Available Moonlight
Got bored last night and tried a little night photography: http://jcoconnell.com/temp/nightpool01cs.jpg There are three light sources here. Building lights, pool light, and near full moonlight (overhead). I metered off one of the buildings doors and came up with 30 seconds @ F9.5. So I exposed at 30 sec, 1 min., 2 min., 4 min., and 8 min. Ended up using the 8 minutes exposure. Never hurts to bracket! :) The scene was WAY darker than it looks in the pic There were a coupla short star trails, but they didnt look very good so I removed them in photoshop. Kinda grainy, next time I'll use the P67, but not sure if the 45mm Lens on that camera will be wide enuff. Might even try a fisheye... Camera: Pentax SL (M42) Meter: Gossen Multi-Pro Lens: Mamiya-Sekor SX 21mm F4 (great M42 wide-angle) Film: Tmax 400 ISO 400 Exposure: 8 minutes @ F9.5 Tripod: YES J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] My Business references Websites: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/jco/
Re: Available Moonlight
You did well! Maris J. C. O'Connell wrote: Got bored last night and tried a little night photography: http://jcoconnell.com/temp/nightpool01cs.jpg There are three light sources here. Building lights, pool light, and near full moonlight (overhead). I metered off one of the buildings doors and came up with 30 seconds @ F9.5. So I exposed at 30 sec, 1 min., 2 min., 4 min., and 8 min. Ended up using the 8 minutes exposure. Never hurts to bracket! :) The scene was WAY darker than it looks in the pic There were a coupla short star trails, but they didnt look very good so I removed them in photoshop. Kinda grainy, next time I'll use the P67, but not sure if the 45mm Lens on that camera will be wide enuff. Might even try a fisheye... Camera: Pentax SL (M42) Meter: Gossen Multi-Pro Lens: Mamiya-Sekor SX 21mm F4 (great M42 wide-angle) Film: Tmax 400 ISO 400 Exposure: 8 minutes @ F9.5 Tripod: YES J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] My Business references Websites: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/jco/
Re: Pentax's Smallest Mirror Lenses
Small, Yes... Are they screwmount on the back end? What do you think of the 300/5.6 ? Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Front of the 300/5.6 - http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/mirrors/30056.jpg Front of the 500/8 - http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/mirrors/5008.jpg Back of both lenses - http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/mirrors/300500.jpg Fun... Fred
Re: functional difference pz-1p/pz-1?
Rob, Motor drive on PZ-1 is slower, 2 fps vs 3+ for the PZ-1p. No annoying Panorama frame lines in PZ-1 viewfinder, no Panorama at all ! Some functions get buried in the PF options on the PZ-1. It seems like they brought some out of hiding on the PZ-1p. Spot metering with old M K lenses works on the PZ-1p, not the PZ-1. Overall, you won't miss much with the PZ-1 as a backup to the PZ-1p. Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what is the functional difference between the pz-1 and the updated pz-1p? i ask because i'm thinking of acquiring a pz-1 as a backup body to my glorious pz-1p
Re: Pentax SL with METER!
I just bought a clip on meter for my H3v. It's in nice condition, not as nice as yours of course, but it looks good. I was surprised at how well it works. Paul J. C. O'Connell wrote: Just got the meter for my SL in the mail today ( NEW OLD STOCK IN BOX ). Didnt cost me much either...Damn thing is right on the money too, 35 years later! I've posted 3 pix of the combo on my screwmount gallery site: http://jcoconnell.com/pntxgall.htm Or just go here: http://jcoconnell.com/meteredsl04.jpg JCO J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] My Business references Websites: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/jco/
Re: FS: MX and KX
Doesn't Boz list them on his site? If not, I wouldn't know where to look but perhaps someone else will reply. Paul Malcolm Smith wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: Yes, you missed all of the 60 series LX screens. The great ones. Paul Hi Paul, Can you point me at a site where I can fill this gap in my screen knowledge? Malcolm
Re: FS: MX and KX
Hi, Doesn't Boz list them on his site? If not, I wouldn't know where to look but perhaps someone else will reply. http://kmp.BDimitrov.de/ - [Focusing] - [focusing screens] Cheers, Boz
Re: Test
Welcome back.Sell the Canon did yaVBG Dave Begin Original Message From: David Chang-Sang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 19:30:18 -0500 To: Pentax Discussion Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Test I'm back :) Dave End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Art needs to be in a frame.That way we know when the art stops and the wall begins--Frank Zappa http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
Re: functional difference pz-1p/pz-1?
