RE: The "Kodak talk"
> So Tom's photo finisher has the "Portra" talk with him, Could someone please recap the "portra talk" for me? Because I missed that thread, and I recently got some Portra developed, and half of the film was ruined! In random parts of the film, it looks like the chemicals got congealed and hardened. It was a cheapie lab (Target) and I might have thought it was them, but when I went to pick up the pictures the girl asked me if the film was old, and then she showed me the negatives. I've had two other rolls developed there with no problem. Is there a chance it could be the lab? I hope it's not the Portra because this was my second roll of Portra VC and I really like it, but this is ridiculous. --Amita - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Majordomo results
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Spotmatic - help needed....
Hi, Sometime ago I bought a very old Spotmatic for cheap with some problems. I had the problems fixed and it works perfectly now. I'm intrigued by some of it's details and wonder if someone could help me determine the age of the camera. I guess it's an early one (product nº231). But I couldn't find more precise information about it. It's meter switch is narrower that the later, more common kind and the arrow pointing up is engraved on the camera rather than on the switch. It doesn't look like something adapted, IMHO. Besides that, the battery chamber (is this the correct name) is made entirely of metal (I understand the later ones are not like this) which I'm not sure was not adapted to the camera. What I would like to know is: 1) Is it really an early one (product nº231)? 2) If so, are these details --- meter switch and battery chamber --- correct? 3) Accordingly to the AOHC, product nº231 was built from 7/1964 until 1965, but it doesn't say which month it's production ceased (It also states that product nº23102 was built from 1965, without further detail). Can someone at least say if production stopped in the first or second semester of that year? 4) It's serial nº is 1160700. Could it be the 700th Spotmatic built? Thanks in advance for sharing your expertise. Eduardo. -Mensagem original- De: David A. Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Data: Sexta-feira, 1 de Março de 2002 00:22 Assunto: Re: Re: The most under-rated Pentax body >David Brooks wrote: > >> All those who new that Aaron would say that >> raise their hands > > Someone ought to buy Aaron an Auto 110 ;) > >Cheers, >- Dave > >http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ (out of date) >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: dental macro and macro lens
At 04:02 PM 2/28/02 -0500, you wrote: > >> What is the difference between a dental macro and macro lens ? > > > The dental version has markings on the barrel that tell you the > > magnification ratios when the lens is used in combination with one of > > the two close-up lenses tat make up the Dental closeup set. > >I'm tempted to add that dental macro images have more "bite", but I >don't quite have the nerve... I think you deserve a plaque for that one. Gary J. Sibio - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 50mm F1.7 - M
I have one. Regards, Bob... "Let us contemplate our forefathers, and posterity, and resolve to maintain the rights bequeathed to us from the former, for the sake of the latter. The necessity of the times, more than ever, calls for our utmost circumspection, deliberation, fortitude, and perseverance. Let us remember that 'if we suffer tamely a lawless attack upon our liberty, we encourage it, and involve others in our doom.' It is a very serious consideration that millions yet unborn may be the miserable sharers of the event." - Samuel Adams, 1771 From: "T Rittenhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I've got one you can have for a hundred bucks. Heck, I let you have it for > $75. I've got another with a damaged, but still usable filter ring I will > let you have for half that. > > From: Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Actually, it is an excellent lens. > > > > From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > On 1 Mar 2002 at 0:05, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > > > > > > > is this absurd or what? > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1333698770 > > > > > > > > This buyer isnt very smart is he? > > > > > > But this speedy lens is the perfect companion for you Pentax camera. It > is > > compact for easy wielding, yet is of the utmost quality. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: 50mm F1.7 - M
On 1 Mar 2002 at 0:27, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1333698770 > > But this speedy lens is the perfect companion for you Pentax > > camera. It is compact for easy wielding, yet is of the utmost > > quality. > > > > tv > Yes, but is it better than the 50mm F1.4 which is faster > and can be bought for less money?? It's compactness and versatility make it suitable for almost all picture-taking needs. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 50mm F1.7 - M
I've got one you can have for a hundred bucks. Heck, I let you have it for $75. I've got another with a damaged, but still usable filter ring I will let you have for half that. Ciao, Graywolf - Original Message - From: Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 12:17 AM Subject: Re: 50mm F1.7 - M > Actually, it is an excellent lens. > > Regards, > Bob... > > "Let us contemplate our forefathers, and posterity, > and resolve to maintain the rights bequeathed to us > from the former, for the sake of the latter. > The necessity of the times, more than ever, calls > for our utmost circumspection, deliberation, fortitude, > and perseverance. Let us remember that 'if we > suffer tamely a lawless attack upon our liberty, > we encourage it, and involve others in our doom.' > It is a very serious consideration that millions yet > unborn may be the miserable sharers of the event." > - Samuel Adams, 1771 > > From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > On 1 Mar 2002 at 0:05, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > > > > > is this absurd or what? > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1333698770 > > > > > > This buyer isnt very smart is he? > > > > But this speedy lens is the perfect companion for you Pentax camera. It is > compact for easy wielding, yet is of the utmost quality. > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: 6x7 Brotherhood: It's arrived!
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David A. Mann > Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 12:25 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: 6x7 Brotherhood: It's arrived! > > > Yes, my nice "new" 6x7 Takumar 300mm f/4 lens arrived from Auckland > today. I have one of these and from my tests it's a truly excellent lens. I dont understand why they came out with a more expensive ED version, if it's signifigantly better, it must be out of this world. JCO - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: 50mm F1.7 - M
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of tom > Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 12:16 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: 50mm F1.7 - M > > > On 1 Mar 2002 at 0:05, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > > > is this absurd or what? > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1333698770 > > > > This buyer isnt very smart is he? > > But this speedy lens is the perfect companion for you Pentax > camera. It is compact for easy wielding, yet is of the utmost quality. > > tv Yes, but is it better than the 50mm F1.4 which is faster and can be bought for less money?? JCO - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 50mm F1.7 - M
Actually, it is an excellent lens. Regards, Bob... "Let us contemplate our forefathers, and posterity, and resolve to maintain the rights bequeathed to us from the former, for the sake of the latter. The necessity of the times, more than ever, calls for our utmost circumspection, deliberation, fortitude, and perseverance. Let us remember that 'if we suffer tamely a lawless attack upon our liberty, we encourage it, and involve others in our doom.' It is a very serious consideration that millions yet unborn may be the miserable sharers of the event." - Samuel Adams, 1771 From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On 1 Mar 2002 at 0:05, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > > > is this absurd or what? > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1333698770 > > > > This buyer isnt very smart is he? > > But this speedy lens is the perfect companion for you Pentax camera. It is compact for easy wielding, yet is of the utmost quality. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
6x7 Brotherhood: It's arrived!
