Re: Pentax announced development of digital medium format
Caveman, S! Don't go putting dangerous ideas like that into their heads. Pentax's beancounters are even now rubbing their hands and going Bwahahahahaha... at the very thought of it. regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Caveman [EMAIL PROTECTED] (snip) In fact, I propose an even better approach. An yearly photo tax that we should pay to the companies. If you want to take photos, you pay the tax. This can be easily enforced with the appropriate firmware. You pay the tax and get an yearly authorisation code that you enter, or go to an authorised camera shop to do it for you. cheers, caveman ;-)
Re: Pentax announced development of digital medium format
Anthony Farr wrote: Caveman, S! Don't go putting dangerous ideas like that into their heads. I have even better ones ;-) You could do it like with calling cards / mobile phones. You buy the card, scratch it and get the code, enter it et voila, instead of 30 minutes of talk, you get 24 exposures. Or you may buy professional cards for 36 exposures, or XL packages of 240 and XXL of 360. Naah, it's too obvious. We can hide it. After a number of exposures, the camera blips and displays E734. You look in the manual and find out it means Error 734 - service needed. Next time it's E345 - shutter calibration required. etc. The guys don't actually have to service anything, they just take your money, reset a cmos counter and here you go for another round of shots. cheers, caveman
Re: Pentax announced development of digital medium format
Hmm... not so bad idea, but according to my secret source Pentax is going even further. Very soon they will start selling just promises of outstanding products to come. You pay a yearly fee and get nothing. They earn money and spend nothing in annoying stuff such as RD, manufacturing, quality control, and so on. No worries of possible uncompatibilities, No obsolescence, No faults, No service, No problems at all. Always top equipment available in your dreams. As long as it will last... Cheers, Dario Bonazza - Original Message - From: Caveman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 9:37 AM Subject: Re: Pentax announced development of digital medium format Anthony Farr wrote: Caveman, S! Don't go putting dangerous ideas like that into their heads. I have even better ones ;-) You could do it like with calling cards / mobile phones. You buy the card, scratch it and get the code, enter it et voila, instead of 30 minutes of talk, you get 24 exposures. Or you may buy professional cards for 36 exposures, or XL packages of 240 and XXL of 360. Naah, it's too obvious. We can hide it. After a number of exposures, the camera blips and displays E734. You look in the manual and find out it means Error 734 - service needed. Next time it's E345 - shutter calibration required. etc. The guys don't actually have to service anything, they just take your money, reset a cmos counter and here you go for another round of shots. cheers, caveman
Re: Fun Friday: typo awards
HI Keith Whaley wrote: Tim? He's an acid-head. And, that's the BEST thing you can say about him... He ponders, What's wrong with my brain? Fact is, he has little normal brain left. He will NEVER have a normal, functioning brain. That's also a fact. ...an interesting guy? If you get your rocks off talking to malfunctioning aging druggies and such, it may be okay for YOUR tastes, but they're way, WAY too irrational for my tastes. They're spaced out even when they're totally off it! And you think it's 'cute.' Yuk! Yet another wasted human being... I was using it sardonically, as I might if I said that GWB was interesting, or in the interests of fairness, WJC. Or our dear, beloved Prime Minister. Of course, they are all interesting for different reasons. One of the great disadvantages of short, written communications. Unsardonically, I do think he has produced some thought-provoking images. I also unsardonically think that a number of artists of various eouvres have produced magnificent works whilst under the influence of various substances. Whether they would have done better or worse without the substance is something we will never know. mike mike
Re: Pentax announced development of digital medium format
Is it possible that PDML itself bears some of the blame for Pentax's shift to body controlled aperture. After being pilloried for dropping the feature on the MZ-S, it returns with increased emphasis on later cameras. So what happens? They get pilloried again! Bet they wish they were Asahi Brewing instead of Asahi Optical. The brewery's customers are bound to be a more cheerful lot. regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] It works from the body, just like the PZ-1p. Remember, most people here complained about the MZ-S not having aperture available from the body. Now the complaint is they want to use the aperture ring instead of the body. Go Figure! Bill
Re: Pentax announced development of digital medium format
Intelligent purchasing would prevent the problem. A potential customer who also owns another camera which lacks body control of the aperture would simply not purchase an FAJ lens. There are still lenses in the current FA lineup that are close to the FAJs in specification, so just opt for one of those instead, if you must get a new lens at all. Existing Pentax owners (since A series) in all likelihood would not need to buy any new lens. regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Caveman [EMAIL PROTECTED] (snip) P.S. How do you set aperture with two *current* pieces of equipment like a MZ-5n with a FAJ lens ? Ain't this flagrant incompatibility ?
