Re: After K2: Super A/Program or...

2003-09-01 Thread Alan Chan
Super A/Program is both noisy  has greater vibration than most Pentax 135 
bodies. Another con is the dim and coarse screen. Those are the only 
complaint I have.

Alan Chan
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Meaning the Super A/Program is loud? I have a K2 and was just considering
getting a Super A/Program. But there have been so many models after the K2
(which I still deeply love) that I've completely lost my way among them
trying to determine which one would be the one for me. My K2 has served me
now for 25 years on end without any fault whatsoever. Didn't shoot that 
much
in all those years, maybe some 400 films, but it's a difficult count. So 
far
the K2 has never disappointed me, so why change? Unless you know better...
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Re: Viewfinder magnification 0.8x vs. 0.7x, why ?

2003-09-01 Thread Alan Chan
This is curious, as I have been unable to manual-focus any 28, 24,
or 20mm lens manually at long-to-infinity range, and that's using
older cameras (KX, MX, SuperProgram.  I just stop down and use
hyperfocus at an estimated distance.  Anyone else have this problem?
A magnifier can greatly solve this problem. However, I would not assume all 
cameras must focus at infinity just like the lenses shown. What I have found 
is that many used Pentax cameras focus past infinity because of the 
missing washers between the front cast and the main body (typical Pentax 
manual focus camera design). This is due to inexperience repair job. So, for 
instance, with a 24mm lens, the actual film plane might hit infinity when 
the lens shows 3m (because the film plane to lens distance is shorter than 
the specification). And what's even more susprising is that my 3+ years old 
Z-1p which was purchased brand new and has never been serviced, also suffers 
from this problem. So I cannot rely on the focus scale alone for hyperfocal, 
I must focus first. However, the focus screen  AF were calibrated according 
to the actual film plane focus so there is no AF or MF error. Perhaps you 
guys could try to use your widest lens and see if they focus past infinity 
(ther reason I suggest widest lenses because they are more likely to show 
the error).

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Re: OT: Two enlargers and lenses-comments requested

2003-09-01 Thread Brendan
I like Omegas, decent lens to but the best reason is
there are tons of parts and accessories for them on
ebay and most decent photostores have stuff for them
to.

 --- Lon Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I'm a
ColorNeg/Scanner/Photoshop kind of guy, but
 my wife likes to enlarge BW in the bathroom.
 
 Her first enlarger was a Bogen 22A Special condenser
 with a metal Voss 50mm f3.5-16 lens with 5 aperature
 blades made in Japan.
 
 Her brother just gave her an Omega C-700 condenser
 with a (graphite?) Rodenstock El-Omegar 50mm
 f3.5-16 leens with 6 blades, made in Germany.
 
 Any comments on which enlarger/lens she should
 keep?  She's not done a side-by-side comparison.
 Our son gets the system leftover from this.
 
 Appreciate ANH input.
 
 -Lon
  

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Re: FA 28-90/3.5-5.6 - Any Good?

2003-09-01 Thread Joseph Tainter
Be guided by its price, compared to (for example) the very good FA 24-90.

Joe



Re: Comparison of BW film

2003-09-01 Thread Martin Mielke
I bought some rolls of Tri-X 400 recently, and noticed vendor told me that
the emulsion has just been changed. For what its worth, the box the film
comes in looks different than it did just a couple of months ago. I feel
kind of wary about this. I liked the grain of Tri-X compared to films such
as TMax.

Martin

- Original Message -
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: Comparison of BW film



 - Original Message -
 From: Gianfranco Irlanda
 Subject: Re: Comparison of BW film


  Hi Bill,
 
  You are right, as always!
  I wasn't aware about the Ilford films, but I forgot that Kodak
  changed the BW line recently (I had to face a strange way to
  identify the new films vs. the old ones...). Do you know what
  kind of changes have been made to the emulsions? What about the
  Ilford traditional films (HP5 and FP4)?

 I fear I am woefully ignorant of the actual changes. I bought a piss pot
 pile of the old stuff while I still could get it, and haven't had to buy
 much new yet. I think FP4+ has gotten a bit contrastier, and the flesh
tone
 isn't as nice as it used to be, so I expect the red sensitivity also has
 changed somewhat.

 William Robb




Re: Comparison of BW film

2003-09-01 Thread Maris V. Lidaka Sr.
I don't use BW film, but FWIW there is an article by Kai Yamada in the
August/September issue of Camera Arts where he reports he uses Tri-X Pro
and learned of the change in emulsion.  He reports that whatever tweaking
they have done to the film, it hasn't affected the look of the prints . . .

Maris

Martin Mielke wrote:
 I bought some rolls of Tri-X 400 recently, and noticed vendor told me
 that the emulsion has just been changed. For what its worth, the box
 the film comes in looks different than it did just a couple of months
 ago. I feel kind of wary about this. I liked the grain of Tri-X
 compared to films such as TMax.




Re: September PUG favorites

2003-09-01 Thread Albano Garcia
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Albano Garcia - Manuel
Moody. Powerful. Vaguely disturbing. I don't have any
desire to get to 
know 
Manuel. In fact, in real life I'd probably go out of
my way to avoid 
him.


Thanks for your comment. Manuel is a great, cool guy,
a great friend. The photo makes him look weird.
Regards

Albano





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FS: status update on Pentax35mm and 645 gear for sale

2003-09-01 Thread Stan Halpin
See http://home.earthlink.net/~smh645/forSaleLists.pdf for an updated list
of what I have for sale.

At this point I still have most of the 645 gear (2 bodies, 35mm, 45mm, 75mm,
120mm, and 200mm lenses, misc other items) and some of the Pentax K and M
lenses for 35mm K-mount camera. Several lenses, the macro gear, flashes, and
the LX and most associated LX gear has gone (except for two finder screens).

Given various work and personal commitments, these items will be available
only until 12 September. After that point I will stash the remainder away,
bring it out for eBay in late October or early November.