Yes, my nice "new" 6x7 Takumar 300mm f/4 lens arrived from Auckland today. The courier, showing a serious lack of intelligence, simply left the NZ$1600 (US$670) package in the mailbox, visible to any passerby, despite someone being home all day. At least they got the address right. This lens is in *great* condition. There is a small dent in the built-in hood and the bayonet lens cap doesn't fit very securely, but otherwise this lens only shows minor signs of use. Glass is clean and optics only have a few bits of dust on the outer elements, which is easily brushed off. Serial number is 8474xxx. It's a "Super Multi-Coated Takumar". The focussing is really accurate and really smooth, but I would prefer a slightly less-damped feel. The barrel turns almost a full revolution from one end to the other. I'm really annoyed that despite having fine sunny weather for most of the day, the wind picked up and the clouds came over during the afternoon so I probably won't get to shoot with it this evening. I might load up the expired EGP 400 and go for a walk after dinner. Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ (out of date) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Testing the 135-600 6.7 SMCT
Wow! Great sharpness and definition on those field lights. Looks like you've landed a real winner. Do you mind my asking what you paid? Paul "J. C. O'Connell" wrote: > Got the SMC Takumar Zoom 135-600 6.7 from > Japan this week. I bought it mostly > to fill out my screwmount lens collection > but couldnt wait to try it out. > > First of all the F6.7 aperture makes it > tough to focus at 135mm but its easy enough > to focus at 600 and then just zoom out > if needed. > > Best feature of this lens is the wide > zoom range of nearly 4.5 to 1. Nikon and > Canon never made a lens like this. WIMPS. > Another really useful thing is that it > focuses down to only 20 feet even at 600mm. > This allows for some really tight framing > which probably be great for birding. There > is a super closeup attachment lens that > allows it to focus to 10 feet but I didnt > try it yet. > > I havent shot enough apertures and distances > yet to get a good handle on the performance > but I can say one thing: This lens at 600mm > is AWESOME. I did not expect this at all, > usually telezooms get softer at the long end. > This one seems just as good maybe even better > at 600! > > Here a test shot of some field lights about 75 yards > away from camera using 600mm & f11: > > Full frame > http://www.gate.net/~hifisapi/600mmlights1.jpg > > cropped blowup > http://www.gate.net/~hifisapi/600mmlights2.jpg > > I'm gonna try some color with it this weekend > if the weather clears up. I'm delighted with > the results so far. I never expected a 25 year > old zoom to be anywhere near this good. I am > psyched up about tele-photography again and this > is a perfect compliment to my P67 setup which > doesnt cover the long end very well. > JCO > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: The most under-rated Pentax body
The K1000 was, to a large degree, a Spotmatic with a bayonet mount. It was made for over 20 years, very reliable, cheap and a favorite with photography instructors. It was a great "first camera". This is why so many were sold. If anything, it was too sucessful, because it gave Pentax the reputation of making entry level cameras. The ME and ME Super were also very popular, but a little too cute for their own good. A lot of people thout that when they got serious about photography, and wanted a "serious" camera they had to get a different brand. Pentax's serious cameras were somewhat overlooked. Pentax did fine until the P&S, AF cameras came out. People who wanted decent, sharp, properly exposed, exposed, low effort pictures didn't have to bother with SLR's or fix lens rangefinders any more. (The equivalent of today's P&S was Kodak's Instamatic cameras which were little more than simple box cameras with drop in film loading.) It took very little time for fixed lens rangefinders and many SLR brands to dissapear. My personal vote for most under-rated Pentax is the Program Plus. Very nice camera, but sells for around the same price as the MG on eBay. --- Alan Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > K1000 is a simple and reliable camera, that's it! It's the bottom of the > line model. What made it so famous was the fact it was the last Pentax > mechanical body ever produced in the AF era. If K1000 was consider anything > special, then what about FM2n, FM3A, S2 or OM3Ti? Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! http://greetings.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Mir 20/3.5 now in K mount?
http://cgi.ebay.de/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1336187925 This seller is not the same one selling the Peleng 8/3.5 in K mount http://cgi.ebay.de/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1335775939 Again I must ask: Do you think it (the Mir) is a real K mount? I don't expect autoaperture, but boy, if it's a K mount, it's a great buy for someone who just doesn't want to fuss with an adapter. Paul Franklin Stregevsky 13 Selby Court Poolesville, Maryland 20837-2410 [EMAIL PROTECTED] H (301) 349-5243 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Testing the 135-600 6.7 SMCT
Got the SMC Takumar Zoom 135-600 6.7 from Japan this week. I bought it mostly to fill out my screwmount lens collection but couldnt wait to try it out. First of all the F6.7 aperture makes it tough to focus at 135mm but its easy enough to focus at 600 and then just zoom out if needed. Best feature of this lens is the wide zoom range of nearly 4.5 to 1. Nikon and Canon never made a lens like this. WIMPS. Another really useful thing is that it focuses down to only 20 feet even at 600mm. This allows for some really tight framing which probably be great for birding. There is a super closeup attachment lens that allows it to focus to 10 feet but I didnt try it yet. I havent shot enough apertures and distances yet to get a good handle on the performance but I can say one thing: This lens at 600mm is AWESOME. I did not expect this at all, usually telezooms get softer at the long end. This one seems just as good maybe even better at 600! Here a test shot of some field lights about 75 yards away from camera using 600mm & f11: Full frame http://www.gate.net/~hifisapi/600mmlights1.jpg cropped blowup http://www.gate.net/~hifisapi/600mmlights2.jpg I'm gonna try some color with it this weekend if the weather clears up. I'm delighted with the results so far. I never expected a 25 year old zoom to be anywhere near this good. I am psyched up about tele-photography again and this is a perfect compliment to my P67 setup which doesnt cover the long end very well. JCO - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: How shall we describe ourselves?
On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 05:51:10PM -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > Our religion is Pentecostal; might need a pentaxis of evil then. Maybe need to appoint a pope penta X as well since the population of Patican is similar :) > Unit of weight is Pentagrams; > Pentangle is the favorite folk group; > Volvo Penta marine engines power our boats > > > Paul Stenquist wrote: > > > > And of course, I work for Pentamark. (Pentamark Worldwide, an Omnicom > > company) > > > > Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > > > > > Our land: Pentaxia > > > Our selves: Pentaxians > > >(or Pentaxer for the Teutonic membership) > > > Our language: Penta > > > Our disease: Pentaxitis > > > Our men: Pentamen > > > Our women:Pentawow > > > Our children: Pentikes > > > Our cars: Pentacedes > > > Our towns:Pentavilles > > > Our cities: Pentropolis > > > > > > Our suppliers:Angels > > > Suppliers of competitive brands: Pimps > > > > > > :) > > > > > > * > > > "Get over it." > > > Dr. Laura > > > > > > --- > > > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > > - > > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > -- > Shel Belinkoff > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ > "If you are a bad technician, it doesn't > matter how big your negs are." - PDML member > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: How shall we describe ourselves?
Do I sense some pent up frustrations? What do we call it when it all ends? Pentagon? ppro > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 8:51 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: How shall we describe ourselves? > > > > Our religion is Pentecostal; > Unit of weight is Pentagrams; > Pentangle is the favorite folk group; > Volvo Penta marine engines power our boats > > > Paul Stenquist wrote: > > > > And of course, I work for Pentamark. (Pentamark Worldwide, an Omnicom > > company) > > > > Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > > > > > Our land: Pentaxia > > > Our selves: Pentaxians > > >(or Pentaxer for the Teutonic membership) > > > Our language: Penta > > > Our disease: Pentaxitis > > > Our men: Pentamen > > > Our women:Pentawow > > > Our children: Pentikes > > > Our cars: Pentacedes > > > Our towns:Pentavilles > > > Our cities: Pentropolis > > > > > > Our suppliers:Angels > > > Suppliers of competitive brands: Pimps > > > > > > :) > > > > > > * > > > "Get over it." > > > Dr. Laura > > > > > > --- > > > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > > - > > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > -- > Shel Belinkoff > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ > "If you are a bad technician, it doesn't > matter how big your negs are." - PDML member > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: The "Kodak talk"
I had a similar problem with a roll of film from my wife's (Pentax) P&S - showed as small flecks on the negatives in just two or three frames. Initially I blamed the lab, but we eventually agreed it couldn't be them. John Coyle Brisbane, Australia On Thursday, February 28, 2002 11:15 PM, Ed Mathews [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > So Tom's photo finisher has the "Portra" talk with him, and last night > my finisher has the "Kodak talk" with me. She says that they've been > having all kinds of problems with Kodak films lately, in that Kodak is > having a problem with their felt in their canisters. So people are > getting these hairs and small dust blotches on their negatives because > the felt is breaking away and blocking the light on a negative every now > and then. She said she called Kodak, and they admitted to having the > problem. That reminded me that I've seen it a couple times on T-Max > I've developed lately. Anybody else seen or heard of this? > > Thanks, > Ed - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: How to unsubscribe?
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RE: Darkroom operational!