Re: Pentax announced development of digital medium format
Anthony Farr wrote: Is it possible that PDML itself bears some of the blame for Pentax's shift to body controlled aperture. After being pilloried for dropping the feature on the MZ-S, it returns with increased emphasis on later cameras. So what happens? They get pilloried again! Bet they wish they were Asahi Brewing instead of Asahi Optical. The brewery's customers are bound to be a more cheerful lot. Certainly the louder of the two! keith g regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] It works from the body, just like the PZ-1p. Remember, most people here complained about the MZ-S not having aperture available from the body. Now the complaint is they want to use the aperture ring instead of the body. Go Figure! Bill
Re: FAJ - New Lenses VS Traditional Photography
My last two photo ID's have been digital. It gets a bit like 'Big Brother' when you think about facial recognition software... Bob S. Polaroid found their niche with ID photos and similar stuff. Digital has reserved its niche with webmasters and PJs.
Lens Mount Progress
Let's see if I understand this. 20 years ago we had a K mount with accurate aperature. Then we had the KA derivatives that were accurate only without using A. Now we've got KAJ which is accurate using A, and is about as good as K. Progress and improvement is a marvelous thing.
Re: Hot: THE Camera !
Looks like it says Panasonic on the top of the camera's built in flash, but can't quite make it out. My favorite is the '50mm zoom'. -- Scott Caveman wrote: Hints: - the first letter of the brand is P (you can see that in the pics) - the flash hot-shoe is lateral and not above the prism - seller says it takes Pentax lenses - there is no IS USM mentioned It suspiciously sounds like a Pentax. Could this be the PZ-D ? cheers, caveman ;-) Brendan wrote: What in the hell is that thing? --- Caveman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you want a camera that's a SLR but also has a rangefinder, and a digital viewfinder ? Don't wait anymore, here it is ! And it takes Pentax lenses ! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2935314567category=15240 ROFL ! cheers, caveman ;-) P.S. Disclaimer: if you bid on that one, don't blame it on me. Read everything careful and judge yourself. __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: Pentax announced development of digital medium format
At about $10K or more, digital MF backs will have to come down quite a bit for them to be appealing to me. I know the 35 cameras came down from these kind of prices before, but I'm not going to get worried for at least 5 years. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tripod question
Lon Williamson wrote: ... There's this SWOOP in photography that urges you to Spend Spend Spend. Resist it on ballheads if you have a good Pan and Tilt. SWOOP? DKTA (Don't Know That Acronym). Regards, Stephen
Re: a thought on marketing philosophy
Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/16/03 04:06PM - Original Message - From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 10:26 AM Subject: Re: a thought on marketing philosophy 6 MP is simply good enough for a large number of folks. snip, snip... Sorry, I don't get this. The biggest problem with 6 MP is the wide angle problem. Huh? Isn't the wide angle problem caused by the size of the sensor? Kenneth Waller Yes, it is. But 6MP sensors are APS sized. Some companies want to continue to build around the APS-sized sensor.
Pop photos test of the FA 200mm macro
Here's the short version: Minimal pincushion distortion (0.46 percent) Exposure at the film plane was accurate with 1/3-stop underexposure due to light falloff, and about 1/4-stop overexposure from f/ 5.6 to f/ 32. At the closeest focusing distance of 20 inches (1:1) centersharpness was very good from f/ 4 to f 5.6, excellent at f/ 8, good at f/ 11, acceptable at f/ 16 and poor from f/22 to f/32. Corner sharpness eas good from f/ 4 to f/ 8, acceptable from f/ 11 to f/ 16, and poor f/22 to f/ 32. Test slides were sharp and contrasty from center to corners at all aperatures. Light falloff was gone by f/ 5.6. Flare was very well controlled throughout. AF timing was fast and autofocusing judged moderately quiet. An outstanding 200mm f/ 4 macro, offering unsurpassed performance and remarkable close-focusing capability Translated form pophoto lingo it's a very good lens with a noisy AF. /Paul _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: Pentax announced development of digital medium format
