Re: Freezing BW Film
Shel, I would strongly advocate not freezing film, but simply fridging it. I read many years ago that freezing could lead to some emulsions cracking on loading, but that may be a myth! I keep mine in the fridge, at about 5°C, and have used film up to four years old with no discernible deterioration. HTH John Coyle Praxis Data Solutions (www.epraxisdata.com) Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 3:08 PM Subject: Freezing BW Film How long can slow to 400 speed BW film be kept frozen without losing speed or fogging? Is there an ideal temperature for freezing film? shel
Re: Another digital storage device
Actually, I asked if anyone knew of one of these with a DVD-R. A DVD-ROM is not a DVD-R. Nothing imprecise about it. I can show you several hardware product descriptions that distinguish between DVD, DVD-ROM, DVD+/-R and DVD+/-RW, but which all describe different read-only devices. Just because something can read DVDs doesn't mean it can read DVD-R, so a drive is often described as being a DVD-R (unit if it can read them; it doesn't have to be a writer. Sure seems to me that there's a lack of precision there. It's rather like it was in the early days of CDs, when not all CD drives could read CD-R (or CD-RW) media.
Re: Freezing BW Film
If that was true most of my films would have cracked, not only from freezing during storage, but some of them also from use in similar temperatures. There is, however, a story of a Norwegian expedition to Antarctica where they used an LX being modified to roll the film the opposite way around the spool in the camera to avoid cracking, but the temperatures may be well below the temperature in the freezer. If the film holds freezer temperatures during use I´d be careful with winders and motor drives. DagT På 16. jan. 2004 kl. 08.20 skrev John Coyle: Shel, I would strongly advocate not freezing film, but simply fridging it. I read many years ago that freezing could lead to some emulsions cracking on loading, but that may be a myth!
Re: Freezing BW Film
Freezing will not physically harm the film if the film is properly thawed before use. John Coyle wrote: Shel, I would strongly advocate not freezing film, but simply fridging it. I read many years ago that freezing could lead to some emulsions cracking on loading, but that may be a myth! I keep mine in the fridge, at about 5°C, and have used film up to four years old with no discernible deterioration. HTH John Coyle
Re: Freezing BW Film
The film will be warmed to above freezing before use. The use of a motor or a winder would be an exception rather than a normal occurrence. I know that film can be used without cracking in freezing temperature. One of the things I really love about this list is that when a question is asked, even if there's no direct response to it, all sorts of other information and opinions are brought to light ;-)) Dag T wrote: If that was true most of my films would have cracked, not only from freezing during storage, but some of them also from use in similar temperatures. There is, however, a story of a Norwegian expedition to Antarctica where they used an LX being modified to roll the film the opposite way around the spool in the camera to avoid cracking, but the temperatures may be well below the temperature in the freezer. If the film holds freezer temperatures during use I´d be careful with winders and motor drives.
Re: Freezing BW Film
I've kept film frozen at about -20C for years and years. Some 16mm BW film was about 15 years old when I used it. The result was as good as that from new film. I still keep all my film in the freezer amongst the ice cream, fish, ham and the rest. The thermometer reads about -18C. There are some rolls of Fuji colour film 120 in there that were bought in 1989. But I have no camera for that format now. I have never had a film crack. Just make sure yours has reached ambient temperature before you load it. Don ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery See New Pages 'The Cement Company from HELL!' Updated: August 15, 2003 Oh my God! They've killed Teddy! - Original Message - From: Dag T [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 9:55 AM Subject: Re: Freezing BW Film If that was true most of my films would have cracked, not only from freezing during storage, but some of them also from use in similar temperatures. There is, however, a story of a Norwegian expedition to Antarctica where they used an LX being modified to roll the film the opposite way around the spool in the camera to avoid cracking, but the temperatures may be well below the temperature in the freezer. If the film holds freezer temperatures during use I´d be careful with winders and motor drives. DagT På 16. jan. 2004 kl. 08.20 skrev John Coyle: Shel, I would strongly advocate not freezing film, but simply fridging it. I read many years ago that freezing could lead to some emulsions cracking on loading, but that may be a myth!
Re: cheap macro
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Rebekah wrote: called. :o) Anyways, I was wondering if anyone knew of another *thing* that I could put at the end of my lens so that I could screw on a uv filter or something. There is this thing called Reverse Ring Light Holder K, which is used so as to attach a Ring Flash to a reversed K-mount lens. I have ordered one but it has not arrived yet, so I cannot be sure, but the ring attaches normally to the filter thread, so it could be that the holder is what you need. With respect to the usability of the setup, I have taken handheld pictures with the M75-150/4 reversed, holding the MZ-50 with one hand and the Cobra AF750 on the other. OK, so, it was me who took them so they cannot be that good, but one can always do better :-) HTH, Kostas
Re: Freezing BW film
Hi, DagT wrote: There is, however, a story of a Norwegian expedition to Antarctica where they used an LX being modified to roll the film the opposite way around the spool in the camera to avoid cracking, but the temperatures may be well below the temperature in the freezer. Tell me more, tell me more m
Re: cheap macro
On 15/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: A question to you guys: Ok, so my dad lent me this *thing* that allows me to screw my lens onto my camera backwards, thus enabling me to take really close up shots, kinda like the cheap version of macro. Sorry I don't what this is called. :o) It's called a reversing ring. Pretty obvious in retrospect, but then most things are ;-) Anyways, I was wondering if anyone knew of another *thing* that I could put at the end of my lens so that I could screw on a uv filter or something. You see, it would basically have to be like the mounting part of the camera on one half and a screw ring on the other half. All this is because having my lens out in the open like that gets me pretty nervous. I'm somewhat prone to breaking things. Hmm. Never thought of that but it does kind of make sense for a protective filter. I don't think any such device exists as an off-the-shelf item. You'd probably have to get something custom made. Ask Cotty if he'll do it for you! g LOL. Well, there's obviously a market for it. A very small market, it has ti be said, but a market none the less. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: cheap macro
the ones recommended are the double element types from either Nikon or Canon. i don't know if anyone else makes them that are easily obtainable. they are more expensive than ordinary single element closeup lenses. Herb... - Original Message - From: Rebekah [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 10:11 PM Subject: RE: cheap macro Actually, I talked to my dad about buying that type of lens, however, he says that they are distorted and don't focus very well. I tried one out and found that I didn't like it very much, and while reversing my lens does give me a quite limited focus range, I like it a lot. How do you find that the close up lenses work for you? Rebekah
Re: when 16-45 ?
