/c/Progra~2/jack/lib -L/c/Progra~3/jack/lib
LIBS = -lm -lwsock32 -lwinmm -lole32 -lpthreadGC2 -ljack

OPT_CFLAGS = 

WARN_CFLAGS = -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-unused \
-Wno-unused-parameter -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch
# Some old code in asio/ASIOSDK2/common/combase.h needs to be ignored,
# we do this by setting the WINVER macro to min Windows XP aka 5.1.
# Also, for SetDllDirectory() s_loader.c, we need a minium of Windows
# XP SP1.  WINVER isnt' fine-grained enough for that, so we use the
# next minor version of Windows, 5.2.
ARCH_CFLAGS = -DPD -DPD_INTERNAL -DPA_USE_ASIO -DPA_USE_WMME -DWINVER=0x0502 \
-DUSEAPI_MMIO -DUSEAPI_PORTAUDIO -mms-bitfields -DWISHAPP='"wish85.exe"'

CFLAGS += $(ARCH_CFLAGS) $(WARN_CFLAGS) $(OPT_CFLAGS) $(MORECFLAGS)

STRIP = strip --strip-unneeded -R .note -R .comment

# the sources

PASRC = s_audio_pa.c s_audio_paring.c \
s_audio_mmio.c s_midi_mmio.c \
$(PADIR)/src/common/pa_stream.c \
$(PADIR)/src/common/pa_trace.c \
$(PADIR)/src/common/pa_process.c \
$(PADIR)/src/common/pa_front.c \
$(PADIR)/src/common/pa_dither.c \
$(PADIR)/src/common/pa_cpuload.c \
$(PADIR)/src/common/pa_converters.c \
$(PADIR)/src/common/pa_allocation.c \
$(PADIR)/src/common/pa_ringbuffer.c \
$(PADIR)/src/os/win/pa_win_hostapis.c \
$(PADIR)/src/os/win/pa_win_util.c \
$(PADIR)/src/os/win/pa_win_waveformat.c \
$(PADIR)/src/os/win/pa_wi

Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Esteban Viveros]

Wow If I had the knowledge to do.. (!) *.*

But I can try... I need documentation to learn.. Where can I begin?


2013/1/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> I agree, it should be included.  Why don't you try to build it?  Or maybe
> if
> patco has some time, he could take a look.
>
> Its much too late to include it in 0.43.4, but once its working, its easy
> to
> include in nightly builds of 0.44.
>
> .hc
>
> On 01/16/2013 12:58 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> > Hello list,
> >
> > Excuse the hassle... But I think this very important ..
> >
> > The windows version of pd-extended 0.43 don't have support to Jack..
> >
> > It would be great can connect my new pd extended release to ableton live
> to
> > play a little..
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

I agree, it should be included.  Why don't you try to build it?  Or maybe if
patco has some time, he could take a look.

Its much too late to include it in 0.43.4, but once its working, its easy to
include in nightly builds of 0.44.

.hc

On 01/16/2013 12:58 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> Hello list,
> 
> Excuse the hassle... But I think this very important ..
> 
> The windows version of pd-extended 0.43 don't have support to Jack..
> 
> It would be great can connect my new pd extended release to ableton live to
> play a little..
> 
> 
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Re: [PD] JACK & the -rt flag

[Lorenzo Sutton]

Tyler Leavitt wrote:
> Hello,
>
> This may be a silly question, but when using pd with realtime enabled
> in JACK is it necessary to start pd with the -rt flag?

Well.. not strictly necessary but it will (at least in my experience)
improve performance, especially for heavy patches.

Lorenzo.
>
> Thanks,
> Tyler
>
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Re: [PD] jack audio pilot

[Dominique Fober]

you could try to connect jack system:in to another application (try audacity 
for example), just to see if it comes from pd or from jack
--
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Le 15 mars 2011 à 10:32, Coralie Diatkine a écrit :

> no, for the moment, I'm just using the powerbook internal card. I checked the 
> preferences. I have the feeling the problem is simple, and right under my 
> nose, though.
> 
> 2011/3/15 Dominique Fober 
> are you using a specific audio card?
> did you checked jack audio settings? (jackpilot -> preferences)
> --
> Dom
> 
> Le 14 mars 2011 à 23:30, Coralie Diatkine a écrit :
> 
>> Hi, and thanks for answering.
>> I solved part of the problem : reinstalled pd-ext. last version and threw 
>> the prefs away. I have jack 0.87 too. Pd is ok with both pilots. The thing 
>> is I still can't hear anything from the line in, be it when I do the audio 
>> test, or when I try to record a file. The vus don't respond either, they 
>> always show a low level...
>> Here is a screen capture. I also tried with an acd~1 2 3 4 connecting 
>> outputs # 3 4.
>> Coralie
>> 
>> 2011/3/14 Dominique Fober 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I'm also using Pd on Mac OS 10.6.6 and it works correctly with jack.
>> I'm using the latest jack os X version (0.87) and I guess you too. My pd 
>> version is 0.41.4-extended.
>> Could you check your versions and send more details concerning the problem 
>> (a crash report could help, if any).
>> --
>> Dominique
>> 
>> 
>> Le 14 mars 2011 à 20:14, Coralie Diatkine a écrit :
>> 
>> > Hi everyone
>> > I'm a beginner with puredata, and I'm trying to record sounds from other 
>> > applications via the line input.
>> > I'm on os X.6.6, and I use pd-extended.
>> >
>> > I've downloaded jack os X, and the configuration seems ok to me. I've 
>> > started jack pilot and launched pd, and every time I try to select an 
>> > audio pilot (jack or audio port), or when I try to trigger the audio test, 
>> > pd quits.
>> >
>> > Does someone have an explanation ?
>> > Thanks
>> > Coralie
>> >
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Re: [PD] jack audio pilot