And 35mm coverage of the flash on the PZ-1, the PZ-1p has 28mm coverage. The exposure correction for flash is way nicher/easier on the 1p. (I have the PZ-1, this is really the feature I mess most on my camera versus the PZ-1p) The PZ-1 has an interval setting, you can shoot a picure every xxx minutes/hours, the PZ-1p doesn't have that at all. This is the only feature where the PZ-1 has more to offer. Although I tend to agree with Bob S. that you won't miss much on the PZ-1, it depends on what you intend to use the most if this is an issue or not. Anyway, I don't see a reason to exchange it for a PZ-1p now, but I should have bought the PZ-1p in the first place when I bought my PZ-1. AAA Camera Exchange talked me into the PZ-1, I won't have that happen to me again. On Saturday 15 February 2003 11:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob, Motor drive on PZ-1 is slower, 2 fps vs 3+ for the PZ-1p. No annoying Panorama frame lines in PZ-1 viewfinder, no Panorama at all ! Some functions get buried in the PF options on the PZ-1. It seems like they brought some out of hiding on the PZ-1p. Spot metering with old M K lenses works on the PZ-1p, not the PZ-1. Overall, you won't miss much with the PZ-1 as a backup to the PZ-1p. Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what is the functional difference between the pz-1 and the updated pz-1p? i ask because i'm thinking of acquiring a pz-1 as a backup body to my glorious pz-1p -- Frits Wüthrich Pentaxianado
RE: Snow Geese in Washington state
The white van does have a pink tint, because it's sunset. I guess one could call it vw bus with alpenglow. Most of the photos, except for a couple, were taken close to sunrise or sunset. That's when the light is the most interesting, in my opinion. I seek out strange light conditions. In this case, it was the rising and setting sun filtering through the fog with the snow geese overhead, and hence the pink and yellow tints. (and no photoshop) Harald JCO wrote: Not to be giving you a hard time, but What planet were they taken on, Mars? There looks to be a very unnatural magenta cast. Was the van white or pink? Was the sky pink? If the colors looked that way it must have been surreal I dont consider color CORRECTION cheating but to each his own I guess JCO __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com
Pentax 300/4.5 FA Lens - Help!
I just purchased a used, but in good shape, Pentax 300/4.5 FA lens. However, I think there is a problem with it. When I put it in manual focus, and move the collar to infinity or it's shortest focusing distance...the collar (not the focusing range) continues to move or slip beyond the limit. I thought the collar should stop at both extremes.period. Is a screw loose somewhere? Is this easy to fix?? Your help would be appreciated. Robert James
Re: Pentax SL with METER!
Just got the meter for my SL in the mail today ( NEW OLD STOCK IN BOX ). Didnt cost me much either...Damn thing is right on the money too, 35 years later! I've posted 3 pix of the combo on my screwmount gallery site: http://jcoconnell.com/pntxgall.htm Or just go here: http://jcoconnell.com/meteredsl04.jpg JCO J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] My Business references Websites: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/jco/ Nice gallery! What is the small metal piece (adapter?) besides the clip-on flash adapter for the Spotmatic? Andre --
Re: Pentax 300/4.5 FA Lens - Help!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just purchased a used, but in good shape, Pentax 300/4.5 FA lens. However, I think there is a problem with it. When I put it in manual focus, and move the collar to infinity or it's shortest focusing distance...the collar (not the focusing range) continues to move or slip beyond the limit. I thought the collar should stop at both extremes.period. Is a screw loose somewhere? Is this easy to fix?? Your help would be appreciated. Robert James Nope- that's how it is. It should feel different at the stop though, but then go beyond. -Ryan
Re: Pentax's Smallest Mirror Lenses
Front of the 300/5.6 - http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/mirrors/30056.jpg Front of the 500/8 - http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/mirrors/5008.jpg Back of both lenses - http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/mirrors/300500.jpg Fun... Fred They were very cheap many years ago so I bought the 300mm to find out it was giving quite bad images: faded colors (or call it low contrast), distorsion and a very hot spot about 24mm in diameter if I remember well. I have some images around. Have you tried them? Andre --
Re: Available Moonlight
Rather puzzling choice of subject if I may say so. - Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Got bored last night and tried a little night photography: http://jcoconnell.com/temp/nightpool01cs.jpg
Re: Available Moonlight
JCO: Lens: Mamiya-Sekor SX 21mm F4 (great M42 wide-angle) You're not the first one to say that. And they were selling for a bit less than the Takumar 20mm from what I've seen (a few years ago). I've heard the 85/2.8 is quite good also. While their 85/1.7 is impossible to find as Mamiya dropped out of SLR business just after releasing this lens. Their normal lenses are very flary. How is the 21mm in this respect? We know it is better distorsion corrected than the Takumar. But does it have more contrast? Andre --
Re: METERS and a few ???'s
At 1:12 PM -05002/15/03, Otis C. Wright, Jr. wrote: Doug Brewer wrote: Before jumping into the river of frustration that is adapting zone principles to 35mm, you may wish to shoot a few hundred more rolls of film, Interesting, but what does one do between now and then... Really.. One practices and studies the results. It is far more efficient to learn the equipment at hand than to purchase additional equipment and attempt to introduce the complexities and further variables of the spotmeter/zone system into the process. in my opinion, of course. Doug -- Douglas Forrest Brewer Ashwood Lake Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alphoto.com
Re: Panorama switch on Z-70 and PZ70
Hi, thanks to all who responded to my query on the Z-70/PZ-70 cameras! It seems that the Z-70 does not have a panorama switch, but the PZ-70 does. Neither Z-70p nor PZ-70p seem to exist. Cheers, Boz
Viewfinders on KX, KM, and K1000
Hi, Those that have a manual for either of the above cameras, please check out what the manual says about viewfinder magnification ratio and coverage. I also need the depth of the KX body without a lens attached. And let me be optimistic, the weight of the KX-motor and KM-motor bodies would be great to have too... Thanks in advance, Boz -- _\\|//_ Imagination is more important than knowledge... 0(` O-O ')0 A. Einstein ===ooO=(_)=Ooo=== Bojidar D. Dimitrov author and editor, Pentax K-Mount web page [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmp.BDimitrov.de/ = __ __
Re: End of K-mount?