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 8:24 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Darkroom operational! > > > Oh ... when you said "for all my darkroom use" I thought you meant for > ALL your darkroom use. > Yeah I should have said all my PROCESSING use except for enlarger control. Both in and out of the darkroom. I cant recommend the radioshack timer enuff, its really handy. JCO - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: The most under-rated Pentax body
The K1000 is a great camera, but a) not as good as the KX and K2(*), and b) gets more press than the other two. Whether it is under-rated or not (and I don't think it is), it cannot be the _most_ under-rated because of the comparison to the KX at least. I'm reconsidering my comments on the H1a, H2, H3, by the way. Yeah, there's evidence that they are quite well appreciated by some of us here, they're still often forgotten. Say "screwmount Pentax" and many folks will know the Spotmatics but relatively few think of the "PSPs" (Pre-Spotmatic Pentaxes -- I don't remember which of us came up with that abbrev. but I can't claim credit for it). Go hunting for info on the H3/S3 on the web and see how much there is. I can't comment on some of the other bodies folks have mentioned, never having played with them, but I'm pretty sure the K1000 can be ruled out objectively, and from where I'm sitting, the K2, KX, and H2/H3/H1a (S2/S3/S1a) look like reasonable candidates for "most under-rated" unless they're trumped by one of the ones I don't have firsthand knowledge of. -- Glenn (*) The KX and K1000 are pretty much the same camera except for the presence/absence of MLU, DOF Preview, and self-timer, so that's very much an apples-to-apples comparison. The K1000 has cult status and is well known by non-Pentax users; the KX does not (and is, in my personal experience, frequently mistaken for a K1000 by passers-by who used one long ago). The KX has the same ruggedness, simplicity, and ergonomics of the K1000 plus additional features and doesn't get as much press: QED. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: How shall we describe ourselves?
Our religion is Pentecostal; Unit of weight is Pentagrams; Pentangle is the favorite folk group; Volvo Penta marine engines power our boats Paul Stenquist wrote: > > And of course, I work for Pentamark. (Pentamark Worldwide, an Omnicom > company) > > Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > > > Our land: Pentaxia > > Our selves: Pentaxians > >(or Pentaxer for the Teutonic membership) > > Our language: Penta > > Our disease: Pentaxitis > > Our men: Pentamen > > Our women:Pentawow > > Our children: Pentikes > > Our cars: Pentacedes > > Our towns:Pentavilles > > Our cities: Pentropolis > > > > Our suppliers:Angels > > Suppliers of competitive brands: Pimps > > > > :) > > > > * > > "Get over it." > > Dr. Laura > > > > --- > > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ "If you are a bad technician, it doesn't matter how big your negs are." - PDML member - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The most under-rated Pentax body
Hi, Tom, Were you thinking of coming? I didn't know that. Oh well, too bad. Maybe next time... regards, frank tom wrote: > > > BTW, I can't make it to Toronto Saturday, I have to help a friend move. > > Damn, that would have been fun. > -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: How shall we describe ourselves?
And of course, I work for Pentamark. (Pentamark Worldwide, an Omnicom company) Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > Our land: Pentaxia > Our selves: Pentaxians >(or Pentaxer for the Teutonic membership) > Our language: Penta > Our disease: Pentaxitis > Our men: Pentamen > Our women:Pentawow > Our children: Pentikes > Our cars: Pentacedes > Our towns:Pentavilles > Our cities: Pentropolis > > Our suppliers:Angels > Suppliers of competitive brands: Pimps > > :) > > * > "Get over it." > Dr. Laura > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: How to unsubscribe?
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Re: The most under-rated Pentax body
On 28 Feb 2002 at 11:55, Aaron Reynolds wrote: > > The 645n, too deserves more respect than it gets, but I'd say that the > 67 gets less respect than the 645n. I don't know...the medFo folks dis it cuz it's not as big as a 67, the 35mm guys dis it cuz the AF isn't as slick as a 35mm. Plus there are fewer of us to defend it. Hmm...I guess that makes us the more exclusive club. BTW, I can't make it to Toronto Saturday, I have to help a friend move. Damn, that would have been fun. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Rigging up a bounce flash Was: Need some advice about a trade...
On 28 Feb 2002 at 16:42, JamesRel wrote: > > 2. > I use a stroboframe quick-flip bracket attached to a ballhead which is > attached to the flash, this allows the flash to be rotated in (almost) > any direction. > > Method 1 is very clumsy, while method 2 is better but its kind of > large to lug around. I bet! > > Anyone have any suggestions? I'm kind of looking for a solution that > is as small(compact) and allows for the greatest movement of the > flash. Or is method 2 the best solution? The Af500FTZ is the best solution, followed by a AF280T. I think you have the most *creative* solution. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: It's all your fault!
I use the 40/2.8 as a street lens with an MX, when I have to put my camera in my pocket. I also use it in social situations where I want to be inconspicuous. I took it to a dinner at a friends house a couple of weeks ago, along with a roll of T-Max 400. (That happened to be the fastest film I had with me at the time.) I shot some very low light stuff of his wife and baby wide open at a 15th, rating the film at 1600. It looks good. I've become quite fond of that little lens. Paul T Rittenhouse wrote: > Since nobody seems interested in the lenses I offered for sale or trade, I > got to thinking that the M40/2.8 would make a great street lens. It is about > the right focal length, and its compact profile ought to make a > non-threatening package to walk around snapping pics of the uptown yuppies > (being poor, I take pics of people with money, it is all a matter of > viewpoint). Anyway, I pulled into a parking structure uptown, and lowered > the window of my old S-10 Blazer to take a ticket. Unfortunately it went > down with no problem. That was unfortunate because it wouldn't go back up. I > tried to get it up for awhile, gave up, and went home. I ain't going to > leave my truck with the window down around there you can't trust those > working people.. > > So it is your fault, if one of your had bought or traded for the 40mm, I > wouldn't currently be in the middle of replacing the window lift motor in my > truck, waiting for the cordless drill battery to charge. And, to make it > worse I didn't get to try the 40 as a street lens. > > You guys just aren't supportive at all. > > Ciao, > Graywolf > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
How shall we describe ourselves?
Our land: Pentaxia Our selves: Pentaxians (or Pentaxer for the Teutonic membership) Our language: Penta Our disease: Pentaxitis Our men: Pentamen Our women:Pentawow Our children: Pentikes Our cars: Pentacedes Our towns:Pentavilles Our cities: Pentropolis Our suppliers:Angels Suppliers of competitive brands: Pimps :) * "Get over it." Dr. Laura --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
How to unsubscribe?
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Re: Uh-Oh :^D
Congratulations Bill. It's hard to pass up a great deal on one of these cameras. And since some of them are available at truly remarkable prices, our numbers will continue to grow. Ironically, I just came up from the darkroom after developing my first roll of 35mm in quite a few weeks. The big camera is a great tool and I use it extensively, but that MX and pancake lens do still fit in my pocket. Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: The most under-rated Pentax body
>No, the K1000 is the most over rated camera Pentax ever made. You got it >backwards, Dave. K1000 is a simple and reliable camera, that's it! It's the bottom of the line model. What made it so famous was the fact it was the last Pentax mechanical body ever produced in the AF era. If K1000 was consider anything special, then what about FM2n, FM3A, S2 or OM3Ti? regards, Alan Chan _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Uh-Oh :^D
You can't. We all look alike. :) Collin At 08:16 PM 2/28/02 -0500, you wrote: >From: "T Rittenhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Uh-Oh :^D > >I thought you guys shaved your heads. Now you are claiming long hair. Just >how am I supposed to tell a 6x7 fanatic from the other Pentaxians? > >Ciao, >Graywolf * "Get over it." Dr. Laura --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: It's all your fault!
T Rittenhouse wrote regarding the 40mm: > It is about the right focal length, and its compact profile > ought to make a non-threatening package to walk around snapping pics > of the uptown yuppies (being poor, I take pics of people with money, > it is all a matter of viewpoint). You're a funny guy. > Anyway, I pulled into a parking > structure uptown, and lowered the window of my old S-10 Blazer to take > a ticket. Unfortunately it went down with no problem. That was > unfortunate because it wouldn't go back up. I tried to get it up for > awhile, gave up, and went home. I hear that's a problem among guys your age. > > So it is your fault, if one of your had bought or traded for the > 40mm, I wouldn't currently be in the middle of replacing the window > lift motor in my truck, waiting for the cordless drill battery to > charge. And, to make it worse I didn't get to try the 40 as a street > lens. > > You guys just aren't supportive at all. Tom, that lens sucks for that purpose. Better send it up here so I can figure out what it's good for. Just trying to be supportive. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Darkroom operational!