[Dominique Fober]

are you using a specific audio card?
did you checked jack audio settings? (jackpilot -> preferences)
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Le 14 mars 2011 à 23:30, Coralie Diatkine a écrit :

> Hi, and thanks for answering.
> I solved part of the problem : reinstalled pd-ext. last version and threw the 
> prefs away. I have jack 0.87 too. Pd is ok with both pilots. The thing is I 
> still can't hear anything from the line in, be it when I do the audio test, 
> or when I try to record a file. The vus don't respond either, they always 
> show a low level...
> Here is a screen capture. I also tried with an acd~1 2 3 4 connecting outputs 
> # 3 4.
> Coralie
> 
> 2011/3/14 Dominique Fober 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm also using Pd on Mac OS 10.6.6 and it works correctly with jack.
> I'm using the latest jack os X version (0.87) and I guess you too. My pd 
> version is 0.41.4-extended.
> Could you check your versions and send more details concerning the problem (a 
> crash report could help, if any).
> --
> Dominique
> 
> 
> Le 14 mars 2011 à 20:14, Coralie Diatkine a écrit :
> 
> > Hi everyone
> > I'm a beginner with puredata, and I'm trying to record sounds from other 
> > applications via the line input.
> > I'm on os X.6.6, and I use pd-extended.
> >
> > I've downloaded jack os X, and the configuration seems ok to me. I've 
> > started jack pilot and launched pd, and every time I try to select an audio 
> > pilot (jack or audio port), or when I try to trigger the audio test, pd 
> > quits.
> >
> > Does someone have an explanation ?
> > Thanks
> > Coralie
> >
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Re: [PD] jack audio pilot

[Dominique Fober]

Hi,

I'm also using Pd on Mac OS 10.6.6 and it works correctly with jack.
I'm using the latest jack os X version 0.87 and I guess you too. My pd version 
is 0.41.4-extended.
Could you check your versions and send more details concerning the problem (a 
crash report could help, if any).
--
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Le 14 mars 2011 à 20:14, Coralie Diatkine a écrit :

> Hi everyone
> I'm a beginner with puredata, and I'm trying to record sounds from other 
> applications via the line input.
> I'm on os X.6.6, and I use pd-extended.
> 
> I've downloaded jack os X, and the configuration seems ok to me. I've started 
> jack pilot and launched pd, and every time I try to select an audio pilot 
> (jack or audio port), or when I try to trigger the audio test, pd quits.
> 
> Does someone have an explanation ?
> Thanks
> Coralie
> 
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Re: [PD] Jack OSX latest beta and Pd jack midi

[Si Mills]

Very true, I have used this method fairly successfully although jitter is 
unavoidable. What this new beta brings to the table however is sample accurate 
midi as it creates a bridge between core midi and jack. 


"Mike Moser-Booth"  wrote:

>MIDI routing in OSX can be done using the built-in IAC drivers in the
>AudioMIDI Setup.
>
>.mmb
>
>On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 4:04 AM, Si Mills  wrote:
>
>> Hi, the latest beta for jack osx is pretty significant in that its
>> essentially rewire for open source.
>>
>> I'm just testing it out however, and Pd, when running in jack mode,
>doesn't
>> seem to report its midi ports to JackPilot. Is the support for jack
>midi
>> already built in our does our need to be developed?
>>
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Re: [PD] Jack OSX latest beta and Pd jack midi

[Mike Moser-Booth]

MIDI routing in OSX can be done using the built-in IAC drivers in the
AudioMIDI Setup.

.mmb

On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 4:04 AM, Si Mills  wrote:

> Hi, the latest beta for jack osx is pretty significant in that its
> essentially rewire for open source.
>
> I'm just testing it out however, and Pd, when running in jack mode, doesn't
> seem to report its midi ports to JackPilot. Is the support for jack midi
> already built in our does our need to be developed?
>
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Re: [PD] Jack, Pd-extended, Lucid and me.