Does anyone know for sure that the existing software in the MZ-S could not operate an FAJ lens aperture? Or why a firmware upgrade could not be installed to provide it (at no cost, of course)? Solid reasoning only please, no wild speculation! Question. Who would want to use a FAJ lens on a MZ-S? Clearly, these lenses are targeted towards the lower end of the consumer market, so a pro with a MZ-S usually use something better like a FA 28-70 f4 or f2.8 constant for example. Pentax made low end cameras like the MZ-50 and now the MZ-60 that essentially have no built-in aperture lever. Basically, any K mount autofocus lens before the introduction of the FAJ are made essentially FAJ like when mounted on these low-end bodies. So will Pentax dump the K mount with the introduction of FAJ? NO.. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com
Does the PZ-20 have a panorama switch?
Hi, it seems that the some PZ-?? bodies have the panorama switch but not the small p at the end of the designation. Is the PZ-20 one of them? Thanks in advance, Boz
Do the Z-20p and Z-70p exist?
Hi, Has anyone ever seen a Z-20p or a Z-70p camera in existance? I know that the Z-20 and Z-20p exist, but the question here is about models with a small p at the end of the name... Thanks in advance, Boz
Re: functional difference pz-1p/pz-1?
Joe, Actually, I think the winder speed is closer to 2.5 fps for the PZ-1. It just isn't particularly faster than a winder. The PZ-1p is closer to 4 fps (very similar to the 3.5 fps of a Motor Drive A for a Super Program). It is not as fast as the 4+ of an LX Motor Drive. I think Boz overstates the specs for the PZ-1. Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, the PZ-1 winder speed is 3 fps -- isn't the PZ-1p more like 4+ ?
Re: Pentax's Smallest Mirror Lenses
[I sent this reply a few hours ago, and it did not appear in my incoming PDML posts, so I'm sending it again - I apologize if there ends up being two of these replies.] Small, Yes... Are they screwmount on the back end? What do you think of the 300/5.6 ? Hi, Bob. They're the T-mount lenses that are part of the two mirror lens versions of Pentax spotting scopes. (I've added a few more photos, below.) I really haven't used them (yet) as photographic lenses, but I will do so shortly and report back. (I have no idea yet how they will do photographically - for one thing, I doubt that they're SMC, so that (supposed) fact alone may limit their usefulness a bit. (???) For the 300/5.6 - http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/mirrors/30056.jpg http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/mirrors/300562.jpg http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/mirrors/300563.jpg For the 500/8 - http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/mirrors/5008.jpg http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/mirrors/50082.jpg http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/mirrors/50083.jpg For both lenses - http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/mirrors/300500.jpg http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/mirrors/both1.jpg http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/mirrors/both2.jpg http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/mirrors/both3.jpg http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/mirrors/both4.jpg http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/mirrors/both5.jpg ;-) Fred
Re: functional difference pz-1p/pz-1?
Can't say what the manual says for the PZ-1, but if you have the camera, try it. You will not get spot metering with any of the K or M lenses. That's how mine has worked since the first day (although it took me a long time to know this!). Try it in a dim room with a table lamp and a wide angle K or M lens. The 'SPOT metering area is about the same size as the [ focus ] area of the PZ-1. Put the lamp in the focus area and meter - center weighted. Turn on spot metering and do the same. You will find identical readings. Now try it with an A, F, or FA lens. You will get different readings. Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Per the PZ-1 manual, spot metering can be used with the old lenses (lenses without lens information contacts) on the PZ-1.
Re: Question for the AF guys?
--- David A. Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: J. C. O'Connell wrote: Do you all only use the AF for moving subjects/action and switch it off for static subjects? It depends upon the situation and the lighting condition. Here is the problem with AF systems in general. AF systems track a moving subject and will try to keep the lens in focus . It does not make forecasts of where the subject will move next. The point I am trying to make is this, you must know your subject well. This has made many great photographers very competent and very good at what they do without the aid of the latest and greatest AF systems. Do I use AF? Yes on static subjects using spot AF and trap focus with AF assist on moving subjects.. I rarely use servo with my PZ-1 to track my subjects though since I pan a lot.. Rick.. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com
Re: Pentax 300/4.5 FA Lens - Help!
Robert, My FA 24/2.0 does the same... by design. Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I put it in manual focus, and move the collar to infinity or it's shortest focusing distance...the collar (not the focusing range) continues to move or slip beyond the limit. I thought the collar should stop at both extremes.period. Is a screw loose somewhere? Is this easy to fix??