On Tuesday, June 17, 2003, at 09:21 AM, Steve Desjardins wrote: At about $10K or more, digital MF backs will have to come down quite a bit for them to be appealing to me. The Leaf C-most was under US$10K over a year ago. With full-frame 645 backs coming out, I think prices of the non-full-frame backs will drop some more. The difficulty, I think, is getting a good discount on them because they're still primarily sold through full service dealers. --jc
Re: Pentax announced development of digital medium format
Realistically, I'm really not their intended audience. I bought a used 645 and have to think carefully about buying a $1500 DSLR. A $4000 back would be very competitive and still beyond my range. I'm assuming here that pros who use MF are willing to pay a little more for equipment (given what MF prices look like). Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/17/03 10:13AM On Tuesday, June 17, 2003, at 09:21 AM, Steve Desjardins wrote: At about $10K or more, digital MF backs will have to come down quite a bit for them to be appealing to me. The Leaf C-most was under US$10K over a year ago. With full-frame 645 backs coming out, I think prices of the non-full-frame backs will drop some more. The difficulty, I think, is getting a good discount on them because they're still primarily sold through full service dealers. --jc
Re: Pentax announced development of digital medium format
- Original Message - From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Intelligent purchasing would prevent the problem. C'mon! How can you demand _intelligence_ from this lot! (grinning, ducking and running very, very, fast...) Cheers, Jostein
Re: Pentax announced development of digital medium format
From the buyers POV, yes, absolutely. I was trying to see things from a manufacturer's POV; which system to concentrate their effort on. The larger the film area, the bigger the challenge to replace it with a chip. Jostein - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 4:58 AM Subject: Re: Pentax announced development of digital medium format Jostein, That would only be if your intention was to go digital instead of film. Bruce Monday, June 16, 2003, 2:29:35 PM, you wrote: Snip J Another reason to choose the 645 over 67 is that even the large MedF CCDs J are not full size 645... J Jostein
Re: Pentax announced development of digital medium format
- Original Message - From: Caveman [EMAIL PROTECTED] And that's what happens when you start to play compatibility games. Reasonable doubts appear and every possibility is open. I'm sure it helps sales a lot. It would certainly help sales a lot to be backwards compatible, even _with_ a new series of FAJ-645 lenses. For one, it's easier to sell a new system with a wide existing range of lenses and accessories. For another, potential buyers will benefit if they don't need to sell out existing equipment to go digital. For yet another, Pentax wouldn't dare the economic risk of thrashing the whole existing 645 range for a new product. They have truly demonstrated over the years that they are an _evolutionary_ company, not a revolutionary one. Jostein
Re: Lens Mount Progress
If Pentax had maintained the all metal quality, all mechanical precision of the original K series cameras, then this would be a very small list representing the users of some very pricey gear. Camera manufacturers these days, unless their plants are entirely in Germany or Sweden and their pricing in the elite category, tread a very delicate path between the high wages of technologically advanced nations, and the low skilled labour-force of nations newly developing their industrial capabilities. In other words, the skilled Japanese workers who made Pentaxes in the '60s and '70s now draw as much wages as present day Hasselblad and Leica workers. If Pentax manufacturing hadn't changed, its products would need to compete in the Hassselblad and Leica market sector. That ain't gonna happen. The reality is that Japanese camera makers have moved their plants for all but prestige products into neighbouring, lower waged nations. Simultaneously, the expensive mechanics of cameras has been stripped away in favour of electronics, a process which is ongoing. Some may see the whittling away of the mechanical elements of K-mount as a 'death of a thousand cuts', but it is inevitable that within a decade the only mechanical parts of a lens mount will be the mount itself and the locking pin. However, how many of us believe that Pentax could survive a radical shift to that state-of-affairs, like Canon's move from FD to EOS? regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Lon Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let's see if I understand this. 20 years ago we had a K mount with accurate aperature. Then we had the KA derivatives that were accurate only without using A. Now we've got KAJ which is accurate using A, and is about as good as K. Progress and improvement is a marvelous thing.
Re: Hot: THE Camera !