Stan



Re: Disadvantages of 6X7

2003-09-01 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Alan Chan 
Subject: Re: Disadvantages of 6X7


 Like the Super A/Program...

I think the Super Program vibrates more than the 6x7..

William Robb



Re: PUG: September open - suggestions for themes (next year)

2003-09-01 Thread Dr E D F Williams
Agree!

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- Original Message - 
From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 12:04 AM
Subject: Re: PUG: September open - suggestions for themes (next year)



 Personally I think there are already far too many themed galleries.

 I wasn't a great fan of the 'Synchronicity' concept when it was first
 introduced, and by now it's an idea that is more than a little overworked.

 As can be seen by the way that many of the entrants play fast-and-loose
 with the themes anyway, it's not a particularly serious restriction. So
 why bother with it?

 I can see a few special-concept galleries during the year (maybe 3 or 4),
 with perhaps more (or less) stringent rules on what is done post-exposure.
 And the occasional concept them _does_ often force you to think outside
 your normal photographic habits. But we've already lost 50% of the year
 to themed galleries - that's more than enough.

 And while I'm sounding off:  I'm strongly opposed to Digital as a theme.
 I can capture exposures with film, or with a CCD sensor.  I can manipulate
 the image on my computer, or I can perform all sorts of tricks with cross-
 processing, dodging, burning, and multiple exposures in the darkroom. The
 end result should be what is judged, not the means used to get there.  Not
 to mention the fact that having a specific Digital gallery rather sends
 the message that digital images are less welcome in other months.





Re: Disadvantages of 6X7 part 2

2003-09-01 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Juan Diaz
Subject: Disadvantages of 6X7 part 2


 I have found this rather informative artikel in the meantime.
 Take a look at what he has to say about shutter-induced
 vibrations.

 http://luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/pentax67ii.shtml

 He's pretty much saying the same thing I guess.

What he is saying is that you can't put a big heavy camera onto a wimpy
tripod. OTOH, the longest lens I have done extensive shooting with on the
6x7 is 135mm, and I tend to use shorter focal lengths with it.
The camera is easier to hand hold than most people would think, and one is
better off to hand hold it than put it on a lightweight tripod with any
focal length of lens.
The only time I have had a vibration spoiled exposure was off a Manfrotto
055 tripod, which in my books is pretty lightweight.
I believe that was shutter induced as well, since the blurring was sideways.

William Robb



Re: PUG: September open - suggestions for themes (next year)

2003-09-01 Thread Dr E D F Williams
Agree.

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- Original Message - 
From: Lon Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 11:27 PM
Subject: Re: PUG: September open - suggestions for themes (next year)


 I vote for No Themes.
 Every gallery open.
 That means I can submit to any gallery
 without having to run out and waste a roll
 just for the Pug.  I waste enough rolls as it
 is.
 
 My 2 cents.   -Lon
 
 



Re: How's the 80-320?

2003-09-01 Thread John Francis
 
  As long-time readers of this list will know, I've taken *my*
  favourite lens out to the Safari Park, too.
 
  See  http://www.panix.com/~johnf/gallery/sdwap.html
 
 They're nice pictures, especially the gorilla looking right at the
 camera.

Thanks.  That was the dominant male in the enclosure - he was beginning
to wonder whether he needed to warn me off.  Eye contact (or lens contact)
is threatening behaviour in gorilla-speak.  Fortunately I was far enough
away (with a 200mm, I believe) that he decided I wasn't in competition.
 
 Is San Diego Safari Park part of San Diego Zoo? If so, next time you
 go could you get some photos of the Bonobos, please?

I don't think the Bonobos were prominent when I visited.  The Wild Animal
Park is associated with the Zoo, but it's not co-located with it.  Not
that you'd want to try and do them both in the same day; each warrants
at least a whole day, especially if you spring for the photo safari.

San Diego isn't exactly local - it's around 500 miles from here.  I do
get down to Southern California once or twice a year (for the Long Beach
race, and sometimes for the Fontana event), and I've been thinking that
it's about time I took a little extra time and went back to San Diego,
especially as I'm always loaded up with long lenses when I'm down there.
But it looks as though I won't be getting to Fontana this year - I'll
probably be on a business trip to Singapore.  Such a hardship.  Maybe
I'll persuade my wife to take the trip to Long Beach again next year,
although she's thinking about the Surfer's Paradise race (Australia).



Re: PUG: September open - suggestions for themes (next year)

2003-09-01 Thread Cotty
Marnie's words not mine:

Wet
Big (Huge)
Pair or Pairs
Curved
What is it? (Mystery Shot)

Sounds good to me!

;-)


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Re: OT: Survival Kit

2003-09-01 Thread Cotty
A friend went fishing in the tall reeds on vacation.
The boat rental firm had an elaborate safety/survival scheme.
Boat owner:  If the motor won't start, raise this flag on a mast and we'll 
find you.
My friend:  Don't worry, I'll just call you.

Regards,  Bob S.

This reminds me of a cautionary tale that some will find useful. Probably
not many people on the list go on the water very much. Some, like sailors
and fishers will already take precautions.

If you do go on the water, even if it's a small pleasure boat or a bit of
rafting or whatever, carry in your kit a small plastic sealable container
- made for the purpose and available from most watersports stores - large
enough to take your car keys. Even if you're not photographing from the
water, use it for your keys.

You're nodding now and saying hmmm yes, that's pretty smart. There's a
couple of reasons. Firstly, modern car keys that include a remote locking
device will usually fail if they get wet. Secondly, the larger the
container, the better they are at floating...

I sailed a Laser for a couple of years, and I used to wrap my car keys in
2 plastic bags and stuff the bundle in the small mesh pocket of the
flotation vest. One dunking proved fatal for the remote device and on
returning to the car later, I could not disengage the vehicle
immobilisation system. The RAC (similar to AAA in the states) rescued me
and I needed a new remote unit (used car with only one remote - always
have a second unit - d'uh).