Re: Viewfinders on KX, KM, and K1000
Bojidar Dimitrov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Those that have a manual for either of the above cameras, please check out what the manual says about viewfinder magnification ratio and coverage. K10000.88x mag (with 50mm lens, focused at infinity) Doesn't mention coverage. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Snow Geese in Washington state
Awesome photos. I really enjoy your photos from Washington and Oregon. My favorite is the one with all of the snow geese in flight, followed by the four snow geese in flight. What amazing creatures. Kathy Leickly - Original Message - From: Harald Rust [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 8:21 PM Subject: Snow Geese in Washington state Here are a few shots I took on a recent trip to the Skagit Valley in Washington state of flocks of overwintering snow geese. I didn't get exactly the shot I wanted, but it was a lot of fun anyway. I used my MZ-S with the 400 mm 5.6 Pentax AF. Here's the link: http://www.geocities.com/hn_phototravels/ Harald Rust __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com
Lens color cast
I've recently conversed to 3 pros shooting MF LF. Their opinion of Fujinon EBC coating is fascinating. Each has independently concluded that they don't like it for shooting chromes. They rather like the lenses for bw think the greenish cast (not near as green as Rodenstock, but a little so) is the ultimate for bw. Apparently they had to compensate for the color shift with Fujinon lenses. Anyone shooting these in 35mm (probably screw mount) taken note of any difference in results? (They all seem to like Schneider's bluish cool coating.) Also, I got a bargain today on Maxell CR-P2 6V lithium batteries. 6 new packages. All for $20 + shpg. Collin
Re: End of K-mount?
Chris wrote: I pointed out that Nikon users said the same thing, and that Nikon, a very well-respected camera company, obviously thought that there was a very good reason to remove the ring, so they did. Let's see... Canon and Minolta have no aperture rings... now Nikon is slowly removing the aperture ring from their lenses... The below might be of interest for those who believe Nikon will remove the aperture ring from all their lenses: In a recent meeting with Mr. Tetsuro Goto, Head of Research and Development for Nikon SLR cameras, I asked if all future professional specification Nikkors would follow suit and be of the G-type. He explained that the decision to adopt the G specification for the VR 70-200mm lens was based purely on engineering reasons, because Nikon's priority was to produce a lightweight, compact lens, and that there was no policy to dispense with a conventional aperture ring in future lenses provided it fitted the design criteria. If this is to be believed, and I cannot see why not, Nikon will maintain the aperture ring of most of their lenses. So I guess the panic that Pentax will remove the aperture ring could now be finally brought to an end! :o) Pål
Re: Viewfinders on KX, KM, and K1000
Hi Boz, I don't have these manuals, but you can download them here: http://www.pentax.com/docstore/index.cfm?show=6 The quality of scans is awful, but they're readable. Regards, Lukasz === www.fotopolis.pl [EMAIL PROTECTED] === internetowy magazyn o fotografii - Original Message - From: Bojidar Dimitrov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 10:09 PM Subject: Viewfinders on KX, KM, and K1000 Hi, Those that have a manual for either of the above cameras, please check out what the manual says about viewfinder magnification ratio and coverage. I also need the depth of the KX body without a lens attached. And let me be optimistic, the weight of the KX-motor and KM-motor bodies would be great to have too... Thanks in advance, Boz -- _\\|//_ Imagination is more important than knowledge... 0(` O-O ')0 A. Einstein ===ooO=(_)=Ooo=== Bojidar D. Dimitrov author and editor, Pentax K-Mount web page [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmp.BDimitrov.de/ = __ __ --r-e-k-l-a-m-a- Tanie bilety lotnicze! http://samoloty.onet.pl
Re: Viewfinders on KX, KM, and K1000
Hi, Boz. Those that have a manual for either of the above cameras, please check out what the manual says about viewfinder magnification ratio and coverage. From the KX manual - 0.88x magnification with 50mm lenses (life-size with 55mm lens). Dioptry -0.8. 93% field of view. The depth is stated for having a 50/1.4 lens attached (why???) - 94mm (3.7). [And the KX sales booklet says the exact same things for the viewfinder and for the depth.] From the KM manual - 0.87x magnification with 50mm lenses (life-size with 55mm lens). Dioptry -1.0. [And the KM sales booklet says the exact same thing.] From the K1000 manual - 0.88x magnification with 50mm standard lens focused at infinity. -1 diopter eyepiece. I also need the depth of the KX body without a lens attached. The KX manual and the KX sales booklet both give the same (with 50/1.4 lens attached) measurement - sorry. And let me be optimistic, the weight of the KX-motor and KM-motor bodies would be great to have too... Good luck, Boz... ;-) Fred
Re: METERS and a few ???'s
A spot meter works fine for either BW or color photography, but you have to use it correctly. It can be very valuable when you have to record critical highlight or shadow detail. I frequently use a spotmeter for shooting sunsets. That way I can meter the part of the sky that I want to be approximate zone 5 density and take my reading there. With color film that would me a medium orange to a light red. You can also use it to set your shadow at zone 3 or so. You would meter the shadow area and minus two stops. If you want a zone 8 highlight, you would meter the highlight and add 3 stops. I frequently use a spotmeter in that manner when shooting snow scenes. Paul Stenquist John Daniele wrote: Hi all I have a few questions about spot meters From the opinion I received on my photos it seems I am a few stops off on my exposure I have been counting on the built in meter. I feel I might have better results using a spot meter and learning the zone system. My questions are 1. The pentax digital spot meter that has been zone six modified will it also meter correct when using color film's or is it BW specific. 2. I hate to ask this one the Pentax Dig meter vs Minolta spot meter F Thanks JD --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.455 / Virus Database: 255 - Release Date: 2/13/2003
Re: functional difference pz-1p/pz-1?