Panasonic does make a digital camera, the LZ1, I think is the model. It sports a Leica Elmarit zoom lens - 12X optical! It even has image stabilization to assist using the 12X zoom. Now if only Pentax came out with a camera like this. Jim A. From: Scott D [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 07:54:41 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Hot: THE Camera ! Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 08:54:41 -0400 Looks like it says Panasonic on the top of the camera's built in flash, but can't quite make it out. My favorite is the '50mm zoom'. -- Scott Caveman wrote: Hints: - the first letter of the brand is P (you can see that in the pics) - the flash hot-shoe is lateral and not above the prism - seller says it takes Pentax lenses - there is no IS USM mentioned It suspiciously sounds like a Pentax. Could this be the PZ-D ? cheers, caveman ;-) Brendan wrote: What in the hell is that thing? --- Caveman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you want a camera that's a SLR but also has a rangefinder, and a digital viewfinder ? Don't wait anymore, here it is ! And it takes Pentax lenses ! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2935314567category=15240 ROFL ! cheers, caveman ;-) P.S. Disclaimer: if you bid on that one, don't blame it on me. Read everything careful and judge yourself. __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: Lens Mount Progress
FWIW, I got my first 35mm SLR in 1984. It was an early graduation present from my parents so that I could take a BW class my senior year in college. I didn't know jack about jack. I went to a Wolf Camera(boy, have they changed?!) and bought an ME Super with an M 50mm f 2.0. Why did I buy Pentax? Because the nice sales lady assessed my needs and budget. Did she do me right? Luck? This was the only camera I used until 1999 when I decided to get into AF. I researched Nikon and Canon and Pentax. I liked the N70(no N80 then), thought the Elan II was crap, but really liked the ZX5n. Got a ZX5n. Backwards FUNCTIONAL capability with ALL K-mounts. Pentax multiplied like rabbits in my house. PZ1p, Super Program, K1000, LX, Spotmatic, lenses, lenses, more lenses, old and new. Then, I waited for the next body...the MZ-S. Damn! What an overpriced, overall disappointment. I know it has several great features but not freakin' $750-900 worth. Sorry, it just doesn't add up for me. I keep reding this list hoping that Pentax will come out with a body like the PZ1p only with 2003 features similar in capability or superior to the Nikon N90 and F100(veritable bargains as far as I'm concerned). You see, I've been on nature photography safaris, etc. and have had the opportunity to look through some wonderful viewfinders and fast glass on F100s and EOS1vs(?) while I am continually disappointed with the viewfinder on my PZ1p. I also remain unimpressed with with the viewfinder of the MZ-S. Alas, hope. The *ist. NOT. :-( Waiting, waiting..waiting. I hear Nikon calling my name but is their glass(it is the glass that matters, right?) as good as Pentax? What shall I do? Big sale and abandon Pentax? Buy Nikon? Boz, I feel your pain. Just venting. Thanks for listening. Regards, Robert
Re: Pentax announced development of digital medium format
What 'K' lenses are in the current catalogue? K28/f3.5 Shift, K500/f4.5, K1000/f8, Mirror lenses? Arnold Sylwester Pietrzyk schrieb: All 'K' lenses (maybe except for 100f4 bellows - I am not sure if it has automatic diaphragm) in current catalog uses stop-down metering and thus are fully compatible with *ist cameras.
Re: Fun Friday: typo awards
Hi, I missed everything in this thread except for this one email. Can I assume the Tim in question is Tim Page, the photographer? If so, I've been to a talk he gave a year or 2 ago and I think he's unsardonically interesting. Whatever his motives or mental state, and whatever the causes of any of his mental states, he's lived a very interesting life (one that I don't envy) and produced some interesting photographs. I don't rate him particularly highly as a photographer, but I've noticed that some of his shots are almost identical to some of the best shots by Larry Burrows and Philip Jones Griffiths, which suggests at the very least that he was travelling with one or both of them; if he's good enough for them, he's certainly good enough for me. And the world is certainly more interesting for his being in it. As Mike has pointed out, people like Coleridge, de Quincey, Aldous Huxley and others were druggies (not to mention all the alcoholics); that in itself seems to be no disqualification when it comes to being interesting or producing interesting work. If you're not talking about Tim Page, then just ignore me... g -- Cheers, Bobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Monday, June 16, 2003, 9:38:25 AM, you wrote: HI Keith Whaley wrote: Tim? He's an