On 15/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Isn't it a 14-45? I'm excited for it too, the 14mm on the *istD will be 21mm equiv. Very wide :) Oh, and I have the same question, when does it hit the US? The headline news in this week's AP is 'Pentax reveals digital SLE lens' and goes onto escribe the up and coming SMC Pentax-DA 16-45mm f/4 ED AL lens. According to the article it is expected 'in the spring' with no released price as of yet. Apparently the lens can be used on Pentax film- based SLRs, but will not cover the full 35mm frame (so what point there?). Interestingly, the article includes: 'Pentax has not ruled out the launch of a second digital SLR at the upcoming PMA trade show'. Could this be the possible announcement of the baby D ? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Freezing BW Film
On 16/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: How long can slow to 400 speed BW film be kept frozen without losing speed or fogging? Is there an ideal temperature for freezing film? shel Crikey, Shel, you're really getting into this digital thang boy Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
OT: Moisture muncher lenses
Hey panel.. I've very probably got a silly question here- hope the ignorance doesn't freak someone out. I bought a small iM2100 Stormcase today (much like a Pelican). Anyway, while shaping the foam inside, I came to the issue of placing the desiccant (but a few packets of Moisture Munchers). Unfortunately, I don't have too much space to play around with so can't really give it a slot of its own without being less comfortable with padding elsewhere. I was wondering if there should be any reason not to place the packet (roughly mid palm to tip of middle finger lengthwise, and 4 fingers wide) directly under a lens (as in to have the lens sitting on it in the slot). Should there be some kind of buffer between them? Regards, Ryan PS. Anyone got any interesting hardcase stories?
Re: Freezing BW Film
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Freezing BW Film How long can slow to 400 speed BW film be kept frozen without losing speed or fogging? Is there an ideal temperature for freezing film? If you are over 40, then you can keep it frozen pretty much longer than you will be around to use it. For really long term storage, you want your freezer in a basement though. William Robb
Re: Freezing BW Film
I've frozen film for the past 20 years with no problems, color slide and print films from Kodak. The pro's at the 2 day Nikon seminar said No problem, just give it 4-5 hours to reach room temperatures before you use it. I've bought 20 roll bricks at a discount or short dated film and frozen it since then. I think the only thing that deteriorates is the film base itself as it is made up of old cow bones. The comment was that Kodak was the biggest buyer of cow bones in the USA. Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If that was true most of my films would have cracked, not only from freezing during storage, but some of them also from use in similar temperatures. There is, however, a story of a Norwegian expedition to Antarctica where they used an LX being modified to roll the film the opposite way around the spool in the camera to avoid cracking, but the temperatures may be well below the temperature in the freezer. If the film holds freezer temperatures during use I´d be careful with winders and motor drives. DagT På 16. jan. 2004 kl. 08.20 skrev John Coyle: Shel, I would strongly advocate not freezing film, but simply fridging it. I read many years ago that freezing could lead to some emulsions cracking on loading, but that may be a myth!
Re: Sydney Digital Prints
On 16 Jan 2004 at 16:58, Kevin Waterson wrote: Does anyone know of a commecial body in Sydney that I can upload images on the web and have the prints mailed to my client? http://pixelperfect.com.au/ ..and they'll even mail the prints to Finland :-) Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
RE: OT:Film lives,Kodak cameras dont
Frank Penned As an aside, Dave: Did ya have fun driving home in the snow? I was cycling home in it at about 5pm. Mind you, I was going faster than the cars. Looked like the abominable snowman by the time I got to the door! Also got a photo of my bike on the front porch in the dark, covered in the 2 or 3 inches of snow that fell in the two hour span after I arrived. Should be a cool shot, if it turns out. cheers, frank Actually it was not to bad.Being out of the city i did not have to battle any major hiways.I can take back roads and farm lanesg pretty much all the way home,but it is slower than normal during snow days.Roads are more icy than anything else and when the wind blows across the open farms.look out. Still want to do a topdml up here now.LOL Looking forward to seeing the snow bike. Dave
Re: when 16-45 ?
On 16 Jan 2004 at 11:25, Cotty wrote: Could this be the possible announcement of the baby D ? Nah, Papa D Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: cheap macro
I used the Nikon Close-up lenses for quite some time. They really do give very good results. Christian - Original Message - From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 6:26 AM Subject: Re: cheap macro the ones recommended are the double element types from either Nikon or Canon. i don't know if anyone else makes them that are easily obtainable. they are more expensive than ordinary single element closeup lenses. Herb... - Original Message - From: Rebekah [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 10:11 PM Subject: RE: cheap macro Actually, I talked to my dad about buying that type of lens, however, he says that they are distorted and don't focus very well. I tried one out and found that I didn't like it very much, and while reversing my lens does give me a quite limited focus range, I like it a lot. How do you find that the close up lenses work for you? Rebekah
Re: cheap macro
Yeah, Pentax makes (made?) them too. I have one - I think it's one, maybe a couple, I don't remember the number(s) on it(them). Not a true macro though. Nice close-ups, though... -frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: cheap macro Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 19:06:05 -0800 Great suggestion ... i totally forget about such lenses. Andre Langevin wrote: I'd say the easiest macro is done by screwing a close-up lens in front of your normal lens, much preferably an achromatic close-up lens, made of two elements. Minolta makes them in 49mm size. [...] _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcommpgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Pentax *ist D question from a newbie
Hello, I'd like to say thanks to everyone for being so easy going and kind to folks who are new to this group. It is great to see such an experienced/educated set of folks treat newbies with so much kindness. It is also a wonder to see such a clean mailing list since the yahoo groups are so filled with trash nowadays! In anycase, I'm certain that I should probably have done a bit more homework before posting this note, but I'm about to burst at the seems with excitement at getting the *ist D. However, I'm doing my best at making a cautious purchase. You see I have the pentax ZX-7 which I use to mainly to: 1. Shoot pics of family and friends using a wide angle lens (I'm at the office and don't have any lens specs and none are PRO type of lens) 2. Close-ups of the garden plants/flowers with my macro lens 3. Shoot pics of Birds/Insects using my zoom lens I love to shoot pictures but simply as a hobby. I shoot tons of pics with the hope of getting at least 2 or 3 great ones from a roll (if that many) I haven't had any formal training in photography so I depend on the Automatic Settings which the camera has. In reading the article in Photographic Mag. this month, the article states that these Automatic Settings (Macro, Sports, Portrait and such) are not included as settings in the *ist D. This leads me to believe that I'll have an autofocus only and that I'll have to learn the correct settings for the different photo shoots. I don't mind having to take a course in order to better understand all the different settings, but as I said this is really just a fun hobby for me and I'm concerned to put 1700 into a hobby which I may never master as some of you obviously have. The reason I'm looking at the Pentax line is that I've already got so much invested in lenses that I'd hate to have to jump over to another brand. This would mean buying a Digital and Film SLR (for backup) and a new set of lenses. If the answer is to ditch the Pentax line, any suggestions for another set of SLRs would be great. This will give me something to start looking at while I read your other posts. Sorry for the long winded post, but I hope that some of ya'll can help. Thanks! Regards, Rod To be matter of fact about the world is to blunder into fantasy -- and dull fantasy at that, as the real world is strange and wonderful. --RAH