I just checked the PZ-1 manual, which I have on my website: http://www.wuthrich.cc under photolinks. It says for the PZ-1 : Approx. 3 frames/sec (continues mode). (page 113). As I don't shoot in continues mode, this is not a disadvantage for me versus the PZ-1p at all, for others it might be, depending on their use. On Saturday 15 February 2003 21:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe, Actually, I think the winder speed is closer to 2.5 fps for the PZ-1. It just isn't particularly faster than a winder. The PZ-1p is closer to 4 fps (very similar to the 3.5 fps of a Motor Drive A for a Super Program). It is not as fast as the 4+ of an LX Motor Drive. I think Boz overstates the specs for the PZ-1. Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, the PZ-1 winder speed is 3 fps -- isn't the PZ-1p more like 4+ ? -- Frits Wüthrich Pentaxianado
Re: If Pentax just made _ONE_ real, old-style Pentax...
It's been said that Ricoh priced this 1980s flagship to sell at a loss just to earn the company a reputation as a maker of a great high-end body. Unfortunately, they married this so-called flagship model with substandard materials. Otherwise, I would still be using mine. regards, Alan Chan _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
RE: Available Moonlight
it was close ( didnt have to travel). JCO -Original Message- From: smiley beetle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 3:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Available Moonlight Rather puzzling choice of subject if I may say so. - Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Got bored last night and tried a little night photography: http://jcoconnell.com/temp/nightpool01cs.jpg
RE: Available Moonlight
Seems pretty good with respect to flare resistance. It's not multicoated but a real deep blue. I havent used it that much, but will try to change that. JCO -Original Message- From: Andre Langevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 3:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Available Moonlight JCO: Lens: Mamiya-Sekor SX 21mm F4 (great M42 wide-angle) You're not the first one to say that. And they were selling for a bit less than the Takumar 20mm from what I've seen (a few years ago). I've heard the 85/2.8 is quite good also. While their 85/1.7 is impossible to find as Mamiya dropped out of SLR business just after releasing this lens. Their normal lenses are very flary. How is the 21mm in this respect? We know it is better distorsion corrected than the Takumar. But does it have more contrast? Andre --
Re: Pentax 300/4.5 FA
Thanks to all for the info. This is a great group of Pentax fans. Thanks again, Robert James In a message dated 2/15/03 2:23:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just purchased a used, but in good shape, Pentax 300/4.5 FA lens. However, I think there is a problem with it. When I put it in manual focus, and move the collar to infinity or it's shortest focusing distance...the collar (not the focusing range) continues to move or slip beyond the limit. I thought the collar should stop at both extremes.period. Is a screw loose somewhere? Is this easy to fix?? Your help would be appreciated. Robert James
Re: Does the PZ-20 have a panorama switch?
Bojidar Dimitrov wrote: Hi, it seems that the some PZ-?? bodies have the panorama switch but not the small p at the end of the designation. Is the PZ-20 one of them? Boz, I have a PZ-20 and no, it does not do panorama. -- Later, Gary
Re: functional difference pz-1p/pz-1?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't say what the manual says for the PZ-1, but if you have the camera, try it. You will not get spot metering with any of the K or M lenses. That's how mine has worked since the first day (although it took me a long time to know this!). Try it in a dim room with a table lamp and a wide angle K or M lens. The 'SPOT metering area is about the same size as the [ focus ] area of the PZ-1. Put the lamp in the focus area and meter - center weighted. Turn on spot metering and do the same. You will find identical readings. Now try it with an A, F, or FA lens. You will get different readings. Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Per the PZ-1 manual, spot metering can be used with the old lenses (lenses without lens information contacts) on the PZ-1. My PZ-1 works with spot metering on a lens without A contacts, I put the short extension tube from auto set K between an FA lens and the body. Having Function 1 set to option 0 (Matrix and spot metering available) Aiming at a bare light bulb on the ceiling so the bulb just covers the spot metering area, the exposure goes from 1/90 at matrix position (the camera defaults from matrix to center weighted) to 1/500 at spot position when I change metering modes without moving the camera. The same test with function 1 set to option 1 (Matrix and center weighted metering available) has no exposure difference between the metering positions, both at 1/90 because the camera uses center weighted at both settings. Note that matrix metering does not work on lenses without A contacts. The Spot indicator is still displayed on the LCD display and on the display in the viewfinder even though center weighted metering is selected, not spot metering. I have both the PZ-1 and the PZ-1p (Z-1p) the metering mode is correctly displayed no matter what type of lens is used, the PZ-1 uses the same spot display for spot or center weighted metering. The PZ-1p also does not display the matrix metering indicator when a pre A lens will not allow it to use matrix metering, the PZ-1 will not visually indicate that matrix metering is not available with pre A lenses. I also prefer the PZ-1p over the PZ-1 for this and other user interface improvements. -- David S. Nature and wildlife photography http://www.sheppardphotos.com
opinions on the Moose circular polarisers
stick with a normal polariser or go a moose
Re: METERS and a few ???'s
Before jumping into the river of frustration that is adapting zone principles to 35mm, you may wish to shoot a few hundred more rolls of film, learn how your camera's meter is going to react to a given situation and how you can then use those tendencies to your advantage. I totally agree. The Zone system is for sheet film. You can adapt it to roll film if you want to take twelve pictures of the same thing. But if you're going to do that, you might as well shoot sheet film. --Mike
Re: METERS and a few ???'s