After that I bought an inexpensive sealable plastic container - a rigid
one. I thought about the heavy-duty plastic sealable bags but I didn't
trust it not to get ripped or holed somehow. The container I have is only
big enough for a bunch of keys. It has a cord attached that I then used
to put around the mast of the sailboat. Worked great. However, I never
sailed with the cell phone. This has made me think about it again and
I'll pick up one big enough for keys and phone soon.

The container is in the car and when I film or photograph from the water,
the car keys go in it, always.




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Pentax lens on Canon body?

2003-09-01 Thread Cotty
Okay all you gear heads out there, here's a challenge. How can I mount a
Pentax lens onto a Canon D60? Did I once read about an EF to screwthread
adapter? Is there an EF to K mount adapter?

I need to submit to the PUG again.

Of course, I could just go and buy a roll of that funny old stuff, now
what was it called again? You know, that ancient system for recording an
image onto a chemically-coated flexible plasticand use it in my MX.

That would be too easy.




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Re: PUG: September open - suggestions for themes (next year)

2003-09-01 Thread Cotty
And while I'm sounding off:  I'm strongly opposed to Digital as a theme.
I can capture exposures with film, or with a CCD sensor.  I can manipulate
the image on my computer, or I can perform all sorts of tricks with cross-
processing, dodging, burning, and multiple exposures in the darkroom. The
end result should be what is judged, not the means used to get there.  Not
to mention the fact that having a specific Digital gallery rather sends
the message that digital images are less welcome in other months.

No worries John, in a couple of years there will be the occasional 'film'
gallery


:-




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Re: OT: Survival Kit

2003-09-01 Thread Alin Flaider
Bob Walkden wrote:

BW Here's what I take:
...
BW coil of rope

   :o)
   Actually the coil of 40 meters of 8mm rope and a carabineer always
   sit at the bottom of may rucksack even if no climbing is in the
   collimator. Quite a few benefited from it over the years...

BW torch

   May I suggest the Petzl Tikka variety? It's extremely small,
   led-based and lasts forever.
   
   Servus, Alin



Re: How's the 80-320?

2003-09-01 Thread Alin Flaider
John wrote:

JF but I seem to recall that the 80-320 was well received when it was
JF first released, so I'm thinking of trying one with the *ist-D

   John, considering the 60 lpmm requirement of the *ist d sensor,
   the 80-320 will behave remarkably well between 80 and 135, still
   well at 200 mm, but I'm afraid it'll fail miserably towards 300 mm.
   Yet I'm under the impression it's performance at 300 improves
   sensibly at close focus.
 
   Servus,  Alin



Re: Pentax lens on Canon body?

2003-09-01 Thread Alan Chan
You can try glue-gun. You know, the one that sets instantly.

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Okay all you gear heads out there, here's a challenge. How can I mount a
Pentax lens onto a Canon D60? Did I once read about an EF to screwthread
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Re: Viewfinder magnification 0.8x vs. 0.7x, why ?

2003-09-01 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
You're looking for a single figue of merit to quantify ability to MF 
lense on a AF body, and magnification isn't it, because there isn't one. 
 There were differences in the quality of viewfinders with MF cameras 
and there are with AF cameras. Like many other things, the best 
correlation between a number and the quality of the viewfinder is the 
cost of the camera. The highend AF cameras have much better viewfinders.

BR


Bruce, I am aware of the differences between eyepoint, magnification and 
coverage. I was specifically asking about modern AF camera that boasts 
magnification higher than 0.8.

You see, what I, personally and humbly, want is an AF camera that allows 
for reasonable ability to do MF without having to rely on AF confimation 
light or sound. I think that it would be necessary to have at least 0.8 
magnification for that. I think that 0.85 or even 0.9 would be ever better.



Re: PUG: September open - suggestions for themes (next year)

2003-09-01 Thread ernreed2
John said:
 And while I'm sounding off:  I'm strongly opposed to Digital as a theme.
 I can capture exposures with film, or with a CCD sensor.  I can manipulate
 the image on my computer, or I can perform all sorts of tricks with cross-
 processing, dodging, burning, and multiple exposures in the darkroom. The
 end result should be what is judged, not the means used to get there.  Not
 to mention the fact that having a specific Digital gallery rather sends
 the message that digital images are less welcome in other months.

I think it was real fun to have that theme once and see what people did with 
it, but I don't think it should be done again (for the reasons John outlined).

I like the idea of more Open months but it is fun to see what we all do with a 
theme now and then, so count me among those who suggested perhaps 3-4 themed 
months each year. I liked Marnie's suggestions, especially the Mystery
one.



Re: PUG: September open - suggestions for themes (next year)

2003-09-01 Thread Pentxuser
A workable compromise might be to have a challenge theme for every PUG but 
also have an area in every PUG submission that is open. The PUG page would show 
the theme category in the first half and the open in the bottom. That way if 
you did not get around to shooting the theme you can submit in the open 
category. Everyone is happy. 
Vic 



Re: PUG: September open - suggestions for themes (next year)

2003-09-01 Thread Dan Matyola
great idea!

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

A workable compromise might be to have a challenge theme for every PUG but 
also have an area in every PUG submission that is open. The PUG page would show 
the theme category in the first half and the open in the bottom. That way if 
you did not get around to shooting the theme you can submit in the open 
category. Everyone is happy. 
Vic 



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Re: OT: Survival Kit

2003-09-01 Thread T Rittenhouse
Interesting story, Cotty. I have often wished I had a remote for my vehicle.
Now, I am rethinking that because when I go off into the woods, water,
whatever, I usually stash the keys in the vehicle and just carry the door
key on a cord around my neck. That way I always figured that if I lost
everything else (as I once almost did on a solo canoe trip) I would still be
able to get into the car.

Ciao,
Graywolf
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- Original Message -
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 4:22 AM
Subject: Re: OT: Survival Kit


 A friend went fishing in the tall reeds on vacation.
 The boat rental firm had an elaborate safety/survival scheme.
 Boat owner:  If the motor won't start, raise this flag on a mast and
we'll
 find you.
 My friend:  Don't worry, I'll just call you.
 