Oh ... when you said "for all my darkroom use" I thought you meant for ALL your darkroom use. "J. C. O'Connell" wrote: > No, I develop FILM in room light (my kitchen). I use the radioshack > timer for that. I like the countdown timer mode because it beeps > if your not paying attention when time runs out. > > > Does the enlarger > > plug into the timer too, allowing you to use the timer to turn the > > enlarging light on/off in repeatable fashion? > > I use a beseler model 8177 digital timer/conroller on the enlarger. It > controls > safelight, focus lighting , and exposure time. It goe from 0.1 to 110 > seconds in 0.1 steps up to 11 seconds and 1 second steps from 1 to 110 > seconds. > > I use the radioshack timer under safelight to time the fix time of prints > (5 minutes). When used in countdown mode it beeps when time is over and > resets to the pre-programmed time again. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ "If you are a bad technician, it doesn't matter how big your negs are." - W. Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The most under-rated Pentax body
>Its overpriced. When compared to ZX/MZ-5n. regards, Alan Chan _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 67 Brotherhood -- a humble question about MLU
On Thu, 28 Feb 2002 14:07:48 -0500, Peter Alling wrote: > Being perfectly proportioned doesn't preclude your being large. I'm in shape ... round is a shape, isn't it? TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Rigging up a bounce flash Was: Need some advice about a trade...
Either way, you will need to buy 3 expensive items: 1) Pentax Hot Shoe Adaptor FG 2) Pentax Extension Cord F5P (or F5PL which is much longer) 3) Pentax Off Camera Adaptor F (tripod mountable) Eventually, you might spend more than you planned. IMO, it would be easier if you just sold your 330FTZ on eBay, and buy the 500FTZ. However, mind you that 500FTZ does not offer some of the feature on MZ-S (if you believe you will buy one in the near future). regards, Alan Chan >I'd just like to thank everyone for all the good advice they gave in >response to my trade-in question! >I've decided that for now, I'll just be keeping my trusty MZ-7 and flash. > >However I do have another question, since the AF330FTZ is basically "fixed" >to the camera hotshoe is there any way to rig up a setup that will allow me >to bounce the flash (while its still attached to the camera)? > >One of the reasons (but not the only reason) for wanting the AF500FTZ was >because it had swivel/bounce capability. > >Currently I have 2 methods around this problem >1. >I use the appropriate extension cords/grips and hold the flash in one hand >while my other hand is holding the camera. This is very clumsy to do and >doesn't allow me to put my hand on the lens (for zooming/focusing with >manual lenses) > >2. >I use a stroboframe quick-flip bracket attached to a ballhead which is >attached to the flash, this allows the flash to be rotated in (almost) any >direction. > >Method 1 is very clumsy, while method 2 is better but its kind of large to >lug around. > >Anyone have any suggestions? I'm kind of looking for a solution that is as >small(compact) and allows for the greatest movement of the flash. Or is >method 2 the best solution? _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Darkroom operational!
> Subject: Re: Darkroom operational! > > > Safelight? You develop your film under a safelight? No, I develop FILM in room light (my kitchen). I use the radioshack timer for that. I like the countdown timer mode because it beeps if your not paying attention when time runs out. > Does the enlarger > plug into the timer too, allowing you to use the timer to turn the > enlarging light on/off in repeatable fashion? I use a beseler model 8177 digital timer/conroller on the enlarger. It controls safelight, focus lighting , and exposure time. It goe from 0.1 to 110 seconds in 0.1 steps up to 11 seconds and 1 second steps from 1 to 110 seconds. I use the radioshack timer under safelight to time the fix time of prints (5 minutes). When used in countdown mode it beeps when time is over and resets to the pre-programmed time again. > What's the timing range? The one I bought goes up to 99 minutes and 59 seconds in steps of 1 second. > Does the LCD display turn off when you're exposing paper? > No but it doesnt need to , its LCD which doesnt emit light it reflects light, i cant see it when I'm exposing paper but thats not what I'm using it for. BTW the radioshack timers are cheap (under 20 bucks) and have a nice big display, much better than a watch for instance. I cant imagine developing film again without it. Much better than using a watch or clock. JCO === > "J. C. O'Connell" wrote: > > > I use a programmable countup/down timer > > sold at radioshack for all my darkroom use. > > Its got a big LCD display that i can even > > see under safelight. Highly recommended. > > -- > Shel Belinkoff > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ > "If you are a bad technician, it doesn't > matter how big your negs are." - W. Robb > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Uh-Oh :^D
On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > ...chanting esoteric, lydian incantations ... "Lydia, oh Lydia, That Encyclopedia..." dave "the hook! the hook!"y -- dave o'brien - http://www.diaspoir.net We'll try to cooperate fully with the IRS, because, as citizens, we feel a strong patriotic duty not to go to jail. -- Dave Barry - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: How safe is it?
Hi Peter, On Thu, 28 Feb 2002 12:37:31 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > UK tax law demands we keep our paperwork for 7 years - when it comes to > disposal I guess we will incinerate, or convert to papier mache. If you get a cross-cut shredder, the output is strips that are about 30mm long an 3mm wide. Big piles of them make great packing material ... just put the item to be shipped inside a plastic bag to keep the "shreddies" out. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Question for Bob Poe re false rumors
Did you get any idea for how long it's been unchanged? Anything on how and when PX has changed? Bob Poe wrote: > I knew that I had heard something about a Kodak > changing B&W film so I called their tec and Todd said > that TX is unchanged, but Plus X has changed slightly. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The most under-rated Pentax body
I think you are right, but keep it to yourself, we don't want the prices to go up. Ciao, Graywolf - Original Message - From: Bill Gekas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 7:39 PM Subject: Re: The most under-rated Pentax body > KX - solid, no batteries required for shutter, dof, mlu, timer, viewfinder > aperture/shutter display, shutter button lock. > > Regards, > > Bill > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: B&W Baby Portraits
Dear Robert, Congratulations! You must be so proud (and tired?) The reason I got back into photography, and Pentax, is that my wife is expecting - due in 4-5 days now. Any hints or tips on how an inexperienced, tired, and excited father can also take good photo's would be appreciated! I hope you and your new family are all well and happy. Cheers, Simon -Original Message- From: Robert Woerner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 1 March 2002 12:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Question for Bob Poe Ref. B&W Baby Portraits Bob, Thanks for your response. Our new daughter's name is Sarah Connally and we intend to call her Connally. She was born 2/20 and weighed 8lbs. 1oz. , 21in. Connally is our first child so we have a lot to learn. I look forward to taking many pics of her. I've had great success thus far shooting some NPS. It just so happens that I've got TriX loaded in the SuperProgram and started taking shots at the hospital and am working on finishing up the roll here at home. I really like the HP5 and have had good luck having it processed and printed by J&D Photo here in Greenville. I want to process and print it myself though. Will try your suggestions. Also have some Agfa Scala B&W slide film on the way from B&H. I hear its cool stuff. I guess the possibilities are unlimited. Again, thanks, With kindest regard, Robert - Original Message - From: "Bob Poe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 9:56 AM Subject: Re: Question for Bob Poe Ref. B&W Baby Portraits > Hi Robert, > Congratulations! What is your new daughter's name? > ...and a bunch more questions... > Anyway, there seems to be quite a variance of > preferences for B&W materials among the highly capable > members of the PDML, and their results can be viewed > on the PUG every month. I have been using Ilford HP5+ > and developing it in Hutchins PMK, which is a bit > tricky to get used to. My students have been using > the Ilford with Kodak D-76, and with usually fine > results. Kodak has refined its TRI-X 400 speed film > in the last few years, and I have begun to use it for > personal work again, but I'm in still in the learning > curve with that. PDML stalwarts make a good case for > TRI-X and D-76. > Let me know how it goes, post some pictures on the > list and I'm sure there will be many valuable opinions > offered by various members who have much more > experience in portaiture than I. > Best wishes, > Bob > > --- Robert Woerner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear Bob, > > > > My wife and I were just blessed with a new daughter > > and I want to shoot some > > black and white pics of her. What combo of film, > > developer(times,etc.) and > > paper do you recommend. Seems as though you really > > like some combination > > discussed in this group and I highly value your > > opinion. > > > > I may talk my wife into that darkroom after all. > > > > Regards, > > > > Robert > > B.S. Lander '85 > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > > To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > > Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > > http://pug.komkon.org . > > > > > = > What boots up must come down. > Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! > http://greetings.yahoo.com > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The most under-rated Pentax body
KX - solid, no batteries required for shutter, dof, mlu, timer, viewfinder aperture/shutter display, shutter button lock. Regards, Bill - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Darkroom operational!
