Re: Flash Diffusers & Geekness
Hi Tom R. In a lot of respects, I guess it comes down to doing what one feels is right by their own conscience. For me, taking a photograph of a painting hanging in a chain restaurant, for personal use only, that was painted as part of an art class, and was paid for by the restaurant chain, does not seem, to me, to violate any ethical code. No more than traveling to a museum (or anywhere) and photographing a painting you like. I agree that libraries are not violating copyright laws. I am stating they are violating the spirit of those laws (in my mind). They were intended (one of the intentions) to make sure that an author got reimbursed for each and every use of his work (I think). So in many respects, there is no essential difference between 1) the library buying a book and loaning it out a thousand times, and 2) the library buying a book, making 1000 copies and giving them away. In either case one could roughly estimate that the author lost out on royalties of 999 sales. I'm not saying there in anything wrong with libraries. Tom C. - Original Message - From: "Tom Rittenhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 4:15 AM Subject: Re: Flash Diffusers & Geekness > Under current international copyright law someone always > owns the copyright. Just who that is seems to vary from > country to country as Bill Robb and I discovered a while > back in a rather long discussion on this list. > > The Library is not violating copyright, no more than you are > when you lend a friend a book. Once you buy a copy of a > copyrighted item you own that copy, you can do what ever you > please with that copy except make more copies. > --Tom > > > aimcompute wrote: > > > > But if the work is not copyrighted, how can it be copyright infringement? > > >From what I understand the work belongs to the corporation not the > > individual(s). In that case one could argue that taking a picture of > > virtually anything is copyright infringement because it is someones > > handiwork... > > > > Just a question I have wondered about... Public Libraries have to be the > > biggest, most blatant violators of the spirit of the copyright laws. I > > appreciate them, but the authors & artists are potentially losing billions > > of dollars because of this sort of "communism". > > > > Tom C. > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Nicholas Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 1:04 PM > > Subject: RE: Flash Diffusers & Geekness > > > > > > > > --- "Peifer, William [OCDUS]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Does this sound like it may work? Any other > > > > suggestions? > > > > > > It sounds like something along the lines of copyright > > > infringment, even though there is no artist's name it > > > is still someone's handiwork. > > > > > > Nick > > > > > > __ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 > > > a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > - > > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > > > > > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S gripes
Isaac wrote: > Didn't we all learn with the good old match needle? It went up and down > too, and it never seemed to confuse people. The shutter speed indicators > in my LX are vertical, as are a couple of other Pentax cameras. I have > never heard of this being a problem before... But the MZ-S and the Z-1p is totally different ball game. The point with the MZ-S interface is that you can instantly switch between auto exposure an manual mode. Ie. manual mode can be just as fast in operation as auto mode. For this you ned an intuitive relationship between interface and readout. Can anyone tell me whats the intuitive way to turn a horizontal dial in order to get a bar on a scale to move upwards? This isn't about over and under exposure but + and - which are the symbols you see in the viewfinder. An up and down scale operated by a left/right wheel has to be learned; a horizontal bar with an horizontal wheel don't; its totally intuitive. Personally I'm unable to learn the direction on the Z-1p because it isn't logical. Besides, I do believe all other cameras on the planet have horizontal bars possibly for a good reason. I do believe that Pentax is aware of this problem. After all they have implemented a custom function where you program which direction on the wheel in order to give under or over exposure. This of course would have been totally unecesary if the exposure bar was horisontal. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: First Impressions-Pentax MZ-S
OK. I would be interested to see what Rick had to say about the new Pentax. He was always a true blue N_ guy when he lived here. Although last time I saw him he was singing the praises of the 645N. Robert << Barry was the salesman. He said that they had it a bout 2 hrs before I walked in the store. He told me that Pentax was allocating one to a store, because of the short supply. They had no accessories for the camera. Just the one body. >> - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: First Impressions-Pentax MZ-S
OK. I would be interested to see what Rick had to say about the new Pentax. He was always a true blue N_ guy when he lived here. Although last time I saw him he was singing the praises of the 645N. Robert << Barry was the salesman. He said that they had it a bout 2 hrs before I walked in the store. He told me that Pentax was allocating one to a store, because of the short supply. They had no accessories for the camera. Just the one body. >> - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: First Impressions-Pentax MZ-S
Barry was the salesman. He said that they had it a bout 2 hrs before I walked in the store. He told me that Pentax was allocating one to a store, because of the short supply. They had no accessories for the camera. Just the one body. Darryl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Who was your salesperson? Rick is a good friend of mine from when he lived > here in San Angelo. And to think he didn't let ME know they had a MZ-S! > Robert > > << Stopped by Arlington Camera yesterday and they had one MZ-S in stock >> > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S gripes
MIchel wrote: > On classic Pentax cameras, a left to right under/overexposure scale would only work >with > a clockwise arrangements of speed selection on the shutter dial (LX, MX...). > > But then, Pentax would have to reverse the sequence of F-stop on their lenses for >this > to hold true. Right now, you turn the ring __towards the right__ (clockwise) to >reduce > overexposure, whereas you turn the shutter speed knob __toward the left__ > (counterclockwise) to accomplish the same thing. One of them would have to change, > or we would end up buying Sigma lenses, or maybe Chinon. I truly can't see a problem here. The 645n has a horizontal exposure bar and the same interface and aperture direction of other Pentaxes. My point isn't really the orientation of the bar but which way do you turn the dial? If you have horizontal bar the turning direction would be intuitive. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Some of my Grandfather Mountain stuf online
After reading about Grandfather Mountain for so long on the list, I am happy to be able to see the area through your images. Great pictures. Beautiful area of N. Carolina. Jim A. way out here in Oregon. > From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Organization: RobertsTech > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 09:25:42 -0400 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Some of my Grandfather Mountain stuf online > > http://www.robertstech.com/g_father.htm > > A few select items from my trip to North Carolina. > > -- > Mark Roberts > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S gripes