- Original Message - From: John Daniele Subject: METERS and a few ???'s Hi all I have a few questions about spot meters From the opinion I received on my photos it seems I am a few stops off on my exposure I have been counting on the built in meter. I feel I might have better results using a spot meter and learning the zone system. My questions are 1. The pentax digital spot meter that has been zone six modified will it also meter correct when using color film's or is it BW specific. 2. I hate to ask this one the Pentax Dig meter vs Minolta spot meter F The photo that I saw may have been underexposed, or it may be that the image didn't translate from negative to scanning to my computer screen. I am basing my thoughts on the lack of detail available to me on the wall near the corner of the table. I thought that detail should have been available there. You can answer whether the film is underexposed or not by looking at the neg and seeing if there is texture in the darkest part of the picture. Also, that picture has a very wide tonal range, is wasn't an easy scene to meter. If, in fact, it is underexposed, the exposure was most likely thrown off by the window light. I get along just fine with the built in meter of my camera. If I am shooting negative film, I meter with the camera pointing down, to declude the sky. If I am shooting slide film, I point the camera up to meter, as nothing is worse than a blown out sky with slide film. Just about the last thing I would recommend to an inexperienced photographer is a spot meter. The knowledge base required to use one to advantage is pretty wide and deep. I do use a Zone VI modified meter when I am shooting 4x5, since I can expose and develop each sheet of film to an exact specification, depending upon the range of the scene. You can't do that with roll film, and I think this really a spot meter a waste of effort with roll film. In this case I agree with Doug that you would be well advised to use the money you would have spent on a spotmeter to buy more film and processing, and learn how the meter in your camera interprets things. As for what to do until then... rant Think of your next few dozen rolls of film as the price of learning. I just don't get the theory that perfection can be an immediate thing. Sometimes things just don't work the way you had hoped. If your as smart as you are visually gifted (I am basing this on one photo, don't let me down bt making it a one off lucky composition) you will look very closely at what worked, what didn't and why, and adjust your technique for next time. For example, if you go back to that diner, have a smoke and decide to take a picture, based on the last time you were there, you will probably open up a stop over what the meter says, tell your friend to move over a bit and unfold a napkin to reflect some light into that corner and take the picture when the moment seems right. Then you will knock a minute off the processing time when you get to the darkroom. If that works, and the rest of the pictures on the roll look good as well, you may find that you want to set your meter to 50 rather than 100 for TMX, and make a habit of developing for 7 minutes rather than 8. On the other hand, you could go out and buy a spot meter, and spend the next year being frustrated by the thing because it isn't making your pictures any better. For that matter, if you buy a spot meter, you should probably buy a densitometer as well, so you can reference your exposure and development. Or, forget all that crap, go out and have fun with your camera, which is what you should be doing in the first place, and don't worry about what some balding fat guy in Canada has to say on the subject. /rant William Robb
Re: Re: METERS and a few ???'s
Lost every Pentax V meter on ebay i'v bid on in the last month. Going for the Minolta F now.Taking no prisiors now.:) Dave Begin Original Message From: Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 16:15:48 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: METERS and a few ???'s JD, I have recently purchased the Minolta Spotmeter F. It is an awesome meter. Being able to pick a highlight or shadow as a base for measurement and letting the meter calculate the midtones is the best feature of this meter. It seems that you can get a better deal on the Minolta than the Pentax these days. A manual is available on line from the Minolta site. http://www.minoltausa.com/eprise/main/MinoltaUSA/MUSAContent/CPG/CPGP roducts?NS=truecname=expfname=Mname=Spot_Meter_fmDetail=Manuals HTH, Jeff John Daniele wrote: Hi all I have a few questions about spot meters From the opinion I received on my photos it seems I am a few stops off on my exposure I have been counting on the built in meter. I feel I might have better results using a spot meter and learning the zone system. My questions are 1. The pentax digital spot meter that has been zone six modified will it also meter correct when using color film's or is it BW specific. 2. I hate to ask this one the Pentax Dig meter vs Minolta spot meter F Thanks JD --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.455 / Virus Database: 255 - Release Date: 2/13/2003 End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Art needs to be in a frame.That way we know when the art stops and the wall begins--Frank Zappa http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
Re: Viewfinders on KX, KM, and K1000
Boz. I have the K1000 manual. I'll be right back:) Dave Begin Original Message From: Bojidar Dimitrov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 22:09:49 +0100 To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Viewfinders on KX, KM, and K1000 Hi, Those that have a manual for either of the above cameras, please check out what the manual says about viewfinder magnification ratio and coverage. I also need the depth of the KX body without a lens attached. And let me be optimistic, the weight of the KX-motor and KM-motor bodies would be great to have too... Thanks in advance, Boz -- _\\|//_ Imagination is more important than knowledge... 0(` O-O ')0 A. Einstein ===ooO=(_)=Ooo=== Bojidar D. Dimitrov author and editor, Pentax K-Mount web page [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kmp.BDimitrov.de/ = __ __ End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Art needs to be in a frame.That way we know when the art stops and the wall begins--Frank Zappa http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
Re: METERS and a few ???'s
Hi all I have a few questions about spot meters From the opinion I received on my photos it seems I am a few stops off on my exposure I have been counting on the built in meter. I feel I might have better results using a spot meter and learning the zone system. My questions are 1. The pentax digital spot meter that has been zone six modified will it also meter correct when using color film's or is it BW specific. 2. I hate to ask this one the Pentax Dig meter vs Minolta spot meter F Thanks JD Much better than buying a spotmeter would be to buy a few books on the Zone System. It's the principles that matter, not the execution. Once you understand the principles you can apply the understanding to all kind of metering. A good place to start would be to first read Fred Picker's _The Zone VI Workshop_ and then follow it with Ansel Adams's _The Negative_. If you want to proceed from there, the natural book would be Phil Davis's _Beyond the Zone System_. Those three books would be a much better investment than a spotmeter IMHO. Especially if you use 35mm. --Mike
Re: functional difference pz-1p/pz-1?