Re: cheap macro
- Original Message - From: Rebekah [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyways, I was wondering if anyone knew of another *thing* that I could put at the end of my lens so that I could screw on a uv filter or something. You see, it would basically have to be like the mounting part of the camera on one half and a screw ring on the other half. All this is because having my lens out in the open like that gets me pretty nervous. I'm somewhat prone to breaking things. I used a rear lens cap, cut the center out of it and epoxied a filter ring (a step-up or step-down ring would work) to it. I have no intention of using a filter, instead I attach a ring light to the reversed lens. Pentax makes a ring light adapter for reversed lenses which basically works in the same way. If you really want to get into macro photography, check out John Shaw's book Closeups in Nature He goes through multiple techniques and has great ideas. Christian
Re: cheap macro
Of course, if she had an extension tube... (think about it for a minute vbg) cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gaffer-tape the filter to the camera end of a short extension tube? :-) S _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcommpgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: Pentax *ist D question from a newbie
Comments below: Oh and Hi Rod. Hello, I'd like to say thanks to everyone for being so easy going and kind to folks who are new to this group. It is great to see such an experienced/educated set of folks treat newbies with so much kindness. It is also a wonder to see such a clean mailing list since the yahoo groups are so filled with trash nowadays! In anycase, I'm certain that I should probably have done a bit more homework before posting this note, but I'm about to burst at the seems with excitement at getting the *ist D. However, I'm doing my best at making a cautious purchase. You see I have the pentax ZX-7 which I use to mainly to: 1. Shoot pics of family and friends using a wide angle lens (I'm at the office and don't have any lens specs and none are PRO type of lens) 2. Close-ups of the garden plants/flowers with my macro lens 3. Shoot pics of Birds/Insects using my zoom lens You'll find the list has a number of macro shooters as well as many other specilties.Someone can always come up with an answer hereg I love to shoot pictures but simply as a hobby. I shoot tons of pics with the hope of getting at least 2 or 3 great ones from a roll (if that many) I haven't had any formal training in photography so I depend on the Automatic Settings which the camera has. In reading the article in Photographic Mag. this month, the article states that these Automatic Settings (Macro, Sports, Portrait and such) are not included as settings in the *ist D. This leads me to believe that I'll have an autofocus only and that I'll have to learn the correct settings for the different photo shoots. No i believe manual and auto focusing is available.At least with the starkist you can preview right a way and see if what you are doing is working. Main thing is to have fun and shoot.:-) I don't mind having to take a course in order to better understand all the different settings, but as I said this is really just a fun hobby for me and I'm concerned to put 1700 into a hobby which I may never master as some of you obviously have. The reason I'm looking at the Pentax line is that I've already got so much invested in lenses that I'd hate to have to jump over to another brand. This would mean buying a Digital and Film SLR (for backup) and a new set of lenses. Its my understanding the equivalent Nikon,the D100,has the same sensor as the starkist,so i cannot see anyadvantage to move to Nikon if you already have Pentax or equivalent glass. If the answer is to ditch the Pentax line, any suggestions for another set of SLRs would be great. This will give me something to start looking at while I read your other posts. The folks who have the camera here on the list seem pleased with it,especially now that Pentax has upgraded its firmware.They'll be piping up soon. Sorry for the long winded post, but I hope that some of ya'll can help. Thanks! Regards, Rod Dave(digital and film guy)Brooks
Pentax filters
I just put up a web page with the response curves for Pentax filters. http://www.robertstech.com/filters.htm I'll add more stuff to it later. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Freezing BW Film
Well, not xactly ... if there's a chance that some of the bw emulsions I like are gonna disappear, I want to stock up. Still have quite a bit of Agfa APX 25 in the freezer, for example. Of course, when I get completely fed up with the digicam I'm now using, I may buy a dslr, but only if it comes with a cheese grate and a fondue attachment. I think you guys put too much emphasis on lenses. Cotty wrote: Crikey, Shel, you're really getting into this digital thang boy
Re: cheap macro
frank theriault wrote: Of course, if she had an extension tube... (think about it for a minute vbg) Yep ;-) S
Re: cheap macro
Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Rebekah [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyways, I was wondering if anyone knew of another *thing* that I could put at the end of my lens so that I could screw on a uv filter or something. You see, it would basically have to be like the mounting part of the camera on one half and a screw ring on the other half. All this is because having my lens out in the open like that gets me pretty nervous. I'm somewhat prone to breaking things. I used a rear lens cap, cut the center out of it and epoxied a filter ring (a step-up or step-down ring would work) to it. Brilliant, Christian! That's the way to go for doing this on a budget! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
OT: Another Show
Well, I shouldn't say another, that does sound a bit pretentious, as I really haven't had much in the way of shows, other than a few cafes, but what the hell, a show's a show. This one's really cool, though. But first, some background. I was reading Mike Johnston's on line articles about putting together a portfolio. He also had a couple of articles in the mag he writes a column for (is it Black and White Magazine? It's British anyway). So, I decided to put one together. A got a nice display album for 8x10's, and went with the don't go for a theme, just put in your best shots idea. Mike said either approach is valid; it's up to each individual to decide. So, that's what I did. Last week, I was invited to dinner at a friend's place. I was at a party back in the fall at his house, and took a roll or two at the party. So, I thought they might enjoy the party photos, which were only on contacts. I put the contacts in the album, right at the end. Everyone liked the party contacts, but then (as I was hoping they would say g) said, Hey, can I see your other stuff? I of course, was more than happy to oblige. One of the guests knew of a cafe/restaurant that is always looking for new art, and he said he'd give them a call to see if he could hook us up. So, I went to meet with the cafe owner last night, portfolio in hand, and he liked it. Wants 12 pieces up on the wall in about two weeks. Liked one shot (my Asian Girl) http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1639375size=lg so much that he suggested that I blow it up bigger than the rest, as sort of a centre piece (the way the wall space is, that sort of thing will work). This guy already has lots of art up on his walls, but no photographs, so he seemed really interested in getting some stuff up there. Another thing he said he does, is often when he has musicians play there, he'll feature one of the artists as well, have the artist there, sort of introduce him/her to the crowd, that sort of thing. He said that a several sales have been a direct result of that sort of thing. So, I guess I have to get busy. Two weeks ain't much time, is it? cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Photoshop performance (was: Re: Used DSLR prices