Pål Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Mark wrote: > > >> Absolutely. Seeing an LED bargraph go up for overexposure and down for >> underexposure just plain makes sense. > >But the point wasn't if it makes sense isolated. But whether it makes >sense in conjunction with its control dial which goes left right. For >me at least, theres no "logic" direction for a left/right wheel in >order to make, say, the scale go up. Agreed. I'd much prefer it if the adjustment wheel went up and down as well. But it's not a big issue to me. I rather have it half right than all wrong (with both the thumbwheel and the scale being horizontal). Anyway, no sense speculating about "what ifs". We've got what we've got. It seems to work well for almost everyone and I for one prefer it just the way it is. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S gripes
- Original Message - From: "Pål Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 15:07 Subject: Re: MZ-S gripes > Mark wrote: > > > > Absolutely. Seeing an LED bargraph go up for overexposure and down for > > underexposure just plain makes sense. > > But the point wasn't if it makes sense isolated. But whether it makes sense in >conjunction with its control dial which goes left right. For me at least, theres no "logic" direction for a left/right wheel in order to make, say, the scale go up. > In addition, that the bar graph goes up for overexposure certainly isn't in hamony >with other, older Pentax bodies. On eg. the LX making the the bar graph go up means shorter shutter speeds - underexposure. > Most people, and all text books, visualize exposure as varying around a zero value >on a horizontal scale. Hell, all trains of numbers that relate to each other are visualized on a horizontal scale. The same is the case for the aperture scale used in calculating exposure. > > Pål > With the significant exception of temperature scales... :-) But seriously, I can sympatize with your position, but it is dependent on a number of other factors. On classic Pentax cameras, a left to right under/overexposure scale would only work with a clockwise arrangements of speed selection on the shutter dial (LX, MX...). But then, Pentax would have to reverse the sequence of F-stop on their lenses for this to hold true. Right now, you turn the ring __towards the right__ (clockwise) to reduce overexposure, whereas you turn the shutter speed knob __toward the left__ (counterclockwise) to accomplish the same thing. One of them would have to change, or we would end up buying Sigma lenses, or maybe Chinon. Michel - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S gripes
Pål Jensen wrote: > > Mark wrote: > > > Absolutely. Seeing an LED bargraph go up for overexposure and down for > > underexposure just plain makes sense. > > But the point wasn't if it makes sense isolated. But whether it makes sense in >conjunction with its control dial which goes left right. For me at least, theres no >"logic" direction for a left/right wheel in order to make, say, the scale go up. > In addition, that the bar graph goes up for overexposure certainly isn't in hamony >with other, older Pentax bodies. On eg. the LX making the the bar graph go up means >shorter shutter speeds - underexposure. > Most people, and all text books, visualize exposure as varying around a zero value >on a horizontal scale. Hell, all trains of numbers that relate to each other are >visualized on a horizontal scale. The same is the case for the aperture scale used in >calculating exposure. > > Pål Didn't we all learn with the good old match needle? It went up and down too, and it never seemed to confuse people. The shutter speed indicators in my LX are vertical, as are a couple of other Pentax cameras. I have never heard of this being a problem before... Isaac > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S gripes
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 12:50:01AM +0200, Pål Jensen wrote: > - Whats the theory behind having the exposure bar oriented vertically when exposure >is controlled by horizontal movement; left - right? I guess it's part of the "retro" style of the camera. The K1000 has a needle that goes up and down. Don't the other K-series cameras have a similar exposure indicator? -- Francis Tang, Postgraduate Research Student, LFCS, Edinburgh. Visiting: AG14, FB Mathematik, TU Darmstadt, Deutschland. Tel: +49 174/3545241 (D2 Voda) ZNr: S215/215 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/home/fhlt/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Flash functionality on MZ-S
Eh? I got Patrick's post in plain text. Do you get something different Doug? Frank. On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 05:33:47PM -0400, Doug Brewer wrote: > Hi Patrick, > > First, welcome to the list. Please use plain text to communicate with the list. > > For your answers, see below: > > > At 7:29 PM +02006/8/01, Patrick Genovese brandished a favorite crayon and scribbled: > Hi, > > The spec sheet on the Pentax US Web site says the following: > > > - High-speed flash synchronization up to 1/6000 sec. with built-in flash or >with new AF360FGZ wireless TTL flash unit > > > Q) How does the sync up to 1/6000 work ? (multiple flash bursts ??) > > > Yes, that's how it's been described to me. > > > The spec sheet also says: > > > -AF360FGZ wireless flash unit allows multiple flash units to be controlled >without cords and with TTL flash exposure; contrast control flash settings give >multiple contrast levels. > > > Q1) Do all the flash units in a multi flash arrangement have to be AF360GFZs ? > > > Yes. Since the MZ-S is the first body to offer this, the flash introduced with the >body will naturally be the first flash to take advantage of it. > > > Q2) Is the remote flash controller some sort if IR / Radio transmitter ? > > > Yes. > > > Q3) If Q2 is yes, then is the transmitter built into the camera or the AF360FGZ ? > > > The transmitter is built into the RTF on the camera. > > > Q4) If the MZ-S has no on board "transmitter" then what about a separate pair of >gadgets (possibly third part) that fit onto the camera hotshoe & flash. This would >allow users with an existing investment in flashes like AF500FTZ, METZ & many others >to acheive the same functionality. (Pentax r u reading this ?) > > > There are third-party transmitters of all kinds, but I don't think any of them offer >TTL capabilities. > > > :-) > > Patrick > > Oh, and for Dick: The flash comp has apparently been built into the 360. At least, >that's my understanding. > > Doug > > -- > Douglas Forrest Brewer > Ashwood Lake Photography > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.alphoto.com > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > -- Francis Tang, Postgraduate Research Student, LFCS, Edinburgh. Visiting: AG14, FB Mathematik, TU Darmstadt, Deutschland. Tel: +49 174/3545241 (D2 Voda) ZNr: S215/215 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/home/fhlt/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Speed of autofocus 35mm vs 6x6
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I am sure this question may have been addressed before. Is 35mm autofocus > faster than 6x6 autofocusing? Even if there is speed difference I suppose > it is more theoretical than practical significance in real life. Any > comments from those who have used both? Might you share with us which 6X6 autofocusing system you're talking about. I've not heard of a 6X6 camera that autofocuses. Now there are 645 systems that autofocus. For example, the Pentax 645n, Mamiya 645AF, and the Contax 645. Are those the cameras you are talking about? Mark - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: What makes a Pentax user?