The manual tells you that. Spot only works with lenses that have the appropriate electrical contacts. K and M lenses can be made to perform as an A or FA for metering purposes - I think Mark Roberts has the info on his web site? Cheers Shaun David S. wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't say what the manual says for the PZ-1, but if you have the camera, try it. You will not get spot metering with any of the K or M lenses. That's how mine has worked since the first day (although it took me a long time to know this!). Try it in a dim room with a table lamp and a wide angle K or M lens. The 'SPOT metering area is about the same size as the [ focus ] area of the PZ-1. Put the lamp in the focus area and meter - center weighted. Turn on spot metering and do the same. You will find identical readings. Now try it with an A, F, or FA lens. You will get different readings. Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Per the PZ-1 manual, spot metering can be used with the old lenses (lenses without lens information contacts) on the PZ-1. My PZ-1 works with spot metering on a lens without A contacts, I put the short extension tube from auto set K between an FA lens and the body. Having Function 1 set to option 0 (Matrix and spot metering available) Aiming at a bare light bulb on the ceiling so the bulb just covers the spot metering area, the exposure goes from 1/90 at matrix position (the camera defaults from matrix to center weighted) to 1/500 at spot position when I change metering modes without moving the camera. The same test with function 1 set to option 1 (Matrix and center weighted metering available) has no exposure difference between the metering positions, both at 1/90 because the camera uses center weighted at both settings. Note that matrix metering does not work on lenses without A contacts. The Spot indicator is still displayed on the LCD display and on the display in the viewfinder even though center weighted metering is selected, not spot metering. I have both the PZ-1 and the PZ-1p (Z-1p) the metering mode is correctly displayed no matter what type of lens is used, the PZ-1 uses the same spot display for spot or center weighted metering. The PZ-1p also does not display the matrix metering indicator when a pre A lens will not allow it to use matrix metering, the PZ-1 will not visually indicate that matrix metering is not available with pre A lenses. I also prefer the PZ-1p over the PZ-1 for this and other user interface improvements. -- Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services High Street, Broadford, Victoria, 3658. www.heritageservices.com.au/ Phone: 0414-967644 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This week's SMP: The Bronica RF
Incidentally, this week's column is up. It's called The Bronica RF645 Rangefinder Revisited. I can't remember if I've mentioned here that the column has been picked up by photo.net. It's listed on the photo.net home page. The column remains the same on all three locations, though sometimes with slightly different illustrations or edits. The SMP Book of the Week is _William Eggleston's Guide_. --Mike Mike Johnston See The Sunday Morning Photographer, my weekly online column about photography at any of these three locations: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sunday1.shtml http://www.steves-digicams.com/smp/smp_index.html http://www.photo.net/mjohnston/ Also, check out my regular monthly column in the U.K. _Black White Photography_ magazine!