On 14/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: If you have to swap to disk, then putting the Photoshop scratch space on a different physical drive takes some of the pain away. But it's far better to have enough memory in the first place, and never going to disk at all. Even the fastest disk transfer speed is still much slower than main memory speeds. Try to get more memory first; a second drive is a palliative, not a solution. As I understand the way Photoshop works, this is not correct. It is not the user that decides if Photoshop has to swap to disk, it is Photoshop. And it will readily do so depending on a number of factors including levels of history vs file size etc. I am prepared to stand corrected, but I am pretty certain that it works this way. Hard drive speed is not as important as some indicate; Photoshop craftily utilises the Scratch Disk(s) to enable optimum performance. Using a second drive is very important - selecting the startup disk as a Scratch Disk will slow performance. Fire away! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: cheap macro
- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used a rear lens cap, cut the center out of it and epoxied a filter ring (a step-up or step-down ring would work) to it. Brilliant, Christian! That's the way to go for doing this on a budget! -- Mark Roberts Just don't tell Doc Williams ;-) Christian
Re: Pentax *ist D question from a newbie
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004, lazarus wrote: In reading the article in Photographic Mag. this month, the article states that these Automatic Settings (Macro, Sports, Portrait and such) are not included as settings in the *ist D. This leads me to believe that I'll have an autofocus only and that I'll have to learn the correct settings for the different photo shoots. The automatic modes you mention (macro, portrait, etc.) only affect your exposure, not your focusing. They're a way of telling the camera what type of photo you're taking so it can set your shutter speed and aperture more effectively. Even while you're using those modes, you can still focus however you like on the MZ-7: automatically or manually. The *istD doesn't have all those specialty program modes, but it does offer a single program mode. It's still fully automatic, and it still picks both your shutter speed and aperture for you. You can still use it like a point-and-shoot if you want, although you won't have quite as much control over how your depth of field comes out as you would with different program modes. Since focusing is independent of exposure, you can focus both automatically and manually on the *istD, regardless of what exposure mode you're in. chris
Re: Another Show
Congratulations Frank. Another thing he said he does, is often when he has musicians play there, he'll feature one of the artists as well, have the artist there, sort of introduce him/her to the crowd, that sort of thing. He said that a several sales have been a direct result of that sort of thing. Does this mean free beer? :-) Bill
Re: Photoshop performance
You're absolutely correct, Cotty ... the way one uses levels can increase file size substantially, as you say the number of history levels one is using, initial file size, whether one or more files is open (it's not unusual to work with a duplicate of the file on which you're actually making corrections and adjustments, memory allocated to the operating system, whether or not other programs are open, and so on. And something else that is often overlooked: the windows paging or swap file should not be on the same disk as the scratch disk, especially if the file is set up as a dynamic file, which grows and shrinks, and moves around on the disk. That can very easily cause a conflict with the PS scratch files if the two must be on the same disk. I inadvertently had a conflict between the two, before I knew about the scratch disk really needing its own space, and believe me, it was not a pleasant event. The thing is that it may not always be possible to have enough memory with PS, so it's ALWAYS better to have a second drive for the scratch. shel 100% in agreement Cotty wrote: On 14/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: If you have to swap to disk, then putting the Photoshop scratch space on a different physical drive takes some of the pain away. But it's far better to have enough memory in the first place, and never going to disk at all. Even the fastest disk transfer speed is still much slower than main memory speeds. Try to get more memory first; a second drive is a palliative, not a solution. As I understand the way Photoshop works, this is not correct. It is not the user that decides if Photoshop has to swap to disk, it is Photoshop. And it will readily do so depending on a number of factors including levels of history vs file size etc. I am prepared to stand corrected, but I am pretty certain that it works this way. Hard drive speed is not as important as some indicate; Photoshop craftily utilises the Scratch Disk(s) to enable optimum performance. Using a second drive is very important - selecting the startup disk as a Scratch Disk will slow performance.
Re: Another Show
It might. Question is: how do I smuggle it out of the bar, across the border, and down to GFM? g -frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip Does this mean free beer? :-) Bill _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcommpgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: cheap macro
Actually, in my experience even the cheap close-up lenses work okay, IF you stop the lens down to f16 or so. -- John Coyle wrote: Rebekah, I have used close-up lenses many times, and I find that good quality ones are fine. Focussing ease is not affected, as the lens is still used, but of course your focussing range and DOf are much more limited. No doubt thare are some bottom of a bottle versions available, but those from a good lens-maker should be OK. - Original Message - From: Rebekah [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually, I talked to my dad about buying that type of lens, however, he says that they are distorted and don't focus very well. I tried one out and found that I didn't like it very much, and while reversing my lens does give me a quite limited focus range, I like it a lot. How do you find that the close up lenses work for you? Rebekah -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
Re: A bizarre ebay experience.
Complaints? Through the exterior door on the 27th floor. You have until you hit the ground to explain your problem. Once they hit the ground, most folks find their problems solved. -- Chris Brogden wrote: They don't actually provide email addresses you can use. You have to go through their stupid menu systems, read their stupid help pages, and try to find out which stupid links take you to a feedback form page and which stupid links take you to yet more stupid help pages. -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
Re: Pentax *ist D question from a newbie
Thanks folks for getting me straightened out here... My terminology is weak so I appreciate being corrected on not using the word exposure in reference to the smart modes. Also, I'm glad to see that it doesn't sound like I'll have too steep of a learning curve in dealing with the lack of Smart modes. This had me a bit concerned. A few other questions for you guys... 1. Do my remotes (wired and wireless) for my ZX-7 work with the *istD? I love the wireless remote when taking group pictures so that I can include myself! 2. Has anyone had experience with the battery grip? I have one for my ZX-7 and love it. It gives the camera a bit of extra weight which helps in keeping the camera steady along with making it bigger and easier to hold. Thanks! Rod
Re: Smart Settings on the *istD
What if the subject changes direction quickly? Will predictive AF be of any use in that situation? arnie wrote: the ist D does have predictive AF that anticipate subject movement.
Re: List Down?
Everything's fine here, only around 1 K messages to read ;-) And no - you haven't been kicked off the list, cause I wouldn't get your mail. regards, Lukasz [EMAIL PROTECTED] === www.fotopolis.pl === internetowy magazyn o fotografii
Re: Smart Settings on the *istD
i've been wondering about that myself, but haven't had a chance to try it. arnie - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 11:25 AM Subject: Re: Smart Settings on the *istD What if the subject changes direction quickly? Will predictive AF be of any use in that situation? arnie wrote: the ist D does have predictive AF that anticipate subject movement.