 Regards,  Bob S.

 This reminds me of a cautionary tale that some will find useful. Probably
 not many people on the list go on the water very much. Some, like sailors
 and fishers will already take precautions.

 If you do go on the water, even if it's a small pleasure boat or a bit of
 rafting or whatever, carry in your kit a small plastic sealable container
 - made for the purpose and available from most watersports stores - large
 enough to take your car keys. Even if you're not photographing from the
 water, use it for your keys.

 You're nodding now and saying hmmm yes, that's pretty smart. There's a
 couple of reasons. Firstly, modern car keys that include a remote locking
 device will usually fail if they get wet. Secondly, the larger the
 container, the better they are at floating...

 I sailed a Laser for a couple of years, and I used to wrap my car keys in
 2 plastic bags and stuff the bundle in the small mesh pocket of the
 flotation vest. One dunking proved fatal for the remote device and on
 returning to the car later, I could not disengage the vehicle
 immobilisation system. The RAC (similar to AAA in the states) rescued me
 and I needed a new remote unit (used car with only one remote - always
 have a second unit - d'uh).

 After that I bought an inexpensive sealable plastic container - a rigid
 one. I thought about the heavy-duty plastic sealable bags but I didn't
 trust it not to get ripped or holed somehow. The container I have is only
 big enough for a bunch of keys. It has a cord attached that I then used
 to put around the mast of the sailboat. Worked great. However, I never
 sailed with the cell phone. This has made me think about it again and
 I'll pick up one big enough for keys and phone soon.

 The container is in the car and when I film or photograph from the water,
 the car keys go in it, always.




 Cheers,
   Cotty


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Re: OT: Survival Kit

2003-09-01 Thread T Rittenhouse
A lot of places I've parked, I would have had to walk home. For some reason
people trust those magnetic key boxes, car thieves love them too.

As an aside I once met a guy who just left his keys in the ignition of his
convertible even when he parked it top down. I thought he was crazy, but
then if you can afford a new Cadillac Convertible every year you probably
consider the price pocket change.

Ciao,
Graywolf
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- Original Message -
From: Dr E D F Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 6:15 AM
Subject: Re: OT: Survival Kit


 All wrong! You don't take your car keys with you when you - climb rock,
 hike, sail, dive, swim, fly-fish, fish-fish, glide, bird-watch,
girl-watch,
 walk on the beach, lie on the beach, make sand castles, walk about with a
 camera, walk about without a camera, walk about with two or more cameras,
 parachute jump, bungee jump, ice-fish, hunt big game, climb trees, collect
 butterflies and the rest. You hide them carefully somewhere near the car
 making - sure no one sees you do this. I often put them under one of the
 wheels, covering them with grass and dirt or whatever. Under a rock is
good.
 A small zip-lock bag is a good idea when doing this. I would never take my
 keys onto the water. Also ... if you have a key attached to the underside
of
 the car with one of those magnetic gadgets, take it off and put it inside.

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 - Original Message -
 From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 11:22 AM
 Subject: Re: OT: Survival Kit


  A friend went fishing in the tall reeds on vacation.
  The boat rental firm had an elaborate safety/survival scheme.
  Boat owner:  If the motor won't start, raise this flag on a mast and
 we'll
  find you.
  My friend:  Don't worry, I'll just call you.
  
  Regards,  Bob S.
 
  This reminds me of a cautionary tale that some will find useful.
Probably
  not many people on the list go on the water very much. Some, like
sailors
  and fishers will already take precautions.
 
  If you do go on the water, even if it's a small pleasure boat or a bit
of
  rafting or whatever, carry in your kit a small plastic sealable
container
  - made for the purpose and available from most watersports stores -
large
  enough to take your car keys. Even if you're not photographing from the
  water, use it for your keys.
 
  You're nodding now and saying hmmm yes, that's pretty smart. There's a
  couple of reasons. Firstly, modern car keys that include a remote
locking
  device will usually fail if they get wet. Secondly, the larger the
  container, the better they are at floating...
 
  I sailed a Laser for a couple of years, and I used to wrap my car keys
in
  2 plastic bags and stuff the bundle in the small mesh pocket of the
  flotation vest. One dunking proved fatal for the remote device and on
  returning to the car later, I could not disengage the vehicle
  immobilisation system. The RAC (similar to AAA in the states) rescued me
  and I needed a new remote unit (used car with only one remote - always
  have a second unit - d'uh).
 
  After that I bought an inexpensive sealable plastic container - a rigid
  one. I thought about the heavy-duty plastic sealable bags but I didn't
  trust it not to get ripped or holed somehow. The container I have is
only
  big enough for a bunch of keys. It has a cord attached that I then used
  to put around the mast of the sailboat. Worked great. However, I never
  sailed with the cell phone. This has made me think about it again and
  I'll pick up one big enough for keys and phone soon.
 
  The container is in the car and when I film or photograph from the
water,
  the car keys go in it, always.
 
 
 
 
  Cheers,
Cotty
 
 
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Not quite OT: Kodak colour IR film Zenitar lens

2003-09-01 Thread mike wilson
Hi,

I have some Kodak Colour IR film and a Zenitar lens.  Does anyone know
if the yellow filter supplied with the lens is similar to the
recommended Wratten 12 (yellow) filter?  Or is there a Cokin type
equivalent, for my other lenses?

Any possibilities of invisible flash type photography with this film,
as is possible with the HIR BW?

TIA,

mike



What's the best Pentax 50mm?

2003-09-01 Thread Cotty
K-mounters have a seat. I need the screwheads on this one.

What in your opinion is the best screwmount 50mm (or thereabouts) *with* SMC ?

Is the 55mm f/2 SMC Takumar worth a look?

Any and all answers gratefully received.




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Re: PUG: September open - suggestions for themes (next year)

2003-09-01 Thread Cotty
I, for one, (and I'm not being particularly passionate) like the alternating
theme/no theme months.  That way the we need structure and the opposing we
need more freedom camps are both appeased. 