Safelight? You develop your film under a safelight? Does the enlarger plug into the timer too, allowing you to use the timer to turn the enlarging light on/off in repeatable fashion? What's the timing range? Does the LCD display turn off when you're exposing paper? "J. C. O'Connell" wrote: > I use a programmable countup/down timer > sold at radioshack for all my darkroom use. > Its got a big LCD display that i can even > see under safelight. Highly recommended. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ "If you are a bad technician, it doesn't matter how big your negs are." - W. Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Wotzit mean?
Maciek, that was great!!! But speaking of translations pl-eng and eng-pl as a "simple" ones I'd disagree... To make it brighter, check out pl.rec.foto, there was something more about it, concerning an old article by Staszek Stawowy. Follow the links, yu'll first find the original article, and few posts later there is a translation (done by some smart-and-all-other-stuff-software). It's just a thing you have to read :))) (A jakby byly problemy ze znalezieniem tekstu, o daj znac, pogrzebie i wysle :) greets, Leszek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Darkroom operational!
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 12:23 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Darkroom operational! > > > I agree that there's no need for fancy timing equipment, but that the > important thing is repeatability. Hell, with a weak enough developer > solution even a sun dial becomes a viable timer . I use a programmable countup/down timer sold at radioshack for all my darkroom use. Its got a big LCD display that i can even see under safelight. Highly recommended. JCO - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: How Safe Is It?
Shel, If you're worried about ONE email sent at a random time being intercepted, then you should also be worried about THREE or THREE HUNDRED emails sent at seperate times being intercepted. Basically, there is a remote chance that someone can intercept an email . . . if they bother to try to intercept ONE, most likely, they can intercept as many as they want. Personally, I have sent my CC through an email, I don't think I'd do it again, as I now prefer to speak with a 'real live boy' at the end of the line, even if he does turn out to be a 'Pinochio.' At any rate, now that I know your mastercard number, you should find a few new Pentax item purchased at B&H on it next month ;-) Thanks for the new LX accesories, and the MZ-S. Hmmm, I think I need the Nikon D-1 while I'm at it ;-) Illinois Bill Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > I just purchased a few items by using a credit card. I sent the CC > number broken up in three email messages. Now I'm wondering how safe > that really is. Is it a safe method of transmitting such information? > -- > Shel Belinkoff > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ > "If you are a bad technician, it doesn't > matter how big your negs are." - W. Robb > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Uh-Oh :^D
Shel wrote: > I hope you don't succumb to growing your hair long, wearing purple > robes, and chanting esoteric, lydian incantations in the darkroom when > sitting in a candle-lit circle on your bathroom floor while developing > the negatives, and signing your email Brother "Oregon" Bill. Well, my hair (it's very thin) has *never* grown long - after a certain moderate length, it just falls out & clogs the drain! Purple is a nice color, but I'm not much into robes, per se. Rest assured, it'll not go to my head. After all, I had to down-size from 6x9 ;^) The ttl viewing and other SLR attributes make that worthwhile - and there is that 45mm lens for it. That's next, (and probably will be the extent of) my further 67 kit when the $$ situation allows for it. Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Uh-Oh :^D
On Thursday, February 28, 2002, at 04:55 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > I hope you don't succumb to growing your hair long, wearing purple > robes, and chanting esoteric, lydian incantations in the darkroom when > sitting in a candle-lit circle on your bathroom floor while developing > the negatives, and signing your email Brother "Oregon" Bill. I would take offense, but then I realized that I haven't cut my hair since October and I'm starting to look rather shaggy. (Actually, I was growing hockey hair in honor of the Canuck Olympic teams...now that they've won, I suppose I should cut it off again, eh?) Welcome into the fold, Brother Bill! And terrific score, I should add. Uh oh, now there are multiple Brother Bills. I suppose Wheatfield will be Brother Willie from now on. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The most under-rated Pentax body
> On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 03:58:29PM -0500, Brendan wrote: >> Here the MZ-3 is almost the same asthe MZ-5n, just >> rare, I actually got mine for less than a MZ-5n. Nitin Garg > wow. So is the 5n more expensive or 3 is cheaper? I haven't been able to find an MZ-3 in the states. From what I have read the MZ-3 is more expensive than the 5n - new anyway. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Developer exhaustion, was Re: Shutter Speed when not usingCamera...
Hi, from my experience and from what articles and data I have read, developer exhaustion is not a big problem, Shel, you are not dealing with exhaustion (after all, even the homeopathical amount of developer - 10ml or less, which sticks to film in 2-bath development, is sufficient to fulyl develop a film! The second bath is only alkali!), but with getting enough developing agent in the dilution. That's why Agfa-Gevaert recommends using at least 2.5ml of stock rodinal with 1:100 dillution. Same is with Microphen, where certain amount of stock solution is minimum too. Although the chemical effect might be (IMHO is) different from developing agent exhaustion (remember the 2-bath dev), the result is still the same. Perhaps the original poster's problem lies with not using enough developing agent in the dillution, at some dillutions, some tanks are not large enough to hold enough liquid for the developer dillution to have enough of 'stock' agent. In my 1250ml Jobo tank (older, 1000 series), I can't develop full 5 films in microphen at anything else but 1+0 or 1+1 dillution, because IIRC minimum stock solution of Microphen per film is 125ml. Good light, Frantisek Wednesday, February 27, 2002, 3:17:06 PM, Shel wrote: SB> Good morning! SB> That's a good point, Aaron. I've been using more than the minimum SB> amount of developer solution for so long that I don't even think about. SB> For example, a single-reel Jobo tank uses 250ml of solution to cover the SB> film, but the tank will actually hold quite a bit more, I use 400ml of SB> solution. The two reel Jobo tank will use 485ml (465ml?) of solution to SB> cover two rolls of film, but I use 650- 700ml. There are also times SB> when using very dilute solutions, such as Rodinal at 1:100, where I'll SB> develop one roll in a two-reel tank, using 600ml of solution. SB> Aaron Reynolds wrote: >> >> I'm not Shel, but it sounds like you're exhausting the developer with >> longer rolls in the tank. I would suggest perhaps using more developer >> per roll, and going with the correct time for the 'hotter' development >> you get with 24 exposure rolls, and then compare that to the results you >> get with the longer time. My guess is that you'll find the film >> developed for a shorter period with more developer in the tank will have >> finer grain. Good light, Frantisek Vlcek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Wotzit mean?