Re: Photoshop performance (was: Re: Used DSLR prices
Cotty wrote: As I understand the way Photoshop works, this is not correct. It is not the user that decides if Photoshop has to swap to disk, it is Photoshop. And it will readily do so depending on a number of factors including levels of history vs file size etc. I am prepared to stand corrected, but I am pretty certain that it works this way. Hard drive speed is not as important as some indicate; Photoshop craftily utilises the Scratch Disk(s) to enable optimum performance. Using a second drive is very important - selecting the startup disk as a Scratch Disk will slow performance. ah, but Cotty! just because PhotoShop for Macintosh has such elegant interface w/ the hardware is certainly no guarantee that an equally graceful operation is possible on all other computer platforms !;^DBill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
Re: Pentax *ist D question from a newbie
- Original Message - From: lazarus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 11:11 AM Subject: Re: Pentax *ist D question from a newbie Thanks folks for getting me straightened out here... My terminology is weak so I appreciate being corrected on not using the word exposure in reference to the smart modes. Also, I'm glad to see that it doesn't sound like I'll have too steep of a learning curve in dealing with the lack of Smart modes. This had me a bit concerned. A few other questions for you guys... 1. Do my remotes (wired and wireless) for my ZX-7 work with the *istD? I love the wireless remote when taking group pictures so that I can include myself! Your wireless remote will work with the *istD, the wired, I'm not sure, but I think not. 2. Has anyone had experience with the battery grip? I have one for my ZX-7 and love it. It gives the camera a bit of extra weight which helps in keeping the camera steady along with making it bigger and easier to hold. With the battery life being as long as it is, and considering the ability to use AA NiMh batteries in the camera, I've decided not to purchase the grip. On the *istD the battery grip is more of a personal preference than with the MZ/ZX cameras. For my use, the vertical release isn't worth the excess cost, whereas for others it may be Bill
Re: Smart Settings on the *istD
Shel wrote: What if the subject changes direction quickly? Will predictive AF be of any use in that situation? sounds like a job for wetware to me activate --- little grey cells !8^D Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
RE: Photoshop performance (was: Re: Used DSLR prices
Bill, There is nothing wrong with the PC interface...lets not have a PC war Version 8.0 is fine, as Cotty said, certainly 7 and 8 run ok with two disks. In version 8.0 make sure that the level of detail is set to low in the browser. You should run with 512Mb as a minimum for reasonable performance. HTH Regards, Ziggy -Original Message- From: Bill D. Casselberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 January 2004 16:56 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Photoshop performance (was: Re: Used DSLR prices Cotty wrote: As I understand the way Photoshop works, this is not correct. It is not the user that decides if Photoshop has to swap to disk, it is Photoshop. And it will readily do so depending on a number of factors including levels of history vs file size etc. I am prepared to stand corrected, but I am pretty certain that it works this way. Hard drive speed is not as important as some indicate; Photoshop craftily utilises the Scratch Disk(s) to enable optimum performance. Using a second drive is very important - selecting the startup disk as a Scratch Disk will slow performance. ah, but Cotty! just because PhotoShop for Macintosh has such elegant interface w/ the hardware is certainly no guarantee that an equally graceful operation is possible on all other computer platforms !;^DBill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
Re: Freezing BW Film
One of the things I really love about this list is that when a question is asked, even if there's no direct response to it, all sorts of other information and opinions are brought to light ;-)) Yep :) BTW, the bit of advice about using frozen (outdated) film is, after you defreeze it, use it and develop it quickly, as it might experience very accelerated aging. So it would be wise to freeze individual canisters in their plastic casing, instead of e.g. freezing the whole 30.5m rolls. I have used some outdated Sensia which I have kept frozen in a refridgerater and it kept up fine. But it was just a year or so out of date. Shel, are you thinking of stocking up on HP5+ or TX in case Ilford/Kodak stop making it? What a horrible thought! Frantisek
Re: Pentax *ist D question from a newbie
Bill Owens a écrit: - Original Message - From: lazarus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 11:11 AM Subject: Re: Pentax *ist D question from a newbie Thanks folks for getting me straightened out here... My terminology is weak so I appreciate being corrected on not using the word exposure in reference to the smart modes. Also, I'm glad to see that it doesn't sound like I'll have too steep of a learning curve in dealing with the lack of Smart modes. This had me a bit concerned. A few other questions for you guys... 1. Do my remotes (wired and wireless) for my ZX-7 work with the *istD? I love the wireless remote when taking group pictures so that I can include myself! Your wireless remote will work with the *istD, the wired, I'm not sure, but I think not. For wired remote, you must change the connector for a 2.5mm stereo jack. Michel
Re: OT ideas, Gianfranco Irlanda
Yeah, but think about the chance to send the pictures of a demonstration to somewhere safe before something goes wrong and a cop breaks your camera and all your memory cards (almost been there...) Gianfranco Yes, that would be very helpful. Been there too (almost) :-) there's a lot to the DSLRs with double CF slots - you just give him a small and empty card to crack keeping the pictures on the other g. Fra
Re: Smart Settings on the *istD
Hi, What if the subject changes direction quickly? Will predictive AF be of any use in that situation? you need Blairite AF: I don't make predictions. I never have and I never will - Tony Blair -- Cheers, Bob
Re: Freezing BW Film
I inherited a bunch of BW film from my father that had been kept in the refrigerator for years. Some had expiration dates in the late 80's. The only emulsion that had a problem was Kodak's High Speed Infared, which retained some IR capability but was really foggy. T-Max (100 400), Tri-X, and Plus-X all worked fine. I still have a few rolls of Panatomic-X and some Ilford emulsions yet to shoot. I added 10% to the developing time and rated each 1/3 stop slower than recommended just as a hedge. - MCC At 09:08 PM 1/15/2004 -0800, you wrote: How long can slow to 400 speed BW film be kept frozen without losing speed or fogging? Is there an ideal temperature for freezing film? shel - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI http://www.markcassino.com -
Re: Photoshop performance (was: Re: Used DSLR prices
zoomshot wrote: There is nothing wrong with the PC interface..lets not have a PC war not a chance - just funnin' around :^) ... still using PShop v2.5.1 sys8.1 on a 90mhz PMac 7200 w/ 128meg RAM - 72meg allocated to PShop. Of course, I have no film scanner and just scan in prints on an old 300dpi flatbed only to get pics up on the web. ... stone knives bearskins Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
Re: Photoshop performance (was: Re: Used DSLR prices
Hi, Friday, January 16, 2004, 4:55:51 PM, you wrote: ah, but Cotty! just because PhotoShop for Macintosh has such elegant interface w/ the hardware is certainly no guarantee that an equally graceful operation is possible on all other computer platforms http://www.web-options.com/nerdkrieg.tif -- Cheers, Bob
Re: when 16-45 ?
Hallo, in Germany, a lot of people allready got the 16-45 and are very pleased with the performance. regards Rüdiger -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Datum: Freitag, 16. Januar 2004 17:03 Betreff: Re: when 16-45 ? alex posted, among other things: Announcement at PMA doesn't mean that it will be for sale anytime soon. or even ever. MZ-D, anyone?
Re: when 16-45 ?