Well I'm not going to stand for that!




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Re: After K2: Super A/Program or...

2003-09-01 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Lon Williamson
Subject: Re: After K2: Super A/Program or...



 There are a lot of SPs out there.  Pick one up some time and see
 how well you like it.  My SPs are not much louder than my KXs, but
 at least one person here (William Robb) has convinced himself that
 the SP has more mirror/shutter vibration than many other bodies.

I don't know about compared to a lot of other bodies, but it does have
significant shutter/mirror bounce.

William Robb



Re: Not quite OT: Kodak colour IR film Zenitar lens

2003-09-01 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: mike wilson
Subject: Not quite OT: Kodak colour IR film  Zenitar lens


 Hi,

 I have some Kodak Colour IR film and a Zenitar lens.  Does anyone know
 if the yellow filter supplied with the lens is similar to the
 recommended Wratten 12 (yellow) filter?  Or is there a Cokin type
 equivalent, for my other lenses?

The Zenitar yellow filter should be close enough to a Wratten #12 for it to
not matter.


 Any possibilities of invisible flash type photography with this film,
 as is possible with the HIR BW?

Hard to say. It is actually an extended red film, and doesn't have a heck of
a lot of IR speed. Really wonky curves actually. If you are going to try, I
would recommend getting an 850nm cut filter for the flash, as that is where
the cyan layer sensitivity falls into the sewer.

William Robb



Re: After K2: Super A/Program or...

2003-09-01 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée
Lon Williamson a écrit:
My guess is that you would only see 3 real advantages to the SP.
Shutter is 15 to 1/2000, it has TTL flash capabilities, and
it can accept a winder or drive.
(It also has shutter priority and a program mode - both of which
I regard as not much different from aperature priority).
I don't think the SP's finder is as nice as any in the K-series,
but it does offer more eye relief.
There are a lot of SPs out there.  Pick one up some time and see
how well you like it.  My SPs are not much louder than my KXs, but
at least one person here (William Robb) has convinced himself that
the SP has more mirror/shutter vibration than many other bodies.
The Super Programm (SuperA in Europe) is only a improved version of the 
ME/MEsuper, just more electronic and a faster shutter.
These shutters more recent than the K2 and present less vibrations and 
noise.

Michel




Re: Not quite OT: Kodak colour IR film Zenitar lens

2003-09-01 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: William Robb
Subject: Re: Not quite OT: Kodak colour IR film  Zenitar lens



 Hard to say. It is actually an extended red film, and doesn't have a heck
of
 a lot of IR speed. Really wonky curves actually. If you are going to try,
I
 would recommend getting an 850nm cut filter for the flash, as that is
where
 the cyan layer sensitivity falls into the sewer.


Yikes!!! I should actually read this tripe before sending it off..
Make that a 700nm cut to take advantage of what little IR speed the stuff
has.

William Robb



Re: After K2: Super A/Program or...

2003-09-01 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Michel Carrère-Gée
Subject: Re: After K2: Super A/Program or...



 The Super Programm (SuperA in Europe) is only a improved version of the
 ME/MEsuper, just more electronic and a faster shutter.
 These shutters more recent than the K2 and present less vibrations and
 noise.

Are you sure?
The K2 was still a horizontal shutter. Vertical shutters tend to be more
vibration prone.
The ME shutter seems quite smooth.

William Robb



Re: Disadvantages of 6X7

2003-09-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yes, all but the earliest Pentax 6x7s have mirror lockup. Of course the 
shutter mechanism is fairly hefty as well and can cause vibration at 
speeds around 1/30 and 1/60, particularly when shooting on a somewhat 
flimsy tripod. However, I've never experienced a vibration problem. I 
use a big tripod and push down firmly on the camera when shooting at 
those speeds. Handheld at 1/250 or 1/125, the camera is perfect. I've 
even had success handholding at 1/60 and 1/30.
Paul

On Sunday, August 31, 2003, at 10:38 AM, Juan Diaz wrote:

As I read Danny Gonzales articles about the medium format cameras at 
his site,
I find it worring that under the description of disadvantages of the 
6x7
format he says: Mirror slap becomes a real problem as compared to 
most 66/645's
As I understood the 67II should also have a mechanism that holds the 
mirror up if
you want it to. So where's the big problem anyhow?

Juan Diaz

http://medfmt.8k.com/mf/go1.html#pentax67




New member

2003-09-01 Thread Hans Beumer
Hello everybody,
just a little introduction of a new member.
I' ve been reading this list (at
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/) since a few months
now, and since I'm a Pentax fan, I finally decided to join the list
(especially since I've been building up an MX-set latelly)
I've learned a lot since I started to read your mail.
My name is Hans Beumer, and I'm from Holland. Shooting an MZ-5 since 5 years
now (before that, a Ricoh KR10 super), and, with much pleasure, an MX since
may this year.

Greetings,
Hans Beumer.

mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Pentax lens on Canon body?

2003-09-01 Thread Jim Apilado
Cotty,
I bought an adapter for my EOS-RT (a pellicle mirror body) that will allow
me to use my SMC Takumar lenses on it.  It's been awhile but I think I got
it from Adorama in NYC.  Don't know about a K to EF.

Jim A.

 From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:36:14 +0100
 To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Pentax lens on Canon body?
 Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 04:36:35 -0400
 
 Okay all you gear heads out there, here's a challenge. How can I mount a
 Pentax lens onto a Canon D60? Did I once read about an EF to screwthread
 adapter? Is there an EF to K mount adapter?
 
 I need to submit to the PUG again.
 
 Of course, I could just go and buy a roll of that funny old stuff, now
 what was it called again? You know, that ancient system for recording an
 image onto a chemically-coated flexible plasticand use it in my MX.
 
 That would be too easy.
 
 
 
 
 Cheers,
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Re: What's the best Pentax 50mm?

2003-09-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
The 50/1.4 Super Multi Coated Takumar is probably the best of the 
screwmounts and one of the all-time best Pentax lenses.
Paul
On Monday, September 1, 2003, at 11:40 AM, Cotty wrote:

K-mounters have a seat. I need the screwheads on this one.