Succinctly said! Thank you sir. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 2:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: What makes a Pentax user? Chuck Riccardo wrote: > At first I thought of replacing my Nikon F2 system with something more modern. > Either the Nikon F5 or maybe a Minolta Maxxum 7. It never occurred to me to > buy a Pentax 35mm. What would be the advantage of the Pentax over the Nikon > or Minolta systems? Chuck, We talk about this probably once a year. We are also a bit paranoiac about seeming to be a lesser quality brand than Nikon or Canon. 1) I'd say we are proud of the quality of our glass and the broad lens compatibility since the K-mount bayonet was introduced in the '70's. The glass is quality and nearly every lens works on nearly every camera...makes a pretty broad system. 2) The equipment is a good value. We seem to be a price conscious group and Pentax equipment offers high quality but not at an outrageous price. Many of us feel that the equipment is as good as Nikon, Canon, or Minolta, but we are not paying for advertising hype or strangely exotic lenses which we won't be using. Furthermore, most of us are using older, pre-autofocus gear...but you could be doing that with Nikon, Canon, or Minolta too. Regards, Bob S. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S gripes
Mark wrote: > Absolutely. Seeing an LED bargraph go up for overexposure and down for > underexposure just plain makes sense. But the point wasn't if it makes sense isolated. But whether it makes sense in conjunction with its control dial which goes left right. For me at least, theres no "logic" direction for a left/right wheel in order to make, say, the scale go up. In addition, that the bar graph goes up for overexposure certainly isn't in hamony with other, older Pentax bodies. On eg. the LX making the the bar graph go up means shorter shutter speeds - underexposure. Most people, and all text books, visualize exposure as varying around a zero value on a horizontal scale. Hell, all trains of numbers that relate to each other are visualized on a horizontal scale. The same is the case for the aperture scale used in calculating exposure. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S gripes
Alexander wrote: > I think the whole "exposure bar problem" is primarily a matter of > familiarity. I've been using the thing for almost six years now. I don't get used to it! Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S gripes
Alexander wrote: > 1. When you think of something being "over or under" exposed you're > naturally thinking vertically. Absolutely. Seeing an LED bargraph go up for overexposure and down for underexposure just plain makes sense. > 2. The exposure bar in the PZ-1p is placed vertically along the right > side of the image in the view finder (so Pentax is following recent > tradition). > Personally, I prefer the vertical display. I shoot B&W exclusively > using the Hyper Manual mode with Spot metering and a modified Zone System > approach. To me the vertical display seems natural. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
FS: SMC Pentax-M 28/2.8
Anyone interested in this lens in great condition? I can't find any flaws with the glass, and the aperture ring/blades are crisp and snappy. Some external wear, but nothing serious. First offer of $60 US (plus shipping) gets it. Packaging will be excellent... you should be able to throw the box off a building and not damage the lens, though I've never tested it. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: First Impressions-Pentax MZ-S
Who was your salesperson? Rick is a good friend of mine from when he lived here in San Angelo. And to think he didn't let ME know they had a MZ-S! Robert << Stopped by Arlington Camera yesterday and they had one MZ-S in stock >> - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
MZ-S in Europe (Czechia) (was: MZ-S is comming to Poland)
For the PDML members from Europe's central and eastern parts: I just got this note from local Pentax distributor rep, that they will be selling MZ-S in second half June (so, Polish friends, come here if it's not there that soon ), and interestingly enough, there is also a set of MZ-S & FA AL 28-70/4 !!! The lens can still be bought new here. They have propably not yet heard about FA 24-90 lens, though. The price is about 1000 USD for the body alone, so it's quite expensive (that's including 22% VAT though). The 850$ prices quoted from some US mail-order companies is really tempting, if you are not able to deduct the VAT! Sadly, I will not be the one to buy the first MZ-S here. My student and part- time freelance finances simply do not permit :( And if for anything, I am putting money aside for an 2/24mm :) No more crappy af lenses which become wiggly after some more serious use! Frantisek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: LX Metering
Err, is it OFT or OTF? Never owned an LX but if one surfaces, and the condition and price are right, I could become an LX owner. Len --- > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Mark Cassino > Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 9:42 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: LX Metering > > > I thought I read somewhere that the LX could handle > very long exposures > with the OFT metering system. I've been fiddling > around with mine and > there seems to be a maximum duration for the exposure > based on the ISO > setting. At the slowest speed (ISO 6) the shutter > will stay open for 7 or > 8 minutes, and then shut. At the fastest (ISO 3200) > it will stay open for a > second or two and then shut. I tried testing it with > lens cap in place and > the front of the lens face down so no light could get > in - but even with > virtually no light these maximum times don't change. > Somehow I had the > idea that you could pop open the shutter in the dark > and it would stay open > for however long it took to get the correct exposure. > > Is my LX functioning correctly? (It _was_ serviced > by Pentax just 6 months > ago.) > > - MCC > - - - - - - - - - - > Mark Cassino > Kalamazoo, MI > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - - - - - - - - - - > Photos: > http://www.markcassino.com > - - - - - - - - - - > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Speed of autofocus 35mm vs 6x6
I am sure this question may have been addressed before. Is 35mm autofocus faster than 6x6 autofocusing? Even if there is speed difference I suppose it is more theoretical than practical significance in real life. Any comments from those who have used both? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What makes a Pentax user?
Chuck Riccardo wrote: > At first I thought of replacing my Nikon F2 system with something more modern. > Either the Nikon F5 or maybe a Minolta Maxxum 7. It never occurred to me to > buy a Pentax 35mm. What would be the advantage of the Pentax over the Nikon > or Minolta systems? Chuck, We talk about this probably once a year. We are also a bit paranoiac about seeming to be a lesser quality brand than Nikon or Canon. 1) I'd say we are proud of the quality of our glass and the broad lens compatibility since the K-mount bayonet was introduced in the '70's. The glass is quality and nearly every lens works on nearly every camera...makes a pretty broad system. 2) The equipment is a good value. We seem to be a price conscious group and Pentax equipment offers high quality but not at an outrageous price. Many of us feel that the equipment is as good as Nikon, Canon, or Minolta, but we are not paying for advertising hype or strangely exotic lenses which we won't be using. Furthermore, most of us are using older, pre-autofocus gear...but you could be doing that with Nikon, Canon, or Minolta too. Regards, Bob S. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S gripes
Paal, I think the whole "exposure bar problem" is primarily a matter of familiarity. I came to the PZ-1p from the Pentax 67. My first reaction to the little wheels and mini-buttons on the PZ-1p was shock! What ARE these things? Than I read the PZ-1p Users Manual! Wondered what I'd gotten myself into! And longed for the good old manual 67. But now I LOVE the PZ-1p. I think if the MZ-S is anywhere near as rugged and professional as early reports indicate no one will mind "the little differences." :-> Alexander Grigolia - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What makes a Pentax user?