[Pedro Lopes]

I really don't recall where this pd came from, but command line says:
pe...@arkana:~$ pdextended -version
Pd version 0.42-5extended-20100530
compiled 09:02:05 May 30 2010

And yes, I'm on karmic (9.10).

>On monday, I will try to run my patch with the 0.42.5 rc4 on an Hardy... we
will see if it works or >not...
In my mind it doesn't "compile" that the issue would be much
Ubuntu-version-dependent, but if you say you could easily run 4 instances of
this exact patch in Hardy and cannot no longer in Lucid.. something is going
on (as Americans say: something "fishy").

Good luck with that :)
Pedro

On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 1:39 AM, Olivier Baudu wrote:

> Thank you Pedro for all your tests and posts...
>
> You said you are on an Ubuntu 9.10.
> Do you use the pd-extended 0.42.5 nightly auto-builded or did you build a
> 0.41.4 for 9.10 ?
>
> On monday, I will try to run my patch with the 0.42.5 rc4 on an Hardy... we
> will see if it works or not...
>
> My problem is that I can't install Ubuntu 8.04 on my new laptop because
> it's too young for all his hardware to be recognized.
> And I confirm that everything is working fine with an Hardy, Pd-ext 0.41.4
> and jack from the official repository.
>
> 01ivier.
>
>
>
>
> 2010/7/7 Pedro Lopes 
>
> I was on the train so I had to kill some time :)
>>
>> I tried running jack with buffer size 4k and it worked a lot better, using
>> H4 usb audio. Just one instance dropped jack percentage from ~15%to 1/2 %.
>>
>> It stopped giving A/D/A sync errors in pd console too. But when I fire the
>> second instance... the CPU just bursts to load the patch and once it run
>> with a lot of buffer glitches and another time it didn't even load and jack
>> got so slow that was zombified.
>>
>> Weird thing is a lot of times, the second instance dies, and jack
>> survives... thus could imply that pd is actually crashing for some odd
>> reason. I should try this in my other Linux too, to see if I can get any
>> meaningful information - so far all I did was blab, sorry.
>>
>> best of luck with this,
>> Pedro
>>
>> p.s: I never got this behaviour with any other pd file, should be
>> interesting to see what others on this list report using your patch. I
>> usually never fire 4 pd instances, but sometimes I use two, on windows I had
>> a stupid habit of using zillions (like 5 or more) instances of pd because I
>> double clicked a file and he always opened a new instance for that =P But
>> never had any trouble.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Pedro Lopes wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Olivier,
>>>
>>> I dont have much time on my hands now, but I tested your patch in my
>>> Ubuntu 9.10 using jack. results:
>>>
>>> 1) I lauched the first one, it took quite a while and CPU bursted as soon
>>> as the patch opened (meaning.. heavy patch :D)
>>> 1.1) I draw and played a sequence, audio is okay.
>>> 2) I launched the second. Major CPU burst, that pdextended went almost to
>>> 90% cpu all the time
>>> 2.1) The audio began to glitch. (but no xruns on jack)
>>> 3) I launched a pdextended just to play test audio sinewave, it launched
>>> fairly quick (of course the CPU was busy with other instances..so not as
>>> quick as usual) and played without glitch.
>>>
>>> I need to test more with more time on my hands, but it seems that its
>>> more related to how heavy the script is rather than the jack setup. But i
>>> really need to test it further, and change jack latency to see if it affects
>>> that much... jack never went past 10% os usage, which is normal for that
>>> many instances (sometimes i use pd and renoise, and it goes much higher).
>>>
>>> My jack setup was:
>>> - rt (I have rt kernel)
>>> - buffer at 512 and 3 period
>>> - using the onboard sound card which is sh*t
>>> - my laptop is also sh*t for nowadays standards (AMD 1.9 Turion X2)
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Pedro
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:14 AM, Olivier Baudu 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi.

 I'm going to try to expose the problems I've met during the last two
 month dealing with the title of my post.
 Sorry if it's confused.

 This winter, I used to work on an Ubuntu Hardy, Extended 0.41.4 and with
 the jackd and qjackctl from the official repository (by the way, my sound
 card is a firewire Presonus Firepod).
 I had no problem to use 4 different instances of Pd at the same time
 using jackd as sound server. (and I can precise I didn't need RT-kernel to
 do what I wanted).

 I recently change for Ubuntu Lucid.
 So I also change for Pd 0.42.5 (rc4) and the new official jackd and
 qjackctl.

 If I use the kernel 2.6.32-23, I can play my patch on one instance, it's
 stable but the sound crunch a little bit sometimes.
 I also can execute my patch on 4 instances, but the sound is awful and 3
 minutes later, Jack quit.

 So I've try the 2.6.31-11-rt.
 In Pd-ext, If I change directly from ALSA to Jack, pd quit. Every time I
 have to change to OSS befo