What in your opinion is the best screwmount 50mm (or thereabouts) 
*with* SMC ?

Is the 55mm f/2 SMC Takumar worth a look?

Any and all answers gratefully received.



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Re: What's the best Pentax 50mm?

2003-09-01 Thread Peter Alling
The 55 f/2 us virtually identical to the 55 f/1.8 both optically and 
mechanically, the only
difference being a ring introduced to keep the Max aperture to 2.0.  It may 
be available for
less money and it's a bit more of a rarity from what I can gather if you're 
into that sort of thing.
I personally like the SMC-T 50 1.4 more but then I'm still shooting film 
and that may make a difference.  I think the center sharpness of the 55 may 
be a bit better when stopped down to f/8.0 or so.

At 04:40 PM 9/1/03 +0100, you wrote:
K-mounters have a seat. I need the screwheads on this one.

What in your opinion is the best screwmount 50mm (or thereabouts) *with* SMC ?

Is the 55mm f/2 SMC Takumar worth a look?

Any and all answers gratefully received.



Cheers,
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Re: After K2: Super A/Program or...

2003-09-01 Thread John Francis
 
 The Super Programm (SuperA in Europe) is only a improved version of the 
 ME/MEsuper, just more electronic and a faster shutter.

Not really.  The Super Program also offers shutter priority (and full
program) modes, when used with the A lenses.  That's a little more
than just more electronics.

I don't think the shutter is any faster than that of the ME Super, either;
aren't they both the same (Seiko?) 1/2000 vertical-run metal blade unit?




Re: OT: Survival Kit

2003-09-01 Thread John Francis
 
 Firstly, modern car keys that include a remote locking
 device will usually fail if they get wet.

No - they are normally sealed well enough to prevent that.
Just as well, too - the first week we had our new car my keys
ended up going through the washing machine.

So what's the technology in those, anyway?  What's the power source?
Will the key eventually stop working (except as a purely mechanical key)?



Re: How's the 80-320?

2003-09-01 Thread John Francis
 
 John wrote:
 
 JF but I seem to recall that the 80-320 was well received when it was
 JF first released, so I'm thinking of trying one with the *ist-D
 
John, considering the 60 lpmm requirement of the *ist d sensor,
the 80-320 will behave remarkably well between 80 and 135, still
well at 200 mm, but I'm afraid it'll fail miserably towards 300 mm.
Yet I'm under the impression it's performance at 300 improves
sensibly at close focus.
  
Servus,  Alin


Thanks - I think I've decided to get one as a 'walking around' lens
when I don't want the weight of the 80-200.

I suspect that hand-induced camera shake will be more of a problem
at longer focal lengths than the optical performance of the lens.
And let's face it - it's performance above 200mm, while not stellar,
is better than anything my 80-200 manages at that range :-)



Re: After K2: Super A/Program or...

2003-09-01 Thread Anders Hultman
John Francis:

I don't think the shutter is any faster than that of the ME Super, either;
aren't they both the same (Seiko?) 1/2000 vertical-run metal blade unit?
I have two ME:s and one SuperA and they all have 1/1000 as their fastest
shutter speed.
anders
-
http://anders.hultman.nu/


Re: New member

2003-09-01 Thread Steve Larson
Welcome aboard Hans!
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California


- Original Message - 
From: Hans Beumer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 9:56 AM
Subject: New member


 Hello everybody,
 just a little introduction of a new member.
 I' ve been reading this list (at
 http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/) since a few months
 now, and since I'm a Pentax fan, I finally decided to join the list
 (especially since I've been building up an MX-set latelly)
 I've learned a lot since I started to read your mail.
 My name is Hans Beumer, and I'm from Holland. Shooting an MZ-5 since 5
years
 now (before that, a Ricoh KR10 super), and, with much pleasure, an MX
since
 may this year.

 Greetings,
 Hans Beumer.

 mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]





Re: What's the best Pentax 50mm?

2003-09-01 Thread Steve Larson
Hey Cotty,
  I agree with Paul, the early 50/1.4. It`ll say on it Super-Multi-Coated.
I say early because the early one was all metal, the later one had a
rubber focusing grip. They are VERY sharp at 1.4. It is also better
than the 50/2 at f1.4 ;)
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California


- Original Message - 
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 8:40 AM
Subject: What's the best Pentax 50mm?


 K-mounters have a seat. I need the screwheads on this one.

 What in your opinion is the best screwmount 50mm (or thereabouts) *with*
SMC ?

 Is the 55mm f/2 SMC Takumar worth a look?

 Any and all answers gratefully received.




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Re: After K2: Super A/Program or...

2003-09-01 Thread Matt Bevers
On Monday, September 1, 2003, at 01:58  PM, Anders Hultman wrote:

I have two ME:s and one SuperA and they all have 1/1000 as their 
fastest
shutter speed.

...but my ME Super goes to 1/2000.  As for the Super Program, I should 
be able to tell you later this week ;-)

Some may remember my flash questions from some time ago, I decided on 
the SP/AF280t combo.  I've got the SP on the way, but I keep missing 
out on the flash - I'm either too slow to email when someone sells one 
here or too fast to bid on ebay and I get sniped in the last 10 sec.  
Maybe someday...

-matt



Re: A Contest-was: I went shopping for a *ist D today.

2003-09-01 Thread Steve Desjardins
I don't know what to say.  This is so unexpected.  I'd like to thank the
Academy . . .

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/01/03 08:44AM 
YES!!

You, Steve, win the prize for thinking of the prize to give to the
winner
of the contest..

Unfortunately, your prize is simply the satisfaction of a job well
done,
and knowing that you are the envy of your peers.

Well done.  I envy you.  g

cheers,
frank

Steve Desjardins wrote:

 A can of tuna (the brand is obvious). ;-)

--
Jazz is about capturing the moment
-Herbie Hancock




RE: New member

2003-09-01 Thread Al Shaikh
Welcome to the club.