and besides there are some features on a pentax that are not on a nikon unless you spend another few hundred dollers. Chuck Riccardo schrieb: > At first I thought of replacing my Nikon F2 system with something more modern. > Either the Nikon F5 or maybe a Minolta Maxxum 7. It never occurred to me to > buy a Pentax 35mm. What would be the advantage of the Pentax over the Nikon or > Minolta systems? Pentax cameras are smaller. What sense does it make for a 35mm camera like the Nikon F5 to be as big, as heavy, and as expensive as a medium format camera? The best Pentax camera is the professional LX with its near perfect metering system. If ever you use it you may easily become addicted. The solid and compact MZ-S seems to be very well-made, too, and it has a concept that none of the competition offers. A lot of Pentax lenses are really good. Most Pentax primes and some zooms are sharp, offer the best coatings, and very beautiful bokeh. K, M, A*, F*, FA*, and Limited series lenses offer very good mechanics, too. Compare a cheap (most Pentax lenses are cheaper, too) used SMC Pentax-M 1:1.4 50mm lens to the N. or M. equivalents, and you will know. Finally: Pentax is different, and so are its users. Arnold - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Filters for the SMCP-F Fisheye Zoom 17mm-28mm f/3.5-4.5
Yes, I guess its possible to mount a filter at the rear. The rear element is very small so you could apply a filter at the rear and maybe fix it with tape... Pål - Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax Discuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 1:18 AM Subject: Re: Filters for the SMCP-F Fisheye Zoom 17mm-28mm f/3.5-4.5 > > - Original Message - > From: "Pål Jensen" > Subject: Re: Filters for the SMCP-F Fisheye Zoom 17mm-28mm > f/3.5-4.5 > > > Well you can tape filters in place :-) > Actually on closer inspection what looks like filter threads > aren't... > > How big is the rear element on that lens? The reason why I ask > os because Pentax does have a rear filter holder (gels only) on > the 45mm f4 (6x7). Is it possible to put one, or something like > it onto the rear of the lens? It is really just a flat black > painted piece of spring steel. > > William Robb > Remember, the LX Gallery is coming up. > Please see: > http://pug.komkon.org/LX_Gallery/LX_Submit.html > for more information. > > > > > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Techie Alert! z1p and flash question
I worked at a daily paper for over a year and one of my most common assignments was sports. Since I do not (yet) own any fast lenses I almost always pushed my film to 1600 or 3200 ISO. The only thing problem was that while shooting I could tell that my flash was over-shooting the scene. And you could of course tell when the negs were developed that the players were ~way~ overexposed. At one football game my light meter indicated an ambient exposure of 1/125 @ f4 (nice stadium), so I shot at 250 f4 with flash. The flash again overexposed. It was never a problem that could not be corrected in photoshop, so I never paid a lot of attention to it thinking it was the meter being fooled by the night sky (even though I shot in CW mode). Anyway just a few minutes ago I was looking through the z1p's manual for another subject when the following line caught my eye. Found on page 125 under the "Flash" specifications it says "ISO range= 25-800." Does this mean that the in-camera flash meter is not compatible with an ISO over 800? If so, that would explain why my sports pix with pushed film were always overexposed. I tried to test this out with my handheld flash meter but the batteries died and I don't have any spare (for the meter). Ack! I tried that test a long time ago, but cannot remember the results but it seems as though it worked back then. Any comments? Thanks again. Nicholas Wright __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: SFX & InfraRed/which camera to use
The FA 20-35 is a fine, sharp lens, one of Pentax's best zooms. I use mine often, and find that my favorite pictures often come from it. It takes 58 mm. filters, but you should get the thin variety to avoid vignetting at 20 mm. Only drawback is that, if you leave a filter on, you can't attach the clip-on lens cap. Old plastic slip-over lens caps do the job - your photo store may have a drawer full of old lens caps. I've found that Nikkors and Schneiders fit. If you want one that reads Pentax, watch eBay for old Pentax slip-on metal lens covers. And if you still like fisheye, check out the sharp and inexpensive Russian Zenitar 16 mm. f2.8 fisheye - about $170 or so. It's so affordable you can have it and the 20-35. My photo in this month's PUG was made with it. Joe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What makes a Pentax user? Why are they different?