Shel Belinkoff wrote: > It's crackers to slip a rozer the dropsy in snide ... IIRC Yeah, that too! Stephen - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Uh-Oh :^D
I hope you don't succumb to growing your hair long, wearing purple robes, and chanting esoteric, lydian incantations in the darkroom when sitting in a candle-lit circle on your bathroom floor while developing the negatives, and signing your email Brother "Oregon" Bill. "Bill D. Casselberry" wrote: > > Firstly, allow me to attempt to quelch the ensuing Rah-Rahs > sure to commence, as I have been after one of these for a > long time - since way before discovering the PDML;^) > > I had dropped in to the local mini-lab to pick up some b&w > paper for a project and noticed a somewhat large photographic > device in the display window. Sez I to the counterguy, "Is > Jim selling off his old 67?" Reply - "Yeah, wants to get > some stuff for his truck" Me - "How much?" He - "$500" > Me (after a few pertinent ?'s in re MLU) "Put 'sold' on it, > I'll be right back" > > As I type, beside me sits an MLU 6x7 w/ standard prism and > 105 f2.4 Super-Multicoated Takumar in most excellent condition. > > Seemed like a steal at US$500 to me, and what better to do > w/ the ten $50's I've been stashing in the desk drawer! !8^) > > So - I guess I have "down-sized" enough for consideration > of membership in that fellowship of oddballs so much bally-hooed > of late :^) > > Oregon -( he's got 'em all! )- Bill > > - > Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast > > http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ "If you are a bad technician, it doesn't matter how big your negs are." - PDML member - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Some actual shutter speed & meter tests: Super Program and K bodies
> The Super Program, in every magazine review that I have seen which > showed shutter speed details, has shown a significant jump in > shutter speed (only) at 1/125 second. It would seem that your two > Super Programs are "normal" in this regard. I just dug a few "road tests" out of the archives here, and found: Both Modern Photo and Popular Photo showed a significant jump in shutter speed right at 1/125 in the Super Program. For other bodies with similar Seiko electronic vertical metal shutters: Popular Photo showed the same thing for the ME Super. Modern Photo showed the exact same thing for the ME F. However, in Modern Photo, the ME did not show any such jump. The Program Plus, when tested by Popular Photo, also did not show any such jump. However, interestingly enough, the Program Plus showed a small drop in shutter speed from 1/8 to 1/60, and then "up to" no deviance at 1/125 - I wonder if Pentax (or Seiko) did a little "tweaking", choosing to "fudge" a few other shutter speeds in order to allow the 1/125 speed to not jump up. (?) Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: sigma 70-300mm 4-5.6 DL macro lens.
Hi! While thinking over M80-200 ore F70-210 Zoom I looked for an article from 'photomagazin' 04/99 in the library two days ago. The dates in that test may not show how it is in daily life but I decided that I wouldn't like it because it seems to have evident light-fall-off to the edges and will suffer with flare. Regards Bernd - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Rigging up a bounce flash Was: Need some advice about a trade...
I'd just like to thank everyone for all the good advice they gave in response to my trade-in question! I've decided that for now, I'll just be keeping my trusty MZ-7 and flash. However I do have another question, since the AF330FTZ is basically "fixed" to the camera hotshoe is there any way to rig up a setup that will allow me to bounce the flash (while its still attached to the camera)? One of the reasons (but not the only reason) for wanting the AF500FTZ was because it had swivel/bounce capability. Currently I have 2 methods around this problem 1. I use the appropriate extension cords/grips and hold the flash in one hand while my other hand is holding the camera. This is very clumsy to do and doesn't allow me to put my hand on the lens (for zooming/focusing with manual lenses) 2. I use a stroboframe quick-flip bracket attached to a ballhead which is attached to the flash, this allows the flash to be rotated in (almost) any direction. Method 1 is very clumsy, while method 2 is better but its kind of large to lug around. Anyone have any suggestions? I'm kind of looking for a solution that is as small(compact) and allows for the greatest movement of the flash. Or is method 2 the best solution? Thanks! - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Uh-Oh :^D
Firstly, allow me to attempt to quelch the ensuing Rah-Rahs sure to commence, as I have been after one of these for a long time - since way before discovering the PDML;^) I had dropped in to the local mini-lab to pick up some b&w paper for a project and noticed a somewhat large photographic device in the display window. Sez I to the counterguy, "Is Jim selling off his old 67?" Reply - "Yeah, wants to get some stuff for his truck" Me - "How much?" He - "$500" Me (after a few pertinent ?'s in re MLU) "Put 'sold' on it, I'll be right back" As I type, beside me sits an MLU 6x7 w/ standard prism and 105 f2.4 Super-Multicoated Takumar in most excellent condition. Seemed like a steal at US$500 to me, and what better to do w/ the ten $50's I've been stashing in the desk drawer! !8^) So - I guess I have "down-sized" enough for consideration of membership in that fellowship of oddballs so much bally-hooed of late :^) Oregon -( he's got 'em all! )- Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Some actual shutter speed & meter tests: Super Program and K bodies
On Thursday, February 28, 2002, at 04:11 PM, Fred wrote: > The Super Program, in every magazine review that I have seen which > showed shutter speed details, has shown a significant jump in > shutter speed (only) at 1/125 second. It would seem that your two > Super Programs are "normal" in this regard. Is 1/125 the sync speed? Would this have something to do with it? -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Wotzit mean?
It's crackers to slip a rozer the dropsy in snide ... IIRC Stephen Moore wrote: > > Okresl Swoje potrzeby - my znajdziemy oferte za Ciebie! > To anyone who misspent their youth reading MAD magazine, > that 3rd word might look terribly familiar. :-) -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ "If you are a bad technician, it doesn't matter how big your negs are." - W. Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Darkroom operational!
No ... but the microwave comes in very handy for raising the temperature of water for mixing and diluting chemicals. For example, I keep distilled water in convenient jugs, and the temp is usually around 65- to 70-degrees, depending on ambient temperature. 104-degrees or so is required to mix ID-11. Over time I've been able to approximate how much time in the microwave it takes to raise 700ml of water @ X-degrees to the temp needed to dissolve the ID-11 chemicals. Likewise for bringing cooler water up to 68-degrees for processing. The microwave oven is, IMO, an almost essential darkroom tool - it's a timer, a temperature adjuster, a storage space for miscellaneous items, an extra shelf (2 1/2 gallon, spigotted jugs of distilled water sit atop the oven, allowing quick, easy, and accurate filling of graduated beakers, etc). Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > > Sounds practical. > So, do you process film & eat at the same time? > From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I use the timer on my microwave oven, as mentioned before. When I set > up the darkroom I decided that I'd still process film in the kitchen, in > part because changing timers was unappealing. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ "If you are a bad technician, it doesn't matter how big your negs are." - W. Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The most under-rated Pentax body
On Thursday, February 28, 2002, at 12:52 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > Yeah ... especially the Rodney Dangerfield Ltd. Edition Commemorative. That poor Rodney...the more famous he becomes, the less respect he gets (or so it would appear from his act). -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Darkroom operational!
What ... you've never had a PB & TX sammich! Aaron Reynolds wrote: > > On Thursday, February 28, 2002, at 02:12 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > > > Sounds practical. > > So, do you process film & eat at the same time? > > :) > > Now THAT is a bad idea. > > Unless you're developing in X-Tol, which I hear is comparatively safe if > ingested. It'll still make you sick like a dog, tho'. ;) -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ "If you are a bad technician, it doesn't matter how big your negs are." - W. Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Macro question
To all: For years, I've been using a Pentax 50mm 1:2 coupled to a Vivitar 2x macro focusing teleconverter for detailed close-up photography of broken gear, aluminum castings and serial number documentation. Results have been pretty good so far. Any suggestions for improvement? I have seen a lot of discussion regarding longer lenses, i.e.: 70, 85 and 105 mm, but don't understand the advantages, if any. Any help? Thanks in advance Paul Gutkowski, Milwaukee - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Wotzit mean?