acid-head. And, that's the BEST thing you can say about him... He ponders, What's wrong with my brain? Fact is, he has little normal brain left. He will NEVER have a normal, functioning brain. That's also a fact. ...an interesting guy? If you get your rocks off talking to malfunctioning aging druggies and such, it may be okay for YOUR tastes, but they're way, WAY too irrational for my tastes. They're spaced out even when they're totally off it! And you think it's 'cute.' Yuk! Yet another wasted human being... I was using it sardonically, as I might if I said that GWB was interesting, or in the interests of fairness, WJC. Or our dear, beloved Prime Minister. Of course, they are all interesting for different reasons. One of the great disadvantages of short, written communications. Unsardonically, I do think he has produced some thought-provoking images. I also unsardonically think that a number of artists of various eouvres have produced magnificent works whilst under the influence of various substances. Whether they would have done better or worse without the substance is something we will never know. mike mike
Re: Pentax announced development of digital medium format
Anthony Farr wrote: Bet they wish they were Asahi Brewing instead of Asahi Optical. The brewery's customers are bound to be a more cheerful lot. http://pug.komkon.org/03jun/vdsync.html ;-) cheers, caveman
Re: 6x7 extension tubes 90 leaf
Dave, I have the tubes and the 90LS. I could swear that I have shot that way before. I just put #1#2 tubes on with the 90 and dry-fired it with the regular shutter and the leaf. What happens is that if the leaf is cocked, it will close the shutter when you press the shutter release but it will not fire the shutter. The net result is that you will get a blank picture. However, if you don't use the leaf shutter (uncocked), it works just fine with the tubes - no different than any of my other lenses. HTH, Brother Bruce Monday, June 16, 2003, 11:31:18 PM, you wrote: bcin Hi Gang. bcin Well i'v never seen Jr. have such a bad show day since 1996,but i'm a parent and have bcin to put up with bad show days instead of utilizing great IR weather,D'oh. bcin Just wondering if anyone in the 'hood,uses the extension tubes with the 90mm bcin f2.8 LS lens.I was just looking at the pdf download from Pentax,and it gave info for bcin the 55,77 and 105(plus the others)but no 90.It later stated the leaf shutter gets in the bcin way. I was bcin hoping to use this lens to start some 6x7 macro,but it looks like i'll need to look for bcin the 105,135 or a 200 bcin or so. bcin Any comments. bcin Dave(getting a fuji 400 f back today)Brooks bcin BTW sun all this week so hopefully i can bang off my 1st roll of IR this season.Man what bcin a bummer of a spring.
Re: Pentax announced development of digital medium format
Dario Bonazza 2 wrote: Hmm... not so bad idea, but according to my secret source Pentax is going even further. Very soon they will start selling just promises of outstanding products to come. You pay a yearly fee and get nothing. C'mon. They could send you some nice product brochures. They need just one graphic artist or two. All sort of dream cameras and lenses. Hell, we could even have an LXn ! cheers, caveman
Re: Lens Mount Progress
20 years ago we had a K mount with accurate aperature. Not really. 'A' lenses on Super Program in program or shutter priority mode is no more accurate than current combination. Just that this issue wasn't raised. Then we had the KA derivatives that were accurate only without using A. No less accurate than A or F lenses. Now we've got KAJ which is accurate using A, and is about as good as K. I don't have the *ist FAJ lenses to play with, but I don't see how they would be more accurate if the same design was retained. You cannot just make one product accurate and expect everything works perfectly, because the issue is about combination. Progress and improvement is a marvelous thing. Not really, there is no improvement in this area. regards, Alan Chan _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
Re: FA77 observation...
I read the thread on fast forward and deleted it afterwards. Now I'm asking myself, and youselves: is it OK to use an external hood with this lens (I find the internal one too small)? Or... do I have to mind about finding a light one (plactic)? Andre --
Re: OT: Doggy pics
In a message dated 6/16/03 7:51:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://asiafoto.com/pets/dogs/index.htm Excellent shots. Great use of fill flash... Vic
Re: OT: Doggy pics
That's what happens when you use fill flash. You get outstanding blue skies instead of washed out white ones. Is that what you prefer...??? vic In a message dated 6/16/03 10:53:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some cuties, but oh boy that sky is so blue it nearly hurts. Is that standard Oz Land sky or some polarizer job ?