Chuck Riccardo wrote: > > Ah, so Pentax users are different? What makes them different? I can see that > they know what they want, and are very good at articulating it. Like Arnold said, it's the glass. Pentax makes great lenses. Plus, when Canon and Nikon decided a nice camera should be big, Pentax didn't listen. > I will go look at a Pentax 35mm. I can tell you this for sure, while I am > enjoying my Pentax 67 system, and I tolerate > its bulk and mass on photographic outings, I also long for a secondary > system to just have for casual use. Smaller and > lighter sure sounds good to me, and if that applies to the MZ and LX I will > go look at them. Thanks Take a look at a MZ-S too. Especially if they have a demo grip... tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Rolev Filter
Bill Owens wrote: > > After the seminars by Doug Brewer and Tony Sweet I decided to pick up an 81B > warming filter. What I ended up with is a Rolev "Magi-Glas". Anybody ever > hear of them? Glass made in West Germany and assembled in USA I found a pile of these at a place I used to work at. They had come from another store that had gone out of business. When the store I used to work at was sold (some five years after I had worked there), my old boss contacted me and asked what I'd give him for some of the old filters...including every last one of those Rolev Magi-Glas ones. I'm happy to hear that someone else has actually seen one! -Aaron who has a pile of 67mm green Magi-Glass filters somewhere in the back of his store - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX Metering
I've exposed on automatic for 45min when I aborted the exposure because I got bored. I used Kodachrome 64... Pål - Original Message - From: "Mark Cassino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 4:41 PM Subject: LX Metering > I thought I read somewhere that the LX could handle very long exposures > with the OFT metering system. I've been fiddling around with mine and > there seems to be a maximum duration for the exposure based on the ISO > setting. At the slowest speed (ISO 6) the shutter will stay open for 7 or > 8 minutes, and then shut. At the fastest (ISO 3200) it will stay open for a > second or two and then shut. I tried testing it with lens cap in place and > the front of the lens face down so no light could get in - but even with > virtually no light these maximum times don't change. Somehow I had the > idea that you could pop open the shutter in the dark and it would stay open > for however long it took to get the correct exposure. > > Is my LX functioning correctly? (It _was_ serviced by Pentax just 6 months > ago.) > > - MCC > - - - - - - - - - - > Mark Cassino > Kalamazoo, MI > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - - - - - - - - - - > Photos: > http://www.markcassino.com > - - - - - - - - - - > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S gripes
Alexander wrote: > 1. When you think of something being "over or under" exposed you're > naturally thinking vertically. Maybe. But I was thinking about ergonomics. You turn a dial left - right for something thats displayed up - down. Now do you turn the dial left or right in order to get the bar to go up or down? Wouldn't it be easier if when you turned the dial to the left the indicator moved left as well; ie. a horizontal bar? > 2. The exposure bar in the PZ-1p is placed vertically along the right > side of the image in the view finder (so Pentax is following recent > tradition). > Personally, I prefer the vertical display. I shoot B&W exclusively > using the Hyper Manual mode with Spot metering and a modified Zone System > approach. To me the vertical display seems natural. I certainly don't. I envision exposure as something around a metered value; left - right. I have constant problem with the bar orientation on the Z-1p; I always have to think - its not intuitive to me. I also always turn the dial the wrong way on the Z-1p; even when setting ISO value - I initially turn the dial the wrong direction. I suspect my problem is that its not intuitive to me what way to turn a horizontal dial in order to get a vertical scale to go up or down. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Marketing - was: The Beatles and an Asahi Pentax camera
Meanwhile, N is advertising on TV (at least here in North America), selling it's latest consumer SLR as the "SLR for people who are afraid of SLR's", or words to that effect. regards, frank Ernest Alejandria wrote: > On 6-10-01 Frank Theriault wrote: > > > > >I'm also not so sure that Pentax would have had that sophisticated > > >marketing > >dept > >back in '63 or '64. > > It's arguable whether they have one in 2001. Has anyone seen an ad for the > MZ-S yet? Come to think of it, I haven't seen a Pentax ad in any photo mag > in the last 6 months or so. > > Paulo E. > > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: What makes a Pentax user? Why are they different?
Ah, so Pentax users are different? What makes them different? I can see that they know what they want, and are very good at articulating it. I will go look at a Pentax 35mm. I can tell you this for sure, while I am enjoying my Pentax 67 system, and I tolerate its bulk and mass on photographic outings, I also long for a secondary system to just have for casual use. Smaller and lighter sure sounds good to me, and if that applies to the MZ and LX I will go look at them. Thanks Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Arnold Stark Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 1:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: What makes a Pentax user? Chuck Riccardo schrieb: > At first I thought of replacing my Nikon F2 system with something more modern. > Either the Nikon F5 or maybe a Minolta Maxxum 7. It never occurred to me to > buy a Pentax 35mm. What would be the advantage of the Pentax over the Nikon or > Minolta systems? Pentax cameras are smaller. What sense does it make for a 35mm camera like the Nikon F5 to be as big, as heavy, and as expensive as a medium format camera? The best Pentax camera is the professional LX with its near perfect metering system. If ever you use it you may easily become addicted. The solid and compact MZ-S seems to be very well-made, too, and it has a concept that none of the competition offers. A lot of Pentax lenses are really good. Most Pentax primes and some zooms are sharp, offer the best coatings, and very beautiful bokeh. K, M, A*, F*, FA*, and Limited series lenses offer very good mechanics, too. Compare a cheap (most Pentax lenses are cheaper, too) used SMC Pentax-M 1:1.4 50mm lens to the N. or M. equivalents, and you will know. Finally: Pentax is different, and so are its users. Arnold - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What makes a Pentax user?
Chuck Riccardo schrieb: > At first I thought of replacing my Nikon F2 system with something more modern. > Either the Nikon F5 or maybe a Minolta Maxxum 7. It never occurred to me to > buy a Pentax 35mm. What would be the advantage of the Pentax over the Nikon or > Minolta systems? Pentax cameras are smaller. What sense does it make for a 35mm camera like the Nikon F5 to be as big, as heavy, and as expensive as a medium format camera? The best Pentax camera is the professional LX with its near perfect metering system. If ever you use it you may easily become addicted. The solid and compact MZ-S seems to be very well-made, too, and it has a concept that none of the competition offers. A lot of Pentax lenses are really good. Most Pentax primes and some zooms are sharp, offer the best coatings, and very beautiful bokeh. K, M, A*, F*, FA*, and Limited series lenses offer very good mechanics, too. Compare a cheap (most Pentax lenses are cheaper, too) used SMC Pentax-M 1:1.4 50mm lens to the N. or M. equivalents, and you will know. Finally: Pentax is different, and so are its users. Arnold - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The Beatles and an Asahi Pentax camera
On 6-10-01 Frank Theriault wrote: >I'm also not so sure that Pentax would have had that sophisticated > >marketing >dept >back in '63 or '64. It's arguable whether they have one in 2001. Has anyone seen an ad for the MZ-S yet? Come to think of it, I haven't seen a Pentax ad in any photo mag in the last 6 months or so. Paulo E. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: AF and Wide Angles
Mark Cassino wrote: > Given the great DOF of these lenses, I don't know if it really matters > (I've used the F17-28 on AF several times without any problem.) I'd be > interested if newer generations of SAFOX or other camera brands are more > accurate. It certainly matters to me: I have a beatup Vivitar 17~28 manual focus lens that I use with my MZ5 and to this day I have never been quite certain about the focus. The focus confirmation beeps and I click; later when I get the 12"x15" enlargements I know I've been tricked again! I've tried it all: scale focussing, using a magnifier etc.- nothing works as the MZ5 focussing screen sits firmly on the fence. I'm now saving for the Pentax FA 20~35/4; anybody have any opinions re correct focussing with this lens? Thanks, RK PS: I also have the Pentax 17~28 Fisheye zoom and I find the focus confirmation with this lens to be dead accurate every time. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: different Tamrons 2.5/24mm?