Re: Viewfinders on KX, KM, and K1000
Boz. My K1000 manual states this: Viewfinder: Pentaprisim finder with cross-microprisim or split-image focusing screen.0.88x magnification with 50mm standard lens focused at infinity.-1 diopter eyepiece. Hope that helps. This is from the manual i recieved in 1997 with my K1000 purchase Dave Brooks Begin Original Message From: Bojidar Dimitrov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 22:09:49 +0100 To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Viewfinders on KX, KM, and K1000 Hi, Those that have a manual for either of the above cameras, please check out what the manual says about viewfinder magnification ratio and coverage. I also need the depth of the KX body without a lens attached. And let me be optimistic, the weight of the KX-motor and KM-motor bodies would be great to have too... Thanks in advance, Boz -- _\\|//_ Imagination is more important than knowledge... 0(` O-O ')0 A. Einstein ===ooO=(_)=Ooo=== Bojidar D. Dimitrov author and editor, Pentax K-Mount web page [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kmp.BDimitrov.de/ = __ __ End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Art needs to be in a frame.That way we know when the art stops and the wall begins--Frank Zappa http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
Re: Re: METERS and a few ???'s
Not having the SO turn on the lights when loading 120 film helps too. Dave (salvaged 4 out of 12 )Brooks Begin Original Message From: Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those three books would be a much better investment than a spotmeter IMHO. Especially if you use 35mm. --Mike End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Art needs to be in a frame.That way we know when the art stops and the wall begins--Frank Zappa http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
Re: This week's SMP: The Bronica RF
I'm very interested to hear what you have to say about this camera, Mike. I was very impressed when i handled one at Christmas,along with the SQ.I can see were tha bracket will be beneficial with this one. Dave. DAVE Begin Original Message From: Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 19:35:04 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: This week's SMP: The Bronica RF Incidentally, this week's column is up. It's called The Bronica RF645 Rangefinder Revisited. I can't remember if I've mentioned here that the column has been picked up by photo.net. It's listed on the photo.net home page. The column remains the same on all three locations, though sometimes with slightly different illustrations or edits. The SMP Book of the Week is _William Eggleston's Guide_. --Mike Mike Johnston See The Sunday Morning Photographer, my weekly online column about photography at any of these three locations: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sunday1.shtml http://www.steves-digicams.com/smp/smp_index.html http://www.photo.net/mjohnston/ Also, check out my regular monthly column in the U.K. _Black White Photography_ magazine! End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Art needs to be in a frame.That way we know when the art stops and the wall begins--Frank Zappa http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
RE: This week's SMP: The Bronica RF
The Bronica 645RF always seemed like a nice cam.. I'm interested to hear about it too.. Cheers, Dave -Original Message- From: David Brooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 8:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: This week's SMP: The Bronica RF I'm very interested to hear what you have to say about this camera, Mike. I was very impressed when i handled one at Christmas,along with the SQ.I can see were tha bracket will be beneficial with this one. Dave. DAVE Begin Original Message From: Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 19:35:04 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: This week's SMP: The Bronica RF Incidentally, this week's column is up. It's called The Bronica RF645 Rangefinder Revisited. I can't remember if I've mentioned here that the column has been picked up by photo.net. It's listed on the photo.net home page. The column remains the same on all three locations, though sometimes with slightly different illustrations or edits. The SMP Book of the Week is _William Eggleston's Guide_. --Mike Mike Johnston See The Sunday Morning Photographer, my weekly online column about photography at any of these three locations: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sunday1.shtml http://www.steves-digicams.com/smp/smp_index.html http://www.photo.net/mjohnston/ Also, check out my regular monthly column in the U.K. _Black White Photography_ magazine! End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Art needs to be in a frame.That way we know when the art stops and the wall begins--Frank Zappa http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
Re: RE: This week's SMP: The Bronica RF
Oh Oh.Another brand switch Davidvbg Dave Begin Original Message From: David Chang-Sang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 21:05:16 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: This week's SMP: The Bronica RF The Bronica 645RF always seemed like a nice cam.. I'm interested to hear about it too.. Cheers, Dave -Original Message- From: David Brooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 8:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: This week's SMP: The Bronica RF I'm very interested to hear what you have to say about this camera, Mike. I was very impressed when i handled one at Christmas,along with the SQ.I can see were tha bracket will be beneficial with this one. Dave. DAVE Begin Original Message From: Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 19:35:04 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: This week's SMP: The Bronica RF Incidentally, this week's column is up. It's called The Bronica RF645 Rangefinder Revisited. I can't remember if I've mentioned here that the column has been picked up by photo.net. It's listed on the photo.net home page. The column remains the same on all three locations, though sometimes with slightly different illustrations or edits. The SMP Book of the Week is _William Eggleston's Guide_. --Mike Mike Johnston See The Sunday Morning Photographer, my weekly online column about photography at any of these three locations: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sunday1.shtml http://www.steves-digicams.com/smp/smp_index.html http://www.photo.net/mjohnston/ Also, check out my regular monthly column in the U.K. _Black White Photography_ magazine! End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Art needs to be in a frame.That way we know when the art stops and the wall begins--Frank Zappa http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Art needs to be in a frame.That way we know when the art stops and the wall begins--Frank Zappa http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
Re: opinions on the Moose circular polarisers
It depends on whether you like or need the extra warmth. Alternatives are to use a warmer film, or add warmth to your liking in a photo editing program (if you are set up for digital). Joe
Re: Panorama switch on Z-70 and PZ70
On Sunday, February 16, 2003, at 01:29 AM, Michel Carrère-Gée wrote: I have read the PZ-70 owner manual downloaded from pentax-usa, and can't find any panorama switch !! For me, both Z-70 and PZ-70 aren the same, and don't have a panorama switch. In the Pentax-Z-serie, the alone bodies that have panorama mode are: Z-50p and Z-1p/PZ-1p But no exist PZ-50p in US, only Z-50p in other country ? I am staring at my PZ-70 right now and there is a panorama switch on it. I've even used it once. Am I the owner of the world's only PZ-70 with a panorama switch??? --jc