Re: Lens Mount Progress
From Robert Leigh Then, I waited for the next body...the MZ-S. Damn! What an overpriced, overall disappointment. I know it has several great features but not freakin' $750-900 worth. Sorry, it just doesn't add up for me. I keep reding this list hoping that Pentax will come out with a body like the PZ1p only with 2003 features similar in capability or superior to the Nikon N90 and F100(veritable bargains as far as I'm concerned). You see, I've been on nature photography safaris, etc. and have had the opportunity to look through some wonderful viewfinders and fast glass on F100s and EOS1vs(?) while I am continually disappointed with the viewfinder on my PZ1p. I also remain unimpressed with with the viewfinder of the MZ-S. Hallo Robert, I think the price for the MZ-S is not to high, if you compare it to the F100. It has also a metal body and something, that the F100 not has. It has data inprinting, leaving the film end out, an internal flash and MLU and it if far smaller. Last year I was on a safari with a friend who had a F100. I was glad that I bought a MZ-S, because of the above features. The fill-in flash was good to use. Not to say, that the F100 is a bad camera, but I liked my Pentax more. regards Rüdiger
Re: Lens Mount Progress
Anthony, I agree with every thing you say except very pricey gear. Almost nobody WANTS that old stuff anymore. Good post, and you're keeping me in check. Everyone I know says that's a good thing to do. grin. Anthony Farr wrote: If Pentax had maintained the all metal quality, all mechanical precision of the original K series cameras, then this would be a very small list representing the users of some very pricey gear. Camera manufacturers these days, unless their plants are entirely in Germany or Sweden and their pricing in the elite category, tread a very delicate path between the high wages of technologically advanced nations, and the low skilled labour-force of nations newly developing their industrial capabilities. In other words, the skilled Japanese workers who made Pentaxes in the '60s and '70s now draw as much wages as present day Hasselblad and Leica workers. If Pentax manufacturing hadn't changed, its products would need to compete in the Hassselblad and Leica market sector. That ain't gonna happen. The reality is that Japanese camera makers have moved their plants for all but prestige products into neighbouring, lower waged nations. Simultaneously, the expensive mechanics of cameras has been stripped away in favour of electronics, a process which is ongoing. Some may see the whittling away of the mechanical elements of K-mount as a 'death of a thousand cuts', but it is inevitable that within a decade the only mechanical parts of a lens mount will be the mount itself and the locking pin. However, how many of us believe that Pentax could survive a radical shift to that state-of-affairs, like Canon's move from FD to EOS? regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Lon Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let's see if I understand this. 20 years ago we had a K mount with accurate aperature. Then we had the KA derivatives that were accurate only without using A. Now we've got KAJ which is accurate using A, and is about as good as K. Progress and improvement is a marvelous thing.
Re: 6x7 extension tubes 90 leaf
Thanks Bruce. Maybe thats what they meant.g BTW I just got back my test jumping pans(Fuji 400F) and there not bad.Low light,1/30 wide open.Caught 1 rider full off the ground and jump/ground with motion blur. Cannot wait to get a longer lens for the 6x7 Brother Dave (tube watching)Brooks Dave, I have the tubes and the 90LS. I could swear that I have shot that way before. I just put #1 tubes on with the 90 and dry-fired it with the regular shutter and the leaf. What happens is that if the leaf is cocked, it will close the shutter when you press the shutter release but it will not fire the shutter. The net result is that you will get a blank picture. However, if you don't use the leaf shutter (uncocked), it works just fine with the tubes - no different than any of my other lenses. HTH, Brother Bruce Monday, June 16, 2003, 11:31:18 PM, you wrote: bcin Hi Gang. bcin Well i'v never seen Jr. have such a bad show day since 1996,but i'm a parent and have bcin to put up with bad show days instead of utilizing great IR weather,D'oh. bcin Just wondering if anyone in the 'hood,uses the extension tubes with the 90mm bcin f2.8 LS lens.I was just looking at the pdf download from Pentax,and it gave info for bcin the 55,77 and 105(plus the others)but no 90.It later stated the leaf shutter gets in the bcin way. I was bcin hoping to use this lens to start some 6x7 macro,but it looks like i'll need to look for bcin the 105,135 or a 200 bcin or so. bcin Any comments. bcin Dave(getting a fuji 400 f back today)Brooks bcin BTW sun all this week so hopefully i can bang off my 1st roll of IR this season.Man what bcin a bummer of a spring.
Re: FA645 150-300/5.6 ED IF and about close-up lenses used onzooms
Included in the box was a Asahi Pentax S82 close up lens. (...) The urban legend says that close-up lenses may have not that great edge sharpness, but viewed from the viewfin! der the image is sharp from edge to edge with this lens. If there is a loss of sharpness at the edges, which there probably is, it possibly not significant and it equally possibly fixable by stopping down. These Pentax close-up lenses (S82, T132 etc.) are of the achromatic type (2-lens doublet). They are a lot better than singlets. And they have great SMC on them. I hear that such good close-up lenses are good alternatives to a macro lens when you don't need a flat field. By the way, I should soon get in the mail the Olympus A-life close-up lens, a triplet with a 49mm thread, with a very high diopter (it goes to 1:1.) I'll try it with 50/1.7 and 50/1.4 to see if I can do without a macro lens while trekking. Andre --
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I have my own domain, and email is forwarded to btinternet from there. Now I wonder if the problem is with the forwarding, or with btinternet. I wondered if anyone could determine the problem based on the email headings of the email I attached. Frits On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 04:05, Alan Chan wrote: Yes, make a complaint. It may not do much good but, at least you will have voiced your dissatisfaction. Hotmail has a fair amount of problems in this respect, too, but I haven't been able to find anyone that will listen to my complaint. Hell, as far as I can see, there's no way for me to voice a complaint. I'm a paying customer, too. When my subscription runs out, I'm going elsewhere. ??? Are you talking about PDML, or Hotmail? My Hotmail account is free but rather unstable. Yahoo is much better. However, since both are free, I don't complain. regards, Alan Chan _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: film scanners
http://www.fujifilm.com/JSP/fuji/epartners/Products.jsp?nav=1parent=PRODUCT_CATEGORY_473512product=43535001 Interesting claim: Compatible with all formats of film allowing excellent print quality up to 40x 60 from 35mm cheers, caveman
Re: Lens Mount Progress
Good. Now I'll send you a free screwmount Zenit camera, but you have to use that one only for the rest of your life. No other gear allowed. frank theriault wrote: Mind you, after the Revolution, we'll all have professional digital bodies, with full backwards and forwards and up and down compatibility with every lens ever made. Just you wait... vbg ciao, comrade frank
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On June 17, 2003 08:07 pm, Caveman wrote: Good. Now I'll send you a free screwmount Zenit camera, but you have to use that one only for the rest of your life. No other gear allowed. Any chance of making it a Flexaret? Nick
Re: What a joy!