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I came upon a nice condition Tamron 2.5/24mm BBAR in Pentax Adaptall > mount. (...) I have the same... > Was there any difference in quality among the different "versions" > (or finishes) of Tamron's adaptall 2.5/24mm ? Only minor changes, it's the same lens. > And what are your comments on quality of either? Mine performs very well. Some flare problems may occur, but BBAR is not SMC... I like the focal length a lot, it's one of my most often used lenses. Gabor - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
PDF Manuals: SFXn, K2
Hi! Anybody got or seen these manuals (either user or service)? I talked to Pentax Czech distributor but they don't have (neither have Pentax Europe) the K2 or K2DMD manuals, and they won't send me the service manuals (although they no longer repair the camera! Do they fear I might start producing a K2 copy or what?!). Good news: I might get the SFXn manual soon, and I will put it on web, hopefully (after 4 months of waiting for it!!!) Bad news: the manual is in somewhat called ChiWriter. I _might_ be able to convert it to TeX, but installing Linux again on my 1 gig drive to just convert this manual will gonna be pain in the a** :) So if anybody here has ChiWriter > TeX (or even better, ChiW > RTF/ WORD/ etc), please let me know (if you are willing to do it)! Please, if anybody got any manual (service/user) for K2 or K2DMD, which you could scan or something, let me know!!! Thanks Frantisek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX Metering
- Original Message - From: "Mark Cassino" < Subject: LX Metering > I thought I read somewhere that the LX could handle very long exposures > with the OFT metering system. I've been fiddling around with mine and > there seems to be a maximum duration for the exposure based on the ISO > setting. At the slowest speed (ISO 6) the shutter will stay open for 7 or > 8 minutes, and then shut. At the fastest (ISO 3200) it will stay open for a > second or two and then shut. I tried testing it with lens cap in place and > the front of the lens face down so no light could get in - but even with > virtually no light these maximum times don't change. Somehow I had the > idea that you could pop open the shutter in the dark and it would stay open > for however long it took to get the correct exposure. > > Is my LX functioning correctly? (It _was_ serviced by Pentax just 6 months > ago.) Mine seems to work the same way. I am just in the process of checking it on the minimum iso setting (so far it has held the shutter open for a couple of minutes). At iso 3200, it gave an exposure of about 3 seconds. This is with an A 100mm f2.8 macro on the camera, set to f22 with a screw in metal cap attached. It should be as light thight as they come. Well, it has been going for about 8 minutes now, and I will shut it down. No sense wasting the batteries to death. William Robb Remember, the LX Gallery is coming up. Please see: http://pug.komkon.org/LX_Gallery/LX_Submit.html for more information. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
MZ-S in Canada
I was at Lens & Shutter in Vancouver BC yesterday & asked about the MZ-S, was told it would be here sometime in August. They also had no knowledge or information about the 24-90 zoom. David S. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE:Any Pentax 67 users out there?
My name is Chuck Riccardo - As I am nearing retirement age, I thought I would get into medium format cameras and travel a bit with them. I would love to hear from some of you that use this format, but all I seem to see on this newsgroup are things called MZ and the like, which I assume are 35mm cameras. Am I on the wrong newsgroup? Are there 67 users out there? -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark CassinoSent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 10:24 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: Filters for the SMCP-F Fisheye Zoom 17mm-28mm f/3.5-4.5True - my statement was a bit sweeping... you could also hold a 77mm up to it without any problem.-MCCAt 12:46 AM 6/10/01 +0200, you wrote: Well you can tape filters in place :-)Actually on closer inspection what looks like filter threads aren't... Pål - Original Message - From: Mark Cassino To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 12:04 AMSubject: Re: Filters for the SMCP-F Fisheye Zoom 17mm-28mm f/3.5-4.5You can't use filters at all with the 17-28mm fisheye zoom. the front has a little build in hood and no facility to attach a filter, there is no rear filter holder either. It's still a fun lens.- MCCAt 03:13 PM 6/9/01 -0600, you wrote: I was just wondering about the SMCP-F Fisheye Zoom 17mm-28mm f/3.5-4.5 and if there is filters that are made for this lens. I am pretty sure that it has no internel filters but perhaps small filters to attach to the back maybe? If any one who owns this lens or who is familiar with it can get back to me I would appreciate the extra information. - - - - - - - - - -Mark CassinoKalamazoo, MI[EMAIL PROTECTED]- - - - - - - - - - Photos:http://www.markcassino.com- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - - Photos: http://www.markcassino.com- - - - - - - - - -
Re: Some of my Grandfather Mountain stuf online
Mark Roberts wrote: > http://www.robertstech.com/g_father.htm > > A few select items from my trip to North Carolina. > > -- > Mark Roberts Nice photos, I especially like your "Accidental Abstract". It is certainly a lot better than any of my accidental images. David S. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax spare parts contacts
- Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: June 9, 2001 11:35 PM Subject: Pentax spare parts contacts > Hi Team, > > I need to purchase some spare parts for some of my older A series lenses. > The local Australian Pentax distributors have told me that the parts that I am > after are no longer available however I suspect that these comments are > more likely due to their reticence to enquire about the components. > > If anyone has a good contact for Pentax parts I would appreciate their > contact details. When I had the problem with my older A 50mm f/1.2, I was told the same thing. However, my repair guy was able to talk Pentac Canada into checking with Japan, where the parts were still available. That would be my best advice, if you can talk your distributor into calling the mothership. William Robb Remember, the LX Gallery is coming up. Please see: http://pug.komkon.org/LX_Gallery/LX_Submit.html for more information. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT:Back-packs for photo gear
I have the Lowepro Nature Trekker AW with a pair of small separate side bags attached to it for day hikes. It is a little too small for my preferences & will be replaced by the Photo Trekker AW when it is worn out. My normal day hike gear is food & water, clothing for almost any weather condition in mountainous BC Canada, Manfrotto 190 short tripod, LX & Z1p bodies, extra film, A* 300/2.8, FA 100/2.8 macro, FA 20-35/4.0, FA* 200 2.8, FA 28-70/4.0, A 2xL convertor, cable releases, extra film, compass & altimeter. My backpack is a Serratus brand internal frame model & I use clothing to protect my camera gear. I have yet to see a backpack that is designed for the photo enthusiast. IMO that type of backpack would only have to a partial section that is insulated with dividers for camera gear & larger conventional section for packing equipment. David S. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Filters for the SMCP-F Fisheye Zoom 17mm-28mm f/3.5-4.5