Re: Pentax lens on Canon body?

2003-09-01 Thread Eactivist
Did I once read about an EF to screwthread
adapter? Is there an EF to K mount adapter?

According to a Canon web page (actually made by an Internet acquaintance of 
mine from another realm) the only Pentax lenses that will work on a Canon (with 
an adapter) are screwmount. Nothing else. Anyway that's what I remember -- I 
haven't read it recently -- but here is the article.

http://photonotes.org/articles/eos-manual-lenses/

HTH, Marnie aka Doe 



Re: UK pricing for *istD!

2003-09-01 Thread whickersworld
Harold Owen wrote:

 It would appear that the Pentax *istD body only is going
to cost £1,400
 here in the UK.

 See this link:-
http://www.ephotozine.com/news/fullnews.cfm?NewsID=1327


The more it changes, the more it remains the same.

Long live Rip-Off Britain.:-(

John





Enlarger accessaries for 645

2003-09-01 Thread Steve Desjardins
Looking through the BH site, I couldn't find any reference to 645
negatives. Can use a 75 mm lens and a 6x6 negaive carrier?



Re: Disadvantages of 6X7 part 2

2003-09-01 Thread Juan Diaz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I find that most of the noise and vibration appera on the dropping of the mirror,after the
shutter has 
closed.

---
This will imply that at that moment the film has allready been exposed 
anyway?

Juan Diaz





Re: After K2: Super A/Program or...

2003-09-01 Thread John Francis
 
 John Francis:
 
 I don't think the shutter is any faster than that of the ME Super, either;
 aren't they both the same (Seiko?) 1/2000 vertical-run metal blade unit?
 
 I have two ME:s and one SuperA and they all have 1/1000 as their fastest
 shutter speed.

But I wasn't talking about the ME - I was talking about the ME Super, which
added the 1/2000 speed (and manual speed selection override).

You might want to check your SuperA again, too.  My Super Program definitely
has a 1/2000 top speed.



Re: What's the best Pentax 50mm?

2003-09-01 Thread Steve Desjardins
I have the 55 f2 on my SP500.  I regularly use the FA50 1.4 on my MZ-S,
and I really dio think the 55 is sharper.  To be honest, I've been
pleasantly surprised with the results of this lens.  If you can pick it
use cheaply, don't hesitate.


Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Didn't make the PUG but...

2003-09-01 Thread Lon Williamson
Hadda use _fast_ autofocus to snag these critters!
I like the shot, Cory.
-Lon

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Once again I didn't get off my duff to get a photo in the PUG.  I did,
however get out to the Zoo and got a few interesting shots.  It's easier to
shoot these wild beasts when they are cooped up...not unlike my kids
actually :)
Anyway, here's one I like:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1723105



Re: PUG: September open - suggestions for themes (next year)

2003-09-01 Thread Lon Williamson
Much too tame.  We need:
  X-Rated
  Assasins I have known
  Car Wreck Victims
  Cadavers
Now _thar's_ 4 months of themes that'll perk up
interest from outsiders.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I liked Marnie's suggestions, especially the Mystery
one.




Re: Enlarger accessaries for 645

2003-09-01 Thread Mark Roberts
Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Looking through the BH site, I couldn't find any reference to 645
negatives. Can use a 75 mm lens and a 6x6 negaive carrier?

What enlarger are you working with? I can't imagine not having 645
carriers and other appropriate accessories. The Saunders I bought from
Tom Van Veen has 645 carriers available (TV included one with mine). I
use an 80mm lens with it.

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: Didn't make the PUG but...

2003-09-01 Thread cbwaters
Yeah, well THESE beasts in particular weren't moving that fast ;)

Cory
- Original Message - 
From: Lon Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: Didn't make the PUG but...


 Hadda use _fast_ autofocus to snag these critters!
 I like the shot, Cory.

 -Lon

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Once again I didn't get off my duff to get a photo in the PUG.  I did,
  however get out to the Zoo and got a few interesting shots.  It's easier
to
  shoot these wild beasts when they are cooped up...not unlike my kids
  actually :)
 
  Anyway, here's one I like:
  http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1723105




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Re: What's the best Pentax 50mm?

2003-09-01 Thread frank theriault
~If~ you can pick one up cheaply?  Kripes, what are they, like $10 on eBay?

Okay, maybe a few bucks more, but they go for a song and a dance.

I have two, both of which were on Spotties that I bought.  I also have a
Super Takumar 1.4 50mm.  I think the 2.0 55mm is a bit sharper.

Although, as Steve Larson astutely points out, at f1.4, the 1.4 50mm blows
the 2.0 55mm out of the water. g  But seriously, don't overlook the 55mm,
Cotty.  It's an excellent lens, just a buttery feel, sharp as hell, and
real cheap.

cheers,
frank

Steve Desjardins wrote:

 I have the 55 f2 on my SP500.  I regularly use the FA50 1.4 on my MZ-S,
 and I really dio think the 55 is sharper.  To be honest, I've been
 pleasantly surprised with the results of this lens.  If you can pick it
 use cheaply, don't hesitate.

 Steven Desjardins
 Department of Chemistry
 Washington and Lee University
 Lexington, VA 24450
 (540) 458-8873
 FAX: (540) 458-8878
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Viewfinder magnification 0.8x vs. 0.7x, why ?

2003-09-01 Thread Rofini
 Minolta 7 - 0.8x
 Z-1p - 0.8X
 MZ-S - 0.75X
 N1 - 0.73X
 Minolta 9 - 0.73X
 EOS 1V - 0.72X
 EOS 3 - 0.72X
 EOS 7 - 0.7X
 F100 - 0.7X
 F5 - 0.7X
 
 Alan Chan

Going back a generation: 
SF1/SF1n with 0.81x
SF7/SF10 with 0.82x

Unlike Z-1p, SF1 and SF1n appear to have coated glass outer eyepieces. 