Lasse, could you share the picture with us? I'm very fond of musicians photography. Andre --
Re: Testing, testing
Same thing's been happening to me for the last couple of days, Lasse. You're not alone... cheers, frank Lasse Karlsson wrote: Sent a message an hour and a half that hasn't shown up at my place. Now just testing. Lasse -- What a senseless waste of human life -The Customer in Monty Python's Cheese Shop sketch
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guys, if you decide to go ahead, pls, don't forget to let me know when the stuff is up for sale. i might be able to help you with a buck or two vbg best, mishka From: Cameron Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Lens Mount Progress Maybe we could have a joint Ebay auction, with all of the disaffected Pentaxians abandoning their gear enmass. Maybe that would send a message to those boneheads to do something quickly for a change.
Re: OT: Jazz Club (was Re: VERY OT - the Eagles-was:unsubscribe
Are you mocking me, Bob? -frank Bob Walkden wrote: you'd probably enjoy Noakes Singleton and the Retrievers. I've been a-snappin' and a-tappin' to their 7th album, the turquoise one, 'Dig it. Live at The Garden', featuring Shep Collier doing some very fine percussion work on the B-flat tortoise shells. Only sold 14 copies, but very, very influential on the early Southern Bavarian jazz/Kylie crossover scene. And that should tell you everything you need to know. Mmmm. Niiice. Bob 'Caca del Toro' Walkden -- What a senseless waste of human life -The Customer in Monty Python's Cheese Shop sketch
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And we'll all drive Ladas. -frank Caveman wrote: Good. Now I'll send you a free screwmount Zenit camera, but you have to use that one only for the rest of your life. No other gear allowed. -- What a senseless waste of human life -The Customer in Monty Python's Cheese Shop sketch
Re: What a joy!
From: Andre Langevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lasse, could you share the picture with us? I'm very fond of musicians photography. Andre Thanks for asking Andre. I'd love to upload some of my music shots. (I do rock, folk, latin, even classical if I get a chance), however I simply haven't built my own site yet. As for the picture I mentioned, maybe I should wait until tomorrow after I've got some sleep. Late at night it happens that I get carried away by craving hormones that tend to influence my judgement visavi pictures of women... Furthermore I may still want to work some more, and in detail on it. However if you stick around, or maybe if I'd send you sme shots in private when I have the time, I'd be happy to show them to you. Any particular kind of music that interests you more than others? Lasse
What a joy!