Artur Ledóchowski wrote: > Okresl Swoje potrzeby - my znajdziemy oferte za Ciebie! Would you translate, please, sir? To anyone who misspent their youth reading MAD magazine, that 3rd word might look terribly familiar. :-) Cheers, Stephen - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: The most under-rated Pentax body
1. fine wine is supposed to improve in its performance (taste, punch whatever) with age. I dont think k1000 does that. 2. That they run ~300 can$ only goes to show its are not under-rated. On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 03:44:38PM -0500, David Brooks wrote: > Like fine wine,expensive with age.They run > (with prime)about $275-325 Can in these parts. > > Dave > > Begin Original Message > > From: Nitin Garg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 15:24:19 -0500 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: The most under-rated Pentax body > > > I havent seen any good condition k1000 go on > ebay for less than $80. > one can get lesser known (under-rated) bodies > sometimes with lenses for > that. If you still think thats not overpriced, > I have a k1000 to sell :) > > > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 03:03:19PM -0500, Evan > Hanson wrote: > > Poppycock! : ) > > > > Evan > > > > > > From: "Nitin Garg" > > > > > Its overpriced. > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail > List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the > directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail > List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the > directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > http://pug.komkon.org . > > > > End Original Message > > > > > Pentax User > Stouffville Ontario Canada > > Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The most under-rated Pentax body
On Thursday, February 28, 2002, at 03:18 PM, David Brooks wrote: > Hope he does not throw any thing at me > Saturday You're lucky I treasure my 67 so much, or you might have had a 67-shaped dent in yer head. :P -Aaron p.s. you all knew I was going to say that because you're learning. We'll make you brothers soon enough! - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The most under-rated Pentax body
On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 03:58:29PM -0500, Brendan wrote: > Here the MZ-3 is almost the same asthe MZ-5n, just > rare, I actually got mine for less than a MZ-5n. wow. So is the 5n more expensive or 3 is cheaper? > > --- Artur Ledóchowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ---Original Message--- > > Subject: Re: The most under-rated Pentax body > > > > >Must be the MZ3. A very nice camera together with > > the limited lenses. > > >Seldom mentioned even on this list. > > >Peter Smekal > > > > Isn't it because of the fact that the MZ-3 is too > > much similar to the MZ-5n, > > yet pretty much more expensive? I think many people > > chose the latter because > > of this fact... > > Greetz > > Artur > > > > > > -- > > > > Tego nie znajdziesz w zadnym sklepie! > > [ http://oferty.onet.pl ] > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > > To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > > Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > > http://pug.komkon.org . > > > > > __ > Find, Connect, Date! http://personals.yahoo.ca > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The most under-rated Pentax body
A bicycle is also a symbol of youth, simplicity and dependability. And it isnt too bad to move around on either. Want to trade your motorbike (if you have one) for my bicycle ? On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 03:53:36PM -0500, Evan Hanson wrote: > Perhaps people know value when they see it. The K1000 more than a camera it > is a symbol of youth, simplicity and dependability. And it doesn't take bad > pictures either. > > Evan > > > From: "Nitin Garg" > > I havent seen any good condition k1000 go on ebay for less than $80. > > one can get lesser known (under-rated) bodies sometimes with lenses for > > that. If you still think thats not overpriced, I have a k1000 to sell :) > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: The most under-rated Pentax body
Evan wrote: And it doesn't take bad pictures either. I've always wanted a camera that wont take a bad picture! Sign me up! I assume it's using some form of AI / pattern matching against know good pictures? ;o) Regards, /\/\ick... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Darkroom operational!
On Thursday, February 28, 2002, at 02:12 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > Sounds practical. > So, do you process film & eat at the same time? > :) Now THAT is a bad idea. Unless you're developing in X-Tol, which I hear is comparatively safe if ingested. It'll still make you sick like a dog, tho'. ;) -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Some actual shutter speed & meter tests: Super Program and K bodies
> One SP is way off on its 1/2000 shutter speed; this is apparently > NOT fixable unless suitable electronics can be found. That same > SP is off ALMOST a half stop at 1/125th. > Shutter Deviation from ideal speed expressed in stops (see other table below) > SpeedSP1SP2 KX1KX2KX3 KM > === = == = > 1/2028 -1/10 +2/3*n/an/an/a n/a > 1/1024 +1/4 +1/4 -1/3 +1/4 +2/3* +1 1/6* > 1/512+/-0 +1/6 +1/3 +1/4 +3/8* +1/2* > 1/256-1/10 +/-0 -1/4 +1/8 +1/6+1/3 > 1/128+1/3 +3/8*+/-0 +1/6 +/-0+1/4 > 1/64 +/-0 +/-0 +1/6 +1/6 +1/5+1/4 > 1/32 +/-0 +/-0 +1/6 +1/8 +1/6+1/6 > 1/16 +/-0 +/-0 +/-0 +/-0 +1/8+1/8 > 1/8 +/-0 +/-0 +/-0 +1/8 +/-0+/-0 > 1/4 +/-0 +/-0 +/-0 +/-0 +/-0-1 1/3 to +1/4, variable* > 1/2 +/-0 +/-0 +/-0 +/-0 +/-0-2.5 to -1/3, variable* > 1+/-0 +/-0 +/-0 +/-0 +/-0-0.5 to 0, variable* The Super Program, in every magazine review that I have seen which showed shutter speed details, has shown a significant jump in shutter speed (only) at 1/125 second. It would seem that your two Super Programs are "normal" in this regard. Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
(New Tale) PENTAX LX REPAIR
Today I sent one of my LXs off to Pentax Colorado for CLA, mods, repairs etc. I included the $40 fee for expidited service on the body, and an LX motor drive for normal repair (camera can't be tripped electronically when this drive is attached). I will keep the group informed as to the progress of the saga. JoMac OTHER RECENT COMMENTS: on 2/28/02 11:04, Peter Alling opined: > I take no responsibility for bad experiences dealing with > Pentax USA repair. > > At 08:05 AM 2/25/2002 -0500, Len wrote: >> Is that a definite maybe? ;-) >> >> Len >> --- >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Peter Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> >> Pentax USA doesn't list the LX or any of it's accessories as items no >> longer serviced. You might want to try there. (Then again based on >> past experiences with Pentax Repair in CO you might not). JoMac, Pentaxian "Pentax, Quadraphonic, Betamax, Macintosh" and above the rest. k t, s e n Living life aw o almost parallel to, r yet ever so slightly o u t ---> f - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: dental macro and macro lens
>> What is the difference between a dental macro and macro lens ? > The dental version has markings on the barrel that tell you the > magnification ratios when the lens is used in combination with one of > the two close-up lenses tat make up the Dental closeup set. I'm tempted to add that dental macro images have more "bite", but I don't quite have the nerve... Seriously, though, I have the Pentax brochure on its dental macro system, and I could scan it if anyone were interested - just let me know. Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Endless Possibilities Indeed!