Mark Rofini




Re: New member

2003-09-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
Welcome to the list, Hans. I think you'll find that we have a lot of MX
owners here. It's a great camera and a favorite of many here, including myself.
Paul Stenquist
Hans Beumer wrote:
 
 Hello everybody,
 just a little introduction of a new member.
 I' ve been reading this list (at
 http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/) since a few months
 now, and since I'm a Pentax fan, I finally decided to join the list
 (especially since I've been building up an MX-set latelly)
 I've learned a lot since I started to read your mail.
 My name is Hans Beumer, and I'm from Holland. Shooting an MZ-5 since 5 years
 now (before that, a Ricoh KR10 super), and, with much pleasure, an MX since
 may this year.
 
 Greetings,
 Hans Beumer.
 
 mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: New member

2003-09-01 Thread Lon Williamson
Welcome aboard, Hans.
This group is (mostly) well-behaved.
Hans Beumer wrote:
Hello everybody,
just a little introduction of a new member.
I' ve been reading this list (at
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/) since a few months
now, and since I'm a Pentax fan, I finally decided to join the list
(especially since I've been building up an MX-set latelly)
I've learned a lot since I started to read your mail.
My name is Hans Beumer, and I'm from Holland. Shooting an MZ-5 since 5 years
now (before that, a Ricoh KR10 super), and, with much pleasure, an MX since
may this year.
Greetings,
Hans Beumer.
mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]






Re: After K2: Super A/Program or...

2003-09-01 Thread Lon Williamson
The SuperA/Program goes to 1/2000

Matt Bevers wrote:
On Monday, September 1, 2003, at 01:58  PM, Anders Hultman wrote:

I have two ME:s and one SuperA and they all have 1/1000 as their fastest
shutter speed.
...but my ME Super goes to 1/2000.  As for the Super Program, I should 
be able to tell you later this week ;-)

Some may remember my flash questions from some time ago, I decided on 
the SP/AF280t combo.  I've got the SP on the way, but I keep missing out 
on the flash - I'm either too slow to email when someone sells one here 
or too fast to bid on ebay and I get sniped in the last 10 sec.  Maybe 
someday...

-matt






Re: After K2: Super A/Program or...

2003-09-01 Thread Lukasz Kacperczyk
 The K2 was still a horizontal shutter. Vertical shutters tend to be more
 vibration prone.

On his site, Boz claims it has a vertical shutter.

Regards,
Lukasz

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Re: New member

2003-09-01 Thread frank theriault
Actually, Hans, don't listen to Lon.  We're not well behaved at all.  g

Like you, I own an MX, and it's a little gem.  I love mine.

Hope you contribute to the Pentax Users' Gallery:

http://pug.komkon.org/

The deadline is the 20th of the month, and next month's theme is Professional or
Pro, or something like that.  Anyway, just click on submission information to
find that out.

Welcome aboard!

cheers,
frank,
Toronto, Canada

cheers,
frank

Lon Williamson wrote:

 Welcome aboard, Hans.
 This group is (mostly) well-behaved.


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Re: After K2: Super A/Program or...

2003-09-01 Thread Arnold Stark
I can confirm that the Super A is quite a loud camera - i.e. the 
combimed sound of mirror and shutter is much louder than that of the ME 
Super, which is very well damped, and even louder than that of the K2. 
For this reason I like the ME Super better than the Super A, but the ME 
super is known for more frequently developing electronic problems. The 
ME Super as well as the Super A/Super Program feature vertical run metal 
blade shutters (just like the K2) but with 1/2000 second as the shortest 
shutter speed (as opposed to 1/1000 on the K2). The Super A/Super 
Program also features TV and program modes with A/F and FA lenses as 
well as TTL flash.

Another upgrade option for the K2 would be the K2 DMD which has the same 
great (for good lighting conditions) viewfinder, and which adds not only 
data and motor drive  options but also the following features:
- display of the aperture in the viewfinder
- a warning in the viewfinder if an exposure factor is selected
- memory lock. 
- viewfinder blind for correctly exposed self-timer operation in AV mode.

Xtra class cameras which I would also consider are the KX and the MX - 
both highly reliable fully manual mechanical bodies with full 
information viewfinders, with the MX being smaller and quieter - and the 
LX, of course, which in my opinion is the best of the non-AF Pentax 35mm 
bodies - but only if it does not have a sticky mirror (servicing of the 
LX is quite expensive but at least it is still available).

Arnold

Paul Delcour schrieb:

Meaning the Super A/Program is loud? I have a K2 and was just considering
getting a Super A/Program. But there have been so many models after the K2
(which I still deeply love) that I've completely lost my way among them
trying to determine which one would be the one for me. My K2 has served me
now for 25 years on end without any fault whatsoever. Didn't shoot that much
in all those years, maybe some 400 films, but it's a difficult count. So far
the K2 has never disappointed me, so why change? Unless you know better...
:-)

Paul Delcour

PS
anyone else from Holland?
 




Re: After K2: Super A/Program or...

2003-09-01 Thread Anders Hultman
John Francis:

 I have two ME:s and one SuperA and they all have 1/1000 as their fastest
 shutter speed.
But I wasn't talking about the ME - I was talking about the ME Super, which
added the 1/2000 speed (and manual speed selection override).
Ok. My ME:s are just plain ME:s.
No Super there.
You might want to check your SuperA again, too.  My Super Program definitely
has a 1/2000 top speed.
I checked again, and it has indeed 1/1000 as top speed.
The text on the body says ProgramA, though.
Not SuperA. Maybe that's why.
anders
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http://anders.hultman.nu/


Re: New member

2003-09-01 Thread John Francis
 
 Like you, I own an MX, and it's a little gem.  I love mine.

Many of us do.  In fact I decided, a few years ago, that I'd better
pick up another one as a spare in case my old faithful gave up. So
when I was in Sam's in LA in 2000, I looked in the 'used equipment'
case, and there was a nice black MX sitting there.  Because the meter
wasn't working, they only wanted $100 for it.  So one $75 CLA  repair
at my local camera store later, everything is working just fine.