Von: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apparently the lens can be used on Pentax film- based SLRs, but will not cover the full 35mm frame (so what point there?). In Germany, it was testet on a film slr, and it can be used as a 20-45 mm Zoom. Below 20mm it has vignetting. regards Rüdiger
Re: Freezing BW Film
Frantisek Vlcek wrote: BTW, the bit of advice about using frozen (outdated) film is, after you defreeze it, use it and develop it quickly, as it might experience very accelerated aging. Why's that then? It seems odd to me. S
PUG Deadline Approaching
Folks get scanning. It's Wet outside and this month's theme Cheers Adelheid
Re: Photoshop performance (was: Re: Used DSLR prices
Same thing in WinDoze, bill ... Bill D. Casselberry wrote: Cotty wrote: As I understand the way Photoshop works, this is not correct. It is not the user that decides if Photoshop has to swap to disk, it is Photoshop. And it will readily do so depending on a number of factors including levels of history vs file size etc. I am prepared to stand corrected, but I am pretty certain that it works this way. Hard drive speed is not as important as some indicate; Photoshop craftily utilises the Scratch Disk(s) to enable optimum performance. Using a second drive is very important - selecting the startup disk as a Scratch Disk will slow performance. ah, but Cotty! just because PhotoShop for Macintosh has such elegant interface w/ the hardware is certainly no guarantee that an equally graceful operation is possible on all other computer platforms
Re: Freezing BW Film
Something like that Frantisek Vlcek wrote: Shel, are you thinking of stocking up on HP5+ or TX in case Ilford/Kodak stop making it? What a horrible thought!
Re: Pentax *ist D question from a newbie
If you like the grip on the 7, you'll like the one on the D. The latter also has a vertical shutter release, which is a button that is on top when the camera is held sideways.. Much more comfortable when shooting vertical formal. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Another Show
Great to hear this Frank. Keep us informed on dates and time.Maybe i can catch this one. So far my big claim to fame is a nice rejection letter from Hallmark.:-) Dave Well, I shouldn't say another, that does sound a bit pretentious, as I really haven't had much in the way of shows, other than a few cafes, but what the hell, a show's a show. This one's really cool, though. But first, some background. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1639375size=lg So, I guess I have to get busy. Two weeks ain't much time, is it? cheers, frank
Re: OT: Moisture muncher lenses
Hi, Ryan Lee wrote: Unfortunately, I don't have too much space to play around with so can't really give it a slot of its own without being less comfortable with padding elsewhere. I was wondering if there should be any reason not to place the packet (roughly mid palm to tip of middle finger lengthwise, and 4 fingers wide) directly under a lens (as in to have the lens sitting on it in the slot). Should there be some kind of buffer between them? Not familiar with the specific brand but these substances tend to produce dust. You might be generating a long-term problem if you are using the case for transport rather than stationary storage. mike
Re: when 16-45 ?
On 16/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: The headline news in this week's AP is 'Pentax reveals digital SLE lens' This should read: 'Pentax reveals digital SLR lens' Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Freezing BW Film
On 16/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: How long can slow to 400 speed BW film be kept frozen without losing speed or fogging? Is there an ideal temperature for freezing film? If you are over 40, then you can keep it frozen pretty much longer than you will be around to use it. Damn, that rules me out. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: OT: Another Show
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So far my big claim to fame is a nice rejection letter from Hallmark.:-) What, they didn't at least send a nice card?! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: FlashTrax - Pentax *ist D RAW
Yep. Saw that. $700 (ouch!) Or 'only' $550 for the 40GB unit. That is now on my shopping list as well, they now are doing an 80GB model. Regards, Ziggy -Original Message- From: John Francis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 January 2004 19:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FlashTrax - Pentax *ist D RAW Got this from their support people; The new version of our firmware 1.6.1 which was posted on our download site yesterday allows you to view Pentax raw images. So in short if you buy a FlashTrax you will need to download the update firmware from the site and then you can view these images. That definitely puts one of those onto the shopping list ...
Re: OT: Another Show
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So far my big claim to fame is a nice rejection letter from Hallmark.:-) What, they didn't at least send a nice card?! -- It was from Carlton.lol Dave Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: OT: Another Show
On 16/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: One of the guests knew of a cafe/restaurant that is always looking for new art, and he said he'd give them a call to see if he could hook us up. So, I went to meet with the cafe owner last night, portfolio in hand, and he liked it. Way to go Frank. That's excellent. Keep it up buddy! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Photoshop performance
On 16/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: shel 100% in agreement Hey that calls for a beef stew, don't it? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
RE: cheap macro
I used a rear lens cap, cut the center out of it and epoxied a filter ring (a step-up or step-down ring would work) to it. I have no intention of using a filter, instead I attach a ring light to the reversed lens. That's what I figured I would end up doing - only was more leaning on the side of welding it. Although, earlier, someone mentioned that there was something called a Reverse Ring Light Holder K, so I will check that out too. Kostas - please tell me where you ordered this from? Rebekah
Re: Another digital storage device
I found ithe Flash Trax i The Discount Shop for 395$ http://the-discount-shop.com/default.php?cPath=130 Jens -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 16. januar 2004 15:01 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: OT: Another Show [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So far my big claim to fame is a nice rejection letter from Hallmark.:-) What, they didn't at least send a nice card?! -- It was from Carlton.lol Dave Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Titles and captions ( was Re: OT: Another Show
On 16/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: When I look at the photo I can see that the subject is a girl and I can see that she's Asian, so the title is really not telling me anything I can't see. Some politically correct people (and I don't include myself in this instance - I'm just making an observation) might also point out that some women don't like to be described as girls. For God's sake Frank, pull yourself together man. How about Asian Babe? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Photoshop performance
On 16/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: As I understand the way Photoshop works, this is not correct. It is not the user that decides if Photoshop has to swap to disk, it is Photoshop. And it will readily do so depending on a number of factors including levels of history vs file size etc. I am prepared to stand corrected, but I am pretty certain that it works this way. Hard drive speed is not as important as some indicate; Photoshop craftily utilises the Scratch Disk(s) to enable optimum performance. Using a second drive is very important - selecting the startup disk as a Scratch Disk will slow performance. ah, but Cotty! just because PhotoShop for Macintosh has such elegant interface w/ the hardware is certainly no guarantee that an equally graceful operation is possible on all other computer platforms !;^DBill True Billy Bones but as far as I can make out it doesn't matter which platform Stop it you tart, you'll have another war on!! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: cheap macro
try this: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlistA=detailsQ=sku=203181is=REG Christian - Original Message - From: Rebekah [EMAIL PROTECTED] I used a rear lens cap, cut the center out of it and epoxied a filter ring (a step-up or step-down ring would work) to it. I have no intention of using a filter, instead I attach a ring light to the reversed lens. That's what I figured I would end up doing - only was more leaning on the side of welding it. Although, earlier, someone mentioned that there was something called a Reverse Ring Light Holder K, so I will check that out too. Kostas - please tell me where you ordered this from? Rebekah
Re: when 16-45 ?