True - my statement was a bit sweeping... you could also hold a 77mm up to it without any problem. -MCC At 12:46 AM 6/10/01 +0200, you wrote: Well you can tape filters in place :-) Actually on closer inspection what looks like filter threads aren't... Pål - Original Message - From: Mark Cassino To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 12:04 AM Subject: Re: Filters for the SMCP-F Fisheye Zoom 17mm-28mm f/3.5-4.5 You can't use filters at all with the 17-28mm fisheye zoom. the front has a little build in hood and no facility to attach a filter, there is no rear filter holder either. It's still a fun lens. - MCC At 03:13 PM 6/9/01 -0600, you wrote: I was just wondering about the SMCP-F Fisheye Zoom 17mm-28mm f/3.5-4.5 and if there is filters that are made for this lens. I am pretty sure that it has no internel filters but perhaps small filters to attach to the back maybe? If any one who owns this lens or who is familiar with it can get back to me I would appreciate the extra information. - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - - Photos: http://www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - - Photos: http://www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - -
AF and Wide Angles
I recently picked up a Vivitar Series 1 19-35mm wide angle zoom, mostly for use on a trip later this month. I'll be using it with an LX, but when I tried it with a Pz-1p it was apparent that you could not manually focus at the wide end without some sort of aid. Using the AF sensor on the Pz-1p gave surprising results - the lens could be several feet (even several meters) off focus per the distance scales on it, but the AF sensor would show it as in focus. To test things further I put my only wide angle AF lens, the F 17-28 fisheye, on a Pz-1p and tested the AF. Standing inthe doorway of a room 15 feet long, and focusing on the far wall, the AF locked focus anywhere from 4 feet to infinity, based on the distance scales on the lens. (Most of the time focus was set at about 4 feet.) These results were duplicated with two other AF bodies - another Pz-1p and a Pz-70. On the flip side, the split image finder on the LX is remarkable accurate. Given the great DOF of these lenses, I don't know if it really matters (I've used the F17-28 on AF several times without any problem.) I'd be interested if newer generations of SAFOX or other camera brands are more accurate. - MCC - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - - Photos: http://www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
LX Metering
I thought I read somewhere that the LX could handle very long exposures with the OFT metering system. I've been fiddling around with mine and there seems to be a maximum duration for the exposure based on the ISO setting. At the slowest speed (ISO 6) the shutter will stay open for 7 or 8 minutes, and then shut. At the fastest (ISO 3200) it will stay open for a second or two and then shut. I tried testing it with lens cap in place and the front of the lens face down so no light could get in - but even with virtually no light these maximum times don't change. Somehow I had the idea that you could pop open the shutter in the dark and it would stay open for however long it took to get the correct exposure. Is my LX functioning correctly? (It _was_ serviced by Pentax just 6 months ago.) - MCC - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - - Photos: http://www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT:Back-packs for photo gear
I have the Lowe Pro Photo Trekker AW. I'm very happy with it. The limitations on what you can carry are pretty much determined by your level of physical fitness rather than the pack: It can probably hold more than you want to haul around with you. At Grandfather Mountain I had a PZ-1p, MX and 645 camera bodies. 45, 75 and 200mm lenses for the 645, plus 20, 24, 50, 100 and 300 (f2.8) for the 35mm and an assortment of filters, film and accessories. Plus a Manfrotto 3021 tripod with ballhead strapped to the outside. (The day after I returned from the Grandfather trip I went out running and without all that weight on my back I felt as if someone had lowered the earth's gravity!) There ane plenty of internal dividers which are easily removed or changed. Protection is very good and the pack is sized to airline carry-on standards. The only downside is the inconvenience of taking the pack off every time you want to make an equipment change. -- Mark Roberts - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The Beatles and an Asahi Pentax camera
Your right about product placement in Movies, Tom, and that may in fact have been the case here. But if it is, they kept the cameras, or bought their own, because I've seen lots of stills of them wandering around with Pentaxes around their necks. I'm also not so sure that Pentax would have had that sophisticated marketing dept back in '63 or '64. regards, frank Tom Rittenhouse wrote: > There is often a advertising deal made by producers with > vendors. That is why so often everyone in a movie is driving > the same brand of car. The auto maker has cut a deal with > the producers. One such deal that I remember is a comedy of > Coca Cola trying to break into the Soviet market. In the > vary last scene the lead in the story gets a soda from a > machine and holds it up showing that it is a Pepssi Cola. I > understand that Pepsi paid a million bucks to have that > scene in the movie. > --Tom > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Att:Canadians Part Deux
Hey, blow your own horn, David! Feels great, don't it? Congrats. Even though I'm not much of a horsey-guy, I'll definitely look for that mag, and check it out. And on a Spotmatic no less! :-) regards, frank David J Brooks wrote: > Hi Group.If anyone spots a copy of Horse Sport Magazine on the news rack(July Issue) > take a look in the section called"In the Ribbons" and check the photo credit next to >a > grey large pony going over a green jump(Its me). > The photo was taken indoor this spring with good light(Kodak Max 800) coming from a >large > amount of skylights but the photo was touched up a bit by the editor to improve the >contrast a > bit.(I used the old standby SP 500). > Because I attend a large number of horse shows in my area,I have been asked to submit > photos of the first and second place riders(if i can do an educated quess to who >they might > be) for possible use in this section. > > Sorry for the horn blowing but I'm quite happy today. > > Dave > > Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
MZ-S is in NYC
In a message dated 6/6/01 5:48:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 10:35:42 -0600 From: "Lewis, Gerald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: MZ-S US - who sells them B&H is listing the MZ-S date back body in black for 999.95 >> Adorama has them for $875 (USA $) Call 1-212-741-0401; ext 253 ask for Tobias. Tell him Burt sent you. PS: I don't work for Adorama; I'm a longtime customer. Burt NYC USA - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Some of my Grandfather Mountain stuf online
Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The pre-dawn light picture photo has no special tricks at all, I'm afraid, much >as I'd like to claim some secret technique. Pentax MX with Sigma 300/2.8 Oops. I was thinking of the wrong photo. The pre-dawn light shot was taken with the SMC-A20/2.8 (a little different from a 300mm!) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Some of my Grandfather Mountain stuf online
