Re: smc 18/3.5

2002-02-13 Thread Camdir

In a message dated 13/02/02 12:08:28 GMT Standard Time, Antti writes:

 Played with my new toy again :-)
 
 This lens seems to be extremely flare resistant.. compared to
 the smc 15mm (which ain't bad either).
  

Nice one, Cyril. Another stealth wide angle. 

Natch, we will have a couple of 20mm A for stock on the next delivery. 

Kind regards

Peter
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Re: A macro lighting question

2002-02-13 Thread Bojidar Dimitrov

Hi Flavio,

 Moreover I can't imagine a way to mount it on a homemade bracket
 so as to point it directly on the subject.

Well, the AF280T can be tilted _down_ 15 degrees, and that might do the
trick.  Plus it has minimum TTL range of only 25 cm.

Hope this helps,
Boz
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Re: Am I Really a Dinosaur?

2002-02-13 Thread Peter Alling

That's just what keeps me from buying another digital.  New digi-cameras 
are orders
of magnitude better than the one I bought 2 years ago, yet still not as 
efficient
at their purpose than my 25 year old film camera.

At 12:37 PM 2/13/2002 -0500, Graywolf wrote:
The only improvements left to make on cameras are the gimmicks. Once a
product is fully developed that is all that they can do to  get consumers to
upgrade. Consider, what real picture taking improvement is there in a Leica
M6 over an M3? None whatsoever in my opinion. So why trade your M3 for an
M6?

On the other hand what improvement is there between last years digital and
this years (any brand), an order of magnitude? That sells new digitals to
consumers even if they already have one that is only a couple of years old.

Ciao,
Graywolf



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Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: Am I Really a Dinosaur?


  Hi Bill ...
 
  While I agree that film will probably be around, my biggest concern is
  that choices will be reduced further, and that camera gear will continue
  sliding into a plastic morass filled with gimmicks and cheap zoom
  lenses, and that strong, repairable, dependable cameras may slowly be
  disappearing.  If, as the article says, manufacturers like stop
  producing film cameras, that slippery slope into the abyss will then be
  greased.
 
 
  William Robb wrote:
 
   Personally, I think film will be around for a long time yet.
   Like the pundits of previous eras proclaiming the death of
   theater when motion pictures were introduced, or the end of
   radio when television became commonplace, the doomsayers of film
   are also mistaken.
   Of course, like all zealots, they will not see the error of
   their thoughts, but will continue to bang their little gongs,
   always saying that the end near.
   And, like zealots from times previous, they will continue to
   trot out their silly little arguements and rationalizations,
   while the rest of the world quietly goes on shooting film and
   enjoying the creative process of producing true photographic
   images.
 
  --
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Re[4]: Am I Really a Dinosaur?

2002-02-13 Thread Bruce Dayton

It's not just the cost to the consumer, it is the cost to do business.
When most of the labs/minilabs give up on film, then we might see a
landslide changeover - which in turn will cause the manufacturers
(films, equipment, chemistry, etc) to re-evaluate the cost of doing
business on their part and so on...


Bruce Dayton



Wednesday, February 13, 2002, 9:45:47 AM, you wrote:

TR Aw, why would you think that? (Here in Charlotte it costs $5 a sheet to get
TR 4x5 BW film processed)

TR Ciao,
TR Graywolf
TR 


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TR From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TR To: Stephen Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TR Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:23 PM
TR Subject: Re[2]: Am I Really a Dinosaur?


 I am truly hoping that film doesn't die out quickly.  My biggest fear
 is that inexpensive processing (color) will go away first, which will
 hasten the move to digital.

 It is interesting to note that I have been contemplating purchasing a
 PS for my daughter to take on summer camp and I obviously looked at
 digitals.  Because of funny things like battery consumption (lack of
 recharge locations and time), kids wanting to play with the digital
 and storage card issues, I have come to the conclusion that a simple
 35mm PS is far more economical and far more useful for her.  This
 coming from me with a Coolpix 990 and 2500 shots on it.

 If the rest of the consumers really take a good, hard look, perhaps
 they too, will come to the same conclusion that I have.  Long live
 film!


 Bruce Dayton



 Wednesday, February 13, 2002, 8:35:12 AM, you wrote:

 SM Mark Roberts wrote:

  I think you're right. I *hope* you're right.
 
  Still I can't help but think of those who predicted the death of
TR super-8
  film when video was introduced...

 SM Still, I can't help thinking about the transition from
 SM vinyl LPs to CDs. Sure seemed like a whole bunch of
 SM consumer electronics manufacturers got together and
 SM said, Let's put this thing out there with an inferior
 SM sampling rate, and make everybody repurchase their entire
 SM music collections.

 SM Of course, vinyl (and the equipment to play it) still can be
 SM purchsed -- dearly -- from small, specialty, purist manufacturers.

 SM Flame-suited, ducking and running...

 SM Stephen
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Pentax 50mm f/1.4

2002-02-13 Thread Chris Murray

Is $350/Canadian a good price for the AF 50/1.4 new? What about $230 for a
used version? I want a fast prime lens, the 35-80 that came with my mz-50
seems a little lacking in low light :)

Thanks

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Re: Z-1p focusing screens on other bodies?