Connally is such a fine and strong name. When she gets too strong, there's the darkroom. (grin) Anyway, it sounds like your life is full with new beginnings. When I was just getting started in photography, I tried a lot of different materials. I was never very satisfied with the results. I finally concentrated on HP5+ and Hutchins PMK, and I still like that combination, but I am looking to TX right now rated at ISO 200 so I can use f.11 which optimizes my optics when I am shooting outdoors in this bright South Carolina sun. I tried that approach with HP5+ and didn't like the highlights,so back to the developing tank. Anywy, good luck with the new daughter and darkroom, a great combination. Cheers, bob --- Robert Woerner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bob, > > Thanks for your response. Our new daughter's name > is Sarah Connally and we > intend to call her Connally. She was born 2/20 and > weighed 8lbs. 1oz. , > > > - Original Message - > From: "Bob Poe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 9:56 AM > Subject: Re: Question for Bob Poe Ref. B&W Baby > Portraits > > > = What boots up must come down. Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! http://greetings.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Used Advise
KEH and Charlotte Camera are two well respected places that sell used gear and stand behind what they sell. David Spaulding wrote: > > I know B&H is good with used, > [...] Does anyone have a place they > trust and have esperience buying > used equipment? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ "If you are a bad technician, it doesn't matter how big your negs are." - W. Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Fw: PENTAX LX REPAIR
> I take no responsibility for bad experiences dealing with > Pentax USA repair. Oooh, don't say that - I finally got up the nerve to send a couple of my LX's with sticky mirror syndrome off to Pentax USA for (I hope) repair, just this morning. :-( Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The most under-rated Pentax body
Here the MZ-3 is almost the same asthe MZ-5n, just rare, I actually got mine for less than a MZ-5n. --- Artur Ledóchowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ---Original Message--- > Subject: Re: The most under-rated Pentax body > > >Must be the MZ3. A very nice camera together with > the limited lenses. > >Seldom mentioned even on this list. > >Peter Smekal > > Isn't it because of the fact that the MZ-3 is too > much similar to the MZ-5n, > yet pretty much more expensive? I think many people > chose the latter because > of this fact... > Greetz > Artur > > > -- > > Tego nie znajdziesz w zadnym sklepie! > [ http://oferty.onet.pl ] > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > http://pug.komkon.org . > __ Find, Connect, Date! http://personals.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The most under-rated Pentax body
Perhaps people know value when they see it. The K1000 more than a camera it is a symbol of youth, simplicity and dependability. And it doesn't take bad pictures either. Evan From: "Nitin Garg" > I havent seen any good condition k1000 go on ebay for less than $80. > one can get lesser known (under-rated) bodies sometimes with lenses for > that. If you still think thats not overpriced, I have a k1000 to sell :) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Used Advise
Thanks. I'll take a look at KEH.com. -- David Spaulding Photographer http://d.spaulding.tripod.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The most under-rated Pentax body
---Original Message--- Subject: Re: The most under-rated Pentax body >Must be the MZ3. A very nice camera together with the limited lenses. >Seldom mentioned even on this list. >Peter Smekal Isn't it because of the fact that the MZ-3 is too much similar to the MZ-5n, yet pretty much more expensive? I think many people chose the latter because of this fact... Greetz Artur -- Tego nie znajdziesz w zadnym sklepie! [ http://oferty.onet.pl ] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
SMC 135/2.5
The other day, someone on the list mentioned a 2.5/135 SMC lens that was for sale. If it is still available, could that person shout at me off-list. Thanks. -Jim Rupprecht - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: The most under-rated Pentax body
Like fine wine,expensive with age.They run (with prime)about $275-325 Can in these parts. Dave Begin Original Message From: Nitin Garg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 15:24:19 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The most under-rated Pentax body I havent seen any good condition k1000 go on ebay for less than $80. one can get lesser known (under-rated) bodies sometimes with lenses for that. If you still think thats not overpriced, I have a k1000 to sell :) On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 03:03:19PM -0500, Evan Hanson wrote: > Poppycock! : ) > > Evan > > > From: "Nitin Garg" > > > Its overpriced. > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: AF-280T on an ME-Super?
> I just looked at my AF280T manual and it does not list any of the > ME cameras,might just work as "full tilt boogie" Yes, different editions seem to vary. My edition of the AF280T manual does mention the use of the MEF and ME Super (and the PDF file version that was made available by Frits and Bob S. mentions them and the MG, MV, and MV-1, as well). In any event, for the ME Super: Flash Modes - Two-level Auto, Two-level MS, M. Automatic Sync - At 1/125 sec., with shutter mode dial set to AUTO or M. Manual Sync - At "125 X" setting of shutter mode dial. Flash Ready Indication - 1. LED lamp inside viewfinder. 2. Flash ready lamp on flash unit. Auto Flash Check - Auto check lamp on flash unit. Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Sigma 70-300 close up lens
After a long search I found they have ( had ) them in stock, I'm waiting for confirmation but I already placed my order :-) BH, adorama, camera world, henrys, mcbain and focuscamera could not get them. http://www.smilephotovideo.com/details.cfm?store=photo&category=Filters&itemno=SG58CUL __ Find, Connect, Date! http://personals.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The most under-rated Pentax body
> All those who new that Aaron would say that raise their hands > Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: 85/1.4 PKA in Sweden, dirt cheap
Well...it's rated as in "C" condition... That probably has something to do with it... Still, 187US for that lens is good deal even if it's a tab beat up... Brendan MacRae - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The most under-rated Pentax body
I havent seen any good condition k1000 go on ebay for less than $80. one can get lesser known (under-rated) bodies sometimes with lenses for that. If you still think thats not overpriced, I have a k1000 to sell :) On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 03:03:19PM -0500, Evan Hanson wrote: > Poppycock! : ) > > Evan > > > From: "Nitin Garg" > > > Its overpriced. > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Re: The most under-rated Pentax body
Hope he does not throw any thing at me Saturday Dave Begin Original Message From: Brendan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 15:10:24 -0500 (EST) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: The most under-rated Pentax body ***Raises hand*** --- David Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All those who new that Aaron would say that > raise their hands > > Dave > > Begin Original Message > > From: Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 10:45:53 -0500 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: The most under-rated Pentax body > > > Quite obviously, it's the Pentax 67. > > -Brother Aaron > > who will resist going into the chant of the > Brotherhood > - __ Find, Connect, Date! http://personals.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: The most under-rated Pentax body
I'd say,more holding its value. Dave(has 2 of em)Brooks Begin Original Message From: "Evan Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 15:03:19 -0500 To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: The most under-rated Pentax body Poppycock! : ) Evan From: "Nitin Garg" > Its overpriced. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Darkroom Horrors
I re-shot yesterday and developed the two rolls this morning - with the correct amount of developer this time. So I'm happy to say things have indeed gone better... Cheers - MCC At 06:42 AM 2/28/02 -0800, you wrote: >I can certainly sympathize with you. I almost did the same thing, but >caught it before pouring the developer in to the tank. I hope your next >experience goes a bit better, Mark. Well, actually a lot better. - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - - Photos: http://www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: The most under-rated Pentax body
***Raises hand*** --- David Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All those who new that Aaron would say that > raise their hands > > Dave > > Begin Original Message > > From: Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 10:45:53 -0500 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: The most under-rated Pentax body > > > Quite obviously, it's the Pentax 67. > > -Brother Aaron > > who will resist going into the chant of the > Brotherhood > - __ Find, Connect, Date! http://personals.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Halogen lighting again
Thanks for the info. Dave Begin Original Message From: Brendan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 12:15:09 -0500 (EST) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Halogen lighting again After seeing Pats pictures with the halogen lighting and some research I found home depot has several 500 and 1000w ( dual lamp ) halogen lights on tripod stands, the blubs are GE t3 type and are quartz halogen 2000hr life but the colour temp is 3000 to 3250 depending on bulb life. I know other bulbs are available and considering the cost of $80 cad for a 1000 w lamp on 7ft stand it seems like an affordable compromise to smith victor or other direct lighting. __ Find, Connect, Date! http://personals.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The most under-rated Pentax body
Poppycock! : ) Evan From: "Nitin Garg" > Its overpriced. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The most under-rated Pentax body
On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 02:01:42PM -0500, Evan Hanson wrote: > Ubiquitous yes, overrated, Never! Its overpriced. > > Evan > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I agree with most of what you've said here -- to the point that I'd say > almost all 35mm Pentax SLRs are the most under-rated. IMO, the only one not > underrated is the K1000. It's overrated. And because it's so ubiquitous, (it > seems to me) there's a very common misperception out there that K1000=Pentax > and when a person has outgrown a K1000 then that person needs to switch > brands, because Pentax has nothing else to offer. Many people with whom I've > chatted about gear -- all being familiar with the Pentax name in the person > of the K1000 -- were surprised to see my SuperProgram or PZ-1 or LX. They'd > never heard of those bodies and had no idea Pentax made anything like them. > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Used Advise
I am starting my own pro photo business. In the interest of cost I am looking at used equipment as much as possible. I know B&H is good with used, but I also know there have to be more places...I just don't want to get a bad deal. Does anyone have a place they trust and have esperience buying used equipment? Is E-bay a good source and how do you keep from getting a bad deal? Thanks. -- David Spaulding Photographer http://d.spaulding.tripod.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Igor FYI
http://www.igorcamera.com/pentax.htm Some interesting Pentax goodies out there. Collin -- --- "Get over it." Dr. Laura -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Switching to Pentax
>That would be the only reason to replace the diaphragm ring, to save money. >I doubt very much the Nikon is removing them from their lenses because >their user base demanded it. Pentax would kill herself if they dump the aperture ring. At least tons of loyal Pentax users need it (for current cameras). regards, Alan Chan _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.; - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