"David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi Mark.Great pictures.It looks like a lovely spot to visit.I have a ??? for you(and >other >pdmlers).I often try to take shots like your "pre dawn light" etc but with limited >success. >Do you use any filters/faster film etc.?Some times I think I wait to long and the sun >may be a >bit to strong.I have UV filters on my lenses only. It is indeed a wonderful spot to visit. The pre-dawn light picture photo has no special tricks at all, I'm afraid, much as I'd like to claim some secret technique. Pentax MX with Sigma 300/2.8 and Kodak E100SW (pushed 1 stop). Just exposed like the center-weighted meter told me to! I did burn in the grass in the lower left hand corner a little in Photoshop, but not really very much. - Mark Roberts - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: June Gallery Comments
>" Old and New " by Rebecca Lane, USA > A wonderful panorama. Good cropping. > Perhaps a bit more off the left, to 1/2 way between > the arches. Thanks, I probably should not have cropped it so much and left it more intact. If I ever get the time I will put the original up somewhere. Thanks again Rebecca NetZero Platinum No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://www.netzero.net - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PUG Commentary: Frank Theriault
Thanks, Paul, I visit my Mother in Mahone Bay, Nova Scotia two or three times per year, and I walk by that house dozens of times per visit, often with my camera around my neck, but I never took it's photo until last year. Just something about the light and shadows that day appealled to me. I'm especially glad therefore, that you noticed and commented positively on lighting of that shot I don't take a lot of architectural shots, so I'm not very practised or good at it. Your positive feedback is therefore much appreciated. Which gets me to thinking that this is exactly why I think that these PUG commentaries are so valuable. There were so many amazing submissions this month, that a shot like mine is not going to get noticed as someone's "favourite of the month". Yet (with the greatest of humility), I don't think my shot is so glaringly awful that it will garner notice for that reason. So it's nice that I get some criticism regarding an image that would otherwise likely be lost in the shuffle. Which further reminds me that I'd better get off my ass and do my critiques! Thanks again, Paul. frank PAUL STENQUIST wrote: > Frank Theriault, "Gingerbread" > I'm a big fan of Victorian architecture, and Frank's rendering of > gingerbread detail invokes a warm and fuzzy feeling. I'd love to pull up > a chair on that porch and spend an afternoon sipping iced tea -- or, > better yet, a good single malt. From a technical perspective, I like the > balance of light and shadow. The little bit of light that spills over > into the shadowed portion of the shot is a nice touch. The framing > appears to be a good choice in terms of illustrating the gingerbread > detail without turning the shot into just another picture of a house. > Lens choice seems to be just right. The slightly wider than normal 35 > gives the shot a sense of expansiveness without excessive distortion. > Nice work. > Paul Stenquist > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Some of my Grandfather Mountain stuf online
Mark, Nice photos! Looks like you had some good opportunities. Seeing the birds, sunrise, and flower photos makes me wish I had been there. Regards, Bob S. << Subject: Some of my Grandfather Mountain stuf online http://www.robertstech.com/g_father.htm A few select items from my trip to North Carolina. -- Mark Roberts >> - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Recommendations for Light/Flash Meters
I use a Minolta Flashmeter III. Flash, ambient, corded, non-corded, EV or f-stop readout. Around $300US when I bought it. Doug At 1:10 PM +08006/10/01, Rapture brandished a favorite crayon and scribbled: >Hi Friends, > >I would like to hear recommendations from you guys out there on the most suitable >light/flash meter for me. > >I have been using the MZ-7 for about a year and would be upgrading in a month or two >with the MZ-S. >I mainly do outdoor landscape and portrait shots and occasion still lifes. I do both >Slides and B & W. >I sometimes encounter harsh weather conditions in country i am in and the weather >hasnt been good >recently. So i decided to get one lightmeter that can last me for years to come. > >I am not a professional but a serious amateur. There is also a possibility of going >further into it. >I travel a lot and probably need a light meter. Of course there are reviews and >places where i can >get more information on light meters but i just need to hear comments from you guys >before i commit, >why? because this list is one of the best i have seen around. > >if there is need for me to provide more information for you to comment upon, please >let me know. > >Cheers, >Jason Kiew -- Douglas Forrest Brewer Ashwood Lake Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alphoto.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S gripes
Some random thoughts on why Pentax placed the exposure bar oriented vertically in the MZ-S. 1. When you think of something being "over or under" exposed you're naturally thinking vertically. 2. The exposure bar in the PZ-1p is placed vertically along the right side of the image in the view finder (so Pentax is following recent tradition). Personally, I prefer the vertical display. I shoot B&W exclusively using the Hyper Manual mode with Spot metering and a modified Zone System approach. To me the vertical display seems natural. Alexander Grigolia - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Some of my Grandfather Mountain stuf online
Hi Mark.Great pictures.It looks like a lovely spot to visit.I have a ??? for you(and other pdmlers).I often try to take shots like your "pre dawn light" etc but with limited success. Do you use any filters/faster film etc.?Some times I think I wait to long and the sun may be a bit to strong.I have UV filters on my lenses only. Dave Begin Original Message From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 09:25:42 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Some of my Grandfather Mountain stuf online http://www.robertstech.com/g_father.htm A few select items from my trip to North Carolina. -- Mark Roberts - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT:Back-packs for photo gear
Hi Rob, I have the LowePro S&F Rover Lite. Although we don't have bush over here to quite the extent that you guys do it is useful for short trips. It has a big brother version which is waterproof. They both have excellent tripod provision. It's more of a photo day pack than anything else. You couldn't get a tent or sleeping bag into it, for example, but don't you have camel trains for that sort of equipment?? :o) --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sunday, June 10, 2001, 6:31:18 AM, you wrote: > Hi Team, > I am interested in looking at some photo oriented back-packs to use for both > short or extended treks into bush. I need it to be weather proof and have > provisions for easily attaching a tripod. > I have a brochure on the LowePro AW series packs they seem to fit the bill > however I would be glad to hear from listers with experience and other > suggestions. > Cheers, > Rob Studdert > HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA > Tel +61-2-9554-4110 > UTC(GMT) +10 Hours > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