2002-02-13 Thread Frantisek Vlcek

Hi Minihane, it is relatively easy. No qualified technician is needed
at all! AFAIK Pz1p screen should fit into all older pentaxes (but not
all vice versa, LX and MX screens are bigger than the newer ones so
won't fit into AF bodies).

For MZ5n, MZ-M, Super-A,... , the screen is the same, the holding
frame is the same, it IIRC drops down in same way, only is not hold by
spring tab but by few screws, which you unscrew. There are few people
here who did it to Mz-5n, ask them. Also, this should work for
Super-A, which would be really improved by MZ-M's screen.

Frantisek
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Re: Am I Really a Dinosaur?

2002-02-13 Thread Mark Roberts

William Robb wrote:

If digital becomes both an economiclly viable alternative, and
more importantly, a more convenient way to get prints, then it
would have a good chance to supplant consumer film use.

It's becomming more economically viable every day. Remember when compact
disc players cost $1000.00 (in 1983 dollars)?

It's already becoming as convenient or more convenient than film for getting
prints. Most places than do film prints around here will also do prints
from digital memory cards. And I'm in Rochester, NY, home of Kodak. Most
of the Kodak employees I know have switched to digital cameras (the fools!)

EPA regulations, now that scares me.

That's part of the economically viable alternative part of the equation.
The first part is (of course) digital getting cheaper. The second part is
film getting more expensive and EPA regs will be one driving factor here.
Another is the price of minilabs: Printing from memory cards is a lot less
expensive than developing negatives or slides as well as making prints.
This is a big savings for a photofinisher buying equipment. I expect a lot
fewer film minilabs to be sold from now on; old ones will be repaired and
kept in service and new purchases will go largely to digital machines.

As far as the general public is concerned, digital is *already*:
Faster
Cooler
More fun
More versatile
Cheaper once you've paid for the camera (*over*paid, in my personal view,
but that's me)

Here's what I think is bizarre, though: As film photography becomes more
of a niche of photography as a whole, those who use film rather than (or
in addition to) digital will generally be more the specialist/enthusiast
type. Yet as this transition is taking place, the film manufacturers are
phasing out their specialty films like Kodak Gold 25 and concentrating on
the mass market stuff like Kodak Max 400. Short term thinking at its finest:
the films being phased out are the ones with the greatest appeal to those
who'll be the only ones using film in the long run.

I'm a film lover. I don't *own* a digital camera. But I can read the writing
on the wall.



-- 
Mark Roberts
www.robertstech.com
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Re: Pentax 50mm f/1.4

2002-02-13 Thread Philip Courtay

Chris
I bought a FA 50 f1.4 in mint condition US$100 recently.
I do not know the current rate of CAN$ to US$ but I do not believe it is 2 
to 1.
I think that the new price is about $189.00
It is a great lens, sharp and fast
Good luck
Philippe


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Subject: Pentax 50mm f/1.4
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 11:00:23 -0800 (PST)

Is $350/Canadian a good price for the AF 50/1.4 new? What about $230 for a
used version? I want a fast prime lens, the 35-80 that came with my mz-50
seems a little lacking in low light :)

Thanks

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Re: Re: Pentax 50mm f/1.4

2002-02-13 Thread David Brooks

At last check,$100.00 US d = $160.00 Can d approx.

Dave

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From: Philip Courtay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 20:28:58 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pentax 50mm f/1.4


Chris
I bought a FA 50 f1.4 in mint condition US$100 recently.
I do not know the current rate of CAN$ to US$ but I do not believe it 
is 2 
to 1.
I think that the new price is about $189.00
It is a great lens, sharp and fast
Good luck
Philippe


From: Chris Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Pentax 50mm f/1.4
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 11:00:23 -0800 (PST)

Is $350/Canadian a good price for the AF 50/1.4 new? What about $230 
for a
used version? I want a fast prime lens, the 35-80 that came with my 
mz-50
seems a little lacking in low light :)

Thanks

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Re: Variable Contrast Filters for Beseler

2002-02-13 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Wednesday, February 13, 2002, at 12:21  PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

  Would I need one set of filters for Ilford
 VC paper, another for Agfa, a third for Kodak, etc.?

Shel, I've found that the Kodak and Agfa sets are very similar.  The 
Ilford set is different above 2 1/2.  I've never had any trouble using 
an Ilford set with Agfa papers, but my Agfa filters and Ilford 
Multicontrast Warmtone fibre were a bad mix: everything seemed quite 
flat at 2 and below, but 3 and up gave me very contrasty results, with 
no middle ground to be found.

Personally, I like the thickness and packaging of the Agfa set better (a 
book with pages that are individual pockets for the filters), but if you 
regularly work with Ilford papers, Ilford's filters are probably the 
best choice.  Also, I believe Ilford's filters are the least expensive, 
which never hurts.

-Aaron
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OT: Fujichrome Trebi?

2002-02-13 Thread Rob Geraghty

Hi Folks,

I have discovered a new Fujichrome slide film in Japan called Trebi.  Does
anyone know what it is intended for?  It is a daylight film and the RMS
rating indicated that the grain is not as fine as Provia 100F.

Please reply directly if possible as I can't stay online long enough  to
read all the digest messages.

Thanks!

Rob


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