Hi guys, Just want to send a message and share a moment of pure joy with you. I'm in the middle, or rather the end of a rather hectic work writing and delivering photos for a Programme paper for an upcoming jazz festival in The Aland Islands. I know jazz (I used to be a jazz (rock, latin) musician), I am a trained journalist/reporter, and jazz music has been one of my main photo genres, why the festival wisely thought I'd be the perfect editor for the festival paper. Apart from introducing the artists and bands, gathering information etc. I also get the opportunity to publish a lot of my photos. (By the way, the festival will also be running my exhibition Face of jazz that I put up last winter at another local jazz festival.) Anyway, I have also had to pick out photos of musicians, where the original shots really weren't that good from various points of view. However some Photoshop work, cropping, applying color corrections (boy do I love that curves tool!) etc has produced a lot of at least fairly good shots that you'd think weren't there from the beginning. (Let's just hope that they will turn out okay in the finished print). Late for the first deadline, but still not altogether too late, I am right now in the process of tying up the bag, so to speak, and start delivering the files to the printing house. There is still a handful of pictures I have to find/pick out though and make good versions of for printing. This work has meant that I sometimes have checked my picture archives quite few years back. What pleasure there is in scanning some of your long forgotten, crappily printed shots and see them show up in beautiful appearance on your screen. Now, what specifically caused me to send you this message was this shot of this young lady singer, who more or less became my (mostly live performing) model for many years. It's not perfectly exposed, she appears in a shoulder shot, dressed in black against a black background, the flash is directly towards her face. But what a beautiful pose! Turning slightly to her left, just listening to the band, the microphone in her hand, her hair tied up which makes her facial features come to the fore, her eyes and her mouth and her beautiful upright neck - it's a classic of something I will yet have to find a name for. I was just going to do a quick touch at this shot, but it started growing on me and I found myself doing all kind of variations of it, including BW:s. It's like a song - if it's a good one, you find it will lend itself to many different variations/styles and still preserve it's quality. This lady happens also to be a dear friend or aquaintance to me, but whom I haven't seen for some time. She will appear at the festival though and I'm going to ask her if I can do a separate shoot with her, if her time will allow it. It's such a great picture, and it's all mine (do be do be dooo...)! Well, isn't it fun to hear about such photographic joy. Lasse
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Thanks for sharing, Lasse! That was a breath of fresh air. Creating images you want to cherish is the best part of photography. Pat White
Re: Lens Mount Progress
Bruce Rubenstein wrote: Canon or Nikon name brand on your camera.priceless. price-less (pries'lis) adj. [...] 2. delightfully amusing or absurd cheers, caveman
Cave prediction
In two years this list will change its name into PRML. cheers, caveman
Re: OT: Jazz Club
Bob 'Caca del Toro' Walkden wrote: you'd probably enjoy Noakes Singleton and the Retrievers. I've been a-snappin' and a-tappin' to their 7th album, the turquoise one, 'Dig it. Live at The Garden', featuring Shep Collier doing some very fine percussion work on the B-flat tortoise shells. Sounds like Bob's of the same Blue Peter generation as I am (Get DOWN Shep!) groovy. Wendy Beard, Ottawa, Canada http://www.beard-redfern.com
Re: Exhibit finally up
Congratulations! ===8==Original message text=== MR Well, after a full week of printing, mounting, matting and framing I MR succeeded in getting everything ready. This morning/afternoon I went MR down to the East End Food Co-op and Vegetarian Cafe and hung the whole MR lot on the walls! ;-) I'm pretty pleased with how it all looks. However MR this exhibit works out, it will have been great preparation for the Arts MR on the River Festival where I'm showing prints next month. MR Side note: Just as I was packing up my stuff to leave I was approached MR by the publisher of a regional (western Pennsylvania) magazine about MR using one of my photos - cover shot, no less. No financial terms MR discussed yet. I am now experienced enough to be suspicious! (On the MR other hand, I just received a check from Adirondack Sports Fitness MR magazine for the shots they used a couple of weeks ago.) We'll see... MR Still, if that's an indication of how well the stuff is received it's a MR good start. ===8===End of original message text===
Re: 6x7 extension tubes 90 leaf
I don't see any reason for not being able to use the 90 LS with tubes, though not with the leaf shutter actuated. William Robb
Re: OT: Jazz Club (was Re: VERY OT - the Eagles-was:unsubscribe
very influential on the early Southern Bavarian jazz/Kylie crossover scene Sharply defined humour, Mr W. Kind regards Peter -- CAMERA DIRECT 8 DORSET STREET BRIGHTON EAST SUSSEX BN2 1WA UK TEL 44 1273 681129 FAX 44 1273 681135 http://www.camera-direct.com
Re: FA77 observation...
I read the thread on fast forward and deleted it afterwards. Now I'm asking myself, and youselves: is it OK to use an external hood with this lens (I find the internal one too small)? Or... do I have to mind about finding a light one (plactic)? I wish I know the long term effect of using the metal 100mm hood. But the bad news is, there is no 49mm thread 85-100mm plastic hood from Pentax. The only one is a clip-on which doesn't fit the FA77. You can use the Pentax 50mm plastic hood but it is not that deep. My opinion is, when shooting without filter, the built-in hood is ok since the lens itself is quite flare resistance. With filter, it's entirely your choice. regards, Alan Chan _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
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What shall I do? Big sale and abandon Pentax? Buy Nikon? Don't be so foolish, buy Canon. Agree. regards, Alan Chan _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