On 16/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Apparently the lens can be used on Pentax film- based SLRs, but will not cover the full 35mm frame (so what point there?). In Germany, it was testet on a film slr, and it can be used as a 20-45 mm Zoom. Below 20mm it has vignetting. regards Rüdiger Danke! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Photoshop performance
On 16/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: just because PhotoShop for Macintosh has such elegant interface w/ the hardware is certainly no guarantee that an equally graceful operation is possible on all other computer platforms http://www.web-options.com/nerdkrieg.tif ROTFL! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
ReallyOT:Free web counters
Hi all. I touched up my new page in FP and i added a counter from the menu. Its there in code but not in real life. My next thought was to use one of those free counter sites,but you have to agree to a link. Any one use them?What is the link,just to their sites?Can you remove the counter if need be.? Dave Brooks http://www.caughtinmotion.com (there but not complete.)
Re: Photoshop performance
Stickin' to tofu these days for my protein source ... Cotty wrote: Hey that calls for a beef stew, don't it?
Re: OT: Moisture muncher lenses
Hi, if you're using the case for transport only then I can't see any need for a moistiure eater. If you're using it for storage then I suggest you think again. I had a Pelican case in which I kept my LXs and several lenses. So when I was burgled it just meant that everything was nicely packed up for the burglars, and ready to go. I still use a Pelican for transport, but I now have a safe bolted to the floor for storage. -- Cheers, Bob Friday, January 16, 2004, 6:31:41 PM, you wrote: Hi, Ryan Lee wrote: Unfortunately, I don't have too much space to play around with so can't really give it a slot of its own without being less comfortable with padding elsewhere. I was wondering if there should be any reason not to place the packet (roughly mid palm to tip of middle finger lengthwise, and 4 fingers wide) directly under a lens (as in to have the lens sitting on it in the slot). Should there be some kind of buffer between them? Not familiar with the specific brand but these substances tend to produce dust. You might be generating a long-term problem if you are using the case for transport rather than stationary storage. mike
Re: ReallyOT:Free web counters
Try this one. It's very good. There is a free one and a $12 a year version. http://www.jellycounter.com/ Counters reside on the provider's server that's why you need a link. To write the code and install a counter on your ISP server requires much work and expertise. I removed mine after it gave trouble and now use a Jelly counter. Every page on my website has a counter of it's own and none are visible -- all this for $12 per annum. Don ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery See New Pages 'The Cement Company from HELL!' Updated: August 15, 2003 Oh my God! They've killed Teddy! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 4:31 PM Subject: ReallyOT:Free web counters Hi all. I touched up my new page in FP and i added a counter from the menu. Its there in code but not in real life. My next thought was to use one of those free counter sites,but you have to agree to a link. Any one use them?What is the link,just to their sites?Can you remove the counter if need be.? Dave Brooks http://www.caughtinmotion.com (there but not complete.)
Re: Photoshop performance (was: Re: Used DSLR prices
Bob W: http://www.web-options.com/nerdkrieg.tif Oh thank you ever so much! I have long wanted to see that particluar strip. As you might know, it is featured in In The Beginning Was The Command Line, the excellent eassay on computer culture by Neal Stephenson. The essay is available in many places on the net, for example here: http://www.spack.org/index.cgi/InTheBeginningWasTheCommandLine anders - http://anders.hultman.nu/
For Sale Friday
Hello to everyone, Just hawking my wares. Trying to streamline as well as save money for lenses. The first item I have is a ZX-5n. Purchased off of a fellow list member. It's in excellent condition. No cracks, dents, dings or major scratches. There is however a slight blemish on the viewfinder but it does not affect focusing. $135 Next item is the battery grip FG for the ZX-5n. Excellent condition. $25 or both camera and battery grip for $150. Third item is an ME Super. Very good condition. No dents, dings, major scratches. Light meter works as well as the shutter in all speeds. $100. Lastly we have the ME II Winder. Very good condition. $25. $115 for both. All prices above are plus shipping and handling. Email me for photos. Thank you for your time. Ebay for these if not takers by Sunday. Francis M. Alviar __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the Signing Bonus Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus
Re: PUG Deadline Approaching
Scanning, what scanning? :-) DagT På 16. jan. 2004 kl. 19.07 skrev Adelheid v. K.: Folks get scanning. It's Wet outside and this month's theme Cheers Adelheid
Re: Titles and captions ( was Re: OT: Another Show
The original title was Chop Suey Chickie, but it was pointed out to me that some might take offence, so I toned it down a bit... vbg yours in Political Correctness, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] For God's sake Frank, pull yourself together man. How about Asian Babe? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcommpgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
RE: Titles and captions ( was Re: OT: Another Show
Yes, Well, You are correct, Bob. I didn't think much of the title either. It was really just a working title, and I stuck that title on the photo.net posting for lack of anything else to call it at the time. I'm horrendous at titling things. Were it not for the fact that I think it sounds pretentious, I'd just call my stuff Untitled #1, #2, etc.. The other problem with that, is I'd just say to myself, Hmmm, what was that Asian Girl photo, Untitled # 745, or #746? And, on the Politically Correct front, you're right. Identifying the subject by her gender or county (or continent) of family origin isn't the best way to classify her. I'll have to think of something else for that photo, and most of my others as well. As for the Pythonesque statement of the bleedin' obvious, well, sometimes in my more lucid moments, I'll title things that way with the actual intention of being ironic and humourous (the bike shot, A Dog and Her Girl on a Bike being an example of that). Sometimes it works. Other times not. g But, Asian Girl was no such attempt. Thanks for the pointers - I appreciate it. cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Titles and captions ( was Re: OT: Another Show Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:56:38 + congratulations on the show, Frank. It's well deserved. Maybe it's just me being pernickety or something, but I would change the title or caption of this particular photo. The reasons apply to most paintings, photographs etc., so please don't think I'm singling you out. When I look at the photo I can see that the subject is a girl and I can see that she's Asian, so the title is really not telling me anything I can't see. Some politically correct people (and I don't include myself in this instance - I'm just making an observation) might also point out that some women don't like to be described as girls. The gist of what I'm saying is that in my opinion a title, caption or whatever shouldn't usually be what Monty Python described as a statement of the bleedin' obvious. I must say, though, that I'm often guilty of this myself, but I do try to avoid it. Having said all that, it's a very enjoyable photograph. -- Cheers, Bob _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/viruspgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: Pentax *ist D question from a newbie
Intelligent people don't need Smart Modes. Then again, I guess they couldn't really call them Stupid Modes, could they? The Marketing Department wouldn't have liked that one bit! vbg Well, Rod, that's about all I have to say about the *ist D, or any other automatic camera for that matter. Don't own one. Never used one. I'm just not an automatic guy, I guess. Or I'm cheap. Likely the latter. But, seriously, welcome to the list. Glad you could make it. Pull up a chair and enjoy the show! cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: lazarus [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip Also, I'm glad to see that it doesn't sound like I'll have too steep of a learning curve in dealing with the lack of Smart modes. snip _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcommpgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
RE: I'M BACK!
Brendan, Where the hell are you? I have an LX now. There's no other news. Welcome back. -frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Brendan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: I'M BACK! Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 22:08:25 -0500 (EST) Yes I fell of the face of the earth again, quick question does the nomail option work? I'm over seas on dial up for a while __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/viruspgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: OT: I've become my Parents-was:PUG Deadline Approaching
Yup, the Tube Testers were in drug stores. Couldn't figure out why they'd be in drug stores, but they were. I used to love pressing that button and watching the meter go back and forth... Just don't get going on how far you walked through the snow to get to school, Shel. Next we'll here from Graywolf, and how tough ~he~ had it (up hill both ways...). vbg cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: I've become my Parents-was:PUG Deadline Approaching Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 17:05:52 -0800 Ahhh fond memories ;-)) That and having to replace the tubes by opening the back of the set, or having to call the TV repairman who might have to take the set to the shop. Of course, before calling the repairman, we'd always give the set a hard whack in a few places, which would often clear up the problem. I'll vouch for you Frank, and for all those snow storms we had to walk through to get to school. shel (whose TV viewing isn't much different these days) _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/featurespgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: cheap macro
No, mine certainly are 1 element. -frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: cheap macro Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 19:10:14 -0500 Pentax has made closeup lenses. i don't recall them being two element lenses though. _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcommpgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: GFM and a CRAPPY weekend...
Peter, Your sig reminds me of my favourite pick up line in bars: Hey, you're cute when I'm drunk. Why is it that I'm single again? vbg ciao, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] useless bunny ear trivia snipped so we can read the sig I drink to make other people interesting. -- George Jean Nathan _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/viruspgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
RE: cheap macro
So would that be gas, arc or mig welding? Well, I'm pretty sure that gas is available to me, as well as arc, however, for something as thin as the screw ring, it would probably be better to tig weld it, which is what they use to weld airplanes together since tig is best for thin type metals as it causes a minimum distortion. I really wouldn't want to mess up a screw ring trying to smash it in because I melted the mount, ya know? Rebekah
RE: cheap macro
Thanks, I'm glad that they have a professionally made one out there somewhere. :o) Rebekah -Original Message- From: Christian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 1:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: cheap macro try this: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlistA=details; Q=sku=203181is=REG Christian - Original Message - From: Rebekah [EMAIL PROTECTED] I used a rear lens cap, cut the center out of it and epoxied a filter ring (a step-up or step-down ring would work) to it. I have no intention of using a filter, instead I attach a ring light to the reversed lens. That's what I figured I would end up doing - only was more leaning on the side of welding it. Although, earlier, someone mentioned that there was something called a Reverse Ring Light Holder K, so I will check that out too. Kostas - please tell me where you ordered this from? Rebekah
RE: I'M BACK!
I'm in Trinidad right now, with the Pz-20, the MZ-3 died a *ist, non D on the way, nothing much new other than that. --- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brendan, Where the hell are you? I have an LX now. There's no other news. Welcome back. -frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Brendan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: I'M BACK! Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 22:08:25 -0500 (EST) Yes I fell of the face of the earth again, quick question does the nomail option work? I'm over seas on dial up for a while __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/viruspgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: Titles and captions ( was Re: OT: Another Show
Sounds like you're thinking of the right one, Tom. On of the titles I'd thought about a while ago was Navigating the Crowds, but Passing By is much better, shorter, more to the point, and catchier. I'd love to use it with your permission. I'll buy you a beer when you drop in to GFM, if I can use it. vbg I mean, what the hell, I've promised everyone else a beer (or tea, or whatever). cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Titles and captions ( was Re: OT: Another Show Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 21:06:03 -0500 Frank, if that is the photo I think it is (I didn't look this time), Passing By would be a great title. _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/viruspgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
FS: FA 43/1.9
Yes, I still have it. Ex. cond, with box papers all. $325 + shpg. Collin
RE: I'M BACK!
Trinidad!! You bastard! Let's see, Wednesday, high of -15C and about 6 inches of snow. Thursday morning -30C, high of -20C, today, all the way up to -15C, with high winds, wind chill of around -25C, with blowing snow. I bet you can't wait to get back, eh? cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Brendan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: I'M BACK! Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 22:42:23 -0500 (EST) I'm in Trinidad right now, with the Pz-20, the MZ-3 died a *ist, non D on the way, nothing much new other than that. _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/viruspgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
RE: cheap macro
They use TIG welding to make bike frames out of thin-walled aluminium tubes. FWIW... cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Rebekah [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: cheap macro Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 21:38:21 -0600 Well, I'm pretty sure that gas is available to me, as well as arc, however, for something as thin as the screw ring, it would probably be better to tig weld it, which is what they use to weld airplanes together since tig is best for thin type metals as it causes a minimum distortion. I really wouldn't want to mess up a screw ring trying to smash it in because I melted the mount, ya know? Rebekah _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/photospgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: I'M BACK!
frank theriault wrote: Brendan, Where the hell are you? I have an LX now. There's no other news. Yes, there is! I too have an LX m=now! BG keith whaley Welcome back. -frank
Re: GFM and a CRAPPY weekend...
Frank that is a question that will remain un-answered, (I'm in a kind mood). At 10:38 PM 1/16/04, you wrote: Peter, Your sig reminds me of my favourite pick up line in bars: Hey, you're cute when I'm drunk. Why is it that I'm single again? vbg ciao, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] useless bunny ear trivia snipped so we can read the sig I drink to make other people interesting. -- George Jean Nathan _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/viruspgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca I drink to make other people interesting. -- George Jean Nathan
Re: Slide show
Mark Cassino wrote: (snip) Anyhow - I have to say it was a lot of fun. Projected slides - even at a decent size (I projected mine to 4 feet on the long axis and sat about 8 feet away) look a lot better than scanned slides. Projecting seems to be much more forgiving than scanning, especially in regards to shadow detail, and the grain - well, there just doesn't seem to be much grain in the projected images. I also had a whole different feel for the image at the larger size, compared to viewing it on a computer screen. I enjoy reviewing my slides that way, but doing it too often, of course, is dangerous and lingering too long on one when you look at it, too, is bad (not that you are not aware of that.) When I first got into Animals Animals I had sent them a lot of stuff that I reviewed looking at them on a screen -- most of them came back I got in on the strength of my black and white prints and my eye but was told in no uncertain terms NOT to send any that I had not reviewed for sharpness and color with a 10x loupe on a light table... Boy, were they right! I love looking at stuff projected because it carries me to the spot, but I do it seldom to protect the images. (and it is a hassle to set the stuff up, too.) annsan
Re: PUG Deadline Approaching
- Original Message - From: Dag T Subject: Re: PUG Deadline Approaching Scanning, what scanning? :-) Don't need no scuzzy scanner. WW